What is your current opinion of the state of Season 8 & what do you think need to improve?
Written Feedback: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bN8C_Fe9nrWv__jUc_Vdbl220g4NM0mlux-ga_s_-5s/edit?gid=1566828904#gid=1566828904

Timestamps
00:00 New Bosses & Changes to Bosses
02:25 Boss Powers & Season Theme
08:57 Barb Feedback

I love how Rob goes so hard every season and every PTR to save my time confirming that I still won’t enjoy the next season of D4.

It would be nice if we could use the Mythic Polearm Shattered Vow with a bleed build to stack our DOT Bleed damage and then execute them with the passive skill of the mythic item. Gores and other things of course would be needed but this could fix the single target damage WW problem and bring back SPIN TO WIN!

I think we need to be able to test the ptr after adjustments have been made. Rather than just crossing our fingers when it’s released.

ya im done with blizzard 100% every game D4 was fun for little i uninstalled done with it all

how would it look if they let us level up items? that way if you find a legendary at low levels. you can keep it with you? thoughts?

GGG messed up PoE2’s latest season, but it took them like 1 week to fix the damage.
Blizzard has been hearing customer feedback for 2 years and ignored 99% of it.
For Season 8, they’ve had a couple of weeks since end of the PTR, but it’s almost certain they took 0% feedback into account.

Why boss cooldown? I don’t understand, waiting is not fun is right. Loot table should remove all obsolete items . They increase XP for boss kills.

A Diablo 4 bad season ????? Whats the news then ?

You are right. First season I will miss.
Listen I am clicking the whole day in databases. I don’t want a game where I constantly need to click all buttons just to keep buffs up and do damage. 2nd Barb core are crap. That’s all what I wanna do. Grab my hammer … bamm. I don’t need any other stuff like whirlwinds. Man… i am a Barb, let me smash.
Wake me up when they get it right.

When will we talk about Diablo 5?

Diablo 4 is only fun for a couple days for me season start. About to go back to d2r

Crazy how after years and years of suggestions and whishes from players, blizzard lets them still down waiting and suggesting lol. Still no leaderboard, new content, fun stuff or interaction with the community. I cant hear what people wish for this game anymore, since you will still hear them wishing for the same stuff in years. They didnt realize yet, that blizzard is not interested in the players, but only in their money. Drop this kindergarden game, you can do it!

Curve problem
D4: harder content less loot
Poe2: harder content more loot
Shows you the players they aim at

Blizzard feeding the dogs again
S8 has no new content/concepts, its the same old shit with slowed down progression.
While Poe2 adds already new content.
D4 is a ridicilous kindergarden game, which blizzard uses to max-milk the players.

I like to see torment level increased, just like in Diablo 3. Till torment X in first phase and later on higher torment levels.

Not excited. I am more casual than HC. I want to get to end game fast. Build a better loot filter and complaints from last season go away.

Diablo 4 bosses are garbage , current lilith in t4 spit out 1000 projectiles that follow you and if one touches you , you die instantly wven with shields max res max armor lots of life one shot doesnt make it harder just annoying they need to add mechanics that actually require skill not that garbage worst 70 bucks i spent in my life

When you have a dev team that is subpar at best you can expect D4 to continue to disappoint. Just about every core system is pedestrian. Closing in on two years and still no real end game or leaderboards. There is simply no excuse for the state of this game.

D4 was bad since it came. This shills giving them “last opportunity to be good” another time. Clowns.

nad nerfs across the board…… still no pit leaderboard…… still no real; end game…….. at once point can we admit the devs dont care what players want

Gonna skip S8

Ya I’m Sry Rob, I get that most all Characters have some issues and things that need attention, but barb is probably last on my List if I’m being honest. I got 26 characters and Barb is probably the Only 1 I’ve ever played that was Basically broken no matter wat I did and it seems like it usually has some Crazy OP stuff! I want to see them balance other classes out and make Multiple style of builds for Sorc&Rogue and even Spiritborn more attuned and Powerful runner ups. This whole thing where like the top 2 Metas classes running the show gets pretty Old. I want to see Shit more like S3&4 type of Tuning where some builds didn’t work the Best but could Still do Big numbers if u Invested Enough into them and could still manage most Content by itself! Having to Hire a Meta user for getting glyphs to 100 just hurts the game so Badly. I honestly think they lost tons and Tons of players because of Trash like that!!

D4 team has no idea what they are doing. It’s just rinse and repeat. BORING!!! Have no interest in D4 anymore. Get a clue from POE2

Wait wait wait, none of us dirty casuals are getting to paragon 300 LOL

I personally liked the old gauntlet much better than the citadel and wish they would bring that back…and from the looks of things I’ll probably play s8 way less than I play s7 which is maybe a few hours a week

I think your expectations are very reasonable. Blizzard should hire you as a D4 consultant!

So you have the ear of these guys at least more than the rest of us. Ideas to make the game better. Make users have a questline to get, make it long but guaranteed to drop. Like step 1 kill 600 vampires. Step 2 kill varshaan twice without dying. Step 3 collect 300 of this material , make it like 30 steps, I would rather do that instead of fighting the same guy 400 times. Flair, give us some glowing auras for accomplishment. Not some little shield on my mount. For the love of god quit making everything so hard to match the 5% try hards builds, let them be broken, they will get bored after awhile, if you stop worrying about the broken builds we could theory craft so many more builds that would be fun and able to compete in end game. But if only the 1 to 2 versions of a class can do anything why would we even try? Perfect example, spirit born, so many versions because they all worked, some better than others but every one could be made viable, do that with all classes. Add some real endgame content. More quests with actual rewards viable with builds. And stop charging 20bucks for a skin, make it 5 bucks and I’d probably buy 4 and you’d still get the 20 on the end. Greedy. Carry rewards for pits and bosses etc. Useful ones. Guild rewards for guild accomplishment by tier, weekly. And not sure if i already mentioned it but on masterwork stop showing lower or the same rolls and make a cap algorithm so within at keast 50 rolls each max roll will show at least once or donethingbif tge sort.So much potential if they would lend an ear to the community for real, for once. Alot more I could go on about but I’m done typing/ranting.

season 7 new seasonal skill
season 8 new seasonal skill
season 9 new seasonal skill
keep adding new sesonal boring skill but dont add any nonseasonal change very boring beacause next season they delete last seasonal Theme

Its not for our clan Rob, we all are moving over to POE2. Looking forward to all your info on POE2.

