if they shit out a game using the same outdating fucking engine it will be my last Bethesda game i know that much they need to evolve with the times or fuckin sell the IP

Microsoft will shut Bethesda down

Tbf starfield and 76 arnt even mid.

If ES6 is mid then it would be ok. Better a mid game than a just… Whatever those 2 were.

Ubisoft has been consistently delivering mid games for well over a decade and they aren’t going anywhere.

it will be a lot worse than you realise. You can’t have in the same sentence. “One of the most anticipated games of all time” and then “I dont think much happens.” If it fails lol

Elder scrolls 6 will determine whether or not I even bother gaming anymore

They lose fans and get more bad PR yet when the following game comes around everyone will still buy it. BGS is sadly too big to fail now cuz pf the casual

I think if they fuck up The Elder Scrolls VI, I’ll fall into a deep depression. All I’ve wanted since 2011 is a new Elder Scrolls… I only had to wait 6(?) years for Skyrim.

The problem is online and procedural generation
If TES6 fails without that Bethesda is done

They already lost me

“It’s a Bethesda game, what were you expecting?”

Bethesda hasn’t gotten any worse than it ever was. Skyrim was a new and highly unique experience when it released and happened to be a fantastic game.
Since then, I think Bethesda has suffered a crisis of confidence in their games that causes them to try and oversell because they really hit the peak with skyrim and its hard to top.
I think Bethesda need to have more confidence. They need to focus on the writing and single-player story experience, and they need to keep their settings manageable.
I saw an interview with Todd where he looked surprised that people liked the Fallout TV show. That, to me, says they are sort of always expecting to fail these days, and it’s a real shame because I do think they are talented and capable of great things when they do it right.

I don’t know when this uploaded, if es6 fail GG bfs

Skyrim was the last good game they did elder scrolls 6 is their last hope

Nothing will happen. People get mad for like 4 weeks and then they move on. BGS will sell enough to break even or make a profit and will regard that as a win.

Dam shame they wont move to a more stable engine or something for this i lost all hope when starfield was mid as well lucky i didnt buy into that game

I have no doubt in my heart that es6 will be DOG SHIT and an unplayable mess on launch

They’ll just re-release skyrim for the 14th time on the ps1 or something

With Microsoft owning it Bethesda will be closed 100% if es6 fails

I liked starfield. There were problems with it (Ending, lack of good side content, bad maps, and too many planets), but I think it was good overall.

Well we need to define what “failure” is. Simply being mediocre but making decent money might not be considered a failure by corporate

BGS didn’t let its core fans down…only the ppl who are new to the studio…all the fans they gained from Skyrim. Most of us OG BGS fans know what we’re getting from them

Fallout 76 now is better than Starfield as a whole imo

Game development takes entirely too long, and listening to people in the industry I can only be lead to think it’s because every decision has to run through waves of people before anything can get done. These companies really need to downsize or reorganize (and hire better writers).

Bethesda needs to go back to having a central design document because having Emil and random level designers write and having wildly different levels of wuality and tone in the quest design, writing and world building isn’t working.

If Elders Scrolls fails, Bethesda is not going to be shut down. The ones to recieve the boot are probably going to be Todd and Emil.
🤞Fingers crossed🤞

Scrolls has better lore. The gameplay just needs to be competent

I don’t fully get why defending a bad game is such a bad thing. We know it is bad, but we still love it. We aren’t all blindly following the game because of the developers. We defend it because we genuinely love it whether it is bad or not.

They don’t give a s***they’re literally owned by Xbox Daddy😂😂 there forever safe they can literally make dog s***and nothing will happen😂😂

i Don’t respect

At least 76 was a dumpster fire with friends starfield has basic mechanics missing

The truth is bethesda has always produced mid to bad games.
ES6 will flop in every metric bar sales

Look at Marvel. They continue ro release pure trash

ES6 is going to be the most mid game ever but Bethesda fans will eat it right up and the sales numbers will keep them afloat. It is going to look and play EXTREMELY similar to Skyrim and they will rerelease it on 1000 different things like they did with Skyrim. They will then release another 2-3 dog shit games and then release another Fallout game that will be EXTREMELY similar to Fallout 4 and the cycle will repeat ad nauseam.

