I guess my first thought is: who is still playing this dog crap? Second thought: evolution of horse armor. Bethesda has been creeping this way for decades, hoping the frog in the pot model will allow them to get away with it. Don’t buy new games or mods from them. Don’t support it via the pass system, either. There are better games and companies to invest in.

300 credits is no joke either, that’s like $7 real money

Achievements and mods are a sticky issue. You can get mods that let you get all achievements instantly in some games. They are not achievements then! BUT… charging for an achievement friendly tag or whatever is just a different horrible beast altogether.

Bethesda find themselves in the same boat with Starfield as Hello Games and CDPR were in for NMS and Cyberpunk. Hyped games with bad receptions on launch.

But HG and CDPR knuckled down and fixed their games over time to become successes, while Bethesda show no intention of doing the same.

What’s particularly frustrating is that Bethesda have a community made solution sat right in front of them. They could integrate the best mods from the creation club into a 2.0 update of the game and pay each modder a fair amount for their trouble, and it would still be a lot cheaper than the work HG and CDPR had to put in.

But Bethesda wont do that because they are the shortest sighted company in gaming right now.

The last mega hit they released was skyrim in 2011. that is over 13 years ago. Most of the team that worked on the game is gone, and they released the creation club since then as well. Their last 2 games were mid at best (and down right broken on launch with FO76). Their response to starfield steam reviews was downright desperate. Their last DLC charged as much as phatom liberty but delivered about 1/6th of the content. I will stop now, but can go on for a solid page or 2 yet.

Temper your expectations for Elder scrolls 6. Their glory days are behind them at this point.

Don’t want to pay, than Don’t!

It’s really simple. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Dogshit game from a now dogshit company doing scummy things? WOW SHOCKING. Bethesda has been having issues since skyrim but people sucked them off nonstop and they got egos. Also the modders make money and thats fine but bethesda takes like 75% i think, its ridiculous

Bethesda sucks so bad that a headache is the only experience they can give their customer base

You don’t need achievements. Games, a very long time ago didn’t need achievements, you played the game, made progress, won or died and did it again because the gameplay was fun to do… just grinding achievements to ‘platinum’ a boring game, or paying through the nose to have a list of chores (which often spoil the plot/surprises) is wack.

Solution is simple don’t buy their games. As long as they have record sales each launch nothing will change.

> imagine paying for Starfield…
> imagine paying for Starfield mods…
12 hours of non stop CBT and BME Pain Olympics sounds more like a good time than playing Slopfield.

hahahahahha are you really that shocked by this lol

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I’m convinced that anybody who isn’t fed up with the same old outdated creation engine “RPG” from Bethesda has simply never played one by another dev.
Cyberpunk was a buggy mess at launch but you can’t tell me it feelt like the same old shit from 2011 like everything Bethesda does.
I’m sick of playing “Oblivion” and “Oblivion with guns” and now “Oblivion with guns in space”

I always thought it was so weird and clueless that Skyrim got such a long shelf life by modders, amongst other thing, fixing their stuff. Instead of stepping back and being astounded and grateful how much more money Bethesda made over the long haul because of the modders’ unpaid efforts they tried to capitalize the mods themselves. If you want to mark a specific point where they began to decline that would be as good a point as any. Any loyalty that I might have had died a long time ago. Monetize THAT Bethesda!

and people are trying to say the rumored oblivion remaster or remake will be better than skyblivion if bethesda is doing this crap then imagine what they are going to do with one of their new game i wouldn’t be surprised that they would not have free mod support all together or even worse will pull a activision and send a dmca the day the mod releases even though they gave their blessing just in fear of losing money and that skyblivion would hurt the sales of it i tell you now if they were to take down skyblivion over that they would never get another cent out of me period and i would say anyone who is reading this should too show them that their business practices actually gets them less money than more

Really simple answer…don’t give them your money.

Everyone’s really going to be looking forward (far far forward 🔮) to Fallout 5 now 😼
Of course developers can’t make mods for everything imaginable in a game, and it WAS amusing that Bethesda has moders fixing Bethesda’s game bugs 👾❌ but yeah, Bethesda monetizing on moders by forcing paid mods shows a UUGE lack of creativity and a BIGLY corpo greed mentality 🤑
14:27 “owned by Microsoft” oh hey, how about in game ads ? 😇

Mod mafia, how low of them.

Easy solution. Ready? Dont use mods. Because in a year or 2 if they release the best thing ever you wil be buying it dont lie and say you wont. Westerners LOVVVVVVVVVVVVE to consooooooooooooooooom those digital goods, not owning anything and not being happy

It’s impressive you still care enough about Bethesda to spend this much emotional energy on it.

Bethesda got a look at their neighbors in Minecraft Bedrock, and then realized that screwing over their customers is not only encouraged, it’s the Norm.

