I have 4090 with 7800x3D.
Im playing games in 1440p. Do you think that cpu update will see any benefits in this resolution ?

Really gotta start testing at at least 1440p too. Preferably 4k too. The benchmarks in the video sadly just say a whole lot of nothing for most people.

Merci pour ce test =)

So, basically, AMD was part of a planned obsolescence scheme to squeeze consumers’ and global wealth, also harming the environment with unnecessary production and energy generation along the way. First, put the cache on the wrong side with 5800X3D, then on the correct with 9800X3D. And consumers support this strategy by buying out 9800X3D…

I can man up and admit that I don’t make enough money to support my family and buy even the previous generation of the top tier hardware. It’s a bit disheartening when it seems like everyone (or at least every YouTube reviewer) has cash on hand to drop $1700-$2200 on a freaking single GPU. And some even drop more by buying from scalpers. I know they do it or the scalpers wouldn’t scalp. Do people just not have bills, not have family, or are they just that bad with their money?? 😂 Alternative, am I really that poor? 😅

It is a great processor, but if you have 7800x3d the upgrade is just not worth it.

Can’t wait to pair a 9800X3D with a 5090 Ti instead of buying a house

If it is not too much work, could we also get a Starcraft II benchmark, since it is a good example of a legacy game, which is extremely single thread demanding. Althought 5800X3D was already a really big jump for making that game feel smooth.

2:07 I’m a Linux user so I’m not familiar with the Windows releases but in the case of the Intel Core Ultra 200S, can you actually still install a previous Windows 11 release on a new system?

how much was the increase in power for these small gains?

I understand the reason to test CPU with 1080p but lets be realistic now. Who will buy 9800X3D and soon 5090 to play at 1080p?
Maybe CS go players in e-sports but that is tiny amount of all players playing with best gpu and CPU.

I looked other game test youtube videos where were side by side gaming tests 7800X3D vs 9800X3D showing fps, min fps, temps, power ect on 1440p and 4K also.
Thats more likely test i wanted to see what games and where new cpu is getting more VALUE if at all.

For fucks sake, can someone do a video of 1440 P

Hi, New Subscriber here – great channel, very informative! — Quick Question, (I’m sorry if you get this a lot), but I could really use some proper informed advice. I’m building a new rig, likely using a Ryzen 7 9800X3D, if I can find one in the wild. All the AM5 mother board options are making my head spin. I know I want to use a gen 5 SSD, and 64GB ram (Do I need that much? ) And likely a 4080 super as my base. I do mostly video and photo editing and gaming. I want to build a powerful system for those purposes. What AM5 Mobo would you choose? Should I wait for the 9950X3D to drop? How much, and what speed, DDR5 ram would you use? In Short- Knowing what you know. What Mobo & configuration would you build? Please and Thank You… I appreciate your insights!

Assuming that you have something like 4070 or 6800 XT what would it be a great CPU for 1440p ? Here we see relative performance among CPUs at 1080p but when gaming at 1440p these differences should be reduced to a point where you would not get more performance independently of the CPU. Help!

for anyone who plays at 4k (rtx 4090 gpu) , it would be a good addition a graph with 4k gaming results, to knovw if its a worth upgrade over 7800x3d

How about 1440p?

New video idea 💡 all x3d CPUs ranking bottom to top tier

This makes me hope PlayStation 6 uses a chip like this.

HAI GAIS WHY ARENT U DOING THEZE BENCHMARKZ WITH A GT430?!!!!oneoneone111!!

The scalpers are working overtime on this one.

I was hoping to see better performance AND performance per watt — alas, we only got better performance.

Gonna stick with the 7800X3D for now then

3:03 he had the chance to say the thing and didn’t. I have never heard a tech reviewer skip that joke. I honestpy thought it kinda came with the job.

techpowerup tests at 1440p and 4k …. just saying. Just shows how poor a value these are above 1080p

Regarding 1080p vs 1440p benchmarks, it’s not that people don’t know what the aim of 1080p benchmarks is. It’s that people who are thinking it’s all about 1080p benchmarks (or benchmarks at non actual use-case resolutions) are missing the point that the CPU performance at real-world use-case resolutions is the actionable information that is relevant to people’s interests when learning how a CPU performs. It’s what purchasing decisions are, or should be, based on. Showing spreads at resolutions that are beneath what people will actually be using, when there will be no spread at the resolutions they actually use, is misleading in terms of messaging of what people should expect from the CPU.

Reviewers need to think about the reason people are watching reviews. Showing FPS spreads at 1080p for a top-end gaming CPU is just academic information. It’s not a practical information for consumers. By all means, show the 1080p spread. But don’t do it without showing real-world use-case gaming results at 1440p and 4k. When the results of multiple CPUs show the same performance at 1440p because even the most powerful consumer GPU can’t deliver higher FPS… that’s good, actionable review information that lets people know they aren’t going to get any more performance if they shell-out for a more expensive CPU.

And very-few people even have an RTX 4090. Even in another several years, the large majority of 7800X3D and 9800X3D owners still won’t have RTX 4090 GPU performance to go with their CPU. So, showing 1080p benchmarks without this additional context to interpret the 1080p results is misleading and makes people think they’re paying for performance they probably won’t ever actually see.

And people saying “then you’re testing the GPU and not the CPU” aren’t correct, as the GPU is only part of the equation. It’s testing the CPU to the extent it’s able to stretch its legs with (typically the maximum) GPU performance that’s available, and letting people know that they aren’t going to get more performance out of the CPU than what benchmarks at real-use resolutions show.

BTW, Linus addressed this topic in LTT’s 9800X3D review, and noted that 1080p benchmarks aren’t relevant for most people, and that looking at 1440p benchmarks shows there’s not really any reason to upgrade to a 9800X3D if already owning a 7800X3D and only using the CPU for gaming at 1440p or higher. That fact is hidden in 1080p benchmarks, and so only showing 1080p benchmarks misleads people into paying more for something they won’t benefit from.

those throne and liberty results really don’t mean much I have a 7800 x 3D and I drop down into the 30s when peace bosses or zvz

Can we just get a battle of the X3D chips including the 7600x3d, please sir.🙏

so for those of us who left 1080p gaming back in 2016 where it belongs. how does it do at 1440p and 4k?

This is intel being cooked!!

buying a AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D and a rtx 4090 and plaiyng in 1080p (low-high) , i think is not representative of people usecase scenario, i expected to see test in 1440p and 4k also , to see if the new cpu is really good for the price

Anyone else shake their head when the soldier spun the gpu fan in the animation?

Going to nitpick a little. I doubt there are many people playing Flightsim on a 1080p monitor. Maybe four of them or a VR headset. So 4K would be more useful.

