1000 planets was a huge blunder. They should have limited the scope to 3 star systems, with 3 major planets (all fleshed out with huge cities and lots of custom locations) and then several dozen moons, asteroids and minor planets with a few custom locations, and the rest procedurally generated. That might have worked.

Pray for TES6…

Veilguard
Mass Effect Andromeda
Saints Row
StarField
I’m starting to think it’s about the message, and not about the Money.

Starfield certainly wasn’t the best it could have been, but it was fun, and I enjoyed it. I wish people would stop comparing it to no mans sky however, no mans sky did space much better, but Starfield was a story in space, not a space simulator. I like both games, but for vastly different reasons.

Great games are played, not made huh, hmmmmmmm, yeah, I’ve nothing witty to say I’m so dumbfounded…….

why do game companies after creating a popular game leave to go make a new game? Why not continue making DLC for the popular world until people finally stop buying it? They should have been dropping Skyrim DLC every 6-12 months for a decade.

But… Muh NASA punk!? What about the near 100% gurl boss presence? What about this alternate Earth plotline where nearly 2/3 of those who escaped the planet did so from Africa??? Are you not entertained!?

I abandoned Bethesda.

Starfield lol.

The concept was the only good thing about it. I’m sick of waiting for es6 and this crap was a shit script and a waste of time.

lmao using the witcher 3 as an example is pretty laughable when you know how basic it is

I spent money for a new Xbox in anticipation of this game, and after a few weeks, I realized how awful the story and writing are. You can’t imagine how disappointed I was with this terrible game. I still play Skyrim and enjoy that much more.

Theres people at minimum wage jobs who get fired for making a pizza order wrong and yet the guy who wrote fallout 4 was allowed to touch ANYTHING?
Make it make sense.

Forget Starfield. Play No Man’s Sky instead. Better in every aspect

The caves are a great example of why Starfield sucked. The caves on planets were so, so bad. I don’t understand how they could have possibly thought those were fun in any way. Insane for a company that used to make unique and wonderful caves and dungeons.

The game was dry in story and a woke virtue signaling mess. Of course it died and only shills refused to admit it.

The other huge problem Bethesda created for itself is not running it’s new games on PlayStation. There are a ton of people including myself that love Bethesda games but have a PlayStation at home

Starfield was the only “rpg” I ever played where I felt that ive wasted my time……

This is what happens when you assume what worked for high fantasy and post-apocalyptic games will work for a game SET IN SPACE! There is so much that could have been done with this game but no–Bethesda got too comfortable putting players in a box consisting of 10 sq. miles. Space being infinitely bigger meant they would have to actually make this pile of Deathclaw shit believable by giving players everything that was missing.

Starfield isn’t abandoned they’ve already confirmed content is coming 2025, likely delayed by SAG strike, we know Sarah’s voice actor only recently got back to work. Expecting next update at Gamescom.

Because it sucks *video over*

1:04 you were excited? You must be below 25.

I rather liked the writing in Skyrim and FO4. I think people are entitled really..
I am too as i wouldent touch Starfield as i felt the price was a little high for what i saw :p

Starfield was nothing but an empty sandbox ready for modders to do far more work than any other title from Bethesda..
But Modders dont want to complete the game for them.. You have to have a fun game to make modders want to help and make stuff for it.

I have never seen such a disappointment. the *procedural* generation had far too little tiles and bits to pick from.. so everything felt the same no matter where you went.

I think Morrowind is Bethesda’s most interesting, rich and vast game. It’s old, but it surpasses by far all subsequent Bethesda’s games which have been increasingly simplified over the time.

I occasionally spend time imagining what StarField could become if Bethesda made an IDE for it that made new content development accessible and fast for indie devs.

It IS a canvas. It’s poorly filled in at launch and the Starborn powers were poorly implemented from a gameplay experience, but this could be improved. Limiting the starborn powers to a select then use function prevented chaining. Chaining, stacking, and power interaction effects could make the gameplay far more interesting, especially if adversaries offered a challenge. Range, AOE, targeted and auto-hit skill trees, purchasable from a power pool rather than random acquisition. Make acquisition just an unlock and a range of additional effects and use to custom build with a pool of power acquired over time. Then each time through the Unity increases both the challenge and reward power acquired, with greater skill required to achieve the greater rewards. They would need unique scenarios that offered additional unlocks or rewards that could potentially make every new playthrough engaging in different ways.

There is huge opportunity there. It’s a shame they never realized it.

This is why I waited to see others post content on YouTube before I spent money and I’m glad I didn’t waste my money.

I lost the interest after playing a few hours, my bigges desilusion was not being able to go from ship to the planet, i mean even if they add a cutscene after hitting the invisible wall it would be ok but i had to open the map and click travel

Humans in space “doing what they do” can be done effectively if you have great writing. The Expanse pulled it off perfectly. Unfortunately Starfield lacked that.

You can’t convince me something is fine

They have a good foundation. They need to make a new game that scopes down on a few solar systems. The story should be appropriate for the scope of the game. And they need to find a way to allow players to traverse the world without loading screens if they wish.

They could make Starfield a W by not making the same mistakes twice and take the criticism to heart and go back to handcrafted worlds and deep rpg mechanics, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that didn’t happen. Bethesda doesn’t really do criticism and I don’t think they care what people want. I hope I’m wrong because Elder Scrolls needs to be hand crafted. They did randomly generated with elder scrolls before, and it definitely lacked any sort of variety. I hope they don’t go that route ever again.

I actually enjoyed the game. The only reason I stopped playing is because I was sick of the same 5 points of interest on every planet. Why did they think it was a good idea to have the same building copied over and over?

They made a galaxy trotting sci fi game without any frigging aliens and all the humans were just Firefly cosplayers.
Also exploration of randomly generated environments isnt fun, we learned this 8 years ago with No Man’s Sky.

1:10 It was not the Fallout in space as fans expected and neither was it Skyrim in space which Todd was advertising.

Bethesda needs to stop putting together these wild massive ideals with total trash combat systems. Maybe play some other games to get a clue how bad theirs always are.

0:02 I wanted to see the bug.

I bought some premium package Starfield that included the first DLC (or shattered space or whatever). And even though i LOVED Starfield, I stopped playing and haven’t even tried to play Shattered Space even.
It is sad for me that they gave up, the potential was huge.

Biggest problem with this game is that other games have shown it can be done better… KOTOR2 – story driven exploration of a few planets dense with story and interesting encounters. Star Citizen – Open world with no loading at all, and everything is simulated for a very immersive experience. No Man Sky – Open world, procedurally generated with total freedom. And the list goes on… They definitly didn’t understand the market, their competition or their product.

Maybe the modding community can rebuilt it and they can come out with a new deluxe version and rip all them developers off also.

Problem is; The starting time period for this game. Space games were getting some traction due to the new seamless travel from space to planet. Also the new style of space flight and space combat systems. Starfield started creation long before this became the new norm. The core system was outdated before it even came out.

Microsoft is literally gutting and killing development of games people would actually give a shit about nevermind starfield which was pretty much universally reviewed as negative

and finally someone has the balls and power to tell howard to shut up and do his fucking job

I expect great things from bethesda coming up and more streamline focus on their IP’s people actually care about

If they would’ve just kept the base building from FO4 and fine tuned it for starfield it would’ve been better. Imagine like you could build your own settlement, see it grow, and even have to protect it from raiders that would’ve been cool

Like this was more than expected. Thats why we need to support Stop Killing Games. Remember guys
16 TIMES THE DETAIL.
Imagine in every other Industry you cannot TELL LIES LIKE IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY. Or imagine you buy a car and the car brand suddenly says. Ah hey buddy we need our car back and the money you paid is gone. This is written in every blizzard contract you sign when you buy a game from them.
The can take it FOR NO REASON AT ALL

The problem i have with starfield is that the game itself had genuine fun parts, the gun play isn´t even bad for a bethesda game. The problem is that they had so much potential to expand the base game. So many empty planets that would allow for dlc questlines etc. But nope. The entire basebuilding stuff serves no real purpose, so who cares how many planets there are with nothing on it just to build bases to harvest resources and stuff.. it just feels like chore stuff added to drag out the playtime for no reason. I also found the “scanning” of planets to be a frigging chore. When you can scan all planets inside a certain range why can´t this be automated instead of you having to click every single planet and scan it manually? And than you had some insane stupid fetch quests which pretty much just had you quick travel god knows how many lightyears just to get them a drink or whatever other cheap item. Ridiculous. I also found the lockpicking to be nothing but annoying, overdone and not even worth it most of the time. Pick a locked door, find inside multiple locked storage boxes… you get through the hassle of picking them all.. and the reward is usually just trash. Great design!.