ES6 is cooked my dudes

Yeah Bethesda is so effed. Nice of them to make it easy to say never again.

If no one has heard about this, it’s only because Bethesda is a joke and nobody cares about them or their games anymore.

So are console players only able to exclusively mod in mods that are paid or can they use non paid mods and just not worry about achievements?

What got me was they were only releasing access to Creation Kit documentation to those in the Verified Creators program, this made actually using the ck and it’s new features a bigger headache than it needed to be (I got tips and stuff from other mod authors but it’s so much easier to have the actual documentation), I figure I’ll wait until this changes to mod it again (but I have been having too much fun in other games to drag myself back to be honest).

modders are new bethesda
im waiting for skyblivion xD

Even though I never played Starfailed, this sucks. I only have a lower mid tier laptop from 10 years ago. I will stick to my Skyrim with a few mods that I have downloaded years ago. Thank you.

Bethesda is the new Bungie.

sleeping to save is crazy

I enjoyed Starfield for about 60-70 hours, I really liked the ship builder as well but I have left Starfield behind and do not plan to revisit it. Unlike Skyrim Starfield has a very limited shelf life and I do not think this can change based on the core game mechanics. So yes it was good but not worth a replay imo and I don’t really care about mods for it like I do with Skyrim

Color me surprised.

There are even CHEATS(!) that are achievement friendly now.

Beth has unlimited greed and sloth

I once had a modder tell me I have no right to criticize the paid Creations system because I didn’t mod to the extent they did. They strawmanned me by saying I just didn’t want modders to get paid for their hard work. The problem isn’t in that, it’s the exploitation and greed of the Creations system itself. And any “verified” mod author, only contributes to the problem by going through the Creations system to get their pay.

I don’t support this kind of grift, but I would point out that it’s been only recently that console players were able to use most mods at all. This has always been one of the tradeoffs of playing beth games on console.

That said, this is penny wise and pound foolish on Beth’s part.

its their own fault still playing and paying for bad game and paid bad mod.
the last bethesda thingy i bought is 10$ fallout 4 with all dlc pack and turn on the read only in appmanifest file to deny the stupid update that keep destroying my modlist/adding creation club.

Their fall from grace has not been a gentle one. If I ever buy another bethesda game it’ll be 90% off.

This was always going to happen their gearing up for all mods to be paid mods for elder scrolls 6 overtime nothing will be free unless it’s under wip ,Bethesda is a disgusting lazy greedy company reliant on its modding community to improve and finish its games if Bethesda believes modders should be paid Bethesda should be paying them not the gamer

I truly have no regrets about stealing this game a while back to try it out. If it proved to be a good game I would’ve bought it in the end. Sadly that wasn’t the case. I must be delusional in thinking they’ll improve it by any means.

if yo ur on pc search on yandex for the paid mods usually someone keeps a google drive up with them all

This should make players want to 100% the game so they can use mods 😂🤷‍♀️

I’m suddenly scared about the future of TES6…

The most gready and lazy company and star field is also one boring game

A bit of history MJ.
The most modded game in the history of gaming is Skyrim (70K + in Nexus)
Todd, the good lier Todd, saw, log ago that, and wnated to cash it (Thus Creation Club), but did not work
So, Todd The Liar, bet all the eggs in the basket and made a whole new game, a really unfinished game for the modders to finish, StarField. (And of course, to cash it, hence your video)

Someone should tell them that “charging 20 bucks per save slot” the Chalkeaters put in their song was not a suggestion

1:08 I would like to take a moment to point out that Achievements are just a weird industrial psychology hack to boost your dopamine doing otherwise boring fetch quests in games etc. People put WAY too much importance on Achievements Popups, you can still do all the same things in a game and play it 100% without an achievement popup, all you have to do is …. form memories about the fun you’ve had playing the game.
Achievements are a digital vanity sticker, and gaming would be healthier without it.

you could not pay me to play bethesda games now. all the crap since skyrim has lead me to stop being a fan once starfield/f76 came out.

I dunno. Once I start modding a game, I don’t care about achievements.

Dont love these institutions or their products. Greed and idealogy more important than innovation for more than just Bethesda but also all major game mod websites featuring the mods.

I play on xbox and if I can have halo things I Will buy it

I think I’m officially done with Bethesda. I’m not buying any more of their games. I no longer care about FO5, TES6, Star Civilian, or Rage. IM DONE. Until Todd Howard is FIRED, I will not buy another Bethesda game.

just beat the game, get all of your achievements then dont bother with the paid mods.

I can’t speak to all of the mods you mentioned, but the “free” versions of some of them are still there, so it’s not like XB users (in my case) HAVE to pay to be able to still use them – but I take the point that it’s more about having to pay for the achievement friendly tag. You kind of just made it sound like we wouldn’t have access to them at all.

