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Starfield is a 2023 action role-playing game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. In the game, the player character joins a group of space explorers who must venture to various corners of the galaxy to acquire mysterious artifacts. The game features an open world in the form of an area within the Milky Way galaxy, containing both fictional and non-fictional planetary systems.
Starfield takes place in a space-themed setting, and is the first new intellectual property developed by Bethesda in 25 years. It was described by director Todd Howard as “Skyrim in space”. Like Bethesda’s previous games, it was powered by the Creation Engine, though it was heavily modified to accommodate the game’s procedural generation system. Active development of the game started following the release of Fallout 4 in 2015. Announced in 2018, Starfield was delayed several times. The game was released for Windows and Xbox Series X/S on September 6, 2023. It received generally positive reviews from critics, with particular praise for its open world, setting, and soundtrack, though its story and exploration were divisive. The title’s first DLC, Shattered Space released on September 30, 2024.
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The fact there’s people that will still defend Bethesda, even now, after EVERYTHING, is just sad. Buffoonery, the likes of which we’ve never seen
I enjoy playing starfield but the gameplay does get a bit stale. When I thought of space games with factions I was thinking big fleet battles and more spy’s or something like that other then the uc vanguard missions and pirate spy missions I was disappointed on that point, I also think that some of the dlcs from fallout have more story and better gameplay then the entire main story of starfield
“Microsoft will make Bethesda better!” Whats happening with Mechwarrior and Halo again?🤣
Starfield is a failure not because of procedural generation, but because bethesda failed to use this technology correctly. Hand crafted games (worlds, linear stories, etc.) should inevitably become a thing of the past.
Example of this in case of starfield is that they proceduraly generate environments (and poorly so), but fail to include procedural generation of points of interest. POIs just turned out to be a small set of identical buildings with very little variation.
My point is, game developers shoul utilise more procedural generation, but they need to apply all modern advances in machine learning and AI, as well as reasonable algorythms, to make worlds and stories look and feel dynamic and believavle.
Its a shame because i think the Fallout tv series was really good and it was insane they only had the flop that is fallout 76 on offer for any new fans that show brought in (in terms of new content) the tv series is like the best thing bethesda has done in 10 years and thats just sad because they probably didnt have as much input as they do with the games. Maybe they need to just let someone else handle their ip’s for a while 😂
I’ve seen what modders can do with skyrim. They don’t need a new game engine, they need to realize that their writting and work with starfield is shitty.
50 planets would’ve been more then enough 🙄 the game is to hard for something so simple. None of the venders can buy my stuff for what it’s worth, I can’t go to the planet next door cause I have to traverse the whole freaking galaxy first… can’t do that cause I don’t have the right hyperdrive. Can’t equip the hyperdrive cause my ship can’t handle it despite it being able to fit… can’t get the right ship cause my trait for piloting that ship hasn’t upgraded… can’t upgrade cause the activity needed to upgrade refuses to generate in the game…………. 🗿🗿🗿
I’m getting sick of all the hate this game receives, I love playing starfield, it’s even better now that we have mod support
The only good bethesda game was new vegas and it wasnt made by them
I can see where you’re coming from.
Okay. The DLC is like $30. And the length of it being like 4 hrs isnt that bad considering the length of Call of Duty campaigns. And their games are still full price, years later. So I dont think this is an entirely valid criticism.
Bethesda should fire Todd Howard. Literally the modders are carrying bethesda because their game are garbage out of the box.
Bethesda hit one “Bullseye” by accident and it held the company afloat for a while, until now. You can’t hide incompetence behind the luck forever.
“Not everyone’s cup of tea”
A space RPG is deadass my dream game. I love star citizen, not because of anything in particular except its just being in space and I love that (a whole other topic I could get into). When I saw starfield announced I was losing my mind thinking this would be the only game I would ever play from that point on. I ALMOST pre-purchased it, but waited because of my friends’ advice and when it came out, I watched countless videos on it and now I am SO glad I didn’t buy it at all.
So calling this not everyones cup of tea is nuts, because this is actually my DREAM cup of tea and you’ve just gone and spilt it all over the floor and broken the mug infront of me.
KCD2 !!!
What music was used at the beginning? That’s such a vibe holy
Starfield takes place in the least interesting time in the universe’s timeline, and took all the mechanics they put into F04 and made them worse. Boring setting, poorly written story, and frustrating mechanics. And they wonder why nobody likes it.
Their hubris will be their downfall
Emil Pagliarilo has decades of history showing his utter incompetence in everything. He is the bane of the Bethesda fanbase.
Auto generated quest ehh, I hated the minute men and dark brotherhood unending quests they became very bland.
I love Starfield. I have 355 hours in it and plan to put a lot more in BUT me loving it doesn’t mean it’s an objectively good game. There is so much room for improvement. So many flaws. Which really makes it suck that Bethesda doesn’t seem to be listening to their players and fans.
No man sky. Cyberpunk. Starfield.
It has now crashed on me 😢black screen with constant loading circle bottom right …
“The biggest, richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine” Bethesda didn’t make no man’s sky though…..
8:40 fans didnt like it because it made ZERO sense if you had a mutant companion
I have 1000 hours on fallout games and on ESO games. Not for a SECOND have I played starfield
Can we get a game devs version of kitchen nightmares? I’m so sick of hearing “plenty of people love it”
Yeah? Then why is your studio hemorrhaging money? Why is nobody excited for your next project?
The two rats that will gleefully scarf down any slop or scrap you give them isn’t going to keep your company running.
The creativity and work modders put into this game is the only reason I’m still playing
I worry about your community. Not sure I wanna be subbed.
Seems like there is a lot of covered up bigotry. Ppl trying to edge you in their direction. To have a similar bigoted opinion.
I would hang with this community if that wasn’t so common… 🙁
I can’t stand them they just want money like when they said fallout is getting pvp I was like wtf that’s not fallout 😡🤦🏾 they should make fallout 4 co op and tweak a few things smh they don’t care they just want money we need to stop buying their games so they can change their ways 😑🗑
I didn’t even know the DLC released until this video showed up in my recommended. And here I am reacting to someone reacting to Bethesda reacting to the players reaction. I never saw any advertisements or gameplay before this lol
Still can’t access the DLC. I’ve completed the first story mission, reached level 35, and jumped to probably a dozen different uninhabited orbits and still no space station has popped up. I’ve officially lost all interest in the game and probably won’t ever play it again. Hopefully Elder Scrolls 6 isn’t such a heaping pile of garbage when it finally releases in 2035
Starfield makes me genuinely sad because the good parts are, in my opinion, at least, absolutely great. But the good isn’t nearly enough to justify the pile of garbage that the rest of it is
Loading screens that are literally 1 second unless you’re on some ancient drives..
It’s not that big of a deal.
And this SF is NOT Fallout Or TES. Why do people compare the two so much? This is why every one thinks its just awful.
It is also NOT NMS.
It’s space.. what did you think you’d get? Wild NMS aliens living in cities on every planet? Action packed mama murphy armies on all the planets? Guards yelling “STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!”
The game is fine as it is.
I actually really like starfield and hope they don’t let this one poorly received dlc stop them from expanding on the game further
That mods aren’t already doing for Starfield what they did by this time with FO4, much less Skyrim LE, is the most telling indicator for me of this game’s possiblilty of ever puting out this dumpster fire.
As an Ancient Greybeard I just want to the record to show we hated the orginal ending of Fallout 3 because nothing you did mattered. Have a Super Mutant bestie? Die, potato! Have enough rad away and rad X to buff an army? Die, potato! Have power armour with massive rad resistance? Die, potato. We hated it because there was no choice, you had to die. It felt like nothing mattered after 80 hours playing, no choice you made mattered, you were destined to die and that sucked. I will die salty about this, it was the day BGS died and this zombie started walking around wearing BGS’s flesh.
I wish they could fork UE5. They clearly have talented devs who work on Creation Engine, they just dont have enough resources to compete with Unreal. But if they forked Unreal and modified it to make it their own, it could be a HUGE step on the right direction.
18:50 real casual passing comment about your Todd Howard cutout living in your bedroom
So… I used to be an avid bethesda fan. I used to buy their games on release day no questions asked, I mean, I remember Bloodmoon and Tribunal, these were expansions in the truest sense, and The Shivering Iles was, IMO the best expansion bethesda ever created. I am saddened to see what was once released with pride and care has been rebranded to take more and more of the consumers’ money
the long butterfly effect of horse armor…
just wanna say, 59% is a passing grade in a lot of places outside the US. Canada, and many countries in the EU
The reason they won’t be able to meet fans expectations is because they’re not listening to the feedback. If what you say is true, they’re more passionate about money than making great games for fans, and by fans, I mean the general fanbase, not the 20% who thought Starfield was good. They should listen more to the 80% who think it was mediocre or bad and improve on their systems and world design based on that feedback.
If Starfield were the best game Bethesda ever made, Bethesda wouldn’t even be a blip on the map.
idk why…
but i thought this was a video on NoMansSky;
prob just cuz theyre both space games and NMS had a bumpy start, so i thought they had a really bad patch XD
Naw, just bethesda do its regular corpo shit.
I played this game for 5 minutes and immediately got a refund, diabolical.
Bethesda saying Starfield is a technological achievement and the best and biggest space RPG ever made makes me feel like they ever never played any other space games before lol. No Man’s Sky, Elite Dangerous, Outer Worlds, are all much better with more fun gameplay, better story and far less loading times. Hell Mass Effect is 100 times better and still had less loading screens.
Bethesda really is cooked. Sad to see. I recently went back to play Morrowind and wow is that game amazing. It truly is incredible that they can deviate so far from quality art in a few decades
Please don’t forget, STARFIELD is the first bethesda no first game ever (that I know of) to make you pay for mods MADE BY THE COMMUNITY, I’m not talking creation club. They locked just normal mods made by there community behind paywalls
Many still love this game. If you don’t like chill space exploration it wasn’t made for you…
I feel the same way Bethesda one of my favorite developers tbh I beat starfield and went to ng plus 10 for the powers and I’ve played shattered space but man I gotta tell you the game doesn’t hold a candle to the older games which is kinda crazy when you think Skyrim is over 10 years old for the first time ever I found myself playing starfield just to finish it so I wouldn’t have to play it anymore and when that realization hit me oh man Bethesda has fallen far
I don’t know how but somehow spent 200 hours on starfield 😭
It was 2012 I was mindless staring at skibidi tolier in genders ethinomics class. And over heard some hipstirs talk about Skyrim.
I got this erie feeling in my gut. Is this the same game as oblivion? Will I have hours of book reading like morrowind? More importantly is this going to make bethesda into q mainstream game?
This guy feels like a ludwig clone.
Someone tell Emil to take a week of PTO and play morrowind.
90% of the people talking shit on Emil are literally just regurgitating bullshit they heard other people say, and 90% of that is fake, exaggerated or misquoted. Bethesda definitely has problems and Starfield is by far their worst game but very little if any of it is Emils fault. This thread is absolute proof that nobody has an original opinion and spend most of their time jumping on bandwagons because someone came along and spoon fed them an easy talking point to validate their disappointment in the game. I bet most of you can’t back any of your Emil hatred with any substantial or verifiable proof that he actually did anything you claim he did. And for those of you talking about him not being able to take criticism, not replying to hate comments is not hiding from criticism it’s him not playing into toxic social media culture.
If you’re trying to convince people how awesome your developers are and how hard they work, then you’re not focused on the fan OR the product. Great craftsmanship speaks for itself.
And it’s great that workers at BGS are focused and hardworking. But working hard on a creative project like a video game doesn’t guarantee a great product. Making a great product requires great direction and leadership. So, to me, this tells me that there was a massive lack of leadership (him and maybe todd) or they made a game THEY liked and did not make it for the fan.
Finally, Id just like to say that Ive met many people in leadership roles who think the workers support the leadership. Uh-uh. They may answer to leadership but leadership’s job is to support the workers; help them hone their skills, grow in their profession and, ultimately, teach THEM how to be a good leader one day. Based on that devs quotes, he sounds like a terrible leader who is egotistical and dismissive. The only thing “leaders” like that are good at is keeping people working. Ill bet you anything the devs worked their asses off just to get away from that guy. Ive seen it all before and its sad.
So I’m a teacher and I wonder if this is similar to some of the bs we deal with. Like, I’d love to grade a bunch of tests but my boss said I have to “proctor a testing session” (aka sit there and waste my time). Maybe Bethesda’s corporate overlords have expectations for them but BSG is trying to CYA by spinning what they’ve been told
Honestly, Fallout 1 and 2 are better than 3 and 4. New Vegas was awesome too. Pretty much the Fallout games that Bethesda DIDN’T do are the best.
To think we’ve been imagining how cool TES6 will be. Thinking about the graphics, the gameplay, the adventure and immersion for years. Its like the magic of christmas slowly fading year by year as you get older.
Wow. 4-5 hours huh. I’ve got 400 hours out of my last three skyrim playthroughs. Of the same game.
No Man’s Sky exists. Elite Dangerous exists. Star Citizen exists. EVE Online exists. In what way is Starfield the richest, biggest space simulator RPG ever?
8:20 if they’re correlating shattered space and far Harbor in being the same maybe it’s in the size of the play area I’m not sure I haven’t tried shattered space in Starfield. Being a huge Bethesda fan in the past I bought Starfield with the shattered space DLC back when you could pre-order it I haven’t touched the game basically since😂 after like 5 to 6 hours of playing I was like no I don’t like how this game feels it didn’t even feel like a Bethesda game honestly I couldn’t tell you what the small details are though.
A 4-5 hour “expansion” should only come out at $9.99. The present cost is too much for the lack of content.
Even as someone who was really disappointed with Starfield, I find it strange that people are confused at the quote saying that “in some ways, this is the best game we’ve ever made”.
It’s true. They’re not saying it’s the best game they’ve ever made. They’re saying that some aspects of it are better than in their other games. The lighting, textures, even animations. They’re all the best compared to all their other games. They chose their words carefully there.
I played the game for 200 hours. I really loved and enjoyed. I felt like Skyrim – if you rush the storyline, youll finish it in some hours, but if you explore… Of course, maybe generated is not what people like. Ill give a try in that expansion, I feel if I listened all that hate, people entering in a game for find cons, I never would have the amazing experience I had, just being honest here.
I would like to say im a bethesda fan but the last game i enjoyed was skyrim, outside that new vegas was not made by them but i think its the best fallout and fallout 3 was only alright.
Crazy you can pick apart starfield but be bought for dragon age.
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I fell out of love with ANYTHING that Bethesda might put it’s gross hands on almost a decade ago.
Im not buying es6 ive lost all faith in Bethesda as a game studio
i am not the kind of person to watch videos like this, but clicked because i wanted to know what beth was saying. i have been a fan of bethseda since morrowind. i was looking forward to starfield, and i do actually like it. thats why the issues with it hurts so badly. i want to “live” in it like other beth games. but it’s so incredibly shallow that it makes it hard to do so. i want it to have a glow up because i love the aesthetic, lore and gameplay but this feels like something that came out way, way too early.
Starlink for switch has a better space exploration format than this game, you can go from dogfights in space an fly straight into any planet on any side. Fly yourself through the atmosphere to the ground and start playing on that planet without a single load screen. Then leave that planet by flying straight up into space an can fly to another planet and enter that planet still without any loading screens… on a Nintendo switch years ago… it may not be graphicaly as beautiful but thats how starfield should have been with how long they took an the budget they had…
the modern world sees: honesty=hate :/
I love Starfield. I’ve spent about 200 hours in it and I’m still hooked.
80%-90% of the people who say negative things about Starfield and Shattered Space cant name a reason why. At least this guy gives some plausible, if minimaly important, actual reasons. Not enough content doesnt make it suck, it makes it too short. Lackluster writing and the rest of his reasons though are all highly subjective. Including new game mechanics in a DLC is 100% not universally the way it’s done. Reasons like this guy’s are very debatable, and are totally not a reason to hate a game with the fire of a thousand suns.
Funny enough that “their” best fallout game wasn’t even made by them.
I still think Oblivion is their best ES game.
I think Starfield is a perfect example of what Bethesda actually is when they’re not being held up by the world’s created by the titans before them. Remember that the staff that runs it now did not create Elder Scrolls or Fallout, they’ve just been riding the nostalgic coattails.
It’s heartbreaking that we’ll probably never see a Bethesda published title with even half the quality of New Vegas ever again. I know Obsidian made it, but it was in the world that Bethesda unfortunately owns, and unless they sell the rights to ES or Fallout, we’re never seeing that quality in these games ever again.
“[…] they want to live in the worlds we create. That means their experiences never end, and the content […] works together as seamlessly as we can make it.”
And yet they decided to have players have to go through 5 loading screens if they want to travel from one planet to another:
– Board ship.
– Fly into space.
– Warp to the desired system.
– Land ship on said planet.
– Leave the ship.
Talk about being tone deaf 🤣
“We spent a lot of effort on this game” and “This is the best game we’ve ever made (technically)” is not the same as “We made a good game”. Emil seems to ignore that. To use a sportsball metaphor, if your local sportsball team is terrible, the reason may not be that the players are not trying hard or doing their best.
People still play this?
I honestly think starfield has the potential to be a great modding platform, but it isn’t a good game on its own. They should have waited another year or two before release and focused on improving the title.
Starfield sucks I got to level 75 game braking bug glitch a mission had to start all over. Charging for missions is absolute craziness when the game is so broken.
For me, the fact that Bethesda employees are talking so hightly about Starfield is quite alarming.
What i think of Starfield is Hoeward´s experiment: “How little work can we put into product for it to still sell.” From entire mechanics directly copypasted from older titles and slapped together so roughly that you can easily tell from which game which mechanic came from to random seed maps with so little unique assets youll find the same three bandit ouptosts on every planet every 10 square miles, not to mention all the missing features, it just feels like the game took 8 months to make at best.
And now that they consider it such a success im concerned what Elder Scrolls 6 will come to.
“Best” is completely subjective when presented out-of-context. It’s personal opinion. Maybe it’s the best optimized. Maybe it’s best looking. Maybe it’s the best team experience because it stretched the boundaries of what they thought was possible. Maybe it’s best use of modern technology. Maybe all the factors attributing the developers and designers to think of it as the “best” aren’t outward facing or tied directly to consumer sentiment. Factually, it was the “best” launch in Bethesda history. We still have 10+ years of data to collect to determine if it’ll be the best selling game.
People are just spoiled glorified haters anyway so no new games have a chance because they are stuck in the past
After watching Goblin slayer anime being treated childishly by games and shows hit much harder
17:41 HAHAHAHA GET a gun and it doesnt even reload! Are You kidding me Luke? 🙂
“Maybe it’s time to look elsewhere”, exactly.
I moved on from Bethesda, and have no expectations whatsoever, they’re lost.
bethesda fans are absolutely regarded and there is no way around it, and all ppl should thank them for giving bethesda money for their shitty broken games, congrats, what did you expect, it will only get worse, because of you.
The only thing Bethesda ever really “made” is the elder scrolls series and that took 5 tries to make it finally popular, just to make it into a meh MMO. Doubt elder scrolls 6 will be a banger.
Fallout isn’t their original IP, and they arguably changed a lot of what made the original 2 really great. The best of the 3d fallouts isn’t even made by Bethesda.
Now they made starfield, and it suffers from the same issues all their games suffered for decades.
Maybe Bethesda never was that great?
Change is also good. And being negative towards that is poor sportsmanship.
It’s a great game. And has a great foundation/idea. But it does fall short, although it has insane opportunity and is heading in the right direction. They needed more time and better management. But obviously their other games are better. Though their games are only getting worse.
Do better, Bethesda
Bethesda is only known for making shit games that is saved by the strong and dedicated modding community.
I honestly like Starfield’s setting, but yeah, calling the game one of the best is just outright delusional. The game is decent with a couple high points and a whole lot of lows. It’s in the same ballpark as Fallout 4 I’d say, but even then the main story is just *bad.*
The sudden realization that “the devs can’t be THAT stupid” is in fact, quite true.
I really need to go back and replay far harbor because my memory of far harbor is that it was mid. Also my FO4 save works just fine post next Gen update and ive got like 100 mods. So idk what you mean saying its just flat out broken.
Any decision made, judged. Do a quest a certain way, judged. Character development, nonexistent. World design, bland.
I get it…space is relatively dead…but even fallout takes place on a “dead earth”. But starfield, go to earth, there’s nothing. Literally nothing. No remnants of cities, no interesting locations…just landmarks you can find by picking up some item prior.
For an rpg to be succesful, choices need to matter. To have a decent “companion” in game they need to feel worthwhile, not condescending. They made an “RPG” without the RP, plain and simple. Eveytging about the game is just a messed up vision they had that failed to deliver.
And yeah, i bought the premium upgrade…to find that every weapon has skin options, but no skins to unlock/apply. It’s a single-player game…and the only skins you got were for a “specific” weapon variant.
Meanwhile, I’ve played Skyrim multiple times, Fallout games even more (except 4…that’s hard to stay in after a while). Those worlds feel alive, with companions you actually like having around. Cool places to explore, new things to find.
If they had taken that, applied it to a game in space, i wouldve loved it.
The “people wanted ES6 and got something else” comment really irks me because it’s so dismissive of people that wanted a Bethesda game in space and got a boring loading screen simulator instead. The game is worse than everything that came before it in every category except the guns that feel on par with fallout 4. He keeps trying to sell it as this technical marvel and it’s not. Maybe it is considering the engine they’re working with.
The solution to the vast majority of these recent issues across the industry is to force the developers to play their own game. Not “when you feel like” for “however long you feel like it.” No. Make them sit down and play it for an eight-hour stretch every day for a month straight. They’d finally get it.
“It’s because I’m a fan dumbass” 💀
The ONLY thing I found worth anything with this expansion was some of the newly introduced weapons and armor. The weapons are some of the most powerful in the game that I have found and the armor sets look great. Not much different in stats to the US Security armor which I wear most of the time but look way cooler in my opinion. But the weapons hands down are some of the deadliest ones to be found so far. They made quick work of the Starborn at the buried temple, to include the Hunter.
Pagliarilo is just coping. They have the stats, they see the numbers. They know that Starfield has a small fraction of the fan base and enthusiasm of TES and Fallout. Their 8 years and 200? 300? 400 million was poorly invested and I think BGS is just dead at this point.
Man as soon as he said the quote “its the best game we ever made i got an ad that said “what are you doing. We all know that stupid game isnt real”
I played BGS games until Fallout 76, which showed me the direction of BGS’s future. I would like to point out one thing new days: What Is that a good game? If a player thinks that Starfield is enjoyable, this is because they don’t have expectations from developers, and they will enjoy anything they realise, no matter how bad the game can be. I have played games for 30 years, and I can see if the game is innovative. Best game of RPG is BG3 and my is favourite of all time for now. I don’t think Elder Scroll 6 is going what it blows us, because I DIDN’T SEE in Fallout 76 and Starfied.
I will never understand these gaming companies that attempt to make their own engines while also trying to create major gaming titles. Every company that does this fails. Surprisingly 343 dropped their ego and gave up on their engine and are just gonna focus on designing games now (halo). Bethesda needs to do the same, they’ve been a failing company for so many years now they need to make a change. Unreal engine is the best of the best. Imagine the possibilities with the next elder scrolls game being on unreal engine 5… or at this rate it won’t be released for another 5 years so unreal engine 6! Haha
I hate the word “objectively”. There is no such thing as objectivity, only subjectivity with an unhealthy dose of arrogance and bias. That being said, Shattered Space is pretty bad, IMO. TES VI is doomed.
At one point when do you check out a d just move on with your life cause at some point you just become the problem
There is nothing wrong with being optimistic yall are iust overly negative
Being overly positive is bad tho
cringe
9:40 i disagree, Ili like thr continium factor
You will have your fallout and elder scrolls slop in the mc Donald’s bag soon
“in alot of ways”
Ppl just forgetting he said this part he didn’t say it’s overall the best game but in many ways
Anyway this is why devs don’t make new ips for y’all ungrateful gamers and why you don’t deserve them
Great video man! Really sucks watching your favorite studio just be consumed by the Soulless AAA game corp. I hope Bethesda rights the ship, but I don’t think its going to happen.
Sad, just sad. I remember games where i had literal tears in my eyes when brother Martin sacrificed himself… I was genuinely shocked. To whats left of Bethcrasda today. A money hungry criminal origination, thats out to scam people out of their money with plain lies and untruths. They swindled the same people that paid for their fancy houses, their big fat cars, and all the appreciation they could want.. and they turned around and plain scammed them. Misusing people who trust you in the way that they did, is utterly unacceptable, it’s plain criminal. They should do jail time for that. The people at Bethcrasda should be ashamed, deeply ashamed… and the fact that they are not, makes it all the worse. Face it guys, the Bethcrasda we all loved is dead..And we should never buy into their lying scams ever again. And hit them where it hurts… like they did with us.. in their wallets.
I didn’t even beat the base game, was to boring
They already lied with Skyrim back then and the game was good only because of modders and for being an open world.
Most overrated studio in the gaming history.
All of triple-A gaming companies are (just like Hollywoke) in the poop can. I for one don’t much care, as I’ve been collecting physical media for 25+ years. Besides, IF I purchase a game through digital, I’ll only by when games cost less than $20. Oh, and that dev must’ve never played either ES5 or No Man’s Sky…
lets make brian mitsoda the main writer for the next tes
It’s not even bad lol
Starfield falls short. It is a really cool concept game for sure. It’s like the story lines were written by experts but those experts were let go before they could refine and flesh out the details. While there were some cool things in the game, the stories are bland. It does not feel like a complete Bethesda game. It feels like the writers either got lazy, were rushed, or I don’t know what- didn’t complete satisfaction?
