its always impressive how Bethesda always manage to mess up simple things😂

It fires the whole bullet. That’s 50% more bullet than conventional guns!

So you got a company, that owns a company that has *perfected* shotgun design for more or less 40 years (with one specific exception) and they can’t be bothered to *not* fuck it up?

Classic Bethesda

You know, I wanted to play starfield but #1 I can’t play it and #2 it seems like they put no effort into the game

The guns suck in this game… but yet are not the worst problem somehow

Does it matter its just a game it doesn’t have to be completely realistic

Man bethesda hurts me so much with their guns

Now they’re just taking the piss

Nah that’s one of those futurific finger print scanning ID locked touch sensor trigger. War has changed. It’s no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It’s an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War – and its consumption of life – has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control . . . All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield . . . controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control . . . War becomes routine.

You dont even need gun experts. Just sit the weapon designers in front of a few Demolition Ranch videos lmfao. Tbis is the most BASIC SHIT they fuckin.up

Minecraft looking shotgun

maybe someone already did the joke, but I can’t be arsed to check.
The gun is very futuristic, as it fires via bluetooth.

Damn these guns make Fallout’s guns look more realistic

not to mention those bullets wouldn’t even work in a square chamber, since they’re, y’know… round.

You know sci fi is the hardest genre when you talking about weapon design. It’s the same guy who design guns from Fallout 4

The DOOM 1 Shotgun (and DOOM 2 Super Shotgun on that matter) actually have better stock positioning than this, their wooden stock aren’t visible in the sprites, implying that Doomguy either properly shoulders it or is holding the gun near his hip, both are miles better than John/Jane Starfield over here decking their own face with the butt of the firearm equivalent of a gummy bear pizza.

Ngl this is extremely lazy on the device part. Don’t care about crunch time this is just sad.

You actually make a choice to talk like that.. thats a decision you’re making…..

To be fair… Bethesda fucked up the double-barrel in Fallout 4 as well.

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Im tired of being told that theyre “just as good at making games as they ever were” . No, Bethesda is full of LAZY, incompetent children who just dont want to work hard.

Does anyone understand its future tech? Triggers can be replaced with touch sensors…. Reinforced barrels are basic for unknown rounds… ask smith & Wesson they know… besides if you want a shotgun that works… would you care how it works? Or if it works…

Why when you aim is your view behind the stock ?

To fire the gun you have to shake it very vigorously

I hate it when people attack small details on games. Idc about how the the bullets work. How is the overall experience of the game.

The thing that really makes me cringe is that they saw wood on a rifle and thought “oh its a hunting rifle” when in actually it was a HIGHLY specialized rifle meant for the special forces used by the Russians, plus the rifles fire bullets as if their smooth bore

It’s a game that’s meant to be played to have fun and escape from reality. If you have such a problem with it, go work for them and help them fix it

California compliant ass shotgun

I was so disappointed in this game

Literally no one cares about stuff like this. You have to record and freeze the frame just to see it. Making issues where there should be none. You’re letting the fact that it has amateur ejecting animations ruin the whole game for you.. kind of petty, don’t you think? Borderline pathetic, even.

CASELESS ammo for a DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN??? WTF is wrong with these idiots??

The worst part is you can find them with the extended magazine effect. Somehow it can hold 4 rounds.

I kinda wanna play and mod the nee elder scrolls with guns but i cant get off the frist planet without crashing to desktop…

They added a trigger for it finally! 😅

Ah yes, caseless shotgun shells…. so, pellets being poured in? Caseless implies that the grain is in the bullet…. shells have pellets… so what the actual hell?

It’s really sad how long Bethesda will go now. Like you didn’t even put a trigger on it? It’s just sad. It makes me worried for the new elder scrolls, and especially for fallout 5.

jesus christ they stole a double barrel shotgun asset from Roblox

A combination of classic and modern, the result…….. looks like crap

DEI hires who don’t know guns:

“We have Conditional Finality at home”
The conditional Finality at home:

Come on bethesda, it’s a double barrel shotty. It’s not that hard. It’s like you stepped up to bat, swung, and hit yourself in the dick. Your company is dying, get it together!

… It’s a video game….

You call of duty players need to get over yourselves.

