One thing I didn’t understand is where they eikons came from. Were they originally a weapon of Ultima since he uses them in the last fight?

For a game played for its story, there are way too many never explained and later forgotten moments. It felt like too much insult to logic in quite a few places..

1st time i cried was because of FFX. Now this. I applaud the creators of FF16 after making me feel this bittersweet feeling after 20 plus years

You never did the DLCs, how comes?

I loved this game Clive is one of my fav characters in new games after I played this the last fight with ultima was so peak

I felt so bad for Benedikta, her regret for being power thirsty before losing control. Cid felt so guilty for not being able to change her and that was the first time he realized he had to give his powers to Clive. And Joshua certainly survived because Clive used the Phoenix powers to heal his chest wound. I like to think he was able to have a life with Jote, making Clive’s sacrifice even more worth.

FF16 really did just copy Xenoblade series homework huh…

Clive didn’t die. He likely wrote the book at the end, or he is the one who finished the book for Joshua. Notice the logo on the book is the same as the one they use for Cid’s Hideaway? Also, throughout the game, when Joshua is with you in the party, you can see there are times he will pull out a book and start writing in it to record his important findings of Fallen, Ultima and the world. So Joshua likely already started writing and recording the true history of the world or the events of the story as it took place.
Sidequests also hinted that Clive didn’t choose to be a warrior or knight, but rather he aspired to be an academic. The warrior life chose him, not the other way around. He had to be a knight to protect his brother Joshua, and then later as a Bearer slave he had no choice but to do as commanded. Then finally free he decided to seek revenge only to realise he is the Ifrit that “killed” Joshua. Then later he decides to pledge his sword and allegiance to Cid and his dream and vision of creating a world of equality, only to later end up taking on the name of Cid and continue the fight. Clive never wanted to fight, he simply had no choice. Hapocrates even gifted Clive his pen, so that Clive might be able to take up the pen when he decide to put down the sword.

sounds like the plot of naruto tailed beasts

Having just finished the game and making plans to play it again, there are quite a few mistakes in the video so far

Some confusion is warranted in places, but there are things that are explicitly stated in game that the narrator shouldn’t be confused about

This story started with so much potential and then just got too messy and kind of fell apart

I dont really get it. This is the most lore empty ff ive ever played. Like absolutely nothing about the fallen at all 😂

Torgal is alive ❤

This game had a high focus on how racism can effect a whole group of people and I think thats why Square Enix made the a homogeneous group to give a more focused look on how racism can destroy the world just cause of something you were born with that you can’t change… skin color and magic are one in the same in this game at least 75% of it…

so.. gurren lagann

so Jinchuriki…

This video is weird…

No one would watch this for an “explanation” unless they already finished it… yet at the same time… you spend so much time explaining the most basic concepts of dominants and eikons and etc which everyone who played it knows a majority of everything you spent so much time on.

Either this is a video for people who have never played it… or it’s a video for people who have played it. Yet you over explain everything as if everyone who played the game didn’t play the game… who are the very people who’d even watch this anyway.

No one would watch this if they didn’t play it… meaning why explain so much trivial shit as if everyone who beat the game is a dumbass?

One of if not the best ff game ever❤. Idk that I’ll ever live to see more epic boss fights in a game. I’d love to be wrong tho.

I love final fantasy so much but this game just has a terrible villain.

It is at sum point stated her head is in the box ig ur right cid didn’t do it but it’s def in there I thought cus was being petty and sent it to him as a way of making him face his consequences

Just like with FFXV, I think this game is overly hated. I don’t love it as much as the earlier FF games, but I still enjoyed the story and the characters.

This and the world of Naruto has a lot of parallels..

Love the combat, hate the story

Fell off for me after garuda, became a bunch of random jargon that just kept piling on

How it started

Political intrigue, revenge, mystery and a hinting toward some world size stakes narrative.

How it ended up

“Oh btw, 5 year time skip, there are aliens now, clive you are destiny’s child, the aliens made us and want to kill us now cause of the crystals and uhhh, underlying plot about making choices or some shit, time to fight ultima and now ultima but cooler”

Oh man, watching you dodge Ultima’s attacks towards the end of the video. It’s getting me hyped and I kinda want to play again lol. It has some of the slickest combat animations of 2023

The thing with Benedicta is that her heart always truly belonged to Cid. He was the one who saved her and gave her a sense of purpose. But when he left, something inside her broke she became hollow and desperate to fill that void. That’s what led her to serve the King of Waloed. Under his command, she was ordered to infiltrate the life of the Dominant of Titan, and because he had feelings for her, he was easy to manipulate.

What makes her story tragic but funny is that the man she loved chose his ideals over her, the man she turned to as a replacement only saw her as a tool, and the one who truly loved her who sincerely mourned her loss was the one she cared for the least.

Who else realizes that Final fantasy series is more like a Final destination series where everyone dies most of the time.

27:21 his boss’s name is “sleep near”?

Racism bad… probably (?)

Final Fantasy 16 is basically Naruto and Game of Thrones in some way what do all of you think🤔❓️

I’m pretty sure Clive wrote the book. Ultima = Final
Mythos = Fantasy

This games story was a mess tbh. And final fantasy was a fitting to title for that book because after the abysmal sales it’ll be the last main entry we ever get 😅😅😅

They turned Final Fantasy into game of thrones …. x_

I fell in love with Clive I can’t lie previously tidus was my all time favorite protagonist but I think Clive might have to have that spot cause man! I laughed I cried I got mad I got happy I had so many emotions throughout this game I’ll always hold it near and dear to my heart I loved everything about it but damn this shit felt long 😂 amazing 9/10

FF XV noctis mati, FF XVI Clive juga mati 🥲

“It aint that type of game”. At no point do you even think about Clive living or dying at the end…you NEVER feel anything for these characters so the ending is like, wtf that’s boring.

As a lefty, i really enjoy 16 and 7. Top 2 and 1 games for me respectively

Is Joshua dead or alive.

The ending made me tear up hard when Jill realize Clive’s dead.

If you talk to Vivian at the hideaway, it shows that Benedikta manipulated Hugo Kupka, and never really liked him, idk about Barnabas tho.

Game is garbage

I like the FF lore and movies, but they forgot how to make games.
The Garuda fight was very enjoyable, but everything else is just pace-breaking lazy, clutter.

I ended up abandoning the game after the fight after Benedicta lost control.

I’ll just watch this video for the story instead.

thank you for this,was interested in the story but the gameplay was gigaslop so i dropped the game

Thank you for this video. I am loving this game but am skipping the cutscenes. When I found out that the story’s cutscenes were designed similar to FF14, I knew I was going to skip them. Too many cutscenes per hour of gameplay. I wish there was a fast forward button like in FF Remake and Rebirth. lol.

this story was so poorly written. it was such a slog to get through the game

It’s her head I’m pretty sure during titans long ass boss battle he says to Clive you cut of her fucking head! If I do recall and Clive says he did it

Loved this game so much. The main reason i bought a ps5 was for this game. I need to go back and finish the dlc.

i just finished this game but was somewhat disappointed with the ending if im honest, i feel like clive didnt need to die but whatever i guess

This is just the story of xenoblade chronicles 3 with a ff filter on

I found this story insanely boring and only has solid moments whenever you reached the mother crystals, and whenever Ultima was on screen. Ultima was the best part of the game for me

The plot doesnt seem to make any sense the OP guys are enslaved and the magic generating guys are treated less than human? Why will dominants even stand for that they’d slaughter the soldiers with no magic who tell them they’re inferior.

Not talking about the current era but the past when this way of thinking started.

Blight wasnt caused by mother crystals as it was stated by Ultima It came with them into Valisthea, so we dont actually know what Blight is but what we can say is that using aether like mother crystals do, make spreading blight faster

One thing you forgot to mention is that in every FF game, there is a character called Cid. Idk why but it’s a thing. Sometimes its a playable character like in FF7 and sometimes its not, but every single FF has Cid😅

I really liked clive and much of the cast.