D4DEAD

Diablo is dead for me honestly. PoE2 is the new goat in town.

Blizz = greedy
No content
D4 bad

wait, they just imported Belial from D3?!?!?!?!?!?!? I AM DONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it seems it will be even more impossible to normal players to reach max paragon level

Blizzard’s default fallback = wasting our time

Diablo is such a fun game when u first get into it, then u get to endgame n its stale, they dont add anything with real substance, they add some new goblins or some new items but if ur endgame build is top tier then its useless to u, its like they dont even play their own game, they need endgame content & more areas to do quests, im playing Neverwinter n that game never ends, Diablo should take notes

We should the option to mark boss items for sale or for salvage. That way. You don’t have to TP back to town to either sell / salvage.

I just want to be able to choose my tempers. The fact that I can work my ass off to get any item and then lose it bc of RNG is stupid. Either make it like master working to where you can spend your resources to reset the tempers or just let me choose. RNG being able to ruin an entire item just shouldn’t be in the game.

Ive never been one to be like “this game is dead” but come on its literally the same thing EVERY season with very minor tweaks and a name change for the same implementation.

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Seems like every season diablo is bad so maybe it’s just never going to be the game we all dreamed of. They had so many chances

i start thinking they cant do big changes, beacause its D3 core with new graphics… i dont see reason why play S8 :{

I really want this game to be fun but I just can’t get myself to play it since S7. I blame POE tbh

Last 90 days sullygnome numbers since maining D4 again lmao ggs

Welcome to my world with WW… it was about time.

Recurring problems ate the worst part of the game. We are about to spend 10 min fighting a pit guardian again… and no changes to the master crafting system is huge no go for me.

The d4 team mindset is purposely make each and every build overpowered and then just to switch and rinse every season so that way people can come back and play new builds but essentially doing the same boring stuff. But s8 made it worst by prolonging the leveling and lessen the legendary drops. This is NOT the way especially d4’s item is boring and not fun. D2 can do it because their itemization was and is top notch.

I agree that leveling means nothing for the end game. However, leveling needs to take longer to feel the progression, it’s not blasting to the end then being bored at end game. Leveling should also be fun and give you that dopamine hit by getting stronger

Diablo is aiming for a race ,
And the bubble of solo players will hate this , which includes all streamers
The moment me and all the hundreds of players that used to play D3 that are no longer playing D4 in my friends list , see Someone hit Pit 150 we all stop playing . immediately
So stop presuming you are all players

ARPG with a wait time auto become garbage skipping this season, i don’t want to play a RPG mobile game

we need one big button in UI – “Leave Season”

I love this game and making fun builds. It is burning me out that my gameplay loop always ends at playing the few meta builds and grinding the pit until I get bored. Blizzard please improve this.

Lol season 8 bad? D4 bad, stop saying make or brake every season, games broke

the game fucking sucks. Go try Last Epoch rob, watching you play POE2 was much more enjoyable also

@Rob2628 I think this season will be hard compare to last one but definitely it will be not enjoyable as other seasons… you know season lasts like a 3 months and players complete endgame in few days and then they wait for new season and then this comes!!! they focusing on challenge and loot but players want something new.. something we will enjoy for every day of the season not just for couple days..

Da Loo Taybool

People have us like this every season giving us grains of pleasure, they do not want to think and please us fully as it was with the release of the add-on, but we paid for it. We need to show the developers and the company that we will not accept these stretched timings of pumping, these spokes in the wheels, we want a buzz at the end of the game, I love the game but after two weeks of pure time I feel like I don’t want to go in anymore, so we need to collectively skip season 8 and not play this. I understand it will be hard, play something else… this is the only way we can show the team that we will not tolerate this and let them start using their brains.

They need to bring back glyph leveling in the Nightmare Dungeons, ever since they started forcing you to level glyphs in the PIT, I’ve never been a fan of that. The PIT should be about testing your build, but with milestone rewards depending on how far you can go. They also need to bring back being able to use up to 8 paragon boards to help enhance base powers versus relying on Seasonal powers to be strong. Just some thoughts of many.

Got to say I admire your optimism, making these videos, trying to keep the game alive and make season 8 relatable. But let’s be frank, Season 8 with it’s higher difficulty, recycled content, nothing new to do… its just meh. Season 8 will see the lowest gameplay/user engagement rate D4 has ever seen since it’s release, it will probably take on the name as ”Season of the boycott”. Season 7 went on such a high, you could experiment with the aromoury and good gear… It was fun and then bam… Season 8 all comes crashing down to boring stuff… There’s not one new thing that’s exciting about the season and they’re make it slower. Definitely giving this season a pass. Besides it’s summer soon, time to put the Xbox and D4 away for a few months. Not even feeling Fomo, because I know every season, they’re going to add or break stuff to make the game worse. Maybe I’ll come back when they decide to make glyph levelling fun, or solo DC, also why not a theme around nightmare dungeons. There’s so much real-estate in the game and the best they could do was rework boss lairs? and torment difficulties. And pit pushing… Meh I can’t face that stale pit repetitive gameplay style.