So what’s the point of achievements? I was into it on the PS3 but since then I don’t care about it

their going down the same path as Ubisoft and will inevitably die the same way

Let’s stick to skyrim

It’s a rip off sticking with free mods, also lost interest in achievement and packed my Xbox away so long Xbox on pc now👍🇬🇧

If you were still interested in Shartflop before this I really don’t value your opinion honestly

This is an xbox thing as all mods for minecraft on xbox are not free

Im a PC user and a single person player at that, so I could give a flying fcuk about achievement’s. But yes this is the thin end of the wedge, Bethesda have been sh1t for years at this point, relying on modders to fix thier supposedly AA/AAA titles after the fact. I may still buy SF, but only when its dirt cheap and there are some mods to fix ‘most’ of the broken shit on nexusmods.

I’m on PC so it really doesn’t effect me, but in reality it does simply because of the principle of it. Starfield will be my last Bethesda game I will be purchasing.

Just imagine how elder scrolls 6 is gonna be. You’ll pay to have more than a few save games, or after 100 saves is 10 bucks for every 100 saves after that, I know absolutely insane but look we are headed.

What Bethesda has learned is that they can make a shit game and modders will fix it and they do it under the guise of “paying modders” so if they ever get call out they can say “look how much we do for the community” when in reality they are fucking everyone over.

Bethesda is the king of suck 😅

If Bethesda would always hire the unofficial patch makers and pay them a revenue, their games would be completely playable and bug free so quickly.

I also wonder, whats the payout. Does the mod maker get money? Surely they must. How much? Is Bethesda taking the majority of the money? Or the modder who made the content.

The mods are whack too. Fallout universe has nothing to do at all with the normal world, its an entirely different timeline. It’s even branching off from our real timeline, like a early 1980s movie that predicted we will be flying cars in 2015 and we have hoverboards, our reality is pushing the fiction even further into fiction because the closer we get to the timelines, the more obvious it becomes. Hoverboard by 2015? Maybe by the year 5115!

The M249 mod makes at least some sense – as the “old earth squad automatic weapon”, but even then – Bethesdas balancing for auto weapons means Automatic = damage of each bullet reduced by 80%. The Advanced Jaeger has about 90 damage, thats quite a lot. It has about double the damage of a “Advanced AA-99”, and about 20% more firing rate. It also has larger mags… i seen someone have 400 bullets in it, and someone had 9999 bullets in the “magazine”, idk which numbers are accurate, but any ammo count that is larger than the AA-99 is op with this weapon. You are downloading a CHEAT.

I’m waiting for the “Skyrim in Starfield” crossover that adds Nirn with its 2 moons to the universe so people can go full crazy and play Skyrim Fallout and Starfield all in one.

Can’t remember the year but they tried this before with paid mods for fallout 4 and the modding community rejected it. The gamers won that one the only answer is to boycott. The funny part is I’ve seen videos where Todd said he was truly blessed to be where he’s at. What a hypocrite.

I won’t lie. When paid mods were announced I was all for it. Why wouldn’t I be happy for talented modders to get paid for their work, and i was annoyed people were against it. What I didn’t realise is when they would come around. Most of them would be shitty, uninspired and downright scams for them. Yes some of them are cool, but definitely not money worthy. I thought the paid mods would be mods that are very good, high quality and a lot of effort into them. I though bethesda would have a process for paid mods to be quality checked and played to see if they are worth that amount of money, it’s honestly baffling that most paid mods are literally stat changes, asset flips and stupid stuff like that. I was expecting the fact that there would be paid mods would incentivise the best modders to make outstanding mods worthy of being paid. But it turns out I was wrong, and bethesda is completely greedy, and most paid mods are quick buck makers and nothing more.

To be fair, Bethesda’s incompetence is at play here. But I agree this needs to stop. Which I happily do by not buying new Bethesda product. My last purchase was Fallout 4 and it’s DLCs. I never went on the Failout 76 bandwagon, and I was sure to avoid Starfield. I’ll play the early Bethesda games like Fallout and Skyrim, but that’s it. Bethesda of today is dead to me.

It’s not gonna force me to do a damn thing, I don’t give a shit about pointless trophies or achievements.

Why do people care about achievements so much lol? And that was a great rant haha!!

5:45 Ironically, that free Unofficial Starfield Patch mod is made by Arthmoor who actually supports paid mods and doesn’t give a shit about people complaining about paid mods.

While I agree that stance from Bethesda is despicable, the community got it completely backwards.

Want to know how to deal with Bethesda being pieces of shit? Never make your mods paid mods, don’t buy paid mods and stop modding all together and uninstall.
Stop torturing yourself with Starfield. Stop supporting Bethesda by playing their games.