Just like the main game of starfield, wide as an ocean deep as a puddle, you’re given the illusion of freedom but you’re merely a puppet in their stale world. Unless you’re a exno, pirate or standard bounty hunter that’s the only way you’ll enjoy the game, anything else you’re just wasting your time.
I played Starfield for like 20mins. I could tell this was an entire nothing game. Just empty and boring
The problem with Starfield is it kinda bland when you start digging deeper into it! Characters outside of main ones are just too bland.
Oh, and, yeah, Emil’s position of prominence needs breaking. He seems capable of good ideas. Dragon Shout? Brilliant. But the broader stories seem to be way too much for him. And if the choice is a mechanic like Dragon Shouts but also a Fallout 4 quality main quest, or a better story without that kind of a USP mechanic? Bye, bye, Dragon Shouts, I guess.
In the case of Broken Steel, players wanted to be able to take their characters through all the DLC – that fans wanted to experience all the content – because there was a lot.
If you look at Skyrim, you can complete *both* main storylines and then play the DLC. It’s about not starting from the very beginning to play the additional content as it releases, and with having to retcon the character story they already played.
There is a reason the new-game-plus of Starfield didn’t work, because it still nukes the character to pretty close to zero.
Keep in mind that Emil was the lead writer of Fallout 3, so he 100% was in charge of an ending that STILL BERATED US FOR MAKING A LOGICAL DECISION. It wouldn’t be a problem if they had Ron Perlman record just one or two more lines to fit Broken Steel, but no, you continue the game at the cost of basically being told you should’ve died.
Might be good if we have to wait 20 years for Starfield 2.
I love Bethesda games and I genuinely enjoyed starfield. Got maybe 200 hours in my first playthrough. I have no desire to play the DLC and its far from the best they’ve made.
Big is NOT better, quality immersion is .!
Starfield has planet to atmosphere to space gameplay , just loading screens and a woke agenda driven by constellation.
I have no doubt the Dark Brotherhood questline in ES6 will be saturated down to an soft argument with a fairy god mother .
Fallout 6 will be be about a UN mandated french crossdresser tip toeing through the rainbow tulips .
Let the player friggen decide what is their moral obligations are and play how THEY want to play, instead of being railroaded by the useless woke nutjobs you’ve hired.
“Keep your hits in mind” the fact he can say this with a straight face whilst talking about the only bethesda story he didnt write (and the only one people have actually liked in the past decade+) geniunely boggles my mind. Ignorance is this man’s superpower fr
nice giant space marine, also is that the castle from castlevania in the background?
I love the candle on your right.
My guess, 30-50% of BSGs problem is their game engine. It’s DOG-SHYTE. If they’d spend the money on a new engine they’d be way more competitive. But they won’t and ES VI is gonna be even worse than SF mark my words.
Jesus Christ the complain Olympics continues. Maybe its time to sing a new tune yeah?
Possibly an unpopular opinion. I liked Starfield. Do I think it’s the best game of the year? Absolutely not. I think it was decent, and I enjoyed playing it. Now the Shattered Space DLC..was kinda disappointed. Like…sure it was “OK”, but at $30? It was more like $10 worth of content.
For me, Skyrim was when they started rocking the boat. When I bought Fallout 4 and got Skyrim 2.0 I was upset. I waited since 2013 for more TES but they made TWO Fallouts, then they said they wanted to create a cool new IP before making another TES because they don’t want to be “the studio that only pumps out Elder Scrolls”, and this new IP was just Fallout 4 in space, I checked out completely.
I’m no longer a Bethesda fan. I’m still a fan of Elder Scrolls and Fallout. But I want these IPs taken off Bethesdas hands and given to a different studio. Obsidian Entertainment, perhaps? They made Fallout New Vegas, the best Bethesda-era Fallout, that’s a good merit. They share parent company now, right? Take Elder Scrolls and Fallout off of Bethesdas hands, leave them with Starfield since they love it so much, and let us just get back to getting good installments of TES and Fallout again.
Emil and really Bethesda as a whole has a habit of talking out of their ass and it comes across as so tone deaf. Look I was a Bethy fanboy, but Starfield really has soured my opinion on them.
When the astronauts went to the Moon, they bought the DLC and weren’t bored.
No he’s not wrong that was one of the things I did not like about fallout 3 and I’m not the only one. I hear you say a lot of things that the quiet players would disagree with. Yeah starfeld needs a lot a of work but it’s not that bad. The dlc was fun I agree to short but the story was there
Bethesda is still doing better than hubrisoft or slactivision.
The best game Bethesda ever made is Morrowind, bar none. Everything after was rolling down a downhill slope, with that one single cliff you could stop at and enjoy the view (Skyrim), before plunging further down, into the valley full of thorny bushes and rattlesnakes at the bottom.
Other than that, i agree completely with statements and opinions in this video. Yep, the Bethesda management and even creative directors are delusional.
20:44 that pandering JuiceHead comment on the bottom kissing their ass lol
I gave starfield a serious go. I put almost 100 hours into it, NG+ etc. Did all the side content, hunted all the legendary ships. Everything i could.
It just wasnt that great. It was mid. Bethesda took a risk but it was a swing and a miss. I sincerely hope it doesnt get a sequel. If it does i hope its a complete rework from the ground up. The world is intriguing enough but its so shallow and empty.
Procedural generation in a bethesda game was the biggest mistake imaginable. It absolutely doesnt mesh with their usual design philosophy.
Heres hoping its a learning experience for them and not the nail in the coffin. So much more is now riding on ES6. If its not a banger then bethesda will fade into irrelevence.
Starfield is the richest space simulation.
100 solar systems of accurate moving planets.
It’s not the richest space flight simulation, world simulation, NPC simulation, companion simulation, or anything else the player would care about…. simulation.
0:01 That candle smells like skooma, tears and disappointment
Corporate greed is ruining everything in the world. It’s affecting every single aspect of our society at this point. Games are just one industry that is being hurt. We have a much bigger problem in this current system.
Agreed Luke, The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference.
When you declared, “you know what you did, you know what you did!” that was great.
Emil is the exact definition of TOXIC POSITIVITY. Not one fucking person wants to “live” in their worlds. They want to play in them. They want to experience them in different ways more than once. Unless you’re talking about 76 or Starfield.
Yeah, replayability is why I played Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 4 so much, not to “live in their world”.
Notice player counts of Fallout 76, a “lived in” world experience, and
Starfield, a single player never ending game…
Emil is protected by Todd. Todd is protected by what he did with Skyrim. Thus the cycle will continue until Todd is gone.
Skyrim is what destroyed Bethesda, because they can never live up to those expectations again.
Bethesda has been a disaster since Oblivion when they retconned the entire game world because Todd saw Lord of the Rings. People have just accepted it thoughtlessly for over a decade because no one makes games like that, or they don’t realize that happened because they only started playing with Oblivion and never played the original Fallout games. I don’t know why they’ve suddenly becomes more critical, but I’m glad it’s finally happened.
I have 205 hours in Starfield, but I only played it on Game Pass cause I didn’t trust it to be worth full price.
If they would stop trying to make their IPs be like GTA we all would benefit greatly. Elder scrolls Tamriel , fallout 76. If those games weren’t made, we would have gotten Fallout 5 already, and a game that competes with Skyrim. They would probably be mostly done working on the next games. But they want these big MMOs that suck the resources of their studio dry and the player bases wallets.
Give me a fallout 4/skyrim singleplayer experience that i can play with 1 other person online or local co-op.
More studios need to enable co-op in some form or fashion. Not MMO.
I quite like ‘crunchy’ games, such as Fallout, so Starfield is my jam. It’s got a lot of repetitive mediocrity in it though. Too much for such a large design studio.
In some ways, it’s a bit like Destiny. It has some great bits, but they are surrounded by mundane filler.
Why did all the random locations have to be identical? Once you’ve discovered the same mine for the tenth time, it gets hard to love this game. Surely some sort of randomised location builder could have been used. 🙁
Handcrafted bro handcrafted
Man, after playing the vanilla, modded, and NG+ base game, reading review after review, watching video after video, each time hearing something from the honchos at the studio, it all really just shows how… just disconnected they are, and I gotta be honest… it’s made me pretty much lose any interest in BGS projects. I hope I’m wrong, but ES6 is probably just another middle-of-the-road rpg-ish over-promise.
didn’t KCD have massive studio issues
Rockstar Games in a way has become the new Bethesda, despite having some major flaws themselves. Look at how their AI functions. It’s literally Radiant AI with a different name on it. How come Bethesda can’t innovate like that anymore? How come they don’t actually do anything new to the scene anymore, nothing. Anything they claim is new and innovative has been done already.
Not even unique, No Man’s Sky is on Console
You can 100% be underwhelmed at the expansion (I was) and think its bad and short but to claim you “accidentally” finished it is pretty disengenuous. The entire final mission 100% feels like a conclusion to the dlc. Its not like the end comes out of nowhere. Theres a whole build up and big final battle and full blown ultimatum. You can totally think its bad (its pretty mid imo) but to say youre surprised it ended at that point is just lying basically
Hobestly at this point its just disgusting. Every company is throwing away money and loyal customers because instead of doing what the customers clearly state that they want they do whatever some rich twat wants to do without a secone thought. Theres no excuse to fail in an industry where you get instant actionable feedback. Imagine hells kitchen if Ramsey said ‘oh this needs this this and this done this way’ and they just said ‘nah its fine’ EVERY TIME. What? Why? are you insane or just dumb?
You name a product and there are people who will shill for it, no questions asked. The difference between CDPR and BGS, since they are Luke’s examples, is that CDPR didn’t latch onto the shills saying that Cyberpunk was perfectly fine at launch. They saw the avalanche of criticism and it motivated them to address concerns.
BGS, conversely, has latched (and latched HARD) on to the shills in their fanbase and are listening to them, and only them. That’s how you get Emil’s verbal diarrhea every time he speaks to reporters.
At this point I just want TES6 to be even just slightly better than Skyrim. Just bring back classes and improve quests and I’ll be happy. That’s all I want, can’t be that hard. I expect mods to carry the game anyways, but make the base game good enough to motivate modders to actually work on it.
I put 174 hours into Starfield, from the day of its release. I have put 1,100 hours into Skyrim (on just PC, and ‘lost’ hours from when the game released and I played it on console) and 500 hours into Fallout 4 (on just PC due to, again, ‘lost’ hours on console). I played Skyrim last week and Fallout 4 three weeks ago. The last time I played Starfield was October 22nd, 2023.
It’s a boring, milquetoast game.
I will never understand why this game gets so much hate. Like I get these vague explanations like lackluster story, or it doesn’t function well, but I just don’t see it. I absolutely love it. It’s Space Skyrim! Massively open world/s. I’m no pro gamer, and I’m not playing a game, sipping wine, critiquing every flaw like some professional. I’m just a casual player. But to come out with a game so multifaceted and complex and immersive just to see people shit on it like it was some two dollar indie game… I just don’t understand it. And I’m not speaking about the expansion, because I haven’t played that yet. I’m just talking about the game in general. Sometimes I worry companies will stop trying to make games like this because the consumers seem impossible to please. Reminds me of when overwatch came out with new characters that were free and people were absolutely raging because it’s not what they wanted. Like, it’s free?! If you want something different, go make it lol. Idk.
The problem with Fallout 3’s ending wasn’t that it was an ending like Emil says; it was because it was a stupid ending. What do you mean my companions who are immune to radiation refuse to go press the button for me? I wonder if Emil was the one who wrote that Fawkes line about destiny?
if starfield is their best game ever made, ES6 is cooked.
Luke did rushed it tho because i spent a whole week doing sidequests in shatered space. i’m not saying they’re great side quest but most of them were entertaining and funny at least. So yeah he kinda just rushed it to hate on it.
I honestly don’t know who’s lost their way more BGS or Ubisoft.
no man sky makes starfield look like a demo.
Luke, no one admits to the poor state of things because you youtube critics shit on them anyways with comments like “well if you have to come out and say that blah blah blah” like this very video. Why would devs admit and own up to anything when u guys use it as ammo anyways 🤦♂️
It is the year of our lord October 15th of 2024 and just want Fallout 4 to not crash. I still have never finished that game.
Playing games since 70s. Seen so many game companies with a good start, then growing big and going bad. Most of them don’t exist anymore. Simply because the owners were too stubborn to listen to their customers’ criticism. Nothing new in the gaming world. The company Origin also fell because Richard Garriott was too stubborn to listen to others.
this guy is making a living and feeds his family by trashing the gaming industry – what a time to be alive!
p.s. it won’t change anything, only money talks
Bethesda really doesn’t want to talk about Morrowind…The fact Skyrim is considered peek gaming in Bethesda’s catalogue, shows how easily fooled gamers can be when graphics are the main focus over gameplay.
This is also axiomatic of being owned by a company with Shareholders vs being privately held. If MS’s stock took a dip right after he gave an honest critical assessment of the game, he’d be fired.
Fans do because they are still playing Skyrim, they are still playing fallout 4 after what 13 years, 10 years ago… Skyrim is so old that people are still playing living in that world Starfield for me is my replacement for Skyrim if i want to go back to a game and relive in that world again.
Fallout I never played it just seems like a bore and crap their are way better games in that genre that does it better
There is a new group of fans coming from XBOX, they don’t accept the current status of the console, so they need to see everything as being positive, so they don’t accept criticism on XBOX titles, feeling about it as a personal attack. I’m also a XBOX user, but I’m in the opposite side, I don’t like how Microsoft is managing neither the console nor the titles for the system. I’m tired of this dogma that everything that Micorsoft is publishing is near perfection, if not, you are a PS fanatic or simply a hater.
Fallout 4 is their best game, even with Starfield on the list.
I am forever amazed that creators can be so high on their own kool-aid that they genuinely believe that when their audience gives them feedback that they don’t like must be delusional.
Especially when it’s backed by empirical data.
I wish the media (in this case, gaming) would take a look at themselves and ask why projects failing? It feels every company is pulling the same skinner line of “no its the children that are wrong” line.
As for my personal feelings, I don’t think I’ll be getting another bethesda product anytime soon.
My favorite game released by Bethesda in the last years between 2008-2024 is Fallout New Vegas… That should say a lot as it is not really a “Bethesda” Game.
The thing I absolutely love about FNV is that Choices matter, consequences are given, and player decision is the top priority in the game. The amount of replay ability of that game is amazing, as to even which perks you choose will directly unlock new and amazing dialogue and paths in quests that to this day I keep discovering. If you decide you absolutely hate someone, you can choose to kill them, and then just not be able to do any of the quests that person may have for you.
Instead in Fallout 3, 4, Skyrim, and so on. They fall down and do their stupid little limping around animation. I know you can fix the games with mods, but it just feels so sad that even Bethesda them selves have this attitude.
Mods should add to an experience. Not fix their games for them.
Bethesda is so cooked
I mean, they’re not wrong. Spending 1/3 of game time in loading screens and another 1/3 walking without content to spend the last 1/3 in 4 different repetitive dungeons is a unique gaming experience.
Outer worlds had me wanting to come back and play it till the end and I was sad it was over, starfield was ao boreing and I just gave up after a few days when it came out on gamepass
If you dismiss the criticism, the fans will dismiss your company.
Aight so, gonna be frank here for a bit, this’ll probably get buried, or it may be downvoted, whatever. I am a naturally positive person! I like seeing the bright side, talk about what I like about products rather than complain about what I *don’t* like. So I get the positivity angle. I also get that gamers and nerds in general are some *Whiny ass* people. Make anything and the loudest people are gonna be the ones shitting on it, so I get why they would ignore the criticism. And ultimately, one of the things about being a game dev lead, is that *acknowledging anything wrong about your product is gonna get you sacked by corporate!* . This are all things I understand!
Saying that, as a positive person, starfield has been dreadful. I wanted so much to like it, talk about the good parts! I love ship building! Ship combat is so so but once I understood it I had fun. gunplay is decent! The story touches some interesting aspects about multiverse theory.
that’s all my positivity. I played Shattered Space, and (*cough piracy cough*) for free? Excellent. If it ahd been a free update, I would be giving Bethetsda all of my money by upgrading Starfield to premium edition. If it had been 10 bucks, like automatron? worth every penny. If it had been 20 bucks? I would be a bit miffed but would think it was ultimately worth my time to money, but I’d be complaining to my friends.
For 40 bucks? For 40 bucks I could be buying a brand new game. I could buy Shadow of the Erdtree! With that DLC I got my money’s worth AND THEN SOME!
This is diablo ”don’t you guys have phones?” levels of heads up asses.
Just remember Chris Chan was passionate about sonichu…
Dude, Starfield is NOT for you, move on. Stop being an ego driven Troll. They didn’t make the game to please you.
I was one of the first people to talk mad shit about starfield. I was harassed brutally by Todd fanboys. Sad!
Xbox will be the end of Bethesda
If tes 6 is a flop its make or break for me ill never buy another BGS game if the writers cant cop on
Yeah they need better quests and writing for tes 6 nobody will buy it if its like starfeild
Bethesda is forcing people to like a game that everyone hates,
Bethesda fans are like wow or destiny fans. They love to eat the slop
no way they said that HAHAHAHA
It’s sad to see the state of Bethesda games these days, Honestly the 2005 to 2018 era of Bethesda was peak gaming, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fall out 3/ New Vegas, Fall Out 4, Dishonored, Doom, Rage, Wolfenstein and Evil Within to the garbage they’ve been pumping out recently is actually sad to see. As I teen playing those games I used to can’t wait for what they would do in the future scale wise and it’s honestly pathetic what they do now…. We just had a Fall Out TV show that was very well received by players a new people to the world and they haven’t even announced a new game like Fall Out 5. Like who’s running this company?
Even in a DLC sense some of the elder scrolls DLC were some of the best I’ve played growing up, the Dawngaurd DLC, Dragonborn DLC, Far Harbor, Nuka-World these are great DLC’s to what we get now, SO to do you a favour if you some random dude’s rant on a YT comment section after installing Starfield pick up your controller uninstall Starfield and Install either Fallout 3/4 or Skyrim and have an unreal time
Feel that Luke is enjoying himself too much tearing down shibboleths. He’s not unequivocally addressing the main issue: WHY has this happened to Bethesda? What happened after ES5 and FO4? My theory is Microsoft happened
Phantom liberty had 20+ hours of new, animated dialogue alone, excluding gameplay. That being the same price as shattered space really puts it in perspective
The dlc was so disappointing that I played it and then immediately closed the game
Did ppl actually think a DLC was going to make a significant difference? Wow, wishful thinking.
If they came out with Starfield online where everybody can build not just Outpost but settlements and have businesses come to their small Outpost that can become settlements and grow on that and actually have random shifts Just landing around your base and you have to defend against other people who land and it could be an absorbing amount of people a number of people coming to attack an outpost and it would be really fun because when you get to the Outpost limits or whatever it can trigger like a multiplayer situation why I think would be really fun but I’d be totally down for Starfield online if it was a massive MMO in the middle of Starfield big open space they have a mod now where you can land on asteroids so imagine if you can you know place an outpost on an asteroid sounds kind of cool
Before I even had a chance to play through the opening Mission I had a hatch glitch on me and I had to erase it clean from my system Read download and then play and then rearrange my load order on all my mods and I noticed that the Starfield spacers rescan mod that makes them look like something out of Mad Max what’s something that might not be compatible but all of a sudden I don’t know where it started to work after I removed a few Star Wars mods like the new foo fighter and all that those planes they don’t sit compatible with a lot of the other mods so I had to delete them I’m not worried about Bethesda putting out something in a year if they sold game design programs to everybody we’d all be making our own game
30s now. For the first time time, I’m just going to wait for a year after Bethesda puts something out to figure out if it’s even worth paying for. Why pay full price for something that needs a rears worth of patches to just be meh?
How many years did they put into this piece of shit game? It’s a game that at most could have taken a couple years at most to make. Nothing in it translates to 8 years of development time.
BGS, for a decade, has been that aging, average girl who still thinks she is a 10/10
The magic of Morrowind, then Oblivion, has long passed
I never thought I would say this, but I’ll probably skip ES6 if I live long enough to see its release
Nice comparison with CDPR btw.
About to play this, I got it given to me, got the dlc too , curious why everyone doesn’t like it, guess I’ll find out 😅
I’ve officially lost hope for the Elder Scrolls 6. And I was even saying “At least they got their one bad game out of their system, so TES6 will be incredible.” Now I realize I was wrong. As Dagoth Ur once said, “What a grand and intoxicating innocence”.
I enjoyed Shattered Space, but I enjoy Starfield, too. My main wish after finishing the DLC is that Bethesda made the New Atlantis and Akila City tile as big and full as Dazra. Bethesda made an effort to fill the outlying area of the Dazra tile with content while the area outside the UC and Freestar capitals is simple procedural generation.
Emil is delusional, as long as he’s there bsg is a walking corpse.
Wonder if Microsoft has something to do with all this, the way Bethesda has been lately. 👀
I hope CDPR can pull off what I believe I remember them saying that they want to planning making games at least 5 years or less, ideally 3-4. And hopefully other developers can do this. Not wait 10+ years, giving everyone FOMO.
The fact this released a year later and so mediocre is crazy.
You know the picture with the fire in the bar and the person saying this is fine. That’s Bethesda right now.
I enjoyed shattered space – took my time with it and did a lot of side quests on offer first. Even doing that, it was still short. I finished it in probably 15 hours or so. What disappointed me is that the city of Dazra was actually super tiny , but they keep alluding to thousands of people living there. Maybe fix the city at the end of the storyline? Couldn’t even buy resources in Dazra.
It also didn’t seem super handcrafted to me. The map where Dazra is had a lot of points of interest that were unique, but some of them never even come up in a quest, so I couldn’t get myself to go to them. On top of that, I was already level 55 with endless ammo and weapons… and if you go land at a random point away from Dazra, on the other side of the planet, its just the same empty procedurally generated stuff.
Could have been better. I will just say that the bones are there for great things with Starfield… need more questlines that are meaningful, more factions, bigger cities. Make it feel more like civilization is booming. Next DLC should be some kind of intelligent alien species invading or something, or the discovery of new star systems with different species… idk. I don’t do this for a living. LOL
Starfield is for sure Bethesda’s weakest title but the band wagon hate stuff is insanely unnecessary and overblown.
I just started playing Starfield and have appreciated that all the problem stuff that was there in the beginning wasn’t there. I really liked that about two weeks after I started playing the patch with the vehicle came out. I’d say that my favorite parts were the side quests. I wanted the main story to be better, but that really wasn’t the highlight for me so far. I’ve loved the shipbuilding and somewhat the outposts and I’m looking forward to getting to Shattered Space, but am worried about the experience with it because of what a lot of solid reviewers are saying. But having played almost all previous Bethesda games, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Wolfenstein, Dishonored and Prey. I’m hoping that Mod’s will bring it forward like they did with Skyrim, but if I compare it to Elden Ring or Ghost of Tsushima, Final Fantasy games, Cyberpunk 2077, I have to say it honestly falls flat. I like it, I like the space idea, but its just not what I hoped it would be. And frankly, it worries me as to what is coming for the new Elder Scrolls.
if they are happy with this, imagine what Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be like….
I’m so glad I didn’t buy this game to begin with.
Post the new video Luke
BGS are obviously biased. Their self-affirmations are nothing more than dong water.
bothers me a bit too that the dev mentioned “land mass size” as one of 3 bullet points from Far Harbor that they wanted to emulate.
Bethesda: we don’t want your tired 20 year old formula anymore. You and Ubisoft are examples of companies that keep trying to cheaply and unimaginatively iterate on decades old platforms and they can’t figure out why people aren’t as excited about generic Assassin’s Cell Creedlaws 27 of Fallout Scrolls 49, special super ultimate re-release edition.
It’s impressive how much lower my opinion about bethesda is getting.
Back when I finished the Starfield I assumed my hatred for the game and studio hit the most absolute low, but here we are :/
As somebody who was so incredibly eager for a new Bethesda IP and loved Starfield up to release…. it quickly faded. The first 5 hours were ok, but then it quickly got old and stale — i could see every crack and lost opportunity.
It just… wasn’t the same. I get it — it’s a new IP, engine features, etc…. but the design decisions…. are so obvious….
How aren’t y’all over talking about this bum ass game yet lmao move on
I just wish there was an option to destroy the unity in starfield. That wouldn’t even be the renegade option–it’s the most paragon thing you could do.
Fans were upset about Fallou 3’s original ending because it was badly written.
After instant buying Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and NV, but starting to see clear declines in quality from Skyrim and deciding not to buy FO4, I really don’t understand why people keep giving Bethesda the benefit of the doubt. It’s clear they don’t care about quality, and have no interest in listening to their fans. The company has been run by lawyers (Zenimax) for decades and people keep falling for the same tricks….
At this point, my buy-in for future Bethesda titles is for Emil to have never touched it, period.
It doesn’t really matter how long the next elder scrolls gets delayed… because it’s odds of being better than literally nothing are effectively insignificant.
My put the controller down moment was when I went to Neon I think its called and hearing about how its a massive den of vice and sin, only to walk into an empty club with weird people with ugly rubber suits and the game pretending it was someway erotic.
I like starfield. I work like a normal person. 40+ hour weeks, lately 50-60hrs. Im only able to play an hour or two a day and most days i dont want to do a main mission cause i don’t really have the time. Lvl 30 doing alot of side quests and not done with the main quest with 3 days of gameplay. If i was still able to play 24/7 i would probably understand why people dont like it though.