I feel less gimmick damage more class damage… make builds with more diverse skills, even if it’s a more button spamming event

Sittin this one out . I have a feeling that there will be many more doing the same. Time will tell.

I don’t think they will make any meaningful changes until people stop playing, and from what I see this may be the season that happens. I love the game but have been disappointed at seeing the same stuff being relabeled season after season. I don’t mind them slowing things down but I’m getting bored without any new content

It’s just the same season mechanics as always, just now under a different name with different graphic effects. And the Season Journey is getting incredibly boring again. A few items, and then a spark at the end. Yawn. Same with the Season Pass. Why not something creative? For example, a Season Unique, which is only available after completing the Season Journey or Season Pass? And in between, new, season-appropriate legendaries?

Dident play season7 wont play season8 i gave up on the game right after expansion, when it became a one classes one build game still lackning an endgame and something to do after 3-4 days

s8 is so dead on arrival, considering LE and POE2 have releases coming, blizzard is probably thinking “why put effort at all into d4 right now”

When does s8 drop?

I’m not looking forward to this next season whatsoever. More dog crap. Just another reskin of the previous season. Its so pathetic. Blizzard is dead and so are my dreams of this ever being a fun game.

diablo 4 has always been shit. they keep adding more shit on the screen and all it does is make me not give a fuck even more

What a mess!😂

When are we ever gonna have a WALKING ARSENAL – IRON MAELSTORM BUILD? Sad times.

No more Boss Power, Witch Power; Skill tree + Paragon Board + Aspect will be good enough and promote build diversity; and more rewarding and meaningful in harder contents.

I think their biggest mistake was the pre season1 nerf that made the game way easier. Now we are reversing that and making stuff harder. Diablo lacks the depth of games like path of exile2 but it is a good ice breaker to those looking to get into the arpg genre. You get rewarded for falling asleep at an event in d4, doesn’t ever happen in poe2… one holds your hand the whole way, the other never holds it. Diablo is at the point where they are only going to have POE2 and Last Epoch’s “leftovers” playing their game.

Loot filters? Some of do play on console…

If season 8 of Diablo 4 is horrible I am done with Diablo

please tell blizzard seriously i dont want to run the checkpoint and stronghold again for every new season start.

Season of uninstall

Serious question here… If we can’t do a lvl 150 pit anymore, are any skills or boss powers too strong?

it’s D4 Bad.. the game, is bad…

Ever since Collen has joined the dev team the games direction is getting worse and worse.

Nothing about Season 8 is appealing.
Their “meaningful seasonal theme” is a low effort copy of earlier seasons.
They made everything slower and harder which also makes the powers scaling with Para bad.
At this point I’m thinking SKIP.

Maybe I missed it, have they given us a release date for Season 8?

Of course most of your power comes from the boss powers. Blizzards MO is to make the season theme powerful, ie spiritborn last fall

they should just simplify everything. Remove billions and make them thousands. Make elemental into physical/melee for barbs. Remove multipliers and make everything additive. Make D4 less like D3 and make it more horror like.

Slowing XP adding HP.
Voila season done.

Step up your game Blizz.

In game item market/auction house.
Unlock all for trade.
Leaderboards.
Improve boss mechanics its not qbout raising HP bar…
More types of enemies.

Title of video should probably read “current state of BARB and S8 PTR feedback”. Not mad, js.

“Those who dislike goods are the ones who buy them.”
Bob is really the one that cares about the Diablo 4.

Best thing to do in D4 Season 8: skip it and just play PoE2 Dawn of The Hunt, LE Tombs of the Erased and No Rest for the Wicked The Breach! Easy!!!

It is just simple incompetence to do this. Instead of FIXING the skills that cannot get to T4, they put a speed bump to slow the meta. I am tired of just playing barb because it works. Same story different day – A SEASONAL THEME IS NOT THE FIXES AND CHANGES YOU WANT. It should be a complimentary theme to add to a balanced system FOR FUN.

this will be a very bad one for D4. the VoH hype is completly gone. ppl just see powers again and are bored. even a lot of hardcore D4 fans say they will skip the season. furthermore there is POE2 and LE with big updates in april

Andariel bossfight seems very strange now,. almost impossible to survive it.
Mythic uniqes are no longer the most rare items in the game. Good affixs rolled brown necks are. If you cant get a good neck, or gloves, then you aint doing any real damage.

Burns enemies for 12 600 weapon dmg… Yeaa… Kinda not interested in playing this math sim. If you need 30 pages of changes every season it means – they really dont know what are they doing. Sad. But still hoping for better future where items would do 12% more dmg instead of 12.600%.

D4 needs an austionhouse imo.. my stash is full every season and trading is annoying at the moment

Bro no one one shots the boos😂 just you youtubers with op gear and stuff

I made 261 paragon last season befoee i shelved the game. Boring as hell to run pit non stop for levels that unlock nothing i need. Shoukdnt have to run pit 6k times (literal) to get para 300. Ive said since s3, the devs dont play the game. Theyre fucking lost, and trying to turn this shit into d3 is fucking dumb, id like to see blizzard fire the entire team

The executive decisions on the direction of this game is abysmal. They have no idea wtf they’re doing and I’m glad to uninstall this game.