Idk why, but in terms of how they act, they feel the most balanced.

The balance being that between the more eastern style of character behaviour (exagurated movements/reactions) and the more western style (more realistic reactions).

I quite enjoyed it. Of course not to mention ben starrs performance as clive. Sheesh that guy went hard.

I’m fairly certain that Olivier isn’t human. When Dion kills him his body evaporates into Aether which doesn’t happen to normal people elsewhere.

Ever since being taken from her homeland as a political hostage at a young age, the Archduke of Rosaria raised Jill like a sister to Clive and Joshua, and eventually, Jill became the Rosfield brothers’ trusted confidant. At the beginning of the story, Jill is 12 years old Not much is known about Jill’s early years, but what is known is that she was born in the Northern Territories. When the Mothercrystal of the Northern Territories fell, and Blight took over, the armies of the Territories began to bear down on neighboring Rosaria. However, under the command of Archduke Elwin Rosfield, Rosaria was able to fend off the invasion. As part of the peace agreement with the Chieftain of the Northern Territories and Jill’s father, only ever known under the guise of The Silvermane, young Jill was to be given to Elwin as a ward to ensure that the Silvermane would never raise arms against them again.

It would be nice to see a sequel to this, although it could be right after the first one or many years into the future.

14:44 later on into the story Bernard or whatever the white haired dude name is that made Hugo go to mother crystal said something about benedikta head so its very likely that barnabas ordered her head to be sent to Hugo and blade cid and maybe ultima played a part in this by telling barnabas to do this

Well, he did meet a strange man called Jin Kazama

the fact this entire game was just weak court intrigue that somehow devolved into “ok, now kill god” is just to disappointing, such a waste of pretty good characters.

So many parralels with kingdom hearts…. Holy 😮

I wonder if anything thought about Joshua Rosfield could be the son of Jill and Clive. In many ways, Clive lived through his son. It is a possibility.

Im here because I couldn’t bear to slog through the rest of the game myself

IMO Harbard is the one that chopped off Benedikta’s head, under order from Barnabas and Ultima. Also, I’ve never understood why Barnabas is fighting against Bahamut at the beginning of the game when is clearly incredibly OP. It seems like he could conquer every other country.

Anyhow, my take is that each Ekion is a fragment of ultima so Joshua sealed only one of them inside but the others got released with each crystal been destroyed. It is intended in the final fight since Ultima uses each Ekion ability. I’ve found cool that Ultima does summon them without using their names but more about what they do (“Ice unyielding ecc ecc “) hinting that Ultima sees them only as a tool, whilst Clive actually calls them using their name. I thought it was quite cool as a detail

but you didnt explain anything , you just told us the same what game does lmao

Now explain how Clive narrated the ending if he was dead

If you look on Google, it says Clive survived and is badly beaten. The only thing that turned the stone was his hand

Thank you for this. I found myself bored and distracted due to the pacing. The first half of the story/game was very enthralling but they didn’t do the best job with story/plot development.

I have to love the fact that the Enterprise (CV6) is such a legendary ship, that it’s even forced it’s way into pop culture from other cultures.

This was great!

Thanks. Saved me 50 bucks. Fuk final fantasy with no turn based combat. Square enix will learn one way or the other

Interesting that Ultima calls his vessel Mythos since Ultima is latin for Final and Mythos essentially means Fantasy lol

Wow so cool

Terrible story

Thanks

This is the BEST ff game ever made until now. I love the damn game. Only the trials gave me a headache

wait Clive builds an aircraft carrier? I dont understand :/

Clive said that he decapitated benedikta before he fought hugo and cut off his hands.

How do you do it?

i love how when clive fights ultimalius with their eikons ultima yells out artistic babel ”earth unyeilding, levin untamed” while clive yells the eikons names ”titan, ramuh”
i like to think of this as clive knowing the identiy of the eikons,

Since a new DLC was dropped for this installment, will you be covering how it relates to the story? @Gingy

Amazing video! I would like to point out though that harpocretes is also not from storm, at the beginning of the game at the hideaway when you ask him about himself he tells you that he read about storm and its magic and it captivated him so he hopped on a merchants ship to journey to storm, he never explains where exactly he’s from but he does reference himself as to not being from these lands.

Joshua and Dion are the coolest part about this game tbh.

A lot of little inaccuracies. Like Clive only had the blessing of the Phoenix. He didn’t have the ikon until the end, Joshua have it to him…

you don’t need to understand the previous titles in the series but all of them save for XV, to some extent V,, and the first true 3 , are worth your time. should be noted that the series first told a Very powerful story during 6, but 4’s is … worthy of playing and sitting through the story but- It’s not a strong as it became later on.

I thought that before Clive sacrificed himself he heald Joshua which didn’t seem to work at first but the book in the end was supposed to show us that it actually worked and it was Joshua who survived

Missed and opportunity to have the timekeeper be a giant wolf with a giant sword in its mouth

This battle Style + All Previous Final Fantasies+ New Stories & Co Op = Greatness

This game and 14 have renewed my faith that Final Fantasy has a chance to be as good as it once was because 13 and 15 and 8 were just bad

Ben Starr killed it with his voicing for Clive. His scream for Joshua as his brother layed dying broke me.

My personal theory on how the story could be attributed to Joshua: Jill took Clive’s surname after he died and she was pregnant thanks to their little personal time under the moon. She had twins, named them after Clive and Joshua, and it was Joshua Rosfield Jr. who transcribed his mothers stories about the war of the Eikons as Final Fantasy.

I am to stupid to follow the story, like playing the game tho

Ah yes. Cid, dominant of rama, avatar of vishnu.

Combat sucks… I don’t think I died once. Emneys don’t knock you out of animation damage sponge it’s just attacking that’s it. Wish it was harder the enemy attacked u actually

Didn’t Clive try to heal josh before he restart the world

Wait so what about that one cutscene i saw online whre the main character gets the power of Ultima?

With the post-credit scene showing the book about the events of the game, I think it is plausible that the entire game was just that, a story in a book played out in a child’s imagination and never actually happened.

Ultima didn’t shun humanity. He believed his job was done and went to sleep until Mythos was born. But while he was asleep humanity strayed and ended up becoming advanced enough to harvest magic. They even tried to breach the crystal (which was Origin). This led to Ultima cursing the world with Dominants which were there to protect the crystals.

THE FINAL SCENE IS HUMANS NOW FIGHTING FOR NUKES

o.o It seems Clive was wrong, magic was NOT the problem. It was the human’s lack of character. So, now it is upto Narayana to educayson the humans on DHARMA. The End.

God Torgal is such a good boy

They wanted to make this game “accurate to medieval Europe”
But made majority of the characters look Asian Af lol

The diversity comment from the director is full of shit.

Still can’t think of a good reason by having an open ended finale like this, is just stupid.
So many thinks can go with one or other theory, in summary:

1. There’s a book with the history of the Eikons and only 3 characters could have write it because know the full story: Joshua, so Joshua is alive by Clive as Ultima vessel, Clive taking Joshua’s name (the only time Final and Fantasy is mentioned is by Clive ), the Undying (who have compiled all the history of humanity).

2. We don’t know how Clive get down from Origin so it’s so open this part on the beach, Clive could be exhausted only, stonification doesn’t advance in an instant so there’s a case Clive could have only his hand in stone. Or he used everything as Ultimas vessel and his body can’t handle it and go stone in a rapid fashion.

3. Torgal could not feel Clive because there’s no more magic, or because his dead. Jill see the star and think Clive is dead, but she sees the sunrise and see him coming and laugh in joy. Torgal also stops howling and looking the horizon…so open.

There’s Nothing more…and this is awful, don’t know why you would chose this much open ending.

