Only handheld or lots of other company can build console now and we see Samsung,Lenovo,Asus build console. I think only Microsoft build console and Samsung,Lenovo and Asus build handheld

This will be a big win for someone like me who can’t afford a decent pc gaming rig, am with you 💯 percent with this, if this is what’s going to happen i can’t bloody wait. Merry Christmas Chaos to you and your family

You know… the thing is! Microsoft is thinking future. That’s why they bought Activision, Bethesda, etc. They know the hardware becomes absolote even before their console hits the market. So, why not outsource the hardware to companies who specialize in that department. That’s a Win! Imo. You let the consumers decide whether they want a $400 console or a $2400 machine.

Who’s this for? As an xbox fan who doesn’t give a crap about steam, what does this do for me that Microsoft putting out a new powerful xbox console with AAA exclusives would already do!? I don’t see the point in this.

It wont matter Micrososoft will still make boring pander games.There really just making Money off of PC.

No it ain’t lol

We don’t care no more,we are only getting PS6 next gen

So it will just be a PC with a console emulator installed? We already have that.

New xbox series x has really brought anything new from the previous generation imo

And what casual is going to care about this when all they care about is call of duty and FIFA or fortnite. I think they just going to buy PlayStation

It sounds good on paper!!!!

But how does Microsoft make sure each OEM device gets fully supported by devs if they are allowed to choose their own spec sheet. As id guess they would be allowed to create their own app store. Which if exclusive to each OEM device creates a headache for Microsoft. Look at Android as an example.
How easy is it to port & optimize to this new eco system. As devs seem to have forgotten how to make games. They moaned at the Series S & on PC moan that large amount of users use older tech.
But my main concern is can Microsoft pull it off. They have great visions but never seem to make it past the finish line. Plus they will need tp market it & support its OEMs. Which again they don’t have a great track record for on other consumer products in the past.

I really want that hybrid console! I’m just glad they finally picked a lane and sticking to it

If they go pc like, with gpu expansion… then the risk of turning into the next sega is close. But of course microsoft want cloud gaming

Even PlayStation games will go to Xbox as well.

Brilliant move by Xbox!! By having other PC companies make their own version of Xbox consoles it allows them to purchase other gaming studios without the major push back it received with the ABK deal. Because Xbox is sharing their games with other companies unlike PlayStation timed exclusives 😅

I think you might be leaving out a very big and potential con. Having many sku’s for the Xbox greatly limits developer’s ability to optimize there games.

You really can’t skip over this. Gaming on a medium built PC is a very sub par experience than an optimized console imo.

You can’t really sell this Utopia of 10 different manufacturers of Xbox without considering game development, tuning, and optimization.

Im not sure that if they let other manufacturers build them that they will have the freedom to change components and power. They will license out a design to builders and for console games to continue compatibility on these machines they may be stuck with AMD designed GPUs at minimum. You cant write a console SDK that supports multiple manufacturers and architectures of GPU.

The Xbox series x|s could be the base models or minimum specs then the oems could make an equivalent or high end model using different chips like intel nvidia etc. Then on the pc side you’ll have a bootable Xbox os strictly for gaming with all your launchers then windows 11 for productivity or traditional pc gaming.

The actual plan is all games streaming only for every platform. Gaming will boil down to apps on your TV and Phone including Steam.

I would love a dash that has launcher logos like: XBOX, XBOX 360, SERIES X|S, etc.

What you are saying sounds way to complicated. Devs are already losing their min with the series s.

Eco system

The whole idea of playing steam games and sony games as part of it on an xbox is very cool.
However there are so many caveats to make it work:
1. They cant optimize to just 2 xboxes…what happens with countless xbox-pc hybrids? Some games are very unoprimized on PC – like jedi survivor.
2. Price point. Samsung and Asus have to charge mark-up as they wont subsidize the consoles like MS. Average pre-built PC is at least 1K USD. I think the cheapest base xbox/pc hybrid will be around that.
3. How it differs from booting any PC and luanching xbox OS/overlay when its ready? It will be part of windows.
4. Without console market = no control. PS and big N can charge you more for putting games on their platforms. MS wont have a leverage of console share at all.
5. The paid online situation? Steam is free for example. Sounds like GP cores subs are zeroed out and GP revenues goes down as people downgrade from GPU to PC game pass. Prob more changes to GP model that we wont like as consumers. Overall GP number will drop while still not offset by cloud or PC. People still use steam and avoid GP on PC more often.