They need to get rid of Emil – he’s dellusional
I keep hearing about people complaining about “paying” for the expansion. I never paid for it,…one day it was just “there”. Maybe because I originally bought the premium version (or whatever it was referred to as)? Have I played it? No. Not all that interested. It’s centered around House Va’Ruun. I don’t like House Va’Ruun. I don’t like the CF Priates either, I don’t care about them or their society (or lack there of). Spacers? Same thing,…nothing interesting there. Had it been UC or Freestar based, then yeah, I’d consider it worth messing with. That would be a story line I could get behind.
Just look at 343 they didn’t listen to the fans and died
Emil is literal cancel to BGS, full-stop. If they keep him on, his malignant incompetence will eat them alive. It would be one thing to pull a Hello Games and go “shit dudes, we fucked up we fix we fix we fix plzdonthateus” whereas BGS is just like “well maybe it’s just *not for you*” Excuse me, who exactly is this slop for, then? Lobotomy patients?
one of the reasons Far Harbor was way better then Shattered Space and arguably base Fallout 4; is that Emil had no hand in it. Will Shen was the lead behind and looking at Far Harbor even compared to the other dlc for F4 its vastly better quality in every way possible, the story was way more interesting then anything F4 base game had going on and the world is much more iconic then F4 in my personal opinion. Starfield is just so frustrating and boring, that I feel like instead of doubling down on it BGS should have just let this boat sink.
Like with Mass Effect Andromeda where the game was so badly received Bioware and EA just let it die peacefully without shelling out DLC that wouldnt fix the core problems of the game. I wont be buying or playing any other dlc for Starfield because frankly im so disappointed in BGS that even if they do learn their lesson and do better, I cant trust them to not shit all over their own hard work in the future.
Something is going very wrong with Xbox in general. Same feel, it has had good moments in the past but the direction is off…way off.
5:12 Hm. If rich companies stop firing their staff and stop hiring lesser skilled replacements, I think they’d be capable of a lot better.
If that’s their best, that’s a pretty sad joke. Totally different? To what extent? Sci-fi games have been around for ages, and they’ve even made a few. What did they really bring to market space that was different? I mean I can’t even joke that they invented the concept of releasing a broken game, because that certainly isn’t a new thing. Starfield being a technical marvel is a fantastical delusion. Stating it’s the best game they’ve ever made is evidence of losing touch with reality of their past games.
I feel a change of leaderhip is in order. They aren’t releasing stable games, nor games that are truly unique. Being proud of that garbage is pathetic.
8:44 The ending could have been a lot better put together. Zero level of intellegence to the person who wrote that ended. If you’ve got allies who can withstand the ending situation, you’d be an idiot to not utilize this for everyone to survive. That’s just really bad writing what they did. They don’t even own up to it “fans don’t want to play our games”. That is so out of touch with reality.
… I am a fan of complete, and functional great games. I’m not a fan of potential of being great (like how it creates false hopes, and hype), and am not a fan of deaf/out of touch devs. I buy games based on if they are great, not before they are released, and not before they actually are fully functional/complete with very rare exceptions. Those exceptions are based purely on the game, not who makes it. I find people who follow blindly companies regardless of the slop they produce bad for the gaming space.
I’ll play it if they add it to game pass.
I’m gonna be honest bro but your inability to understand the concept of a “vocal minority” is astounding lol. Your takes are so cringe and one sided. Literally nothing Bethesda could do would make you make less negative videos. Bethesda could fix every single issue about Starfield and you’d still make a video about how Bethesda should have done it faster lol. You’re hate farming and it’s obvious my guy lol.
My time in Starfield is about 195 hours. Great game. Isn’t amazing and isn’t groundbreaking. Not every game has to be. But for what Starfield is, it’s a great game and I’ve enjoyed it immensely.
The one thing I never got around to playing in FO4 was Far Harbor. You mention it so much, that I really want to fire up my FO4 and play it. But Bethesda broke my game with their latest update. Womp womp. I am so done with Bethesda.
I’ve been a Bethesda apologist for over twenty years now. I stood up for Horse Armor, Fallout 4, and continue to extol the virtues of Oblivion’s highly saturated land of potato-people.
Starfield fucking broke me and I’m the kind of dude who was able to find hundreds of hours of enjoyment in a non-game like Noctis IV.
Hilarious that what they have been doing for years now, in trying to make a game appeal to more people (dumbing down quests, RPG mechanics, dialogue, simplifying combat, ect) it becomes more and more of a shallow and hollow experience, and then saying that “it might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but what is” is just icing on that irony cake.
Now, I don’t want to see the Elder scrolls and Fallout IP’s fail, but boy oh boy do I want to see Bethesda crumble, I want them to be a shining example to other AAA studios that think they can pull the wool over our eyes.
Sorry to the workers that really do have a passion for what they do, but maybe consider working for somebody who would actually appreciate your work and let you realize it.
I think Luke is absolutely right here about Bethesda, especially Todd and Emil, caught within their own bubble and not reflecting on any of the objective criticism of their games. It’s not a matter of taste, it’s a matter of quality.
The classic, once beloved Bethesda is long gone. All Todd cares about now is how to monetize their old classic games with paid mods in the creation club. I have ZERO faith in ES6.
I’m still a fan and I still think they have what it takes to make amazing games. But I won’t be spending a dime until I know for a fact it’s worth it.
People who had to pay for the game to play it: Starfield is just not that good, there are too many bugs that make no sense being there in a AAA full priced fully launched game, the paid mods are BS as you pay way to much for them and some aren’t even properly working, did they even play test the game before launch? The planets exploration is boring as there is nothing to see or do outside of the main quest area and it takes way to long to travel around for absolutely nothing. THe AI is dumb again, the Companions aren’t very interesting and why the heck is the texture of my planet gone and replaced with a “There should be a texture here” texture?
Paid Bethesda Employee: This is perhaps the greatest game we ever made yoh. People put a lot of effort in it to make it so great, so great, it is amazing, it is the best space RPG (right, we forget about Mass Effect?) made, I really don’t get why people are complaining. It’s simply not okay for people to complain cause other people said they love it so you guys really don’t know what you talk about.
I finished the DLC in 2 evenings after work, PURPOSELY making sure to do every side quest I could find to extend it as long as possible.
I really hate how the whole DLC went. They turned the Serpent into a complete lie, and it had so many possibilities. The character writing was terrible IMO. They didnt feel like a SUPEREMELY devouted civilization at all.
That said: I loved the ending running battle. That is something I wish there was a lot more of in SF
I think the procedurally generated content system has potential, a big issue with modded locations in old Bethesda games is finding places to put the modded location without conflicting with what’s already there or other mods, hell with Project Zomboid the situation has gotten so bad that a map showing the locations of where major modded locations occupy had to be made up and even then some modders had to get together and make compatibility mods for their locations so they didn’t override one another.
With procedural generation a modder could make unique locations and then have those locations or variants of them spawn in without risking compatibility issues but that’s the main problem here. The procedurally generation system is good but Bethesda didn’t put a lot of variation in their POI’s to begin with and there’s other issues with the game people don’t like the modders understandably don’t want to move over from Skyrim or Fallout the system won’t be taken advantage of it as they’ve already got a good thing going on Skyrim and Fallout
All in all good video but I frankly dont understand what do you mean about next gen Fallout 4 patch, how does it break the game? I’ve been playing it for last like couple of weeks, almost no mods whatsoever and nothing bad ever happened to me, not even a single problem? Am I missing smth?
So long as Todd and Emil are there I can’t trust buying another Bethesda game. It might not all be on them, but they’ve shown they are a huge part of the problem there and can’t be trusted to deliver, keep promises, or actually take criticism and improve.
Bethesda will never return to their former glory. They are unable to recreate what made their games so great to begin with, you can notice it with Emil’s speech about Shattered Space. He said he wanted to recreate Far Harbor. But its all watered down and so simplified and boring that it doesnt make you want to explore the DLC area that much. They tried to be good again, they simply lost it.
I am just gonna say that if you played fallout 1,2 and new vegas and also the wannabe fallout titles and compare them honestly. You will always come to the conclusion that Bethesda always went with the most lazy, superficial way of doing things and even the writing is horrible. Where games tried to deliver a believable world for the player and for the person playing to be able to be immersed. Bethesda never tried that, they rarely ever introduced new enemies nor did they care that the world was well stupid in itself (for example nobody cleans up rubble for hundreds of years and humans still live in rubble). Do you believe that?
Bethesda was and always has been garbage. Can their games be fun? Sure but as soon as you see how they approach fallout (to them is a wasteland nuka cola& power armor). Iirc the only game that even created new enemies was fallout 76.
yeah…I like Starfield but the dlc looks bad. I do agree with what the Bethesda guy said because everything he said is safe. Yes Starfield is one of big three because they are the only three and it sits next to Elder Scrolls and Fallout but on the kiddie chair. He leaves out the uncomfortable parts that a man who worked on previous RPGs likely already knows. I see one of two possibilities, for some reason if you talk shit about anything Starfield and you get canned or he doesn’t want to be the one to admit fault on the internet and take all the blow back. These are the only times I’ve seen people use this kind of half truth safe talk.
I love how they do their own reviews on their own games and give it a 10 out of 10 and expect people to fall for that.
That’s the reason why Bethesda has been falling down for a decade. They are completely immune to any criticism. You just CAN’T reach them. It happened with Skyrim. Skyrim was a great game but it had problems. And they have kept a decade pretending it doesn’t. As a consequence, Fallout 4 was not a great game. It was good, but nothing special. It was already outdated. Think that witcher 3 was released the same year as fallout 4.
And now we are here. Such a meh game is Starfield.
I read/heard a while ago that one of the main writers responsible for a lot of TES lore doesn’t work for BGS anymore.
I think this adds to the shallowness resulting from the Ubisoft-like approach to gamers and developing games and is at the heart of the problem. Greed basically. Do minimal effort to create a good, enjoyable game and fill it with cashgrabs to compensate for the lost revenue created by leaving fans.
Might work for now, but no way is it going to last long. The legacy they have is quickly dissipating and it is a matter of time before they fall off the wagon entirely.
I feel like the whole Bethesda is doing some weird Zack Snyder roleplay that they are so much up in their own ass that they refuse to see the blatant faults with their games and still saying how they are the best.
Emil is the same dufus who said “skyrim is a game about dragons”. He summed the whole game up with that definition. He’s also the one whom came up with fallout 4’s dialogue system
The best thing about Starfield is that all the modders are trying to make it a star wars sandbox
another mod solution lol
“Listening to the fans” – pathetic
Where’s the KCD video
That whole “space exploration is supposed to be boring like real life” probably ruined more potential buyers than anything else about this game I imagine.
Shame. This game had real potential but as always, ball was dropped.
Edit: wait what?! Richest Space RPG ever? What about elite dangerous, star citizen, eve online, no mans sky etc… Lol we will just ignore them then shall we BGS?
4:50 that little video frame right next to you got me interested, added to wishlist.
Are the “people who love it” in the room with us right now, Emil?
Sounds almost exactly like Ubisoft.
Wait.. the dlc came out? This is how I find out that the dlc came out?? Wtf
Any time I see Emil open his mouth I often see him eat those words later.
I hope Bethesda realizes this guy is a PR nightmare and not as talented as he is expect to be and clearly out of touch with the fanbase / gamers as a whole.
And its not like this mess started with Starfield, nor with Fallout 76 and not even with Fallout 4, the cracks started with Skyrim where, and I know this is not how people play or how its meant to be played but, the main questline could be done with 6 to 9 hours.
You could even go back to Oblivion with the horse armor and relatively wooden NPCs but id chalk that up to how games were at the time.
Slightly boring maybe, but short and shallow ? Dont be ignorant
Emil Pagliarulo: Fans didn’t like the ending to Fallout 3 because they want to keep playing forever.
Fallout 3: Enter this radiation area to win the game and just die. Even though you have many ways to deal with radiation at this point in the game, because you’ve actually had to survive radiation areas to get to the end in the first place.
Yeah. That must be it, Bethesda.
I didn’t even really like Far Harbor but its head and shoulders better than Shattered Space. Shattered space is better than Starfield but man. Starfield has a lot of mechanics i love, so many in fact, but goddamn its like they have you in an empty box and thats it, check out our SWEET lighting and SWEET mechanics, craft and mod all the things, mine all the things, YEAH BABY! but after that its like um ok um great mechanics. Why do i want to live in this world. Where are the insects? WHERE IS THE LIFE? If all of that was in Skyrim, i would _die_. Lifeless but excellent mechanics sim meets beautiful world sim = GOTY every year until the heat death of the universe.
Your video was longer than the Starfield DLC.
I consume more content on YouTube bashing Starfield than I care to ever put into the game itself. Wake up, Bethesda.
EDIT: Maybe i’m the problem…
the point made at the 9m mark, absolutely perfect. Replay in infinite combinations, not a single continuous character forever. Well done.
500 hours in Starfield. I tried. I really tried and really gave it a shot by playing multiple characters and role playing. The game is just not good. The main issues are the writing and questing.
I beat the DLC, and it wasn’t that bad. I think haters haven’t really even played it yet (0.7% of players have beat it). The person on Steam talking about insomnia is a liar, because the final Citadel mission was over tuned. I hate the new planet, but it was weird spending so many days on a single planet, ignoring my ship, space, and all other planets. Would love to see more of this concept, but which planets that aren’t dark 24/7 or looking like post apocalyptic. I’ve played more than 500 hours. Game is still far from perfect but still a million times more fun than NMS or Fallout 4. Still nowhere near god tier that Skyrim is
is this the broader gaming audience just learning what it’s like to be someone who’s been playing and complaining about Bethesda games for the last 20 years?
I 100% starfield my first time around and I don’t have any interest in ever playing it again. A lot like Skyrim one of the worst aspects of star field is that you can do every quest for every faction and no one cares. What makes Skyrim replayable though are the different races and play styles you have which are completely gone in starfield. So both have poor story and gameplay, but starfields lack of replayability through rpg elements make it way worse. Along with how the one thing bethesda does amazingly (exploration) is significantly worse in starfield because of how empty most of it is and how most of the areas are locked behind multiple loading screens to get too.
Way more content than Operation Anchorage as a first DLC for comparison
I think its great so far. Too many people being mad superficial over something only for pure leisure, thats free none the less. Im happy on very hard, realism. Knocks all of the console tarkov boxes, especially over level 120. Im on day what 4 of playing it for 4 hours a day and I keep getting wrapped up with sidequests and on very hard, max difficulties its honestly only that. Each “dungeon” or outpost has good gear, some new, and I end up getting my moneys worth finally fighting opponets that could one shot you easy if you’re not in your suit. id give it an 8/10 and honestly Bethesda DLC in the past used to be 40 dollars.
I truly don’t think you understand what objectivity is. Sure you can look at far harbour and say “it’s got more quests” “it’s got more potential endings” “it’s got more characters” “it takes the average person 2x longer”, “it’s got more dialogue” or whatever, but that’s basically it (apart from objective technical observations etc). None of that is actually enough to say it’s “objectively” better. You can maybe say it’s objectively bigger? And if you define value for money as size / cost you can probably say the designed content is objectively better value for money. But that’s kinda the end of the “objective” commentary you can make. You need to be subjective to determine that it’s better.
“X is better than Y” without some qualifier that makes it objective (like, “in that is was released more recently”) can’t ever really be an objective statement.
I’m sure most people would agree that Far Harbour is better than Shattered Space. I’m sure even I will when I play it. But you’re not being “objective” to say that.
At least Emil does not directly call his games fan Dumbasses.
ES6 and Fallout 5 is going to be dumb down so badly too the point a toddler could play it
Let me guess: They responded with corporate double speak?
I’m sure creating a procedural engine is extremely difficult. That being said, developers leaning on a procedural game just reads as lazy. You don’t want to spend the time carefully crafting an experience, you want to code a system that provides the experience for the player. We never wanted that, we wanted well crafted story we could experience.
Emil gets high off of smelling his own farts.
The only people that I personally know who have played Starfield and the DLC and liked it are people with very little time to game who, as a result, have very little to compare it against. I’m not saying their opinions are wrong, just that they might feel differently if they were able to play more games.
Can we get a video on the Star Wars reskin mod of Starfield? Looks extremely promising and in many ways could be what fans wanted from Star Wars Outlaws
The games story is just dull. Locations aren’t that great either. Neon is the only location that is sorta cool at 4k everything else is just “ok.” The idea of being able to team up with pirates to me was the coolest part but even that really has no effect
If you “Love” Starfield you are not a real BGS fan. 😉
This Starfield DLC was a waste of my time. Far harbor was great and I’ve made new saves just to play that before the main fallout 4 quest.
Best game ever made isn’t about the public reception but about the technical achievement they have managed to do. Comparing to their other titles is about the universe they created not public reception. this yt has no idea how to interpret answers and comes of as disingenuous.
I can remember every Oblivion and Skyrim play through i ever did but I can’t remember anything from my mere 10 hours in Starfield.
What does this tell you?
Maybe for an expansion priced at 10$ its ok but almost 50$ tax in for 4h gameplay common…
I started the DLC and was so bored. I stopped halfway through the first mission.
The fact that Starfield is STILL $70 right now is mindblowing. The game that is already a year old, has only 13k players right after a DLC release, and is currently sitting at a 59% mixed review score on steam. I went to go check it out the other day figuring that it could pick it up for cheap since it should be heavily on sale after its poor launch, only to see it was still at its original price point and thought, why… keeping it at that already high price isn’t going to bring anyone new in. No way im buying that game until it is AT LEAST sub $20, preferably lower but Bethesda is greedy so i doubt it would ever make it below that.
“Something completely unique on consoles” … mass effect creators are just laughing rn
Same thing with NMS I will always be a fan of hello games now. They seen they fumbled they listened and fixed the game above and beyond. And for them to claim Star Field is the premier space expiration game on console. They can f*** right off with that. It’s No Man’s Sky hands down.
15:48…. Yes.
I’ve lost interest in a lot of games I used to play. What I mean is, loved elder scrolls series, but am no longer looking forward to es6. Same with mass effect, we won’t get a real mass effect ever again..
We weren’t upset that Fallout 3 just ended. We were upset that Fallout 3’s ending was /badly written/. Exceptionally so, in fact. Broken Steel fixed one of the most egregious parts, that we couldn’t get Fawkes, immune to radiation as he was, to push the button.
Let’s face it. Gaming is an industry now. And everything absorbed by industry turns to crap in one way or another. Cars, food, money, health, fun. It’s all the same pattern. They are going for the profits only. Why would they make the effort to create outstanding products when the mass of their customers is happily accepting much less? They merely have to raise the bar graphics wise to make every me-too-dude fall for it. Is that so hard to understand? The only thing you can do as a gaming enthusiast is close this chapter of your life and move on. At least that’s what I did.
I’m one of those players that wants to use the same save for 5000 hours. With new mods and using the systems lol so that part isn’t out of touch
Bethesda seems to have outsourced their writing to junior high school students who have only ever watched TikTok and neve read a book or watched a decent movie. Give me a bottle of whisky and a weekend and I could come up with 5 main questlines better than the one found in the original game. Oh sorry did I say main questline? I meant endlessly repetitious same-same fetch quests.
WTF happened?!
I thought Starfield itself was okay.I played it to new game +++ and did everything possible quest-wise with every option and for each faction – in 286 hours. For most other single games that would be a normal or even long playtime.But for Bethesda? The game company that made single player games I played so extensive that my play time came close to some MMORPGs? The shortest one before was ~1500h (Fallout 4) The longest one nearly 3000 (Skyrim + its Special Edition). Of course that was with hundreds of mods.
In the end it’s just sad. The game had so much potential and for a while it was fun to play (even with all the bugs etc., as Bethesda players we are used to get the real patches from the mod devs.
What really pissed me off were all the PR lies they kept repeating, even after the release. And sadly it looks like they didn’t learn anythingfrom it and are following the exact same path further. NO TODD, THAT JUST DOES NOT WORK
the best game BGS made was morrowind
Bethesda. Bethesda never changes.
I appreciate that we take credit for 10s of thousand hours of dev work from a single person at a company, just because we wrote ‘cyberpunk 2077 sucks’
I think he’s high on the copium. Starfield isn’t anywhere close to being the richest space sim/rpg. Maybe in the ship building. But take that away and no man’s sky is infinitely better. Then to say its a technical marvel, of what procedural generation. Barren world upon world bioware did this in 2011 with DA2. Next as far as the best game they ever made no that was Skyrim for many. For me 8t was Morrowind. Lastly to compare Starfield to Elderscrolls and Fallout is insane as it doesn’t even touch the quality of those ip’s. This why I believe bethesda is done. They should all be fired restructured by Microsoft or closed and laid to rest. Twenty three years to make Starfield, 19 – 23 years for ES6, 15-20 years for fallout 5. Meanwhile ES3 to ES4 took 4 years and was an insane leap forward. Fallout 3 to Fallout 4 took 7 years and had the same giant leap forward. They lost the passion and are losing their fans with every day. Fail to listen or respect the fan base. Make changes that ruin modding community ever few years. Who’s keeping the company and games alive.
Who knew that Bethesda would be worse than with Robert A. Altman.
22:20 That is exactly why Emil Pagliarulo kept getting promoted, basically failing upwards and the games selling not because of his writing but DESPITE his bad writing… And as a typical western game dev, he thinks its all because of him! That guy’s ego is so massive i’m pretty sure he’s gonna replace Todd once he retires after the failure of TES6.
I played Starfield for 95 hours, went through most of the content, and uninstalled it. I’ve been playing BGS games since Morrowind and truly wanted to love Starfield, but I concluded that I don’t like it. The fishbowl gameplay loop is not for me. If I want to play a BGS game then I’ll go back to Skyrim. My expectations for ESVI are not high.
To be fair he said it’s the best in some ways. It definitely is the most technically impressive and big.
Tf y’all
Where’s Michael Kirkbridge rn
Ya’ll fucked up, get Kirkbride on the phone
If I was CEO I would put an immeasurable amount of resources into that man
All you have to do is look at the success of Disco Elysium. Some great outliers like Dread Delusion.
People don’t want safe in writing.
People JUST don’t want what ALL people want. And what I mean to say is, you can’t PACKAGE that. That’s just not how it works.
To come out and touch on that without the least bit of extrapolation, nuance even.
Just fire the guy. Why is he there? To make BGS look worse? I don’t get it. It’s all the guy does beyond mediocre.
There are so MANY TALENTED PASSIONATE WRITERS IN THE WORLD. Be fucking WEIRD it’s what makes the GAMES GOOD. Be PASSIONATE. Be REAL.
Ffs.
The more Emil talks, the more he digs that hole deeps until Todd bails him out once again…
Starfield is dull. Enemy AI combat is weak. Planets and their bases are copy + paste. The universe is not a space simulator when you spend most of the time fast travelling. Space flight is so restricted. The writing is just not compelling. Your choices do not feel like they matter. The 60fps update made a huge improvement in very limited areas, the rest of the time it feels like wading through treacle.
Starfield is nowhere near the same level as Elder Scrolls or the Fallout series.
If Bethesda leadership really thinks that “if someone believes their idea is good, it’s going to be good” we’re so fucked. Unreal delusion. It’s like they’re asking to fail
I’d like to hear more from the devs about *why* they chose to do certain things. Might help bridge the gap between player expectations and what the devs can deliver. For example with vehicles, they weren’t included in the base game at launch and there were some Todd interviews where he seemed opposed to vehicles in Starfield. What changed his mind? Was it player feedback or something they intended to do post-launch from the beginning? What sort of tech did they have to implement to make ground vehicles possible? How long did it take? I feel like if we weren’t in the dark on so many of these decisions it might help players to be more understanding.
BGS wants a perticipation medal for putting out an expansion
When financiers or their mindsets take control of a studio this is when game devs become hot garbage.
What I did not get is why they did not add serpent specific ship modules with such a “huge DLC” that everyone has been waiting for.
Microsoft bought em. They’re doomed.
Starfield literally has the exact same NPC’s as Fallout 4 and 76, morally it’s all shades of light gray, socially they’re almost all progressive Californians, everything in this “vast universe” is the same, it’s uncreative. At least Skyrim had strife, it had differences in its social order, Fallout 4 was way better in this regard than Starfield but you can see it happening already… That is my main worldbuilding critique, it’s all so safe, that’s what I loved about Cyberpunk 2077, it’s so real in comparison to Starfield and Fallout 4, not everyone is a Californian progressive portrayed with a white or slightly gray moral compass… Even the most “evil” companions in Starfield are basically a pirate/soldier archetype with the “things happen” mentality, and another pirate who already looks more judgey towards amoral behaviour, even Fallout 4 had Strong, X6-88, Old Longfellow, MacReady and Cait with far more dark gray and compromising moral tendencies, let’s say. Skyrim is full of followers that like chaos and destruction. I am a goody-two-shoes in games, but a complete lack of any real evil in the world devalues the efforts of my player character… How are you the hero if there are no real villains? Even in Cyberpunk, where everyone is morally gray in some capacity, you can make morally consistent choices one way or the other and they always have consequences and can make you into a hero to many people for having improved their personal lives. In Starfield, there’s no real exploitation or evil, the mid level of Neon is supposedly this abusive seedy underbelly, but it’s just a few warehouses with drug dealers that everyone can just avoid and it’s otherwise quite fancy bars and just people going about their business, there’s no actual criminal/evil element, no abusive brothels (even Fallout 3 had this with Moriarty’s pub in Megaton), no real active street crime (like I said, it’s just gangs contained in warehouses), no violent threat that constantly looms over the denizens of the area, like the gangs in Cyberpunk clearly are (you regularly see these violent encounters were gangs are about to ‘yeet’ citizens), and in many missions against the Scavengers more active in the outer parts of Night City, well, you see the worst humankind has to offer in that world… Starfield is just a bland, fake, hollow experience… Skyrim wasn’t fake and Fallout 4 wasn’t that hollow, they were sometimes bland, but Starfield really is a combination of all those three to a high degree. Complete lack of direction, it’s like action movies not showing blood to get a lower PG rating, but in this case losing your more intelligent adult audience in the fakeness.
all there game is, is a generated world that isnt even hand made except for the few set pieces they made and called it the day, oh and the quests feels like filler quests that don’t have any meaning, it just exists to be there and is uninspired. this is an example of trying to do the bare minimum and trying to make people believe that its a hard and difficult task. literally 1-2 people in a basement with real programming experience can do better, look at indie games.
