Ranting to get views, it makes perfect sense from a game balance perspective

cyberpunk did this well with the reputacion system

Good news you can now use mods to get that

Because it gives you more reasons to do the new game+ ending mechanic. Just go around and around until you’ve unlocked everything.

They could’ve tied some actually powerful ship parts to some kinda ‘sponsorship’ or rewards program for manufacturing companies. Add a questline where you’re helping Deimos hunt down stolen military ships/experimental parts in return for their newest/rarest weapons.

Or help Taiyo commit espionage to steal patents/blueprints for a new ship design (And maybe shop out the plans to whichever ship companirs you want and get their own takes on it).

Or even help a Corp bring Nova Galactic back to life with a brand new ship, and get rewarded with a Frontier mkII.

Playing through this trash with a trainer improved the launch experience significantly

Because you can use console commands to get money and level up your skills, but you can’t level up your character with console commands, so you have to actually play the game instead of cheat your way through, sorry l was wrong, you can cheat using council commands to level up your XP, player.setlevel #, sucks.

It’s ‘cuz this game is shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii……. *

I love how the cat is just chilling in the background

Here let me explain to you in stupid terms. Person see ship part. He no know what ship part do cause ship part so advanced. Since he dont know what ship part do how can he use ship part? How he install ship part without knowing what to do?

It was literally just free guaranteed money to get people on game pass. They will never make this game on par with any other sci-fi rpg or even Bethesda classic rpg

Why everybody keep making videos complaining about everything

You should be able to specify where the ladders go

Cyberpunk does this too with vehicles and weapons

😂😂😂😂😂 bro is mad

Yeah, you need to take the spaceship perk to use advanced spaceship components.

I think of the experience gained in game as progression you would have in real life. You cant just go from graduating highschool straight into being a x ray technician. you need to learn about it before you can jump into using the equipment needed for the x rays. so you study how to use that specefic equipment properly and then you can use it when you get more experience around that piece of equipment. But imagine one day a better x ray machine is installed, you would then need to re learn how to use this machine before you can use it as well . Thats just how i thought of it though and im flyin

This is like fallout 4 character who’s ex army but you have to level up for the experience you would have if was emersive 😂

It’s just another artifact of Bethesda being outdated. They are geriatric developers that get confused by new information, let alone having to change their habits.

money is pointless in starfield someone slap this boy

It’s been like this since skyrim and I think oblivion. Fallout 4 was also like this. The reasoning behind it is that the parts you unlock at a later level are normally more powerful. More Grave Drive thrust, higher damage, etc. Now the habs, lime the living quarters and such I understand why its annoying becuase they pretty much cosmetic but you can use any hab style and still get all the functions from it like. The armory or science lab. Also there’s no point in being able to buy higher level weopons/engines/grav drives/reactors because you need to a specific perk to be able to use anything above B or C class.

Social credit.. lol

skill issue

I’d day the entire “game” was the worst idea about it.

to be fair, there is a lot of ridiculous stuff tied to perks in this game. I mean, really, you need a perk just to be able to use your jet pack? Come on! That should be default. I get the whole needing a perk to be able to hover in the air and slow down time, but stuff like flying different size ships or using the ships thrusters? ridiculous.

Also the fact that you can’t transfer ships parts between ships is stupid. If I buy a part and take it off a ship, I should be able to put it on any ship I want, not just the one I bought it for.

A mod removed it.

maybe specific ship parts require different licensing that can only be granted to folks with a certain amount of experience with space flight

Can you drive a semi without training?

All the arm flappin is freakin out Whiskers. And yes it is dumb.

console commands

sit todd down and please tell him he is fired, im tired of todd howards supposed vision, he did a great job on skyrim, yet its like he has been riding that high and not focusing on making the next games better. i mean they still use the creation engine, why not go unreal 5, it can do the same things the creation engine does but better and the fps is not tied to the refresh rate of the monitor. played fallout 4 at 240hz and dear lord that was fast, had to manually set it to 60 to just play

Gid bless the mods makers for fix this now we need a mod that take the fucking piloting big ships out of the level sistem I build my favorite ship and Surprise I CANT FUCKING USE ITS UNTIL I BE LEVEL 3 ON PILOT AND SHIP TEC FUCK THE IMBECILE WHO THINK THATS WAS A GOOD IDEA I JUST WANT TO PILOT MY EGG CARRIER AT PEACE!!!!! I not have time to level up like crazy for weeks to be able to just the same ship I build!!!

I don’t mind that some parts are bound to perks like starship design. But why do I have to wait until lvl 60 to buy thibgs like sf40 reactors even though I have all the neccessary perks at lvl 20?

Challenge and Balance.
Leveledlist exist in all of their game so you have to grind levels and not be overgeared because their game are so simple that the only thing made it challenging and fun is adding mods that either ruin the immersion more or add stuff that distract you from the vanilla aspect lore-friendly wise.

To me, for FO4 its Sim Settlement 2 and for Skyrim its Beyond Skyrim (their Bruma mod gave me hope)

Bethesda: “We don’t want to make the game too easy. So we made level locks.”
XD like skyrim, fallout, oblivion. Level lists

You aren’t wrong especially since as you level up you’d have more and more money anyways

How have you people not realized that todd just sells the games. He doesnt make them or design, hes the “big picture” guy… how many times have you purchased skyrim?

