Important to note:
Keep in mind that though a fix to the building system was very deliberate, the effect on offset bunker mechanisms may well have been an unintended side effect.
So keep it civil and lets wait and see if it makes it into forcewipe (though I fully expect it will).

OMFG, I was trying to figure out for a whole-ass day why my Bunker base wasn’t working anymore. Frustrating, that little solo bunker got me through lots.

Ever since the recoil update, this game keeps getting worse and worse. Such a shame.

that face when you realize an ONLINE game isnt ment to be played solo

To be fair these changes only inspire and produce more creative, out of the box designs, rust becomes a predictive boring game when everyone has a predictable youtube base or mega bunker. I know its the general way people play by min/maxing everything but when these changes come, even if its only for a short time, it forces unique and different builds styles to pop up.

Still no fix for offlines… At least the zergs have to use less rockets! I guess that’s good.

I too waited for the mythical online to happen with my solo bunker. But it survived a complete 30 day wipe.

Well thats dumb I guess rust is a no go!!! if you can’t protect your stuff, what’s the point. it already sucks that all the game is anymore is a kill and loot simulator, just sad!!! There really should be consequences to killing in the game like you start as a blue a good guy if you grub or steal you go grey a not such a good guy and if you kill and loot you turn red because your a murderer! These consequences would change the game for the better!!!

The real thing they should do that is an opinion noone wants to hear (esp off region offliners) is that sulfur should be a higher yield and servers should turn off between 12am and 7am

defended 5 online raid last wipe with a offset bunker it will be missed

Even as a solo I absolutely hate the idea of bunkers as they are just exploiting the building system. If it was intended as a feature then that’s a different situation, but who honestly has fun raiding bunkers?

On the otherhand, I completely agree that this harms solo players and that sucks, so hopefully they have some other balance ideas in their sleeves to compensate for this

I just finished my triple offset bunker base with six ouside offset bunkers connected to outer TCs and pipe system through the walls to auto deposit opencore loot during a raid. Now the design I worked many hours on is obsolete. Welp time to think of something new.

I think this will mean the future belongs to the wall stacked bunkers (that i actually love 💕).. let’s make some cool wall stacked bunker design @gamelightz

Finaly a good update …

i honestly dont get why so many players are using those type of bunkers anyway. by far the best bunkers are pixel gaps. offset bunkers just increase the raid cost while pixel gaps go unnoticed by most raiders so youre acctualy able to keep your loot

“Because who like playing Rust 2 days in a row?” 😂 Absolutely goated

Is this on console aswell?

Love the video and your content, hate the update. I understood 12 autoturrets because it hurt big groups but destroying a solo-small group focused mechanic? I don’t get it.

Finally! Thx FP for removing this broken mechanics

I’m working on a new 2×1 base with 3 bunkers that still work. Pretty straight forward. There will be a vid on my channel for anyone who needs it.

Tbf quite frank i dont really have an issue with bunkers being patched/nerfed since i think its quite clear they werent an intended building mechanic. However, i think a way they could remedy this would be to buff doors to kind of offset (lol) the bunker nerf.

good.

This is why I went and made my own server and put /remove free for all players. Every time Facepinch messes something up I’ll get a mod to fix it like the turrets going offline cuz you built more than 12… not on my server.

Offset bunkers have been unpatched. Y’all can stop freaking out now.

It’s honestly getting boring. Why do they eliminate the possibility of being creative? It’s garbage.

Does this mean that standard pixel gaps are being removed aswell?

i’ve did so many fair early game online raids with some scared noobs hiding in their bunkers which lead us to never online raid obvious bunker bases again. Happy for every bunker being removed from the game. It’s way too cheap to have all your loot in a base tanking like 30-50 rockets and some stupid hqm double bunker core which is another 32. Unreasonable cost.

Pretty sure it was me who discovered this. I (Onlyhams) posted it in LeftyPs discord as I was messing about trying to build the hawk on staging.

Tf is wrong with these devs are they having crack and or heroine based issues like wtf

“Because hey who wants to play Rust to days in a row?”

Omg this hit me to hard.

facepunch runs a 30 man clan and removes anything that is a minor inconvenience to them.

Time to build 100 2x1S and take pay intuitions to the grub academy like griff the grub. Only way to play now is to care about nothing, not even progression as a solo and just go wild pissing off the servers

Wow wtf. Then they should be considering better door options for defense as well as other protections. If it’s because ppl had broken bunkers because they built them wrong that’s on them. Realistically there’s no point in playing as a solo for more than a day.

I feel like this game is trending towards fortnight .. If I can’t place enough turrets or use building techniques to make offlining sufficiently expensive / time consuming .. there’s no point spending sometimes hours to get a start and a decent base down, only to loose it overnight .. the antidote to that will be, make bases cheaper to build .. wouldn’t it be cool if you could gather resources really easily …

Looks like Solo bases are back on the menu boys!

Stability bunkers entered the chat

I’d like to see buffs/ debuffs to doors. The more people auth’d to TC/ door the higher the damage multiplier. If a Zerg is going to run 30 deep they can nuke any solo base with 30 minutes of tea boosted farming, bunker or no. The trade off for that kind of firepower is walls/ doors made of paper.

The solution, every wipe build constantly 2×1 all over the map and spread U LOOT 🙂

ive never seen a game release so many shit updates back to back to back

They really should just address bunkers as a whole by making doors stronger. I know they are an intended weak point but if people constantly circumvent this by have 6 different kinds of bunkers and or Garage doors up in 2 hours, whats the fucking point.

bruh why do they consistently make the game easier for 20 man zergs. these zerg players like the game but wont play solo. solo players on the other hand love the game and are far more dedicated.