And flightsim is more CPU intensive than most games so it shouldn’t be graphically restrained as much as average games. With all its calculations and such

That was a lot! Thanks a lot for doing it, though I’m sure you must have had a blast while finally being excited about something after so long.

6:49 man that second game could’ve been something else

man can someone post 1440p benchmarks, no1 give shit about 1080p gaming in 2024

7800X3D is still the king imo, thing is generational

PUBG?

What?

You’re testing CPU performance, and not playing in 8K monitors?

Imbelievable.
Do you guys understand anything about computers???

(Yes. This is satire)
(Also, it’s unbelievable how much of comments like these I see when analizing CPU performance videos)

Is there any benefit to using these vs cheaper CPUs if gaming in 4k?

Having trouble imaging a world where HL doesn’t mean Half-Life but Hogwarts Legacy. Get off my lawn.

If this 21% uplift is taking 30% more power, then this might be just from tweaking some voltages and we’re basically in Intel-bullshit territory again. Would be nice to see a follow up that takes into account power consumption, and even tries to overclock the 7800X3D to match the power consumption of the 9800 and see what that does (and/or vice versa, reduce the power consumption of the 9800 to match the 7800)

Those benchmarks are completely useless for me, my 4090 is constantly in 4k and similar reviews don’t help me to decide if it’s time to replace my current CPU. If you pay top money for 9800X3D and still play @ 1080p, there is something wrong with you.

These benchmarks aren’t really accurate. Try doing a 4070 Super at 1440p.

we need 1440p tests cuz i think we are mostly gpu bound

Amds problem is that most of there cpus are good enough for the vast majority of people. So even if the new stuff is good your current cpu is probably doing everything you want it to do

Can we see a 1440p and 4K please?
I have not gamed on 1080p for over 6 years now.

no 1440p benchmarks?

testing at 1080p is so lame. What an amateur. 😁

Which Clown Plays in 1080 p

If you already have a 7800X3D and anything less than a 4080, you’re far better off upgrading your GPU. By a huge margin.

Would have liked to see the power usage graph at the end. I think 7800X3D is much more efficient. Also would like to see 9800X3D results power limited to same target as 7800X3D.

9800x3d + 4090 testing at 1080p isn’t very practical. I get eliminating GPU bottlenecks is key to getting accurate cpu gaming performance but a comprehensive review should also include other common resolutions, particularity what folks who’d have this level of hardware might be running, otherwise it’s not hugely relevant.

please, 4K benchmarks if possible

Please show the comparison against the 14900K at 1440P & 4K also if you can. And overclocked comparisons also are appreciated. Thx Steve ❤

How about Factorio 2.0?

The new format for the head-to-head comparisons is great! Keep up the amazing work! 😊

I know but, 4K, since nobody plays in 1080p when owning them 4090 connected to those big qdoled tvs

Is this the last chip for the current motherboard generation?

2:10 Venting my frustration!

Thank you for testing MSFS!

To me this is still no good deal when it is sold for 500€ here in Germany when the 7800x3d was as low as 330€. It just looks good in comparison to the current 7800x3d pricing, what a shame

still 7800x3d in use 250 dollar best in price

Could you please test the 9800x3d overclockied (since it’s kind of a new feature that we didn’t have on the 7800x3d) and test it against the 9800x3d not overclocked and the 7800x3d?? Would like to see how big of a difference it makes

No one play FullHD with a 4090 and 9800x3d… make 4k Bechmarks

damn! those who got 7800x3d at $300 it was a steal.. yes 9800x3d faster duh. Can’t wait for the 10800x3d (lol) NEXT YEAR!!

Imagine having a 4090 and 9800X3D to play at 1080p.

Why not nobody compare at 2k or 4k? There will be no performance difference most likely

Honestly don’t need to upgrade, but definitely love the comparison.

AND now 2k and 4k resolutions please

I wonder what you will do if you are given OEM version CPU to test.
How will you do the unboxing?

Is Callisto possibly hard limited to 150FPS?

Wtf why do so many people in the comments ask for HIGHER resolutions IN A CPU TEST?!?
Resolution is only relevant for GPU testing guys 🤦‍♂️if anything I want lower resolutions tested to see the actual fps the CPUs can achieve without any GPU bottleneck impacting the results

Can you please do benchmarks at resolutions other than 1080. I know that that shows the best cpu effects, but many gamers want to see the exact results for their resolutions to make purchasing decisions.

Thanks for this comparison. Would you be so kind and test the 9800X3D vs. the 7950X3D with only the 3DVcache CCD enabled? They both sport the same boost clocks, so it would be interesting to see how much of a difference the architecture itself makes vs. higher clockspeed.

Intel: “ok, I tap out”

Would love to know how 9800X3D fares, with games like : Planet Coaster (the map filled out with rides and manny visitors), Dysons Sphere & Satisfactory with huge factories, and manny belts. Cities Skyline II with a huge city. And maybe Farming Simulator with the Huge Mod Maps. I guess these games would maybe benefit witt 16+ Cores, rather than 8. (PS i bought the 9800X3D, still waiting for it:-)

Thank you.

Why doing only 1080p benchs..
Nowadays 4090 gamers plays 1440p and 4k more than 1080p

Rustttttttt

Why not including 5800X3D though? 🧐

Awesome , great comparison!!

Great work and thank you Steve!
I would love to have a comparison with all generations of AMD since ZEN 1 mostly with 1% and 0.1% Lows! We would probably see some crazy numbers!
1800X, 2700X, 3800X, 5800X, 5800X3D, 7800X3D, and 9800X3D

I don’t find the 9800x3d exciting. I got in at zen 4 and most of zen 5 was forgettable. With the 9800x3d only 8% faster on average, it doesn’t justify an upgrade. Sure it’s the best and that is cool, but ehhh. I just can’t get excited like you guys.

If a 7800X3D and 9800X3D are still bottlenecking a 4090 then I don’t even imagine how bottlenecked the 5090/Ti will be… ZEN 6 3D couldn’t get here soon enough… and with 16cores per CCD it will be more than welcome too! Hoping that ZEN 6 will also get 2 V-Cache (1 per CCD)

now 9800X3d VS 98000X3D oc at 5.6 GHZ on all core…

My 5800x non 3D giving me the “I’m tired boss”. Been holding off moving from am4 but this is really making me considering it.

Truth is that is 7800X3D was still avaiable at 350€ like this summer almost nobody would consider 550€ 9800X3D as an option… AMD had to ‘discontinue’ the 7800 to push the 9800….🙄

Why do you guys always test Fortnite on them settings? There is literally a performance mode which targets cpu power only? Wouldn’t that be the best way to test cpu vs cpu? Given it has no impact from the gou

For the titles that are gpu bound, would it be a good idea to manually tweak graphics settings, turning down the settings that mostly affect the gpu?

why benchmark in games if you are just benchmarking the cpu bottlenecking? Some 1440p and 4k would be nice, even if you think its worthless…

So unless you’re stuck in 2015 and still playing @1080 this isn’t worth upgrading

Guys, my 13600k crashes my system occasionally. Will bios update fix it or should I pull the trigger and get the 9800X3D? My gpu is Nitro+ XTX. I feel like i5 sometimes limits it anyway as I am gaming on Linux, which is more demanding for the CPU.