Omg you have to play the game to unlock better stuff as you play!!!! *glances* Every game Ever. I bet half the nerds shouting this crap play AT LEAST 2 different MMO games. Those that play WoW? Daily grinds for 6 hrs and raid for 4 hrs then rep grind to get access to certain Content… but leveling to 60 in a game to get access to All ship parts… Thats the dumbest shit?

One thing suck about this is one of those that have jail but can’t even arrest anyone but only mod can 😢

Oohh make it where the components cost normal price when it’s at your level. But if it higher level than you it would cost 100 times more than what it actually is. That would fix your problem and create a problem.

You have to be smart enough to use the part like a tech would be and then like an engineer.

When todd orders his meal at the dinner, tell him despite the fact he can afford it, hes unfortunately not a high enough level for that plate and will need to select something else.

Not as dumb as having a space ship game, where you can’t fly anywhere in your spaceship. Shit you can fill a library with all of the dumb design choices in this shit game.

It’s generic action adventure slop….

Actually it makes perfect sense to me you don’t instantly gain access to the weapons and armor with the best stats right? Why would you expect that you get the ship parts with the best stats right off? Cola use I know I don’t expect that. But,maybe your just one of those people that expect everything handed to you at the start and bitch about it if you don’t get it right off 😮😂

His opinions are rarely bad

«well of course I know him. I’m him”

…so you have to put in the time? Just like every other game where after you get to a certain level, you gain materias or abilities… sound familiar?

I do wish people would stop pretending that Todd is anything other than a snake oil salesman.

He’s a Master-level bs artist, sure, but he ain’t no dev.

who convinced him ptw is a good idea at all?

This is why the best way to play a Bethesda game is with the console. Level up, get all the perks and materials and research done, and then play on the hardest difficulty and see what you can find! Quit whining about immersion; it’s not real. Just play the game and have fun. If it’s not fun, play something else.

It’s a common trope of modern RPG’s, to use level scaling as a substitute for actual progression. You don’t need to build a balanced, engaging system when you can just gate things behind arbitrary play time requirements.

Yeah. I agree. Makes sense, mostly.

Well, there are 5 different types of pilot certifications. Private, commercial, transport, sport and recreation. Those are based on experience (level) and money. *shrugemoji*

Oh no, different items become available to you as you increase your level.
Is this your first time playing an RPG?

And then they force you to restart your character every single time. Making either finishing the game not worth it, or making the fun aspects of the game not worth it.

They should’ve had like a reputation level that would’ve made a little bit of sense

In my country at least, you can’t drive a truck with a car license, nor machinery approved with a truck license, to me it makes sense that they don’t sell you parts without a license, but pirates should be able to sell them to you without a problem.

Bad game but commercial success because generating hype is everything

Klaus Schwab probably.

ONE THING!? ONE!?

Maybe, just maybe it was for balancing issues. It’s like saying why can’t I buy daedric armor in Skyrim at level 1 when later you can eventually buy daedric armor. Because you would become very overpowered 😃

I honestly love the game to death because of how beautiful it is and the concept of the world, it really gives off game of thrones vibes in a sense that it take places many years after a crazy in depth war between the 2 main factions but man the logic to the game is terrible! Like why do humans have multiple health bars, Why are there even health bars in the game, shouldn’t it just be the bigger or more armored the more rounds it takes. I don’t expect to kill a big monster in a few shots unless it’s got an obvious weak spot. Idk it’s like games like Helldivers feel so awesome and immersive and it doesn’t need health bars to tell me how I’m doing against bug enemies. I love starfields gameplay and side quest just whoever made the logic of it is trash. Wanted more of a space sim rather than borderlands. Also the main story is just garbage side stories and quest are way better.

I feel like your level is like intelligence, if you aren’t smart enough to install or run it it’s useless. Idk that’s how I try to validate it in my play throughs

“Todd, I love you, you feed me shit again and again, repackage it, rebrand it, rerererelease it, and for that I respect you”

This was literally the reason I stopped playing. Earned like 250k to do nothing with and can’t actually do the one thing I was excited for, ship building. Cause my character is not a good enough pilot I can’t build a cool ship. 10/10 throw it in the lake.

Since we have to explain it to stupid people, it’s very simple because there are glitches and hacks. You can do in order to get money so by level two you could have almost 10,000,000,000 credits just because you have the money doesn’t mean you have the level to get the object by level 10, you shouldn’t be able to one shot, every single ship

Agreed

They better not make the spaceship parts in ES6 gated behind character level or I’ll be very upset

Thank God for mods

I think it’s the idea that you have to be a certain level of pilot or whatever to maintain whatever higher level equipment you are using. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you’d know how to maintain the equipment.

Just mod it that’s what I did

For all games!

Maybe because your characters need to havr skills to use these parts

No one cares. Play your game

Lol we memed Pathfinder 2.0 about this too. Had to be level 2 in order to buy a crowbar

Also they should’ve left out the base building so we could do more with the ships

The same goes with any personal weapons or other gear. If it’s available to buy somewhere, your level should not matter!

They should have tied new parts to various faction progression stages, time passed in game (new product released), and maybe a few “prototype” components available only by completing special quests here and there.

GTA online is just quietly trying to get away from him

Console player?