The Elder Scrolls is their masterpiece. If they mess that up, it’ll almost certainly be over for them

It’s different now that daddy Microsoft will close a studio if profit is 1% less than expected.

Fallout 76 at least can be a little fun with friends, Starfield is just starfield

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Who would’ve thought BGS would ever produce anything but the most immersive and detailed open worlds. But here we are.

Why play elder scrolls 6? Skyrim mods will just take whatever es6 is and remake it but better.

Problem is that the people who made Skyrim are no longer there.
It is time to set new expectations, Bethesda is too big to take risk’s. It must be safe now, no more quest’s to kill a priest in the name of a dark god, no more civil war where you can pick any side, no more morally grey killing Paarthunax who helped you kill Alduin, And most definitely no more becoming an evil vampire.

Fallout 76 and starfield are equally horrible and useless.

I would love to have the actual numbers of how many people played Bethesda games in the 2000s and early 2010s versus how many new people have played them for the first time recently.

Call me biased, but I think the majority of people saying Skyrim was mid for example just weren’t around when it first came out. Yes if I handed someone in 2024 who never played a video game Skyrim and cyberpunk, I’d put my money on cyberpunk being the game they preferred. But when Skyrim came out originally, the majority of people who played it were amazed by what the game was.

I’m definitely not going to defend 76 or Starfield because those games are much more modern and comparable to newer titles and had their own fuck ups in design, but people saying “oh Skyrim is mid and boring, oh fallout 3 is empty and clunky, oh oblivion looks like playdo” I believe are those that went back to play these classics versus actually being there when they came out

I will not be forgiving if ES6 is trash. I won’t play BGS games anymore if this game is anything less than perfect.

It’s taken me a while but I finally have accepted that Fallout 5 will be total crap.

There needs to be a study on Bethesda fanboys…it’s bordering psychosis 😂

I’m not even thinking to heavily on ES6 thinking more about ES4 remaster.

I don’t have high hopes for ES6 anymore. The long wait and with BGS’s track record, it just feels like ES6 would mechanically feel like a decade old by the time it comes out just based on how Starfield turned out.

Me vibing to skellige music❤

They have MS as a sugar daddy.. they don’t have to make anything worth wild anymore.

Their two best games, Morrowind and FO: NV (wasnt even Bethesda but lets pretend) are both extremely old now. They haven’t been a good studio for longer than people realize.

I would be surprised if they don’t fuck it up.

I think Microsoft closes them and makes a new team. Just like they did with Lionhead, we’ve already seen BGS old guard starting to fall. I compare it to Bioware. Starfield and 76 are equal to Anthem and Mass Effect Andromeda. At this point I’m not pre-ordering anymore and waiting on reviews. I’ll definitely play the next Bioware and Bethesda games, but I’ll buy it on a sale, opposed to pre-ordering special editions like I’ve done in the past.

If Bethesda uses that pile of trash Creation Engine on ES6, you can guarantee that it will fail.

Does this chanel anything more then hating things?

“Not expecting much” They have hyped the prospect for so long, and the development is going and the game is set for 2026 and they’ve had a long time to think about it, I’m expecting the moon, I’m not tuning down my expectations for something that they’ve had so long to think about since 2011, if they fail then that’s pretty much another big nail in the coffin for gaming

Its up to us to keep on them and keep interacting with forums, social media etc and keep giving them feedback. An early interactive beta would be great for polishing and feedback.

I really think they boxed themselves in with how good Skyrim and fallout 3-4 were and the trajectory people really thought it was only up and now they’re realizing it’s not.

I genuinely think the elder scrolls fanbase is so desperate for elder scrolls 6 that if they sold a game that was the exact same quality as Skyrim but in a different part of Tamriel it would sell like hotcakes

I don’t think ES6 will fail. The Elder Scrolls games have progressively got better, whilst Fallout has been hit and miss throughout the series. Starfield was their attempt at something even bigger but ultimately that turned out to be one of its biggest downfalls….its just too damn big.

The lesson to be learned with starfield is if the game isnt 100% finished push the release back. If the gamecgad been delivered including the most recent update. It still would not be an industry changing great game but it would have been much better and the reviews would not have suffered as much. You can uodate and add all you like but if you have already made a bad impression most of those people are not going to give you a 2nd chance.