Hello, just want to post to please consider doing World of Warcraft at CPU benchmarks. It is heavily CPU limited game, milions of people play it, and it’s easy to test performance in repeatable way by just doing flight maps from one place to another (there are NPC which gives you automated travel (always predefined route) from place A to B). I’m sure WoW community would be hugely grateful, and it would be certainly more interesting benchmark than a lot of the games like Forza.

Well, one thing’s sure, in the next 2 years I will not even consider an Intel processor in my build not unless they suddenly offer a 9800X3D tier processor with a max TDP of 125w for less than $400. Other than that, all I can say to Intel is:

14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I know GPU usage is not a precise metric, but is this CPU close to maxing out the 4090 or are we still far away from that ? 🤔

The crux of the matter is that if you cannot find stock for 9800x3D due to all the hype, if you can find a 7800x3D for substantially cheaper you arent losing out too much

Please include tarkov in this benchmarks , probably one of the most cpu hungry titles

Imagine benchmarking it on 480p 💀

or 0%-1% if you run game @4k

This graphs and videos are useless for anyone to get any real life useful information out of this. Just include one slide of a set of games run at 4k on a 4090 Max, and let’s say a 4070TI at 4k. That way people know if they’ll get a performance gain.

Who are these people upgrading from a 7800X3D? Wouldn’t the better consumer advice be a comparison against the 5800X3D? This is silly.

I would like to see higher resolutions tested with different DLSS presets to compare CPU performance.

Would Cities Skylines in the later development stages be a viable benchmark for either CPU or GPU?

as someone who bought a 7800x3d this summer they seem quite similar

Why do you always test cpu’s and gpu’s with 1080p settings? A lot of people use 1440p or 4k settings on their game and have monitors using those resolutions.

Would love you to use them instead for testing these cpu and gpu components.

It’s incredible how AMD trying to cook on both sides with Intel and Nvidia

I can’t understand why Intel have not made a high cache version of their chips, unless it’s AMD patented.

How many of these games one will play at 1080p?

Cool… nice to see. Be interesting to see in a years time with 2025 games one would think the discrepancy will increase.

1080p not interested

How about 1440p?

8% uplift at 1080p with a 4090. Now play with a more affordable gpu like a 4080 or 7900xtx at a relevant resolution like 1440p or more and now you find less than 1% uplift.

As long as you have a 5700x3d you’re good to go for the next 2 gpu generations. Dont fall for the inflated hype.

Hey guys, can I recommend adding Escape From Tarkov as a test game in the future for CPU performance, as it’s a heavily CPU dependant game.

I understand testing at 1080P to test CPU performance, but for 4K gaming currently with a 5800X3D + 7900XTX, am I sufficiently GPU constrained as to not benefit from a CPU upgrade?

The CS2 preset that you use turns on FSR. It’s terrible in CS2 and shouldn’t be used.

If you play on 1440p or 2160p and turns on the DLSS or FSR, you will get more FPS with this CPU comparing to others?

You probably didn’t see much of a difference in MSFS as it chews through RAM maybe try with 64 or 48GB?

this is because u only need a newer cpu if u game at 1080p.
4k gamers can keep ur 6700k or 1600x which perform the same
as these chips at 4k.

I don’t understand the 1080p testing.
Someone will use 9800X3D + 4090 to play in 1080p?
Make a comparison in 4K. https://youtu.be/y-ZfIxa6dhY?t=380

wheres the 5800X3D????

Here in Oz the 9800X3D is DOUBLE the price of the 14600K. It certainly doesn’t give double the gaming performance. And is on par at best in everything else. This is why I refuse to buy into the AMD hype.

I understand why you don’t test at 4k. You’re looking at CPU performance only. There have been many examples of 4k results being higher with the newer CPU and many that resulted in the same framrate. I’ll never forget reviewers assuming the 3090 reached it’s limits at 1080p until the 5800x3d came out. 1080p data means nothing to 4k gamers. Should a 4k gamer buy this chip or not? Stop referring to old videos and answer the question. Yes, the 9800x3d beats out the 7800x3d at 1080p, but why does that matter to me? I don’t play at 1080p! Look, I get what you’re doing, but some cpu upgrades benefit 4k, gamers, and some don’t. Imagine upgrading from a 2700x paired with a 2080ti to a 5800x3d. Both are 8 core processors with the 5800x3d’s clocked 200mhz higher, but the gaming performance at 4k is massive. Stop being condescending and save me some research time. I’m a busy man. Just give me the data myself and the other people “complain” about, but want.

The Grey Knight holding the 9800X3D is the best thing ive seen all week.

Keep in mind this is with a 4090, so when the 5090 comes out the gains between 78 and 98 will be more pronounced in comparative testing. As hard as it may be to believe, there IS a GPU bottleneck happening here.

To sum it up: 2% uplift @1440p. Great! 😂

Not going to lie I kind of wish you would have added in the 5800X3D but you do have limited time on this planet so I can understand a chip that old you’re not going to really put it in this type of lineup…. but I’m still sad😢

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Throne and Liberty at epic at 197fps, you did not test in a ZvZ

Awesome benchmarks. How much performance difference at 1440p and 4k? Is there any benefit at those resolutions?

5800x3d would be awesome to!

Thank you so much for such exhaustive testing. You know you’re setting a new standard for benchmarking when it makes sense to group games into blocks of five for presentation of the data.

My 9800X3D arriving tuesday. Enjoy building brothers!

at this point intel is going to be viable only on old platforms where performance will not be paramount and real 2nd hand prices will be what intel will get…….for a while until AMD will push them out from that also……too bad but they had it coming with all their arrogance and overconfidence …..long live the new king AMD

Is it possible to test Arma 3?

Greetings from Germany

I get testing at 1080p to remove any gpu bottlenecks but let’s be real here, no one is buying a 9800x3d is playing at 1080p… Do a more realistic test at 1440p & 4k as this whole video is basically pointless.

I wish you added power consumption to this comparison. It seems like no one is talking about how much less efficient the 9800X3D is over the 7800X3D.

9800x3d seems a bit disappointing, 8% on average, 11% in newer CPU demanding games. That IO die is really holding it back

I don’t think many people realize that these gains in 1080p will not be the same in 1440p or 4k. The amount of confusion from people is very common.