For this to happen you invest 100 hours, and feel attached to characters, you need closure.

Im having a hard time with understanding a lot of what happens in this game. It leaves so much stuff unanswered, vague and ambiguous i hate it i wanna know what happened and i want an actual answer not just guessing or making shit up…
Here is the main stuff i absolutly need answered:

How is ultima still out there when joshua sealed him

Why is joshua hiding from clive? He has every opportunity to at least let him know hes alive

How is joshua alive after phoenix gate

Is the hooded man that appears to clive ultima? If so then why does he take on the appearance of hooded joshua?

Why does typhoon and the fire giant protect the mothercrystals. I assume they are ultima’s construct but ultima wants clive to destroy the mothercrystal so why are they trying to stop clive to do just that

Why can clive absorb powers of other eikons?

What did hugo receive in the box??

Are dion, joshua and clive dead or not??? Ffs i need to know damn it

Seriously ive searched all over online and in the ATL and i cant find answers to these its infuriating…

Every mainline FF games are independent and does not have any connection between them..

Meanwhile somewhere in rift dimension..

Gilgamesh: “I hope this portal will bring me back to my world so that i can meet and fight again with my rival, Bart.z… Oh mann.. Not again.. Always goes to another main FF world..”

Amazing.
He becomes humanities own saviour against religion.
He unites humanities power to defeat something make-believe (magic/religion) that is harmful to us and causes us to hurt ourselves. The blight shows the effect of religion. To understand it change the words magic for faith, the word blight for religion.
Odin (war) causes us the most pain, and is one of the main by-products of religion.

They address corruption in FF10
They address the effect it has on us in FF16.

Final Fantasy then becomes the bible, and science (flint producing fire) takes advances because of it and humanity is free.

ABSOLUTE GENIUS.

Man they really enjoy killing off the main character these past few games

21:33 i thought this was hugo’s hatred and jealousy of clive manifesting into him seeing benedicta and clive together

dude forgot the whole part when Clive heals Joshua’s wounds at the end, and seeing the after credits scene, showing the book written by him…probablyyyyyyy means he lived…kind of a big fail for a channel that does analysis. Give me your channel, I will make it whole.

Listen, I have this issue whee I have trouble sticking with a gmae unless someone I know in real life is also playing it or inteested in it. I need to be able to talk about the game as I play it or I stop playing. I’m literally not even through with act 1 of BG3 because the people in my dnd game stopped talking about it and the guy at work hasn’t played enough that I can talk wihtout spoiling it. But I love stories. Literally all of my interests involve stories in one form or another. So I’ve been loving your videos. I get to learn the stories of video games I’m never going to play, and add a whole bundle of stories to my mental list of them.

Here’s the story explained in 5 seconds instead of 40 minutes: The development team all took giant dumps in the middle of the office floor, then used copies of final fantasy 15 to stir it all up, and the resulting mixture was 16.

I like to believe the Joshua who wrote the book is the son of Jill and Clive

Dion is not dead! Dragoons don’t take fall damage

I’m convinced Harbard sent the head to Kupka to bait him into wanting to fight Clive/Cid and Clive unwittingly admitted to murdering Benedikta (but not sending a head) which baited Kupka even further. Ultimately though, it was Ultima all along moving chess pieces called Dominants.

13:18 pretty sure after the titan lost fight, barnabas talks about it being diktas head

This game has horrible pacing

Didn’t Hugo become titan then super titan after he took his power?

It is confirmed that it was her head and it is confirmed that it was Barnabas.

This review would’ve been perfect if you actually showed the map while explaining

Clive admitted to Hugo during their fight that it was him who sent Hugo Benediktas head

I thought Benedicta thought of Cid as a father figure because he saved her when she was a teen.

I’ve played every single final fantasy games since 14, this one unfortunately I cannot play on my pc and I don’t have a Playstation 5, if this game does come to pc I will gladly buy it

Loved the story and characters but damn, other than that, I found this game extremely boring.

It was all just a story. The whole thing was a book not real.

Still waiting to play as Cid! For the love of god release a Cid DLC now!!

great break down but for someone who played the game and played it early, you should know that you’re pronouncing Valisthea wrong.

Just so you know Gingy its pronounced Valis-Tee-Aah not Vallessia.

Great breakdown and analysis. I certainly hope there is a sequel but, I like happy endings.

I figured Jill had Clive’s baby and called it Joshua Rosfield. So it was Clive’s son who wrote the book not his brother.

Fainaru fantaji

How the hell did he not win best voice acting? Phenomenal acting start to finish. What a story, what a game. Loved it.

btw it was her head because it was brought up by barnabus.

Tbh..its a so-so ending

Just get rid if that purple sky and it would be a great game

Your analysis of the ending was way too straightforward. There was a definite possibility of Clive surviving and taking upon Joshua’s name as a write so his legacy may live on. Plus, he is the only one to have witnessed the events of the final battle and his final choice so it wouldn’t make sense for someone else to know about it. I don’t know how you managed to miss this super obvious point.

I think Benedikta truly loved Cid. She was sincerely hurt and felt betrayed when he left. Barnabas and Hugo are not Loved. She manipulates and uses them both for their position and power.

Is shiva the mother of Sephiroth? Like this is the prequel

Final Fantasy 16 was surprising easy and I hated the ending.

28:49 Clive could have easily use Phoenix or Ifrit powers to dry their clothes but he couldnt resist the quality time with Jill 😂😂😂

Clive didn’t die. He wrote the book.

The author already said that the end is ambiguos on purpose, which means that Clive could be alive or dead depending on your own interpretation. Neither its completely right until the author confirms it.
I also believe that Clive is alive merely due to narrative reasons. It doesnt make sense for Clive to “die in his own terms”; in order to complete his arc like how Cid did it. He needs to “live on his own terms” like he actually set out to do. Jill also said that Clive always comes back to her at dawn, and the way she looks at it could mean that she realizes she only lost contact with Clive because magic and dominants are gone and that maybe Clive is still alive, just partly petrified.
There were also the promises to enjoy life together after everything was said and done and what not. This story also struck me a bit like Berserk, where the characters suffer so much it just makes sense to give them a happy ending so all their hardships are given purpose (Miura said Berserk was supposed to get a happy ending).
Ultimately, its a matter of interpretation and you can choose what you want. This is what I chose regardless if its right or wrong, just like Clive would have wanted…

This is the first final Fantasy since Final Fantasy 10 that I’ve actually felt an emotional connection to the characters and have a genuine caring for the story as well. Despite the lack of turn-based strategy and companion customization, I’ve never felt more at home with a Final Fantasy. You can tell that a lot of love and detail went into the story and that means so much to me. If they remade Final Fantasy 8 with this much care for the story and control of each character with group strategy thrown in… I would be in heaven.

I just beat the guy who has the same Odin eikon and he split the seas but will come back to this video in about 1-2 days😅

What does dying even mean in this game lol

Am i the only one who finds the story too confusing😵‍💫

Unfotunately, I’m here because I’m not buying a ps5 just for final fantasy and demons souls

Only problem with this video was the unfortunate pronunciation of Valisthea, it’s not vUh-Less-Tea-Uh, it’s vAL-EH-stAY-UH. Aside from that? Great video and jam-packed w info

Hey bro!

I loved this game’s story but man I just wish for these characters to get a happy ending, it would have been beautiful to see Clive and Jill together at the end (cries in another FF15 ending)

How do these hardship-wrought characters keep up such kickass haircuts?

The plot reminded me a lot of AOT

I dont know who lives or dies at the end because theres so much left to interpretation but thats kind of poetic in a way. Clive died for your choice my friends, its your choice how the story plays out.