I literally don’t give a sh*t about achievements for any game.

Have you seen the movie Nosferatu 2024? Bethesda is Count Orlok.

Could care less about achievements. But the most paid mods are scams and beth is the worst author of them. They just make games for money not for the sake of making a good game.

they like the rest of buisness like them are ruining the gaming industry, why are they all so greedy

do an achievement playthrough. I have a huge bias tho because i dont care about achievements

Iv always been against paid mods. Creations is paid mods. I have worked on BGS mods since 2017, there’s no difference in a mod and a creation. Also I have watched as skilled modders have quit working on mods they enjoy for free and now only work for other people for money. BGS needs to end all forms of paid mods and update their policies to prohibit people from paying others for help on their mods. Also the constant updates due to creations constantly breaks mods. BGS fell off the cliff with FO4 and are now close to rock bottom.

Free game that probably cost 75 million to make, and people put tens or hundreds of hours into making a mod…. asking for a couple of bucks for all of their time and effort is bad?! Dude we had to make our own pong in order play. Entitled much?! Geez. You’ve made an industry that you will for sure kill. Maybe scale your scathing to be less childlike. Money makes the world go round. Anyone want to make a mod that will allow me to save a color palette of my own? I’ll freaking pay! You can’t even buy a pen for 200 credits (errr $2 in the real world)… geez.

Bethesda lost it’s charm after Fallout 4

I will never give Bethesda another dime. I hope TESVI is on gamepass…

This truly is *vile* behavior.

Everytime I start up Starfield, I suddenly get the urge to turn it off. Within literally 10 seconds. It’s because I realize I’ve done this before. Try and have fun but just end up getting bored

i don’t understand your obsession with achievement’s?
maybe i’m misunderstanding the context in what you are talking about.

Honestly, achievements have never been a big deal to me. They’re essentially just bragging rights for others to see. I don’t give a shit if others see or don’t see my progress in a game.

Bethesda seriously looked at EA and said: ‘Anything you can do, I do better’

Starfield is so boring, not even mods can change that.

They’re too far gone at this point.

bethsda is owned by microsoft ………….

I uninstalled Bethesda games years ago when they tried the creation club scam. Paid mods are against the spirit of modding I’m surprised there is anyone still playing their garbage after al scumbag moves they have made.

Aaaaand this is why I don’t pay for mods, one update and the mod is dead.
Edit: wow this is even worse than I thought … and no I don’t have any hope for their next titles.

IDK this feels like a really limited angle. I personally don’t hate paying for *some* mods. Like with any product, I’ll just use my own discretion to determine if its worth it. I’ve played some great mod projects and I think the blind hatred for paid mods hurts some of the really talented teams and individuals working on the mods. I’ll probably avoid anything like skins, but a voice acted and fun questline or a well modeled and expandable weapon system? Whats so bad about being able to toss the creators a few bucks? Apparently being achievement friendly just means you go through the verified creators program which gets your mod approved. I’d imagine they just make sure its not a blatant exploit. With that in mind, imagine the overhead of going through every single community mod and vetting them for achievements? (theres a reason Larian just blanket disables achievements) Free mods can be pumped out like candy – while a big AAA studio, Bethesda is still a business with people and bills to pay. I also disagree with the sentiment that BGS is letting modders do their work. BGS’s job was to well.. create the entire rest of the game. I get that everyone didn’t like starfield and there are many reasons for that. One being that its not really your typical theme park BGS epic adventure to save the world/you are the chosen one type deal(there is some of that if you want it). Its a much slower paced and chill game that I enjoy relaxing with after work. After taking time to learn the game’s systems, I’ve been enjoying it a ton. I’ve tried out a couple paid creations and so far I’ve been very happy. Why is it evil?

the game made mods it by game studio mods are wastes of money and broke the game codes I never buy mods

Didnt they do the same with Skyrim and FO4?

People are surprised? 😆😂🤣

Bethesda is going to follow the dodo into oblivion and it can’t come too soon. Greed destroys all it touches.

Fun fact

I just tried to suggest making lore friendly mods achievement friendly instead of every paid mod in the official Starfield suggestions channel in the Bethesda discord, it got taken down in less than a second. They seemingly have an auto block on mod achievement suggestions, possibly on mod monetization in general

Less than 2% of mods on creations are paid. Achievements are not leverage, If someone even cares about it, they just play 1st playthru without mods if on console. Expecting Beth to inspect every mod to comply with xbox achievement rules is a cost nobody would consider, verified creators get QC & handling by staff, and are thus officially inspected, which costs money for staff to tend to it.

It took that long for you to come to this conclusion?