One of the first PC mods released for Starfield was unlocking all the shipparts at level 1

Complain about consoles nerfing what’s possible with games and advocate PC games so we can actually get all the stuff they promise but have to cut because consoles cant handle it.

You can’t order in an aircraft carrier as a private in the military.

Sitting and waiting when they will add an ship stamina bar for the real immersion❤

Grow up.

First time playing an rpg ? Lol

Best thing I can say is experience. Like the skill for it may be like earning a license like how gun ones have multiple grades. Like a normal gun license can’t buy an anti material rifle. But a class 3 license can.

Yes it’s a thing it’s the anzio 20mm AMR

Your character level eludes to character’s your intellect on ship components and how they work.

answer is they did it becouse they dont have a real economy. Its one of the oldest tricks in gamedesign. To not break the game they have to dot his becouse economy is not really a thing in the game.

A nice comparison to communism. Welcome

This is one of the problems in many games. Just playing witcher 3. Its dum that you get bunch of cool looking gear at lower levels, but once the normal gear gets better you are forced to wear ugly stuff.

Just because of the level and stats of the gear.

items that require a level to acquire has always been stupid to me. thats why i like it when games let you buy whatever so long as you have the money and skills/perks just allow to be more skilled with the item you acquire if you so choose.

Frankly, it’s so easy to get good gear in the game just by playing. They have to create some challenge. It’s not hard to level up or get gear.

Your dumb, this is literally just standard RPG shit to keep you from becoming over powered to quick. It’s like complaining ebony swords aren’t immediately available at a shop on Skyrim.

I honestly for a moment thought you were Michael Shanks from Stargate SG1 😁

Starfield has absolutely zero immersive gameplay. Can’t land your ship yourself. Can’t actually properly fly it yourself. Can’t really do anything. Loading screens every two minutes.

Hmmm, can you buy a car without a driver license in your country tho? I agree that they should allow us to buy it if we got the money, but is that unimmersive? I don’t know if that’s true.

The same reason why you can’t buy Ebony Swords at level 3 in Skyrim. The whole point is to upgrade as you level.

It’s the same problem in FO4 where skill ranks were level locked completely degrading some fantastic early game RP builds without mods. Additionally having the top speed of a ship decided only by the class of engine with only acceleration and maneuvering being affected by total thrust was just head up ass nonsense.

because videogame

⁠what makes Starfield more sad is that starcitzen u can travel to planets an on the planet itself in your ship starfield have no excuse for not doing what starcitzen been doing an that game is not officially out yet I mean yea starcitzen is multiplayer but starfield is single player I think it would be smoother to do than a multiplayer game

So you can’t make overpowered shit at level 10 it’s called balancing

I’m on ng+ and Starfield is very rewarding when you beat the game plus on ng+ you can create A whole new build

You didn’t unlock “steak with Todd Howard” yet.

Well cars upgrade system was the same in all racing games out there and nobody cared

He had to describe what made him upset in the lengthiest most drawn out way possible 😂

Honestly I’m like never in my ship lol

Really? It’s only ship parts that bothers you? I think ALL games tying anything to character level that is not skill based is idiotic. Look at Diablo, why does a level 50 barbarian get an axe that does 20k damage but a level 1 gets an ax that does 1k? Same thing with Starfield and their gun damage or WoW and it’s armor protection or Final Fantasy and it’s sword damage.

This is a mid take as games do this for so many things. You can’t get the good stuff till x

I like how x4 foundations handles it. You need to have atleast some positive standing with a faction to get access to all of their shit. Then it’s just “can you pay for it”

Rpg style character levels don’t make sense in a space sim in the first place.

Just play Star Citizen

Guys just admit it.
This game FUCKING SUCKS!!!
Shooting feels ok… but thats it!!
Yall were bitching about maps for places that dont even fukn need them! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ohhh i cant find a store that is litteraly in a map that takes 2 minutes to discover!!! Pathetic!
Like what is intriging about the largest city once you have walked around it for 5 mins!

if they really want to restrict player to buy high level ship spare part. Maybe they could use permit level system instead of character level.
So the higher your permit level, you are allowed to buy military grade spare part.

Obviously balancing issues genius 🙄

one of the things?!…..

Personally what i do is i buy the stuff i need then flip it around to where i sell them i weapons and suits so im getting my money back plus theres 😂 also there a mod now that fixes that along/ your settings also has unlimited vendor credit but if i remember right it gives you negative xp witch it stupid

Pet the 🐈

This Game is boring

The resources and importance.
There is a reason why only sepect few can get to some clubs and “inner circles” of social life.

Damn, its almost like its a video game. Almost…

Bethesda doesn’t make immersive games anymore, man. Strictly action an adventure now with some weird settlement building system and lazy RPG mechanics thrown in. Still gonna buy then though but id be lying if i said i was excited right now.

Im more looking forward to Avowed and The Wayward realms than anything current Bethesda is talking about, unfortunately.

Fingers crossed the elder scrolls 6 is way more immersive than StarField, FO4 and Skyrim. Ain’t no way its gonna play just like Skyrim, right? Nonetheless, I hope Bethesda lands on its feet in the next few years. Cyberpunk should’ve been the slap in the face they needed. The animation are miles ahead of anything the creation engine can do, and the red engine or whatever the hell kinda suck donkey nuts, allegedly.