I think Joshua is revived from the omnipotent power Clive absorbed from Ultima. I think Clive dies from the exhaustion and taxing of his body. Too many things signal he dies to me. But i could absolutely see a world where his spirit wont accept death and he wakes up with some petrification setting in and eventually the medicine girl saved by Terence invents Soft to remedy the traces of the curse that still plague the worlds former bearers.

My guesses for DLC are two episodes:
-the first being based around Jill and her time as a slave under the iron bloods, ending with her fight against titan
-the second being an episode Cid, which will delve not only into the origins of Cid, but also Barnabas, and his upbringing/ relationship with his mother

This entire time I did not know that Elwin was Anabella’s cousin…w h a t

The game was one of my favorites had me pulled to all sorts of different emotions until kupkas death. Then we learn about mid which i think was one of the worst written engineers in final fantasy period. Not only do we do a bunch of boring fetch quests for her she even sticks to character even more and talks about how other people are doing all the work for her. I mean what kind of engineer flat out refuses to build something. Not only that but what kind of engineer forces others to engineer a way to make her stuff work? Her character didnt make sense at all. Shes the only character i couldnt stand at all.

This game will be remembered for its story and boss fights. SOLID entry in the series

Its super obvious that Jushua survived and Clives fate is left ambiguous.

Just recap the end cinematic…

1. Clive obsorbs Ultimas energy.
2. Clive runs to Joshua.
3. Clive remembers Joshua when he was with his in the last third of the game.
4. Clive remembers Joshua when he knighted him as a Shield.
5. Clive remembers when Joshua was born and being so alone, he now has somone who cares for him and whom he cares for.

6. Clive casts a spell to heal Joshua (why even bother spending so much time making this part of the cinematic)

7. Agter the spell, Clive realizes he is turning to stone and comments how even this vessel was not good enough for Ultima

8. Clive makes the ultimate sacrifice to break the cycle of magic –> blight –> desperation by removing all magic.

In the end whether Clive survided or not is left for the players to think about.

The book being written by Joshua makes sense as the Chronicler mentioned how he thought Joshua would make a good Chronicler before the last mission.

Also, Gav is like the greatest homie in the history of secondary NPCs in Final Fantasy. I cared so much about whether Gav was gonna come out OK than any other character in FF.

I just finished 16 and as a FF kid who played 1-8 on release, I think 16 might be the best FF game ever made.

It made me FEEL, like…the story is just so fucking good. I had more fun rolling around the map with Cid and Jill than I’ve had in any other game for a long time.

EDIT – I low key was fucked up after I killed Benedikta. My first playthrough was the “Benedikta banging and ice drugs” speedrun, at least from what i told my brother who also played FF games, and when I murked her – for real – and Googled “when does Benedikta come back?” only to find out….she doesn’t….I understood this game.

This game is maybe the best storytelling I’ve ever seen in a video game. Proof that a video game can tell a complex, adult-themed, and real as fuck story about the foolishness of long-term grudges and trauma.

My top 2 story in gaming

The story up to Cid’s death is good but after Cid’s death it just go downhill.

Just finished the game last night. What a journey it was…

worst ending ever!

AFAIR there’s a scene after battle where Clive uses his powers to try heal Joshua. So he may actually survived.
What surprises me tho is that civilization stalled for so much time after removal of magick.

damn i was hopping you would explain what the red light next to the moon was supposed to be. I still am confused about that and what exactly happened with joshua. In my perspective I think he might’ve been reborn given that they showed the exact same baby in his birth scene and when the other npc’s baby was born and that’s how he ended up writing the book? idk. really wanted to know what that red light was though lool

I’m surprised they didn’t include Alexander as an icon. He seems to be just added as an afterthought or not included at all anymore.

I wouldn’t say the game has nothing to do with the other FF games. Its not like the other games took place in different universes, just different times. Kinda like Legend of Zelda. But this game is a reset of the entire universe since Lighting became God and did a reset.

May I make a small correction?

Typhon, according to the lore in the thousand tomes, is one of Ultima’s many vessels, like Ultima Prime.

Idk why but aside from
Cid an gav dion was one of my fav side characters in all of ff an I’m really not sure why 😅 loved 16 tho

Rip Clive 🥲

Just wanted to throw this in here: it’s confirmed that Barnabas was the one who delivered the box to Hugo. It’s said in the cutscene following the Titan fight

I don’t think it’s ever truly explained why there’s two eikon of fire

Seeing all this discussion on ending theorys brings me back 20 years in past, when the final fantasy community was doing the same for FF VIII, ah, pure nostalgia…

For me tho, both are dead and another person wrote it, obv someone close to theme, i don’t know who, it can even be that infant in the future or it can be the work of more then one person and the decision to write that name in specific it’s the best way to honor the both of theme, the first bc it’s name is there, the second bc if he was to write it, jousha is for sure the name he would use

It’s not so hard to think that the close ones are the ones that wrote it afther all

Mmm i guess Noctis and Clive share the “sacrifice” ending

imagine naming your daughter “mid”

Small correction. Clive took Titans powers after his first fight with Hugo. This also reinforces that even tho Clive takes the abilities of eikons the original dominants can still transform

Boring

This game was lame. Lame. It was so boring by the end that I just wanted it to end. It sucked. It’s only saving grace was that it wasn’t a mess at launch. What a weak installation.

It’s never outright stated, but Barnabas ordered the desecration of Benedicta’s body and for it to be sent to Kupka. This was so he could get Hugo to attack Clive and co, giving Clive the power of Titan and inching him closer into becoming Ultima’s vessel.
Edit: Ultima fragmented his soul to create the Mother Crystals and the one Joshua absorbs is merely a part of the greater whole.

Jesus what a fucking mess. These games are so lost.

Can you cover Final Fantasy 13?

If you think about it, ff16 has a similar concept with Detroit Become Human.

The game have a few in world lores that they touch but never elaborate. Like the crystal curse on dominant that somehow only affect cid and jill and no one else. There’s also the “blessing” that was never explain. Clive can cast fire because of the Phoenix blessing, but he seem to be able to use the full Phoenix power without ever absorbing the Phoenix. If blessing is all they need to do, why don’t other dominant just bless all their army?

Well at least the game had a bit of a happier ending then FFXV in that game everyone the MC loved seemed to just die including the MC himself. Though there seemed to be at least a happy moment in the afterlife…

Confusingly, Sleipnir is the name of Odins horse but Harbard is another name for Odin.

Did you say 15 was getting updates at the end? I thought we were at 16😅

If you hsve a conversation with Josh or do a quest for/with him, he talks about writing a book. I think the book was written before the final confrontation.

probably one of the best written stories in a video game that i have ever experienced

thanks gingy as usual

I like to think that the two brothers at the very end are Clive and Joshua reincarnation of them. I mean Joshua could’ve finished writing the the story of Final Fantasy just before he died

The character development in this game was phenomenal! Loved every single little interaction between them all!!! ❤

What was Ultima’s plan again?
Another villain that sabotages his own plan by dragging in the only person who can destroy him.

Clive obviously did not die – cinematic just shows his hands turning into stone. In one of the side quest, Harpacrates gave him a quill and told him to write down the adventure after everything is over, besides, Clive is the only one who has went trhough the whole story from the begining to the end, which means only he can write down the whole thing. I think he wrote the book and leave the name of his brother to honor his memory.

Lore of Final Fantasy 16 – Story & Ending Explained momentum 100

I like to imagine the book at the end was written by Clives under Joshua’s name similar to how he took on the name of Cid

One thing about those children at the end. They’re clearly representing Clive and Joshua. People have speculated that they may be descendants of Clive and Jill. We don’t know who lived or died, and we have zero proof about the children’s lineage. But the decisions regarding the hair color are interesting. Obviously one black and one blonde, but if Jill and Clive did get frisky off screen either prior or after ultima’s defeat, where would the blonde come from? Why, the mother is blonde, of course!