The timer is to give other members of the party time to click chest and turn in parts to get rewards. Since when you start a new boss the chest goes away.

die sollten erstmal die 2 slots extra beim barbar auf den anderen klassen anpassen. gebt den castern 2ohringe, dem assa n wurfdolch oder sowas. dies würde buildvielfalt erweitern, die wird blockiert duch die überuniq teile.
bin gut equiptet diese season aber fühlt sich low an. müsste viel mehr pfeffer haben geht aber ni da item geblockt.
diese 4sterne teile suche wird auch blödsinnig. dies sollte auf stufe 4 beim baum aktiv werden. da sollten nur noch minimum 2 sterne teile dropen.
warum checkt das game überhaupt ni was man nutzt und forciert da diesen zusätzlichen sterne drop?
man fühlt sich eher negativ wenn mal so ein teil dropt und 99,9% das falsche dropt bzw der bonus stat so low is das man nur denkt äh nej.
früher hat man noch stats gelesen inzwischen drückt man nur noch schrottet all und checkt die 2 sterne teile im equip also brauch man diese ohne sterne teile garnicht mehr.
wo ist der sinn im endgame grind ?seh ich nicht. entwicklung zum stärkerem scheint garnicht vorgesehen.
die season kräfte lvln ist ok.
paragonboard auf 5 begrenzt is zuwenig.

Hey, do you want to farm this boss for the only best in slot unique item?

Yes.

Should we add 1 minute of downtime by adding a chest to open and a timer?

Yes.

Should we invalidate the build you needed that unique for by making the boss seasonal power 20x stronger than your skills?

Yes.

That checks out.

Loot doesn’t drop, salvage does. Getting anything useful on Torment is an exercise in sorting through piles of crap.

DEAD D.O.A. I Played a poison spiritborn build today beginning was ok, yeah it’s dead.

Will be skipping S8. Nothing about the new season powers are attractive, just a recycle of the past season and a slight change to tormented bosses. Honestly I’m dissatisfied with how blizzard is handling this game, there is no balance whats so ever and it’s just a constant nerf and buff in rotation. VOH expansion was a let down honestly. I was hoping for more of a campaign and story line scenario and that didn’t happen. At this point in the game (2 years) we should have more classes to choose from and more of a story line to go with it.

Fuck this shit game, but keep creating content.

Zero interest in it.

I used to love this game…
It’s just garbage now.

I literally thought you were playing diablo 3 for the forst 30 seconds.

This is quite interesting as there are different conclusions between you and wudi for example.

“When scaling paragon 300 the boss power dmg is ridiculous” well… I don’t think alot of ppl will bother to get to 300….

Well i hope minion necro is decent for everything cause thats the only class/build i play. Just need ring of mendeln to actually work from the start of the season. Also wish we could just go back to lvl 100 the solid bar looked so much cleaner rather then the blue bar…

Season 8 a season for the pro gamers not casual players !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D4 will be a afterthought with Poe 2 new patch and last epoch. They are bringing the heat!

another season i might skip holy shit, d4 is getting worse every season now. Might thinking of playing Last Epoch and POE2 just for fun a bit. If Blizzard will not change i think i ll also skip season8 who cares

I think players are conflating pinnacle bosses (think Lilith) with boss ladder bosses (think all the other end games bosses).

-Pinnacle like Lilith are aspirational, likely not having normal loot tables and are generally different from most content in game (Dex gameplay meaning indexing on things like dodging one shots etc)
-Boss ladder bosses have some Dex gameplay but generally are indexing more on power checks and contain loot tables that contain loot like uniques, ancestrals, etc.

There is no other boss like Lilith in game currently and generally the playerbase isn’t very interested in bosses like her.

I wish Diablo can just copy POE 1’s homework. So many interesting things could be tested, but seems they are going for conservative ways to add small things each season. There should be a boss that takes extra damage for specific skills just for me to use armour to build a different set.

For me, no way if they don’t fix the tempering system, lose an object after 2 attempt is ridiculous.

Slowing down a game doesn’t make it now fun. Making me play longer doesn’t make me want to play more. I’m not a content creator, i don’t need to play this game. I’ll play something else. These developers are really dropping the ball.

Blizzard devs got it all wrong again. Nobody wants to grind, grind and grind all day, al night withour getting any rewards. We the majority of players want it to be fun and not all about grinding. It is already hard as it is now, mythics are SO RARE! We do not have much time to play, all day.. We play on weekends bcz we have other important things to do. THIS GAME IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER IN FRUSTRATING ITS WEEKEND ONLY PLAYERS– SOON NOBODY IS GOING TO PLAY THIS GAME ANYMORE. I DO NOT KNOW WHOEVER GAVE THE DEVS THE IDEA THAT WE WANT TO GRIND ALL DAY. i REMEMBER THERE WAS ONE DEV SAYING THAT PLAYERS LIKE DII WHERE WE GRIND ALL DAY——- WELL YOU ARE WRONG! WE DO NOT WANT TO GRIND ALL DAY! ASIDE FROM THIS, MAKE YOUR ITEM SHOP AND WARDROBE CUSTOMIZATION MORE. ITS SO LIMITED AND WE AS PLAYERS DO NOT HAVE FUN MAKING OUR OWN COLORS FOR OUR MOUNTS, ARMOUR, ETC. CREATE MORE OPTIONS, MORE MOUNTS ON TIGERS, CREATE MORE OPTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN RIDE (EX: GIANT SCORPIONS, DRAGONS, WOLVES, ETC). MAKE IT MORE CUSTOMIZABLE. CREATE NEW ARMOUR SETS FOR ALL CLASSES.

I’d like to see them change tempers- you should be able to pick the ones you want – you found the recipe-

Just make the 25% masterwork random

Whatever you say, chief. The game is made for you anyway. Knock yourself out!

blizzard will completely ignore the feedbacks as always

It’s a skip for me lol.

atleast give us back legendary rune droprate from season 6 back. getting a mythic is going to be absolutely impossible

Most likely skipping this season. Season 7 was so fun because I got to play every class and multiple specs. I work too many hours for season 8 to be like this.

Doesn’t look like I’m missing much, lol. Although I wish this wasn’t true.

Rob coming out swinging. Skipping last season, had hopes this season would be fun coming back. But it’s the same builds. I dont know. Guess what see what launches.