Loved your performance in Cyberpunk, dog. I share the same name as the character you voiced so the interactions were just that much funnier to me. Haha

Take care, man.

Because starfield is a crap game from the start and now a dead game

with the piloting and starship design skills, I’d think that would be enough.

Cry more

Lol plays Starfield while complaining about it too, basically most gamers these days, call their favourite games so dumb when they spend hours playing it 😆 like omg this is so dumb, I have spend 400 hours on it and it’s still so dumb 😆

That’s how most RPGs work. You don’t get to just buy the super cool weapons and armor from shop keepers until you reach a high enough level

Thank god for mods!!!

first bethesda game, huh?

That’s why are mod creators, because of that

To be fair, ship components are like powerful armor and weapons: Why would you get them early on? You might as well request a fucking instant-win button, beat the game with a single press. How about earning your good shit?

It’s an obnoxious way to artificially increase playtime and I hate it

It should be based on level because then its pay to win. You gotta earn better components through experience rather than just having the money to afford it.

And also, the ending absolutely sucks.

i love how pretty much every RPG does that now, but starfields fucks up the formula by showing you the item locked up behind the skill level check, when usualy you only see the item being sold when you reach the right level, it goes from “kind messing with your suspension of disbelief” to “this whole world only exists to be a videogame” instantly

*me getting distracted by the cat in the background*

It would be better if you just could not build the ship if you do not have level because your character is too dumb to know how to build one. Y can be rich as hell but if you are tech dumb y do not know how to use anything. granted that if y are rich someone y can get someone to do it for you.

This game is shit.

It’s super easy to make money…leveling up is harder. Seriously. I can raid everything and sell it to make 1 million in no time. …and then I would have a boss ship with no threats of any kind.

It’s so you have to grind and keep playing.

Level? So what 5 levels in you can unlock them all 😂 cause its not level its a starship design skill

Almost like designing ships would be an actual skill to learn in ths worlds

I wonder what happened to Todd Howard, he used to be great, now he’s just some corporate hack loser

A lot of games lock things based on lvl is it stupid yes but I’m not surprised

The game is just bad as a whole, but ya, this is the worst part of the worst parts

Yes, Yes I agree.

I encountered this very same thing in Cyberpunk 2077 and I know *exactly* why it is like this. It’s because a mythical thing.. a POWER that modern gaming all revolves around…

It’s called ” _bALaNcE LAwL_ ” and I hate it.

I’ve put more hours into Starfield since Creation Club got put on console for reasons like this.
The reason it’s in the game (still stupid) is additional padding in an already huge game.
Same goes for the skill challenges just more ways to pad on the play time. Yes I modded that out too, much better for it.

Because Emil likes to tie everything behind levels. Yes i will continuously blame him for everything deserves it for being a bad writer

Make the character earn licenses to use better parts through challenges and quests

It makes a lot of sense how much do you know about car parts to be able to tell a mechanic how you would want to modify it.

because you can later add a DLC that give DLC users some extra levels, like NewWorld did… bad idea

It’s like “Why can’t I get a beer when I am not 18 or up?”

Oh boohoo you gonna cry more about it?

Couldn’t possibly have been Todd’s idea

It actually makes perfect sense

It’s for game balancing purposes. If you made a ship with game ending parts at the beginning you will destroy ships like it was nothing. Then the fun of the game is gone

Stupidest part of this game is that people actually bought it.
Also :”Todd, i love you”. Really?
Do you like lying people? People who don’t respect others? Good for you then.
You’re part of the problem man.

What a lame gripe. How is it different than any other gear you can access that’s locked behind level? For any game, for that matter? Move on.

Waiting for a mod(“creation”) for more then 1 damn reactor

Money can’t buy everything. Your character can unlock opportunities. These are real world truths.

Oh there is a really simple explanation to this. They didn’t do it because it’s fun or because it’s immersive, they did it to artifically pad game time. You want to build the coolest ship you can? Time to spend 40-50-60 hours grinding out those levels or you won’t be able to buy the better/shinier/cooler parts. If they gave you all the parts / equipments/ weapons / etc. from the start everyone would have farmed out just enough money to put together their ship and buy the equips and weapons that best suit their game style, blitz through the main story and move on to a different game.

All this is is a forced progression system that artifically lengthens the time you spend playing, because it would have looked real bad for Bethesda if their hyper-super, massive sized new game would start bleeding players after an absolute maximum of 10-20 hours of playtime.

better pilot better components

Thats a good point.

16x the detail of level requirements -Todd Howard

Plus its complicated as f..k

It makes sense if you can’t drive it without the skills. Because that makes sense. You need skills jn order to be able to use different types of heavy equipment. But if you can use it on a stolen ship, you should be able to buy it.

Ooetetetetetete beeby beeby yeseeiyuz! Yeeyus!

One of the reasons I stopped playing

I mean shit it makes sense with everything else being tied to level just like with any other bethesda game. And you wouldn’t being to get c class parts at level 12 because unless you’re using console commands you wouldn’t be able to get the perk ranks you need fast enough, so why show you a bunch of shit you can’t use??

Might as well ask him where the f*ck did the alleged “20 years” he spent making this game go…

No i dont mind having to level up and work for things i want. It adds to goals when making a playthrough.
The mentality of money should be all you need is the same attitude that rides the pay to play train. Making skins purchasable rather than achievable.