The director clearly wanted us to be confused about the ending, given all the arguments back and forth. Whenever directors do this, it usually means that the ending is up to you. It’s a common trope that directors use to (1) add the illusion of depth to a plot and (2) generate media attention/audience interaction. And this leads to longer shelf life and therefore more sales. That’s not saying the director or SE corporate is only trying to make more bank. Artistic vision/integrity (i.e. writing a clear and proper ending) build the brand and might generate sales too. Just that they know this type of ending “works.”

its called VALISTHEA not Valesia……

I was suprised how good this games story was actually got me teary at the end, quite beautifully told, i just dont find the main villian compelling mainly because he looks cool but doesnt add anything to the game for me except something to kill. I actually ended up really loving cid also. I was kinda sad certain stuff just not explained like certain bosses just being one time shows with no context and missing bosses mentioned only briefly, hopefully the 2 dlcs will fix this but overall i really enjoyed this hell out of this game

The ending was the most tragic thing since ff10

Imagine the same concept if it happens between Humans and AI… If AI develops its own will… things will be interesting 🙂

Is every final fantasy disconnected to the other ones ?

Just beat it! This game is very Old Testament 🫣

Clive’s story is a memorable one. He did everything for love and protection ❤️‍🔥

The benedikta box was most likely her ashes instead of a burial

Clive cut of Benedict a head. He said so in the fight with Hugo

Bro I love ff16 dotn get me wrong but who else feels it’s just a mideval infamous second son I mean the main character is sarcastic and he can steal other peoples powers

13:40 after Hugo is killed sleipner (Barnabas’ lord commander) says that he did all this for a woman’s head

Ok I suppose. Better than most jrpgs who have yet to move beyond storytelling for kindergarteners at least

Thanks, I really liked the story, but the gameplay was just too linear and repetitive for me. So getting the full story without having to deal wir the poor gameplay is a huge timesave!

Don’t agree with the conclusion

This game felt like such a chore to complete.. I def didn’t have the same joy in my play through that I felt in past FF titles.. extremely repetitive combat with the same exact strategy for literally every single fight. Fill the stagger bar then spam special moves 😴😴 that fact that different moves look cool didn’t make it any less repetitive and the side quests dragged and were unbearably boring. ZERO replay value.

This game has more cinematic cut scene time then the entire God of War Series but the story is still convoluted AF!

I’d rather listen to this than watch any cut scenes. Wayyyyyy too many in this game. I’ve been skipping them all. I just want to play the game

I just finished 😥😥😥

Absolute masterpiece…❤️

All of the Eikons… Except for Leviathan. Seems primed for a DLC, personally.

Talking with friends about it, we noticed that there’s a lot of different story threads that could be expanded upon in DLC if they wanted.

I feel like it was mentioned somewhere about Cid’s backstory in rising up in the ranks at Waloed, his relationship with Benedikta, him raising Mid, etc.
There’s also Joshua’s story between the events of Phoenix Gate and the present day.
If they wanted to, they could do something about what happens after Clive’s death though I think that’s probably better left to the imagination.

However, the one thing that I definitely found the most intriguing would be the missing Eikon. It mentions how there are supposed to be 8 eikons, each of a different element but one of them, Leviathan of water, had been lost somehow. I think a story about what happened to it and how would make for a great addition.

Great ending, very traditional villain, a nice addition to the mythos.

Clive takes a piece of there power. Ultimately they all keep there summon powers but the connection becomes weakened and they can’t prime unless they risk losing themselves completely in a rampage

It’d be great to see the story of “Leviathan the Lost.” That’d make for some interesting DLC.

Clive’s Decision in the end could be th end of the Manga Black Clover as well.

I’m looking forward to some continued content, even from another’s perspective, cuz there’s one big piece of unresolved content. Leviathan the lost

@37:52 We literally see Clive heal Joshua in the end… We’re never shown exactly that he survives, but we do at least see his wounds be wiped away, so…

Pretty sure Harbard confirmed sending the head to Kupka on behalf of Barnabas. Also, I thought Benedikta was only with Kupka to influence him for the benefit Barnabas/Ultima but I’m not sure that’s ever explicitly confirmed.

This game’s story impressed me and the ending hit me harder than I thought. I totally understand the need for the characters to die for storytelling, but I wish Clive or Joshua would have lived.

Not gonna lie this story sounds incredibly average

One thing about Ultima is that there are multiples of him. Joshua explains at the end that each of the mothercrystals are ultima. So he only actually sealed one out of the multiple versions on Ultima.

Ff16 is already one of my favs

How do you not go into Metia at all and it’s connection to the ending?

Joshua lives, Clive seems to revive him. You notice right before his final cast he hits Joshua with the phoenix down (lol jk just the fire) but Joshua appears to have his wounds healed, but it seems like it’s up in the air. My guess is he lives and then writes the book later to make sure his brother’s story isn’t lost to time.

Bro how do you mess up saying Valisthea. It’s said out loud in game multiple times.

I cannot take these new Generation final fantasy games. . Story is pure Garbage.

Clive revived Joshua. As Jill was crying… the sun rises symbolize (Phoenix rises). Clive died and Joshua then wrote the book.. 😢😢😢

I don’t think Clive died, once I was done with the game I realized the whole game was just Clive telling the story of his book (I’m pretty sure he wrote it cuz he mentioned he loved stories and books, and used his brother’s name to honor his memory), cuz the game starts with him narrating and giving some exposition about Valisthea and the Mother Crystals and right at the end, he’s once again narrating and saying something like “and this is how our story ends”.

It is likely Clive didn’t die. The curse stopped at his hand as magic was wiped from the world. Sidequests imply Clive wanted to be a writer. It is likely he wrote the book and used Joshua’s name to keep his memory alive. Also, it is heavily implied Metia granted Jill’s wish (Clive returning with the Dawn) and Torgal holwed (sending a signal to Clive) as opposed to whimpering like when Cid died. Great video.

I finished this last night and my wife, two kids, and one of their friends were weeping at the ending. My son said “I don’t know any of these people and it’s still really sad”

Same Final Fantasy IX plot twist

On Benedicta and her feelings/relationships. I believe it’s made very clear she truly loved Cid, but when Cid left Walood that betrayal devastated her. She continues to use her sexuality for gain. She doesnt love Barnabas but is subservient to him and uses sex to prove her loyalty. She couldn’t truly care less about Hugo, but uses her sexuality to control him and essentially turn him into a pawn of Barnabas/Ultima, if she is aware of Ultimas manipulation is unclear though. She’s definitely one of my favorite villain’s ever and I wish she had more time. And her head is brought up briefly in a single line of dialog, could be a side quest, I don’t remember who or where says it but they definitely say that Ultima/Barnabas were responsibile for defiling her body and blamed Cid/Clive to pit Hugo against Clive knowing that Mythos would defeat titan, furthering Ultimas goal

I do believe Clive will survive somehow, if Gojo pulled up a J.C move out of nowhere than he can too.

10/10 Tons of dlc opportunities.

Cid , and the fall of the first 3 mother crystals. (Leviathan)

Barnabus, arriving to Ash to conquer a kingdom.

Joshua, surviving Ifrit, and learning the truth of the crystals.

The story of the ones called, the fallen.

The eikon war of the twins. (All eikons)

Special clip: Ultima and his kin, becoming the crystals of valistea.

Just wondering exactly what the significance of ifrit was ? Is it ifrit that lets Clive steal the power from other dominants? Or is that just something unique to Clive?

Fav FF so far. I really want a DLC with Jill or Joshua where we can explore the Northen territories and learn about the history with the fallen dzemekys and leviathan

WHAT’S IN THE BOX

The history section was serviceable but you left out a big detail that helps contextualize the setting. Maybe it constitutes a spoiler, but the reason why the dominants and bearers are oppressed is something I think is worth mentioning.

legit had to put the video down because of the weird way you keep mispronouncing valisthea 😭

9:03 Benedikta loved and still is in love with Cid. Her sleeping with Barnabas is the equivalent of a slave sleeping with its master. Look at their post coital scene and the dialogue specifically about Cid.