Haven’t played D4 since POE2 dropped, lol. GGG is about to drop a new patch in April and add a new class🎉

They need offer you contract for work there,becose they need somobody WHO really playing this game And Have some knowledges.

Nothing needs to slow down in the game. They just have to implement something that’s not just killing mobs and collecting points. Actually have a different mechanics so the players are engaged longer. Each season so far have just been reskin variations of previous seasons. It’s honestly just boring at the point.

Again they think slowing players down equals having more retention

If they make the game for the top 10%, then Let that 10% play it. I Will stop playing S8 untill they go back to making the game for their core players

i mean season 7 was a big snooze fest because how easy it was, at least season 8 is gonna be somehwhat harder they said on the campfire.

I really dislike borrowed power like this where you damage doesnt even comes from your class. Insta skip…

D4 BAD

Poe2 nó ẻ lên đầu

The devs are complete morons!! They don’t play the game! Hence the PTR! They suck!!

sorry but one shot boss at paragon 300 with all glyphs up and almost every GA you need and fully masterworked is totally okay imo…because in the absolute endgame where you just want extra star on item…you definitely don’t want to kill this boss for 3 minutes and you would nerf dmg…how would you do in pit where you can not do 100 and can not upgrade glyphs ? world tiers does not scale with pits and they should like making world for 20% easier then your max pit…then you don’t need any other millions of difficulties…rare items should have 3 affixes with chance to be one higher (even higher to be GA)…then you would have reason to collect them…magic could have 3 and possibility of 4 slots which could be used also for real runewords…nice right ? why the hell we are changing number here number there each season…you have good build and then next season it’s total trash…now builds suck and you kill with boss powers…wtf…balance builds and just add new each season and don’t touch the working ones….most of the players play 1-2 classes each season so it might take a year before you play the same…you can have 10 new builds by that time and you return to those that worked before…then you will have time to focus on endgame…the thing about this season is actually that you grind boss and you always did this for mythics…but more then half of them is useless trash…make finally some impactful items…gimme item that will summon instead wolves bears…meteor will change to falling stars…lightning nova hydras…fire skills now transmog to cold skills…anything…

I come back and listen to feedback to see if Bliz has learned anything and realized it’s just the same thing over and over. Spent a lot of time the first year with this game, but don’t see myself ever coming back.

Rob 98% of the Nerfs happen because they watch your channel, you got thorns barb nerfed!! 😢😢

Slow the leveling down or speed it up, make it harder or not—it doesn’t matter. You shouldn’t be one-shotting bosses in T4. Less loot is stupid.

This is probably my first season im not playing d4. Im so disappointed about s8 there is nothing new to do. No new gear or builds, game is slower. And tired of doing pits and ubers. I love Diablo but this is just sad, that they are not doing anything new. They skip midseason and give us like nothing in a new season? Just samr things but different names.

I completely agree with you, very good analysis.

Sounds like the perfect time to take a break and play some other games. I didn’t even finish the season journey in S7. I just gave up. Tired of farming The Pit for glyph XP. It’s sooooo boring. I really want them to add glyph XP back to dungeons, then if I want a more varied experience, I can have that option.

Why do you think that the campaign giving a lot of XP and finally being a viable option is a bad thing?
Also, why do you always advocate for ‘faster leveling’? Honestly, screw that. There is almost nothing to do in the game anyways, why should we go from 1 to 60 in 2 hours?
That’s just stupid. I’m glad that they’re pulling the brakes and are slowing the game down again, that’s a MUCH needed change.
I hate how streamers and ‘influencers’ always advocate for everything to become faster and easier, the game has completely lost it’s identity due to streamers who DEMAND changes, even though they have no clue about game-design.

I absolutely dont understand why leveling has to be slower…. the endgame being harder is fine. but leveling being slower is just dumb, in before they sell a levelboost in the shop on season start and thats why the leveling is slower 😛

The only thing I don’t understand about D4: Why are they modifying the pit when they don’t want people to be able to do pit 150? They’re modifying end game content they actively don’t want people to engage in without really adding any new in game content. New bosses are good but they’re all still just one-shot farms

S8 seems pretty bad unfortunately. I’ll finish my season joinery and done probably. It seems it’s taking them a lot of time to do all the boss changes.

If change the difficulty, why not change drops too? T1 up to 1 GA, T2 up to 2 GA, T3, 3 GA, and T4 up to 4 GA. And get rid of all the multipliers. It’s just so many.

Now the game has two useless item tiers, blue and yellow, so it’s just two item tiers, no GA and GA.

Здорово Рыжий, все хорошо, но для 8 сезона сделай все красиво

I don’t know if I’m in the minority here with this idea but I think there could be improvements in masterworking. It would be great if there could be checkpoints after every 4 masterworks. It seems nearly impossible and too costly to get triple masterworks on a stat you really want and it feels very bad when you get 8/12 and then for the 12/12 masterwork, you upgrade a useless stat. Either that, or making it cheaper to masterwork could be nice. Also, I really hope they can look into improving mythic uniques. The only thing we really want now are shakos, shroud, starless, and heir of perdition. Any mythic unique you get as a drop should be a feel good moment and not a “oh, it’s at least a spark” moment. I love this game, and played it since pre-season 1. Please, help us out! ❤

Yes – 100% agree with your take on D2 leveling items making it to end game. You could Up or Double Up items via cube, or get Stone of Jordan from NM act 1.

This has been my biggest complaint about d4 for the last 2 seasons. When I play barb I want to play whirlwind. But that has never really been a good thing to do its either whirlwind is shit and dont play it or its busted but only because its making something else do insane damage. I just want a big whirlwind that go fast and go bonk hard. Simple barb things you know?

Been waiting weeks for Rob to actually give devs REAL feedback. They probably won’t fix anything and it’ll just go live like this. What a mess lmao. I’m 100% skipping this season. It looks so terrible.