If they’re so obnoxiously determined to give former fans the finger, I really think Microsoft should forcibly rip Fallout out of Bethesda’s hands till TES 6 is released, and license a New Vegas styled “Off-Chapter” game to coincide with Season 3 of the Fallout TV show.
Just test it once. See if it works. And when that money comes in, watch Bethesda sweat and have an internal revolution from how bogged down, and ludicrously out of touch their internal processes are.
Same guy who said Nate the mc of FO4 was the person who committed a war crime in the opening of FO1
these videos feel like the same kind of content political grifters make. where they just complain and make other people upset so they continue to watch and give the grifter money.
Space engineers is a nearly decade old game, and it’s already a bigger simulation game. It also (probably) about to have a better story.
They NEED this IP to be good because it’s THEIRS. They acquired Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Doom, everything they have that people like originated somewhere else.
”Luke you didnt rp walk everywhere and spend 100 hours on the dlc theres content there you just rushed passed it.” – a bethesda fanboy probably
I LOVE fallout 4, and i love far harbor. But hearing Luke say far harbor has nuance to the writing compared to shattered space really tells me all i need to know
Forget this game, play Skyrim 🙂
Y’all should have stopped supporting them as soon as 76 released. People only learn when there are consequences to their actions
I’ve got roughly 10 days of gameplay in Starfield and truly love the game. Are there issues? Yes. Are there things I would like to see changed? Yes. Do I believe it’s a trash pile? No. Was the DLC a little lackluster? Kinda but was still fun. This is just a single opinion that truly means nothing to anyone except someone who wants clicks and views. I could make a shit ton of videos blasting Bethesda for the Fallout Series because I hated it but does that make me wrong? No, it’s just my personal opinion and my opinion doesn’t mean a damn thing nor does this one.
We want to explore and be rewarded for it
Totally agree, the expansion is totally underwhelming. I thought the main Varuun family questline was just the introductory challenge to kick the expansion off!….turns out it was the whole thing!!
Everyone hates everything while thinking every thing was made for them, and I find it absolutely hilarious.
I’m a fallout 4 fanboy but elden ring dlc gave me 200+ hrs of content and is only ten more dollars than shattered space dlc
8:38 my man emil here realizing what the people that made Daggerfall (Todd included) were already doing in 1994 and calling it a pivotal point for the company.
silence is golden emil, silence is golden
Dismissing criticism and living in a bubble – This is exactly how I felt about Pokémon GO and Pokémon MSG and why I eventually walked away.
At this point, Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be telling players that they’ll need to make up their own stories while demanding you run radiant quests non-stop. It’s going to suck so fucking hard because Bethesda can’t be bothered to even try.
What is the most infuriating about them not caring what people think and lying to themselves is that most people who played shattered space on day one, paid 120 friggin dollars for that content, only to feel ripped off and then told “well its you who’s the problem”. I honestly believe Emil owes us an apology, for basically calling us too stupid to understand his shit writing. I love Bethesda, and its disheartening to hear the developers make us pay for them to drag their balls across our faces and when we don’t like it, call us the problem.
I spent 5 hours playing it, a paltry amount to any. But compared to their other games they drew you in at the first scene. I’ll never forget leaving the vault in Fallout 3 and seeing the world opening in front of us. Just staring at the screen and just so exited to explore. I just never felt drawn into the game from the start and lost interest in playing. I did find all of the load screens irritating but I was just not interested in playing it. So I got the 5 hours in and just uninstalled it.
no one is listening to feedback
05:50 “Fallout has its own unique personality” No, a unique personality is the exact thing it doesn’t have. It’s not even really bad, it’s just…nothing. You know, like Taylor Swift’s music.
I played Starfield for about 20 minutes and was bored I can’t quantify it. Like, I’m a fan of Bethesda and past titles they have made, shoot I like Fallout 76 even if it’s still considered a dumpster fire by most but starfield is just so generic. You have this massive universe where you can do so much, and it plays no different than a linear fps at times that takes no risks and can be often compared to Skyrim or Fallout.
People still trust this company? Bro
Bethesda is not the Bethesda of 15 20 years ago. It is Microsoft/EA now. Which means PAID mods, half-hearted content, and exploitation.
Bethesda WILL become the next Q4/2024 Ubisoft
i actualy wonder of the people playing bethesa games are the same people that played oblivion and skyrim back in the day,oblivion started in 2006 thats 18 years ago,how manny of those people stil play bethesda games today?
am shure there are a desent number but allot of these people have probably moved onto other things as they are now 33-40 + with families and other things to do.
a large shunk of the players are no the same people annymore,i am one of the old player base i played oblivion when i was 16 or so and am now 40 and starfield follows pretty much the same recepy as oblivion and skyrim its just a space theme now.
what i do see is a increase in people that are overcritical today,sometimes its valid but sometimes its not,you complain about a gun not working properly but in skyrim and oblivion all the deadric special boss weapons where underpowered aswel and you couldnt repower them ones they where empty so ya this has always funny enough been a betheda thing.
the weapons you could make where always better then the drops you got this was always a thing,am not saying its good but lets not pretend bethesda hasnt been doing this al along lets not say they been getting worse because they always did this its not new.
if people start complaing about it more that kind of indicates they are people that are relatively resent players meaning of the last 4 years or so.
i like there games yes there not perfect and can have strange bugs but thats weirdly the bethesda charm,no i dont like all the mechenics but wel thats something we just have to take as it is,a game doesnt have to be 100% how we want it to be and if a person doesnt like it oke thats fine then dont buy it.
Oh they jammed it into an Xbox alright. They really just slammed the game together with duck tape and hope
I hate to be that guy but I saw this coming with Skyrim. That was very much the beginning of their iterating not innovating stage.
The biggest problem is that this should have come out when players started bailing on it. They lost most of their players for good.
This reminds me of the layoffs at Bungie and what their ex lawyer said, they are just too arrogant.
is starfield the best game they ever made wel technologicaly wize its up there,people seem to forget that skyrim and new vegas everyone nostagic hart strings where full of bugs and also had complaint launches yet over time they because peoples favorite games.
so did most people over time just turn into massive complainers and spoiled people? i think the answer is in between but leans most towards that most complainers are just you tube streamers,because there isnt much diffirence between starfield and skyrim or new vegas both games have the same playtimes same dynamics also bugs also memarable people.
yes some games are just crap but starfield isnt one of them,is shattered space short? maybe i havent played it yet but dawnguard you could also finish in one day maybe 2 same for fallout dlc except maybe fallout 4 oke maybe shatterd space is a tad bit shorter but dlc’s where never longer then a day or 2 that means in hours they are usualy 4-6 hours long.
the reason a dlc takes a while the first time is because its new you dont know where what is yet,if you know and just go through it you wil be finished in 3-4 hours.
Comparing Starfield to any other space game should be considered a felony. Because they coulda had a good game if only they paid any form of attention to the market they’re getting in with their “dream game”. And judging by Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be a massive disappointment. Stick to Skyrim moding, is my advice.
‘space sim’ …whenever you call something a simulator you know it’s not gonna be fun. you know, starfield may be dull but the thing that pisses me off most is having a new game+ mode they want you to play like at least 3x, it feels like, and don’t let you take your equipment with you.
Bethesda just wont innovate and change making the same game with a new coat of paint gets old after a while
You are spot on with your analysis…unfortunately.
Bethesda really needs to learn from Ubisoft’s collapse.
As much as I enjoy this channel, Luke, you absolutely rushed it. Also, I think it’s fair to point out that negative news generates views in a way nothing else does. Some people are just easily influenced both by trending YouTube content and the desire to be in the spotlight.
Again, I enjoy the channel, but doubt this would be his consensus if he didn’t have a trend-influenced pre-conceived notion in mind when making this video. Luke – you’re better than this!
“Our game is so great, it’s the best game we’ve ever made.” Ah yes, the MAGA strategy. Just keep saying a turd is amazing over and over and over.
We’re proud of it. We think it’s our best game. We we we…. They don’t give a shit about what they’re consumers want, they think achieved something because they made a game and that’s it, studio is obviously full of amateurs. Don’t give these hacks your money.
Well you know what? I think we as customers have to force behaviours, behaviours of making an actually good product made by inspired people that were hired by their merit and not by DEI HR departments.
Dying at the end of a game absolutely affects a player’s interest in playing. It affects immersion by constantly forcing the player to ask themselves “What’s the point?” I absolutely hated the constant relic malfunctions in Cyberpunk totally destroying my experience that I rushed through the main quest to get healed, only to find hopeless endings. Really disappointing.
who cares? Ask Ubi who cares.
I guess, if I took an arguable ancient engine that was 12 years old, but re-compile it with newer support libraries. Then make an RPG out of it, I’d be feeling pretty happy with myself as well. The problem I see is that even through “Creation Engine 2” was apparently newly made for Starfield. It still feels, acts, and plays like a 12 year old engine. What I think they wanted to do is completely make a brand new engine, but the penny pincher/share holding board members vetoed the expense but approved a “re-compiled” Creation Engine.
What I take from this is people are just spoiled no matter what they do they get hate for it I personally want them to just do what they are gonna do. If you don’t like it that’s your problem don’t play it just let people enjoy what they are going to enjoy or not enjoy it is not your world you cant shove your thoughts on other people. Stop being jealous that other people enjoy the game and you dont and cant for whatever reason.
I don’t really see what’s so unique about it. . . The planets? Flying around in a spaceship? What is unique? I get that a lot of people put their heart and soul into the game for years on end, i appreciate their efforts I feel bad for 😊them.
You can say “there is some people who like it”, but you can say that about any game. . . Even some of the worst games in history had someone who like them. The best only way to truly measure a games greatness is by the rating scores, sales and player counts. And by those numbers, starfield is NOT a great game.
Wait why do you keep todd in the bedroom 🤨
I think BGS should stop to lying, to themselves to start with. They are no longer capable of improving, not fundamentaly at least and/or not without serious changes. Their last truly good game came out in 2011, and since then, it wasn’t stagnation,their games are getting worse and worse.
Mine glitched out while rescuing the hostages there is a blue quest marker floating in the middle of the air and cant reach it to pass that point but im not suprised the game glitched and wouldnt let me run the red mile either
I played several of the Elder Scrolls games, even ESO. I tried Starfield. Just getting to the first fight in Starfield could have been a cutscene. It was boring. Heck, in Skyrim and ESO, they point you toward weapons BEFORE the first fight.
lol people are surprised? This is kinda their MO. Look at their past.
Let’s just be honestly with ourselves here…there will never be another Elder Scrolls game. Go ahead and just download Nolvus and patiently wait for SkyWind the elder scrolls remake. I think those are much much more exciting at this point. Pains me to say it…but IF Bethesda realeses TES6…I’m not so sure I would even buy it.
It’s the richest space simulation? Emil, Tell me you’ve not played other space games without telling me you’ve not played other space games.
BGS is going the way of Ubisoft
Nobody forced yo all to buy this crap and their other failures u kept feeding them , stop complaining
That article was just propaganda for an internal audience.
Hard to make and ambitious does not counterweigh BAD
Its only 4 hours on content?! Sweet baby Talos! A DLC should be 20 hours at least!
Just read the game-reactor interview where one of their guys said that their game engine is perfectly optimized for their kind of game development and that taking on another engine would be to time consuming and risky. . .
The freaking engine they are running still has bugs and issues from back in oblivion and before and is becoming super difficult to optimize in. . .
Fallout 3 finished brilliantly bleak. Some many dummies, both game devs and salty gamers.
people need to stop hopping for elder scrolls 6 because it is not going to be good with current bethesda, they have lost their touch.
The outer worlds and No man’s sky might have a few choice words to say in regards to that comment about consoles and space games.
Bethesda is the worst company out there. They simply can not make something that works properly and they consistently fail to listen to the players, but they love to reach in our pockets. There are atomic shop items in FO76 that I have bought & came broken, some of which got fixed years later & others that are still broken. And there is the that stuff I bought that disappeared. Bethesda sucks ass.
TBH I think it’s gonna be similar to elderscrolls in the since, it’s gonna take at least the 3rd installment to take off
Not surprised by any of this. I didn’t predict just how bad Starfield would be, but after being excited by the initial announcement I was deflated almost immediately when they announced it was on the Creation Engine. They’ve made it very clear that the engine isn’t handling what they want to do anymore, with 76 and then Starfield being total messes and people being generally bored by their games all feeling the same. So unless they say “We’re rebuilding a new engine from scratch” and adjust how they interpret feedback publicly, I see no reason to remain interested in what they’re doing. The money has busted their workflow.
I always assumed the people mad at the “best game” thing weren’t native English speakers. Weird to hear native English speakers not understanding how “in some ways” modifies that statement.
I thought the DLC was fine, but it should of been 10-15 dollars instead of 30 for a single faction quest line
Any DLC-sized mod on Skyrim’s Nexus is deeper and longer than whatever the garbage they’re selling you.
Especially, mods are free, you receive support, can exchange ideas and creators totally deserve a donation.
Support mod creators and enjoy their content, only buy the vanilla products when on great sales on third party sites selling keys, really, these thieves don’t deserve your money anymore, always delivering empty and bad crafted skeletons for full prices and leave it all to the community to fix by themselves through modding.
What RPG are they talking about? You don’t make any choices that matter. It is a linear experience, so not sure what Kool-Aid they are drinking.
Just more confirmation from Bethesda themselves that there’s no hope for TES6 – and also for Fallout 5, because i don’t think that even bad sales and reception on TES6 will make them change anything.
They knew that Fo76 was fucked, they knew that Starfield would make the hardcore Bethesda-fans go YEAH! in the beginning (especially the starship-designing), but it won’t hold up. Not even talking about the Fallout 4-reactions …
The Bethesda special ingredient is ‘ don’t give a damn’.
Modern game devs are crap. Don’t get surprised this turned into hot garbage.
Starfield=No man sky at launch + Fallout 76
“no ego”
From everything I’ve heard emil is one of the most egotistical people around. And he sits there lauding starfield as “omg the best sci fi rpg evar!!”. It’s clear the people at bethesda have zero interest in honest feedback, they want to be told that they’re doing great work and everyone loves them but maybe they could make the sky a bit bluer next time. They won’t listen if you tell them they’ve made a monumental mis-step and that games like this are not what the fans want. Emil is clearly a huge problem in that he’s not a very good writer in the first place but he’s also representative (and perhaps causative) of the general arrogance in the studio’s leadership.
I hope consumers finally start thinking with TESVI and don’t blindly buy it because of the name. Bethesda needs a reality check.
“our players” is the same way as saying ‘our democracy” we know who ‘our’ is.
I tried hard to like Starfield spending probably 250 hours on it, though 200 of that was base building for grinding XP.
Its just an inoffensive game that insults the player. You have no agency, the writing is terrible – aside from a few cool side quests – the world is dead, and the basic rules of space don’t even exist. I can run around with tank top and ugg boots on Venus but I cannot blow up a star station? F off
A little less ‘Passion’ and a little more ‘work’ would make TES6 a decent game.
I am staring at Bethesda thinking…
Don’t..
Don’t you do it…
Don’t you monetize TES6..
And the moment ES6 releases you 🐑 will forgive and forget everything. They feed you slob and you eat it up like 🤤.
Shattered Space is only 6 main quests long. For $30 it is a rip off. Of course this is from a company that charged players $7 for a single quest in their cash shop.
Yet another studio suffering from TOXIC POSITIVITY. Clear indication to stop buying Bethesda products.
I tell ya, we’re splitting hairs with this gaming industry commentary and deciding MM-dollar shit. I don’t like it.
How many Stephens can you even fit into one Luke?
Those who think themselves as perfect are incapable of improvement. I think this describes current BGS to a tee.
XboxEra are fanboys, they praise everything released on Xbox. Cant take them serious.
LOL Comparing it with Far Harbour is so perfect. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I really enjoy Starfield but holy crap was that à lackluster DLC. I was expecting another full city to explore, Side quests, branching choices another companion and ship construction components.
If they were more honest they earn some respect back. But no they can’t bring themselves to admit that Starfield is a massive failure.
I love Far Harbour
I regret getting the ship. But the skill points for Lorca is what pushed me to get it early. Upgrading is going to take a while. I’m guessing they’ll add 2 and 3 chest pull with another micro transaction.
Hearing Emil talk about Starfield is like getting cornered by that smelly guy at the party as he starts to talk about Ayn Rand.
Please go home, nobody wants to hear this shit again.
Emil is lead director for TES VI, then I know I won’t be playing that title.
If you want keep making Sequels to your games And do something “new” they should split into 2 studios/groups and work on 2 projects at onces or outsource it in the way they did with F:NV. So ppl who want sequels dont have to wait 15-20 years. then the impact of a game Failing is less too.
That is the real part i can’t stand myself and why i just rarely get exited for new games anymore. sure we dont want yearly sequels we dont wanna wait Decates either.
Kind of like with Monster Hunter. they got 2 Dev Teams.. one trying to make the best there vision of a Monster Hunter game can be on consoles. (Worlds and Wilds) and the other that wants to do the same but for Portable consoles (XX/GU and Rise) as those are more popular in japan.
I dont mean that just because its a sequel to a game its going to be better but lets al be dissapointed faster and move on with our lives.
now some ppl still have hope for TES6 like maybe they can turn the studio around.
I’ve played Starfield since it came out, but the expansion was terrible, so I took up a game play of Skyrim. It’s relaxing, and I like the story in Skyrim.
The man is absolutely delusional. I am a huge Bethesda fanboy who defended their games more times than I can count, and while I know that they are not the best ever at making RPGs, I can say that their older games are miles better than Starfield. Even Fallout 76 that was like one of their weakest open world RPGs and was bugged as hell was still acceptable for me cuz I had fun exploring the map full of secrets and locations. Meanwhile with Starfield I had to force myself to play thinking that at some point I would find a planet worth exploring or something, but no, it was all empty lands with repetitive auto generated locations, and the two or three cities in the game were boring af with barely anything to do. Not to mention not a single quest I completed or NPC I met in that game were memorable whatsoever.
Its still crazy to me how they had a chance to actually make their biggest RPG ever with multiple planets, each having huge explorable maps, with more locations and sidequests than any Elder Scroll or Fallout game, and yet they fcked that up, like they didnt do sht for all those years the game was under development. And now they cant even bother to fix their mistake with the DLCs.
We need Summer Eternal.
I think this whole “procedural generation” route was a mistake for Starfield. We already saw how that panned out for No Man’s Sky and Elite Dangerous, however, Hello Games really came through with amazing content updates that kept NMS alive and kicking. For Elite Dangerous, having a 1:1 Milky Way scale might have been the greatest challenge, but still there’s some level of gratification as a space genre gaming fan for you to enjoy if you look past the grind. Bethesda should have focused on 2-3 distinct, hand-crafted solar systems with unique vegetation, alien life, alien politics, and tonnes of easter eggs for you to find, etc. This would have been so cool, kinda’ like Skyrim but in space- each faction/race having their own solar system which you can visit and engage with. Such a system would also be easy to expand into DLCs, for example, there might be an invading alien force, a common enemy for all the races what you need now to unite all the races and fight off the invasion, etc. So many possibilities for the game. Anyway, I don’t know how Bethesda can fix Starfield’s future and even if they can, to be honest. It appears to be too complex for them to even tweak a few things here and there. lol.
People really need to realize bethesda isn’t just a single team lul. Todd and his team had almost nothing to do with starfield aside from him being the face of the company and shilling it in the media. Es6 will most likely be fine
$5 and I will try it out. No more.
Emil is so smug I can’t even
The usual problem when you have devteams that hate the playerbase, rather than devteams where some devs also are players.
They never, EVER understand things, there’s no point trying to explain to them because no matter what you say they’ll never understand it anyways, hell they don’t care to even try understand.
Also, people ought to watch dustborn playthroughs, really helps show you and get you used to recognize and not as easily get misled by typical woke attempts at derailing situations to cover up their shit. (Best part is that all those woke maneuvers and thought patterns shown there were written by woke people and approved by them, explains why it hits home so much.)
Not saying to play it, the game’s garbage really, but it does show behaviors people absolutely need to get better at recognizing, and preferably disarm.
All the important people who made Bethesda great have moved on. And Bethesda is one those game companies like CPR, or Ubisoft, that are all mixed up in the hiring based on identity over skill and merit so stick a fork in em, they are done.
Poor Toddy probably realizes in his soul that the only IP he did not take over from some one, but created himself, is the one Bethesda IP that fell flat on its face with its first installment. I don’t really get his initial fervor to join the company, when he’s simply not cut out for artistic pursuits. Guy should’ve really been a marketing guy for some shampoo retailer.
Why buy games from these devs? I pirated Starfield day one, played for two hours and never touched again. If you want to buy / play it, wait 6 months. It will be on a sale and mostly PATCHED by then. Go play your backlog, sure you have it if you are watching this :).
I was really hoping it would be a game changing addition. I was also quite disappointed. Boring all around. On Xbox.
Bethesda couldn’t be more tone deaf if they tried
I feel like bethesda is also so used to getting nearly unconditional praise regardless of quality. So this mass dislike is something new to them. I think their ego is getting hit hard.
I would say it.
Bethesda becomes the Ed Wood of video game creation.
I said it.
“Our techteam are wizards” – Turd Howard
Releases a mediocre 30fps game in 2023. Bethesda(and Xbox) is a joke
To be fair, he said “In many ways, its the best game we’ve ever made.”
Not that its the best game period, and frankly i think thats true. In terms of stuff to do, and ways to play the game it objectively is the best.
As long as Emil Pagliarulo has any say in the story and lore of Bethesday games, we can keep our hope hung on the shelf. That guy cannot write his way out of a wet paperbag.
Somebody remind ole Re-Todd that the only thing they actually put work into in the last ten years was a TV show
Comparing shattered space to phantom liberty…. wow, that would be cruel!!
Bethesda haven’t made a good game in the last ~10-15 years, or am I wrong?
She like the concept of Starfield I really really do and it has so much potential, but they put too much woke bs in it And then the ship fighting is horrible. They should’ve just allowed you to upgrade weapons and that had this power system where you have to manage power back-and-forth because it’s really annoying and it makes the game fun honestly and weapons are so unrealistic and I mean that there’s so unrealistic that they’re actually annoying. They irritate the crap out of me using them. There’s barely any weapons that I would want to use to use. they’re all unethical fake weapons. Basically, couldn’t they take a few cues from mass or fallout series or siege Vegas or just take real weapons in real life or take the weapons from destiny or weapons from Star Trek or weapons from Star Wars? I mean there’s so many different style weapons they could’ve shows but instead they use these weird cartridges that shoot 30 shots with one trigger or fake generic pieces of metal that are put together. That makes absolutely no sense that you just don’t even wanna use them because it’s old speed drives you crazy because there’s so unrealistic and ethical and not functionable.
Not only that but the perks system sucks. It’s basically useless. It doesn’t do anything like it really doesn’t like all the bonuses for the backgrounds really don’t do anything at all. Level one up Your skills really is basically pointless for the most part other than the few perks that might increase your health weapon damage or allows you to unlock modules other than that they’re all useless pointless there so much potential I really think that they need to work all the perks in the game to make them have more variety and more bonuses the bonuses are held and a secondary bonus to every single skill basically
Bethesdas Starfield design and writing is like what a Disney Adult who loves Elon Musks space X would think is interesting. Except I think Bethesda even alienated that audience.
Bethesda is the Nintendo Switch of games. way out of date and barely making an effort and/or sticking to the past when the gaming scene has moved on.
I’m sure Maggie Smith would have called out that lukewarm piss he thinks is a cup of tea.
Is there anyone still left at Bethesda that actually worked on a good game?
bro why tf is there 8 ads in this video
So, just like with everything else, we need to speak with our wallets.
I bought the season pass for Starfield at launch, and still haven’t touched the expansion, just no desire to play it. Its not even just the expansion that is bad, the entirety of Starfield sucks. Its a bad game and there is just no getting around that.
And honestly what Starfield has taught me about Besthesda, is that they were never a good game developer. None of their games are good. They are shallow boring RPG gameworlds. There are a mountain of open world RPGs that are more immersive, more complex, and better in general. Obsidian dunks so hard on Bethesda with games like Fallout New Vegas, Outer Worlds, and Pillars of Eternity 2. Soon they will have Avowed out, and then Outer Worlds 2.