Also She’s manipulating Hugo and being manipulated by Barnabas who is ultimately being manipulated by Ultima 🤯 . In the end she dies and Barnabas (or someone working for him) beheads her and has it delivered to Hugo to enrage him.

Like Cid said… if only she would’ve listened to him…

Screw the ending…lets talk about what really matters….This game has an abundance of Big Bridges and a lack of Gilgamesh’s….that is completely unacceptable.

Plenty of room for DLC if they want. They lean into Joshua surviving by showing Clive heal him and the book author. And they only show the future several generations down the line, its very possible that the actions of Clive were not the results of the future shown and additional threats needed to be tackled afterwards in the near future. Ultima hints at the futility of Clives actions stating the world would still rot, they left themselves room to expand the story if they want. They could do whatever they want really as long as it happens sometime between the ending and the future shown in the post credits.

What is also a neat little detail and very meta of Yoshi P. and his team were the names of Mythos and Ultima. Ultima meaning final, and Mythos as fantasy.

20:04 when you say Clive is the one who actually killed her you should say actually killed Benedikta. That line could be confusing to some since you were just talking about Anabella

Cousins?!?! NAHHHH THATS CRAZYYYY

Wait wasn’t Olivier definitely a way Ultima was exerting control? His doll has glowing blue eyes and his body disintegrated… normal human bodies didn’t do so, only Akashic bodies disappeared. I could be wrong though, but he definitely seemed a puppet.

It’s just my opinion, but I think the reason why Clive couldn’t fully handle Ultima’s powers is due to not having all of the Eikons. After all, Joshua mentioned Leviathan the ‘Lost’ upon seeing the full mural. Clive never obtained Leviathan’s powers, so he couldn’t develop into the true host for Ultima’s powers.

Or……Joshua wrote the book before he died, before he took on the task of destroying Ultima.

FF16 has one of the best supporting casts in any Final Fantasy game, hands down. There’s not a single member of the Hideaway who feels poorly written or out of place. I enjoyed each and every single one of them. They did the legwork with their writing to make sure players would care deeply for these NPCs, fostering a familial connection with the Hideaway, and it makes moments like Clive, Joshua, and Dion departing for Origin hit all the harder.

The world is called Valisthea. It’s said out loud by numerous people. If you can’t get that right, why should I watch the rest?

It is implied that the head of Benedikta was sent to Hugo by Walooed, as Sleipnir states how Hugo would die “for a woman’s head”, and there is no way he would know of those details unless he was the one who sent it.

its less of a video game and more of a playable anime. the story was told through a full cinomatic experience. not what one might otherwise call cut sences.

Im kinda late (being an adult sucks) but I must say I didnt like this ending. The game was fantastic all the way until Ultima was defeated, I just do not buy Clive having to nuke himself to destroy Origin and safe the world, he could had done it another day after rethinking his approach, he also could had gave Joshua and Dion the sendoff they deserved back at the hideaway too. Ultima was already defeated and the world’s only danger was the blight which is not even a threat tbh, they can live on a blighted land just fine. To me Clive nuking himself felt forced, if the story really wanted Clive dead then why not have him die during the fight against Ultima just like Noctis died fighting Ardyn?

Clive was the one who cut Beneditkas head off. He says it in the titan fight.

Barnabas sent the head as Sleipnir says “all for the love of a woman’s head”.

Furthermore, the active time lore states that Barnabas was the one who sent Benedikta ro Hugo in order to get “him under her wing”.

This game sucks. Literally could’ve been a Netflix show lol

Joshua is alive because Clive sorta healed him before using all his powers to rid the realm of magick.

A g@y bahaumut what cringe, good thing he’s dead, why kill the main characters those who matter

Holy shit brother, respectfully you missed a lot of info lol

I like how the crystal that was taken by the Iron Kingdom seems to be the crystal related to Ifrit and the Phoenix, 2 parts of a whole representing a god like creature of creation and destruction, much like a volcano destroys and creates life from the ashes it leaves behind.

Spirits Within is still my fav FF

im lost bro

What were those things Jill did not wanna talk about?

I loved it. The ending was so strong. I’ve like Joshua since the beginning and he grew even more on home.

In fact, even if you don’t play them, i liked everyone, especially Gav, not dumb for a comic relief a bit.

The world was so interesting. I was excited when exploring Ash, like Ultima Thule in Ff14

Clive is a good character

Clive is not 100% died, there is so many hint that support clive survive. But the developer made the open ending so its up to the player to decide if clive alive or not

Okay Dion constantly fainting I believe is YoshiP easter egg, his living up to greatest dragoon strat FLOORTANKING

Japanese sure do hate god……….

Clive destroyed magic! Therefore, when he used the final spell and was washed up on the beach, only his hand/ arm was petrified. With magic being gone from the world, the curse is also gone and he wont fully turn to stone. Another point on why Clive lives.

Hope u do this to Armored Core 6 a few weeks or months after it releases

Some of the pronunciations of names make me cringe but nice video! 👍🏽❤

Kingdom hearts wheeeeennnnn

Rocking the Final Fantasy 8 vibes

Bro why all these youtube ”ending explained” never do their HW but try to make a quick video of what they think is correct? Clive didn’t die, if you did the side quests and played the game you’d know he lives on and wrote the book you see at the end.

He dies in the beach….. Leviathan the lost Eikon…..

Honestly, I told myself I was tired of super sad endings of FF games but this game forced me to change perspective. Though GREAT sacrifices were made, ultimately Cid’s & Clive’s vision came to fruition. A plethora of ppl (especially Bearers) will live much better lives. He wasn’t fighting simply to have a fairy tail ending, he fought for a purpose and succeeded. On my top ten FF protagonist list.

No offense but I think you moved way too fast in this video. Maybe try slowing down the flow of information so that we can digest it better? This is after all coming from someone who doesn’t know the story

It was explicitly stated that Barnabas had Bendikta’s head sent to Hugo to get him to clash with Clive. Presumably to feed Titan to Ifrit.

Good video, but they say Valisthea many many times in both the game and interviews leading up to launch so how do so many content creators keep pronouncing things so weird?

Weren’t the Undying chronicling Joshua’s actions? I remember Joshua telling Clive that. They probably wrote the book and it just morphed into a fairytale with time.

This has to be in the top 3 best games ever made. Everything fits so perfectly down to the smallest detail, the theme, the story, the gameplay, the epicness of every fight, the characters, the characters’ development, the dialogues, *the* *music* , *the* *voice* *acting* . Everything.
It’s one of the most mature games I’ve ever played in my 30 years of gaming. By the end I was expecting (wishing) the typical explanation of every little detail that was presented during the game, like, who are the Fallen, why/how exactly did they go extinct in the war against the gods, what happened at the crater of Dzemekys, why was Clive chosen as the Vessel of Ultima, how/why were specific people chosen as Dominant, why did some people become Bearers and others didn’t… but you get just what you need and nothing more. Like in real life, you don’t get all the answers when you reach the end of your path, and you have to choose how to live your life without knowing if the path you are taking is the right one.
I’m not even too interested in knowing if Clive survived or not, it would be heartbreaking if he didn’t, but that’s not relevant to the story, nor to his development. He went from being an innocent, brave, talented kid, to a tormented anti-hero who killed his brother, to a hero struggling with his demons, to an all out wise Man who can lead others to freedom at his own expense.
This game is an absolute masterpiece.

this will be very very easy and better to follow if you show map
when ever you name a city or kingdom to show which is where (kingdom,city, fight and …..)

It’s best to think of Ultima like Jenova. A hivemind…parasite even. That’s why there are many but there is really only 1.