Microtransaction Hell, we are here Because of Bethesda.
With horse armor in Oblivion. They open floodgate
Get what happened after this horse armor You heard about this Because of gigantic backlash against horse armor and what happen Bethesda Ignore feedback and they made more of Microtransaction in Oblivion after horse armor
Modern Microtransaction Wasn’t invented by AE , Ubisoft , Act Division But by Bethesda.
And look on fact. Each time People like Todd Howard and emil pagliarulo and few others who are not public personality get more control Over Bethesda Quality is dropping and Become more and more greedy and to point of 4 Well, they get full control and quality Hit a floor and greed is over a 9000.

So let me get this straight, the modders are forced to take money because everybody wants achievements? 🤣😂

The funny thing is this was why i 100% skyrim. And i mean 100% achievement just so i never need worey about mods…then after ingot it something strange happened. I didnt care, i couldn’t summon enough give a shit to mod skyrim. I could find the desire to play skyrim even with the best mod list load orders i could find. By 100% the game and listening to the pod cast the scales dropped. It was thr mods that kept me from seeing the shitty spell verity, the meaningless perk system, crap combat, and most of all the shitty quest and level design.

Before anyone defends it you have a magic quest line with no massive magic. You are a pure built barbarian leading a magic school.

I don’t understand the obsession with achievements. I’m a console player and I’ve never given a single thought to achievements. I don’t care. Never have, never will.

But yeah I’ve thought of Bethesda as a scam company since Fallout 76 released. I’ve never even played Starfield and never will. So I’m guessing that modders can’t choose the price such as 1 cent.

Todd did only half the update on Fallout 4, it was at the time of the Fallout series and it was done to block Fallout London. On the upside, Todd can’t install the store anymore without un-(censored) Fallout 4 and allowing FOLON to be installed, and Todd’s ego just won’t allow that.

Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be an empty map with quests/buildings/encounters/companions costing $10 a pop.

Fun fact: when Fallout 4 was announced, the Season Pass promised all future content for the game for free.

Less fun fact: Bethesda decided that Creation Club content was not part of the Season Pass.

Fun fact: there is a Google Drive folder out there with all Creation Club content for Fallout 4.

So, buy a PC instead of a console. The very fact you bought a console means you have more money than time.

and people still expect good things from elderscrolls 6

The Bethesda you knew and loved is long gone and it isn’t coming back.

Bethesda got high on the microtransactions from 76.

If there will be a Bethesda game in the future that will pique my interest I’m going to pirate it to make up for preordering Starfield at a premium and the disappointment after.

If you care so much about achievements, keep in mind if these were free of the mods you mentioned that were free, someone could easily make an achievement friendly mod that can unlock all achievements instantly or a mod that could do that very quickly. That is why mods probably have to be charged for to get the tags. Also its to prevent people from earning them too quickly on the Xbox Platform most likely for free.

I have no objection to paying for a mod as long as the mod creator got my money. Unfortunately, Bethesda is motivated by money. Cash. Give them all your money NOW!

8 years ago when Bethesda started implementing this bs I was shut down by fan boys and those to ignorant to see the implications of “creations”. Just as they couldn’t see any downside to Microsoft acquiring ZeniMax in 2021, Xbox in 2022, or Activision in 2023. Well fan boys, stop your whining. You got EXACTLY what you wanted. Crappier games at inflated prices devoid of meaningful content or gameplay.

The Creation Club was but a concept business plan put in place by Bethesda to show the profitability of the company in 2017. It wasn’t initially accepted by the masses, but consumers are quick to forget. After a couple of tweaks and a couple of years, the concept was profitable, the company was sold for a lucrative price, and the current decline of the industry was set.

Now those same fan boys berate games like Starfield, but those same people are the cause of such creatively devoid games. It’s the acceptance of the business model in Skyrim and Fallout that sealed the fate of the industry. The acceptance of “seasonal passes” in the Diablo franchise, nothing but an acceptance of pay to play profit strategies for investors to help you spend your money.

Eventually, when all the talent has left the industry and the price cap exceeds what people are willing to pay for crap content, investors will pull out. Big business gaming will die out and indie games will be what’s left. Better content on much smaller budgets and scale… Then the whole thing will play out again. It’s what humanity calls progress.

F achivments anyway.

hahaha, if you play starfield you deserve this

Not sure if that number is correct but, when buying a Mod from bethesda store:
Bethesda gets 40%, Microsoft 30%, and the modder gets 30%

Would be a shame if they couldnt find a way to cash in on millions of hours fans put in to modding their game … why finish a game by paying your own devs if you have millions that do it for free

Bughesda always make new low…

People still care abt achievements? I wasn’t even trying and got all the achivements before modding even launched except the mineral/flora harvesting because I can’t be bothered with that tedium and I don’t care.