I noticed that I can run games much smoother with my 9800x3d and recently bought ENDGAME GEAR OP1 8K mouse
some games had some issues when I had the mouse in 8k polling Hz mode

It would be interesting to see some simulation heavy games. Civ 6 (and 7 later on), Stellaris factorio with a large factory or some similar game etc. For the players that are most interested in CPU performance it’s usually those games and the the simulation time in them that is most intersting. There is very much a real world benefit to having faster simulation time as it allows you to play more in a way and wait less time between turns.

So please don’t hurt me,

If I want to play single player games on high or ultra quality at 1440p with a 4090 per say, it doesn’t matter if I have a 7800x3d or 9800x3d. Is that correct? So I can save some money there?

Why aren’t you using the extreme profile on intel?

Great work👍

No 1440p and 4k benchmarks in AAA titles?

❤ War thunder ❤

I wish reviewers would add Darktide to the testing lineup idc if it’s not consistent

I get why everyone tests at 1080p for CPUs in games, but it would be nice if someone actually showed how important the processor was at 1440p or other resolutions, so say took a budget of $ $1000 split between CPU and GPU and showed what the various combinations of processor and graphics card would give you. I am sure there are Pro-Gamers that game at 1080p 2 inches from the screen because….. and some at the budget end that also do so too but are unlikely to have any 3d cache chips with in their range, but i am equally sure many day to day gamers are moving to 1440p or even 2160p as monitors for these resolution are so much cheaper and these reviews are not really that helpful in getting a balanced system for the gaming that they do.
I would expect only 4 or 5 games that best demo the differences rather than 45 games.

1080p is not real world for buyers of this chip.

No Steve you predicted that the 9800x3d would get zen% (5%). I called you out at the time and noted you were accounting for improved thermal performance that would allow high clocks that limited previous x3d gens. Please don’t try to illicitly cover yourself in glory! You even personally responded to me on youtube when I told you this!
Tons of people went out and bought 7800x3ds because of the predicitons you gave!!!! No they are FOMO’d!

R6, CS2, Fortnite benchmark included but where is PUBG? I can’t understand why you don’t test?

Much prefer this with 5 games at a time. My only suggestion would be to include the “best” single intel cpu on there as well just as a reference outside of AMD.

who’s playing with a 4090 and this CPU at 1080p ?! Do tests at least in 1440p !

While I agree with testing the way you and others do removing any GPU bottlenecks. But I do wish you would include even just a couple at 4k. And yes there is a reason, I highly doubt anyone running a 4090 and 7800x3d is gaming at 1080. For example I would love to see what if any difference there is between the 7800X3D and 9800X3D on say Cyberpunk with full path tracing and all bling turned on. Is there any difference? Would it be 8% like at 1080? Does the CPU increase help with the high end ray tracing? If so how much? So certainly not suggesting all titles, but maybe just a couple of the top end ray tracing titles from your recent ray tracing comparison video.

Appreciate the video, but I would have loved to see the 5800X3D on there as well!

where monster hunter wilds beta the heaviest game on cpu😢

9800x3d thermal performance is impressive too

I think i can keep my 7800x3d 🙂

Don’t agree with any of the reviewers on latest AMD CPUs. It’s 8% performance increase generation over generation at best with 9% price hike (449$ vs 479$).
Back in SkyLake days, every reviewer on earth was crying their lungs out how bad Intel is for releasing 10-15% improved generations without any price increases, but suddenly it’s a O K when AMD does it even worse. It wasn’t fine back then, it’s not fine now as well.

Honestly, only test I care to see now with this CPU are with a glorified tech demo that no one uses to test, but it is one of the most CPU hungry “games” I’ve played, and that being Star Citizen.

I’m running a 5800X3D/7900 XTX at 4K max settings, and there are so many times my GPU is just over there sitting around 60% usage. There are places, like the bigger cities and depot center facilities, that absolutely hammer the CPU. CPU doesn’t matter too much with other games I play, although I’m slightly CPU bound in some at times, but none to warrant an upgrade, but my 7900 XTX playing SC is just begging me to upgrade. I thought about the 7800X3D, but I’ve had my system since the R7 2700, as well have my 5800X3D BCLK OC’d boosting to 4.75Ghz single core and 4.65Ghz all core. Compared to my buddies 7800X3D, its neck and neck or slightly beneath his CPU in gaming, so haven’t seen any point in jumping to AM5, yet. I have a feeling this will be the year though.

No test of Party Animals? Your daughters won’t give it back? 😉 Seriously, my sons were wondering about Star Citizen and the new Monster Hunter demo. Those are the two games they play where they would like to see better performance.

Can I request for 45 game benchmark using max settings at 1440 and 4k? I know this is not how we test CPUs, but I’d like to know if upgrading to 9800x3d will be worth it at the graphics settings I play in. You can even split it into 2 videos, 1440 and 4k for more views 😅

I hope the 14xx tests are run at the new patched settings..
We need a reset on what that cpu is capable of , possibly followed by a class action lawsuit for deceiving buyers.

Waiting for the overclocked 9800X3D vs everyone benchmarks. Thats how most will use this cpu since it can oc.

Thanks for all the tests at 1080p, I understand it more gpu limited at 1440p and 4k, and 1080p shows the differences better between the cpus, i still would like some 1440p testing as well

I really don’t understand why people use 1080p to check a CPU. I know that resolution hits the CPU hardest but no one uses 1080p.

My lowest res monitor is 2k and my main monitor is 4K. What benefit do I get if a CPU performs better at 1080p?

I think 4k and 2k should also be included.

your argument for using 1080p falls apart in the gpu limited games, why not go to 720p in that case?

did you guys ever peek along the side of the heatspreader to see if you got a fabled 2 CCD 9800x3d (with one ccd disabled, a late-found bad 9950)?

240 out of the 1837 post are asking for 1440p! And then there are the request for 4k!

The reason why people want to see a few games (mainly non shooters) in 2k and 4k is because in real world how we run these games. When get GPU limited, sometimes the CPU being 10000 times faster get next to nothing in FPS. The data we’re looking for see if going to get any real-world gains from 7800x3d to 9800x3d. What would be the point of buying 9800x3d upgrade, if only play 2k or 4k gaming due to GPU bottleneck don’t see any FPS gains or very little for $500 you would be wasting.

No 1440p/4k 🙁

Could you test more Mmorpg online games like world of warcraft valorant pubg cs2 etc

starfield is one such game that’s an example of what holding onto a severely outdated game engine while doing next to no optimizations does to performance.

Be interesting if there is much performance to be had at 4k over a non x3d cpu.

AGain a review with 1080p why !!!! every AMD review is with shit 1080 ??