They effed up when they decided to make D4.. (ok, Diablo Immoral first bad move) and all these month are about trying to ‘save’ the game.. I’m pissed.

I really had HIGH HOPES since Diablo(TM) is my loved Franchise.. sigh..

Deckard Cain is crying in Heaven..

2 years later since launch and they still cannot figure it out

Game is getting worse lol

As I wrote on Rhikker’s new Saturday video:

– Citadel Solo (everything should be soloable, love your suggestion!)

Will D4 last until Paladin comes to “save” the game? I’m so afraid they’ll scrap the class..

Incredible that the awesome Franchise goes downhill.. so sad after all these years.. *Started with Diablo Immoral..

They should work right now on D5: Pissed off Diablo’s finally back!

He go rid of Wokeness, DEI, Battle Pass, outrageously overpriced cosmetics, Game only made by ‘merits staff’ and you can kill him for real! Whew! See you in 2030!

It’s very disappointing TBH.

I’ll still play, holding on some God’s Hope they’ll wake up and do something..

im like you friend, i feel bad for barbs and also they have no good AOE skill at all …like you cant even do horde or anything similar -_-

15:05 when you use the key passive walking arsenal with steel grasp, I believe it shows that you activate the 2H mace weapon slot. So I assume steel grasp uses the 2H Mace in all other cases but that doesn’t seem right.

Game would feel better if we had 7 seasons of persistent content they made. Instead we have 7 seasons of borrowed power and even the minor dungeons they made have been left to rot. Why didnt the realm walker stay for example

The whole game, as well as the dev team and Rod Ferguson, needs to go in the scrap bid. The only way a Diablo game will ever be good again is if the franchise was sold to a better company.

We need some endgame and after several underwhelming skill and season changes , I think we may need some dev changes. Thanks for testing Rob , hope they listen to FEEDBACK.

Every change they’ve made for S8 has just made the game worse than it was.

I think that the slower leveling is better for people that are discovering builds but nor for the people that look up build guides and want to jump to the end mostly because they have no idea hoe to play the game until they can fill the guide. Personally I love the slower leveling process.

In my opinion, a lot of the problems D4 is facing stem from the lackluster and uninspired skill system that is a step backward compared to that of D3 and D2. They could have come up with a system that really marries the strengths of those two which are synergies between skills and skill runes that can meaningfully augment or completely change how a skill is cast. Currently, there are little incentives in maxing out or even leveling up skills other than your main damage dealer ones. Affixes that give “+ to X skill” are under utilized because the skills don’t change in any meaningful way when ranked up other than their damage, duration, potency, etc. A simple threshold skill system like that in Torchlight 2 would have encouraged players to attain specific skill ranks for additional effects. Similarly, the two mutually exclusive modifiers of each skill are entirely smoke and mirror as one is clearly better than the other 90% of the time.
Barbarians’ Shout skills in D4 are a massive let down as they offer no interesting iterations of the basic concept. There is no offensive, damage dealing Shouts so singer Barbs are not possible. Shout’s mechanics are also boring and lack imaginations. Why don’t they add a persistent effect that lasts for a while and an instant effect that should be used more strategically to every Shout for example? Or maybe take a page out of how GGG implements new mechanics and makes Shout skills much more dynamic and fun to use in combat. Without a total revamp of the skill system, I seriously doubt the capacity for the game to substantially improve in both the short and long terms.

3:40 I feel if they tuned down those powers Pit100 will be almost unachievable by most players

I agree with Rob on many points, but not on the leveling. I actually enjoy this phase, because you can experiment with skills, develop your build ideas, farm aspects and I thought the progression curve was pretty fun on the PTR (w/o abusing boss powers). Why do so many people want to skip leveling instead of embracing it as the “other” game, before endgame?

Pit scaling changed from 15% to 18% btw, not from 17% to 20%. This is why we have Pit 55 now as new torment 4 (= old 65).

About the core skills. I agree, but I think currently it is impossible to say how much damage they should do. We have no proper baseline with all the broken boss powers and all the broken builds from S7.

Make pure whirlwind great again. Barb isn’t a druid, barb should do the main damage with the weapons.
Last time I had fun with whirlwind was in season 3 doing 10 million damage in vaults with pure whirlwind.
Now it’s dust devils or earthquakes that kill everything behind you so you have to run back and collect lootand everything that increases whirlwind damage only is useless. That’s really bad.

2 more years 100 more stat squashes and will have a reasonable early game!!!! Could be the rest of my life. We’re never gonna get an end game that isn’t 4 buffs into 1 shot.

100% truth with the earthquake/dust devil… – (Lets call it) Rant

Personally I’m OK with builds centered around the boss powers instead of your own skills, just for one season. The main reason for me is that barbs are getting nothing in S8 anyway, that Mighty Throw unique gloves and the aspect are totally dead on arrival for me. Terrible design.

But yes, making our core skills useful would also go a long way.

Sounds ‘cool’ (?), and all.. BUT… Feells like 90% of the playerbase will never get to T4… :/

why is no one criticizing the removal of boss rotas?? it’s always been a huge part of teamplaying in D4 and helped casual players get some mythics to complete their builds without spending hours and hours to gather boss mats.

So when we gonna get the season 8 feedback patch notes?

Thank you for feedback rob gg men

the point about d2 leveling was great. I love D4 but they could def take some points from d2 when leveling. finding a way to make me feel like I’m working on my late game strategy when I’m leveling feels great.

my friend do you count something? anything has ever changed after you express what do you want?