“Congrats! You have the knowledge required to use this advanced piece!”
“But… Isn’t it the role of the spaceship computer?”

Why in Starfield must I have a big diploma in advanced electro-technics to buy and run a pre-made computer exactly? Wow, not as much smartphones would be sold if the world worked like this.

What I hate more is the perk that increases your cargo capacity. Given that, yeah, the hardware magically can hold 20% more because you get better at Tetris and Sokoban, but to unlock the next one, you have to fill your cargo above a certain limit multiple times in fast travels to be able to unlock the next one. My ship, with one of those perks unlocked, is at 36000 cargo capacity (~70% of my ship is cargo pieces) I cannot even fill it at like 50% despite me vaccuming all the maps 100% because I haul them mainly to sell a lot of crap.

The cargo cap of your charater in like 260 with some bonus from your equipment, yest you have even more shit (especially heavy ones) to carry than in any other Bethesda game.

Also, cargo that looks the same are at least 40% heavier because they can hold more stuff in them.

I feel that frustration.

This is why when I did play this mess of a game I cheated using a trainer, bethesda just doesn’t know what they’re doing.

I didn’t know Dr Daniel Jackson of SG-1, played Starfield in his free time! 😲

What’s the problem?
Higher level=better gear.
That’s the way video games usually go.

It makes no sense _now_ , but they’ve done it for every game since Morrowind…

Personally I want stairs in my ships. I hate using ladders. And if they line up and I slip, I fall and get hurt or die.

Todd…”The ships have SIXTEEN TIMES THE DETAILS!”

Your 1st mistake is not assuming Todd dumbass aint the 1 who approved his own idea to make that how it works 😂.
But u forgot to mention u need to be a certain level, at certain vendors cause your outpost wont have it all, & have enough to afford it, but also be ready to assemble the ship then go somewhere else to finish fully making it how u want cause u cant save a half ass finish project 🤦🏿‍♂️

I could understand the propulsion system cuz it would probably take training to proper handle the ship if you jump from like 10,000 thrust to like 15k thrust cuz thats alot more power to control but everything else makes no sense

Just because you have the money doesn’t necessarily mean you have the connections the cloud or the access to get everything you want in this world that’s a fact of life that’s a part of reality so yes that is immersive but I wouldn’t expect people like you to understand if you’ve never even been to a certain level you won’t get it and if by default you’re a crybaby you won’t get it there’s levels to everything in life but you don’t get it

I think a more realistic way to implement restrictions on ship parts vs level/perk is to nerf or boost the ship stats based on your level and/or unlocked perks. If you’re fairly low level you CAN fly a Class C ship. But your maneuverability will be terrible because you don’t have the skill to fly such a large ship.

demetri is like “are you ok dad?” :pleadingface:

I thought Todd was a producer?

Your level dictates what weapons and armor you find in skyrim. Your level decides monsters you fight and what treasures you find since D&D in the 70’s. This isn’t new.

It was probably Todd, remove him

but with money you can’t buy the intelligence to know how to build and produce something like that

Ferrari:
Rolex:

Nah, that’s bc of players like me.
player.additem f 1000000

Most games you can’t get better things till you level up, including cosmetics

Starfield is a shit game! The entire game is unimmersive and full of nonsensical walls.

With great power comes great responsibility…Bethesda just feels like you haven’t earned that Deimos Wing spar at level 1.

oh honey, you’re so deep into an abusive relationship you can’t even realise

that is 1 beautiful ship good sir

The ship building was the best part of the game.

They basically did it because they had no idea how to value the ship components, and it also had the benefit -for the devs, that it slowed down progression

idk what your talking about, im just here for the little kitty in the backround

Lol… Are you the older ratboy in the world?
Why you cry? You want all without effort… Well your your effort it’s cry on the net… Like the Big RatBoy what you are.

He only plays with god mode on.

I wouldn’t sell a car to someone who doesn’t have the experience to even drive it. This didn’t age well

It doesn’t matter I’m level 151. No mods did it overtime.

oh no a game mechanic doesn’t reflect real life! you know what else is unrealistic? being able to continue after you die

Hopefully this game gets the cyberpunk treatment and has a major comeback

yes, instead of working for those parts you would get them without doing any work. yes that 100% makes sense if you are lazy.

So true it’s dumb

Even when the engine isn’t wigging out, a Bethesda game doesn’t function like it should. That’s not a bug, it’s a feature and that’s why Starfield sucks overall. “It just works,” my ass!!!

Man am I glad I stuck to Star Citizen

Because not everybody should be behind a racecar without proper training

I think it may be related to the leveled list. Kinda everything scales with level in Bethesda games. For normal stuff it means it just appears at a later point. I guess that’s equivalent for ships.

Not worth getting this worked up about something a 10kb mod can fix

They can’t design a balanced economy. Case closed. This issue is the least of the issues with this blandfest of a game 😂😂😂

Dude. That’s a tried and true, basic RPG mechanic. If anything, it makes the feeling of progression more immersive. Everyone wants everything on a silver platter these days. Lazy.

“And so I took Todd out to a nice steakhouse, and never called him again!”

Holy shit, this beast… :O

For balanced play… The ship is your character for half of the game. Cool off your autism jets there JJ the Jetplane.

The ability to rotate certain habs such as the 3×1’s or decide on ladder placements or if we want a docker or not.