I’m glad you brought up CDPR’s work on CP2077 because they turned a HUGE negative into an overwhelming positive, Bethesda and honestly Microsoft/Xbox don’t seem particularly interested in fixing anything. They’ve taken the attitude of “oh we already have your money sucks for you”
all devs has gone Delulu
Shattered Space DLC is more comparable to one of the Fallout 4’s construction piece DLC’s for Settlements, sure you might entertain a small group of people that bought the game but no one is going to sing your praises like they did over Far Harbor.
I think the reason why vr games still suck without much being made and the reason why the AAA games industry is failing is because the powers that be don’t want to see how advanced and realistic videogames can become, it might reveal that we are actually in a simulated reality ancestor program.
I “spent” a whole semester writing my term paper, trust me.
The arrogance and ignorance of bethasda’s leadership is becoming legendary.
It seems weird. Didn’t Todd say in the interview with Matty that he accepts criticism? They need to hear it, right?
The only thing I found fun in starfield was the ship building. That was it. Flying them in combat was boring, walking around basically empty ships due to the lack of decorations was boring. The weapons are boring. The story feels like it was written by an AI. Every single planet was somehow more boring than No Man’s Sky’s planets.
Look, I was enthusiastic about the idea of Bethesda creating a new IP so they could be known for more than just Elder Scrolls and Fallout. But the game was just let down after let down after let down. But the fact that they just seem to ignore all valid bad criticism constantly, shows that they are yet another company that does not see it’s customers as people, only $$$. At this point, I am most likely not going to buy Elder Scrolls 6. Definitely not before watching other people play and review it.
Imo, bethesda owning the rights to the elder scrolls is the biggest tragedy of all. I could care fuck all about fallout or spacefallout, i just want the elder scrolls to be the righteous fief of actually talented developers. I have already resigned myself to the fate of accepting that even now, likely a decade + 2 weeks before release, TES6 dogshit. I pray every night God gives the elder scrolls to untainted hands.
Comparing the Shattered Space DLC to Fallout 4’s Far Harbor DLC is also a bit of a stretch. Far Harbor, that had arguably better writing, character development, and story line, also introduced new weapons, the best non power armor in the game, new settlements for the player to manage, and a new companion. Shattered Space isn’t even close to the Nuka World DLC tbh. These developers are just out of touch if they really believe this.
You are hearing from that 10k of active players after the game fell off from 330k. The fact that the game has 3% daily from the peak a year after launch and with a DLC just recently being launched is horrible. It’s NOT a good sign for ES6/FO5, especially with how they talk. They sound completely delusional and in their own world. They keep going down this road and ES6/FO5 will sell maybe 20-30k copies and be an absolute failure, because ONLY those absolute fan boys buying anything going forward.
me 300 h total, the DLC was fine!
I think it was the Yoshi.P, director for FFXIV, that said something along the line: When fans complain they still care.
When a fan no longer cares they simply stop playing and buying your games, this is what I think Bethesda failes to understand as they believe they can do no wrong and therefor need not listen. Yes there are fans complaining, yes there are fans that love Starfield. But there is also an unknown number of fans that have given up and simply no longer care, they will not buy Elder Scroll 6 or Fallout 5, or any future Bethesda game unless the studio improves and start listening, that should scare them.
Man, Concord and Dustborn out here catching strays 😂😂……..
Not an incorrect take though 😂
What these honorless devs forget is that the Customer Is King. No, i dont have to like your product, it IS you should tailor your product to appeal to us so we put our hands in our pocket and give you our hard earned money. The audacity…. half of the fault are the MTX and pre order fools. Yes, at that time it was harmless and it was ‘ok’ but we warned you that devs would get lazy and shove things in our eyes. Awsome, you got that special cosmetic wings on your back and 4 ppl turned around to look at it, but youve broken the fun for yourself and everyone else with the sequel when it came out with only mtx’s…
I wholeheartedly agree with your idea of constructive criticism. It’s meant to help developers improve upon their shortcomings.
At the same time I can somewhat understand why they hide from criticism. Often, people will devolve into nonsensical ranting , trolling, and hating rather than giving legitimate feedback because being toxic is “trendy” on the internet. A lot of grifter content creators promote that toxicity as well, making it even more difficult to encourage constructive criticism.
That’s why I love channels like these, unbiased and rational. Never change Luke! Never change…
Rhetoric is not a metric for clarity. ” *In many ways* , the best game we’ve ever made”? “Starfield isn’t worse, it’s *different* “…? Statements that are vapid and meaningless by themselves. Measure them up against the facts, and what they actually did with Starfield and the arguments just collapse. Ignore rhetoric and look at what they’re doing. It’s obvious that they’re clueless and in desperate need for a complete overhaul of how they work.
You think you’re all disappointed by Starfield and the DLC? Wait until you see how bland and uninspired ES6 and F05 will be… It’ll be so outdated and pathetic… with a very shiny coat of paint.
Dude! People love Starfield too! Freakin horrible video as always. LIES
The problem is that the investors and board of directors of just about every corporation do not care. It’s not directly in the hands of the company when the interests of the investors don’t align with the interests of the fans. It’s a problem that will never be resolved.
I’m not surprised that fans didn’t like being forced to die at the end of Starfield, they already expressed identical sentiments about another forced death in another Bethesda game after the release of Fallout 3 when it came out back in 2008, which was OVER FIFTEEN YEARS AGO. The backlash was so bad back then that Bethesda was forced to continue the main story in the “Broken Steel” DLC so that players could continue to explore the game world after they finished the main story missions.
maybe because i’m not in the fanbases you speak about but every time i watch one of your videos, no matter how critical you sound towards something, it always feels like you are genuinely upset when it’s bad and wished it wasn’t. that it never felt like you hate the games, just disappointed that they aren’t as good as they could be. but i know everyone hears and read tones differently.
Game developers and people in the film industry need to start applying their out of touch perspective of “you should like this because a lot of passion and hard work went into it” to all other mediums of art. I’m sure there are tons of paintings and songs (good ones too) that had a lot of hard work and passion put into them that got little to no attention. Passion and hard work ≠ entitlement to success.
Cool shit gets people in the building, but it’s not what keeps them there. Boring narratives are the result of writers who are more scared of offending than they are interested in provoking. The two verbs“provoke” and “offend” are often used interchangeably. They are not. A story which provokes thought is a story that is compelling and memorable. And if you’re going to provoke, you run the risk of offending. If you are not comfortable with the risk of offending, then you cannot tell a provocative story, and all that remains is a narrative too boring for me to get invested in. If you’re going to be a single player , open world, RPG where a single playthrough is meant to take many many hours, you had damn well better have something which provokes me enough to remain invested in the world you’ve built,that is, to keep me in the building. It’s not enough anymore to have cool shit. Skyrim had cool shit and that was enough to make it groundbreaking…back when it launched 1000 years ago. But today, everybody has cool shit, so the distinguishing factor between multiple piles of cool shit and YOUR pile of cool shit is how invested you can make me in coming back to it. Provoking narrative is what keeps me in the building. Which is why I keep coming back to Cyberpunk, The Witcher, Baldur’s Gate 3, Read Dead Redemption 2. So hey, Todd and friends, you have a choice, evolve or die. Give me a reason to stay in the building. You have the resources to hire great writers, which will make or break whatever you do next. I’m done with Starfield, a Cyberpunk it is not, it’s a lost cause. Take another 5 years, quit fucking around with weak writers, do some self-reflection, play some more chess, and come back and blow me away! I am, for better or worse, rooting for you guys.
Bethesda probably has the worst PR manager I’ve ever fucking seen. They really could’ve wriggled out of this backlash a bit more smoothly.
btw my $7 gun still has infinite ammo if I click fast enough. reflex sight still has the camera jumping bug. BGS makes a premium product
Starfield actually is one of the worst games ever
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I can’t wait until they release es6, it’s complete shit like all of their recent-ish games, and emil continues stroking his own ego in the shower while die-hard fans finally, finally abandon bethesda.
… it’s a very hopeful idea, but with all the hype culture around es6, a massive disappointment will be made the worse.
5:16 *[ Everyone disliked that ]*
The best game Bethesda has ever made, huh? I have 7 copies of Skyrim across multiple gaming platforms and three console generations that might have an issue with a statement as laughable as that.
I preordered this dumpsterfire for $100 and got Shattered Space as part of it. I have zero intention of playing Shattered Space, and I won’t be pre-ordering the next Bethesda game. The first time I’ve not pre-ordered a Bethesda game in 20 years.
most this game especially Bully is less buggy than bethesda games since Morrowind, I’m surprised that other devs studio can do better than bethesda even though yeah
I just hate how sanitized the game feels, where is the gore and incessant swearing from pirates and where is the deep meaningful and impactful story and connections?
Where is the running of into a random direction and stumbling upon a cool quest or set of gear that is unique and interesting and not proceduraly generated?
I think one of the most damaging things to the game aside from how sanitized it can be is the loss of immersion through a ridiculous amount of loading screens and npc’s/characters that look utterly lifeless sometimes. Lastly, why are there still so many people to this day that are so eager to bend over and be accepting of this quality of product when others have done better with less?
They managed to fit a chosen one story inside of another chosen one story. Either they aren’t listening to criticism or they are actively trolling people.
This situation is giving me serious vibes of 2022-late 2023 Creative Assembly. They seriously donked up with Total War Warhammer 3. It was supposed to be this grand finale to the trilogy and it landed with a loud plop of a huge shit pile. At first they doubled down and tried to defend their poor decisions. The fanbase revolted, and some walked away entirely, and the game very nearly died an early death. With the cancelling of their hero shooter, Hyenas, and some mass layoffs, CA looked to be in big trouble. But to CAs credit they doubled down in the opposite direction, made improvements, and now the game is better than ever.
Now CA just announced a sequel to one of the greatest and under appreciated horror survival games of all time: Alien Isolation. I really hope they keep up this positive momentum, and don’t let the greedy MBAs destroy the company.
Someone fire Emil. Please. PLEASE.
I’ve given up all hope for a good ES6. Skyrim was great, and I just have to be OK with that.
If people are buying it………………….
If they did space travel mechanics and planet landing / take off mechanics similar to elite dangerous instead of the loading screen crap it would be a million times better.
I mean we should have all foreseen this when horse armor sold like hotcakes
I gave up video games around 3 years ago. Dont miss them. All of the things i used to love about them are dead.
They did not fix Cyberpunk. Y’all on crack.
Huge fan of the game. Like the planet in general but the lack of change to the rest of the game is wild. Makes you wonder why they released the REV early??
Could be worse. I could be playing Star Citizen.
I didn’t start gaming until this year so I didn’t get experience fallout four at the time that it came out so I didn’t get experience how revolutionary it sounds like it was. Starfield was one of the first games that I played and it was amazing to me and when I went to go play fallout four because of how much everyone sounds like they loved it, I found that it sucked by comparison. The graphics are obviously much worse same for the animations. The base building in fallout sucks compared to Starfield the way that you’re able to build your starship in starfield has no comparison.
The gaming community is kind of ridiculous.
Keep praising a con artist and a currently clueless gaming company smh
Here’s the thing: I think that what people love about Elder Scrolls, about Fallout, is that they are worlds you can inhabit. A hand-crafted world that is lovely to be in. And that’s not what Starfield is. There’s no edge, no personality, nothing interesting to see. Sod off Bethesda. You’re done.
Cyberpunk’s DLC: Completly revives the game and makes it one of the best out there.
Elden Rings DLC: Makes the game even better than it already was.
Witcher 3 DLC: Best DLC ever created, perfectly fit for a master piece of a game.
Starfields DLC: even worse than the main game (which was already meh)
Sheesh, this guy just won’t stop with this. I do not know why his videos keep popping up on my feed.
Starfield ain’t the Elder Scrolls/Fall Out Series but it was a serviceable attempt at a new IP. Yes, Shattered Universe was beyond low-effort and was obviously cut content. Yes, Bethesda missed the mark at some form of redemption, by not including more outfits, armors, guns, SHIP COMPONENTS, new companions. I don’t see myself playing Starfield anymore after this blunder, but I don’t keep railing on the studio day after day, after day, after day, after day like this guy does. Sheesh, my man,… let it go. Go play something else.
It’s crazy how their whole response is EXACTLY what has plagued Bethesda games forever. They keep cattering to the worst aspect of their fanbase and are absolutely scared sh!tless to change their formula and evolve.
far harbor didnt even work it was bugged never got to see that map
Why do they act like Tesla and its incompetent CEO?
I think it’s fine if they want to create another IP. But put in the same effort. Clearly this is like a kindergarten science project and not the stellar academic projects we’ve seen in the past.
Saying Hearts of Stone has a better story than Starfield:Shattered Space is the biggest understatement of the 21st century.
I feel like there’s an infuriating answer for the question of why are they acting like this is a great game; they have shareholders. Even the most fresh and new stock broker knows don’t talk trash or ypu lose money. So many times ive heard of company’s fold because one rumor of their CEO or their product in a negative way makes the stock plummet and that’s how all CEOs and bosses in private company’s have to act or they literally lose millions. I don’t care about the gamers because we give them money no matter what(we do, it’s a fact) they want money from the shareholders so they can get millions instead of 100,000 fans and followers.
Kinda feels like your a broken record at this point, like we get it you don’t have to make the same points and comments on the game it gets a little annoying and I get that you do it to voice that your frustrated with the game because your a fan of them and they do need criticism I believe that but you make the same points over and over again so your really not doing anything that’s going to make them listen because they have already heard it
It’s pretty wild to me that I have to go all the way back to Fallout 4 before I get to the last Bethesda game that I bought, back to Skyrim to get to the last BGS game I liked, and back to Morrowind to hit the last one I loved.
Every quest at SF, feels like they used Ai to produce random quests & dialogues. Most boring quests+dialogues ever saw in my life. I really hope Todd will leave before TES 6, or it gonna be just another Starfield fiasco (which i’m pretty sure it will be anyways).
I can’t lie when andreja wasn’t a big part of her home town story line which she cried to me about possibly never getting to see again I was turned off
“It’s because I’m a fan dumbass” I love this
Someone shops for a lot of pencil dresses …
This is a hate farming channel at this point, getting ur clicks, I get it, don’t u guys ever get tired of whining, like u hate the game and Bethesda, we all know already, get over it
Anyone waiting for ES6 like there is any chance of it being good at this point is completely lost. Idk what happened, but Bethesda just fundamentally doesn’t have the sauce anymore. 🤷♂️
Too much passion and not enough love. Does anyone else feel Starfield is extremely void of heart compared to older Bethesda titles? I personally started to slightly feel and see the signs of the with Fallout 4.
Okay plagerizer
Shadow of the Erdtree, was an example of what DLC should be!!!❤
It’s amazing how an Indie studio with a smaller budget can create a game more meaningful than a triple a studio. Is is corporate greed perhaps?
are they making good money with starfield? cause if they are, then they’re not gonna change shit😂
They need to make a brand new engine for ES6 otherwise its just going to feel like the same old game people have played 100 times before. Morrowind utilized a brand new engine and the resulting game felt like nothing ever played before, it was revolutionary. The unreal engine was good in its day but now all the games just feel the same because they all have the same motor under the bonnet. But i fear Bethesda is a sinking ship and they will just churn out an Elder Scrolls cash grab to rake in as much cash as possible to cushion their inevitable crash.
It is so glaringly obvious that these people sit in a marble tower together and pat each other on the back congratulating themselves. I think they believe to their core that they are better than everyone else and that’s why they have no capacity to change or listen to critique.
Anyone who says the expansion is great has either drinking too much of the Kool-Aid, or is severely gaslighting us.
Too much Passion, is the reason the game was ruined…. a lot of the important pages, were stuck together 😂😂😂😂
The whole team including tod Howard need to be removed completely from Bethesda.
Stop touching your mic
Developers want us, the consumer, to “enjoy the journey” they went on to deliver the product to us.
They seem to be completely unaware that consumers do not give a shit what you had to go through if the product you deliver is “mid” at best
Deliver us Elden Ring, then you can tell us how tough the development cycle was
The difference between Bethesda and CDPR is that the latter is not an American company.
And technical marvel ?!…..
Im just curious if Bethesda is playing other games.
How can they not see bow far behind they are.
Indie devs: please make moddable FPS RPGs to compete with Bethesda and CDPR. Because god knows they need it. And the genre is still frustratingly rare. :/
Going the way of Ubisoft. Microsoft bought another turd.
Eventually Microsoft will parcel these out to other studios.
When he was comparing the dlc to Far Harbor he must have been referring to the simulation puzzle mission 😂
BGS is run by ants convince me im wrong.
On a real note, i feel you dawg. I shit on BGS a lot, and it breaks my heart every time cuz i want them to get out of that slump. Once again create more experiences like the ones that made my childhood.
To play a bethesda game was to have an unforgettable adventure filled with good rpg mechanics to define who you are, and experience well written quests, characters, and lore.
Shit make me sad mang, these be sad boy hours me hearties 😢
there seems 2 be more bugs Since the last dlc
then a crackhouse in Crenshaw in the early 80s
A change of engine does not magically fill the world with interesting quests or beautiful locations.
Keep in mind that the people who like StarField now, would like it even more (or notice no difference) if it was a better Game.
People are just very defensive, very positive, very delusional, anti-change, and even anti-Options.
Call them NPCs, Consumers, or the Phrase Asmon likes to use ^^
Emil has been in Bethesda for decades and not once has he ever written anything halfway DECENT. Mr Paper Airplanes needs to get booted, because he’s only where he is not from skill, but nepotism alone. I’ve been saying this for many years, and been called “new Vegas fanboy” and “obsididrone” because of it.
WHOS LAUGHING NOW???
I preordered this game because I love Bethesda, I have 25 days in Skyrim and Fallout 4, and I’ve played Oblivion since I was 8. I had high hopes for this game, and I do have a couple days in it, but it is incredibly underwhelming. The story is bland, there isn’t really a faction war to make up for it, the companions all suck.
The one thing I thought could make up for all that was settlement building, but aside from a few minor improvements like the zoomed out build mode, everything about it is a downgrade from fallout 4. I want to build cities with houses, parks, skyscrapers, shops, and so on.
Another downgrade is the crafting system. I’m not sure why, but it just doesn’t feel as good as fallout 4. A big issue for me is that nothing is categorized.
They also should have made the temples disappear and randomly generate after you collect the power so you don’t have to do new game+ to level them up.
Everything is too procedural. The procgen stuff would have been fine if they had more hand made stuff. This game has literally 3 cities. I feel like every system with a habitable planet should have at least one city, maybe not as big as New Atlants, but at least like Akila CIty. The home planets for both factions should have each had multiple cities, with NA and Akila City being the largest. Like wouldn’t it make sense for humanity to have more than 3 cities??
I feel like 1 person could make a New Atlantis sized city in a single month. They could have easily had 10+ cities but they clearly did something wrong.
Sarfield’s biggest enemy: Cyberpunk 2077’s Phatom Liberty
*Looks up* yep, back to Elden Ring. It’s wild to me that From Software tried open world and did objectively better than everyone else in the room. Lol
Don’t know if this is the case, but BGS is giving me Rocksteady Suicide Squad vibes, where all the real talent that made good BGS games has left and the remaining employees are riding on the coattails of the brand.
NO ALIENS in a space game where you travel the universe is crazy. They have other life and creatures but no Aliens that speak another language and no war with them or power struggle is crazy
Compare this to Shadow of the Erdtree and it should be $1.89
Bethesda have become an interesting case study on the damaging effects of toxic positivity within a corporate environment.
I love Starfield with the new difficulty settings. I really enjoy the variety of gameplays to go down. I haven’t got to end game yet but I love the process of collecting loot, leveling up skills, and keeping my character healthy and with enough resources, etc. it’s fun to have to think about so many things at once. I haven’t many ideas for improvement. But since the game has so much to do already, I’m too busy to be at that point. And I think they’ll have content for me at that time. I agree with the fact that starfield is its own thing. I don’t really like fallout as much so idk.
I actually like starfield, and haven’t played the dlc yet. But i can say i was really dis heartened when you get space magic. I was totally stoaked just to be a space explorer/starship designer. I also get why people dont like/hate the game.
Everyone complaining about Starfield is trying to save Elder Scrolls 6. Anyone who tells people to stop complaining is ruining everything for everyone.
Emil paglirulo is going to drive Bethesda under. The guy is so obviously not interested in doing his job.
as a shill…sorry a “fan” lol, its all your fault, you sponsored it for decades, encourage this behavior… so you deserve it, now you know what corporation actually thinks about you, have fun with this knowledge and remember to preorder TES6 andor F5.
32.5 hours, is how long i played starfeild. with menu time, i quit the moment that i finished the main story. i think the only reason i even finished it was so i didnt feel so ripped off
It feels like shattered space was initially intended to be included in the base game & was cut as they rushed to polish the game for initial launch.
0:04 Luke said THANK GOD! like he doesn’t have to go back and re do that one Gen Ed class that’s needed for that one extra credit in college man gaming is weird 😂😂😂
Todd Howard has buried his head in the sand and refuses to pull it out. Sucks but Es6 is gonna blow.
Bethesda seems to pushed away you matty and juicehead. Once their biggest outlets to social media. That’s impressive.
Nuka World was better than Shattered Space
Blood and Wine was basically another game as a DLC
I’ve like 150+ hours in starfield (Doing new game plus 10 like a fool) I played 2 hours of shattered space and I’ll never go back to the game it’s terrible
My boyfriend has been a hard-core Bethesda fan all his life. He was in love with Skyrim and is in love with fallout. Even when starfeild came out, he was hopeful and excited. When it came out, he was just horrified. He also loved modding Skyrim, but they have made the modding landscape an actual real life hell scape. He’s crushed to see what Bethesda has become, and I feel so horrible for him. I came into the Fandom late, but I’ve been a fan for about 8 years of fall out, and Skyrim and seeing what the company is now is a horror show.
what camera do you use?
I hope Bethesda learns from this, but looking at what is happening I have my doubts and I don’t think that Elder Scrolls 6 will even deliver on low expectations.
Bethesda has decided that Starfield is going to be a big focus for them. They want to support the IP. Not necessarily the game itself, but they just want the idea of Starfield to be big. So while I’m not a fan of this game, I think it serves as a good base to build off of. Maybe the next game will have far fewer loading screens, seamless surface to space traversal, and more crafted content instead of relying so much on procedural generation to pad out content.
i feel bad for Emil. guy just seems to be a genuine dude who makes mistakes who gets the blame for an entire studio’s failures. i dont think the problem at bethesda is on any specific person, its a company wide issue imo
Come on everyone, bethesda already got paid by microsoft remember? Why do you think they’ll be hungry to make a good game again when they have their bellies full. Remember Morrowind was bethesdas last attempt at making something amazing.
It’s the hardest thing Bethesda ever did because they did it on an engine that’s fifteen years past its prime, had every bug that the last three Elder Scrolls games did, and they continue to think they don’t need a new engine. Just switch to UE already like everyone else.
I’ll say this until it happens, because it will: Bethesda will be the next Ubisoft. No humilty to learn from their fuck ups, so they’ll just keep doing it until people finally have enough of it. It’s finally happening to Ubi, it’s gonna happen to them as well, especially if they botch TES6.
I expected the end to be “time to find something new LIKE… RAID SHADOW LEGENDS”
I forgot KCD2 was coming out. that’s the most exciting news for me!
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They were. 15 years ago. That BGS doesn’t exist anymore. Those people are long gone.
The Bethesda dude sounds like a robot – talk about brainwashed and delusional company guy … And the sheer arrogance of them its unreal
Installed Starfield again to try the StarWars Genesis modlist.
I guess the modders did it again even tho some big flaws of the engine and layout just cannot be overcome…
I started a new game to play the expansion and got bored. I have not touched the expansion I wasted money on. I am thinking about how I could easily spent that on a better game. No Man’s Sky cost me the same on sale.
I want those shape shifters who wear the skin of all our favorite studios to move on to other industries.
Fans do want to “live” in the worlds but not how he thinks Luke is right we want to create new characters make different choices side with new factions thats why New Vegas is 15 years later still considered an all time great.
They made shivering isles, one of the best dlc ever imo
Brutal
I really wanted Starfield to be a return to form for Bethesda, i love Fallout etc but man it was so dissapointing.
Its odd…Bethesda thinks if they keep telling everyone its the best game ever people will believe it…..very odd
Metaphor sold very well, Silent Hill 2 is good, Space Marine 2 is loved. Wukong did very well.
Assassins Creed has been pushed back and concord cancelled, Bethesda are producing awful dlc. EA are taking shit for the AI…
It’s like the gaming industry is slowly fixing itself.
BG3 ise also not everyones cup and tea yet they are by far the best game ever made…..despite that. Starfield is a lazy money grab with narcisist executive team that just spits out lie after lie
These AAA Dumpster Fire Companies that took DEI Grant money and are Contractually Obligated to make their games woke are easy to spot, and they are also Done, because they cannot back out now, looks like BGS is one of them, the Parent Company will just close them all.
They are Bleeding Dry and they know it.
Its funny….what BETHESDA wants is not what they got so they keep telling themselves a lie (reminds me of the guy running for the GOP US President). This is what a narcisst company looks like….lies lies and more lies
I paid the 100 bucks to get the dlc when it was released, I don’t have Stanfield on my console anymore and I haven’t bothered to download again to even try shattered space, Bethesda lost something after skyrim. I hope they find it again. I’m to old nowadays to be hyped for elder scrolls 6, so now it’s just something for when I go to the nursing home 😢
No one wanted this game.