My experience with the game, focusing on the main and sidequests, is that you are at times just watching loadscreen after loadscreen when you quick travel between one place to pick up the quest/talk to one person, just to then quick travel to another location to talk to another person, grab an item or finish the quest already. You feel more like a courier than doing something important.
The most fun part of the game was the vanguard side story line including the choice to either help the pirates or take them down. That had some genuinely fun parts.

I gave starfield another chance after finishing the main quest & did some sides… got horribly bored.

I went back to Morrowind to detox from it.

This is a game made for Gamepass slop enjoyers.

This video is by far the best explanation of why Starfield is a load of insulting slop that I have yet seen. Well done!

After all that has happened over the last few years I am surprised that Bethesda has decided to go with micro transactions.. quite possibly one of the biggest scams out there.

Anyone else getting No Man’s Sky vibes with this game. So glad this poor game didn’t come to PS. PC and XBOX users can keep it.

I bought the game pre-launch, built a brand new rig to enjoy it and everything I heard from everyone around me who also loves Bethesda kept me from booting the game up once. I’m just replaying FO4.

bethesda + microsoft = starfield

the math is mathin

I actually really liked my first 20 hours until xbox game pass decided I didnt need my save anymore

I bought Starfield. I really really wanted to like it. I just didn’t.

Pajeetfield

Game was so boring, I stopped before getting even my first powers. I almost feel scammed buying this turd. 😅

Your a lot more hopeful with Bethesda than I am. I’ve seen people warn them against their radiant ai because of how uninteresting the quest from it is.

I’ve seen people warn them about their quests that often broke common sense.

I’ve seen people praised them for their environments and environmental storytelling.

Star field is the result of Bethesda learning the wrong lessons repeatedly.

I appreciate the very frank presentation of this vid and the minimal quips and forced humor!

Decent video! But what is this accent man?! Definitely English, but every now and again, you go American for like one word hahah

Skyrim: I have over 200 locations.
Daggerfall: LOL

I get the impression that they expected Modders to actually make the game for them while providing what is largely an empty template. i have never enjoyed Bethesda games and I am glad I skipped this one.

Why mod for Starfield when we have Sim Settlements 2? ^_-

Wow, this game sucks ass.

The loading times when travelling to planets was annoying and ultimately stopped me playing it but the copy and paste bases was a joke, I kept thinking haven’t I been here before but I’m sure I’m on a different planet!?🤔 Never lived up to the hype, if it had its graphics but the game play of no mans sky it might have been something!?🤷🏼‍♂️ Cyberpunk is so good and fair play for the devs for sticking with it and making it the game they promised!👍🏻

what boggles my mind is that the success of the fallout show should be a damn wakeup call. they should ve building three dedicated development teams that are IP specific. its insane that there are DECADES in between titles of successful franchises. absolutely bonkers

Daggerfall had procedural generation – difference is Daggerfall actually generated more than 3 things and was interesting. :/

The thing that killed the game for me was going to a world that had apparently never been explored and had 0 people on it, only to find hundred’s of ruined buildings or mining facility’s… I would happily have a barren lifeless planet over a copy paste job.

they launched WAY to early. if theyd spent anouther year on more content and making it mod friendly their playerbase woild be much larger today

the generative “world building” was absolute trash they should have focused on single systems. hand crafted.

I’ve noticed you Heart the comments that put Bethesda down or point out their failings and ignore those who point out the good in the game.

Emil’s “Keep it Simpe Stupid” along with “Write What You Know” is a pretty big self-own on his part. He’s pretty much admitting that he doesn’t know much of anything other than the simplest concepts of writing a story, and SF showed that. I really hope other writers do not listen to that nonsense. It’s terrible advice. There’s nothing wrong with writing what you know, as long as a writer recognizes that the more you know, the better.

What are you taking about, ‘no aliens’? …you’ve actually played Starfield, right?

…who’s Bethezder”?

If you had long loading times your system is bad lol

Starfield is a framework for a game, with a lot of filler and a long outdated engine, no real time flight mechanics an a loading screen simulator.

As a mechanic it’s one thing to have loading screens, but to make them a shortcut to what could have been real time mechanics to transition from one space to another is just insanity and poor development choices. Again shortcutting.

Seems they took the idea from Firefly on the western motif for a lot of the planet villages and smaller cities, and from cyberpunk instead of bringing in new ideas. Maybe they should of really looked at some other games and how they did things like the actual flight mechanics transitions from space to planet side, like say No Man Sky.

Maybe someone in their development teams needed to actually read and watch some real Sci-Fi to get some ideas. Didn’t happen. As for modding the game well good luck with that. The engine could of probably used the original modding tools that was used in Skyrim and Fallout, they just needed ported over. Same engine, long in the tooth.

Would of been better if they had used Unreal engine or at least developed a new engine. The game might of really gone somewhere. And yes there are some players that willover look it’s shortcomings and white knight for the game. Thats with nearly every game no matter how bad it is.

Bethesda didn’t learn a thing except they know now more then ever that they can skip details, they can cut corners and they can put out crap and the people will buy their crap because the fans are suckers for low quality content. Way to go people, you successfully funded a crap game and didn’t hold the company responsible for putting out crap when they pushed it as quality.

Fallout is my favorite RPG franchise, but this game had me for about 15 hours and I left. It’s just lazy, unimaginative, and poorly written. R. I. P.

Quality is something that people have to demand, when people pay for crap, they are telling those who sell their wares that they can make money selling crap, but if you only buy quality and refuse to buy crap, once again you send them a message!
I for one will NOT be buying this game, nor will i be fast to buy any game by that company.

Why hasn’t it come to ps5 yet? How does forza come to PlayStation but a Bethesda game doesn’t.

Pure lack of talent

I have not played Starfield, does this random planet surface/map generation mean modders cannot fill in all those planets with custom content?

“8 years since a new, offline Fallout game” – that is very specifically frased.

I paid for the deluxe pre-order to play the game early before release. And I remember playing and thinking “is this some special build? Are they waiting for the full release to release the game?” But no, that was the game. I quit 20 hours in. And never logged back in for shattered space… which I paid for. Such a disappointment. I bought the hype, this was gonna be another generational game experience. What a lie. ES6 being on this same game engine makes me sick. I really don’t know if ill even try it. I definitely wont pre order ill tell you that.

you have no idea what you are talking about dude.

In short. Cause it’s bad

It wasn’t abandoned it was finished. They finished the game and then added some new content like cars and a map update, what more do you want dude?

you don’t have to walk, save up 20k and get the RAV, been a game changer for me.

10:50 new Vegas is not a Bethesda game and the dialog lines you are complaining about are in all Bethesda games.

“Bethesda had always hand-crafted their worlds.” Wot? Ever heard of Arena and Daggerfall? And do you really think every tree in Oblivion and Skyrim or even the Fallout games is hand-placed? I’d play a Daggerfall procedurally generated dungeon any day rather than visit a barren Starfield planet with an identical outpost though. It’s likely they lost all expertise in the matter.

I gotta push back on the idea that dialogue absolutely needs a utilitarian purpose. It doesn’t, it can just be there for character expression or to learn more about a character or the world you’re playing in. Bethesda games are life simulators, players are encouraged to explore the world for it’s own sake, that also includes picking the brains of normal people. You can criticise Starfield’s dialogue for being disinteresting, uninformative or poorly written if you want, I can’t defend that point having only played 20 minutes, but you cannot say just having a lot of dialogue is inherently a bad thing in this genre, it’s quite the opposite. You praise Morrowind, yet that had an ocean of “useless” dialogue just there to learn about Vvardenfell and it’s people, and there weren’t really any dialogue options, only binary yes or no options for taking or rejecting quests. Only real dialogue options I can recall are when you’re talking to Vivec and Dagoth Ur and those only provide player expression, no difference in outcome or tangible rewards.

Wtf should modders do Bethesdas work for them so Todd Howard can rake in the fruits of their labour? Get a grip Howard, make a proper game and EARN your f*cking money.

I don’t care if they have accents that are known to us. What are people supposed to sound like in a contemporarily made game? Do you want them to artificially create weird space accents?