Tbh im gonna have an awful day now 😢

Rust…the one game where the most toxic people play and the dev teams HATE solo players with a passion…. That’s why I quit playing…That and the outrages amount of cheaters that blatently cheat without any problems.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I knew Rust, bit I didn’t know that I don’t ACTUALLY know Rust

hahaha finally

or you just use a non offset bunker

G Lightz! Why u don’t use floor stuck? U build so good. I think u can build something unreal with floor stuck!

Is the triangle splash bug patched?

will the pixel gap bunkers still work on the trio base?

Next update … if you are not in team -25% farm rate, +25% increased hunger/thirst.

So what does still work?

man they only doing update to fck with solos and duo players only meta is playing in big clan with braindead big group who can infinity spawn same with recoil changes every little kid can now spray ak so no skill gap who sees who first wins fight before all these updates people had to learn recoil and had chances against big groups if they had bad aimcontrol now its all easy for this little dick clans against small groups and solos game getting bad man no skill no fun in this game but perfomance still shit and who says go play solo duo server its still who sees who first gets the kill and wins

Part of playing solo is rolling with the punches. It’s the hardest way to play the game and if that doesn’t sit well with you, find a team and quit crying. That being said facepunch has buffed offline raiding at least three times recently and it makes me mad, it’s just moronic. Their poor decision making and clear money grubbing is gonna kill this game.

THIS SUCKS! Just make the game even more impossible for solos, wtf facepunch

Sounds like a great time to take a long overdue and extended break from Rust. Again. 😂

i never said that if they add anything that the game will die but this . this is wayyy to far…

FFS – my best bunker have gone…
edit:
Do you sure they will patch this? I have many opinions that they wil NOT patch this bunker.

Honnestly, as long as they don’t patch the pixel gap bunker I’m fine. As a solo, I don’t care if people raid me, as long as they don’t grief my TC I’m cool. However, I’m kind of a bit excited to see what you come up with. Is it the time for a Temple V3? Goodbye for now, and blessed be! <3

Facepunch is so out of touch these days.

Yet another update that only punishes solo/ duo bases, cheers!!

Facepunch does everything to make zergs stronger and solos can eat D***

Facepunch could have spent the time “fixing” this on so many useful things. But no they just decide to screw the solo’s even more than they already have.

This should be official feature ,not to remove them.would be very upset if they go thru with it.

I am happy they remove this shit from the game

Devastating news, but thanks for sharing it before the wipe.

Yay some building exploits have been fixed (the real issue here, not bunkers themselves). For complaining about not having a base in the morning; I haven’t been raided in 3 years online or off. I never build massive bases, or exploit bases like bunkers; nothing to attract players to care to raid me. Or build in hidden spots. Or spots people usually don’t go to.

Facepunch L

this game has more cheaters in it than any other game i have ever played; the changes to building, offset bunkers, etc. are the least of the problems.

Thanks for the update ♥

Bro bunkers may not originally have been an idea from face punch but they are an insanely important part of the game at this point

If they touch my floor stack or classic stability bunkers or stair bunkers (again) then I’m done because it’ll be impossible to play as a solo unless it’s a dead server

So its time for me to finally post my bases. I found a new kind of bunker a long time ago, never got fully raided with it, because its to op. Didn’t want to upload it before, because everybody will abuse it. But if there are no more bunkers, its time for mine, just wait for it 🙂

when i online raid they will still insta seal bunkers instead of defending so makes not difference

You’ve showed me the way of the offset bunker and I have loved it ever since. It’s only fitting that it is also you, that informs us about it’s demise. Every single one of my bases has had one and I’ve built tons of variations of it. What a truly sad day.

Common facepunch L. Honestly I love getting offlined and starting on the beach daily. Thanks FP!

Its fine. Just use doors to swing you in and out of a sealed bunker 😂

I get it they’re dope and it’s cool to find this shit out, solos need something to protect themselves yada yada, (I am solo or duo at most). I just think that you shouldn’t have the best ways to build be the least intuitive shit possible. Less bunkers and manipulation of build mechanics, the better in my opinion.

What about pixel gaps?

I like they fixed it.. i am solo player and raids are impossible now.. even against solo players with these methods.. you will survive two minutes with rocket launcher or building turret raid base.. i loved old rust it was more fun more raids… now its pretty hard have good raid on vanilla.. and hacking problem its insane every server you go .. you see ban every hour maybe.. it means there is always hackers online ESP you around map..

Rip god bunkers, you kept me safe for a long time old friend.

Harumph.

I am still convinced that the facepunch team is a 40 man clan and they are doing as much harm to small teams as they possibly can

u can just build further out and it will work again 🙂
i did it on branch

Removing these is only making solo-life even worse. Means you need to build bigger for the same security, meaning more upkeep, meaning less fun as a solo.

Where can I find new bunker designs once this update comes out? Ive been using this bunker for a long time and I’ll want to be up to date if we find a work a round or new method.

ohh well, rust is dead…

REEeeeeeeee!

i quit.

Facepunch devs play in 30 man zerg. That was confirmed long ago. They just hate solos

Honestly, its time now to increase raidcost. Its just too easy to farm 30 rockets, even as a solo. Raiding in rust is not everything & you only nerf zergs by making explosives more expensive. And not just 50%, more like 200-400%

Nice, next step patch floorstacking and peaks

going to just make an external tc with a workbench on a foundation and despawn my loot in my base every night i go to sleep now.

literally just going to despawn everything when i get off for the night now and go to sleep in outpost with my workbench.