Dont want to be doom+gloom guy but sounds like a way to lose platform and identy at all. Your business will just go to steam.

Xbox is going multiplat as well as playstation. All of their game is on pc anyway. I am playing all. But if future Xbox put steam on xbox than I going to buy that.

Oh so Valve is releasing a console, but with Microsoft as a partner ? I didn’t know that. I thought it was just Valve, by themselves, releasing their own console with Steam Os. So this is all happening really soon then ? I’m ok with that.

Xbox pc( personal console)😊 it would probably bankrupt a collector of Xbox consoles. Razor Xbox, Xbox tuf,turtle beach Xbox with ultrasonic controller…….. and so on.😊

This is just the start in my opinion, wait till World of Warcraft hits the xbox. Better hold on😊

If they are implementing a pc console will the xbox series x and s get some stuff maybe like steam software etc?

Err.. All xboxes are already pcs in a box… They derived from… Direct-X box….now while I’m taking the piss, I know what you mean.. But cmon now…

What I see is a lot of speculation and fear mongering from those who play the podcast game on both sides. Some are quelling those fears w/ some good logic using hints from previous statements from Xbox leadership. But that said, I have no fear of what xbox is doing and where they are going in the near future.

Xbox is playing a long game to keep their brand around for another decade or 3. The next xbox will still be dedicated hardware w/ options to use other dedicated or cloud platforms.

Tflops only matter for the amount of calculations that can happen at any given time. So in theory it means more actions can happen in front and behind the scenes. But, it’s still up to the sdk and devs proficiency.

I’m hoping the next xbox from Xbox is a flagship like the surface line w/ near top tier hardware and premium quality/design. I’d pay $700-800 for something that matches an rtx 5080 and a 14th/15th gen cpu. I’d pay for real hardware performance, not some p’ssr shit.

Tflops aren’t the be all end all but they obviously mean something if they’re still included in GPU specs. Its still a measurement of performance.

MS is not porting all their games over. They never said thag. They said games will go on a case by case basis. Jez is engagement farming like all other insiders.

Will the next Xbox allow mods 🤔

I love it

If you have Steam on an Xbox will PlayStation keep putting games on Steam?

My thing is for the next generation Xbox Do you get the ultimate game pass or do you get PC gamepads if it’s going to be considered a PC

Why the hell so many people copy catting this stupid notion of a ‘PC Hybrid’?? Like dude, _thats EXACTLY_ what a Console _IS_ – a PC Hybrid! DOH! 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂
What you guys really mean is simply an Xbox PC.

Mid gen upgrade…no problem heres your new gpu 👍

Microsoft to Sony: Checkmate

Please be so if it has steam id buy 100 present

N*Xbox

Dell xbox xps 1000 💀👽

Ive been waiting for this evolution!

it’s cute you guys think MS can use Steam to play PS5 games on Xbox with no legal consequences. Just you wait. that fantasy will never happen.

Xbox 💪💪💪💪💪💪 💯 💚

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Not sure why everyone keeps running with rumors. this always happens during the holidays. Jez pushing out articles to get clicks during slow holiday. I don;t believe nothing from Dec 10 – Jan 15

With tariffs a real possibility, the lead up to console distribution and manufacturing allowing 3rd party to manufacture different console configurations has the strongest model to alleviate this.
Companies on a lead up of something like a console will have to buy the parts ahead of launch to prepare, it has been stipulated that Nintendo delayed Switch 2 because of this.
MS and Sony do not want a situation similar to what has happened during the draught of availability.

You’re delusional, they arent licensing steam console type consoles…they are making a cloud hybrid as the leak from the lawsuit showed. Meaning it’s weak hardware with cloud doing the heavy lifting…like Nvida has been doing. You’ll be playing off a streamed 4090/5090 ti and thats how they get the biggest leap lol
Not the BS you keep spewing. You are seriously delusional

This old man is in tears inside….

If the Total War Series is on the next Xbox and all the games are available with the Steam app on the next Xbox playing beautifully, I’m definitely going to buy it day one.

It would be cool to play my total war games on the next Xbox from the comfort of my couch.😊

Pc/console hybrid, the next evolution in consoles. Sony WILL follow, will HAVE too follow. I’m looking forward to it if I’m honest. Hopefully no more mid gens just constant next gens

If this is all true I will be buying this

Who is standing behind Master Chief in the Thumbnail? Is it the legendary John Xbox?

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