They better learn from Starfield and make the next Elder Scrolls what it should be. I can’t understand why anybody actually likes Starfield, as you said it is boring, unimaginative and provides no draw to the player to keep playing. The only reason I did play it for a while was due to the spaceship designer. It’s like the became overly confident and a little arrogant and just expected everybody to love everything they do even when what they did deserves no love.

Fallout four was my first Bethesda game and I have over 7000 hours in that with like 25 gigs of mods and I got Starfield and I got fallout 76 and they totally suck. I will never buy a Bethesda game again.

I genuinely didn’t even know Starfield had DLC. I bounced off hard on day one and never really looked back.

Definitely a disappointment

its insane that their lead writer openly states that he doesnt believe in putting in effort.

It doesn’t matter how much money or resources you have, if you don’t have the ability and desire to listen to your players you’ll never make a game worth playing.

The last truly good game Bethesda made was Morrowind.

I’m so happy you’ve shown that video of Emil explaining his method. I’ve tried for years to explain to fellow fans he is the issue at Bethesda.

I stopped playing starfield when i beat the dlc and it was boring

Their open worlds were far from the best in the industry. I’d take a rockstar games open world any day. They also can’t learn from their mistakes as they’ve demonstrated an unwillingness to receive criticism.

They want learn from this. The more games they put out the worse they get! Modders are the reason the people play the games!

It was a still-birth, as expected.

The least they could do is release animation tools so modders could fix this mess themselves.

anyone who defended this game was paid or has a yeerk in their brain

I disagree. The problem is the public freated some crazy expectations

BEFESDA

100%. I lost interest before finishing the main quest, and that’s never happened to be with a Bethesda game before.

I played Starfield when it came out , I kinda liked it at the beginning, then I realized, you want me to replay it over and over just to have different endings and some changes to the story. The powers that you get did nothing to the story. The planets were mostly dead

I laughed at the term 76 fans, when you meant Bethesda tea drinkers. I bought it because FOMO during the B.E.T.A. event and uninstalled it almost six years ago.

i played 250 hours, a thought of booting this game up makes me wanna vomit

TIL there’s a starfield DLC

Starfield is like a tiny building with a massive facade. It feels big. And empty and lonely and shallow. I re-played it a couple months ago and I am pretty sure I will never play it again. Well, maybe Epic or Amazon will give it away in a few years. I’d play it again for free. But base building and crafting can be such a tedious black hole, I just use console commands to get what I need in the moment. Nobody wants to farm for 12 hours just to find a chunk of Unobtanium.
And the endgame is so stupid. You can basically keep on grinding in this universe or try your luck in a nearly identical parallel one.

“travel” further than ever before

I remember watching an interview with Tim Cain where he said the brotherhood, deathclaws etc were planned for the first game and they had a lot of different ideas for van buren (he had left fallout at that point however). he went on to say hes surprised all the fallout games are “here’s the brotherhood again, here is a new deathclaw design” the aesthetic was boiled down to the 50s Americana but everything is destroyed and robots. fundamentally, Bethesda just don’t have good enough writers and creative leads and a lot of it stems from there. we’ve seen it all, its been done. starfield to me felt like fallout 4 in space (but not really, space isn’t prevalent other than flying about a bit)

Stupid is as stupid does for Bethesda! 😂😅 I am not going to hold my breath waiting on TES VI. It feels like all they do is repackage old crap to resell back to us. 🤑🤮🤢

Not making another Fallout/Skyrim is just about criminal, especially since they’d rather waste time and money on what amount to side projects/niche games. I’ve given up on Bethesda and hope they sell their IP to competent studios (or go brankrupt and have to sell, though I think they are still in good shape… sadly).

I had a fun time playing it when it came out, but I never played the DLC… Definitely not a Fallout competitor

As someone who enjoyed Morrowind and Oblivion as a kid, modern Bethesda fans seem really tasteless and incredibly gullible. If you bought Starfield you deserve all the disappointment you get

Because it wasn’t any fun

Because it’s the ultimate slop-RPG. Not the first slop-RPG of Bethesda, Oblivion and Skyrim were exactly that: Laughable writing, dungeon-fest with no brain involvement required, bugged, poor acting, etc.
Otherwise, “radiant content” (auto-generated) already existed back then, Starfield is merely the result of what Bethesda’s game design has been evolving towards.

Bethesda missed the mark. I realize just play the games that Im talking about rather than hope Bethesda could make the games out there with a Bethesda fresh coat of paint over it. Fallout 76 should of been borderlands 4 player coop story with fallout magic over it, and Starfield should have been no man sky with Bethesda magic, but instead, it’s not that good.

Dev 1: You remember those Preston Garvey radiant side quests from FO4 that were super boring and gave no sense of accomplishment?

Dev 2: yea. Everyone hated those.

Dev 1: what if starfield had 99% Preston Garvey quests?

Dev 2: omg, brilliant!

They wanted to create “Daggerfall in space” but with a worse story, plus not learning from Daggerfall mistakes.

Fallout 4 was the end for me six different ways of saying yes See if they do a better job on Fallout 3 remastered than they did on Oblivion

I was caught in a starfield hype too but I didn’t pre-order, and after people started talking about what it was I just forgot and never check back I might pick it up one day if I can get it for less than 20 bucks but I know I would have to heavily mod it to make it interesting

Bethesda as we knew it, is dead. Now its just Todd Howard whimpering into irrelevance. It’s sad to think about, but he made his own bed.

Bethesda is no more, swallowed whole by Microshaft who’s laying off its entire gaming division.

Because they gatekept CE2 documents to the “verified” creators so people who made mods for free were flying blind. There was a lot of changes to how masters work and it was an all around mess. Modding support is ass unless you’re a verified creator and Bethesda can get that bag. There’s still no good nude mods, no good animation framework, no good animations. We can’t even dive because why? I followed the game since it was announced so I knew what to expect.

They knew modders would fix the bugs and add the missing content. They’ve lost a lot of their credibility over the last decade.

I will not be holding my breath for ES6.

I’ve been saying for years that the real cancer at Bethesda is Howard. They needed to get rid of Todd Howard after the drop of FO3. Until they do they will just continue to crank out the same old crap because Todd Howard isn’t creative and he’s not a leader, nor a spokesperson you want promoting your brand. Until Bethesda is smart enough to part ways with Howard, anything released by them will be the same old crap!

If Elder Scrolls 6 ever comes out and has so much as even a single micro transaction, I will boycott playing it. Just saying, in case someone from Bethesda stumbles on this comment. Read the room.

Fallout 3 was way better than 4

Emil has to be fired or at the very least demoted

You forgot the space marines🥴

I was excited for this game. Now I’m excited for nothing

Was hype for the game when it was coming out got it day one and it was load screen simulator

The Agile development model always ends this way. Minimum functional product then funding is cut. Happens in every avenue of software engineering. It was a bad idea made worse by corporate greed.

Emil Pagliarulo is their weakest link, and Todd is complacent, unreachable, and not leading the studio correctly; he should be catching this.

Emil is a one-shot wonder. He wrote a song that Todd liked, and suddenly the dude is lead writer. But as their games go on, Emil’s writing gets worse and it’s BASIC.

Throw in Bethesda playing safe on everything: here’s a ship, here’s constellation,. here’s a base, here’s all the workbenches, here’s an infinite chest, and here’s all the factions … don’t worry, you can’t exclude yourself from any of them no matter what you do.

Even Skyrim and FO4 had factions you COULD alienate.

Safe. Shit writing.

And they just won’t see it.

I almost bought a new gen xbox just to play starfield..glad i waited

I honestly stopped playing when I couldn’t kill everybody in the space pirate stronghold. Felt like I didn’t matter, and was trapped at the station anyway, because all the (over leveled) pirates went hostile. I didn’t want to be a ‘space trucker’, I wanted to destroy everything.
If they had made everything destructible, it would have been a glorious game.

Emil Pagliarulo is the worst thing that has ever happened to BGS. He is literally the worst. He will be one of the reasons for the death of BGS, mark my words.

Starfield is such a weird game because its biggest shortcomings are it’s too ambitious in some areas and plays it too safe in other areas. It can’t decide if it wants to be a tightly packaged, polished experience or a sprawling sandbox where you make your own fun.

Action rpg have a conflicting narture to them and and be a shooter adds to the problem. Combine that with a “don’t think about it” main story. Other than the ship hild there was nothing to the game.

ive all but written BGS off.