Somehow they’re gonna come out with a patch next that makes it so you can’t make your base look like you’re poor

huge L

SO GODDAMN SICK OF FACEPUNCH RUINING THEIR GAME FOR SOLOS. WTF. why cant they focus on fucking dealing with cheaters by improving their anti cheat than making it more diofficult to now play as a solo!

Back to low pop, it is

i understand this but still. why can’t we have nice things in life?

Unreal man. Rust was such a interesting game with the build mechanics. Good to know I now have nothing to look forwards to when playing the game. Helk you pos

Good. Bunkers are bs. Just another exploit to cater to sweats

I am sorry but I loved this one! Yes! Finally!!! It was also causing a lot of fps drops to people walking by from these type of bases. Hope they will soon patch all bunkers and just show us their own bunker door which is in the assets.

Okay for anyone asking here is the bunkers that still work: gamelightz standing pixelgaps, 2 triangle floor pixelgap, 2 square floor pixelgap, freehand roofbunker, (wallstack) multi tc roofbunker, raised foundation bunker, suicide bunker(dropbox, box through wall thing), the newer version of stair bunker(the one going throuh a wall), various vending machine bunkers(you can jackhammer it for half the loot). If i missed any, feel free to comment it. i just tested these bunkers so they should work on wipe as well

I abused this bunker glitches to the max and still never deterred an offline raid, they actually go through walls instead of doors lol🎉🎉🎉

so basicly they making the game more zerg friendly again… less turrets at same time.. now no bunkers that saved my base many times.. and also turrets wont shoot if chainlink is in the way thats sick… i can understand nerfing the double chainklink mechanic but if 1 chainlink will prevent it too then big FU for devs

Facepunch be like: quick they having too much fun let’s break something

You say that as if people don’t have multiple bunkers in their base and hide all their loot even during onlines lol.

the Turrets things will be reverted, it was a miscommunication on the dev team.

This bunker was so overused by base designers that now many people think that there’s no more bunkers lol. There are plenty of other bunkers that are just as good (or even better in certain situations)

Rust is pushing more and more into helping zergs, roofcampers, and cheaters and has been at war with solos for as long as I can remember so this is nothing new, just one more thing to make a solo’s life worse.

Does this apply to disconnectable tc’s as well? As the roofpiece lowers the stability of the floorframes so they break, he mentioned the stability doesn’t lower as much as it used to.

Im a solo Player with over 4k hours. I aint very good but I realy was depending on Bunkers all the time to prevent offlining by groups… sad to see the game going more and more into a zerg direction

I figured they’d patch floor stacking not this lol

That’s very unfortunate to put it mildly. Every one of my (up to date) basedesigns are based on these kinds of bunkers. Be it a doublebunker in the core or external bunkers. Solo/Duo wipes will now be that bit harder again.

After the recoil and bunker changes, and the industrial update, I can’t even enjoy this game as a solo/duo anymore.

Ppl discovering this after sealing their bunkers

What’s funny is I see everyone crying about offlines, but when I see a server with offline protection, everyone cries about that until the admin removes it. Everyone wants to offline but nobody wants to get offlined.

RIP

3k hours here, mostly solo.I hope they will introduce some sort of offset here (e.g. doors having more HP or so), because this certainly disfavors solo players and favors zerg mega bases. With bunkers, you could have a decent upkeep, that didnt require you to be a farm bot and zergs often stayed away since it didn’t match cost to benefit considerations. They must find a way to make solo bases expensive to take, otherwise solo players will die out…

This games dead since recoil glad I deleted it

I hope they remove every single bunker in the game. We all know, that bunker Andy’s during an online raid, instead of defending, they seal bunkers and pray you dint bring enough.

A 1×1 should not be 16 rockets to raid.

I have not had problems with off line raids. For 3 reasons.
1. Overlapping tc’s. As long as I have my workbench I snow ball after an offline.
2. I build up my base according to the loot i have inside. (Like every one should)
3. I don’t sleep on boom. If you offline raid me, you will never profit. You get comps, guns, but no sulfur back. And i can get comps and guns back in 30 min or less, just need my workbench and im good

Bunker Andy’s never online raid, so its hipocritical to complain about offline raids, when you offline raid yourself.

@gameLightz does that mean pixel gaps are broken aswell?

NOOOO.

Do you think they patched this on accident, trying to do something completely different and it will come back? Or did they say specfically offets are gone? And does this also affect vertical pixelgap bunkers or do they still work?

dw guys u just need 500 hqm 50k metal and 100k stone so you dont get offlined

Good. Bunkers are exploits that we’re never meant to be in the first place.

bout fucking time

Lets boycot em for removing the offset bunker. They are simply making it as unfun as possible for us to play in smaller team bases and have good offline raid protection

Good

Hey Gamelightz! So firstly ‘poo’! Now I got that out the way, is it possible tocreate a new bunker meta, could we go out 11 triangles? or go out 9 go out 9 …go out 9???? Will the ‘used by Willjum’ two raised triangles and a twig halfwall suicide bunker still work? We ‘YOU’ are the creatives We can beat this! Can we beat this???? All the best in the future regardless mate You have given us much more than bunkers so am certain you will soldier through!