I disagree, the big fans of BGS are probably because of Skyrim and have hope for the next instalment. If thst is bad i think they loose close to all of their fans. I cant see people really defending them if the game is shite

Naw man, If ES6 is bad they are a dead company. This is maybe the most anticipated game of all time next to gta6

Expect the next elder scrolls to be like fallout 76. No npcs at launch. You cannot walk on that mountain. Loading screen simulator. Absolute dumpster fire. Launch 2045.

if they focus on procedural bs then id start guessing

16X less the expectations

3. You forgot ESO (Elder Scrolls Online) which is a different branch, but the same intellectual property and mother company.

What a crappy gaming and client/producer experience that was these past few years.

Crappy being an understatement.

If ES6 doesn’t resonate or propose something new, interesting and not based on industry trends or other games…well they’ll probably lose the 35-50 + y/o gamers.

We’ve been used to better and newer generations should expect the same experience we had, but knowing and taking into consideration that almost 20 years have past since Oblivion’s release.

Lol fucking desert bus is a better game than starfield who are you kidding.

I didn’t mind fallout 4. Even though it didn’t have the same RPG aspects, i thought it was still fun.
It definitely could have been better, but it was still a fun game.

If ES6 doesn’t pan out or ends up like fallout 76 or starfield I think i’ll be giving up all hope for future bethesda titles.

If it fails, then they might get a last chance warning. If they fall short on Fallout 5… either major shakeup or outright closing down Bethesda.

es5 was amazing for its time and continues to have a huge player base over a decade after it’s launch not to mention eso is still alive and well and there aren’t many bad things to say about it and plus they’ve been working on es6 longer than any recent game they’ve made, the game will at the very least be a decent game

Starfield would have been fine if it wasn’t for all the loading screens you have to go through to go from one place to another. they could just take the spaceship flying and traveling out of the game and it would improve the game drastically.

Im sad Bethesda is now an exclusive of Microsoft and I can’t play any upcoming games I’ve spent years waiting for(unless they release them for PlayStation somehow one day) I remember my friends and I reading about Starfield years ago, back when we were playing New Vegas. The idea of a fallout like game was going to be coming out had me so excited. I was crushed when it finally came around and I couldn’t play. Less crushed after seeing that it really didn’t live up to those years or anticipation, but still crushed.

Dont pre order, dont give them your money till the game is fixed and cheaper

The thing is Starfield and 76 were still successful in all metrics, yes we have an impression of these games but Starfield was still successful especially for a single player game that launched day one in Gamepass

ESO 6 is going to be sub par or the same that we’ve seen. No new addition, nothing like the old ESO’s. Just milk toast corpo recycled bs. I have zero trust in any corporations

Chopping block

I rather have a normal sized map full of lore,life and graphic performing than a Starfield Kind.And expand territort with DLCs,its one of that games that actually DLCs will get much hype

Since starfield was LITERALLY unplayable on my system (due to crashing, it wasnt driver related but some obscure ryzen cpu related) I have 0 hope for ES6 and don’t even look forward to it. Bethesda is dead imo.

What I enjoy is all the people who constantly hate on Bethesda, but they still talk about Bethesda games all the time too.

Make up your mind, you either hate Bethesda and don’t want to play their games, or you like Bethesda and you want to play their games.

It’s checkers, not chess.

What are my expectations? Low af

The “Bethesda” hate all boils down to just people comparing their new games to Fallout 3/NV and Oblivion/Skyrim, but there will probably never be another set of games that groundbreaking. If people stopped comparing their new games to their old games, the only titles released in the last few years that compare are Cyberpunk (whhch was also a buggy mess) and RDR2. Bethesda 2008-2013 was a perfect storm, and that might not EVER happen again. Yes, 4 had a family friendly feel with the character being married and having a baby, and unrealistic looking guns to avoid school shootings scrutiny and that didn’t click with the children gamers and angry unloved West Coast basement dwellers who preferred NV, buy that doesn’t make it “not an RPG” (whatever the hell that means). The Bethesda haters today are just the anti mainstreamers who always hate whatever’s at the top, like the basketball fans who hated MJ in the 90’s who realized after Kobe and LeBron came along that he just was. They need to stop being haters, and click baiters like you need to quit cashing in on them. 76 wasn’t meant to he another Fallout 3/NV/4, it was something different that didn’t work as well. It happens. Starfield was not Skyrim, but o ky Skyrim can be Skyrim.