They should pushed it out to PLAYSTATION…fafo. 🤑😂😂😂

Fire Emil

Because it sucks ass😂

what.. skyrims story is bad… what
the fuck are you talking about. the lore propped it up but the writing was bad???? that is the most wild take ive heard youtuber personalities have on bethesda games.ill take some other things from this video but ima pretend you didnt say that shit.

Kinda sad cause Starfeild was supposed to be Todds magnum opus.

If that was a dream, what a sad dream it was

I really really tried to like this game but halfway through the story I felt so bored with it that I gave up…
It’s sad cause the game had so much potential (the trailers and Dev talks made it look and sound much grander than it was).
Another sad part of the story is that Bethesda doesn’t seem to have learned anything from this…

they used procedural generation in skyrim too. for the actual landmass and tree/rock locations

I haven’t replayed skyrim or fallout 4 in years but have replayed new vages once year because the writing is great and fun to follow. Writing is what makes a game live long-term

I forgot this game even existed.

More evidence for the nature of being a quick before-Star-Citizen cash grab.

For all its faults, it’s still wild how the Outer Worlds was a much better space western than Starfield. It took less time to make and was cheaper than Bethesda’s supposed next huge juggernaut.

Starfield 30 Day Average ca. July 10, 2025: 3,352.9
Oblivion Remaster: 6,629.0

That’s right, a remaster of a 20 year old game is doing better than Starfield in player stats.

It’s even worse: Rogue Trader, an in-depth CRPG from Owlcat, a game in a niche genre, is at 6,642.4, slightly more than Oblivion. Mind you it just got a DLC which raised its numbers but that’s still bad for Starfield.

The load screens are atrocious and their laziness in this and many other respects, got exposed by modders in short order.

When mods became available for starfield…and the same sort of QOL mods as Skyrim started hitting…it honestly disgusted me. I deleted the game. Can’t bring myself to even given Bethesda money for the Oblivion remaster.

I mean, we all have to remember that our beloved Skyrim is STILL a buggy piece of trash without the community patch.

It’s not as bad as me not owning my games. Or being told I’m a monstrous human being for not caring whether random NPCs have pony spots on their face, etc. But it’s so basic and lazy I can no longer unsee it.

Gamergate era kind of saved Bethesda because they mostly managed to keep their heads down. Now that that issue is mostly settled, lazy is hard to ignore.

Obvious from the start it would not be of any interest to me, but it seems it was far worse than i could imagine

I didn’t touch FO76 or Starfield.

If you keep buying this crap they’ll keep making it.

Because you can’t polish shit into gold.

Todd Howard is a wanker. He’s a non gamer that think that gamers are just dumbass wallet on 2 legs that will buy any piece of shit he call a “game”.
Every bethesda game have always been “ok but nothing more”. None of their game can be called “good”, they are always just enough to generate some buzz but always fall short in both story and mechanic.
Graphic are pretty nice overall, but that’s not what makes a game. You need a great story (which they cannot do) and fun gameplay (which they also fail to do).
At this point, i’m not holding my breath for whatever next “meh” game they release.

Planets were very lackluster. The visuals in No Man’s Sky are much better although admittedly they need to work on their creatures a bit.

I still love my Xbox and really enjoy Gamepass. I’m very glad I didn’t purchase this game. But I won’t lie, between this and Civ7, I’m never getting hyped ahead of time again. I’m even gonna boot up GTA6 expecting it to run about as well as CP2077. That SHOULDN’T happen… But this shouldn’t have either.

the exploration BS argument is the last thing I would hold against Starfield.
Was Fallout or Scyrim exploration great?
Tell me what exactly? Because i was bored.
Mods were the prime argument and freedom.
Bethesda was King, before we they were surpassed by competition.
Their games were always hollow and meaningless.
But they were themeparks for ADHD people…

Starfield killed me with its boring buggy and uninspiring game loop.
I felt like somebody who crosses the pacific without a boat.
No MMO or Lootershooter have such a life soaking BS meaningless and insulting gameplay.

The story had potential.
I do not mind the funny stiff brows up and down facial expressions, they are funny.
Not worthy for a selfproclaimed AAA company, but all Bethesda games game me potatoa mutch faces, beraely remembering a humanoid.
So I was more positive surprised.
But the story instead starting slow and getting better, it became stupid and meaningless tasks, that felt like homework.
And the reward was “ideal women” complains.
The men character were the worst in any game and I played more than 10k…

But the killer for me was the idiotic basebuilding system.I cant get deeper into it because of trauma.

loading screen terror not to forget.
How can we call Bethesda a AAA or even A company, if they can not come up with simple solutions?
Like, having a big ship, even with loading sceens, in the space and then using Shuttles for missions, Fighter for combat.
That to achieve over gameplay and story line would be a great gameplay loop.
But bethesda like every other AAA company give us unlocking colorfull stuff instead.
badly planned pürogression trees and perks…omg this artificial game extenders…

I hate this game, despite having no real expectations to it.
I expected a 5 to 7 (not the urinalist fake 7s)
But it is a 2/10 because it gave me trauma, so I hated every game for month after it…

Meanwhile, I am enjoying the new FREE update on No Mans Sky.

I pre-ordered Starfield and got Shattered Space for free right away. I still haven’t played it. I just didn’t care anymore by the time it came out.

Cus gameplay, performance and storytelling was dogshit, who would’ve guessed

I like to think that no matter how much you polish and pretty up a turd, its always going to be a turd.

Honestly, I think Starfield is just not for everybody. I agree with all the criticism, except the part that implies all those “flaws” are something that break the game. I don’t think it is. The emptiness and sameness are part of the ambience of the game. Space is vast, it’s empty. The interesting things are sparse and because of that are all the more awesome when found. Howard said it himself and I do believe it was intentional, and just the style of the game. And I agree with that style, in that having so much emptiness makes finding things a bigger event. And I don’t mind the emptiness. I can enjoy a peaceful sprint across a barren landscape, immersing myself into the role of a space explorer. Not all of starfield is like that, and if you want to stick to the scripted missions you can. Is the writing sub-par at times? yes. Is it enjoyable anyway? yes. I just think starfield’s style is just not everyone’s cup of tea. And, true, bethesda was leaning way too heavily on the modding commodity, and were maybe unrealistic with the expectations they had of them. Mods that change/fix core game mechanics, even when possible, are insanely big efforts only afforded to really popular titles, expecting such efforts to happen just because was wishful thinking.
Lastly… there are signs in the game, that earlier versions were far more hardcore on the survival aspect. I suspect they axed those mechanics late in the development cycle because there’s way too much vestigial content referencing those mechanics. Radiation, bio hazards, heat., cold… I wouldn’t mind a mod that reinstated and balanced the crap out of that system. It would be a wholly different game, one I would be willing to play, and I do believe a mod could do that because it was there in the game it seems. When I played the terrormorph missions, there was a storm that was kicking the crap out of me at the time. The weather was more dangerous than the terrormorph. And that was with the environmental effects nerfed to death. I suspect they nerfed the system because it was unbalanced, but if someone were to balance it… I would dig it. It was a hard mission to do against both the enemy and the elements, but it was interesting as hell.

Starfield was a major disappointment for sure…I’ve roughly 80hrs+ in game. The best things in the game is the soundtrack it’s actually really well done and doesn’t get the credit it deserves. The gun play is an improvement compared to Fallout. That’s about it

There are a handful of things the could have improved the game I and propped it up more. The POIs should have had their own random generation so even if you find another science facility or cave, they are never identical. Caves in particular were extremely bad. I think there should have been a way for some of the cooler side quests to be initiated at the lodge. It’s so hard to find the side content in a massive game like this. Temples should have been more interesting, especially for how many there were. And I certainly wouldn’t have complained if there were more guns. Shattered space was a missed opportunity and they just retextured existing weapons. The game world is also too static which has been something that’s bothered me in all Bethesda games. Even if choices “matter” they don’t affect the game world much from your perspective. And finally, starfield is missing that classic Bethesda satire. It’s far too serious. Fallout does the satire very well and even elder scrolls blends it into what would otherwise be a serious setting.

any given landing spot on the hundred plus planets has 10-20 dungeons. You can land anywhere and find new places to visit.

Dang. Sounds like a game made by ai or procedurally generated.

“We are soboring, we are so fucking boring”@

Bethesda is cooked, that the only thing to knows…

it takes some real skill to make scifi boring.
even if no aliens every single human society in the game is some sort of utopian not-american capitalists except the snake people until the DLC faceplanted trying to flesh them out.
Good job Emil
It’s not like Bethesda cares, they can just re-release their past games with a UE5 coat of paint and people will buy it and never bother patching too since modders will do it.