SHIT

maybe they now we just have to offset it more to have the same effect? idk

ngl i dislike bunkers as a concept so i dont mind, i see the issue builders have but realistically bunkers should be its own mecanic with associated cost rather than a bounch of exploits.

i dont think it changes much as far as raiding goes, on any noteworthy base worth bunkering ppl just boom trough walls rather than following door paths in my experience

I really dont like this… why, i mean bunkers are the coolest thing, they patched the spiral staircase bunker, the various roof bunkers and now this…. I mean we still have pixelgaps and freehands, but if they patch those i might as well close rust forever. They are trying to make rust less solo friendly

❤ thanks for the update and I am kinda sad about this update. Offset bunkers were OP

Oh just make a suicide tc room and use dropboxes you goofball. Break the drop boxes when you have the tc stocked so they wont know what honey comb it is stuffed into. You might wake up to a cleared base but youll wake up to a base and some amount of resource you can drop box out to yourself.

I loved this game because it was a hard game now it’s to easy with no challenge devs you have killed the game well done

Devs killed this game a long time ago

bruh, this turret nerf its a fucking joke

FINALLY. time for good builders to be rewarded again. copying youtube glitches was never a fun game mechanic especially when it was meta. now if they could go back to the days of building inside of the ground for foundations that build halfway through that would be amazing for hidden basements that don’t use a bunker entrance.

Rust is incredibly boring and their updates are retarded.
Started 7 days to die recently and it’s like 100 times more fun than rust. And if a shitty, glitchy game like that is more fun, why even bother with rust.

Dude I had a feeling something changed lol had a god bunker going in a 2x came back later and was ceiled in forever after breaking twig

That would affect detachable externals as well ,or?

i’ve played rust from the start but facepunch has and always will favor the clan and groups over single players, there has been 100’s of little things solo’s could do to hide their loot and everytime it gets patched without fail. Then they add more stuff for clans to get more loot … the last time i played my friends base next to me was getting raided by a clan he was offline (shock i know being offlined) as they got through his bunkers roof … they jumped in and i threw a grenade in … killed the lot .. i sealed his roof and setup a turret inside … i then respawned back in base … but somehow they knew where i was and said if i didn’t give them back their kits and ak’s they would be back … about 30 mins later they missile silo’d my base to foundation … solo and duos have a lot to contend with and everytime we find some little thing to try to hide our loot it gets patched

UPDATE FOR EVERYONE: While the bunkers still remain broken, one of the devs have reverted the changes to the turrets not being able to shoot through chain link. It’s stated that while it is intentional for turrets to be able to shoot through chain link, player projectiles being blocked by more than two chain link walls isn’t.

Does floor stacking still works?

Raid costs are abnormally low dudeee, raiding shouldn’t be this casual I think. On the other side game will be much more fast tempo which means I don’t have to play all 4 daya of the wipe and play the most fun 2 days

I’m sorry to say but.. when I see y’all complaining like that when you have such a great game and mechanics I’m kinda sad. As an Ark fan, the things are worse over there. Duping, aimboting and last but not least meshing. Rocket spammer too. Ark is so full of bugs and unfix issue but instead of getting good work on it we have DLCs and a graphic rework. And I’m not complaining either. But let me tell you, my next game will be rust and I’ll enjoy it very much.

Top 3 leas favorite update for me.

Top1: Recoil change
Top2: no wall stacking (so many amazing footprints lost forever)
Top3: no more amazing solo bunkers

But hey, I stopped playing anyways. I may do a trap base once a year or something…who knows.

I have found that out of all bunkers, the one that consistently works across multiple updates are the ones EvilWurst uses in his ‘Tycho’
After testing it on staging, they still work – although the message ”too close to another building” keeps popping up, with some effort and fiddling you can still place it.
I like this style of bunker myself, because it means you dont need a door (so raiders always have to go through walls) and it closes itself with a simple shotguntrap/flameturret. Rather than upgrading roofs before you logout, you just leave it as is. Lowest effort for highest security.

Also, with the shipping container skin, the method of building out 8 squares and building back with triangles, leaves NO gaps.

Does the throne still work?

I’ve been falling out of rust over the past year, just enjoying building servers and pve(don’t even need the bunkers there), but it was the only “fun” thing to do besides just throw up squares and triangles everywhere lol Ah, well. Everything has an end.

While they’re messing with the building system, hows abouts we get some quarter circles that we can use in place of triangles?

They are making a mistake. That will kill the building community imo. I can see myself moving to a different game. Building was my baby and if they wanna kill it, ill just go play ark or something. I dont mind moving to a game that makes me comfortable. Whats the point in learning all the nuance if they are going to simply remove it. This is like making redstone changes in minecraft, we would spend ages coming up with ways to use redstone only for our long learned methods to get destroyed.

They changed vehicle physics so I can no longer fly the same. They are changing building now too? Everyone already complains about ‘old recoil’ and they are creating a new troop of ‘old building’ people. Now chat will be riddled with ‘old recoil blah blah’ and now ‘old building blah blah’

They could just stop changing things that dont need to be changed. They could also stop changing things that might have unintended consequences.

i was dissapointed that they fixed pixel gaps.

well I guess we are back to the roof bunkers.

stability only bunkers, ey, gotta evolve my ways again

Is floor stacking and pixel Gaps working

Rust is tooooo easy with this, so good it got finaly patched!
Me and my 150 friends can’t wait to roam around and raid 1×1 bases now without having trouble with bunkers 😀
*sarcasm* ofc!