Realistically, there’s no way ES6 isn’t a financial success. It could be dog water and it will sell well, the build has been so long that people aren’t going to bail on the 5 yard line and at the last minute decide not to buy it.

However, it’ll be the last game to carry that kind of good will if it’s seen as a bad game. The next generation of BGS games after that will all have the history of modern day BGS issues, so assumed sales go out the window.

A bad ES6 won’t mean much for Bethesda at the time regardless, but it will mean a lot for any game after it.

I can honestly say that if es6 fails(it will), I hope Bethesda ends up having to close its doors behind that, and Emil pagliarulo can get the job he deserves as an amateur writer, and Todd as a used car salesman

The problem here is BGS wad always a mid tier game developer. Skyrim was a mid game that just happened to Rocket in the industry at the time propelling them to a status on the highest pedestal with the likes of CDPR (at the time) and Rockstar.
But the company never changed they themselves never elevated their work or their standard which is why Falliut 4, 76 and Starfield all been GOOD games, but haven’t been GREAT games like people hold Skyrim to, to this day.

If TES 6 is bad, there will be blood.

Bethesda has itself in a pickle as a studio. Skyrim and Fallouts 3, NV, and 4 are such legendary games despite their flaws that many fans have placed unrealistic expectations on the studio to always bat 1000. Thus, every title, no matter how good it is, will fall short of those expectations. Many gaming and movie studios have similarly become victims of their own success. That is why every AAA game recently feels bland, bloated or worse exploitive.

I fully expect it to not come out now.

Personaly i liked fallout 76 and starfield.

ES6 will be flop of the century

I dont see a world where they continue to use the creation engine ‘2.0’ for ES6 and the game would even feel like an acceptable experience for people.

If ES6 can be a bigger and more polished Oblivion/Skyrim then I think they’ll do just fine.

I just expect skyrim 2.0 on a less snowy map basically

Two in a row?! TWO?! You think Fallout 4 was a good game?! My god…

If ES6 is MID… it will be the highest achievement from Bethesda. The game would be GOTY instantly and everyone would get 2x crazy! Imagine that… Bethesda game that reached MID level , insane accomplishment!

What if they skimped on starfield to make es 6 even cooler looking? i wouldnt put it past anyone

I completely lost faith in BGS but mostly Todd Howard. Everything the man has ever touched has either been mid or outright failed at launch. Going all the way back to the first time he was the lead director on an Elder Scrolls spin-off title. It flopped hard and he’s been on that losing streak since. People could argue that Fallout 3 and 4 were wins for him but the fact is, Fallout was stolen in a courtroom by BGS. As far as original IP goes, Todd has always sort of dropped the ball. The only thing they continue to do is fail at the start, then fix things over the course of a decade through game breaking updates until they land on a stable version. TES 6 will be no different. Quote my ass on that.

I know that Fallout 4 divides opinions more strongly, yes. But a fair amount of BGS players, and especially long-time Fallout fans, think it’s pretty wank. So after Skyrim, there is nothing that the vast majority of target audience love. And one catastrophe.

Wouldn’t it be crazy if they pulled a Red Dead 2 move. Where the game and it’s mechanics are just insane because they’ve had so much time to make it. But it’s also Beth Soft. So that’s highly unlikely. I want to like Todd. He just needs to produce another great game.

ES6 is not the most anticipated game of all time 😂

It’s fucking GTA6

You either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Rest in peace to an era.

I just wish they would understand that is what’s holding them back is their defense of their engine. If they would step back to a storyteller and let someone take the helm on a new engine and programming development, they could come back.

At this point theyve just been patching the same engine for 2 decades, and thats been taking up so much of their time.

It’s gonna be the same thing. The fans will do the “Overwhelming Positive” reviews and then the other casual fans tries it and then probably get Mixed Reviews. Before that, Todd Howard is just gonna lie again to get everyone to buy the game and everyone is gonna fall for it. It happened for Fallout76, it happened with Starfield and now it’ll happen with ES6. I’m not surprised because it’s THEIR fans. I don’t expect much…

Lil Todd will probably get the axe if ES6 doesn’t hit the metrics

I am expecting ES6 to be the safest, most sanitary release in video game history, and it will be a massive failure because of it. Unless some other AAA studio does it first and swings the pendulum back in the right direction, ES6 is doomed.