There are games CPU limited, there are games GPU limited, and there are games engine limited.
In “game engine” limited games you can’t get more than certain number of frames (it could be 200, it could be 144) even if add faster graphic card and CPU.
Usually it is related to internal clock of the game, engine can make certain number ticks per second, and no more and that is also maximal number of frames.

Good on AMD for accurate marketing this time around 👍 Gotta give credit when it’s due.
Great looking CPU, can’t wait to get one!

So hyped for the 9950X3D! Sucks it’s probably 2 months away.

So many data points, that is quite a solid representation of the performance.

I really like the graph orientation for comparison

I get why you (all reviewers, not just Hardware Unboxed) test CPUs at 1080P — that you are trying to force as many frames as possible in order to take the GPU out of the equation…

…but that doesn’t matter to me. I don’t game at 1080p, and only run a handful of games at 1440P. Most of the time, I am gaming at 4K, and the 1080P data doesn’t tell me if it is worth it to upgrade as the CPUs become bottlenecked by the GPU.

This testing is junk. Didn’t test in VGA to take the load off the GPU.

Cost per frame chart really shows how much of a beast the 7600x is still. If you’re on a budget and really can’t afford these high end CPUs, plus you’re not trying to maximize your gaming performance the 7600x is probably the best choice right now. It allows for future proofing because you can choose a motherboard that supports the 9800x3d upgrade later on, but also you can use ddr5. It might have 50 less frames than a 9800x3d, but it’s more than half the price.

Can we seee 9800x3D Overclocked with Memory OC vs Intel i9 Overclocked as well as memory OC?

4090 for 1080p Every day I learn something new. Thank you.

Why not add 1440p and 4K to the CPU tests?
CPUs Matter for 4K Gaming, More Than You Might Think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RR0FVQeqs

Hoping the 9800 will push down the 7K gen prices.

where’s my 1440p data

There’s a lot of us who have moved on the 4K now, so it would be great to see benchmarks at this level. Believe me, not all programs are GPU bound.

Erm… Why it was a “failure” when the same thing happened on the regular 9x’s over gens but 3xd was a “big success”?! It’s the same flop if you ask me…

MS FS 2020 was benched on 1080 low, sevevral memory speeds, 6000 vs 6400 vs 8400. At 8400 the 1% were massivley improved and the max framerate quite a bit too. It was the only outlier but showed that it is severely constrained by memory speed.

8% more performance is kinda disappointing. Especially since 9800X3D is a step backward in power efficiency. I wonder if 7800X3D had the same cooling/chip layout maybe it could match the 9800X3Ds performance.

I know it’s for the sake of comparison but people playing these games aint playing on 1080.

👍

Secured my 9800X3D today from newegg.

Why no one compare this cpu with apex legends? I see no one, I’m looking for it.

Hey can you please test an endgame Satisfactory save file? Test a game that’s REALLY CPU-hungry

Paying 2k for GPU and playing with 1080p resolution is waste of money, why not 480p 😂

Good format. 👍👍

Regarding the future 285K test,
one channel claimed that employing cuDIMM makes a large performance difference for this CPU, especially for gaming.
Do you intend to test that hypothesis ?

This channel is so amazing, always my go to when I want to know what’s the state on the art on GPU’s, CPU’s, monitors, RAM and so more. Couldn’t be happier to have found you!!!

Maybe you could do an overclocking video now that the X3D is an unlocked part? I wonder how far can it be pushed.

So Intel and AMD competing themselves now, but hey at least AMD finally honest (for) now

I think we need RTX 5090

I thought you test at 720p ?

Would like to see comparisons at 1440p

Would the Bordlerlands and COD6 results not speak for a Bottleneck by the 4090?

Any Aussie price comparisons because $460 USD is showing more like $800 AUD at the moment.

We haven’t yet seen what 4090 can really do

I would love it if you added an “esports” section to these reviews and quickly showed results of a few popular competitive multiplayer games using realistic competitive settings (e.g., performance mode for Fortnite). I know the market is small but I think there is an opportunity for you to become the definitive esports benchmarker for CPUs/GPUs, which should add to your viewership over the long term. You cover esports titles occasionally but I am talking about a consistent inclusion of these titles at lowest quality settings. Love the channel!

this is without any oc’ing it seems or pbo editing, so still more gains to be had as well!

you love to see it

I predict the 9950X3D will be three to five percent faster than the 9800X3D. I think they’ll let the clocks and power go higher with both CCDs having boosted cache.

Would really appreciate some real word 1440p or 4k testing with these two CPUs and 5800x3d. Will help me decide which to upgrade to, does it make a difference at those resolutions?

I bought a 9800x3d a month or 2 ago…..

Still, Watt for Watt the 7800X3D is still king by quite a margin. Which is kinda sad, I would have thought that efficiency didn’t go down that much.

Should have also included the 5800x3d.. Just sayin’. 😉

4K and 1440p game benchmarks? Just 1-2% better than the popular 5950x

1) I would have loved to see the uplift in 1% Lows, both in the full set and in the “future projection set”.
2) I would love to see a head-to-head of 1% Lows with RT enabled. Tim made a bit of a blunder in his last video and included results with 1% Lows in the mid 30s as being “good configurations”, and I’m especially curious to see if the 9800X3D makes any meaningful headway in this regard.

My brain is always calmer when Steve is seated 😂

CS with the much needed performance boost lol.

This just proves the cpus are way behind the gpus. No longer can we get cpus that can overclock by 25% and dont need an upgrade for several years. The cpu is almost always the bottle neck.

Am I the only one who read “HL” and was wondering where Half Life was on the charts? <3 :-)

Its fine if you dont want to include higher resolution benchmarks because it takes more time. However its undoubtable that higher res benchmarks give consumers a much better look into real world performance which can affect their purchasing descisions. Especially when most that will get this cpu won’t be running a 4090.

The really bad thing about all these “reviews” is that they call the X3D the new master of gaming, but they no longer tell you that this is only at 1080p and medium/high settings. Anyone playing 1440p or up will not notice any difference what so ever, but they will lose so much performance vs other CPUs for daily usage outsude of gaming.

It really is like all these channels are now AMD shills, paid to promote the AMD chips at all costs. Most players will not see a gain when switching to this chip, and most single-player gamers wil actually see a decrease in performance. These reviews are total c@ncer at this point. They used to show you 1440p/4K results so you could see there is not a single reason to get this cpu, but they have nicely omitted those data now.

Testing a CPU in 4k is like testing a tire but the car its mounted to is only allowed to go 30.. never reaches full potential

Can you test this at 1440 and 4K also?

45 games tested and PUBG isn’t one of them? That’s just disappointing.

That’s a lot of testing.

Bit of an off-topic, but did you guys applied a sharpening filter to the video? Or there’s some change in the YT compression? I’m noticing a positive improvement on the graph clarity even at 720p quality. Maybe the font?