Speaking of “identity”, you forgot to mention something…

I tried to hang in there but I wound up deleting it.

This video blew up lmao

I feel bad for anyone who thinks this slop is the greatest game ever. Either they’ve never played a good game or there too brain dead to realize the game is mid at best

It also doesn’t help that they insisted on the hopelessly outdated Creation Engine even if “improved”. It doesn’t look good for TES6.

Nuclear Post-apocalyptic is ok… Elder Scrolls fantasie is ok… But why space shiptt?

Played it for 3 hours and got bored. Deffo the most over hyped crap ever.

Bethesda is the epitome of the old adage ‘A mile wide but an inch deep’

The problem being that they keep expanding on the mileage but the depth of the games gets shallower and shallower. There is zero reason to believe that ES6 will be a good game. Zero.

EDIT: “Bethesda will learn from this” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I do still want to play it but Bethesda so far refuses to sell it for price its worth 🙂 … hopefully it will age well and some modders will come to fix some of this stuff in some way eventually. And considering Skyrim development over years it should had VR mode from start.

I played through the story and was immediately disappointed when going to new game plus. The only personalization was lost because now I was in a forced spacesuit

Before I watch the video, they abandoned it because its ass.

I feel like I’m the only one who likes starfield. Your criticisms are correct, but I still like it despite that. I played the shattered space update and I liked it.

🙁

They abandoned it? Didn’t they just release an update in May?

You have said everything and you are right,

tho i think Bethesda doesn’t care anymore since they have been bought by Microsoft, they will surely just turn their games into a 100% profit machines instead of making the real games like before

I thought Starfield was going to be a space game that allowed space flight like ED or Eve Online. Instead everything about flight in the game is done for you. Even landing. It makes flight boring. Also, the colonization aspect of the game sucks and is pointless. I finished the main storyline and never went back.

Starfield was the worst game ever made and always will be.
I say this based on its sheer potential, it could have been skyrim mixed with mass effect, but its flaws are endless.

Honestly when the lead guy said it’s his dream project and this shit is what we get. I considered that false advertisement. Thus there should be lawsuits.

Starfield was supposed to be an MMO like FO76, hence the mission terminals.
But they changed it mid way after all the fallout from Fallout.

Also they were relying on modders, but the modkit took ages to release. By then it was already too late.
Everyone agreed that the game had potential. They just screwed the pooch with dumb design decisions and people stopped playing before anyone could even start to fix it.

Well, to be honest, the game wasn’t bad. It was quite good, actually. I did 1.5 full playthroughs. But compare that to the 6-7 I did in Skyrim and 3-4 in Fallout 4. It’s not that Starfield was bad, but it didn’t rise to the expectations. On the other hand, the only game studio that consistently manages to surpass itself with every new title is Rockstar….

The big problem with Starfield is the opportunity cost; you could have spent those hours playing much better games that had been released earlier, including marked-down titles by Bethesda-as-was. If, like their previous titles, it had been first-to-market I’m sure it would have been received differently. Instead there was a glut of new gamers discovering old titles and enjoying them.

SBI is also to blame😂

You mean because it is a dud of a game?

Omg you hit the nail on the head. Good video. You need more subs. Take mine.

Short answer…it’s a snooze fest.

same when i saw the 1st DLC it was meh, i guess i wasted my time playing the game…oh well

A lot of people criticized Anthem for having a bunch of lore and no story. Even that’s better than what Starfield offers.

Whenever people talk about not being able to fly between planets it’s such a crock of shit. This isn’t a space sim and was never marketed as such. It’s a space RPG. Not a great one, but complaining that it didn’t have sim elements that it didn’t promise to have is in bad faith.

You can see how the next Elder Scrolls is going to look. An archipelago of thousands of desert islands, mostly empty, but some with temples of similar architecture and slightly different layout. And you will travel between the islands on a fully-customisable longship – *cosmetically* customisable only, though, as there will be a loading screen between each island.

Never finished it, it was boring as hell, everything .. including the story.
The only thing that kept me playing was the building aspect (bases, ships etc) but they even failed at that point, buggy as hell, repetitive, alot of stuff straight up not working.

Skyrim and fallout was really bad i dont know what you on about? 200 locations? Looks like 1 copied pasted all over. Cringe quests combat feels like it’s from 80s.

I agree with most being said here except for the no aliens part. It’s actually one of the few things I love about this game. Dune, Battlestar Galactica, The Expanse, Asimov’s books and so on are incredibly well written space sci-fi’s and also human only.

The NPC’s look like they’ve all had cataract surgery.

I wish I followed my gut feeling and refunded this trash while I still could.

They should just have set it in the Halo universe with it’s vast lore and go from there. Or even do a The Expanse RPG.
The lack of handcrafted meaningful content combined with the loading Screen Simulator and no good lore whatsoever ultimately killed the game by design.

fallout subscription to store your inventory you need to actively play the game

I totally forgot this game even got a DLC. I did one playthrough of it and dropped it, cuz even that one time I was pushing myself to finish it.

I actually like the F4 story, and even the implementation. It’s simple, but that’s a matter of taste. Also artistically, atmosphere and sound (background music), characters are IMO pretty good in F4. The main issue I had with the game was unused potential, a lot of it felt unfinished, and forced choices, tho I get it that some people think it’s cool to force the player to experience the morally whatever gray world around them. It’s funny how many effort goes into forcing people to adopt this world view (Literally the whole fiction/entertainment space).

Fallout 4. Not a good Fallout game.
But it’s fun.

Starfield just isn’t fun.
It’s empty.
Space is empty, yes, I get that.
But my fictional space setting shouldn’t be. Otherwise… what’s the point.

‘th’ is not pronounced as ‘f’. Hearing that is like nails down a chalkboard

The game is perfect serviceable I think people are too harsh on it. They put bethesda other games on a pedestal.

They have used procedurally generated in arena and dagger fall so it isn’t new in their games and when it comes to the unique and hand craft location of the other games well good 50% of them are just slightly different layouts of the same copy and paste dungeon.

Once you been in one you pretty much been in all of them skyrim and oblivion were very bad for this.

The one thing that is trash about the game is the level up system and the way to get the powers.

Ship building was the best part

Well done summary of Starfield and what was wrong with it. Bethesda had so much success with ES and Fallout they thought they couldn’t fail. Any developer with those two IPs has to be monumentally confused to decide to waste time and money making anything other than ES6 or Fallout5. And then the final terrible decision was choosing a space game when they are extremely difficult to do these days

I had fun with starfield, and then massive disappointment. It was soo underwhelming compared to what we were promised.

TLDR;
It’s a boring game. Coupled with:

* Unlikable companions – tick!
* Annoying sidekick (you get 2 of them) – tick!
* Insanely annoying amount of clutter in “dungeons” that are cookie cutter’d to the max – tick!
* Rince and repeat quests (over and over) – tick!
* Cliche’d story – tick!
* Broken quest-guidance-“clairvoyance” system – tick!

I so wanted to love the game. The RNG created world, I can live with, but I literally F’ing purchased a current gen XBOX to play it the game. So, so disappointed – as is my banker.

Spoiler: Once I platinum Dragon Age Veilguard (PS5), I’m going to go back and bl00dy finish the game. Yes,… I need mental help assistance 🙂

25 years in making… Lol about 15-20 years there was a game called mass effect that did the same job😂😂

I subscribed to game pass because of this game, then after finding out about the lack of early access by subscription I bought the deluxe edition. After playing for 100 hours and not finishing the main story, I deleted the game and never returned. The DLC looked pathetic, although they promised to make it big because usually in the season pass “scrolls” and “fallout” there were several DLCs and here is one, in the end it is the worst DLC in history.

No Man’s Sky actually is an expanse of procedurally generated open worlds to explore while Starfield is an endless supply of medium size randomly generated maps you teleport between that pretends it’s thousands of open worlds.

I loved it

What pissed me off about starfield (and i have 100+ hours in it mind you) is side missions and a lot of lore stuff are set up to be so interesting and they GO NOWHERE .. ohh terrormorph attacked this facility i wonder what i will uncover.. nothing, not even the titular creature just a dungeon with a box and a bunch of blue balls. Every single quest and sidequest leads nowhere, is dissapointingly written or just plain nonsense fetch quests..
The only good stuff is the vanguard questline which is peak, the freestar ranger and a few other faction related stuff but thats it.. even the main questline is kinda shit tbh because it relies on the exploration aspect to be good but its also quite shit.