Agreed, good thing mod support is out now.

Bethesda is terrible.

You SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND DELETE YOUR GAME

It’s called progression and doesn’t fit easily with immersion ❤

That’s why this game is suck😔

That intern: it just works

Your character level isnt tied to this, the perk for ship components do. Meaning you can unlock all ship parts at level 5 if you somehow managed to get the money

(Not a starfield fan here) however, it’s not that unrealistic, we have lots of brands irl that require status to receive certain products or will assign you one at “random” if you aren’t affiliated during certain releases, where your fame or notoriety will dictate what you can get, yet they will still put bars on how you use it and what colors you can use ect.
(Exotic sports car brands, Gucci, LV, Rolex and many more)

Starfailed

Average Bethesda game

Lol special. That game is pure boring garbage. It could have been great if they dropped the pile of shit Creation Engine that’s holding the devs back. It’s a curse.

I have a question was at war with someone over No Mans Sky An starfield because I feel like besta.wanted the NMS performance but the ones to make NMS left are disagreed so besta.said they’ll make there own without the NMS Crew 😂 (Skyrim No Mans Sky 😂)

Because character progression

Its called game balance

…is that people paid actual money for it.

*cough cough* AHEM *clears throat*

*Mods.*

I agree with your statement..

I always saw as like kind of vehicles. You need certain licenses Dr certain Vehicles so if you apply that to if you could mod a vehicle Phoenix a little bit more sense. Still doesn’t make sense but maybe a little

Todd better be listening to every rant people have.

That’s why I just cheated and leveled up my character 😂 it’s so stupid

Pilot skill level

Definitionbkf redditor

This guys head looks like it’s retaining water.

fucking mod this out

Lol, I could have asked him a few weeks ago. Although, it would’ve been a waste of my Q&A time…

It’s absolutely horrible……if I got the money let me buy it

It’d make sense if it was a lisence or something, in game, that you could do missions to improve thus gaining access to more parts. Making it locked to player level is extremely silly and not well thought through from an in universe canon level.

You can have the money to buy a 200m long ship, doesn’t mean you’re able to navigate with it or know all the regulation that come with it.
You could have the money to buy an 18-wheeler, doesn’t mean you’re able to drive one or have the license to drive one.
You can have the money to buy a huge passenger aircraft, doesn’t mean you can or know how to fly it if all you did was flying papercrafts or a small Cessna.
So like, no it’s not unimmersive, it’s simply frustrating, big difference.

Still nothing better to do with your life than shit talk video games eh? Pathetic.

cat: “calm down, dude”

I can’t believe how bad this game is considering the hype… It’s just a less glitchy Fallout, that still has glitches. A game that is SO repetitive. The shipbuilding could’ve been great. The Outpost building on console is a freaking nightmare. it was clearly time to reset after Fallout 4. they should’ve gone with a new engine and it was easy to see the future… the future is consequential decision-making. AI is going to be great for that. You will have infinite endings for games. It should’ve leaned into the music, which used to be great. after you’ve been in the business world for a while, you can just tell when companies are adverse to spending money to be great. It’s all about short term payoff.

Star Citizen is better

Not gonna give a four year old a car, and you definitely wouldn’t give someone inexperienced to driving a monster truck.

Its a game

artificial padding.

It’s because with more advanced ship parts it would presumably be more difficult to pilot the ship. Still weird, but it almost makes sense sense

Haha. This is actually why I stopped playing and decided not to buy the dlc when it releases. Even if I mod a fix into the game I just can’t get back into it now.

Licenses and permissions?

I am not defending the game but at the same time even if you have the money doesn’t mean you can just buy anything.

Well I could be wrong, I think it says somewhere in the game but I could totally be wrong. The ship parts have to do with the class parts you’re authorized to use based on your skill level. So for example, and I could be totally wrong here, but in pretty sure I can’t just drive a semi truck with a class c driver’s lisence. I know I know, very confusing.

This sort of shit goes back to Oblivion, but I think it’s reached peak absurdity here

Levels contribute to knowledge, the less levels you have, the “dumber” the character is…Without experience, you can’t use the tools

me: I’d like to buy an engine for my ship
cashier: Sorry, you’re not level 20 yet.

guest what it was todd himself lol

His cat agrees.

So, you can’t instantly buy the best thing.
You need to take time, the longer it takes the more hours you clock in, the more hours you clock in the more game-hours Tod can claim that players spent on starfield.
That’s all, no (sane) dev at Bethesda who made it like this thought this was a good idea, they were probably just told to pad out game time so they can claim people played their game for longer than the amount of content it has.

He came up with this idea himself.

I agree with this it doesn’t make sense to me, like having stuff unlock for your ship depending on level is dumb. Like if it’s reputation it makes sense but not level

The way ship merchants sell certain parts in certain locations SUCKS.
At least let me mail order the god damn parts for a markup! It’s insane

Don’t forget that you need to put ability points too

Really? That’s the big problem?

If there was no internet you wouldent give a toss bcos u wouldent kno and just enjoy the game because humans always want the best and they want it now!

I disagree with the idea that ship components being tied to character level is arbitrary. This mechanic ensures a balanced progression and enhances the challenge and engagement of the game. Allowing any component to be purchased regardless of level would undermine the sense of achievement and could disrupt game balance.