I got one that had an ammo capacity of 4

Still one of the best shotguns in the game though put the hive rounds in it just be careful not to kill yourself in game

Ah classic Bethesda! Don’t fix it, just remove it entirely!

Dont forget the doble barrel that holds 4 shells

Pov: this is literally a video game

What?? I’ve seen this gun here and there (haven’t played the game or seen it in action)

Aesthetically, I really liked it when I thought it was a rail gun or something with some fancy custom wood furniture.

Thats really stupid. I hate that it’s just an future styled SxS

Caseless shotgun shells, huh..? Then what tf do you put in the gun when you reload it??

The shell ejecting animation is goofy ahh

Same reload animation as fallout 4s double barrel too. No shame at all.

Pretty sure there are mods or special versions of it that can have more than 2 shells in it at once and fires shell after shell rather than all at once

Who the fuck wants to play with a double barrel and not have the satisfaction of the automatically dispensed cartridges?

how do u forget a trigger😂

This is so stupid… How the fuck are they fucking this up? How hard was it to not suck with such a cool premise?

Looks like ai generated gun😐

I just cant tolerate Bethesda anymore, they’ve become like valve where its just waiting for something that wont ever come like Wolfenstein 3(i know published but still), fallout 5, elder scrolls 6, etc

Y’all really mad about videogame guns

They make double barrel rifles

Silly man from the 2000s. It’s a touch sensitive trigger, It’s taped to shoot not pull to shoot

typical Bethesda experience

Hahahahaha

You’re assuming guns in the future have mechanical triggers

Idk why but I like dumb shotguns in games

It’s like the weapons are from a Minecraft mod

Womp womp nitpick

Bethesda is legitimately the worst in the AAA industry in so many areas. it’s astounding that they haven’t gone bankrupt.

Horrible AI, terrible cutscenes, garbage graphics, 2004 facial animations, horrendous gunplay in general, can’t even design a gun right. I just don’t understand how they still sell amy games, they’re just so half-assed it’s pathetic.

As usual just trust the nexus community to release some functional weapons and animations

This is such a non issue though, like this is nitpicking at its finest

You can’t get trigger if you don’t add one for the gun.

I think it looks sweet lol

Bro’s on beef mode with bathesda

Stopped playing mostly because the guns just didn’t hook me.
They did all this research eith NASA for the space travel but didn’t consult anyone in the defense industry?

What? you haven’t heard of motion censoring triggers?

This is actually just despicable. The game industry is implodinh cuz you can only keep people entertained with fancy light shows for so long until they wake up and realize there is a real world out there.

That’s piss poor

You could justify the bulkiness and size by it being a caseless gun so for heat management or smth

Bethesda is the epitomy of half assing and half baked thoughts. So fucking funny when people fall for their bullshit every single time

Bro it’s just a gun. There’s way more gun arsenals out there that even make less sense.

Fuck Todd Howard fire his ass before he ruins Elder scroll 6 in 6 years time and fallout 5 in 10 years #firetoddhoward

Bro who fucking cares ? Just play the game . Like this is such a non issue. Maybe go loose your virginity

Hideous gun aside Thinking about it a double barrel with careless ammo would actually kinda work(?)

how bad can u design guns… bethesda: say no more.

Why not just include a regular coach gun? Why’d they have to make such an awful monstrosity?

But if it uses rifle rounds…is it even a shotgun?

it’s even possible to aim without kissing the stok?

It’s funny cause the double barrel is the easiest design for a gun due to not many mechanics involved, it’s why I love designing sci fi versions of it

Saddest part is people played this game long enough to notice

…..They made Fallout. How the hell did they get so low as to do this with their weapons? Fallout did a good job with their firearms designs and functionality.

I actually really like the design.

Bethesda has gotten double barrels right in the past. And to be fair most games get reloads wrong in third person.

I actually like the boxy look of the coachman, but I could also be biased because a purple coachman carried me through my first play through

Yeah yeah everyone knows that bethesda sucks at modeling and animating weapons by now.

I just don’t understand how Bethesda’s weapon design is so consistently bad

Bethesda is so unique at making gun designs that everyone hated it

At the very least they’re consistently bad with their gun designs 😂

Bethesda quality

U sound like krieger from archer

Is this a problem bc like you hate it or are we just bitching to bitch

How can you fucked up with a fucking shotgun? Bethesda, shotgun is a no brainer gun out of all gun second to 1800 flintlock

Anything made by Bethesda lately will likely be hot steaming garbage.