I know a big percentage of people only associate negative feelings towards Bethesda and what they’ve turned Fallout into. There is a large group that only play 1, 2, and new Vegas and they tolerate 3. One of the most popular videos about the fallout series is Hbomberguy’s video on Fallout 3, and I believe a big part of the community echos that sentiment towards the Bethesda titles.
thanks for making a Bethesda review video in 2024. Now I no to tell youtube not to recommend you. Because I don’t watch Bethesda shills in 2024. How do you not know their games suck right now? Bye, nerd
“..and next year we’ll try their next expansion”
dude, this is exactly the problem. YOU are the problem. Your words and this whole video means nothing because you will continue to support their laziness they have no reason to change
I feel like everyone is looking at old BGS games with rose tinted glasses. I remember Far Harbor being pretty mid. I remember all of Fallout 4 being pretty mid. I remember the main campaign of Skyrim being pretty mid. I remember Morrowind being pretty mid. I did enjoy exploring and doing like the third-tier side quests in Skyrim. But when Starfield came out and it was pretty mid, I definitely wasn’t surprised. Certainly not mad
Elder Scrolls 6 is gonna is the last straw for Bethesda. They mess that up and its over, there will be no comeback. They are out of options.
I am not even going to make excuses for BGS. Starfield is absolutely criminaly bad. And this DLC is the final nail in the coffin. From the unstable PC Port on XBGP, to a mediocre game, even to the paid mods and bland short dlc. We need to stop giving Bethesda excuses. Why is it now when BGS makes a game they cannot even barely fix it after Fallout 76 yet Arkane Austin before they shut down was capble of making Redfall a better game than it was on launch. Like I enjoy Fallout 76 and ESO in their current state. But thats because they learned from their mistakes. With Starfield it feels like they’re a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sane not listening to the fans and living in their own delusional world.
they need to let their old engine die, its time for unreal 5
They need to fire anyone who was creatively involved with Starfield. Because it lacks any and all creativity.
I mean this is the guy that worked on fallout 3, the shittiest fallout game after 76.
console* not consoles
Farharbor has a better design and story then the entirety of shitfield….. sorry starfield. I knew this game was going to be bad before it released
…did you just say “hoop-dee doo-dee” ??
Bethesda is dead, move on people.
Fire Todd Howard……then their games will get better
76 is way more fun and enjoyable than Starfield
i think this is what one would call “toxic positivity”
Feels like a lot of tech companies have this attitude that “no, we know what you like better than you do.”
The clown actually took away from fallout 3 that people wanted to infinitely play the same character on low quality randomly generated quests.
rather then the completely well known understanding of every person who has ever played fallout 3, that the ending was fucking terrible, and you literally wrote yourself into a corner, there was like 3 ways IN GAME that you could have implemented, but rather then do that you give the super mutant companion some bullshit nonsense reason to let you walk into the rad room and die. people hated fallout 3s ending because it was SHIT WRITING. holy fuck this grinds my gears
They need to hire writers.. to me the biggest issue is the writing.. level designer can maybe write a good story when you inherit the lore of Fallout and TES(written by people in the 90’ies)
But not for a new IP.. you need people who know story structure and world building.
Just unabashed pure delusion. the future for elder scrolls 6 looking pleak
The food critic from Ratatouille: ‘I don’t like Bethesda Games, I love Bethesda games.’
Starfield was a dumb idea, it was done poorly, and it’s a boring waste of time. Game companies are so out of touch and greedy.
Fall harbor is just as bad as star-fields new dlc. The only game that peaked was skyrim after that their games just started to suck.
People are WAY overly-hard on this game. It’s heavily flawed, but people act like it’s an Anthem or Concord level disaster when it’s not. It’s a decent game, even if it doesn’t live up to Bethesda’s past games.
That said… calling it their best game in any way is odd. Like maybe the faces look better than Skyrim? But in every other way, it’s a downgrade.
If it effects their stocks enough, they would do something. Stop supporting them with your money is all you can do against the corporations.
Tbh i didn’t even like far harbor I havnt enjoyed fallout 4 I think that’s were Bethesda went downhill fallout 4 was boring
inb4 they still don’t understand that starfield is a terrible bethesda game, missing every single thing they do well, replaced with things they are terrible at developing
Starfield is the game Bethesda EVER made not even kidding
The fact that Emil and Todd still have a job is an absolute afront to sane business practices.
Im so tired of Bethesda’s “everything is fine” corporate speak.
Ignoring a massive amount of criticism,saying we dumb.Has that ever worked out well?
Does luke know games other than Stanfield exist?
I’ve played way too much Starfield (over 300 hours) because I wanted to get my own view of the game, and I agree with the criticisms. It’s a pretty meh game with meh dialogue, meh storylines, meh side quests, and meh characters. I certainly don’t think about the game when I don’t play it nor do I get excited when I play it. I agree with the critical responses of the game and Bethesda in general. They don’t care about making a good game because they are getting money from it. I’m not hyped about ESVI at this point because I have a feeling it’s going to be similar to the meh in Starfield.
I hope they don’t act surprised when i don’t buy ES6
No comment, good show. thanks
Bethesda’s latest direction reminds me of the Monty Python Parrot skit. Bethesda is trying to sell us a feature-complete game, but we see exactly what we’re getting. And I’m a fan of Starfield too, and it pains me to see the direction they went.
Well to even release another game they have to ditch their crap engine…they wont and next ES will be 15 years too late and using broken engine Skyrim modded gameplay will be their downfall if this boring excuse for a game wasnt…good luck BSG you are irrelevant now and re-releasing Skyrim for a 20th time wont please anyone🎉
starfield is one of the *WORST* space games.
i feel more immersed in Stellaris with just text pop ups.
100% agree with and feel the same way with the not a hater just a frustrated fan that wants them to do better statement
Bethesda and toxic positivity, name a more iconic duo.
They should have bought a different IP and revamped it like they are “good” at
Only one game company that shells out amazing updates and listens to gamer feedback and actually care for improving their game and that is No Man’s Sky Hello Games ❤️ a paragon of what a game company should be like
Microsoft is only helping Bethesda shoot itself.
I just want to ad that hearts of stone and blood and wine (which is the better DLC imo) are just as expensive combined than shattered space.
Critical thinking nowadays is looked down upon, the “edgy” thing to do is to dunk on people who says something mildly critical of their favorite company or game. Dystopian.
Bethesda has been a disappointment since Oblivion launched. Why would you expect anything more?
I bet there will be a Starfield MMO, like ESO and Fallout 76. Lmao
Bethesda and other triple a devs have proved to be the definition of incompetent
ESO: Blades/76 was the beginning of the end, imo.
Elder scrolls, fall out and now star field are essentially the same game with different settings.
No one wants to hear this.
I personally loved star field till i played the main quest and got magical abilities. But i love space games. And after 80 hrs or so on the game bugs hit. After so many patches and 200 plus hrs in i could not finish the main quest. I loved the game but the bugs killed it for me.
According to Bethesda the only fix was to quit and restart.
Unlike you tubers and twitch streamers, i do not have all day to play a game. That is a crushing about of lost time in a game.
Now i enjoy exploring and doing side quests. I am not so much about the main story.
I had similar experiences in Skyrim, never finished and restarted multiple times mostly due to work requiring me to put the game down for significant amounts of time and not knowing where to pick up and go. I would pick it up with a relaunch on new platform or new graphics. It gets old doing the same quest over. The graphics made it nice but trudge to get back to same levels and places you were before you stopped.
Having finished other games for fun not as a job. I find the writing for the main stories to be lacking depth and substance. It is the same in most movies and TV shows. You get the occasional show or movie that really stands out due to the story. But we used to have much better story tellers.
In the gaming industry we used to have great stories but terrible graphics. Now we have great immersive graphics but no great story lines. A main story line was meant to take 80hrs but based on your review it takes 8hrs. And then you get more hrs of side quest and exploration.
Bethesda should look at the uncharted behind the scenes videos. They mapped and fleshed out the story. Then made story boards. Like a Hollywood movie. They really fleshed out the story and characters which makes it a great game.
Bethesda needs to bring on great writers to help develop main story lines and push the quest lines out more.
I realize the challenge is all the branching choices.
I liken it to looking at a map of the game like being in the TVA in LoKi tv show.
But all these software companies are afraid of feed back from customers and critics.
They need to ask the question like navy seals do.
What did we do right?
What did we do wrong?
How can we get or make it better?
Can we fix the complaints?
And with mods: which mods do people love and why? Can we implement mods like that globally to make the game a better experience for everyone?
And i think at this point, Bethesda has their. 3 main franchises and it’s putting out expansions with complete stories again 80hrs of game play, unless you majorly need to rework an entire game engine.
Fall out and star field. Will mostly be nee locations and areas.
Elder scrolls has the challenge of areas and times or ages.
I hope they can take the criticism and make games better. Because like you i am a fan.
Zzzzzz another Bethesda boring nonsense. I’m playing road 96. Pretty awesome surprise for me, I enjoy it a lot.
If you play a game and don’t like it, don’t spend any money on the next game like it from that publisher. The resulting damage to the publisher’s bottom line will force them to listen to the complaints and respond accordingly. Make your point by spending your time and money on the games from publishers putting out good games. Just complaining can only do so much.
The thing that made Bethesda stand out was that at the time, their games did stuff genuinely different than games of that time.
Want an rpg u can be anybody you want? Oblivion
Wanna do it again but with dragons? Wanna mod a flying airship and go dragon hunting with your crew of sky pirates? Skyrim.
Now its like…wanna fly a spaceship but you navigate via menus instead of actually flying there….
Its still enjoyable with mods but it isn’t pushing boundaries like it once did, which is why a lot of love has been lost.
It was bound to happen eventually. An old engine can only do so much. Still though to their credit, at least they allow modders to throw their all into it.
Hopefully more developers continue to allow modding to the extent their games do.
Current Bethesda cannot create anything new that’s good. Everything they’ve made were made by people no longer there or someone else, see Fallout. They’re not good at creating new things, just building off other works.
Bethesda is causing a disservice to themselves and their customers
I’m not angry, just disappointed. Again. Like a parent watching a child relapse.
Emil and Todd ego combine could beat a black hole lol.
this is genuinely one of the worst games I have ever played. 30 hours of my life ill never get back
If you refer to yourself as a ‘hardcore gamer’ you’re absolutely out of touch, especially in that position…..
Yeah tes6 is cooked
Elder scrolls 6 is gonna be bad 🙁
Shadow of the Erdtree DLC requires more time to beat than Starfield and its DLC combined..
Guess I’m in the minority but I loved it. Expansion and all. Have game pass so game was free which was nice. Yeah of course it could be better but so could every game ever made. Yall could get the ocean and you’d complain about the waves
i mean comparing cdred to bethesda is kinda crazy. a game as big as cyberpunk even with its bugs that I never got it was still more fun than the last like 3 bethesda games
The rallying cry or copium of the 2020s: “What we did is great and if you don’t like it, you’re the problem!”
Honest Hearts, Lonesome Road, Dead Money, Old World Blues, Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Broken Steel, The Pitt, Far Harbor and Point Lookout are the first that come to mind just from Bethesda. CDPR has taken expansions to a new level with Witcher 3 and 2077.
BGS made a game that they are now claiming “might not be everyone’s cup of tea”. It cost several millions of dollars. Its financially incompetent to pour massive millions into a product that doesn’t appeal to a lot of people. Its why you invest into it to make more money and reach more people. If the execs are defending this bad game this much then you know it was mostly their poor decisions that is the result of this product. There should be a move to change leadership , with the lack of accountability and blaming fans for not liking your bad game.
The way they talk about the negative responses reveals alot about the “psychological state” if you will of Bethesda. They expect to release a GOTY no questions asked. Maybe they are not fully aware of how much in a goldy locks condition BGS was in, especially in the 2008 to 2011 area, where they made Fallout 3 and Skyrim, two strokes of brilliance that introduced me to Fallout, Fantasy RPGs and Open World games all at the same time. The “mixture” of elements, so to speak, within BGS was perfect. Everybody did a brilliant job (just think of the radio stations of Fallout 3..genious), it all worked out. Now, that thats not the case.. they still “think” its teh case. Which is worrysome. Bruce Nesmith former Lead Designer of Skyrim gave a few great interviews. He said nowadays Todd Howard is doing somewhat between 1 and 2 dozen(!) other small and large projects on the side. I am not talking about Todds time management or anything, i am sure he works a lot and he works hard.. but working on ONE game is a lot a and is hard.. so maybe this whole side buisness really didnt work out that way. Thats just my thoughts about it of course. But it kind of shows.. Starfield is the most unfocused, unfinished BGS games of them all. And i played and lved them all. But this one i just played. It just did not make sense to me how Starfield came to be after the focus and design that went into Fallout 3 and Skyrim.
People don’t love Fallout or TES, they love Fallout 3 and Skyrim, and the even dumber ones Fallout 4
The only true achievement of this game in the end was delaying TES 6 even further
The writing in the base game and dlc is probably some of the worst writing and dialogue I have experienced from any game I have ever played.
I do not believe emil cares about anything but money, saying he cares about the quality of the stories or the fans happiness is COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL
That space marine statue in the back is so clean 👌
I think its a healthy thing that they are trying to make another IP.
However, they say dont put all your eggs in a basket, so both good and bad for that.
They should have made Starfield as a small test or a pet project for a smaller team, experiment.
Smaller budget and smaller risk, then if it did well then on Starfield 2 they could ramp up the budget and invest more in it.
Really odd reaction at 5:40, Luke has said multiple times in countless starfield videos he’s made that Starfield was in his opinion the best game Bethesda has made, now he’s totally gonna pretend like he never said that so he can create this video reacting to Emils comments. I find the constant flip flopping of his opinions surrounding this game just totally disingenuous and cynical at this point, just another youtuber cashing in on generating negativity.
Expansion? No lol. Shattered space is just what they cut from the base game to make the initial launch window. They should have delayed it so it would have felt like a more complete game, and then released something else more substantial as an expansion.
BGS should be used to define “Baldur’s Gate Series” instead of Bugthesda Garbage Shitshows. Times change and that abbreviation deserves better, and to infuriate the Bugthesda.
Aww the Starfield YouTube trolls. It was lackluster? You do realize Skyrim was pretty much the same? Skyrim was nothing but boring fetch quests etc.
I’m convinced that Bethesda is severely understaffed or everything has to go through a myriad of hurdles to add content.
I just cant finish the dlc, I dont even know how i finished the main game. The companions are just … empty. They are annoying, sillly, all goody goody. so so so so annoying. Not a single fun line on their dialogs. Everything u do is repetitive and boring, the companions willl get angry at u no matter what. The whole thing sucks. They sell a game about space exploration and its just a teleport simulator.
I mean you guys keep complaining and you keep buying. They’re being talked about and making money what’s negative for them?
They need a writer more than anything. Bethesda hasn’t written a fun quest in a long time. Starfield feels like an AI wrote it. The lack of any and all cohesion in storytelling has plagued Bethesda since FO4 and it’s getting worse and worse. At least FO4 had Far Harbor, which was a fun DLC in terms of writing and content, but Starfield has NOTHING.
I mean I did enjoy my 30 hours in starfield I really like the concepts not so much the execution I think it has so much potential but shattered space is not what the game needs
I love Starfield. I had a great time playing it & will probably pick it up again in the future. However, it is no where near what they claim. “We managed to stick it in an Xbox” – sir, have you met No Man’s Sky?
People don’t love Bethesda fallout. They love old school fallout and how Bethesda utilized many of the old ideas, lore and forgotten ideas from the old games for their newer fallout titles.
The more original Bethesda gets with their ideas in fallout the worse they get on almost every level. Now that the actual meat of the writing team has left this bland world we’ve seen in Starfield is going to be the new norm you the consumer just get to decide what flavor of accessories you get to use during your procedurally generated misadventure.
Emil shouldn’t be allowed to work at Bethesda anymore. His stupidity knows no bounds when it comes to writing and keeping proper design documents. He doesn’t even do the latter apparently.
And Todd needs to be given a reality check regarding his ego.
At this point their are throwing, like imagine you have such a passionate playerbase wich tells you in many many videos and articles what is wrong about any particular game they made and they just dont listen, dont care and live on in delusion. They dont even know what their strengths are/were and what was good about their past games.
This guy is totally out of touch
Your decontextualization of the response is great. I’ll do it too
Luke calls the people who support him ‘dumbasses’ for questioning the content he makes. Under the guise of “passion for BGS” Luke insults the fans who made his career because he despises the fact that people enjoy something he doesnt.
I bought Starfield to start pre-modding for Elder Scrolls 6, because it is going to be a big mod. By the time the CK for Starfield dropped, I’ve lost my enthusiasm. The only reason I have 200+ hours in Starfield is that I am a sucker for ship building, even if it is fairly limited as a ship builder. I probably should just get Space Engineers or something.
IDK what you expected, no main quest of any Bethesda game is longer than 4-5 hours.
“In some ways”
I definitely dont think its the best but it definitely got me back into for a good time! I thought it was cool. Definitely did expect way more especially after a year. I do like starfield as a game & I do hope more comes after this. I still have my little hope on it. This game CAN be amazing
None of any of this matters when you drones buy whatever slop they put out
All you do is tell them you want more slop when you do that QUIT EMBARRASSING ACTUAL GAMERS WITH THAT LAME FOMO CASUAL CRAP ( not saying that to anyone but who it applies to, not this creator, maybe if someone shames you casual dimwits enough maybe youll get it , YOU HAVE ALREADY RUINED EVERY FRINGE “HOBBY” YOU ALL HAVE TOUCHED BY LETTING ANY CORPO DOG WATER COMPANY INTO THE “HOBBY” )
This is why i agree with Arch warhammer and his view about the Carrot and the Stick. We give the carrot to this mega corporation for years. We are the ones that let them brag about billion doller success or most played games for months yet we get ignored. Worst they screw up what we love for the modern audience. Well all that left is the stick. The stick we must use, and use often until either they submit or break. Because either way we wouldn’t get what we want. If they close no more ES or FO but unless they submit the ES and FO will just be crap which is just as bad.
I have about 150 hours in the game and the only reason is because i didnt want to feel like i wasted $70… but it still feels like i did.
I have over 30 days played and still think this game was a flop COMPARED to the other Bethesda titles like this. I love the game but even as a “player” I disagree with Emil’s sentiment on the game.
The videos made for criticism of Starfield is more interesting than the game itself 😂😂😂
Imagine todd and emil worked together to finish game of throne and then they got an offer to create new star wars game.
The Toxic positivity is killing game industry from inside we see what happened with Concord and ubisoft
Bethesda tried to create a new IP without an actual writer or an actual artistic vision. Just “space game”.
Every time they do an update the game gets worse, I was level 127 and then the game froze and I had to start over
Starfield is a game I play when I need a break from other games.
Starborn dlc is gonna come out in 2 years or maybe even 3 at the rate they are going 😂
Dear sensitive people: criticism is love.
What up with those Temu ads 🎽👀 !?
I can’t wait for an indie dev team to pop up and make classic Bethesda style games cause Bethesda themselves stopped satisfying their playerbase….
Oh wait…
Enderal.
Fallout London.
Various other total conversions in the works, some planned to release in the next year or two.
It’s already happening.
I’m waiting for the kcd2 news
Starfield still has a couple game breaking bugs like your quest giver spawning outside the space station or not moving at all when you have to follow them to advance the mission.
its funny I have 1k hours in the game and its all in the ship builder haha
“best game we’ve ever made”
es6 is done.
When i first started the dlc i didnt even know i started the dlc i literally thought it was just a quest i never did in the base game of starfield until i looked it up and went uh this is the dlc wow this garbage. 😂
Honestly the only thing Bethesda could do to earn back my trust and more importantly my money. Would be to remaster Morrowind. Wide screen, upscale graphics and draw distance. And they need to do it right, no jamming voice acting into it, or making it a buggy mess.
Lol im really glad i didnt buy it
This is the fallacy of companies hyperfocusing on “data” and “consulting” rather than customer feedback
Im a fan of Bethesda game. That game being morrowind
Bethesda just delivers the base game, so modders fix and transform in a real game.
14:49 Don’t need to roll back FO4. BC I Never installed it. I saw the writing on the wall and don’t listen to Todd’s BS hype anymore.
I still look forward to playing Starfield but I’m more concerned about the next Elder Scrolls
I’m a new dad, I have very little time to play games. So I got about 2 hours into shattered space and I think a bad line of dialogue followed by a game crash just made me uninstall it and go back to my legendary run of mass effect. And ya know what it made me realize? Mass effect 1 is better at being starfield than starfield is.
Constructive feedback: To enhance your credibility and be taken more seriously, consider diversifying your content beyond solely hating on things.
wow that really reads like garbage, how anyone thinks starfield is the best is crazy. And he mentions the scope like it’s a good thing, bruh most of the worlds are baren wastelands. We need games to be smaller and dense over big and empty. There aren’t even any alien races you can interact with, in a bloody space game!
There’s really no way for Bethesda to come out of this as a winner. They either have to stand by their terrible decisions and “vision” for the game. Or they have to change the game almost entirely which would signal that they never had a strong vision for the game to begin with.
I got introduced to Bethesda games playing fallout 3 on Xbox. I prefer sci-fi themed games but was willing to try other Bethesda games like Oblivion etc because of how much I enjoyed fallout 3.. Never liked them. I stuck to the fallout games and enjoyed them. So I was so excited when they came out with starfield. I was expecting stories and exploration reminiscent from fallout 3 and 4. So I started playing starfield when it came out. While there were parts of the game I enjoyed much of it I did not. The worst disappointment for me was the exploration. When I started to realize that anything I saw in the distance was just a copy of something I had seen dozens of times before I stopped exploring. Once I stopped exploring I thought why should I keep playing and so I stopped. And I haven’t gone back to the game since late last year. I do hope they’re able to make changes to the game.
There’s a lot of negativity in gaming rn so are we going to talk about the triumph of Sparking Zero?
What did people not like about the DLC
Invincible after he played the DLC:
“I… I thought you were longer”
They Responded: “Waaahhh, nuh uh.”
game could have been amazing but no so so sad
The only criticism they’re going to listen to is the money. Take away the money and they’ll care. They’ll care A LOT
BGS is trying to be the next Ubisoft. They’ll pump out some paid mods and then ultimately drop support for Starfield before finalizing the Starborn DLC that is supposed to launch in 2025.
I bought star field deluxe , but if this is the state of this Poo DLc , can I have a refund on steam 😮
i think the best way to teach them a lesson is to ignore them, pretend they don’t exist, then they’ll try to come up with something worthful, because negative PR is still a PR
Come on, i can’t be the only one who thinks the problems at bethesda started way before. FO4 was already a disappointment. Hell, even Skyrim was underwhelming. I don’t know how those games got as big as they are. Sure, mods helped a lot, but it can’t be just that.
Not to take away from the point of this expansion being bad, but where I live 40% is a passing grade. It’s not a GOOD grade, but it’s a pass.
I don’t play Starfeild not my cup of tea I had to research….but this game isn’t good overall …DLC or not it’s sucks …. Mass Effect Andromeda in it’s buggy state seems better
Hope someone reads this: I am a fan! I have just subscribed, even though I’ve seen you through AsmonG, who I’ve also watched recently. *deep breath*
I love starfield, For what it Could Be. (And perhaps will be in the future…..)
I live close to Bethesda. I have met someone for Zenimax for ESO, which I loved until about 2021. I had to stuff down my fandom so that I would not scare off a customer, whom I Respect. Long term, enthusiastic, lover of their games. I have thoroughly explained Fallout4 for my GF so that we could watch the TV show, Because I thought shed appreciate the story and vision of the Game Studio (which is after doing the same for Halo and the show which she freakin loved). I for one did not like the Fallout Show which was sad because I replayed the game and all factions and loved them.
I play Castles (Elder Scrolls version of Shelter) on my phone now, which is just a nice time killer…. But, STARFIELD??
Aaah Starfield. It is really, just a timely version of their prior games Weakest Points. I believe we want a feeling that wont happen again until Ai is implemented into gaming for possible upscaling, and randomization algorithms that track with the player (Maybe by basing it off their achievements so it gets detail on what you push to completion on).
Starfield as a possible, fanmade movie of the highlights, would be Pretty Nice to watch. Keyshots and the story parts done in a cinematic way. I would rather enjoy/endure 45min to 1hr of that than continue playing Starfield for more than 30min at a time.
Bethesda is creative, but thats their downfall for some reason. They leave too much up to player imagination. If you have imagination, you can find “something” to enjoy in Starfield. But The way they talk about our reviews on the game, has become disrespectful. They do have a shot with Starfield, but not now in 2024, and probably not until 2026 at best. Very simple things have been cleaned up with mods. Something as simple as closing your ship ramp, or better immersion by hiding your suit smarter is all achieved by mods. They basically want the bulk of the playability of the game to be made BY THE FANS. And those are the FANS that they respect opinion on.
This has led me to the path of learning how to model on my own pc, and learn to create games, so that I genuinely understand what it takes to build them. What i’ve learned is, they are basically in a money milking long term scheme (if you will) that guarantees money. Games used to be involved in risk and innovation.
But ladies and Gentleman, we have possibly achieved the best we can with games.
Accountability is in short supply these days
59 is a failing grade? In the UK that’s 1% off a B😂
Starfield had so much potential that it’s really painful reading about how proud they are with how good it turned out.
EMIL PAGLIARULO is what destroys Bethesda right now!!! FIRE HIM!
Whenever I say starfield is a really bad game xbox fans start calling me PlayStation fanboy. Meanwhile I never even owned a console in my life.