I’m sure Todd will get right on that

with that logic i could buy the best parts at say lvl 4 as long as i had the credits

Yeah todd is special

Your first mistake was playing Starfield in the first place.

They did the same thing with settlement building in Fallout 4. This is Bethesda, did you really think they were going to be different just because Starfield was going to be in space?

Some of the ship parts that should lock together also don’t, so they’ve limited the building too much, it is also limiting in the sense that say if you want to add another hab for companions or something small, it comes up with an error saying you need to reduce mass or add another engine then adding another engine maximizes mass once again it’s sooo dumb man

I mean I agree with his statement however you can’t be mad at that because that’s how almost any game is when it’s a game based on your character’s level tarkov is the same gta is the same cod is the same elder scrolls is the same there are hundreds of games that have it like that where just because you have the money doesn’t mean you get it you still have to level up for it I agree it’s stupid but again you can’t be mad about it because you should of known that before buying it 😂

Thats one of the least thing that doesnt make sense in Starfiels 😂

Where is todd? 😡😡

One of many shit things about a shit game 😂

That’s what you don’t get about Starfield? Nothing about that game made sense lol

Translation: I wanna be level 9 with the strongest possible ship.

Yeah so this guy that comes off a rock in the middle of nowhere I should be able to buy the best machinery just cuz he has the money

Would it make you FEEL better if they removed the character levels all together. And instead had a “Captain’s Liscense” with incremental stages that allowed you to have bigger ships/components?

Kinda like in real life where you have to have experience and training to get different classes or drives liscense, learners, motorcycle, Class-A (air brake), Heavy equipment, etc.

I understand the perks, but then the levels too?

What is this two factor authentication bullshit

The worst is that, once you buy the level, you have to buy some parts that you don’t want.. just to keep levelling up until they let you buy and install the best stuff.

Woodys milk definitely aint 2 dollars, you dont have milk delivered to you in a glass bottle for 2 bucks

Ive been saving and grinding for my favorite class C ship only to find out it won’t appear in vendors for another 20 levels for me 😔. They want you to buy the fun stuff after youve completed all the best content. What’s the point?

So we complain about this, but not that a bandage completely heals broken limbs in seconds?

Kitty!!!!!!!!!

Shops don’t even close vendors are 100% Androids

I resent you trying to push your opinions down our throats. Keep it to yourself! No respect.

👏🏻😂👏🏻

One of the reasons why i quit starfield after 6 days

First completely unimmersive thing in StarFIeld are absolutely fake lifeless plastic NPCs. I understood it playing first 15 min of intro in the cave. That “main character” woman with blunt face continued to lecture me about “situation” completely ignoring the fact that I’ve run away and were shooting miners with mining laser in other part of the cave. THAT was unimmersive.

The whole game is just booring

I was going to buy Starfield, but my character level wasn’t high enough.

Has nothing to do with character level – has to do with your ability to fly / handle certain classes of ships. If you never drove an 18 wheeler without first training then hopped into one to take it for a spin – then you’re highly likely to get yourself or someone else k!lled… If you can fly class C ships you can build using ANY parts (provided you can find said parts)

The ship components should just scale with your level, rather than being set at the level you buy them.

this was something I overcame in about 20 hours. It literally didnt effect me. especially since theres so much to focus on.

It’s level based because otherwise u buy the best components at low level and travel to further worlds skipping content

You mean like you have to get to certain levels of real life or reach certains ages to buy certain things.

Same thing in Cyberpunk. Worse in a way, because they’d show it in the store menu, but just “you can’t buy this”.
Level locked purchases = Nope

Bc they know if everything was available from the start there’d be almost nothing to grind levels for and everyone would’ve got bored way faster than they already did 😂

Starfield has lot of Stupid parts

Totally agree with this fact ! due to the game and NG+ I mostly only do ship building and it’s a pain in the a** !

REALLY this seems like a normal gaming thing

Also, literally every ship part is one of 3 different shapes so every single custom ship ends up looking like a lego creation.

In real life, some super cars are not available for purchase to people even if they have the money. You need a certain level of reputation before you can make a purchase.

I think there are other examples that exists as well.

Who tf is Todd

You sound like some 18 year old kid who made some money with Bitcoin ranting on Twitter that they can’t rent a car.

Thats the only stupid thing? The whole game sucks.

Economies are broken by design in these games. Absolutely deliberate design choices, and it sucks.

Instead of level, reputation would have made more sense

A more accurate representation would be “let him buy a plane ticket, but don’t let him fly till his character has the knowledge”. This is basically you trying to cheat in modern day games DESPITE it being intentionally designed to make you work for it. That’s like expecting to have all skills in assassins creed unlocked day one (hopefully you get my point). “Grind” is a term for a reason and Bethesda is definitely one to make you grind.

That and the whole ship building “rules” they have for their are limits to the builds and there can only be one power core along with a ship length limit seriously I thought we were supposed to build to our imaginations content I still barely have any idea how players are able to build such intricate designs in the game’s base rule without mods which I know some do use🤔🤔

Getting money is a bit too easy that’s like saying in elite dangerous there shouldn’t be any ranks in the game to buy ships meaning long as you have money you can jump into end game ships right away. But anyways the point is things need to be rewarding not essentially handed to you because then at that point people would abuse things even more than they already do and then the attention span will get even more worse than what it already is. Because let’s face the facts most people when they have pretty much everything they wanted in the game and done all the shit they wanted to do that’s it they pack up move on to the next window shopping spree. Which they treat their relationships the same way.