What reviewing TechTubers should do is.

Benchmark at 1080p
Benchmark at 1440p
Benchmark at 2160p

And tell us what the percentage gains are for each resolution, this way a lot less desktop people will be mad at your one sided benchmarks.
Why is Linus the only person showing quick 1440p and 4K resolution, can you TechTubers explain that to the public?

It just means the Zen 5 has improved so much from Zen 4 that the bottleneck is now the infinity fabric. And the extra V-cache relieved the bottleneck.

Great video

An exciting PC build option.

I think I will wait for the last am5 gen. I have 5600 and 2060 super and barely get anytime to play video games. I think I should wait for 2 more years until the last am5 CPU comes out.

1440p, 4k?? 1080 with a 4090 is pointless

LOL. 1080p only, on 4090 seems kind of silly to me.
Higher resolutions would be far more realistic.
The gains are there, but don`t say much on such a low resolution.

Now do in 1440p and 4k and show it’s 3% gains lol

the lows seems to scale. also using ultra 1080p settings will make cpu transfer more gpu stuff than low settings. possibly more mesh triangles textures etc. more total system simulations will move to the gpus which have 16gb+ memory.

Can you do 5800x3d vs 9800x3d?

Impressive, most impressive, but my guess is if you can, get 7800X3D as it might be lower in price and is still 2nd best gaming CPU. In my country difference is like 150$ (450$ for 7800X3D vs 600$ for 9800X3D) including tax.

I’m just surprised there are “CPU limited” games that don’t benefit from an increase in clock speed. I didn’t pick up on it during the 9800x3d review. Aside from clock speed, number of cores, and amount of cache(specifically L3 in this case), what else can limit the fps result in a particular game?

Why no one talk about temperature?

4k pls -.-

Again 1080p. Lul. Let’s buy 9800x3d and 4090 to play at 1080p.

Well, I am a software engineer, and I definitely understand why you guys test these CPUs in the way you do to show the difference as much as possible without limiting CPU to be working at 30%, as mine 7800x3d does in 4K, but. But I have 4090, and I play in 4K. From your reviews, I do get that the new x3d CPU is kinda great, but I like have no idea what gain I, personally, would get in my scenario. I get it that it’s impossible to cover all niches of audience, but come on – who will buy this and play in 1080p… I basically don’t watch these in their entirety anymore and just skip to your conclusions, as there’s not much value to see 250 fps that go up to 276. And I also do understand that there’s probably 0 sense in upgrading 7800x3d to 9800x3d for 4K gaming – mine is already sitting at 30% and 40 degrees C in CP 2077 path tracing scenario, but would be good to know for future reference. Anyway, love your content and will continue watching and supporting.

Edit: Also wanted to add that in my experience with game engines CPU performance does not really scale linearly from resolution to resolution – which means if 9800x3d is 10-15% faster in those scenarios in 1080p than 7800x3d, there is no real guarantee it will be that much faster in 4K.

We don’t care for your 1080p benchmarks!!!
We are tired of translating your 1080p benchmarks to our1440p and 4K use cases!!!
We demand proper 1440p and 4K benchmarks!!!

I’ve been watching quite a few channels on the 9800x3d and they have all found better scores on the X870E and none E.
They have all said that the 870 chipsets seem to be more stable or attuned to the 9000 series CPUs especially the 9800X3D producing higher scores inc 1% & 0.1% frame rates overall.
So I was wondering if you have thoughts about running these tests on the newer chipsets instead of the X650 chipset?

Why battlefield 2042 which is very cpu demanding does not get benchmarked ?

Gears 5’s 1% lows are pretty terrible. Almost half what the average is. I haven’t played the game but I’d imagine thats pretty noticeable in gameplay.

I think the 5800X3D and 5700X3D should have been on the chart also (since you already had their benchmarks).
Edit: Those 1% jump in numbers is what impresses me the most. That means the Zen 5 architecture has really been upscaled.

Space marines!

Nearly everyone is glossing over the fact that the 9800x3d is an overclocking MONSTER with massive gains potential. Any Joe Schmoe with a basic AIO can overclock it to 5600mhz all-core, and for the tinkerers who are willing to delid it, we’ve already seen 5750 all-core clocks being achieved pretty easily on day 1 with just a basic OC. That is a 500mhz increase, so that 11% uplift in modern games could easily be closer to 16-18%, and even more extreme uplifts to the 1% lows.

can you testing on VR games (I know that it can run games and be playable i just want to see the performance)

can someone do the math for the average minimum framerate increate

Need to pair this with a 5090 on 4k with the 9800x3d, thanks

8:35 the benchmark map has 1% lows about 4x higher than the newer maps

1440p and 4k benchmarks plzzzzz… Nobody is buying a 4090 and 400$ chip to play in 1080……

Where the heck is Valorant??!??! and League!?!?

Turn PBO on and make Intel writhe

Just wondering. Why is noone talking about the 8000 series? Just 7 and 9000?

Might as well get a 9800X3D since the 7800X3D are god damn $450 right now.

Even thou most tests are “off hands” I am deeply sorry your team was forced to use that Dragon game.

As a side note: it would be nice to have some factorio/etc UPS/time per turn instead of FPS games tests too.

Total waste 1080p benchs…

I understand that You’ve just tested max of those cpus, but realistically who has 4090 and 9800X3D and goes with 1080p?? Please provide us with some more realistic scenarios like 1440p, uwqhd, 4k maybe? Or it will just show small to none uplift in fps those it’s not worth showing?

love the new 5 games at a time format for the massive benchmark versus videos, so much neater and more efficient use of space and time

100% agree with the beginning of the video, but 1440p and 4k data would be super useful for making informed purchases.

But, but, but… What about the R7-5800X3D? 😁

Jay overclocked the 9800x3D and undervolted it and got even more gains, another person even got it to 5.7ghz please test maximum overclocks would love to see how much more y’all can milk out of this bad boy 😉

Things I am mostly interested in 9000X3D are:
1) Does RAM speed/latency affect performance as much as with non-3D models when you have a dual chiplet model like 9950X3D.
2) Does 9950X3D finally have 3D-cache on both chiplets and how does it fare in not only gaming, but also productivity.
3) Will there be another AM5 CPU series, basically a 10000 or 11000 series.
4) Will there be a 3D cache Threadripper CPU. Ryzens have quite limited number of PCIe lanes.
5) A real life example benchmark for upgraders: basically take a 7700X, 7950X and then 9800X3D and 9950X3D, faster GPU that is available and test a couple of games with settings people might actually use outside benchmarking, like 4K DLSS Q to show if there is a performance difference worth the upgrade even at higher settings.