Just return the game, not worth the headache. Bethesda needs to stick to elder scrolls and not space games.

Aw, were the guns in your sci Fi fantasy game not “realistic” enough? 😂

This alone is enough for me to not pay for ES6. Think of all the money from fallout 4 and Skyrim plus their shitty ass mobile game bs they released called ESO and fallout whatever. And they STILL can’t animate shit right. Insane. And they think the newest starfield dlc is their best game ever? They’re boofing crazy pills.

When looking at futuristic fire arms in games, never say “this doesn’t work, it doesn’t make sense”. Obviously it doesn’t works, it’s from the future. Instead ask “what would it take to make this work? What situation could this be in to make this make sense.”

And they only had forever too develop the game.

Remember folks there are people who defend Bethesda and that pile of steaming crap

How can you forget the trigger to the gun

I really wish Bethesda would get an actual gun designer on board to actually design guns that make sense. Because it’s now been made obvious that no one at Bethesda knows shit about guns. And because gun companies have become super stingy on having their guns in games, Bethesda can’t just model actual guns into the game.

Vote to culturally appropriate Bethesda into the hands of nerds so we can actually make shit we want OF the IP’s we love WITHOUT BEING SUED FOR DOING SO?!

When will people realise bethesda makes terrible games. Skyrim was only good because of the overall size of the game. We were so concerned with what we could do, we never stopped to look at how bad the things we were doing actually were

What does it matter?

Are we sure this isn’t a Ork weapon?

Ngl the no trigger is the first thing I noticed

Caseless shot would tear up something like that. Also, square holes can be good – there’s a form of experimental rifling that starts the barrel as a circle but slowly transforms into a twisting square as the barrel descends, which adds rifling to a smoothbore by giving the bullet corners of air to push it into a twist as it comes out. It’s really ingenious. But I think if you’re gonna do square, don’t make the chamber end of the barrel square, do the twisting square thing at the firing end of the barrel. I’d like to see more firearms produced with that design

No trigger, no problem. “It just works”😅😂

That iron sight view is hysterical. The stock in proportion to real life would be jammed up against your chin. Can you imagine shooting a gun of any kind, let alone a shotgun of any kind, with the stock lined up on your chin? Oof 😂

Please Bethesda how do you make such a fuck up on such a simple weapon

Frankly it feels like Bethesda is shitting on playerbase on purpose, whole damn Starfield is essentially a combination of everything people were making fun of in their previous games turned up to 11:

Guns? Yeah we made some really stupid looking completely nonsensical designes in fallout 4 like water cooled assault rifle, institute rifle that takes 1/3rd pf the screen in fpp etc. So in starfield most the guns just dont male sense, look weird and outta place.

Game engine and gameplay? Ye its still the same slightly updated engine we used since god damn 2010, same with quests.

Gameplay loop? Essentially Fallout 4 but with empty maps.

Bethesda being dipshits when it comes to firearms is a longstanding tradition going back to at least Fallout 3; have you SEEN their combat shotgun?

I thought it was also ejecting the cartridges as it fired but that was the enemies gun flying around very realistically

Those barrel walls look over a centimetre thick

Bethesda should be ashamed of their lack of effort. It’s become very clear though that they’re incapable of shame. They’ve been really testing people’s patience with their lazy, uninspired trash. “Just how many corners can we cut this time?” “How much longer can we milk our desperate fans?”

I really think starfield gave me a greater appreciation for sci-fi designs in other games and media. The halo shotty for example, another strange looking thing but when you break it down, it actually still seems to function and the design choices that differ from modern day examples can be explained based on the setting of the game and function of the weapon. TL;DR Rule of cool doesn’t work if it doesn’t look cool, sorry Starfield.