I feel like companies like Bethesda and Ubisoft have just been leaning on people who buy the games out of habit. Like, instead of playing the game because you like it on its own, you’re playing it because you like the franchise it came from. Which makes them lazy.
i only played starfield for 150 hours because of me wanting to hope there was something special after the new game+ 10x shat i got to like 8 until i quit every restart was the same for me no special people changed or so
I dont want to live in a bethesda world. I want that world to feel lived in.
Palworld brought more to gaming than starfield. LMAO @ everyone who said this would be the “RPG of the decade”!
I’m starting to think Bethesda got luck with Skyrim.
I understand it sucks making something and then tons of people telling you it sucks. But in a world where dozens of other games and expansions (even those made by BGS back in the day) are leagues ahead of what they made here.
Starfield made me wonder if I ever really liked Bethesda games in the first place
22:30 – 23:30 that’s why you’re one of the better youtubers/gamers. many gamers dont have a notion of economy.
I like starfield. I like shattered space. However, I’d only give starfield a 70 and barely pass it. I’d give shattered space a 60… which in some places is a D and technically passing, but in most places is a failing grade that you can still recover from.
That said, this interview and the responses from Bethesda about its criticism are pretty damming… MOST of the criticism is valid (there’s several people reviewing it on steam blatantly saying they’ve not even played it.) There are many objectively bad aspects of the dlc as you mentioned.
I find it interesting that he’s managed to make it sound like people’s reactions to the things he said couldn’t possibly be his fault. Even just taking what he says at face value, it’s not HIS fault for not communicating clearly, it’s OUR fault for “not understanding.” The tone is BERATING. Not “That’s not my intent, and I’m sorry if my comments came across that way” but “THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS.” It actually validates the thing he’s being criticized for which is a complete unwillingness to admit fault in any meaningful way.
Gamers showing hate means they still care. Ignoring their criticism is a simple path to indifference – and that will be the moment, when they stop being fans. And losing fans in long term leads to losing money, and I can’t understand, why they don’t get it
These guys are smart nerds but stupid business people: the idea of the big 3 makes sense however, I would make my flagship brands compete against one another for funding, profits, bonus, etc by creating 3 different teams.
Anyone else know the Kamala Harris ads by heart ?
Nobody should be excited for The elder scrolls 6.
lol, Elder Scrolls 6 on Creation Engine 3? As if. Probably will be the same engine as Star field, with some minor upgrades.
But the should have started porting their design and systems to Unreal Engine after Fallout 4. Or a different engine, but something newer, with better physics and animation systems. That engine runs like a 20 year old dog up hill, while trying to modern lighting systems, and it can barely hold it together. They haven’t even approached seamless loading, environmental physics simulations (wind, trees, etc), or modern animation blending systems (although they’ve integrated some new animation systems in starfield). I remember when I booted up Skyrim at release and was so disappointed, it was just Oblivion again in many many ways. And all the gameplay improvements I wanted to see weren’t there. So when starfield came out, I didn’t have high expectations, but I think most players were younger than me and didn’t have these previous experiences or memories with BGS, and really thought Starfield would be some kind of complete reinvention of their games.
Bethesda is gonna end up like Ubisoft and that’s the sad truth of it 😢
Sometimes you say the funniest and the best stuff! 🙂
People like Emil don’t understand that passion and hours spent do not necessarily equal a good product.
I’m a big Bethesda fan. However, it feels like my best friend broke up with me but I don’t know why.
11:00 “If you think what you’re doing is the greatest thing ever all the time it is absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever.”
It’s been a baaaad year for AAA studios. Gamers have had enough at this point. If things don’t change people will stop investing in AAA games and the indie market will be where we put the majority of our time and money.
Emil is the main writer since FO4. He’s awful. They will NEVER make a good game until he’s gone.
Your wrong. I dont play Elder Scrolls to ‘Beat’, ‘Complete’, ‘Progress’. I play games or rather Open world RPG’s From Beth, to escape, and be immersed in another more interesting world with an interesting character. So yes, I do want them to make ‘worlds to live in’ !
Though im not saying Starfield qualifies for this, but Fallout/Es does..
Problem with “BSS” is that players are still paying them money for shallow work
It’s not that bad, they can still be creative about this.
2:16 …. Gee, what a shock.
unpopular opinion, bethesda are delusional because the fans are lowkey supporting their bullshit. Unlike in cyberpunk where everyone was like cut the bullshit out cdpr so they didn’t have a choice. It’s the same problem as EA.
Played the dlc on Xbox x. Finished the storyline. Now I can’t leave the planet. Game crashes before the cut scene to space. Now what?
Heads aren’t in sand. They’re in a$ses
I don’t get why Bethesda is pearl clutching so much about starfield. It’s really common for a lot of developers to do the first game in a series and for it to be just okay, often the second is what the first was meant to be. Making new IP is hard! Look at uncharted 1!
The fact I can go back to a vanilla Skyrim experience and have more fun and get lost in the world even after thousands of hours over ten years says so much with only having 40 hours in starfield.
I’ve never been a Bethesda fan. I briefly played fallout 4 for like an hour and absolutely hated it. But one thing I will say, I’m shocked at how popular this studio is/was. The games all look absolutely terrible IMO. Graphics, textures, facial animations, the writing, everything. I honestly think they’ve been kept afloat by nostalgia
it feels like BGS is so deep into technical depth that they don’t know how to dig their way out of it…
this dlc does not reflect that amount of time and effort
It really starts to irritate me that all the giant companies are not about making games with passion, heart and soul. It’s just minimal effort and trying to get the maximum reward for it. It’s getting so disgusting that people are revolting against this shit. Elder Scrolls 6 will be the same shit, it’s the 2 decades old engine, it’s buggy as hell, they know how too make content in it fast and cheap, and the only goddamn good thing that will work at launch is the f*cking ingame store for you to buy a damn AXE skin.
get rid of todd and at least half of the battle is won
The “people wanna live in our games” really surprises me, because starfield does not support that kind of play style.
If you want me to immersive myself in your world why is it entirely static? Where is there no dynamic war system or faction reputation or actual dynamic exploration mechanics ?
Starfield is a theme park where you eventually run out if rides, just like any other Bethesda game, difference is that they aren’t seamlessly tied together.
Starfield is like if you took the skeleton of space sim game but forgot to add in the systems.
I told Emil Pagliarulo on Twitter that he should resign because he single-handedly destroyed Bethesda, and that Microsoft should close Betheada and sell its IP to a studio worthy of the IP. So he blocked me!
Before starfield was announced, NOBODY was waiting for a brand new IP from Bethesda. If anything, we wanted a new single player Fallout game. I honestly think they feel the need to try something completely new even tho they have the perfect recipe to make a masterpiece. Fallout 76 was a joke. Starfield is a loading simulator. Now I can only wonder if Elder Scolls 6 will have that single player hand crafted style of game that we all fell in love with?
The problem with Emil saying “it’s not everyone’s cup of tea” is that all their prior single player games were every Bethesda fans cup of tea, fallout 4 as well because the story was pretty mid but gameplay was decent. If all of a sudden everyone who loves your games now says this new one is bad, it’s not because this new piece of art is subjective, it’s because this new game is disappointing
It’s refreshing to actually finally see a realistic article. Not a kiss ass journalist post, or a cringe fire stoking troll post like most of them, but a balanced an accurate take on the situation.
Truth is, Starfield is a perfectly fine game. It looks good, plays good, runs good, and has a lot of content. There’s isn’t one thing INHERENTLY “bad” about it. It’s not Skyrim in space. It’s not alternate timeline fallout. It’s starfield, and it’s own game. You can’t compare and judge it against skyrim/fallout, because it’s a totally different style of game.
I paid like $84 on a pre-order deal for the game, and for that I got the game, the expansion, and 1100 creation credits. That amount of content is WELL worth the price. I have probably 50 hours of playtime, and I’m nowhere near completing the game yet. By time I’m done, I’ll surely be under a dollar per hour of playtime. Compared to the costs of other entertainment media, it’s a steal.
I bet most of these ridiculous flame stoking edge lord trolls prob didn’t even buy the game. It’s just a trend to hop on the hate train, when most complaints are just ridiculous, and only judging the game by silly and unfair standsrds.standards. Take ES and FO, and even Bethesda out of the conversation entirely. Judge the game as if those other things don’t exist, and as a lone title and first game of a new IP. You’ll find that it’s likely above average compared to most “average” modern game releases.
My feelings on starfield remain it’s okay… because I don’t hate it, but I don’t love it either. The game is just not as fun as Skyrim, oblivion, and fallout 3 & 4
I really *REALLY* wanted to like Starfield and I had hope that the DLC would give it the push it needed to become a decent contender. But, the story is really lackluster and there’s way to many loading screens. ALSO it takes way to freaking long to level up and everything. I swear they built the game with the mindset that people are going to spend hundreds of hours on one save. There’s no alternative choices for most of the quests, the vendors have very little money, but everything costs an arm and a leg. There’s just so many things wrong with the game that they keep digging their heels in.
Think I’ll just go back to Morrowind…
The best game Bethesda had their grubby fingers on was New Vegas.
i played 10h on my Xbox and then played something else. what a boring game.
Oblivion and Skyrim are in my top game of all time. i had more fun with TESO.
I used to be laughed at when i said that skyrim, as a game on its own, isnt really that great. Like a 7 or 7.5 out of 10. Its the modders that made the game what it is…
I always said that this game only has the atmosphere and music thats really great, everything else was only surface level “good”, and shallow. What really is the reason for this game being where it is, is that they made it the perfect fantasy sandbox, for the modders to.go nuts with. And go nuts they did.. And after almost 13 years, and a 2nd game (fallout 4), i think that the modders dont want the same all over again with Starfield. Especially when it’s as limiting as they say it is… And so do the people.
Obviously people will compare games of the same price. Starfield costs as much as Red dead Redemption 2, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, and similar….. Compared to those games, Starfield is a stinker.
get Froudd Howard step down
You don’t like Starfield whatever okay…suggested Temu ads though…bit sus no?
Delay Elder Scrolls 6 to 2030. I can’t bear more disappointing, design hell, trash like Starfield.
Luke is obsessed with starfield. Idk why he keeps giving it attention.
The game is going to make them money, they don’t care about the reviews.
The thing I find amazing is Bethesda, as a studio, has consistently become worse over time. I heard this a while back, and it really stuck with me: Bethesda is a AA studio with the budget of a AAA studio. They have a lot of money, but the talent, the ability to deliver on what few good ideas they still churn out is just not there. Tech debt from their ancient engine has accrued. Their FPS mechanics are fine, but not better than fine. Elder Scrolls is by far the most impressive product they have to offer, and Skyrim remains the best game they have released in recent memory, but it is not in the same league as the previous entry. Oblivion is probably their high point in terms of writing combined with gameplay, and that was eighteen years ago. Skyrim is good, but a step down. Fallout 4 is a huge step down from 3 in terms of writing, even if it looks more impressive. Starfield is probably their worst effort yet, with only a couple of storylines that are remotely interesting, and a main storyline that is…bad. I like the idea of the Starborn, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. Shattered Space is not an outlier, it is a par for the course BGS product at this point.
Lmao why are people surprised? Its a huge company that keeps getting sales..why would they change/improve the game, because regardless of what they build, they see and know you guys will buy it anyway 😂..its simple…NO CUSTOMERS=NO MONEY= COMPANY WILL LISTEN AND INPROVE. Dont be simps and do whats right…pirate it instead 😂
Star citizen starter package is at most 45$ and is a much better title especially recently.
screw these greedy scammers
Never been a huge fan of Bethesda games and only own new Vegas, but when starfield was announced and trailers were coming out I thought finally they made a game I could really see myself liking. Fortunately, I waited until the reviews came out and decided to pass yet again. It’s a shame because it had a lot of the right ingredients but didn’t seem to stick the landing.
It’s just business logic: if you make money continue what you’re doing never mind how bad and convince yourself it’s the optimum strategy for long term, listening only to your ACTUAL customers. If you stop making money, lay people off, take time to critically evaluate your strategy, listen to your POTENRIAL customers. Its why every MMO turns to crap – only listening to top players. It’s why Hollywood kept churning out progressively worse films. It’s why Joker2 exists. Eventually the money runs out and then they start listening because they have no choice.
16x again?
‘seems like the haters were right all along’
Ngl make this game mmo and the community will carry this game
Yea just because a game company had some success or even major success’s with previous games, does not mean that the future products the make are going to be of the same quality an care. I’m surprised that after fallout 76 people gave them money again. Especially for a preorder. Not only that but with the 7billion different versions of Skyrim and the insane monetization of other tittles include Fallout 76 and all their mobile games I just am blow away that people are surprised by this.
After the release of BSG last 2 major titles Fallout 76 and Starfield, if you give BSG money for Elderscrolls in a preorder or even expect that game to somehow to bring back the BSG of old…. You are all grossly mistaken and deserve to lose the money you spent and have the frustration you get. I am sure if this game was not on game pass the score of it would be even lower.
The ridiculous sediment of I wanna support my studios and developers even though they keep giving us shit needs to stop. You know when you go to your favorite food establishment and suddenly the quality of the food and service and experience just falls off a cliff. YOU STOP GOING TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT. Somehow in gaming we don’t do this we just keep buying an eating the shit complaining hoping that shit will taste better next time.
Bethesda never fixes anything. Most of their patches break something else. They let the modders fix their stuff.
Starfield would be much better whenever the creation kit is released for Starfield, but it is taking too long and people are losing interest fast.
Bethesda tries to recreate the magic of their early 2000s games by making games that would be considered good in the early 2000s
I wanna play the same save file for 5000 hours
The idea of having a save file to keep playing on is great…
HOWEVER: If there is any engine on which saves tend to get bloated and corrupted its Bethesda’s trainwreck of an engine.
Emil needs to keep his mouth shut unless he’s going to resign, because one of the biggest problems in StarField, the reason people wont push through the other problems, is the writing is absolutely trash.
Why can’t they just admit the game is trash. waiting as long as we did for it and this is what we got. Then a year waiting for something and we get the same trash. No changes no fixes just previously removed content. I have been a long time fan of their games and this was so upsetting. And the way they are handling it is even more upsetting. If Warframe (a free to play game) can do what they have done with the lack of resources that studios like Bethesda have tends to create a clear picture that they do not game and it’s just a cash cow and they don’t care about the actual game of the ones playing the game.
I actually played a survey mission. I found everything on the list but one. By god was that the most annoying thing to do. Vast swaths of nothing to distract you with, nothing worthwhile to investigate while you do this side quest. That really dawned me to hating the game. Yeah, the ship construction is cool but that’s it. Just take it out and make a space battle game with the name of Starfield and make it PvP like Cross Out and you’ll get more out of it as well as the playerbase.
The use of procedural generation was something that I saw being a problem back with Skyrim. At first, it seemed cool that passing through a village again meant there could be new quests. It wore off real fast when the NPCs were still giving fetch quests in the same dungeons. Their procedural systems can certainly make a lot of stuff, but people still have to get involved and make it interesting
Game studios need to realize that the players are the ones in charge. If a vast majority of players don’t like a game the game fails and you need to move on.
lol 59% is a D not an F
The new standard for dlc for me now is the shadow of the erd tree.
I currently think, that Emil is not a content director, but a marketing guy and his job is to tell people bullshit.
I loved it
Emil Pagliarulo is toxically positive. That makes him a net detriment to his coworkers and his company. A skilled leader would address his inability to take criticism with him and if that didn’t produce results, let him go.
I got bored with starfield within about 20 hours. Thank god it was free otherwise I would have been not only disappointed but I would have felt ripped off too.
looks like toxic positivism isn’t just a Ubisoft problem
This happened because you enjoyed fallout 4.
I would compare this to The Witcher 3’s expansions. Even the smaller Hearts Of Stone had much higher quality content. Blood & Wine was the size of an entire game and it was only something like £20? Bethesda really needs to re-evaulate their relevance as a “AAA” game developer. They are living in their “Bethesda bubble”. It is going to burst.
I love the game hoenstly( 162 hours in doing sidequests only). My biggest problem with this game is the horribly washed out blacks and low visual clarity inside interior environements. The lighting is either distractingly awful to look at, or its some of the best lighting and graphics Ive ever seen in my entire life, no in between. Planets with the sun rising look AMAZING. That same planet at nights looks like so bad and washed out that you cant see a rock 2 feet in front of your face. Its SO bad. Fallout 3 from 2008 has much better ligthing at night, for comparison
they postponed elder scrolls for this trash game
Pretty certain elder scrolls will be shit now.
the bethesda cope is real…btw isnt No Mans Sky on Xbox lol?
Bethesda fans remind me of Zelda/Nintendo fan vibes 😅
I think they need to to replace him with a writer that is actually Latinate about the games that they make. Emil is extremely tone deaf and not even taking players criticisms into consideration. Which in turn is making BGS look bad.
I liked it.
I have just uninstalled starfield after 395 hours so bored, very disappointed. Will not be paying $50 Australian for their DLC
Bathesda is turning into Activision Blizzard more and more with each game they release
Reminder XD this travesty is half the cost of the base game. This is shovelware
I haven’t even finished Shattered Space. While I don’t think it was truly a god awful expansion as most would proclaim it to be. It is a very lackluster experience and a complete oversight on Bethesda’s part to flesh out House Va’ruun space. They were hyped up to be this technologically hyper advanced faction. Like a shining beacon of spirituality and progress among the stars. Aesthetically, Darza and Va’ruun Kai looks somewhat like that, but I expected so much more. I imagined a sprawling city of huge residential, business, religious, military skyscrapers of different designs,. Plated in thick layers of perfectly polished gold that would’ve looked marvelous under the red hue of Va’ruun Kai’s atmosphere. This was supposed to be the home of the promised of the Great Serpent. It was supposed to reflect his majesty. An extension of it, but what we got truly pales in comparison. IDK why Bethesda went with the tragic catastrophe route or why they think that Shattered Space is even one fiber as good as Far Harbor. House Va’ruun was their one saving grace in this game, because we all know how pointless NG+ is. I don’t see how they can recover player numbers from this when the base game is kind of bad and their first DLC is even worse.
My gun doesn’t even reload! This is the, “reward,” for $7 dollars?
Emil and Todd: “Nah, dude. You just don’t get it.”
🤦♂️
Why play Starfield once when I can play The Outer Worlds twice instead lol
the X beyond series is deeper than starfart
Since FO76 came out, BGS interviews basically boil down to Todd (or whichever muppet he sends instead) trying to gaslight fans without having the slightest clue on how to actually gaslight people.
What they needa do is lay off stupid ahh 76 do better smh instead of all that effort for star field they shoulda just made a new fallout game honestly smh
You wont read this but ill still say – youre just very uncharitable and trying to force a narrative that they dont care about criticism when they explicitly say the opposite and also clearly have responded to criticisms a lot – they introduced the vehicle, added maps, fixed fo76 adding npcs etc.
But youre like – LOOK AT THIS JOKE FROM OLD AWKWARD TALK HE DID FOR THE FIRST TIME , IT MUST MEAN THEY DONT LISTEN TO CRITICISM, GOTCHA! You just keep strawmaning to support your conclusions, then youre surprised fans, who get dogpiled from all around the gaming media, are calling you a hater.
What you say in this video is unreasonable, its not possible to make a game like Starfield if your goal is to just “pump out generic junk food games”. Like it or not, its a very big and ambitious game, single player, offline, no day 1 dlc.
And what do you mean by “old school fans that are looking for substance are left behind” ? Do you mean fans of Skyrim, Fallout4, Fallout 3? Oblivion? Or do you mean fans that didnt like those games either? Because its safe to say those arent fans of BGS AT ALL.
I wish Starfield would have never been made all it did is make the release date for Elder Scrolls and Fallout years away and the company is a complete joke
Starfield still has no functioning interior maps that should say pretty much everything about this game…
I really like your background setup. Dark lighting with crisp cam gives it a cool stylish effect
Bethesda just pretends to gaslight his fanboys into liking it, even if they do the biggest shit ever they will still pretend that is good, and I think they’re so delusional that even believe it themselves.
Nah all they did with Starfield, including the new dlc is pure trash at worst and mediocre at best, that’s the reality.
Bethesda isn’t the Bethesda we remember, they don’t even try to do better, they must go down they are just another cancer in the gaming industry.
It’s moments like this where you realize…these people seem to think elder scrolls and fallout fans will just play these games for thousands of hours like have you guys SEEN Nexus mods? I personally believe Bethesda makes mediocre but open ended games that they allow modders to manipulate and develop for years and years afterwards… and THATS what people have spent almost 15 years doing in skyrim.
I don’t get why BGS is so adamant that Starfield is “a unique experience on consoles”. Between No Man’s Sky and Elite Dangerous, Starfield is pretty late to the large, open world space exploration genre. I guess they just mean it’s “unique” in that it’s the only one made by BGS.
Im starting to think Bethesda didn’t get worse and we just grew up and realized that we value good games over an RPG tag. Skyrim of course is still an exception in my eyes.
They are correct to say it’s on par with the their Fallout series, Fallout 3 being one of the most boring games I’ve ever played, and Fallout 4, the death of the fallout rpg series
this is incredibly the first piece of content about the dlc because who the fuck cares about starfield anymore
If only they improved on the formula rather than explaining to the players why their games were good.
Shattered space ranks right above horse armor. So it’s not the worst dlc.
Starfield is no ones favorite anything. No one.
“it is a technical marvel, we made the biggest puddle ever with this 1 glass of water!”
the shallowest product that is so thin it has giant holes in it.
“I do think he cares” no he’s said he doesn’t, He said he HATES writing for games because players will take the great american novel, tear pages out of it and make paper airplanes. He doesn’t care. He’s NEVER cared, and him and Todd have gotten so delusional that BGS is now on the top with EA. They don’t see cyberpunk as a threat, they don’t see the witcher as a threat. So they won’t fire back with “I don’t care how much it takes, BEAT CDPR, THEY ARE USING OUR FORMULA AND WE MADE IT WE HAVE TO BE BETTER!” And THAT. Is the problem. They see, no competition. They aren’t firing back with EITHER a toxic competition, or even a more level headed competition that improves both studios.
Shattered Space has me scared for ES6…
I was seriously hoping Starfield would try to expand on what they have. The game as a whole tried some things and not much of it was fun enough. The ship combat could of been changed or improved. The traversal could of been made fun instead of painful. But all they would make was a short compact dlc? Bethesda needs to do something drastic for elder scrolls 6 to win people over. Scrap the engine and try something the still feels like elder scrolls but more dynamic and not stiff and bland like Starfield
I like it. Modder’s made it better. I love it. STAR WARS!
Bethesda is a shell company. Just a nostalgic name facade with no real substance or purpose inside. No one wanted to play this game the developers just wanted something to do. They just wanted the Bethesda rpg badge on their resume so they can brag to their coworkers. Same thing with GOW Ragnarok. The people who make AAA games now don’t actually like games.
Fallout 76 has atmosphere, fun etc. However the “content” updates are exactly like this DLC. They end in about 4 missions then nothing. Theyre tainting 76 with these things. The fact Microsoft wont atep up and give 76 a dedicated funded 76 Development team to go wild is annoying.
I’ve clocked in 300 hours of Starfield. Overall, the only part that intrigued me was the faction quest lines. Aside from missions, anything else just bores me unfortunately.
When Star Citizen is a more fun and engaging game while being a scam, you know you’re fucked.
Took me about 3 nights to complete all of it.
Exploring space to strip new planets of their resources is the wet dream of billionaires, not the rest of us. Most of us already live in the wasteland, so we felt lie we belonged in the Fallout games. That is what we wanted more of.
For once, big business does need to step in. Phil needs to increase Bethesda and split them into franchise teams. 10-15 years between franchise releases is insane.
IMO its the best game they’ve made hands down, solid 9 out of 10 and I’ve played for 250HRS and still have so much more to do.
Introducing a new, bespoke custom engine to build TES VI may push it back by another 3 or so years (2028-2030 release)… but y’know what. Fine.
Because I don’t know if I’d even want a TES VI on the current systems they’re working with.
The loading screens between zones ALONE should’ve been the warning signs.
The only thing these devs are passionate about is how they are ‘changing gaming for the better by introducing DEI initiatives.’ There is no passion for stories, characters and locales that do not reinforce this singular ideological theme. That’s why everything is shit nowadays.
Honestly, it’s those same fans that call us haters for being mad that Bethesda is shitting the bed are the same reason I’ve checked the fuck out. They won’t get better so long as they have that loud, small echo chamber and yknow what? Fine. Have fun. I have other shit to do and play that respects me and my money.
I mean, a developer is allowed to do whatever kind of game they please. If this is what they wanted to make and they fully believe in it and feel like they succeeded in what they set out to do, then great. But they better not cry over lackluster sales, because supposedly, this was a passion project, not business.
“There is nobody but the most hard headed … buffoon claiming this is on the level of Far Harbor”. Bro I had a guy arguing it was comparable to Phantom Liberty. The hardcore fanbois have lost their damn minds.
As somebody who lost 1M credits, lost 6 complex outposts, everything maxed out, you name it, Bethesda is a joke and Starfield is pure garbage.
I’m not buying a Bethesda game again, even if on GamePass.
That touch of love of story is missing. I miss the goofy things you would find in the older games.
I think Pagliarulo wanted to say that it’s the best game they did in a Starfield franchise.
Damn, they took the exactly wrong lesson from FO3, and Starfield is the culmination of that busted mindset.