Tho I get why reviewers test cpu’s at 1080p, are ya really buying a CPU that costs as much as a console to play at 1080p 😂

Glad I don’t have to upgrade my 7800x3d for awhile

AMD is where it’s at for gaming CPU’s. RIP Intel

no 1440p = useless. yes i know why u test in 1080p. that doesn’t mean u can’t show a few 1440p comparisons also.

Wonder whats the difference between them when using higher resolution / graphic settings.

i like this format

Good lord that alot of testing Done and so much more to go! Good luck and thank you! even though ive got my 7800x3d secured and building the system with a 7900xtx soon as i get this back log of systems out of the floor an recycled or given away, one im prepping to give my boss for his daughters.

Now let’s see a benchmark with a 4070ti and see how they perform the same lol. I got the 7800x3d for a suck deal but if I had to do it again I would have kept my old system and just got the 5700x3d. There really isnt much point unless you run the higest end card and play games a low resolution :p

what about the averages at 1440p, anyone buying the cpu most likely isn’t 1080p, does 1080p just show more of the cpu bc the gpu can handle that easily?

That’s it, just benchmarks? No further tests, such as overclocking, undervolting, temperatures? I’d like to see how it behaves when you bring the frequency down to 7800x3D’s level and then make a direct comparison… now that the vcache is below the ccd, it should be way cooler and maybe still faster. 🙂

no need to compare with intel to be honest at this point…

No 5800X3D ?😢

4k benchmarks when?

What a tremendous work ! Thanks a lot ! Really professional approach ! Love from France !

I would like to see 1440P and 4K averages, especially since I have a 1440P 144 Hz monitor and thinking about getting a 240 Hz 4K monitor

Ehh. Please please please – 4k data. DLSS performance at 4K. This was really boring to watch… Test at 720p – wow look at the frame rate, we don’t care that its not relevant, as everyone plays at 4K – look at those high 720P numbers. Oh nooo, lets go 480P, wow the performance is mind blowing. The kids in 90’s would be rolling on the floor in agony…. The pixelated mess!

Imagine the results if using “turbo-mode” + PBO enabled + EXPO. bOOOOM!!

Good review, thanks! Steve, how about a matchup with the 12700K using DDR4-3600-CL18? I suggest this pairup bc there’s probably quite a few people with this CPU and RAM combo, people who bought into Alder Lake early in 2021 or 2022, when DDR5 was exhorbitantly expensive, and who want to know if the 9800X3D is a worthwhile upgrade or not.

I’m quite disappointed with your review. You test it with 4090/1080p although most users would use a 4090 with 4K. But 4K won’t show much difference right? Well in one of your videos in this channel you argued differently given DLSS. So why not include benchmarks with 4K+DLSS to see if these cpu offer much change?

All benchmarks being 1080p is ridiculous

I’d like to echo some other comments here of people wondering about 1440p and 4k benchmarks because those are better real world scenarios for people that are buying high end CPUs and not playing esports titles.

Obviously 1080p is going to show the biggest contrast between CPUs specifically, but it would be nice to know how much the high end GPUs at the higher resolutions even really care about CPU performance.

what about power consumption on those games?

8% avarage on 1080 whish you were give 2k and 4k avarages aswell coz imagining buying this product mainly focused on 2k or 4k gaming, coz for 1k there are much more buget friendly options out there we should be talking C suit on this i think don’t u agree?

Nope…im waiting for the battle of x3d’s chip on rt games at 4k video!!

Soooooooooo keep my 7800x3d?

KING AMD !!!

Thank you guys for your hard work and the extensive benchmarks that you are doing.Whenever I want to know how a new release is performing the only place I look is here because I know I will get the best non-biased review on the internet. Keep up the good work and thank you again 🙇

Damn, that’s crazy fast

Hello Harware Unboxed! Please ignore if you are aware.

I just want to point out that Call of Duty games need little tweak in game’s ini file which is in Documents folder. Typically auto given value is amount of total cores, instead of 7 for (8 thread CPU) and 5 for (6 thread CPU).

This is my own test results with 7950X3D with X3D driver working normal, pump and fan speed set to 90% speed.

There are Average FPS, 5% Low, 1% Low and Bottleneck Percentage.

Render 5
avg 490 491 492
5th 377 379 378
1th 313 311 310
neck 51% 51% 52%
Render 6
avg 510 513 511 513 515
5th 386 392 388 396 395
1th 324 331 327 338 332
neck 39% 37% 39% 37% 35%
Render 7
avg 513 512 518 515 514 511
5th 387 392 400 392 387 390
1th 326 327 344 335 327 333
neck 37% 37% 35% 37% 38%
Render 8
avg 498 500 499 494 497
5th 376 381 382 374 377
1th 317 317 328 316 322
neck 44% 43% 44% 47% 46%
Render 9
avg 489 489 488
5th 370 370 368
1th 310 310 314
neck 50% 50% 51%

Wow. Crazy! I’m still using the ryzen 9 5900xt

its worth having 1440p testing, at least on some games, so people can actually tell if its worth upgrading or not.

Your rainbow 6 seige 1% lows differ wildly form gamers nexus steave’s his where in the 200’s for all x3d chips and only 14900k has good 1% lows

Are motherboards beta bios safe?

My Ryzen 3600 works fine. I will upgrade in 2028.

Damn, I already got 7800x3D for 225 USD at Microcenter back in August..now 9800x3D is even better

A signed HUB 7800x3d would be an interesting auction item.

You didn’t test Escape from Tarkov which the 3dvcache truly shines.. makes me understand how much you don’t know about this CPU as well as Star Citizen would be a good candidate to see the difference…

Hi, showing 5 games at a time is optimal to digest all the data

I gave my 5800X3D PC away as a wedding present and gave myself an ASUS (I can contact ASUS unlike Lian Li whom I will never buy any of their garbage again) X670E Pro WiFi and 7800X3D. My monitor is a 4K Hisense 55U8G and a HellHound 7900XTX. I do not play ANY of the games benchmarked…..I’ve been playing Guild Wars 2 for a bit over 4 years now instead.

I really do understand you using 1080P for CPU benchmarks, but all the data presented is rather moot for me as no one is giving me a 4090 (nor do I want the fire starting 12 pin connector), my game doesn’t have performance killing RT and I play at 4K. I looked at a lot of options for upgrading my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 and the HellHound was ~$400+ cheaper than the 4080 when I bought it. No end-of-life crisis for me (71 currently) to waste money on a 4090, just to say I had one.

I’ve test gamed (GW2, Elder Scrolls and WoW) a reference 6900XT and a HellHound 7900 GRE, plus various GPU reviews. The XTX is a bit of overkill for GW2. If you don’t have a burning need to find respawn points by stopping and looking around with RT enabled, then logging out to disable it to see if you can spot any difference (besides a ~50% increase in FPS), buy an OLED or high-end (~$800) 4K TV and don’t bother with RT. My audio is by BOSE, so I do spend $ on my hobby, but $2000+ for fire starting and other features I will never use or want to, is a bit obscene.