There’s a lot to criticize in the current system but achievement friendly mods are near the bottom of my list.

the problem as usual is not greedy company or incompetent modders,its the mentally undemanding idiots that justify and buy this crap.

That’s what I love about my PC, games are so moddable

I don’t think that Bethesda can fall more in my eyes.

Not surprising, Bethesda has been doing this scumbag shit in Fallout 76 with Fallout 1st.

Skyrim special edition had this same thing like years ago, this isn’t new

The prime fault is on Bethesda who continue relentlesly to sustain Bethesda practices for too long time.

8:55 the outpost building feature which includes deploying a sleeping bag and a cooking station has been in the game since launch. as for the “lay your head to rest” the game smartly places sleeping bags almost around every human built point of interest.

Yeah…. eff that nonsense

7:52 the save on rest (sleeping in a bed) feature has been in the game since launch

I stopped caring about achievements ages ago. they don’t add anything of value to a good game.

I removed Starfeild from my Steam Library after I saw the modding scene. I gave it time and even for PC players Starfield does not offer much when compared to TES or Fallout.

In short, there is no modding community for this game as you would think and the Community hates it and won’t fix it, as they should.

I knew Bethesda was going too do this shit after seen Loadfield

I miss the old Bethesda the way Kanye misses the old Kanye

Non issue. Dont get achievements, don’t use mods, pay the dollar if you really want it. You could also get a pc like an adult.

I think the worst part is some of the paid mods are broken. You pay for bethesda quality. lol

Oh Bethesda…wait another year, there will be legacy edition, another 2 years Special edition and then 10 years Anniversary edition…on every platform including Smart fridges. EVERYONE who played Bethesda games know, that the modders make their games better, fix it while Bethesda sits back and does nothing. They lost my respect as well as so many others because of their antics

Bethesda has 100% lost its soul paid mods suck but stop playing stop buying it that how capitalism works

It’s funny you mentioned the paid achievement friendly cheat mods, cause that was the whole reason why Bethesda disabled achievements. They couldn’t keep track of thousands of mods so decided to disable achievements altogether. This isn’t Bethesda anymore. Greed has taken over their values.

Nothing could get me to give Bethesda or Todd my money after Starfield. The Bethesda of old no longer exists.

Slopfield was created so modders could make the game Todd…ALWAYS dreamed of.

Fun fact everything is already in the game these mods are just a shortcut to it. They should not be charging us.

Whhaattt’s the problem? Doesn’t EVERYBODY make…lyin Todd Howard money?…Lazy.

Last good game Bethesda made was 14 years ago, from then on it got worse and worse and now we are rock bottom but it seems rock bottom can have a cellar also.

This makes me want to play starfield. As a gamer ive never been an achievement hunter. This seems like a bit of a reach to be this mad but i understand my experience may be unique

“Modders HAD TO charge you!” No… they get to. They aren’t upset with people paying for it.

Imagine being a console pay pig… lol

Who gives a flying fuck about achievements anyway lol like there’s not one single reason why I should care about achievements

2:00 of you repeating the same thing over and over and over not a strong start

I didn’t bother buying Starfield. I could see the writing on the wall. B ruined FO76 with the last few updates. You can see them driving players to the atom shop to spend actual cash on that boring broken game. I went back to FO4.

15:50 “more rants like this one [*giggles* *snicker*]”

I think you need therapy for falling into hate after post appeasement to those who are jealous against Starfield.

And doom the dark ages will require online connection always and a Bethesda account to even play it

11:17 its not a black stain on bethesda. Because you can create a separate game with no mods loaded and never add unfriendly mods for that save file.

I was considering buying Starfield the next sale, after hearing this, to hell with that, they don’t deserve our money.

11:16 there shouldn’t be any other content creator who talks about this like you are doing because you are exuding dark hate.

You’re not a catholic flying nun are you?

Why are xbox achievements even important? Aren’t they designed to extend game play?

Maybe microsoft should make the following achievements:

▪︎ you verified as a creation kit creator 1000 achievement points
▪︎ you made texture for [game]
▪︎ you made a quest
▪︎ you made a plushie
▪︎ you achieved 10,000 downloads for
▪︎ etc

Don’t buy those paid mods, let this platform die.

People still play this garbage? why? do you guys don’t have a better game to play?

5:55 Many in bethesda community have warned people about downloading Arthmoor “patches”. So why should an unofficial patch be given the go ahead?

I still don’t know why BGS didn’t put things from previous BGS or even Xbox games in the world. It would have been fun to see a giant Vault Door (101) in or around where DC would have been, or a “welcome to fabulous new Vegas sign sitting in sand somewhere by LV, or a halo you couldn’t land on in the Eradni system. That would have been so cool.

5:05 Wrong not someone, the same very creator. Not a different person. Read the name.