I have GTA6 on my radar for being that game, but I’m sure that the hype and inevitable success for GTA6 Online is going to smother the hate that the story will get because Fortnite kids don’t care about a well written story.

Actually they fumbled THREE times in a row, including fallout 4, it was buggy and didn’t live up to ppls expectations while also dumbing down the rpg elements of fallout

Fallout 4 is their least worst fumble, starfield is their second and 76, of course, the worst of them all

They are updating all 3 games currently, so yeah all 3 games are way better atm, but of course im talking post launch

First if all es 6 better be better than es oblivion or im done with them because Skyrim was not better.

The only thing that makes me sad is that there is people that will pardon BGS for any bullshit they sell and that is soooo bad for the gaming community like that only teach Triple A companies that if you have a fandom they can sell toiletpaper as a game and they will buy it

I think the biggest issue (besides writing) is that they keep making the game bigger. If they spent a lot more time on ES6 and made the map only about the size of Skyrim’s or Oblivion’s, they could put a lot more focus on making the areas look better and less empty. That would also allow them to focus more on making the gameplay better.

The blind idiot fanbois will defend it no matter how bad it is lmao

BGS is in a really bad spot. The hype is pure Skyrim nostalgia. You can’t replicate nostalgia. And you can’t top Skyrim. I honestly feel bad because those are the two things we expect from them. I mean come on guys the first 150 hours of Starfield was awesome we hate it because we couldn’t put 2000 hours in it like Skyrim
We will never have that again. Now this doesn’t excuse Starfield feeling like it’s a 10 year old game. It feels that way because it’s the same engine Skyrim was made on. Evolve Bethesda!

Starfield was so close. I want to finish the game so badly but I am on my third playthrough ruined by a glitch and I just literally can’t do it again. I loved that game wholly

I’m kinda getting tired of how hard this guy tries to stay on the sidelines and never actually gives his opinion you can literally always hear in his voice that he constantly restricts his opinion against bad studios and games as if he has a gun pointed at him. He understates literally everything as safely as possible.

Did you like starfield? Then you will like TES 6. Do you expect a cutting edge game that will set the bar of modern RPGs like TES 3/4/5? You will be sad.

its not what if they will fail. its how badly they will fail.

BGS can do nothing wrong, you’re just haters

lmao my expectations for ES6 are none. I don’t even expect it to release. It could! But I’m not even putting the level of “I expect them to finish the game” on them.

The deeper question is, how many of us care at this point?

That’s sad to hear, a game possibly being received well just because the bar was lowered.

Is the shit gonna work and not be boring??? That’s the question

If it fails I’ll just wait 6 months for mod authors to make it better and fix it

The only thing good about FALLOUT 4 is the settlement building. I like that pipe guns are in the game, but they shouldn’t be as popular as every gun is a pipe gun. The combat rifle looks exactly like the combat shot gun, garbage. The assualt rifle looks like a Lewis MG melding into pipe rifle, also garbage. And the 10mm pistol? I know it’s lore but this pistol sucks. The armor is ok-ish, thats all I’m gonna say about that.
What gets me is they didn’t put any realistic weapons in the game. Thats out of the cost to the licenses they would have to pay for if their guns looked like real guns.

Don’t worry. They’ll just close down studios like Arkane, id, and MachineGames to cover the losses of ES6.

They will get an Ubisoft treatment. Ubisoft had been releasing low-mid tier games for so many years. Now, nothing they make is positively received. Positively received all too well I mean. I don’t see a single person being excited for any Ubisoft title rn.

So yeah, same thing.

“It’s a bethesda game” you don’t get it????? I wonder how that worked for starfield

Can’t wait for a mod team to make Oblivion and Skyrim in ES6 engine!!

Fallout 76 ended up being a win in the long run for Bethesda.

Es6 is gona be reskinned es5.

My heart tells me it will be bad

Honestly I think it will be really good. Maybe not top notch perfect. Only reason being is the creation engine. It’s old and outdated. Who knows maybe they’ll have some huge upgrades to the engine and it’ll be different in some ways but if it’s just copy paste skyrim it’s ganna suck balls. Not that skyrim is bad. I’m actually playing it right now but with animation and graphics mods. The only games they’ve really done bad on are new IPs. 76 isn’t really a new IP but it’s something they’ve never done before and we’ll starfield is you know empty.