Suggestion: Use an OLED and 4K monitor, 5800X3D, 7800X3D, 9800X3D, 4070 SUPER, 4080 SUPER, 4090, HellHound GRE and 7900XTX and subjectively (as YouTube is at 720P bleh) rate the visuals and show the 1% lows as that is a pretty good indication of smoothness or lack thereof. You know my opinion, but I feel this would give your viewers an idea of where to spend their money for best effect. YouTubes low bit rate makes rather pointless screen shots of how “amazing” RT is.

I’d like a glance at 4k I only play in that resolution..

Another site posting pointless 1080p benchmarks. If someone has a 4090 they are going to run this at 4K on ultra settings. 1080p shows you raw performance increase BUT if someone has a 14900K for example they want to see what the uplift will be in a normal scenario, in other words if they are gaming at 4K on ultra settings what would be the performance increase if they switched to the 9800X3D platform because it won’t be 20% or 30% it’s likely to be 5% – 10% as a wild guess, which would be number they would need to know to determine whether they fork out the £1000 to switch. Even gamers on 7800X3D would want to know the uplift at 4K on ultra because that’s where they will be gaming. In my opinion a “gaming” CPU is actually just a gimmick because most gaming PC’s are bottlenecked by the GPU anyway.

Got my 9800x3d for $454 from Microcenter. Cant wait to finish the build.

How about a benchmark in DCS? (Digital Combat Simulator). It is a CPU heavy game, I think… Depending on the mission.

need to stop testing on highest GRAPHICAL settings. you are not comparing JUST the cpu’s in this case because there is another factor and that’s the gpu. you don’t want to EVER be limited by the gpu. the bottleneck should be the cpu in every single game/test, if it isn’t then the test/game is invalid as a testing item.

also 1% lows, should do a avg graph (like normal) but also include a 1% low graph as well. 1% lows are much more important because having higher 1% lows means less felt stutter.

9800X3D are sold out everywhere, so I’m NOT excited 😉
I will buy Intel instead – cannot wait or pay extra for “unoficial reseale”

Hey Steve, thanks for the tests, quick question: What Test are you using for the Warhammer III Benchmarks? Campaign or Battle? Or something else? Thanks!

I wish you did some cpu and gpu testing in VR, even if it was just using virtual 3d screens. Thanks much for all the testing you do though!

Why not test @ 4K? Who uses crappy low res 1080p?

I dont get why no one reviews these kind of CPUs in a game like Rust, what a waste

This is almost useless for people who game at 1440p and 4k. If a game is 9% faster at 1080p but 2% faster at 1440p or 4k then a 7800x3d owner may decide not to upgrade. I could argue these figures are even misleading consumers. Please please include 1440p and 4k benchmarks as well.

The real benchmark is “RGB on VS RGB off”

Why are they done at 1080p? Should I expect the same increases with 1440p and 4k

it took a new x3d to sit steve down! its a miracle!

Still testing at 1080p. When will HU ever learn?

Do you think if they released a 9600X3D it could be faster than the 7800X3D in gaming?

Intel doesnt even exist hahaha

glad AMD actually showed some innovation in design that yields a real up tic in performance for consumers but going to stick with my 7800x3d for now ..

Where are the tests in 1440 and 4K? At least a couple should have been added

You need to test more simulation games like factorio, rimworld, cities skylines 2, planet coaster, and a hugely modded minecraft pack with distant horizons loading in the world around you! It’s those games that really matter!

They dont want to show 4k or 1440p because the gap isnt there.

And here I am wanting a 5700x3d but cannot justify it, 5600 at 1440p with a 4070 going strong

Test these 2 cpus with shooters on low detail

What monitor displays over 600 fps?

lol 1080p peasants 😂

Where is world of warcraft? WOW is the most CPU required games nowdays

Would you be doing an OC benchmark as well? i’m hearing another 5 to 15 percent in performance in certain games?

Ah yes, the classic RTX4090 + 1080p combo

The 1% lows look to be a winning story as well!

So it’s so fast that it’s no longer the bottleneck at 1080p in some cases.

Granted for me at least CPUs have been “fast enough” for a long time now. It’s the fringe cases where I suffer, like the times I play WoW, but in general have jumped to 4K now and my GPU has been the bottleneck almost always with a 5800X3D.

Overall it’s cool tech, but am really more excited if they’d do a zen5+X3D with an updated memory controller or what Zen6 might offer.

I’m always annoyed that big multi-game benchmarks like this never include World of Warcraft. I get that it’s hard to benchmark consistently, but I guarantee it has more players than a lot of these games.

I did my own testing using the 10-man story mode Queen Ansurek fight as a benchmark. (3840×1600, RTX 4090, graphics on high, all my standard addons).

I got an average FPS of 166 with the 7800X3D, and 192 with the 9800X3D. A 16% improvement.

1% lows were 81 FPS on the 7800X3D and 96 FPS on the 9800X3D. A 19% improvement.

Hopefully anyone looking for WoW: The War Within benchmarks will find this useful.

I would suggest using PvP MMOs for cpu testing as in my experience these are the most cpu reliant games even on high resolution and graphics. Games like the recently released throne and liberty would be a good example if tested during world boss events or even inside a city during prime time.

Thanks for the “new benchmarks”.

What the 9800X3D is truly a replacement for is the 5800X3D. This is the one it should’ve been compared to. Most people who would buy this CPU won’t switch to it from 7800X3D, but exactly from 5800X3D.

I’m wondering in the scenario’s where there’s a small 1% differents. I’m imagine if RTX 5090 will give it a higher numbers, if the 4090 is the bottleneck.

first of all aint no one spending $700 on a cpu playing at 1080p so this whole video is pointless, second where is black ops 6? 45 games but didnt include one of the most popular games right now.

Thanks for doing the work. I think it would be useful to get a couple of games where you test them at higher scalings, it makes it easier to see if at 2k and 4k it really makes an upgrade difference, though I do understand why that isn’t the testing range.
Really useful to see the difference between the 2 though. Thanks for all the hard work

No PUBG 🙁 or final fantasy

I would love to see a 9800x3d gauntlet test of “older” gpus like the 6950xt and the 3090/ti to see if they have any performance left on tap

AMD being honest is a win for the company. Maybe someone there is listening…

30 dollar expensive, overclocked 7800x3d would give same scores.Where is next generation benefits.

I understand why you test at 1080p but it would be nice to aee aome extremely limited testing at 1440p and 4k to see if there is any benefit at all in upgrading. My guess is the answer is almost always no

Thank you so much for all this hard work Steve ! take care