The sad part is there are ways to make it have more linear progression without using arbritrary levels. I would believe it if you required a certain level of skill to install a part or had to pay even more money to have someone else do it for you.

Not agree.You need to keep playing the game to unlock more and more.
They know that players will use deferent ways to make a lot of money at low levels so the only way to not “cheat” with this was to be locked by level.

P.S They failed anyway becouse you can find a spot on the planet with iron and aluminium and build tons of storages.Then use the minerals to keep making 99 adaptive frames = 99xp and level up to 100 just like that 😅..

They added difficulties levels by… making larger or smaller HP bags… the laziness of Todd’s team makes me sick, how stupid do they have to be to be hired at Bethesda ? ? Also they added empty structures in the ship building tool, but the main thing that most players asked for: doors placement, wasn’t taken into account… more and more, I’m wondering if they are making the game for us players, or for themselves…. the community asks for a problem to be solved, they do everything except solving this problem… how deep do you want Bethesda’s middle finger to be in our @$$3$ ? Seriously, they don’t give a sh about the community and are completely disconnected from their fan base…

the main menu is the most immersive part of the game

Maybe they knew the ship building is the best part of the game so they dragged it out

I can actually accept the different reactors classes needing skill training. More complicated reactors would very much benefit from someone being properly trained to operate them. The rest of everything with ships being locked to level is….less acceptable.

Who else just stayed for the cat? 😂

lol the game was an utter hot turd and this is what you were mad about?

it was indeed a great idea. sorry to mess up your immersion hahaha. ship parts are just like weapons. if you can wield high level weapons at a low level, then ship parts would be the same.

If you have a standard drivers license, can you drive a big rig?

Wait so why not complain about that exact same thing happening in every other game??

yeah that shit made me so angry

Because they can’t design an in game economy properly. Never have.

Play Star Citizen

I like how your cat has a floating bed.

That’s how it was in Skyrim. Couldn’t buy deadric swords unless you were the level or had the smithing level, but that game was perfect. I’m sick of people bashing starfield but turning around and meat riding Skyrim

I feel you! I want the tiki 600 bridge to complete my Forward Unto Dawn halo frigate build.

Knowing Todd Howard, it was probably his idea

So, i agree with you, it should be set to vendors on specific planets like it is. Not based on level. BUT, I think its starship design, like your characters understanding of building ships prevents you from being able to put parts on your ships until you become more knowledgable (take more starship design perks) Maybe? Just me throwing out my idea

Is there not a multitude of ways that could make sense? Like regulations? Why can’t there be a system of passing certain space flight regulations in order to access more advanced and capable parts? Like the regulations that exist today with airplanes?

You have something special… yeah… no….

For me the most unimmersive thing is having walk on desert planets, i have the badass spaceship but i don’t have a single shitty vehicle?

To be fair I kinda get it from a gameplay perspective because you wouldn’t want end game level weapons and shields at the start just be grinding some credits but I get the frustration. What I don’t understand is how EVERY vender in the galaxy only has 11 thousand credits to trade with

Isn’t that the same with armor

I agree, I hated that shit when I played.

“If you have the money, you should be able to buy it!” -AnCap

Todd won’t listen. That’s the Bethesda magic.

I think the Lore Reason is that until you are properly trained at piloting, more advanced components would be too advanced for untrained pilots. A lvl 1 pilot who hasnt seen the inside of a cockpit untill today wouldnt be able to fly a massive high class ship. Only small vessles untill they recieve the proper training (level up)

maybe they thought its like selling alcohol to minors. NPC: You look like you cant handle this ship component yet.

This is what you’re bitching about? You have no problem that certain guns and armor cost the same as a ship engine? Just to be clear, THAT makes sense, but character level doesn’t? Please…

Man, delete this junk already, play it once and forget about it.

Unleveled ship parts mod, best mod out there to fix this particular issue.

the build system is crap anyway

It’s not hard to level up bro, stop crying

It makes sense. Having the best ship at level 1 is dumb. Just in real life. I can go buy a fuckin private jet if I have the cash. But I’m not qualified to fly it.

agreed

Dude is complaining about a feature that literally every game with a levelling mechanic has.

if it was just tied to character level, or just tied to the ship parts perk, it would be fine, but having both certainly feels odd.

Starfield hate is cringe. Blocked.

Also once you buy it… it should go into your own “storage” so don’t have to keep buying it. sp if you bought 3 habs you have those 3 habs in any ship vendor.

Honestly, I don’t think there’s anyone in Todd’s inner circle that’s questioning his choices, and I think the yes-men he’s surrounded himself with are people that are just telling him what he wants to hear… and anyone who would tell him different gets gotten rid of.

Frankly, I think Todd agrees with all of this, and if you were going to get rid of the person that locked it this way, Todd would just put another person just like them in that spot.

Howard has been in his ivory tower for far too long to ever change; Bethesda, and any game IP associated with them, will never get better until Todd’s removed, or the company goes bust and a company willing to do the hard work to make a truly good game buys it in the auction sale.

If this is the thing that makes you un-immersive in this game then my god you should take that as a win this game is sht. How about loading every time you move?