Does this also patch out the super efficient conditional roof open/close bunkers?

F

First my turrets and now this. Having been so upset in a while

build 15 triangles out and when building back with squares remove the foundation it would normally snap on making a triangle foundation gap which you can place 3 furnaces in, unless thy patched this one too

Im always SOLO and if they fix ALL Bunkers I need to stop playing Rust, Even with Bunkers u get raided and without its so much easier that the game makes less sense to play ist

i give them one more year and by that time they will have completely ruined there game, rust nowadays get designed by people who obviously not playing rust at all or totally hate there community and only looking for profit. am i wrong?

When did the change happen? Because I have an offset bunker that works still

I would appreciate an official game mechanic for bunkers, which is basically the suicide bunker (I guess).

Man, I just got the hang of offset bunkers. Was feeling good about my building skills. Building skill is a good way to make up for pvp skill, Zerg and gear differences. So I hope this doesn’t make it to force wipe.

I’m so disappointed as a solo. The game is heading towards monotony.

Nice good job developers👏👏👏🫠

Now patch the ability to not be able to offline raid, and we’re set to go!

Likely some larger issues at play here. It sucks that we’ll likely have to give up a complex mechanic that rewards knowledge, but in the end I know they’re hard working people and intend for the best for their game. Hopefully removing an issue like this will be a net positive eventually by making the building system more comprehensible from a dev perspective.

does this apply to pixel gaps too, since you use the same technique to seperate the foundations from eachother to create the gap?

Does the roof version of bunker of doom still work? What you call the baby rock bunker

Good, they just need to come up with better building mechanics instead of all those cheesy bunkers.

ive been waiting for them to patch stackable floors and things like it, since they did it to stacking walls and made like 10+ bases i made obsolete..

what about pixel gap foundations?

I picked up a ladder and the 3 ladders nearby broke, a buddy put a window back in and a t2 broke, it takes about 234234324 attempts to get out of the water onto anything and they are working on THIS?!?!?!?!?!?! about 1% of the population even knows what this shit is.

Stop crying guys and learn 2 build new things

now what for solo players?

Make bases indestructible unless the owner is online or it’s decaying. No more offline raids allowed.

daym…

stability bunkers should be ok yes?!?! the offsets were cool and all but a pain to setup if not on a good terrain

“Welcome to Rust. Are you a solo or a duo player with a job? Don’t bother playing our game, it’s only for children and unemployed adults.” – This is unironically what I hear every time I read the patch notes. I love this game, but it’s so damn time intensive and they just keep making it more and more weighted towards “no life the game or don’t bother playing it.” Not everyone finds it fun to start again every. Single. Night.

imagine being helk and waking up and be like , I ONLY WANT 2 WALLS TO YOUR BASE. NOTHING ELSE NOTHING MORE. STUPID BUILDERS. THIS IS A GAME /S

So i guesse it’s time to wake up the Zerg instead of soloing. I mean, how else to play is we can’t play 2 days.

Patching bunkers just makes new players leave.. easier for chads

The “I don’t have 50 people to constantly keep my base stocked with online members” update, very cool

Lol, rust developers be like: let’s roll the wheel 🎡 of 1000001 bugs in the game to patch this time, fixing beloved mechanic 🥲

I just finally figured out this bunker too! :'( thanks for all the helpful videos!

Building is getting so fucking boring, when they changed the roofs a while back it killed so many sick looking bases

rip

Ураа! Наконец то убрали эти бункера! Можно вернуться в игру! Про турель не понял?

I’m somewhat happy they did. It was such an obtuse system to work with for base building

facepunch is actually smoking fucking crack with every single change since hdrp update

So the offset bidirectional bunker doesnt work anymore? The one from the cantrip

Why would they ruin the game ???

worst anticheat ever but they are focusing on nerfing turrets and bunkers. what a shit game. seems like they want to help the zergs and nerf solos.

пиздец… 😢

These patches make me wonder, when they will put limit onto external tcs and finally kill the game ?

@GameLightz do you know if roof stack bunkers are also broken on staging? I don’t think I’ve seen any on your channel and I don’t want to plug anyone else’s in your comment section but if for some reason you need an example of what I mean I can give the title of an example video.

didn’t they also patch freehanding bunkers. I tried to freehand place the square in front of a triple triangle foundation (middle missing) and it would go from placing normally a little ways away, to immediately clipping in place, with no inbetween.

NOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NOOOOOO

This will cause an explosion in bunker ingenuity. They won’t be as “clean” as the offsets but I’ve got like a dozen bunkers that don’t use offset in my repitoire. When you’ve got something like the god bunker in the game there’s no point in fiddling with confusing stability and conditional bunker mechanics.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 🙁

Dang… 😢

Oof that sucks I can still do them on console for now I guess

We can have endless cheaters but god forbid we make bunkers.

That’s why I was only using dropbox bunker for TC. I knew they will change this sooner or later so I didn’t want to get used to other bunkers.

I stopped playing after 5000h. The game is heading to be more pvp orientated and marketed to the very young audience.

Facepunch just doesn’t understand what’s good for the game.

i’d really love to know why they hate solos so much, this will probably make me quit

I don’t understand why Facepunch hates bunkers so much.

OMG, they fixed perfect offset bunkers for high iq people and left suicide bunkers for zero iq players?

Damn thats not cool dw bro you can still have some good base build videos who knows there might be another way to make a bunker

Pixel gaos still work but whwt about raised foundation bunkers?