And that’s why I will never go beyond Skyrim with Bethesda games anymore

Bethesda is making money over adding in terrible and immensely annoying game features that players want to change, but they have to pay more money to change them. Starfield is already such a garbage game anyway, I am not sure why anyone would even spend money on it. I deeply regret buying my copy and yes I did take the time to complete the game just because I paid for it, I might as well get my money’s worth. But it was such a tremendous let down. TES6 is so doomed at this point. Bethesda has destroyed all of their credibility in their last two game launches. People need to stop buying their crap. Especially predatory microtransactions.

Bethesda Game Studios is a hopeless case since 2015. Fallout 4 was the last game I bought from them.

okay but like

youre playing a bethesda game

they havent made a quality game since FO3 and their community NEEDED to fix that too.

bethesda is bad. lazy. untalented.

Your first mistake was considering Achievements worth chasing. I ignore them. Is there an option to simply turn them off? I would if it was simple.

That gun “mod” is not from a different game. It’s from an IP that bethesda themself owns. And the creator provided proof that they have the portfolio. Look at the other creations from Harra_. One he pulled the idea from killzone, it’s free.

lol just unlock all achievements with mod on nexus easy done

I have now uninstalled all of my Bethesda games, I will no longer give them my money or my time. They are completely and utterly black listed for me. This has gotten to the point of no return. Elder Scrolls 6 will be a bigger failure than Starfield.

Mods disabling achievements in Skyrim SE (LE is fine) is the stupidest thing they’ve ever done. Really Beth? This can be bypassed with another mod but nah. You just felt the need to waste everyone’s time (again).

Damn, I called this out at launch, but it’s becoming clearer now.

IIrc, this is the 1st Bethesda game to come out where the Creation club already exists right?

I had theorized that Bethesda made Starfield suck in order to sell us content for years. How do you work on planet proc gen and POI proc gen for 8 years, but there’s only like 3 biomes and 5 poi’s? Boom future content. Factions? What factions? Future content!

But now I see it’s worse. They also want modders to make that content for them! Sell shit that should have existed, without having to make it!

All mods should be free till they hit the 1k likes 👍 after that they get a money scale on popular votes

I have utter contempt for Bethesda but… meh, what kind of dullard even care about achievements in the first place ?

“so hear me out, we release the game, get other people to fix it AND charge them for it!”

It’s simple. Don’t give them your money.

bethesda could have been great, if they had just been content with the success of skyrim, but they are a public corp so they have to behave like absolute goblins and try to milk the community even more with these paid mods even at the expense of the future of the company.

they went from beloved with guaranteed sales to one of the most hated because instead of taking care of the dairy cow they ripped the udders off and threw it into a juicer.

I dont support bethesdas recent marketing BUT this is like whineing about C.O.D. expecting to get something done about it lol i cant wrap my mind about complaining and whineing instead of just finding a game that makes you happy.

Are we really surprised?

Yeah, Bethesda has lost their “groove”. It’s sad.

Only losers care about achievements. They should pay up if they are such pathetic losers.

how is the modding scene for this game doing this time since the creation kits release vs their older games? Has the paid mod market place killed its trajectory vs the older games at this point in their life cycle? I’m curious if the presence of creations has kneecapped that community from growing

I like calling Todd “Toddicus Vile” the Daedric Prince of Bargains & Schemes. He even looks like Clavicus in Redguard, well a little.

I have to say the devs on 76 are trying but they’re working with garbage. I can tell they are really trying. The community will wait if they focus on stabilizing it. It will take us time to farm all the mods we need for the different sets of armor you need for raids. They added the legacy effects again and I appreciate that. I’m just waiting for another exolosive mod to put on my legacy flamers. Bows are nice because you can have exclusive or fire, cryo or plasma damage.

However they keep screwing up too. But I give them credit for trying.

And this right here is why I won’t buy anymore Bethesda games because they will never learn not till they have lost all their money.
It’s paid grayslop from now on from Bethesda which is really disappointing.
The part I am mad about is I know this is just the start of them making it where ONLY paid mods can be used and I am sure they will pay off nexus to do it for their games.

Why do people care about achievements anyway? I never cared about them. If you need a carrot on a stick to keep playing a game because you can’t enjoy it otherwise, maybe just stop playing and do something valuable instead.

Well….this relationship betweem Bethesda and modders used to be THE coolest and chillest thing ever, thousands of mods and Bethesda loved it, no harm done.

THIS….is the most toxic relationship ive ever seen between modders and a developer, they are feeding off of creativity of others who love their games, and keep it alive.

At one point, this has to stop…why not now. Im REALLY close to blacklisting Bethesda along with Activision, Ubisoft and EA, havent played their games for years, removed the launchers too.

I use a mod called “Achievements Mods Enabler SE-AE” for my (PC) Skyrim game. So the game ignores my mods entirely.