TES5 added a new formula of every…i think 2 or 3 minutes of going any direction content appeared. Meaning things were always interesting no matter where you went. Other games liked this formula and added it too…like Witcher 3 and other open world or semi open world games. Keeping the player entertained means hand crafting. I think terrain and landscape can be pregen to save time but it needs to be filled by love and care for the player

I was looking forward to this
It was so lackluster i never finished I couldn’t…I couldn’t push thru

I liked the game very much .

Starfield is an easy fix on paper to save for Bethesdas profits and that’s seamless traversal with online but very unlikely, community interaction, creation, and sharing experiences is what makes 76 and starfield is a entire universe and yet you are completely alone in their biggest game

As they say, go Woke, go broke. We’re never gonna like it, and I tried HARD. Ugly, masculine women, except for one, pushed feminism for gamers who are overwhelmingly guys feminists hate…no.

The moment I stopped taking Starfield’s writing seriously is when Sara says, talking about her past, that she used to play in a rock band in her parent’s garage. Me being into the setting more than the writers themselves I said “What the hell is Rock music?”. How can it be relevant 300 years after it went out of style and not only that, 300 years where humanity evolved without a connection to earth. Imagine being this unimaginative.

You say Emil just wrote humans in space but it’s actually worse than that, and it’s telling that even you can’t see it. He didn’t wrote humans in space, he wrote Americans in space, and it’s absolutely mental. How small minded you must be to come up with something like this while having limitless potential, it’s mind boggling

You’re kinda late 😂 but it’s ok.

i actually like starfield…. if only it wasn’t a loading simulator …

Fallout 3 was the best written Fallout game you are lying now

I subscribed as soon as you gave me that quest.

I loved starfield but hated that it was not multi-player. Just like I love Fallout76 but hate that it has no global chat system. I can’t believe modern dev studios are leaving out such critical/core elements in games but making sure the eyeballs are shiny (Star Citizen before it added animals…)

I can’t understand the logic, cause there is none.

Clown world.

76 has more players because there are actually things to do in that game. There are new updates with new quests every few months, and ever changing daily/weekly objectives to unlock items in the game. It rewards players who play really casually, and it rewards the die-hards with unmarked quests with souls-like convoluted mysteries that are buried in locked terminals, hidden keys, and notes strewn around the map.

Great review, spot on. Played through Starfield, it was okay, I enjoyed it. I’m no big fan of exploration anyway, so I played it for the story. Not going to go back fot the Shattered Space though for sure.

The creation engine was jank and had it’s quirks back in the mid 2000’s. That simply doesn’t fly in 2025 and they should have changed engines years ago. Also Todd and the old guard at Bethesda has to go. I’m not even a Bethesda fan but its clear the studio is being bottle necked by its senior staff who refuse to change their ways. As someone who worked in game dev it’s plainly obvious. It’s time for a major reset and new ip’s minus the dated Bethesda formula.

It was dead when the planets were procedurally generated… Bro just do like Warframe. Solar system, all planets, a couple of moons, handcraft them properly and good, and boom.

Want more? Make it unique, like, 2 disks and add another system… Make players able to actually *fly through space as easy as riding a horse in skyrim*

Starfield is why I will never, EVER preorder a game again.

Edit: Well, that and Fallout 76… but at least they improved that/keep trying.

I played it and I thought it was pretty good but it leaves a lot left to be desired. They could have done better, and this worries me that tes6 is going to just be ok. We need tes6 to be a slam dunk

I was very excited when Starfield was released as I was a huge fan of FallOut 4. I purchased GamePass to play it. I’m glad I did. It was so incredibly boring. I made the transition (I can’t even remember what it was called….Starborn?) Then I deleted it.

Even videos describing what makes Starfield so bad are boring. Imagine how much worse the actual game really is!

Bethesda: Modders, fix this shit.

Modders: Nah, not this time, chief.

The way everyone criticized the radiant quests in fallout 4, it really surprises me that Bethesda chose to lean into that with starfield.

Considering how incredibly good the Diablo 2 remake and oblivion remastered turned out, I’d be pretty happy if Bethesda just gave the same treatment to the Fallout 3 series (including NV and all the add ons). I’d happily pay 70$ for the bundle.

But yeah time for a new writter. The main quest stories are so shallow and unimaginative. This Emil guy seems dull as a doorknob… as one dimensional as 80s american family programming.

Gamescom…

I’m so glad I didn’t waste my time playing this game to figure out what a crappy game it is.

Stop Killing Game

6:55 nah, as an absolute fallout fan, fallout 4 had terrible lore, a boring story, and gross gameplay. Everything about 4 was trash. Fallout NV will always be one of the best games ever made

“Big as a lake, deep as a puddle.”

Its like no one stood back and said is it fun?

seems like Bethesda chose a genre where their game design strength did not translate well.

star-feces

Because it was shite

I really enjoyed the writing/story Skyrim!

i still play skyrim and don’t really do the main quest because dragons will continue to harass me when exploring

i agree with you star field is gone with the wind

Hmmm, No Man’s Guy is way too grindy. I gave up after a few hours.

The pirate faction (Raiders) had the best quests. Bethesda’s biggest mistake was making procedurally generated worlds. Got very boring very quickly. I agree with your views but I’d be surprised if they abandoned it. There’s a lot of potential here.

The sad part is. Starfield promised exactly what I wanted from a space game for a long time, and still do. Primarily, building my own ship. Being able to walk around in it. Getting a crew. Interacting with said crew. Going on adventures. Exploring worlds.

I was stoked. Though, I deliberately kept myself from getting hyped. And, the game isn’t bad. Just bland. I was so hoping that modders would add some flavor, such as companions, quests and more, but It just wasn’t meant to be…

LOL Bethesda didn’t abandon the game. They are still working on the 2nd DLC which wasn’t ready to announce during the June showcase. They are releasing an official hardcover artbook in September that you can order now. Why would they release something like this for an abandoned game? Something big is coming in September and will be announced in the August Gamescom. They decided to shorten the window between announcements and releases because of negative attitudes like this towards the game.

Calling Oblivion’s or Skyrim’s dungeons unique is a stretch. They had the same elements pasted in slightly varying layouts. They also had randomly generated quests at barkeeps. Oblivion had the exact same maps to be cleared out. They had the expansion dungeon where the razor dagger was that was surprisingly unique. I never played Fallout 3 because I heard that Vegas was better and I jumped into that.

Humans in space is how aliens usually play out of you look carefully enough. We don’t know an example of a true alien. It’s always clashes of cultures from the earth that can be replayed with nationalities swapped to fictional names. Space is far too big to portray in a game. In films you often see one town that represents an entire planet. You fast-travel there by a stargate.

I don’t think automatically generated content will go anywhere any time soon. With demand for higher resolutions and scales, they will always use aids to fill it out.

I bought Shattered Space at the same time I bought the “expensive” version of Starfield at launch, but I didn’t even bother to download it. Ugh, that game pissed me off for ALL the reasons you mentioned. Great video.

dude you summed this up so perfectly around 10m that I had to pause and breathe the clarity it illuminated within me

I was never a big fan of open world games. The only open world game I really got into was borderlands because I had a really good mapping system and if you grind eventually battles would get easier.

Once you upped the scale to something more than earth, it’s very difficult to keep the audience engage because it’s just too big. It’s literally too big.

What a tragedy… that some people are still playing and paying for things in Fallout 76…and that some people actually believe that Starfield is the best game ever made.

This whole game feels like a part-time effort.

Good approach of critique.

It would have to become a labor of love in order to generate a cult following – that is for the engine and game loops, likely not for the story or world building…for comparison: PETROGLYPH came back to support modders after two decades…

starfield didn’t just remove the open world and have bad writing. the parts of the world that were tailored were wokeist writing. i skipped aaaaaaaaalot of that game, trying to focus on what i liked about it –

(which, you couldn’t even really be a space pirate. every time you do anything, and steal a ship you have to pay a license for the ship to sell it, eating 90% of your profits… the idea of ship licensing is fine, but to overprice it like that to try to act like a balance against you earning fat cash was so lame. i just stole a billion dollar spaceship! give me a fortune!! don’t make me pay nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand dollars for a license and allow me to make $1k profit off my billion dollar heist, that’s so lame)

-but, ranting aside, everywhere i went, woke crap writing was all over even the parts i liked until it pushed me away from the game completely. no, space cowboy, your homeschooled daughter isn’t a third gender, and i don’t want to go on an adventure and treat her like an adult, ya freak diddler culture writer… seriously, someone check the writer’s hard drive, because if he did that sh*t in fallout 76 too, the guy has a gross thing about treating little girls like peers and taking them on heists and sh*t.