Agree with your points 100%. The whole concept for seasons is out of wack. The D2 ladder originated seasons in arpgs. Its concept was to reset the race to 99. D4 has no race or incentive built into the game. Therefore, the blasters have a point about it being too easy and not having an endgame. They would be able to get a lot more views and interest with implementing the leader boards concept. These could be first to 60, first to paragon 300, highest pit clear, first to kill the ultimate pinnacle bosses, etc.
The other point of seasons is fun and entertainment for casuals, like me. We get to play a different way and still get to try harder or new content. I tried season 8 PTR, and it was not very engaging. You had to run and chase the event. There were no grim favors. The boss power upgrade material amount that dropped was very small. The character skill fantasy became non-existent, and you had to rely on the season power. Leveling slower is ok if it’s fun. It wasn’t fun to be forced to do the season event to be able to get enough power to progress, but at the same time not get enough xp to level.

Why should anyone even need the blacksmith? Why can’t they just make it , kill strong monster, get strong loot? Why is the blacksmith the most powerful entity in d4? Terrible game design.

So if season powers are required then what does that mean for eternal difficulty?

Rob, I only watched the first 10 minutes, but everything you said was absolutely correct, unexaggerated, and reflects my thoughts too. The difference between us is that I am so frustrated with the constant tinkering with no progress in improving the game. I mean increasing stack size to 99 in Season 8? Why was it ever set lower! Most upsetting to me is the constant nerfing of eternal alts, which are the innocent bystanders shot by Diablo management’s quest to maximize cash flow while making purchase of season passes “optional” to playing the game. The Season 8 design is the worst of this making the season powers necessary to play the end game.

I agree on the waiting timer. Why remove it on the cords gate and then add a timer on bosses that makes zero sense.

So you want to nerf the game even more. Keep having them nerf the builds and skills until it’s only you playing the game. I mean it makes sense. Let’s make pits harder so only sweat can do them keep making bosses harder so only people with no lives play. Let’s make every build except what rob plays until no one at all but rob plays. Enjoy Diablo 4 season of content creators will everyone with half a brain plays mhw or poe2. I mean I put 40-50 hours a week in the last 7 seasons to say enough is enough. My whole clan that played all day log is done with this game. Maybe see you next season in the season of normal/expert players not season of no life content creators that cry when their class sucks.

See rob thats what happens when you get kids and teens follwing maxroll builds and not let them think for a moment and do a self found build now the devs know everyone uses maxroll builds and are trying to balance it out.

For quality of life, I would like to see the ability to set markers or way points that are custom and multiple so that you can run areas faster like go got them out know where things are at and then come back and run it in a tiny fashion, i.e. like the route 25 roots and 15 minutes you need to be able to kind of scout out where the grim favors are atand then be able to come back and then run everything within 15 minutes instead of looking around in those 15 minutes. Something like a shift right click to lay down a customer marker or even some other modifier key.

Nice Rob, you did a awesome job! o/
It’s clearly that D4 team don’t play the game or have few people to improve the game.

The early game progress changes feels like a smoke bomb and a bad choice, beacuse as a lot of players addressed before :

* is actually the ‘late game’ that sucks, and giving extra time to get in there dont fix it, just sucks with extra steps of sucks
* low options of late game builds for each class even with the perfect items in stash sucks
* 99,999% items that drop sucks, and we have to “waste time” selling/savaging them sucks
* 9999 materworking attempts to get the right one sucks, and the price of 5mi for reset it is obscene
* 9999 enchantment attempts to get the right one sucks
* tempering stucking in the same result multiple times sucks
* having to spent hours on repeating routes and getting low resources, and burn it to having nothing chaged sucks
* fealing that D4 hold players by Gambling stimulations sucks

I’m sure that anyone that played that game felt the same way at some point.
And when I see the D4 team making changes that clearly aren’t the problem, I think to myself, and let’s be real, are they even playing the game?

I personally like Season 7 theme, it’s very engaged, still playing it, have 2 builds but mostly of the time i’m on a build that clear everything very fast. Hope to have the same fun in Season 8.

It’s such a shame the devs still don’t know what they want this game to be after 8 seasons. All grind and no true endgame. Haven’t played since the expansion season and the devs are so far giving me no reason to play D4 again…

The whole point for a timer is a chance to spawn him again for 2nd loot drop why doesn’t anyone understand that…y’all crying about nothing is lame

It’s season 8 and conduit shrine is still same and bad. nuff said. your expectations are too high. these snowflake devs cant take these “feedbacks” but keep saying they want it. #d4bad.

I like all the changes u said but will they listen? No

Seems s8 is the first season l’m gonna skip

0:21 he says this & then we have to farm him over & over so instead of a “ one shot “ a two shot ? Like come on they’re meant to farm Ubers nothing more

Cry about other things but not THIS repeatable content

Also this dude has unrealistic gear & powers we don’t even have organically in this clip

This is why D4 bad honestly we don’t ask for the correct problems to be solved at all

Let’s slow down the game, we level too fast. Let’s speed up the game, the wait time is too long. Make up ur damn mind. People are never happy with what is.

why make the game harder? just add more pit levels

PoE2 just needs to carry on what it’s doing to kill Diablo 4 as the Devs at Blizzard are sabotaging their own game, padding levelling and making it longer won’t keep players ingame if it’s boring…. I already tapp out at around 250 paragon each season…. I’m not sure I will even try this one unless there is massive changes, where is the new endgame content? I’m fed up of running pits to get my paragon up you need multiple activities giving similar xp for endgame. Also putting a timer on boss kills! A couple of seasons ago you made it faster to farm as you didn’t need to teleport out to reset the dungeon so why put in a 30 second timer? Are you not watching how people farm the bosses?

I’m skipping

so what youre saying is
the barb being nerfed and capped on 99.99% of everything
make you feel like you are playing how the sorc has been for 3 seasons -_-
and its not fun? gasp

The entire Skilltree and Paragonboard could use an overhaul making synergies between them and empowering core skills to become decent again. It seems blizzard is not doing the math for a balanced experience and more builds possible in general. It allways turns out to be one or two S-Tier builds.