There goes the best base designs.

Thanks, I’ll be watching your channel to see what you come up with after the patch.. I enjoyed the small solo bunkers.. bummer =(

Really dumb move if they do this – I’m done if it goes live

Cus why not incentivize offlining am I right?

NOOO the burrow was my go to base when i played solo… im going to miss it 🙁

I’m happy about this. I’ve got 22k hours and I’ve been playing since Legacy. All y’all some nub ass players crying about this shit. Bring back OG rust baby!!!!!! This is a step in the right direction! Now let’s get rid of skill tree and bring back old recoil!

I understand both sides of it tbf..
Bunkers stopped noobs from learning how to raid
Bunkers saved like 70% of bases from being gone in the morning

again rust choosing anything but what the community wants….

por eso prefiero no aprender a hacer bunkers o no hacer nada bunker, porque no esta pensado para eso y tarde o temprano lo arreglarán, prefiero un buen plugin de antiofflineraid y ya jeje

nuuuu the chad village T_T

On one hand, if this is intentional I can understand why, since bunkers are essentially an exploit of deep/probably unintentional building mechanics in order to gain an advantage, and as you said it’s easy to unintentionally brick some offset bunkers. But on the other hand, FP should really implement something like a vault door that offers sheet wall+ durability to seal your most valuable loot. They could make it slow to open/close, make it require power to operate, make it expensive to build and research, and/or make it thicker so it takes up more tile space, but the game isn’t hurt by making smaller bases more survivable in an offline raid. Jackhammers, teas and mixing stations have made farming up 20+ rockets trivial and most weekly wipe servers are already dead on day 3-4. Building is already long overdue for a buff so nerfing what little protection smaller bases have is a questionable decision.

Ultimately bunkers will always exist as long as drop boxes do, but that just makes them more annoying to use and means even in an online raid theres no chance they’ll be left open, which sucks for everyone.

They recently introduced a special helicopter specifically to make raiding every 1×2 in sight more fun for clans. Any questions?

alright that may be the final straw for me.. im tired of having to change the way i build every 2 months. the 12 turret nerf and ramp nerf really annoyed me, and now this? i think im more annoyed about the chainlink fences. i don’t understand the bias they have towards offline raiding.

L update

That’s why I only use kill bunkers – simple and super strong.

good

Hey man just a heads up, huge fan, getting online raided is all about how you interact with the server and what time you play, not what base you build or how expensive it is to raid

Yaayyy I barely like the game as it is lately, playing as a solo/duo. Can’t wait to finally get pissed enough to just quit!

I’m crying now. I don’t even play rust anymore, but if I were to, it would probably be the mini chad v2 or something I would build. The investment of time into the game at beginning is too much, and if you don’t do it, you are most likely going to start all over again, cause of being raided.

It is not even like most people are able to do this builds. I can’t be sleeping with headphones on to hear explosions… And that is also insane as a solo!

I hope it doesn’t go to forcewipe, or we get something else, hopefully cooler! 🙂

This is terrible news

they really punched the solo gameplay with that update

Yeah very silly of them to do this especially while offlining is the biggest reason nobody wants to play

I guess the only sure way to stay safe is to play on two computers and leave one player inside a suicide bunker with dropboxes.

Unpatchable, easy to build cheap to upkeep, and with a lot of storage.

Well i was excited to play this forced wipe lol not anymore.. do cave bunkers still work? The one with the roof that opens the wall

Do you think adding a new foundation shape would be a good idea?

YAAAAY, MORE OFFLINES🤣

A lot of people are going to quit because these changes if they go through. I do like the chainlink blocking turret idea tho, but they should increase the turret’s health as a compromise because the reason chainlink was used was to stop grubs from compound bowing the turrets out and stealing the guns.

DOES THIS EFFECT DISCONNECTABLE TC’S ANY AT ALL OF ANY SHAPE OR FORM???? O_o

I’ve spent a considerable amount of time recently designing bases with these bunkers built in, so of course it is being patched. Story of my virtual life.

Does this affect the old school pixel bunekrs?

Offlines yayyy !! Clans with 30+ are AGAIN with an advantage, jesus, MLRS, attack heli and then patching bunkers, ive heard enough.

Nooooo, the bunker of Doom, noooooo 😢

Game design should really be going in the direction of encouraging online raids, not more offline raids.

Hoping this changes before release. I’d really been enjoying the diversity of bunkers available to use. In many ways the past year has felt like a golden era for builders. I might hang my building hat and quit rust if this becomes a continuing trend.

Oof… Facepunch be sounding like Studio Wildcard at this point.. focusing their efforts on the wrong optimisations…

oh no… how would solo like me survive now… :../

I love that Facepunch has the goal to make Rust more newbie friendly with all the changes to the mechanics. And also make it impossible for solo players to survive 1 day into wipe. Legends..

Next patch is a map update where if you’re in a team with 6 or more people . Dots will appear on the map showing you where all single locks are……. 🤪

I understand why they want to clean up building so the offset method doesn’t work. But these served a really important role. Maybe they could make a type of wall/floor that was extra expensive (2k stone/frags maybe?) that can always be demoed if you have building priv? So you can make a bunker legitimately.

Super upsetting

Console players chilling rn

Every time the game updates and feel better about quitting this garbage game. Face punch really need to load into a server solo and a group and see what a pile of shit their game is. But nah keep pumping out those dlc’s.

so many of my bases are obsolete after this hope they revert it

if you dont get onlined it’s probably because u suck at the actual non building part of the game sorry to say it I get online every wipe on official vanilla

What bunkers do still work?