The difference is, this is gonna be a mainline title FOR THEIR ORIGINAL IP. I’m sorry but your take that “nothing will happen because nothing happened with 76 and starfield” is laughable at best. I think if es6 fails bethesda will never recover from their “joke status” as a company now. Mind you this is coming from someone who used to call him Godd Howard and genuinely believed he could do no wrong. Though as of the past decade, wrong is all they’ve done (except the FO show, I really liked that)

As long as they keep using the gamebryo engine + duct tape called the Creation Engine, their games are going to continue to be lambasted. It’s the same game with a different skin, but all the same bugs and glitches that they haven’t patched in over a decade.

I was defending Bethesda for years but The last great Bethesda titles were Skyrim and new vegas (which was all obsidian) . Fallout 4 was fun don’t get me wrong but it was just a random shooter game with a fallout skin. The rpg aspect was terrible.

Skyrim was great , but how long ago was that released ,13 years ago ? They’re out of time to win me back tbh.

It’s baffling to me that anyone can look at BGS performance over the last decade and have even a shred of hope that ES6 is good. Being mid is a BEST case for ES6. That’s the ceiling with the staff and management at BGS.

My expectations for anything Bethesda makes begins in the toilet and I’m rarely disappointed

I think if they can keep the core of what makes elder scrolls great and move past the creation engine then it very well could live up to high expectations.

If it does suck the only correct act is to can the studio and give their ips to a studio that isnt mediocre and can actually make the games of that ip that doesnt take 10 years between each game. Bethesda is skilless, washed up hasbeens and it shows so clearly. Its crazy to see a studio not get with the times and still thinks their game design is good enough for the modern day when its not even good enough for 2012! Bgs is really pathetic and so is Todd Howard who basically is a 1 trick pony and is living off their past achievements. I have zero hope for es6 which breaks my heart bc skyrim was my favorite game before cyberpunk 2077 but them using the creation engine STILL!!! blows my mind!!! RIP bgs no one is gonna mourn you besides matty lmao!!

they’re too big to not make money off their games no matter how messed up they are off the gate. And now that we’ve normalized the whole “here’s a fucked up incomplete game, complain now and we’ll make it better in a year and you’ll give us a 5* review” deal, it’s all smooth sailing for them

76 was an instant delete. Game still has the same bugs and i dont see the hype.

Honestly the fact they still have emil as head writer doesnt give me much faith. The guys been directly involved with the worst Bethesda games in recent years.

If they ruin Fallout 5 and ES6, I’m going to be soooooo bummed out!!

elder scrolls 6 will be another elder scrolls game. it will probably sell well. I hope Bethesda doesn’t stain the working formula with their own “innovations”. Like no random generation Bethesda, you’re bad at it

I just hope that their failures lead to learning. In my opinion they need to drop the Creation Engine and move on.

I think if ES6 bombs I’ll just never play a BGS game again.

uh no the expectations aren’t dropping when the 3 heads of XBox are depending on you for blockbusters to save them from Nadella’s wrath.
Like I have said recently I believe the 3 need blockbusters and Bethesda can do it although as you said they have had 2 failures recently. The Fallout tv show along with the increased interest by casuals in the fallout franchise give XBox an opportunity it would be criminal to ignore. So I believe Todd has already been given more money and more studios to get Fallout 5 and ESVI out the door a lot sooner than expected. So it’s not the fanboys but the XBOX hierarchy who has those expectations.

Fallout 76 and Starfield did come out disappointing to say the least, but elder scrolls six has taken so long to make and is so loved that if it comes out a hot mess that will be the last nail in the coffin.

Elder scrolls is to big of a franchise, even if it’s bad or mid, that game is gonna sell like nuts

10X loading screens!! 10X bugs and most importantly 2X the price

Jesus loves y’all!

That would be it

The end of a great company

You can only fuck up so many times

And considering how it’s like, one after the other, with seemingly no room for improvement or noting what should be improved

It’s not looking good, I’m beyond scared for the game to eventually come out

Expecting 4 more skyrims before es6

76 looking like gold compared to starfield now 😂

ES6 just needs to be a solid sandbox. Same with F5. If they have bad launches I think Microsoft will punish them in some form or another. You can’t go a decade failing expectations and expect to shrug it off when you have owners looking over your work. I believe they’d get downsized and have to work with another studio on future projects. Microsoft won’t throw away the name unless it’s tarnished beyond use.

personally: I if it’s bad I don’t think it will be explosively bad

I think (if the game is bad) that someone worse will happen
Total apathy towards bethesda from the majority of players.