I love Michael Kirkbride and he’s definitely the core of TES’ esoteric heart (even consulting on ESO to this day) but we shouldn’t forget that it wasn’t just his work, but that of dozens, maybe by now HUNDREDS of writers who were all looking to expand and develop a setting that they’d fallen in love with. The mechanical and systemic failures could all have been forgiven if the world had been written with even a tenth of that kind of love, if anyone had actually cared about making this game feel like a place that you wanted to discover and maybe, one day, expand upon yourself.

Haven’t watched the video yet. Can someone tell me if Bethesda has abandoned Starfield or if the title is just clickbait?

What the heck is “Righring”?

Aaahh WRITING everybody. He’s trying to say Writing.

Mystery solved.

Gave up after my 3rd ship disappeared.

I still like Starfiled, even if the ratings are bad.

They made the same error SOE did in Star Wars Galaxies with its random generated worlds.

Starfield is a lamer, shittier Mass Effect 1. A game that predates starfield by decades.

I wouldn’t mind a space game without aliens but man, the main story is incredibly dumb, lost me after 10 minutes, it breaks immersion right at the beginning:

You are a random mine worker but few minutes into the game and you’re gifted with a high caliber space ship which you can obviously handle by yourself without any problem and win dogfights immediately. Then five minutes later you have to assault a pirate base alone…No chance for any immersive role playing and building up your character from zero. The writing and pacing is terrible.

My other favorite quest was when I had to deliver a message for a dude on a space station.
How about just sending a radio message!? Even when you orbit the station you can’t just Zoom call the guy, no you have to dock and talk in person which means you have to fight yourself through 5 loading screens.
Such bad writing, illogical immersion breaking elements kills every game or movie for me instantly.

Creations, paid mods, and creations pushing uncurated broken paid mods also killed the mod scene

It was so fundamentally mid on release. A real 5/10 that was sometimes entertaining but, for the most part, failed in creating its own illusion. Bethesdas answer has been to try to shake the pennies out of its customers pockets rather than improving their product. I honestly have no hope for the next ES and I certainly won’t be preordering it.

Time spent making a game should never be used as a measure to judge its quality pre-release. Plenty of 8+ dev cycles are caused by scope creep.

Close to the end of the story in Starfield, you are asked by a priest to go talk to two other characters for information. BOTH characters tell you that they already told the priest everything they know, and proceed to tell you exactly the same thing they told the priest. You return to the priest and NOW the priest has the information you need to move to the next step in the quest. What a waste of time.

Now I say with alot of love for Bethesda but the entire world and lore of Starfield feels like a by the numbers made for streaming scifi show that would get cancelled in like two seasons. The characters, the aesthetics, the writing, Its just so painfully generic. Theres not a single thing here I feel thats unique or hasn’t been done better before.

And yeah, I think Bethesda’s writing chops have been getting weaker and weaker and it kind of finally boiled over when you see where modern BGS tried to create a new universe and they just had nothing in the tank for it. People could look over it in Fallout 4 because the classic Bethesda formula, Fallout setting and handcrafted open world were still rock solid but Starfield had none of that so BGS’ weaknesses are all on full display.

They desperately need new writers/creative blood and they needed them like…ten years ago.

Two fousand and twenny free

Just so you know, there’s either over 180 or over 800 dungeons. (I forget which of those it was.) Someone kept track and posted pictures of each one as they found it. I don’t disagree with you, but at least do some research instead of ass-pulling numbers.

I kind of liked the lock picking and persuasion stuff better than other games. The problem is that nothing of interest was locked behind digipicks. And it makes no sense that people would openly sell digipicks.

They didn’t. STFU!!!

Starfield had amazing potential, but it was all a lie that multiple loading screens always reminded you about. Early on they made a critical game design decision which set them on the path of failure. The creation engine cannot create “realistic” planets or space as in say “Star Citizen” or a true space ship interior, it was all a lie. In fact Howard et al said the game was everything it wasn’t, they lied to us and made their money back anyway. Bethesda did a dirty, and built their “space” with what might have well been Unreal assets. What a waste.

I would be happy with just one planet and maybe a moon as a DLC

Call me a nostalgic Idiot… but Morrowind is the game of my life. <3

The short answer is because it generally wasnt very good. Had some good elements but ultimately was not the game that was promised.

A.i. crutch. Stopped making and started just copying
Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle

Even their most loyal streamers live Joov and Jabo haven’t touched it since release, that’s how bad the game is.

Besides all known issues, you may blame me and I will understand why, but still
at the meantime the is nothing like the Starfield
I am not being exited with Starfield, though as not dissapointed
BUT all because of mods, without the Great🙏🏻 Community🧡 it would be kind of meeeeeeeeeh
I deleted it, but after some time restored from a backup (Steam + mods)
It has own atmosphere, that can bring you some vague feeling

i remember lot of ppl called this game the star citizen killer…. well

If you have to rely on the writing of a Bethesda game, you’re in trouble

It was such a bland and empty game.

They knew it was a waste of time, just like gamers did.

I think the game is done….
I had forgotten about it all together.

Starfield took Fallout and put it into space. The problem there is that you can’t take a solitary locale and sprinkle it like salt across a bunch of planets because the journey will suck. Add to it that Bethesda sucks at making games and you end up with a poorly written vaguely competently designed game that needed a modding community that had an interest in modding the game to show up and they didn’t.
Starfield should have been Fallout in space where you are on a wholly new planet that has been partially colonized and the thing that happens is an asteroid slams into the joint.

This is why AI will not be “the answer” to everything. It’s a tool, not the solution.

I don’t think Bethesda is going to learn a thing from this. I hope they do but I don’t think they will

Too many copied interiors, utterly ridiculous crafting, a completely opaque pile of interstellar trade with no obvious way to build and operate outposts and fulfill contracts…it was exciting once, but I’m playing Oblivion and Skyrim AGAIN, with no desire to ever play Starfield unless it’s changed in ways I’m sure they can’t do. Frankly, I’m afraid the next Elder Scrolls will fail miserably, for all the same reasons. We don’t need better mechanics, better graphics, or more complicated crafting. We need decent stories, great maps, and exciting POSSIBILITIES.

Bethesda, learn? That’s never going to happen.

These guys haven’t made a good game since Oblivion (and I’d argue since Morrowind, honestly). Fallout 3 was neat and different and it paved they way for the far superior Fallout: New Vegas which was made by some of the old Black Isle boys at Obsidian, but as far as anything to follow, they’ve made absolutely nothing of substance. No, I don’t count Skyrim because Skyrim is only saved by its mods. The streamlined, watered down mechanics and barely present story in the tiny, bandit filled world setting of Skyrim isn’t an example of a good open-world game.

2 things I really wanted in this game, 1) having a wingman or 2. I wanted space combat to be strategic. If only a little. 2) Alien races. Man, this could’ve just made this game a masterpiece.
I played the game twice. It’s fun. But it would be painful to play more than twice.

Travel further. . .using loading screen 😂

One of the worst games ever made, from what is one of the worst games makers in the last 20 years

I put 100 hours of wishful thinking into Starfield, and regret every single one of them. The Oblivion remake crapped out on me too and I got softlocked out of my playthrough. I just gave up and uninstalled and will never buy another Bethesda game again unless 10 people I know say they like it.

Not gonna lie, that dude who lives alone on a moon just so he doesn’t have to pay back $200 is honestly hilarious to me. I’m guessing the money in this game is kind of inflated so it’s like what, the equivalent of $20? Man flees to a moon across the galaxy to avoid paying $20? Amazing.

This game fucking sucks but I don’t see how anyone’s surprised by it being bad. Bethesda’s just coasting along as they’ve been doing for years. Dead-eyed NPCs giving you bland, sensible-chuckle dialogue with _very_ occasional moments of genuine brilliance brought about through the greater world building just coming together in the right way. That’s how it’s always been. The combat sucks, the quests suck (go here, fetch this, kill this, etc without actual reasons for caring about any of it or being a supreme errand performer), and honestly this is the same thing I see in Skyrim.