Do simple bunkers like stability triangle floor bunkers where a wooden half wall supports the triangle till you break it and the floor opens up?

i feel like if you guys are mad about facepunch getting rid of what’s essentially a building exploit you guys need to either get better at rust, get better at bulding normally, or stop getting so emotionally invested in your bases. there are so many things you can do that aren’t bunkers to keep your base safe after you log off and if you’re paralyzed with emotional anguish over the possibility that you’ll be offlined more after this change then maybe just stick to playing singleplayer ARK or something.

games get updated, get over it. facepunch doesn’t want the base metagame to become overrun with any more niche mechanics than it already is (pixelgaps, widegap shooting floors, funnel walls). this is a fix to the game’s progression curve and makes it so that you can’t make a 1×2 into a 16-rocket raid. if you guys can’t see the reasoning in that i genuinely can’t make it any simpler for you.

serious question: if you have a lot of loot you want to keep safe and a lot of time/mats to mess around around with getting your bunker to work, why not just expand your base like a normal person? there is literally nothing wrong with a honeycombed 2×2 and some shotgun or flame traps. stop trying to hop onto whatever flavor-of-the-month bandwagon is making it onto reddit and actually play the game.

vertical pixelgap FTW, i dont need anything else, just spam a few in your base and make sure to have externals ez (even if they have tc, the vertical pixelgap is a real unlootable)

You guys ready for the next update? You can only BP ak if you are in a team of 6 or more? Solos will only be aloud customs. Lol.

God bunker still works for me.

Facepunch apparently would rather patch out a fun mechanic than do something about P2W skins

lmao it’s like they don’t want anyone to play the game🤣

not em bunkers how am i gonna piss of the 20 man without making them waste insane amounts of boom now

Good. BUNKERS SUCK. INFINITE TURRETS SUCK. Facepunch just needs to sit down and balance the game. Depending on bugs is riddiculous. Turrets are riddiculous and shouldnt even exist.

I quit after the recoil update as the devs just make it more and more clear that they are trying to reduce skill requirements, increase luck / rng, and screw over small groups / solos with these changes…

I used 5 gamelightz offset bunkered externals attached to a trio heaven. I am not even slightly annoyed they are patching this. We have been offlined and onlined (we get onlined all the time because we are awful at the game and clans know it) at least 100 times, and never lost any substantive loot. Not once. And they know very well where the bunkers are. I don’t think patching the offset bunker will promote onlining or do anything for the game except make it fairer to raiders and I totally understand the change. Our base was a complete joke to raid. Now it’s just a 3 roof bunkered pun

first turrets, now this – makes it easy for me to get rid of my Rust-addiction

patched on console?

I understand that bunkers arent a part of the mechanics but as a solo I basically get raided everytime I go offline. They were really useful

They better not patch the pixel gap bunker.

that sucks really bad, why is facepunch punishing the many solos and small teams and damning them to be offline while adding things like clan tables and such to help clannies? This is truly nonsense and I wish they’d dedicate more work to things that the community agrees matters more. All pixel gaps bunkers now cease to exist. Great, how does that make facepunch more money?
“Just add another 20 dollar skin pack”
Edit: the skin pack is P2W as well

Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Probably not playing Rust again. Pretty much patches out every single base I run. Good bye small group rust.

Good. Bunkers are so dumb. Bunkeres arent a real thing and its just a glitch thats been allowed for far too long.

Bunkers mostly helped solos or smaller groups…why they would buff zergs is beyond me

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This was one of the Best thing about the building part of it…
Just bunkers in general is some of the most exciting part about building in rust. +90% of the people Offline you now days which means they taken out your often Only way to come back to Some resources the next day..
Just as you said “who wanna play rust the next day,right”? ..a lot of ppl Do leave the server/wipe(even)if they come back to a full clear out the next day after entire wipe day grinding hard to gain things and because it was an Offline,ppl just leave(quite a lot of them.not me thought lol) but still.. *WHY fixing something that doesnt need to get fixed when there are dozens of other things to fix?* Come On Gary,1st time you made me upset my guy:(

Very good Facepunch thank you

yah, the game is getting worse every update, good luck for those who look fowards to playing this in 2024.

As someone who can’t be assed building bunkers i like this update. Ya gunna get offlined anyway..

Wait if the triangle/square foundation offsets are fixed does that mean that most widegaps that space two half circles out are also done?

Massive L

Does anyone know if this affects console?

there reasoning for not liking bunkers is foolish, the fact that people seek out the information on how to build better bases and other hidden knowledge is what helps build a community, and it has to happen organically with unintended mechanics like bunkers and other things, but it wont matter they will just Ruin their own game like every other developer does because of ego that they know best, then a few years from now they will try to fix it but trying force “hidden tips and tricks” and it will fail horribly.

Booooooo

What rust needs is Conan stlye off line raid protection. When everyone on the TC logs out, the base can no longer take damage unless it was damaged prior to you logging off, say like 30 minutes. Then it can still be damaged for like an hour… You solve raid logging and off line this way.

Will completely quit this game if they remove bunkers. Offlining is the absolute most bullshit way to play rust and it shouldn’t even exist. Without bunkers there is no reason to play at all as you’ll be offlined every single night.

Rust shitting on solos once again. Literally just came back from a 4 month long break from rust because I got tired of their bs and now they go and do this.