When youre so far on the left, you refuse to even consult with someone with gun knowledge

It could’ve been interesting if they made that bore larger. Instead what looks like a 12 gauge they could’ve gone with a 10 or 8 gauge round. And the break action, to make it a little more futuristic while maintaining most of the animation, the trigger hand could have a thumb lever to activate the release for action. Kinda like an oversized slide release on a pistol

At this point I’m just going to believe Bethesda gets the most uninformed anti gun journalists to design guns for them, the abominations they make just aren’t normal

I don’t use this gun for a reason

This is the first i heard that this was a double barrel shotgun. I didn’t know it was possible to hate this design more.

I feel like third person for the player was added as an afterthought because “Bethesda games has to have it.”

If I’m to be generous I think they simplified the reload in third person because it was just meant for NPCs you were fighting. It didn’t have to look fancy or accurate but just had to convey to the player that the enemy was out of ammo for a moment or two.

Bro just compared to a gun from A DIFFERENT GAME (the SBS from FC5

Unless you’re firing a projectile that matches that shape if the bore, the projectile will tumble and most likely with this shape will nick the bore and can be very dangerous. So those rifle round would mess somethin up in your barrel with the first shot

It’s probably because they kept only the liberal workers at the company, that’s why they include gay stuff in their games just like all the other triple A corporations.

Dude must be built like the Crimson Chin to hold the gun like that.

Returned it after 30 mins of playtime. it was terrible for how long they spent making it.

Go touch grass guys.

Yea it’s unrealistic but it is pretty fun to use w hornet rounds

Classic bethesda😂😂😂 and some clowns think they make masterpieces

What the fuck Todd?

Todd? Look at me . . .

What the acutal fuck?

The heck would be a caseless shotgun shells? The only way that would be possible would be if its a slug or does every little pellet have gunpowder in them and miraculously everything gets ignited and flys in the correct direction

Who needs their nose anyway

No the entire game you just have schizophrenia and don’t actually know how guns work

Bethesda nah Bethugda

I can forgive the shells, but I will never forgive the ads with the coachmen

most promising weapon mechanics in 2024 Creation Engine

Jesus every time I see anything starfield related I remember how I spent like 70 bucks on this literal dumpster fire of a game

Bro ngl I was disappointed with starfield. I was on the hype train because man the trailers looked awesome. The solar system’s just feel kinda empty yk and they kind of stretched the truth in the trailers to make it seem more appealing. It’s not a bad game but it’s definitely not for me

This is because Bethesda is a developer in Japan where they have no guns, so none of the devs know how guns work.

-100% more bullet per bullet

It’s oversized since the shotgun we use for 12 gauge is 12.7mm in diameter, yet the case less shotgun is 20mm which is almost double the size. Like I said, this guy is retarded

I cant loe i kind of like th guns design. Has that weird wooden future retro vibe from the 70s, but i get why peplle didnt like it and if i was a dev i would have definitely told someone this shit aint gonna go over well with the players lol

Even valve games have better gun logic

Looks like they copied the animation right out of f4 too

This is why I usually turn Starfield into Star Wars or Halo.

Wait or don’t I don’t care but it’s a game. I care very little if some guns don’t work like they are supposed to. What matters is the overall game. Even ifs it’s 5 guns I still wouldn’t be bothered. As long as the game works. Sorry you stuck waiting on parch notes.

It’s like Bethesda hired a bunch of people who are scared of guns to make guns….. just like 343 Industries did with Halo Infinite.

so they fucked up coolest part of a double barrel reload, slamming open the chamber and watching the bright red spent shells eject gracefully with smoke, and instead of fixing it they were just like “oh i guess you dont like it at all then” like butthurt losers and removed it completely.

Cyberpunk is greater.

8 years Todd… You had 8 years.

Nah it’s a touch trigger like a touchscreen. No need for useless stone age trigger.

Shoutout to HL2 for fucking up a double barrel shotgun, but still making it awesome.

They are just inept.

Bethesda: if we can fuck it up, we WILL fuck it up

Who the fuck cares it looks cool

You wpuld never be able to sight that shotgun… your cheek rests at the level of the sights…

Ugly yes, effective yes

People really just like ruining fun for others huh?

Meanwhile the Helldivers animation team spends hours including every little detail like trigger discipline, or dropped mags having a different visual depending on how much ammo it had left, and more

This is the sort of thing you’d expect to find if you downloaded a free FPS from Steam in 2009.