I don’t understand why the blacksmith is talented enough to craft a mythic unique, but he can’t craft ancestral items…I think this should be added

Rogue is almost in the same boat. They should implement core and basic skills into the meta builds. I want to play penetrating shot, barrage or heat seeker without relying on gimmicks like rain of arrows.

every player should have “access” to ALL 3-4 GA items

So all they did is just tweak the numbers around and add some kind of powers and theme like previous season…Boring. Enough of playing with numbers already..give us REAL CONTENTS!

They need to make the boss drops way more randomized for what they drop because I am literally seeing multiples of the same thing drop on each kill. If I’m looking for a specific item from a boss and not only that boss has it, I’ll get 30 of the other items before I even see the thing that I need because it’s only dropping from that box

I try to give every season a chance even though I’ve never enjoyed the game since launch. There’s been good improvements and bad changes, but this is the first time where changes sound so bad and uninteresting to me that I don’t even want to try the next season. Completely killed any interest for me.

Do a better job at balancing ALL builds…we need variety, not just one great build per class.

leaderboards need to be added for lots of things. let people challenge one another. And not just pits. maybe even add a timer for campaign, people can have speed runs for campaign. that would be fun IMO. would like to see updates to nightmare dungeons too. I actually like NM dungeons. I’m not the biggest bosser fan so I probably will only be playing this season for a week or so. I been playing a lot of D2R lately anyway

its really Bad, the same Content which we got in Season 7

Rob, why you keep doing these videos? After 8 seasons haven’t you realized already that EVERY SINGLE SEASON is the same thing? EVERY SINGLE SEASON we can one-shot bosses, every single season we farm gear for what? If you can kill everything and complete the eason journey with a mediocre build. Maximizing a build for what? To do what? To kill what? If everything is doable and killable with any weak build. Stop wasting your time Rob doing always the same kind of videos that serve nothing.

Please no more season’s of extra powers make a season’s of extra content!

Bad is too kind ….this is close to Ubisoft level….

Blizzard devs need to just off themselves at this point 😂

Season 8: Season of Slow Down. Nothing about this season is positive or appealing.

i❤D4 🎉🎉 season8 can be great 😊

Why don’t you work for blizard? 😂

WE NEED 33% XP GAIN MORE ! BACK 33 % XP PLEASE !

6:16 I doubt we will ever get close to a D2 itemization system. LE and PoE2 has similar systems as well. D4 is in a league of its own with its poor itemization.

Bliz should hire you. Lots of great ideas!

they focused too much on expansions.. after 7 seasons game feels like base game with basicaly no endgame. i played all seasons but probably will skip this one.

After 8 seasons and roughly 2000 hours doing bosses as a season theme no thank you. Also no new mythics like wtf blizzard. Here are some things that i want to see implemented for me to come back:

Cow lvl
Kanais cube
Mercenary gear
Runewords 2.0
New roquelite gamemode
New permanent progression/power gain system in end game.

Season 8 might be the worst, most boring, stinking pile of shite ever. I hope it fails hard so the developers finally stop fucking around and get serious.

Gushing wounds was good in season 4 for flay and bleed bash dont know why they changed IT and dont Just adjust the other classes DOT dmg to the scale of that

this game is horrible…….it went backwards…..its getting worse and worse by the update

Would be nice If WE could Charge Up upheavel to increase DMG and area of effect

These feedbacks will be back in six seasons

back to the old saying, D4 BAD.Theses devs seem clueless,Have all the good devs they had been sacked and left blizzard

Maybe lillith could drop Mythic Uniques but with a different look to the other mythics in game, maybe guilded versions or gold plated, same stats but a really rare look to them

Season 8 will be further postponed, they need to rework all the modifiers and dmg scaling from the ground up otherwise season 8 will be lost from the start.

I am curious to see how the Boss Lair system feels once they add an endgame progression system , because i’ve always felt that bossing would be better if it was similar to D2

the loop is getting tiresome.

agree

S8 is L 😖

The TEMPERING needs to be FIXED

We have to be careful on how you portray that information. The footage you are showing is the perfect build. Everything is maxed. As it currently stands, you can only do this with characters that are able to max their glyphs and get paragon 260 or above.

Other than that, great feedback

D4 is extremely boring. They need to fix the way skills feel first of all, then make the game actually fun moment to moment.
Compare how similar skills feel in D4, LE and POE, it’s night and day. There’s no proper physicality and impact in D4, it’s just bland.
The game needs a major rework in that aspect in it’s next expansion…

The game in general is pretty bad😅 no end game no leaderboards no group meta, D3 is over 10 years old and still better than D4.

How about epic guild stronghold pvp events anything to spice the endgame up.Pits at endgame gets boring after a day or more.And thats it for endgame seriously get off your behind blizzard and do something.

thank u rob for wat u do for the community great video

I honestly think Season 8 is gonna be the best so far—everything feels smoother and way more fun to grind. People are just complaining ’cause they got too used to things being easy, but honestly, a little challenge makes it better.

I uninstalled the game long ago and it seems like no season theme will make me come back. They need to completely re-do half of the systems and end-game activities which is what I expected from the expansion.

agrees

Season 8 will be trash

Sick of delays.

Even though boss powers are super strong, without them this strong it’s impossible to get glyphs past 70 in the pit….

We have been doing the same thing for a couple of seasons now. And I don’t understand why they are not implementing leaderboards again. They make difficulty hard one season, then easier the next, then back to hard again. It’s like they can’t make up their mind. It’s upsetting because I love D4.

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Its a pity they’re unlikely to implement any of this feedback

Dude the entire franchise is a catastrophe. I understand why you torture yourself playing it, views and revenue, but Diablo died long ago.

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