I’m still alive and unfortunately, my brother….didn’t live to see it…

This game is special for sure. The bonds created though the story really made the ending hit hard. Haven’t cried at a game since rdr2 and this one earned it for sure.

Can I just say that they were ambiguous about the ending we don’t know if Clive is alive or dead?

The story is very mediocre. It’s like they tried to overcompensate for the combat system with the most tropey predictable story imaginable so as to not alienate turn based fans.

It is hinted that Barnebes is the one who sent benedikta’s head to hugo. After the Titan Boss fight, Barnebes is looking on and remarks how Hugo is easy to manipulate.

So why is it that Clive is a second aikon of fire?
Also why does ultima look like Ifrit?

After finishing the game myself and coming here, I have to say that the story is way better when it’s explained, than when it’s being played through… The pacing of this game is absolutely terrible, there’s a lot of interesing details that can get burried in either repetitive activities as main quest or generally pretty uninteresting sections between the bigger events, entire story is being told through cutscenes making gameplay sections a means to get from one cutscenes to the other (it’s even more visible when playing through NG+ and skipping all the side contrnt). And the further it goes, the more of a cheesy and cringe anime it turns into, which is obviously a matter of preference but for me it was kinda ridiculous to see mature content at one time and that ridiculius anime screaming especially towards the end. I also didn’t like the bad guy… I prefer when bad guys are focused on more personal goals with, let’s say, destroying a world or creating a new world being an effect of collateral damage, rather than their main goal, because stopping such person turned Clive into a pretty generic world saviour…

Came because it’s a new final fantasy game,stayed for torgal

*We are not the same*

Is Clive are truly dead? On the beach we see his hand is affected by curse of crystals but he destoyed them so curse can go any further. I’ll always hope that Clive is alive and happy with Jill, and he is the one who wrote the book.

People need to stop taking these things at face value, the whole “I saw this vague thing, so it must strongly imply” thing is tiresome. Joshua was indeed dead, Clive just used his powers to fix his body which may have been either a desperate attempt to revive him or to just clean his body of the wounds inflicted by Ultima. As for Clive, altho we saw him get the curse only on one hand doesn’t imply that he survived, for long anyway, because It is repeatedly explained throughout the game that once you get the curse, you are a ticking time bomb, it slowly corrodes and eats away at you (literally like cancer) and you only have a little time left to live. Clive most likely wrote the book under Joshuas name, to honor him, with the little time he had left with the selfsame quill that Harpocratese gifted him, then centuries passed and the story was so unbelievable that it became a famous novel.

I know it’s open ended, but I think Joshua lived to write the book because Clive used his own life essence to save him at the end. Because of that Clive sadly died via the curse, but Tomes likely told Joshua when he got back to tell the tales of Final Fantasy with the unique quill he gave Clive. And in the end, Clive’s dreams were realized because we see that humans saved the earth many generations into the future. Bittersweet ending to be sure, but man was it incredible. It’ll stay with me forever! 👏

The story genuinely leaves things open to the players interpretation at the end. Clive is quite the protagonist and for me one of the greatest written heroes in recent memory. Of course that is just my opinion but it has been a long time since a game or story has truly got me thinking. I think about my kids and being there shields. There so much too it and i hope that many people enjoy this game.

I want to see LEVIATHAN THE LOST!!!! lol

Just hate Clive died on that beach alone

I think Clive and Joshua lived. I think a subtle hint at this may be the kids at the end having matching hair styles to each. One blonde, one black

excellent video

But Ultima had everything to do with Joshua “dying” in the beginning of the game. There are quite a few points in this breakdown that aren’t accurate or perhaps misunderstood.

I didn’t like how weak shiva was presented in the game. Besides the opening, she just never really does much or have much impact besides going on a losing streak.

Shouldnt that med girl and dion lover died too once ultima wipe the city out? But they weren’t consider dead.

Cid and Barnabas came from Ash…

I think phoenix gate and Reverie tower in Ash were actually structures built by the ultima collective, not the fallen. All the fallen airships were inspired by these structures but never quite measuring up to the same quality. I believe all the obelisks and Ariete stones were also made by ultima

This is more of story and ending summarized rather than explained … there’s way more details that can be explained on just the ending itself

I believe Barbabus was responsible for Benadicta’s “violation” because of what Habard mentioned after Hugo’s demise

At the end wasn’t it found out by loresman Harpocrates that the guy in the hood Clive was seeing was Ultima? And was at phoenix gate to awaken Clive at the worst time knowing hed haven’t any control his first time iirc. I swear I seen this somewhere?

Really feels like another story in Ivalice. Especially with the Ultima connection.

I dont think Mid is “Mid”

I thought Ultima forced Dion to attack his people, just like how Ultima forced Clive to in the beginning?

Clive takes Hugo’s power immediately after removing his hands, not after defeating Mega-Titan, and can still Prime after this event.

“Dion is actually dead this time”
I’m sad but also, lol

It is possible Joshua lived, as Clive did use the power of the phoenix and Ultima to attempt to revive him, we see his healed body, but no actual confirmation of his life other than as the author of the book.

It’s possible that Clive could have lived, as he only passes out at the end on the beach, his body only showing the start of petrification, only his hand was petrified. The Star Metia fading, was an omen, but not necessarily proof of his death and may only been proof of Magic and Origin being destroyed.

Clive did not have all of the Eikons. Leviathan the Lost is mentioned as the last Eikon by Joshua when he sees the full mural in Ash. No real explanation is noted about Leviathan. Though interestingly, Ultima doesn’t make any mention or hint to Leviathan either. So that’s a big thread missing in the ending, as it was intended for Clive to obtain all of the Eikon powers, The lack of Leviathan may have been why his body could not harness ultima’s power, it did not have that final piece.

In the end though, the goal was achieved, the crystals sucking the land dry of it’s aether were destroyed, and Ultima along with origin were destroyed, removing the source of magic, and likely the source of what caused bearers to be born in the first place. So the world could heal, as the aether was able to soak back into the land. And the blighted areas likely were able to be revitalized over generations. Until the history, and conflict, became fairy tale and legend.

Another thought is it’s entirely possible Clive lived and Joshua did not, and the story of ‘Final Fantasy’ was penned not by Joshua, but by Clive, as he was charged by Harpocretes the Loresman, to pen his story so that he might read it in full. There is enough plausible deniability for many different things to have actually occurred after we see Clive close his eyes on the beach. The only certainty is that Ultima and Origin are gone, and magic and eikons were eventually forgotten as nothing more than a fairy tale penned by an author years ago.

SO BLACK CLOVER

Only part I think you missed was the fact that Clive used the powers of the Phoenix to heal Joshua. Joshua loved to right book. Which is why his name is on it.

Now there been some back and forth on weather or not Clive lived because how can you have the curse of magic use when you destroy all the magic. Tbh I think he’s dead but at the same time if they came out with dlc or ff16-2 I can also see him living maybe being picked up from other people areas of the world and doing them same thing all over again, kinda like god of war

FFXVI had a very ambiguous ending, much like FF7 (meteor hits, lifestream attacks, everything gets bright, we see Aerith, roll credits) with no real closure. I hope there is later DLC to answer some lingering questions (What happened to the Akashic? Did Clive die? (when we saw him the curse had only taken his hand and that was it and he promised Jill he’d come back) Just so many unanswered questions. Did Cid really sent Hugo Benedictas “box”? I just dont see him doing that to her.