For ESO6 to succeed Bethesda needs better writing and better leadership (and a better engine), if none of those things happen, we’ll just have the same quality we’ve been getting since FO4, quality that has been declining imo

Personally, I feel like ES6 will be the last Bethesda product I play. I love TES too much to skip trying it, but I didn’t touch 76 at all as I waited to see how it was received first, and didn’t even have interest in Starfield after seeing gameplay. However, I feel like ES6 is going to flop in similar ways their previous titles did and, while I will play it, I don’t think it’ll be good enough that I’ll have interest in ES7 if we ever see one. Not without major changes to their company.

They get shut down

Bethesda game studios Austin made 76.

It’s going to be dogshit

FO 76 flopping barely counts though. It was a low effort assest flip of FO 4. A game with virtually no stakes, effort, or expectations on the line flopping isn’t even close to the disaster that would be a main line Elder Scrolls game failing. Even for Starfield it didn’t have a franchise to live up to. They can (and hopefully will) just let the Starfield IP fade into obscurity and ultimately no one will care. I think you’re underselling how disasterous a mainline ES flop would be.

76 is enjoyable and starfield lacks any clear identity. 76 was terrible at realease but especially when nuclear winter was in the game it was actually really fun. If you can look past the fallout 1st subscription cost then having private server with 3 friends is so fun. Me and my buddies used to do map spanning 2v2s fighting over the different outposts and setting up turrets and traps at them. We would pick a special item and the goal would be to destroy that (usually a statue or something) qnd take over the workbench. We would get notifications for the work bench but not the statue so they could either kill the statue first if we didnt protect it good enough, or hit the workbench first to deactivate traps and risk us fast traveling in before they take it.

I disagree, Elder Scrolls 6 is a significantly bigger deal than FO76 or Starfield, fumbling ES6 would make even most fanboys give up on the studio

I’d tend to disagree. This is all based purely on feelings and not so many facts, so be forewarned.
I think if Elder Scrolls 6 isn’t received well it actually will have a MASSIVE impact on how the gaming community sees Bethesda. I think it will actually be a final nail in the coffin in a sense.

The way I see things:
It’s safe to say people expect a lot out of ES6. Fallout 4 shook some of the fans’ good will. Fallout 76 obliterated A LOT of it, and even troubled a lot of the hardcore fans.

Starfield has grown to be known as mid, but for those fans that were on the edge, it was enough for them to say they got their money’s worth until the next big title comes out.
I think ES6 is just the game any Bethesda fans remaining have been looking forward to since the release of Fallout 4. If it’s mid, what is there to look forward to? Fallout 5?
Maybe, but it will mean an ES7 won’t release til some of their biggest fans are literally retired, or even dead… ES6 needs to be generation defining or Bethesda is going to be put on the back of the shelf and forgotten for a long period of time. Now that they’re owned by Microsoft, who knows if the studio will even survive if ES6 flops.

I love Bethesda, I’ve been a fan since I first played their games back when I was like 5, but personally I wouldn’t buy any more of their games when they release, I’d rather wait to see how the game actually is or just play it on gamepass

It will have a season pass

They didn’t live up to fan expectations, but the sales were there nonetheless

ES6 is gonna be mid-mildly good. The big issue is the utter lack of innovation and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Like it’s bad when you’re leaning on the fans to love your buggy games when in 2024 there just should not be a crazy amount of bugs to begin with

I think the difference if ES6 fails is that it’d be the third of their 3 IP to get a bad installment in a row, and it’s specifically the one everyone has been saying “give up on ____ early and just make ES6 already”.

In other words, it is the hope that Bethesda fans have been holding on to…

I remember a lot of people were disappointed with fallout 4 when it came out too especially when they compared it to new vegas and people still by Bethesda titles

I don’t think ES6 will be bad, but if it’s below average like starfield, nothing will change. Some people will hate on it, some will defend it, but it’ll sell tens of millions of copies and like will move on