When you hire DEI developers….. 🤷‍♂️🤣

Why does anyone even buy the slop put out by this company? They aren’t what they once were, it’s time to let go.

What game is this?

Explain that one Emil!

Didn’t one of the designers say they don’t like guns?

Warframe has a futuristic looking double barrel and it kinda looks better.

Honestly if you took off the stock this wouldnt look half bad.

Its still stupidly large, but you’d actually be able to break it open without letting go of the grip.

Dear God, I’m NEVER purchasing this game.

The gun in the game looks like you’d hunt squirrels with

God bethesda. I never played starfield but what the fuck guys.

This is supposed to be Bethesda’s flagship product???

Hahaha they didn’t want to model the shells coreectly, so they just got rid of them all together.

Whats a lazy joke of a company.

I think it’s cool. Cope.

I LOVE a good double barrel shotgun, and they aren’t hard to do fuck doom 64 did I perfectly, that looks like shit and the case ejecting is like half of the best part of it

Seriously everyone who makes this have never owned a gun

Bluetooth trigger

I, for one, do not care if guns are “realistic” enough in a sci-if fantasy game

Ignoring the square chamber and rifle rounds, this is the most unfinished garbage I’ve ever seen

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?

isnt their studio in texas? How do they not know what a gun is?

This guys the nitpick final boss

It almost looks like the Assault Rifle from “The Outer Worlds”.

We get it. The game is garbage.

Wow. Just wow. They need to rub two brain cells together to generate a thought, to guess what they screwed up, so they can rub two more brain cells that they had to generate together to figure out how to fix it. And on top of all that, they still can’t figure it out. Maybe they should, you know, HIRE ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT GAMERS TO FIX THEIR BROKE ASS BULLSHIT!!!! But what do we, the consumers, actually know.right?

I still like the sci fi barrel shrouds. But lord. That’s not a stock. That’s a besa block with wood furniture.

I wonder why Bethesda is always forgetting to put pieces of the weapons when making the model, they should double check that so people stop mocking them

Seriously why do people still waste money on AAA games

Aka no one at that studio cares about their new IP or else it would have some damn polish.

They did a dlc you should do everything wrong with the dlc weapons

Looks cool as hell though so who cares

PoV: your mad when a scfy game has a scfy weapon.

Also fallout 3, fallout 4, doom, bethesda does double barrel good

I never use it, it just sucks

It’s like they TRIED to make it goofy/unrealistic

Caseless shotgun shells makes 0 sense unless you are shooting slugs, at that point why even use a shotgun if rifles exist

The problem is that the designs are only made to look cool, not practical. If it was a good working design then it would already be in production for real firearms.

At least it’s… possible. Aside from the trigger.

Why does Bethesda let their toddlers design the weapons. None of them make any sense, all of them are comically oversized usually. Alot of “rifles” shoot really small rounds and the rifles shooting something like .50 do piss poor damage.

it’s just a laser tag gun

U can’t have a Bethesda with a bit of Bethesda magic ✨️

Imagine a world where people sit around and bitch that a made up gun in a game wouldnt function in real life……… 😂 God yall are fucking sad

The trigger is touch sensitive. No actual trigger needed

Honestly they could’ve kept the rifle round and just made it an elephant gun

“To see what’s out there…” I’m too busy looking at what’s not here

Is it really that hard to do research?

the kicker is that the fallout double barrel shotgun is perfectly fine.

Honestly that’s just nitpicking, a lot of these no ordinary players would notice or care about

Worst part is the stock. I suppose you would have to put the butt on your face to actually use the irons… or you could just clip your face through the stock…

Not even having a trigger is just insulting. Theres is absolutely no way Bethesda spent as much time and money working on this game as they claim.

I legit thought it was SUPPOSED to be a rifle WHAT

They just let an eight year old go ham with the weapon designs. They give him crayons and he starts scribbling and making “pewpewpew khhhssh” sounds.

Every time I think, “Maybe I’ll try Starfield, maybe its not that bad…” Bethesda convinces me not to.

Thanks Bethesda!