When you aren’t dazzled by Bethesda’s other games, none of this was surprising. Skyrim has a neat vibe but that’s about it. It’s ruined the second an NPC shows up.

Starfield finally turned me off Bethesda games for good.

It’s funny how there’s this arc, with all big entertainment companies where they get successful, lose some original core folks to time, attrition or exodus, and then they all just completely misunderstand/forget what they once knew (and then crash and burn) because the people in charge are now a bunch of talentless goons in suits who only value profit.

You see it here, in Bethesda, in Disney with Marvel and Star Wars, and on and on. You’d think with all the AI and analysis tools available to them, they’d recognize the pattern by now, but nope.

Then something like an Andor comes along and the fans suddenly rejoice, and then the parent companies just react with confusion.

It’s not rocket science folks. For games it’s just: a good, involving story, fun moment to moment gameplay mechanics, and plenty of stuff to do. Charge a fair price. Don’t change what made the original great.

Ur final thought at the end… man, you are so naive, so innocent… how many times Tod needs to lie to your face before u learn ? U must be well under 40s, i would guess ur in ur 20s. Very young, very much no clue.

Before watching the video I’m gonna guess it’s because it sucks and nobody cares.

My personal gripe is that they went to all that effort to make a good starship customization system but yet you almost have to force the game to give you space combat. AFAIK very few of the radiant missions have any space combat at all.

The people who like starfield are simply incorrect. They make the world worse for everyone by Fighting for something that is objectively garbage.

Just give Morrowind a fresh coat of paint and a little fix here and there and call it good.

Oh how I’m disappointed with the way Bethesda games have turned out. It’s a slow burn of disappointment over the years. I loved Morrowind, I loved Oblivion, I loved Fallout 3, NV, Skyrim and even Fallout 4. I’m not blind to FO4’s deep flaws but I still enjoyed most of it.

I particularly didn’t enjoy the they way they handled the factions. Seriously I hated how shallow the Minutemen were. I didn’t like the fact that diplomacy, negotiation and alliances or a truce options just weren’t there.

For example the Minutemen and the Railroad didn’t have opposing goals. Different, yes but not hostile. It would have been so easy for them to negotiate an alliance. Exchanging intelligence for assistance with hiding or transporting Synths is a quick example.

Every Bethesda game has gotten worse since Oblivion. I don’t see that changing.

Empty worlds and it sucked

I was excited for Starfield prior to release. I was very disappointed to read all the reviews.

People who like Starfield genuinely have no taste whatsoever and I can only assume eat steak with ketchup and breath from their mouths.

You forgot to mention the TERRIBLE performance. “It’s already optimized”- F**k You, Todd Howard. Cyberpunk with actual Ray Tracing runs way better than Starfield. When the game requires expensive hardware to just run well enough to enjoy.. that also limits the potential fans and also makes modding even harder as mods can really slow games down even more.

But there was that one hot goth girl at gal bank, the only true inspiration in the game

At this rate Bethesda’s magnum opus is gonna be an engine which randomly generates slightly different versions of skyrim.

Considering every major problem with starfield were issues with non Bethesda RPGs 15 years ago, there is no hope es6 will be good. They doubled down on every decade old issue they could find, and made it the core design philosophy. 1000 worlds with nothing to explore and long load times. No smooth transition from space to planet or even inside to outside. 100 hours of dialog with nothing important or interesting. Story choices of yes or softlock. Starfield was a deliberate middle finger to every Bethesda fan.

Only way Bethesda could do worse is to re-release fallout76 as a remaster. Only way it can do better is if they fire Todd Howard and drop him off in a desert somewhere so he cant touch another game.

How come you say Witcher Free?

They’ve been slowly dying since oblivion to be honest. The Microsoft deal was the last breath.

The people defending this game are emotionally stunted. Besides all the valid criticism of the video here are my additions: Ship design was cool until I realized anything larger than a fighter was designing a maze, you could not control the pathing between modules. Base building was cool until I tried to design a supply chain between planets to create higher tier commodities and the shuttles would just not transport between planets. “Replayability” was the stupid universe reset at the end, when it should have been exploring the huge universe that existed in the first place, but the original universe was boring and uninspired. Constant immersion breaking loading screens. Please man, why did they design this game like hardware hasn’t changed since Skyrim? They didn’t have to make the design choice with modern hardware. Borrowed or worse mechanics from older games. Does not feel like a grand space game. Almost like no one tested ANY GAMEPLAY ASPECTS. Skills are boring or just don’t work. Elevators won’t work. There was a body missing that I needed to loot a keycard off and It’s just not there. Bethesda makes broken games and expects its player base to fix them. Bethesda has gone the way of Blizzard. They are dead now and we are just seeing the capitalists puppet their dead corpse. This is lazy and insulting.

Bethesda has always and will always do the bare minimum. You can see this in the games and even in the merchandise they sell.

Everyone knows it’s the mod community that makes these games not Bugthesda.
The star wars mod thats in development is peak.

I believe if Elder Scrolls 6 isn’t on par with KCD2 in story telling then Bethesda will end up like the courier with the platinum chip except Victor won’t be around to dig them out.

Watched a streamer play through this when it released. He spent a LOT of time complaining about the game. Decided he enjoyed his first playthrough, but, hasn’t gone back to play it since maybe a month after initial release. It didn’t LOOK like it had much replayability, apparently that was true.

It could have been great. It has its good parts but characters and story are meh because Bethesda’s talent has been replaced by politically correct wokesters. I don’t see how TES 6 will be any better.

Great summary of the fundamental issues with Starfield.

To be somewhat nit-picky, there are actually somewhere around 100-150 PoI (Points of Interest) to discover, but many of these only show up at higher player/planet levels or at a much lower frequency, so the initial pool of locations that the game picks from, is indeed rather small.

It’s funny how Star Wars (another IP like Elder Scrolls or Fallout with DECADES of lore) is the only thing keeping this game afloat.

They should not of released a 2012 game in 2023…

you can blame a writer all day but when its been Tom Howard for years causing problem after problem you have to start blaming the top guy and thats TOM HOWARD like Phil Spencer at Xbox who has cost Microtrash millions it only makes sense to blame the top guy #COMMONSENSE which was very lacking here in the comments and in this video

Everything Bethesda does is done at a childs level. Since morrowind, using your brain to play has been phased out. Hand holding and instant gratification is the new industry standard.

Boring, yep.

When they refused to release it on PS5 (regardless of the drama between Sony and Microsoft) I refused to buy it. I was hyped, excited, couldnt wait for the next Bethesda game to play from the couch like Skyrim or Fallout 4. I think not compromising hindered them. A whole population of PS players cut off.

Here are the steps to retrieve one of the relics to unlock the “Powers” for the game:

1: Fast Travel to the Eye
-Loading Screen 1
2: Dock with the Eye
-Docking Animation
3: Enter the Eye
-Loading Screen 2
4: Talk to Vlad and get the Coordinates for a relic. Get back on Ship
-Loading Screen 3
-Undocking Animation
5: Fast travel to system that Coordinates are in (and hope you have a ship that can make the travel in 1 jump or add multiple more loading screens.)
-Loading Screen 4
6: Select the POI where the relic is
-Landing Animation
7: Get out of your ship
-Loading Screen 5
8: Walk to the location the relic is inside
-Loading Screen 6
9: Obtain the Relic
-Cutscene
10: Fast Travel back to the eye (If you can, some locations don’t allow fast travel from inside so, -Loading Screen 7)

Repeat this ad naseum for 15+ other relics
And then double this to discover the temples for “dragon shouts, but lamer.”
Seriously, nothing like a “cool power” than regrowing pointless plant materials so I can pick it again. Only 3 or 4 (out of 24) of the powers have any actual use that you will use constantly. And the power that is essentially Starfield’s Unrelenting Force (Or Fus Ro Dah) only staggers enemies instead of ragdolling them.

They could still salvage Starfield.
Take all the suggestions about story content, new alien races, plot lines, etc… and create a massive DLC that takes your next trip through the Unity and drops you in a completely updated Universe. Instead of just humans, you can have multiple kinds of humans. Telepaths, Genetically Engineers Soldiers, Mutants, etc… Then alien races and new creatures. Add an actual significant reason to reach the Unity (more than just “Yay! You made it! Now do it again.”) There are ways to fix it, but unfortunately, I don’t think they’ll do it.