Back to XV, I wouldve loved to have seen that get all of its planned episodes, we got the obvious 3 as well as Ardyn, but Aranea and Lunafreya got scrapped completely and part of Episode Noctis got put into a book. so thats a bummer.

thanks for making this so i dont have to suffer through playing it

Clive sent the head, he tells hugo before they’re first fight

I bet you won’t do a story analysis and a retrospective of the Kingdom Hearts series 😏

Clive is definitely alive, the game devs gave all the clues throughout the story dialogues and especially in the side quests. Everyone’s picking up some of the points here and there but to lay out the 7 points that basically prove Clive survived:
1. The final crying scene directly references the side quest dialogue. When is Jill crying the sun rises and she stops crying. This is after Jill and Clive have told each other how much they mean to one another in one of the side quests. During the side quest she mentioned how she would cry looking up at the stars at night during dark times. She tells him that no matter how sad and dark the night is, the sun will always return at dawn. And that she knows that Clive will always return to her.
2. Biology: Wolves howl in nature to communicate with their pack mates to tell them where they are and to guide them back. When Cid is dying in front of the group, Torguil whimpers to show remorse and sadness as but actually doesn’t howl even after Cid dies. So the fact that Torgal is howling instead of whimpering is indicative of Clive being alive.
3. The last thing Clive tells Jill is no more broken promises. He had promised her he would return to her no matter what. And we all know Clive is a man who honors his word.
4. Clive tells Harpocrates that after his quest/journey is done he will put down the sword and take up the pen
5. In the final fight with ultima at the end. Ultima tells Clive that ‘this resistance is a fantasy he clings to’. Clive tells him that the only one living in a fantasy is ultima and that “this would be his final fantasy” (before Clive finally kills him). In the ending post credits scene, the book is titled “Final Fantasy”. The only one to mention that term was Clive in final battle and he was alone there. So no way Joshua would just happen by coincidence to title it the same thing considering it was based off a isolated conversation between ultima and Clive
6. When Cid died, Clive takes up his mantle and go by his name to honor the life he gave and what he stood for. So in the secret ending cutscene with the book author saying Joshua Rosfield, this would make perfect sense for Clive to do in order to honor his brothers memory.
7. If you 100% the game, the secret ending also has one dialogue line during the final fantasy book scene of audio of Clive giving the final narration saying “and that was the end of the journey”. Which is confirmation by itself that Clive lived to chronicle the story.

I’d like to think Joshua lives at the end. Feels like a fitting parallel to him dying at the end of the demo.

would you be willing to make a video on Hollow Knight?

Does anyone else get a FF9 feel?

There are certain parallels I noticed between XIII and XVI:
-The L’cie are like the bearers. Both are physically marked and shunned by society because they have been marked by a higher deity.
-Both final bosses: Ultima and Bhunivelze, are arrogant gods who underestimate human will, and when they are defeated, the world becomes void of magic or resets itself from any kind of magic
-And I might stretch it a bit saying that Lightning Returns and XVI are similar because you only control one character.

I loved the ending and the bittersweet mourning and grief that came with it. I’m assuming the power of the bearers were inextricably tied to the crystals. Like I hope bearers just slowly stopped being born as the generations went on, or perhaps their overt magical influence was diminished to sort of like a sensitivity to aether. Personally I don’t like the whole “no more mutants.” House of M snap to just eliminate the powers of the unfortunate to assimilate them back into society.

Also if we take a more ff7 or ff14 logic of the lands aether and how it begets the life stream. I like to believe the two kids are reincarnations of both Clive and joshua, in a world where they can truly live together in peace

there’s gona be a Leviathan DLC with extra ending since as much as we saw Clive beat a god… he did it without fully being the proper Mythos, he was to have 8 eikons… and he only got 7. I’m taking my bets that Medicine Girl was actually what they intended to make the Leviathan domminant, and in the DLC you’ll have to go to a new area with new enemies (probably a cave) where you battle Leviathan get the Eikon and fight Ultima with the full power of both sides and get a different ending, maybe having Clive ascend to godhood (Lobos) and help humanity or survive the curse due his complete ascension to Mythos.

I feel like Clive didn’t die at the end because he always keeps his promises and promised Jill he’d come back. And if Joshua can come back to life after getting a giant hole in his chest and dying I don’t see why Clive cant

The whole Benedikta in a box thing was brought up again later when Clive was facing off with Hugo he admitted that it was him that did it

Hey everyone, hope u are doing well but as humans we are all gonna die one die so I just wanna say If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.😁❤️❤️😉♥️

This game was garbage. Only thing carrying it was the cinematic fights and music other than that, everything else was boring, repetitive and story had soooo much bullshittery it wasnt even close to a master piece, so many flaws, so many “it just so happens” moments, so many “lets sweep that under the carpet they’ll forget about it or we’ll just give them a epic battle scene and they’ll grip on to that” wasn’t a Final fantasy game at all.

This was my first FF and the eikon fights were the coolest thing I’ve ever seen in a video game.

9:17 I don’t think it is confusing at all. Benditdika likes Cid do to Cid rescuing her from bandits or the like. She unlike cid believes the lies of Barnabas that he wants to build some sort of paradise with all 8 dominants. Cid saw through the lies so he left which hurt Benedictka, and in turn because she believes Barnabas lies she is manipulating Hugo to try to seduce him to their side.

Missed a few stuff and Clive lives. Side quests drop hints and the book is narrated by Clive. Also the platinum trophy is the book and it’s called the Chronicler.

This is one of my favorite stories for videogames outright the tragic beauty was the so far from what I expected it made me want to give ff7 remake another chance which I didn’t really find myself wanting to stick with

Final Fantasy XVI-2: Jill and Torgal travel the land ensuring that Clives will is implemented (Emancipation for the bearers, unifying the land with Byron)

Final Fantasy XVI: Clive Returns

There is the missing Leviathan. That could be it.

i love Gav

I think this game is my GOTY. The story is quite simple and basic with little to no high concept plot line and polished to perfection. Besides Ultima being a god that wants to run away from death everything else happens because shits happens. War is for profit, betrayal for the prestige, and madness comes from love. And magic just happens to be the hot commodity.

The one thing that never made sense is the treatment of Jill in the land of iron. Dominants are nukes. I understand they used children to make her change into shiva and fight for them. But she could just easily destroy their whole civilization. Never made sense to me. Also, the whole treatment of bearers. Like everybody obviously wants to wield magic. Their whole way of life revolves around using crystals for that very purpose. I can understand the country wanted to use them as slave labor. But it never made sense that people thought them inferior or less then human. If anything, they are better. They can do things they have to use crystals to do. Shit crazy.

I really wish they would have explained certain aspects a little bit more indepth.
The Fallen is just one example. During my playthrough i thought that the ultima was result of all the fallen merging together since they were so advanced technology wise. But it seems they were just the first humans created by ultima who probably just couldnt control the advanced magic they were researching?
The whole Logos aspect in the final fight with ultima. Logos being a concept which embodies something very crucial for ultima and his people something that puts us directly beside them.
And then this is just a little confusing for me: clive already took titans powers in the battle in rosaria. why take kupka to the mother crystal? Even with kupka dead clive would still go on and destroy the crystals. The only thing i remembered is that they talked about severing his consciousness so that ultima can take over. But then later Barnabas talks about that he is only presentable to ultima when he has taken all the eikons?

Please cover fear and hunger

Do a doom video plz

I was skeptical at first, but I was wrong. The story of this game really hit me to my heart and core. The machinations of the vile puppeteers behind the tragedy of this story really made me feel emotions. The ending though moved me to tears.

I like how the game heavily revolves on peoples willpower. From the Will gauge to clive losing his will, only for Joshua and friends to help him in a time if need. It’s a great concept and Ultima couldn’t break that.

the latest final fantasy feels like a game of thrones book

Thanks for mentioning that they all die at the end. It is a tragic ending, but demonstrates that freedom of one’s people comes at personal sacrifice. The heroes sacrificed their joys and lives to ensure those of their posterity. People keep debating about Clive still being alive. I️t was very clear that he died.

I really like this narrative, but can someone explain who ‘Logos’ is??

Had to stop watching you had some spoilers I just wanted to refresh my brain up to a certain part of the game smh