I love starfield

OH BETHESDA HOW LONG CAN YOU GO ON TRYING TO RELIVE YOUR GOLDEN DAYS OF OBLIVIONS (GLITCHES – FEATURES) WITH OUT TRYING, NOW YOUR JUST A PONG GAME ON A 13 INCH BLACK& WHITE 1970 TV, THATS MISSING THE ANTENNA & DIAL,😂🤣

Such a lazy fix. You’d think Bethesda is an indie studio

It’s been done well 1,000+ times before, they have 1,000+ examples to copy from

And they still get it wrong 😑

“Alright you primitive screwheads, listen up!”

“gun from fictional media isn’t like a real gun duhhh hrrrr” oh no, what ever will we do. It’s as if fiction doesn’t have to be accurate to real life

So instead of fixing the issue, they just removed the shells entirely? Classic Bethesda.

“Caseless shotgun shells” is such an unsatisfying sentence. Its like saying “Pingless Garand” or “Woodless AK47”.

the stock is as high up as the sights 💀

How does someone forget the trigger

Here at bethesda we fire none of the bullet, thats 100% less bullet per bullet

“It doesn’t have a trigger”
– Holy S… WTF!! Like what? I know it was bad, but not that bad.

ADS puts the stock right in front of the face 😅

Bethesda making shitty looking guns since forever

See, Todd Howard is such a visionary, he knew people would buy it and the modding community would add all the missing stuff and fix everything themselves.
*_It just works!_*

Bethesda should never be allowed to make guns in games ever again.

i am super not a fan of futuristic over designing in games nowadays. this was a big gripe for me in helldivers because every gun is so painfully over designed, with the obnoxiously large trigger guards, many guns being bullpup for little reason other than european design philosophy, and clunky looking bodies. hell even one of the few non-bullpup ARs, the adjudicator looks as if tesla designed an assault rifle and it’s supposed to be sold alongside the damn cybertruck. i don’t mind things looking good just to look good but damn at least have good taste

Or it has a sensor in the trigger section that detects finger movement.

This incredibly flawed game is still pretty enjoyable for what it is. I really have to immerse into a single role to for me to get something out of it.

I understand it’s the future, but damn, they’re taking way too many liberties

I think they did good with the design. It’s a space age double barrel and looks very sci fi

starfield jedi confirmed?

You had one job

Unpopular opinion: I like Bethesda’s gun design. Realism be damned, I think they look cool

Just funny 😂😂😂 just video game not real all

Nitpicking at its finest

It shoots “caseless” shells because they couldn’t be fuckes to remodel the cases to not have bullets in them

Actually the trigger is a fingerprint scanner

I understand we’re nitpicking when we point stuff out like this, but I truly feel it just shows how either lazy or overstretched bethesda’s design team is. Double barrel shotguns are just such a simple thing to get right, and they seemingly just choose not to because they got it right enough in Fallout 4.

Ok so Apeture fires all of the bullet, and Bethesda fires none of the bullet, now we need a gun that fires the cartridge and ejects the bullet.

I think Bethesda just got extremely lazy with the gun designs or the people in charge of making the guns in the game had no clue how guns work but thought …it’s space guns, we can do whatever we want ………..no, no you can’t lol

I remember getting gun one that was full auto. It fired really fast and wasted ammo, so i made it semi auto.
My character used a semi auto as fast as my real life counterpart *me* uses a pump shotgun

The game wasn’t made for guns freaks like you, i play video games and i don’t know anything about guns and i don’t care to know, if it looks cool i like it

Awww idk I see it now but I didn’t really care at the time honestly.

The guns really aren’t the problem with this game

Who plays Bethesda games in third person

“Wah wah WAHHH!!! Momma! Mommy! I need milky!!! Wahhh!!!” 😭😱💩👶

Now I just want to see what a square smoothbore would do o.O

Careful, fanboys might get offended and realize this game was actually a flop.

Honestly wtv, its the brain dead mfs at Laredo fault

Holy crap who cares none of the other game is realistic anyways

The next fallout will be so bad.