Completed Starfield twice and didn’t complete Shattered Space. Thought yesterday that I may uninstall it soon.

This only effects people who rely exclusively on creations. Nexus already has a mod that just bypasses all the checks and forcibly re enables achievements and its been around since the beginning. No one serious about modding there game is going onto creations to get their mods they are going to nexus

Can’t believe this! People are still playing Starfield???

Everyone is thinking to far ahead because Bethesda will likely add creation club mods to the Oblivion Remake/Remaster and every other Bethesda title that gets a Remake/Remaster. Also remember that Bethesda was the studio that was setting the standard for the industry and now look how far the mighty have fallen AND how many other studios that were great have fallen as well because they went corporate and only care about how much money they can make off their game before gamers can say anything about their game. Glad I don’t play Starfield.

I was disappointed by Fallout 4 and never got 76, but I pre-ordered Starfield thinking that M$ really needs this game to succeed in order to push the xbox, I thought there was too much riding on this for them to screw it up. Lucky for me I refunded it 30 hours into ‘pre-release’ week and have absolutely no regrets. The game sucks and I could see this kind of nonsense coming.

I never really cared for achievemnts. Like, I don’t even get why it’s so appealing.

Bethesda is a dead studio. I said so upon the release of Starfield.

The modding scene is ridiculous in this game. Only a few decent mods here and there and then…new mods? Oh wait… it’s more retextures for a gun.

I wish bethesda wasn’t so greedy. Small stuff yeah, but I expect a full game at Full Price.

Why do we care about Achievements? Or console users?

PS3 and Xbox 360 were rip off cash grabs back in the mid 2000’s, thanks to console users liveservice games are even a thing in the first place.

Console users for the last 2 decades desided to become willing milked w#or€s. F console users, they made their bed now they can lay in it.

Played Starfield again the other day, and the game feels so dated. The fact that I can’t swim underwater, or swap shoulders in 3rd person, or even simply not being able to see my body in first person for immersion is laughable. I immediately uninstalled and went back to my Skyrim with 1500 mods that’s way more immersive than Starfield. 1000s of hours in and I’m still not bored of Skyrim. Tried to give Starfield a chance again but it’s a joke.

Eh, could be worse…

I wasn’t even interested in Outer Space adventures anyways, so Starfield was a pass for me. As for Skyrim, Elder Scrolls 6, or Fallout 5 with paid mods — it actually depends on if the mod in question peaks my interest or not. Also I don’t even give a cluck about game achievement. They’re utterly meaningless, just like religion.

Before the game was released i was really interested to make mods for it like i did for all other Bethesda games since about 20 years but after the release, i did not really feel that i would get into it, then after playing this crappy game for a while, i was sure i would not make any mods for it.
Lately i was a bit bored and i thought “maybe i should try to make some mods anyway” but now, if they take this route to greed, it’s definitely a NO!!!
Starfield is worst than Fallout 4 in so many ways, worst NPCs, worst companions, worst story, worst quests and so on…

Most of these mod are done by lazy creators

i mean if people only game to get achievements then yeah sure thats makes them only have the option of paid mods but at the same time … people that have modded before never really cared and if they did care enough didnt there used to be mods just to unlock all achiements in a game ? like achievements being the issue like im confused why achievements matter ? but then im pc just dont see the reasoning why console players cling to achievements ?

I honestly dont know or understand how anyone can actually still be playing Starfield?
Its the most Sterile game ive ever experienced! Zero Bethesda soul, terrible writing and dreadful graphics for the performance cost.
Before you call me a hater, I WAS a massive Bethesda fan, but after FO76, and Starfield, ive lost all hope in their magic.
It truly pains me that Starflop was the first BGS title I ever uninstalled and felt NOTHING.
Also who tf is even wasting their time modding this trash??? Why do that to urself?
Im done ranting.

The the B in BGS stands for bullshit these days. Bummer to learn they’re doing this, thakns for informing us.

Watch for the ES6 only “verified creators” will have access to the creation kit. Im calling it now. I also think everyone needs to get the OG oblivion before the remaster comes out. I guarantee they’ll also introduce paid mods in the remaster.

I’m so glad i stopped playing this in november. It seems to have gotten worse.

Lmao it’s like 1 dollar or two each. How broke are these ppl complaning? Lol

I could care less about “achievements”. What does achievements do to make a game better?

11:15, you’re the first I’m hearing this from.

I’m getting a very very small feeling you’re upset by something? lol
This is another horse armor. GodDamnIt Bethesda.

I mean… if anyone is still playing Starfield seriously today… I don’t know if there’s much to be done for them. Complete indoctrination in the Bethesda cult. Like the Borg.

They were better off when they weren’t owned by Microsoft. smh