Good change, I like my stability and tricksy bases but they’re so annoying to build everytime. Having a solid reason not to use them is going to be very refreshing.

I hate Facepunch

Zergs and offliners win again…

Still look on the bright side, Rooted the new survival game is due to release in 2024 🙂

Welp, I’m definitely not getting back into the game now.

They need to find a way to incentivise people to roam more rather than raid like this patch is doing. In my opinion, raiding should be a revenge thing instead of the current meta where people just raid to raid and usually end up killing the server within 2 days. Stronger bases (bunkers) are the only thing keeping the solo pop around.

Facepunch has been somewhat out of touch with their player base for a moment. Development decisions that incentivize players NOT to be creative in unintended ways is bland and stifles fun, especially when the “bugfix” causes balance issues. I like youtubers like yourself and Dirtrider because you guys remember that the whole point of videogames is to have fun while also being creative and stimulating. As if I didn’t need any more reasons not to play rust.

Good to know this is where theyre attention is focused whilst the game is in shambles

What I’d like to see is a building revamp and have new options for building (new wall types/placement etc), with an option to actually bunker your base at a cost.
I’ve played 6.5k hours and this is one of the worst updates of the year.

Double chain link is gone??

lol why even learn to build more than a 2×1 with way they are removing things people like

One bunker they wont patch is the suicide bunker

put more doors instead of gay bunkers

When does the patch came out?

Boooooo!

The Burrow was my go to base….

If it makes them connect, doesn’t it break some pixelgap methods?

Firstly GL, you’re the man, you could literally make videos of you just F’ing around in Rust while talking BS and I’d gladly watch it.
Now that that’s out of the proverbial or literally or hypothetical way….that sucks 🙄

Rip my bases. At least i got to defend an online with this bunker, externals, inner and freehand outer peeks, and, of course, invisible roof-covering turrets. I think it was the last one that encouraged the raiders 😊

F
Facepunch pls don’t fix pixel bunker

stop building these bases for the love of god you werent going to wake up to a base anyways if your entire base was 10k sulfur to raid. doesnt matter if you dont have loot you’re going to get popped for living in a stone 2×1 doesnt matter what form of it you try to build. if you cant get a bigger base down on day 1 go to a server with boosted rates that will allow you to

No god no

Damn, back to suicide bunkers again I guess 😑

they should fix multi tc as well.

They need to do pixel gaps now

Uhhh ohhhhh

Well shit

Are there any stability bunkers that still work? I have only seen offset bunkers, I don’t know which ones I can still use.

DAMN

freehand roof bunker externals it is 😛

I think a lot more needs patched as far as bunkers and stuff too. Its always been annoying that the game even lets people play the stability game. It was never intended in base building anyways.

but the pixel gap bunkers still work right?

Ugh. Facepunch really just going out of their way to buff offliners again and again.

Facepunch just needs to add a 1k hp ladder hatch and with the armor doors buffed awhile ago its about the same raid cost anyways

This was my fav bunker meta 😢

good

I really loved offset bunkers im so sad theyre going away…offset bunkers made some of the most creative and fun base designs 🙁

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Glad i never learned to do these super well

next update will lower the anti-cheat security, sounds on point

Well this doesn’t patch the floor stacked version. Which is why I thought it would never be patched but oh well the games shit nowadays anyway and not worth playing.

RIP indeed. Thank you kind sir for the heads up!

The timing sucks considering the christmas holiday population surge is on the way…I guess all you can do is roll with the punches and adapt.

well good thing we still have the tc method

Yet another way to screw over solos and small groups.

Is this only for pc?

FFks sake face punch. Turrets cant shoot through chain any more? What about cell walls? protecting turrets is a ma
jor part of base building. Guess they getting their way finally about turrets only used inside.

Awesome, they do this but cheaters run rampant. Gotta love this game.

Just spent about 10 hours learning a few building with this kind of bunker. Sucks

Cheaters ruining the game but hey, let’s fix bunkers. Maybe there’ll be a bunker DLC in the future :shrug:

I am glad

Trio heaven and minideathknell are patched too?!

Cue the ‘REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! The game is ruined forever!’ crowd in the comments…..

It’s a bit sus that this affects only solo/duo players. All new updates make zergs life easier and solo life worse, so sad. A lot of people are gonna have bad time playing rust becouse of this, good job facepunch.💀💀💀🫡🫡🫡

I quit rust for the past couple months because the turret limit update just incentivizes MORE offlines, which is one of the TOP TWO reasons people hate this game (the other being hackers). The only reason I started playing again this month is because I found a server with no turret limit.

Now this? Seriously, if you’re reading this and you personally know Alistair McFarlane, please tell him that I, Angry Alfonse, hate him, and I hope that his next 17 bowel movements are as uncomfortable as possible.

I was just offlined this morning, again, at 5am. Seriously. At this point Rust is only enjoyable for unemployed basement dwellers with no friends. Nobody with a job and life can dedicate enough hours to this game to offset the fact that you lose your base almost every single night.

sadge now its just gonna be 2×1 snowball instead of 2 days in a row

What an annoying change, guess I won’t be sending any solo wipes anytime soon.

at this point they want us to keep the tc behind a door

this is the first time i’ve been genuinely upset with an update. what a stupid thing to patch when there are 500 other things that need attention.

😐

Goddamit. Have been using the mini Chad shed v2 for a year and had been offlined successfully 0 times. Now it’s over(

“But hey, who wants to play rust two days in a row” – this is hilarious

Are floor-pixelgaps still working?