It’s all neuro-linked thats why you don’t need a trigger but the mere action of squeezing will fire it. Thats why in first person the link will actually splice out the shells in your vision as to not interupt it during a gunfight but to those not linked in i.e. outside viewera they see it. The size….pffft iuno make big boom gun big and square

Love Bethesda, long live the Enclave 🇺🇸

From a dev as big as Bethesda this kind of design and animation is unforgivable

Nah, they just installed a G-spot i to the gun.
So you have to personally know the gun to make it fire.
It can’t be used against you because the thief can’t finger fuck her into firing at you on the first try. 😜

I like it

Even fallout 4 does it better, even if it has weird animations in fallout 4

Not a SINGLE 2A guy was within 100miles of that studio 😂

So the couch shotgun is a cheap generic rip of the caravan shotgun from new Vegas, will they ever make a game that doesn’t steal ideas from it, I see the Devs still struggle with firearms perspective in that when the character ads he holds it like a pistol giving this odd pull away from the stock, if these Devs grew a brain they’d know that the players face would be resting on the stock, that’s what it’s for so you can wrap yourself close to the rifle to absorb the recoil, they couldn’t even model proper crossbows in Skyrim and the ads for it is ripped straight from fallout 3, yeah that’s right aiming system that was mocked by fan’s calling it oblivion with guns because you couldn’t ads most of the guns it kept doing this side gun zoom, it’s the same zoom for the bow in oblivion so incredibly old and basic just like Bethesda huh.

Sometimes, I feel like starfield is really just a really big apology letter to fallout fans for fucking up the guns in fallout 4.
Which I find funny. Because not only is the apology letter sublet at best, it has a lot of unnecessary garbage underneath it. Making it meaningless.

Minecraft legends looking gun

The easiest way he could prove he’s not doing anything wrong is by not doing anything wrong. People who don’t lie aren’t typically called liars by other people.

Bethesda can’t get anything righ

It uses a sensor. Anything interrupts the path. It’ll shoot. Talk about hair trigger

Square

You know their stance on guns by how they treat them in games.

I don’t get why people make such a fucking big deal over the guns.. it’s just a fallout game in fucking space bro.

XD

REMOVING the shells and just slapping “Caseless” into the description of the gun is so lazy, that’s not a fix.

These weapon designs just really shows how incompetent BGS is

It’s like the design team at Bethesda got brief descriptions of how guns operate and what they look like and then reproduced that from memory, using the first draft as their final product.

Starfield was auto generated 😂

The damn gun isn’t even that good to begin with. I mean sure it’s a nice thing to have on your fav bar to quickly switch to for a bit of burst damage or status effects but almost all of the other shotguns are just outright better no matter what! I figured “it’s a double barrel shotgun so it probably has 2 shots but they can do a lot of damage”. Nope! Not at all! Damn thing just sucks in general

It’s not ugly its cool tho.

They fixed the cases expelling by just removing the animation entirely?

Bethesda laziness as per usual

Most if not all the guns look like modern sci-fi garbage. It’s just worse that it’s supposed to be in some sort of a future 💀

Bethesda is a one trick pony who’s kicking a dead horse

How do you not model A FUCKING TRIGGER on a gun?!

Would caseless shotgun shells even work?

If you normally cant see the trigger why have one? That a standard thing when developing games that if you normally cant see it, why animate it or make it.

Obviously the tigger is a laser like the garage safety. Break the line its an input.

Dude its a futuristic sci-fi gun. Get tf over your hirt feelings. You gave nothing but a stawman argument.

“Here at Bethesda, we shoot 33% less bullet per bullet.”

People don’t play Bethesda games for the amazing graphics, gameplay, or story, they play to see what Bethesda lied on. 😂

I love how their fix only fixed it in 3rd person
Jesus christ they really do fuck up everything they touch

Who fucking cares lmao

What a shitshow of a game

It’s literally a game

Laser tripwire trigger, it fires using.

Why does Bethesda have such a hard on for oversized guns? The 10mm in FO4, the Assault Rifle in FO4, I could go on. I just don’t get it I’m beginning to feel it’s intentional to make the ugliest, most unnecessary, most oversized hunks of wood and metal as possible. You can’t convince me someone with any knowledge of weapon ergonomics and/or someone who’s ever even seen a gun was ok with the FO4 Assault Rifle.

I mean I think it looks cool

Do Bethesda guns look cool? Fuck yeah

Do Bethesda guns make sense? Fuck no

Maybe it has a touch sensor for a trigger?

I love Bethesda games.
It’s the only way to mindlessly game.
Only thing I think about are all the wtf bugs I come across. 😂😅

why didn’t they just slap some RGB lighting onto the double barrel from fallout 76?

yes this is a real rhetorical question everybody know the Bethesda bug boys just love to reuse everything

Bestha goofy ah

I swear the lead design for making this guns is a orks in disguished as a human

Don’t forget the pump action that pumps backwards, and that this is the same company that didn’t include a rounds-counted reload system when adding the lever-action rifle to Fallout 4, despite the feature being present in Fallout: New Vegas, 5 years prior.

There are break barrel rifles but not square wtf

I never notice there no trigger nooo it’s gonna bother mee!!

How is Starfield so scuffed? 😭
Seriously, they need to be investigated for money laundering

Does anyone else remember the 343 developer who tweeted about being uncomfortable and struggling with working on games that glorified modern tactical weapons? That’s one DEI Bingo Card hire we know of, is it really a stretch to imagine people at Bethesda have the exact same thought process, but the wisdom to keep quiet about it?

Man the double barrel shotgun is going to follow us into space, isn’t it? Such a simple and cheap design..

Double rifles were very common, but not like this 😂

Make it single barrel and a carbine and you actually have a sweet looking gun!

Honestly at this point I think they should just put normal weapons in their games instead of creating cursed guns in the attempt to be futuristic or away from reality. Because at this stage it just looks insulting to actual firearms designers. If they want futuristic weapons they should just make some futuristic weapons; but if they’re going to make a double barrel they should leave it alone as not to insult people.

It’s a magical space game set hundreds of years in the future, who the fuck cares

The real question is WHY even make a double barrel shotgun in this distant far of world future?
If was a classical one would make more sense than this atrocity.

The game just sucks dude it’s not worth anyone’s time

You are mistaken about the trigger, as it doesnt need one. You see, the gun is operated by hitting the grip so hard it shakes the gun fast enough to detonate the cartridge in the chamber.

i like it

As a dev who knows how to edit stuff you’d know that this is discussting because all the did was set to non ejection in the creation kit

I feel like the DB’s in Bethesda not having a trigger must be some sick company joke

“Caseless shotguns shells” aka we can’t be fucked to fix the animation

I feel bad for the game devs reading all these autistic people’s angry emails.

For Normal Devs it is probably the easiest way to do, is just remove something for it to be invisible as the error will essentially be removed that way, but only Bethesda, will find a way to just fix half of their mistakes. They could come up with some magical thing that reads your fingerprint for every shot fired but no they are incapable of just coming up with an explanation regardless…

Bethesda needs to hire a firearms expert to help with all their gun designs

Wait. A gun ejecting caseless ammunition?

The amount of fuckups they did in this gun alone should bring the rating to 18+

stop buying their game. Thats the only way they will learn.

The trigger is a finger sensor lol

I will never be able to get over the square bullets. Bethesda can’t seem to understand the meaning of “caseless”. These idiots probably think the case is a part of the bullet and travels out the barrel, If they don’t why make the entire length of the barrel a goddamn square?

Genuinely, how do you forget the fucking trigger

Lol, the double barrel in Fallout 4 is probably the only gun they got right, and they even managed to fuck that up now😂

Gun so bad even Doomguy would ignore it.

I’d mean to be fair you basically do become a Jedi in the game lolol minus the.. laser swords….😅

I love shotguns, just not Bethesda shotguns.

It’s ugly as fuck but a really good starter weapon for the first few missions

“Usually it’s pretty hard to screw up a double barreled shotgun.”

Bethesda: Hold my beer. 🤪

fix the case❌
just remove it✅

Why is everything a fucking square in this game

Bethesda with guns is like reddit mods with vaginas. They heard and ever read about them, but they dislike them and never actually seen one in person.

It’s not that serious

Not a force users weapon of choice really i feel like compared to elder scrolls and fallout star field ill be short lived

Square rifle shotgun

For an American company they really lack gun culture

Hilarious that instead of just changing the cartridge model to remove the bullet, they made it caseless, made it still eject the round, but just made it invisible in first person

Bethesda is just that kid who ate sand at recess

How on earth do you forget to give a gun a trigger? I cannot fathom how these gun designs could possibly be this bad.

I can see the doom reference in this one lol

Its a sci-fi game why tf y’all being so damn critical about weapons design?