Far Harbor was just a cheap knock-off of Point Lookout 😒
I’d really like them to define what they mean by “in a lot of ways”. Aside from the combat, ship building and visual fidelity, there is quite literally nothing in Starfield that beats their previous games. Quest writing is atrocious, meaningful exploration is absent, POI’s are shallow, outpost building is worse, the majority of perks are useless or completely locked behind a ridiculous grind, AI is as dumb as it’s ever been, stealth doesn’t work properly, factions have no impact on the world, its own lore is consistently broken, procgen is borderline abusive with how much the game relies on it… I genuinly don’t understand how anyone can stand there and say Starfield is an improvement over anything that came before it.
Bethesda can surely afford to staff up and skill up and fast forward long dev times and still release something polished and finished. Honestly I think a big leap forward in their game design quality would justify short term costs in the long term.
4 to 5 hours for DLC isnt bad for dlc. Resident evil 3 remake full game was about 5 hours long
I’m passionate about tennis but I’m pretty bad at it.
I’m pedantic about semantics, but it does matter: You didn’t accidentally beat Shattered Space in an afternoon. That was by design. Rather, you **unwittingly** beat Starfield in an afternoon.
Attributing this to accidentality gives Bethesda more room for grace than they deserve. The reason you **unwittingly** beat Shattered Space in an afternoon is that everything we were told up to that point led you to believe the expansion would be longer. And for that, Bethesda must take heat.
I don’t think that GTA VI will even beat Cyberpunk 2077 dialogues between characters.
If they want TES VI to succeed, Bethesda needs to understand that it’s not the 2010’s anymore
I blame Hodd Toward and Emil Papagarucho
“Troglodytic Bafoon.” Not an everyday insult I hear; gonna have to write that one down 👍
No one wants elder scrolls to ask our pronouns but I bet it wil 😢
The game is fucking empty. In every single way. Devoid of any atmosphere or immersion. The first “city” says it all. The fact it had no genre to begin with then they backpeddled and tried to go kooky sci fi and copy dead space is pathetic. Lol.. also, the faction was non existant in the game, blatent cut “content” and there here is no lore in Starfield. Noone will be talking about starfield “lore” in years to come. People still talk about Elder Scrolls lore.
Srarfield is a true dichotomy to me. The aesthetic, ship building and fps play are great; the story, companions and overall watered down themes are just crap
Dude, that mouse looks like a spaceship, what is it? Starfield is doo doo, let’s face facts brah, blow out your Todd Howard Pumpkin Spice candle and toss it in the trash. ( but hauk a loogie in it first)
Commenting because the Todd Howard Spiced Pumpkin Candle made me laugh
I’m surprised anyone is surprised that the DLC is soulless trash.
That’s what their whole ass game is.
Only tribal fanboys & people with basically zero experience with what videogames can offer enjoy this game.
16x the excuses. 16x the lies. 16x less content. 16x more hacks of the Creation Engine
I feel like TES6 is going to be terrible at this point. I really, really how I’m wrong
Luke, the way you said “Thank God” that you weren’t playing Starfield was just so disrespectful and foul. You can join the let’s hate Starfield bandwagon and be the mascot but I emphatically love the game and believes it has way more pluses than minuses. From the combat, Rev-8, hundreds of quests to uncovering interesting locations in the distance and going on your own space adventure is captivating and alluring to say the least. It’s a strong Bethesda title that can go up against any of the Fallouts and several of the Elder Scrolls. It’s a great game despite its shortcomings and one that Xbox that we proud to have.
es6 is going to be shit, do not pre order or buy, they will release another half baked game, Bethesda has gone woke. go woke go broke
When he read “the best game ever made” a ad started with someone getting thrown at a locker and before the talking started I genuinely thought it was a cutaway joke.
I wont buy anything Bethesda until the leadership changes. There is a core failure at the top that they just cant let go of. In trying to be great, they failed to do good.
We bought Skyrim multiple times for a reason….no one is gonna buy Starfield again
You know you’re delusional when you self proclaim your game as the greatest ever, yet no one is agreeing.
ive seen like 3 videos of this theme but none of them ever point out what specifically makes the dlc bad. they just say it was bad or not good as if everyone has already collectively decided this. what actually makes it bad?
Is Todd Howard truly that delusional.
Does he really, really believe that starfield is some revolutionary game that is ahead of its time?
That’s somehow it’s content is in perceivable by an audience not yet accustomed to that sort of content?
He really and genuinely and truly believes that starfield is the best space simulation game of all time?
Just saying that should get him fired, just saying that he should seek mental help.
Starfield looks to me like one of the worst games I’ve ever seen.
Incredibly dull environments with no personality at all. MPCs that wander around aimlessly that look extremely generic with no real task at hand or mind or purpose in the world.
Cookie cutter random placed items of zero importance and/or interaction.
Countless planets that offer nothing over the previous or next.
And a used procedurally generated content which makes it even worse.
I can’t imagine what took them so long to make this game. I feel like this is something Ubisoft could have made in one year to 8 months.
In many ways it feels like an indie game and not a good one.
The game finished, looks like a pre-alpha preview for a GoFundMe project.
The only reason I have any hope at all in elder scrolls 6? Is because of its incredibly simplistic nature.
Shiny looking armor cool weapons interesting quests and beautiful environments with a sense of expiration which should be easy to do because it’s just caves minds and some houses and some other simple architectures.
As long as it’s not extremely DEI and woke then it’ll probably be fun enough for people to enjoy and it may even be very good.
But I don’t know? Seeing how their potentially doing it in a desert-like area with a lot of sand with the “Redguards” is not so reassuring.
This makes me feel like there’s going to be incredibly dull procedurally generated environments typical lazy Bethesda style, probably woke agenda since the red guards are black there’s probably going to be a bunch of random lines about how the other races are against them or something like that wouldn’t surprise me even slightly.
I have no hopes for elder scrolls 6. But even with that said I’m sure that will at least be far more entertaining and fun than starfield lol!!!
How about Tom Howard fix the buildings missing their textures from the vehicle update
It is a great game. HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT THEY DON’T LET YOU BECOME THE SPEAKER IS A MASSIVE DISGUSTING AND PATHETIC OVERSIGHT!!!!
I find it crazy that Starfield has sat uninstalled and I have ZERO desire to reinstall and finish a single play through. Only BGS game where that’s ever happened. Sorry, the game had me rolling my eyes at points where people said ‘it gets good’. Predictable slop.
It’s really a love hate relationship at this point. They are amazing at making worlds, I still play 3 of their games on the weekly to this day but I feel like they are getting worse as time goes on. Starfield was such a disappointment. To see the same bugs across generations of their games is crushing. To see them not fix game breaking story continuation bugs made me feel like they could care less about their fans that have been here for decades.
They had to know this was bad. They just had to. They can’t possibly be this delusional. How can you be so far off track that you seriously and unironically think exploring desolate planets and empty space in a video game would be just as exciting as exploring space in the real world?
bugthesda deserves the downfall that ubisoft is getting rn. i long for the days where AAA studios make actual good games
Everything that Emil guy says annoys me. Even after trying to walk back his undeserved praise trying to call a train wreck their best work, he still tries to drown out the legitimate complaints by adding in that “we heard from plenty of people who love it” bullshit. He is still out of touch, he still doesnt understand why people are so upset. Game devs genuinely need to move past this inane idea that being passionate about making the game means anything at all about the end quality of the product. Nobody cares how passionate you were, if the game sucks you made a bad game and dont deserve a participation trophy.
Todd n the gangs best quality has always been letting the company fix their bullshit.
First Halo, now Elder Scrolls… why are all my favorite games franchises doomed? Lol
Well said Luke 👊 hopefully they listen to this
Bethesda Mediocre Studios strikes back, the ubisoft electric boogaloo. At this point bethesda is just as bad like ubisoft. The only difference is that games get offline play and can be buyed from gog.
Cmon, fallout has been shit since 3 and Elder Scrolls is just as janky and stupid as Starfield. You just played those shit games as a kid.
I have Starfield and Shattered Space in my library ready to download. I haven’t done so yet. It’s BGS (and MS) – You know they are going to ship the game broken and it will take at least a year to fix. People jumping up and down beating their chest, demanding you join their point of view just makes me laugh. They really need to get out more and broaden their perspective.
I am sure it is an achievement for Bethesda’s corporate structure to push out something completely new and in fact a bit different to their previous products, but this tone deaf spin doctor definitely has to go as its a mediocre game. Its not even shit, it’s just mediocre to the bone. How can you call it BGS’s best game is beyond me.
Before the video already starts, I already know the rhetoric they’ll use
BIG three? It’s the ONLY three they got. The best thing Bethesda has done the last decade or so is publishing DOOM
It’s just lazy and disrespectful that they disregard/blame the people who BUY your games and give you feedback.
The best game BSG has ever made was Oblivion. Best world, best main questline best guild guests, best side quests, best DLCs and one of the best modding communities ever. There is NO FUCKIN ARGUMENT I will hear that will convince me otherwise.
There are a lot of guys who just hate Bethesda and have never even played the games, if I had a dollar for each time a guy said “Skyrim is the worst game ever made in the history of gaming!!!” I would be rich. Worst game ever made lol. So funny, if it’s so bad it wouldn’t have sold the top 6 most in history of gaming
I never bought Starfield. The last video I watched from you was when you rated the early version of Starfield an 8/10. With the patch and addons it should now be at least a 9/10, an almost perfect game…
So, what happened?
Had no issues with it. Apart from the pronoun pandering, it was a good game.
Bgs is dead. It’s sad.
I don’t dislike Starfield because I want The Elder Scrolls VI
Thanks to Starfield, I no longer want The Elder Scrolls 6. It cannot possibly be good.
diversity is our strength.
Crazy how little self awareness Emil has. Like the rant about how hard it is to create video games (as if other developers aren’t experiencing similar hardships while making their games and still being vastly more competent at it) was one thing, but does he not think it’s strange that he’s the only lead writer of a AAA studio who constantly needs to try and convince people on twitter that their games are actually not garbage?
A tech demo isn’t a game.
Reminder: if they think this is their best, there is no hope for elder scrolls 6.
My main issue with Starfield is that they try so hard to mix hard scifi with space opera and it does not work.
The fact that they have no aliens and magical gravity ships means that they’ve taken the worst aspects of each
just to put into perspective. Fallout NV, with only 6 months more and being new to the gamebryo engine, Obsidian made a campaign+ side content worth 100+ hours.
gee…i guess a remaster of fallout 3, new vegas and oblivion is a no eh?…
They didn’t even built it from the ground up. There’s so many reused assest from Fallout reskin for Starfield.
The only people that seem to have problems with Starfields shattered space are people that live off of the i ternet and take money from other studios to trash them. Change my mind
Starfield was just a sci-fi skin for their engine, which in turn is no longer fit for purpose. Add the difficulty of creating a good space opera post-Mass Effect (whatever you thought of how that ended) and they were basically out of their depth. But they’re Bethesda, still trading on endless reissues of Skyrim, and they believe they can do no wrong.
Plagiarulo has to go.
Lower end of the iq bell.
This is why I so passionately hate the anti-woke, culture war, moral panic people. They give cover for devs/publishers to deflect REAL criticism from actual fans. The entire conversation around media critique is so damn toxic it’s hard to even be a part of.
What gets me, is ok, they aren’t doing amazing right night now, that’s FINE! But the sheer arrogant dismissal of criticism is something else.
Its not really even a space game. There isn’t any flying in space between planets. Tom should try playing the competition like Elite Dangerous or No Mans Sky. They are actual space RPGs.
i love that you used the objectively more well-respected Fat Emil model from the Fallout 3 production instead of the modern high-poly Emil who apparently lost all of the weight from his brain. Best game you’ve ever made, hahahaha. Whats really pathetic to me though is that “the best games” Bsoft is responsible for werent even theirs, they purchased and then destroyed Fallout and this group of devs inherited Elder Scrolls from its originators and have ruined/forgotten about that series as well. That Starfield is the best these guys could come up with is proof enough that this studio should have been shuttered when they closed up Arkane.
They shouldnt be allowed to ask full price for a game they themselves admitted didnt find its footing until about a year before release. I cant believe these clowns are out there ruining the industry.
“It just works!”
Fire Emil.
I don’t have any skin in the game, I haven’t played this expansion. But you mentioned the quantifiable, measurable things that differentiated this expansion and Far Harbor more than once, insisting you could “count and add up and compare where Far Harbor is just objectively more impressive”, but, whoopsie, forgot to mention what any of the quantifiable, measurable things were. “It just is” isn’t quantifiable, so maybe you could take a minute to highlight what the measurable, comparable numbers are, thank you.
I’m willing to bet that i have more time and experience in starfield than all of the commenters and the guy in the video,put together.
All i see is a bunch of inexperienced whiners compating apples to oranges when it comes to game titles and genres.
Its very well proven that the vast majority of the crybabies on steam have less than 10 hrs and less than 3 hrs playing starfield and shattered space.
In fact, the reviews for any game you look at is nothing but the same people and the same bs as you see in this comment section.
I’m an original OG gamer and have every game system ever made,not to mention several cabinet arcade games.
I have THOUSANDS of hrs of playtime in starfield,between 2 characters. 1 modded and 2 vanilla.
I promise that nobody on here crying and complaining has enough time and experience to do so,let alone say anything to me.
Your complaints are akin to you having 1 months driving experience trying to critique a professional racecar driver with 20 yrs experience. 😆 🤣 😂
So go ahead,come to my comment and lie to me about your experience and expertise.
Oh and skyrim sucked and was so easy.
Hopefully it sucks because theyre focusing on fallout 5….
Everyone needs to request a refund for fallout 4 until they fix it. They broke a product I bought, it no longer works as it was sold. Never bought star field, knew from the trailers it wasn’t for me. Huge Bethesda fan myself, the dream of working for them someday was what got me into 3d modelling. Sad to see them fall so far. Hate that they’re making crap and tryna charge a fortune for everything. Now I just live for the modders and the remakes they make. Like fallout London and living for skyblivion. Its embarrassing to see modders use your engine better. Like how? You broke your own game with your own update, then have done nothing to fix it, like what? And they expect people to run for es6? They have alot of work to do to win fans back I think.
I played on Xbox S and barely got through Shattered Space for a few issues I ran into. At one point, I thought I’d have to restart the game entirely as I’ve done several times before. The consensus among Starfield lovers is that one’s criticism come from a place of satisfaction just doing so and while that may be true for some, in my case it’s the disappointment of running into progress-stifling bugs over and over again. The irony is that I run into most of these issues doing the very thing the game brags…exploring.
I did enjoy the original game but after waiting months for shattered space it was a crushing disappointment.
Boring characters, boring writing, the story doesn’t make sense and the choices you make don’t affect the ending. I can’t remember the name of a single character from the DLC.
I havnt looked, but im betting IGN gave it a 7.
Edit: Ok, i just looked.. i must be a psychic.
I don’t even know if it’s blowback. It’s just dead.
The lack of understanding and how out of touch Bethesda are is actually scary. Nobody looks at starfield and goes best game ive every played, however i bet plenty of people would say their favourite game is oblivion /skyrim, fallout 3.
Wouldn’t actually trust them with Elder scrolls 6 atm, unless serious advancements are made in game systems.
“Passion” is the exact opposite what Starfield, and this dlc, exudes.
Starfield wouldn’t be the best Scifi RPG if it was the only sci fi RPG.
While admen rarely downsell their products, this goes way subbar.. Reusing assets from animation to sounds and even reskinned models from previous games. Stapling them on a game that have no sensible place even in a made up gameworld. Even the story or anything surrounding it is basically copy and paste. Switch s to an capital s. Whoa wow the innovation, masterpiece of modern times. Well, atleast we know what the next Elder Scrolls will be.
Why do you keep a cardboard cutout of Todd Howard in your bedroom?
I really wish I had the patience to do a point by point breakdown of why Pagliarulo’s arguments are all fairly terrible but I’ll settle for this:
You do not have an open world RPG unless the world is believable, engaging, and has enough stories going on outside of your own to create a sense of wonder and suspension of disbelief. Where BGS has failed and continues to fail is primarily in how well they can write and illustrate a living, breathing world where your actions truly matter. What players want, at least in my eyes, is enough options with branching paths and consequences that makes a game worth playing and replaying. The further you dumb down your game, the more bland and washed out you allow your formula to become the more that the space you have made for a player to exist in turns into a sandbox with no tools to construct anything meaningfully interesting.
Where Starfield fails, where Fallout 4 and Skyrim also failed, is in making your actions matter. Your decisions, your choice, your ability to engage with the world in anything but the most superficial of levels (go here kill thing get reward) are strictly limited because as Pagliarulo has stated himself, the writers at BGS want you to experience their story, not yours. What’s even worse is the simple fact that it’s clear none of the people on these games are the most competent at this craft and struggle to weave a narrative that goes anything beyond, again, a truly superficial level. Nothing in Fallout 4 or Starfield has made me stop and genuinely question whether my actions were right or wrong, and in Skyrim I could argue the same thing but to a lesser degree because at least the world building from Morrowind has allowed them to make a blander, but still fairly interesting world years after the fact.
Ultimately it seems, and I know this has been said again and again, that Bethesda is riding on their previous successess and the rapidly dwindling good will they’ve had from sycophantic fans who can see no wrong in their design. Their philosophy is not one of improvement but of discouraging bad press, and it seems that this will not change as they continue to butcher the truly interesting creative works others have made for them. Don’t buy Elder Scrolls 6, don’t buy Starfield, in a game where the setting is as wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle there’s no amount of technical fixes or gameplay face lifting you can do to make it worth your time or money and you should not be spending a dime on this company. Vote with your wallet and if the money starts to dry up maybe they’ll realize they have to change tack and actually make a good game again.
There is this weird new notion among youtube creators that Bethesda fans don’t like to play a single save file for a very long time and like to dip into limited content instead, which couldn’t be more wrong. No wonder I don’t get all this Starfield hate. Writing and quest design has never been Bethesda’s strong suit, but the living worlds where you can just lose yourself. And in this notion Starfield does just fine.
*record scratch sound* We have to come to terms that the fandom and nostalgia has put Bethesda into a chokehold. Just like when you ask Ozzy Osbourne to play Paranoid over and over again 50 years later. He will do it, but it won’t sound like 1970 – even tho Black Sabbath reunited recently (yay), the sound won’t be the same. We treated Bethesda like a circus monkey is what i’m trying to say, we poked at them with a stick “do the Morrowind-Oblivion-Skyrim thing”. And that just doesn’t work anymore, as we obviously have seen now time and time again with their past releases. And even when the best musicians in the world combine to play the best version of Paranoid together, it won’t sound the same, as we have seen with Outer Worlds by Obsidian – it was a great space style Fallout game, but didn’t kick into gear like Fallout Las Vegas did. And that’s why in my opinion Remasters are more popular and just work better – “This is just a tribute”. We and Todd and Bethesda have to accept (they probably already did) that the old stuff just doesn’t work anymore for the new artists and you have better results with smaller, newer stuff. In my Heavy Metal opinion they should just trash and burn their old IPs and start a ton of new IPs. They still have the 90’s party style MMO TESO to celebrate the old stuff, and even they moved on to completely different pastures already in their content pipeline. They have expansions vaguely hinting at old games, just enough so boomers have a smile on their face, but then do everything else in a new style, like the Rogue-Style content the latest “Morrowind flavored” expansion had.
Fandom is a blessing on release and a curse 20 or 30 years after, if the fandom is stuck on a product you just don’t produce anymore.
And i love our game industry Todd and his gang. I hope they are honest to themselves. Because only then TES VI has a chance to be something unique and great. If TES VI just tries to emulate Morroblivionrim, then it will fail terribly. We definately know and see that now.
Passion without skill is useless.
I love it when every youtuber jumps on the same subject and says the same thing ten times over
“Objectively better writng” is where Bethesda’s Starfield falls far short.
Love how no man’s sky paved the way for empty space games but even they understood the complaints and the game changed in major ways to fix and address the issues
The biggest problem is the weak low quality writing. People complained about the Fallout 3 ending as it was bad writing. When you have characters that are immune to radiation it makes no sense that you have to go into the chamber and die. People don’t care if they die as long as the death makes sense and is well written. The writing is just getting worse and worse with each release. More and more people are complaining about the bad writing. Not once have they admitted it is an issue. That is what is really frustrating. They don’t want to make a quality RPG with good writing. They don’t care about consistency. They just want to make a dumbed down shooter where the story and writing do not matter. They think a shooter will sell more copies than a quality RPG. If their one passion and goal is to make a AA call of duty then ES6 has no chance
68d 13h 13m sailing the blackest sea (Xbox). I started following SF when I think there was only 3 sources on the internet acknowledging its existence. Checked on it every few months or so. Despite addressing flight very little, we ALL held hope that we could fly our spaceship. And when we found out there was no atmospheric flight, it broke all our hearts just a little bit. Whether we want to admit it or not.
Starfield taps into the magic of spaceflight, but removes flight. Experiencing that “marble” turn into a world beneath your feet, that’s flight. Fighting the greatest force in the universe and experiencing that world turn back into a “marble”, that’s flight. Burning across the surface, taking in all the flora/fauna, slipping through the terrain, checking your outposts or objective with a bird’s eye view, maybe a little airpower to soften the target, pulling a sweet thruster drift move, and touching down nice and soft. That’s flight.
Mechs, POIs, story, melee movesets, kill cams, lack of quality control with mods, unstable mod system, large cosmic events visible in space that draw you to those far away planets/systems triggering investigations to the cause, radio stations, large scale enemies and engagements, bad AI, etc. These are all moons orbiting the problem at the core. SF taps into the magic of spaceflight, but removes the wonder of flight.
I still like the game obviously, but that one thing is always there. Catch a smile out there. o7
Also, Luke, seems you’re slowly getting around again? Please, drop access journalism. Be the Luke we need, not the Luke of IGN
21:59 this is it
I’ve spent 80h in starfield, via Gamepass. Then i refunded the month of gamepass i took to play it. I mean, i wanted to cancel it, but it was refunded for some reason. Then, I watched 600h of reviews, just so I can get out of my system how wrong this game was.
I have no shred of hope for ES6 at this point unless something drastically changes
“We made three games and this is one of the three best of them” – who could argue with that?
Oddly enough I would settle with the same engine and meh combat if the damn writing/quest is good. But even that will not happen unless they catapult emil and the dei staff out of the building and hire decent people.
A lot of players just experienced it through game pass… which means that it wasn’t a purchase initially. I’d imagine that they think if they sell this as is it’ll give them some capital back all while making enough content to pass the return policy deadline.
Clearly he eats more than he works.
Instead of spending $30 for that DLC you can spend $40 and get Starship Troopers Extermination and DO YOUR PART!!
Some people live life, others live drama farming…
What is this new trend of developers trying to guilt trip you into saying good things by reminding you how “passionate” and how much “hard work” has been put into the game… the game is good or bad. That’s it.
Without STARFIELD you wouldn’t have anything to cry about.
What i want to ask is… why did it take so long to make starfield? Why will elder scrolls take so long? They are not even remotely as big and ambitious enough to warrant so much time to make.
Starfield MMO could be interesting though
I remember back when DLC’s were approximately half the size of the core game and truly felt like a whole new game. DA:O Awakenings, for example.
Hearts of stone & Blood & Wine don’t get enough credit they should be industry standard when they want 30 bucks
The problem with BGS is the same as the Steve Jobs Pepsi Co example. When you have a monopoly, the money guys take over and they push out the product guys. The company becomes about selling more products and less about making great products.
Bethesda is the definition of a game company resting on its laurels.
As a teacher, this just reminds me of the issue of accountability with students. If someone can do better, if you know they can perform better, bringing that up isn’t hating or bashing (as long as it’s done respectfully). Holding someone to a higher standard because you know they’re better than what they gave/did is just being responsible and holding them accountable
Bethesda hasn’t really kept up with their competitors.
Emil is just speaking in a way that keeps on the brand message line. Its really ungenuine and disrespectful.
“Biggest, richest Space simulation on Xbox” … meanwhile: No Mans Sky exists…
Ultimately, it’s greed. These companies are finishing a (half baked) game, then leaving a skeleton crew to maintain it and complete the DLC content. It didn’t take “you” a year to make the DLC, you left 3 guys and a pet rabbit to make it, and that’s why it took a year. 5 hours of content is not worth $30.
It’s an overpriced average game with an overpriced DLC. And I don’t think I’ll buy any future Bethesda products.
I too “accidentally finished’ Shattered Space in a night, and even with the aide content its no more than a week end of gaming…
They don’t have the choice, they have to be optimistic because they are doing their best, but their best is not as great as it used to be ….
I played Starfield on release and enjoyed the gameplay & the ship building. Some of the faction and regular side quests are very good, but I found the companions and main story to be incredibly mediocre. I haven’t bothered playing it again since & have no interest in playing Shattered Space, because it does nothing to address the reasons I stopped playing.
I have watched a lets play of the expansion and the criticism which I think fits best is, Shattered Space feels like a main game faction question, cut out and sold separately. This would be the same as selling a Fallout 4 expansion, so you can join and play the faction quest for the Railroad instead of it being part of the main game. Bethesda game expansions always are new stories, unconnected to the main game for the most part, where you have a decent number of options.
Dawnguard for Skyrim is a good example. You can ether choose to join the vampire hunters, rebuild their organization and take the fight to the Volkihar clan and other vampire threats across Skyrim. Or you can accept Vampire Lord Harkon’s offer of incredible power and immortality, betraying the Dawnguard and seeking ever greater dark power for yourself. In Shattered Space you are forced to join the House Vurun faction… This would be ok if it was a standard faction quest, but its not sold as one. Yea, very dissapointed.
Also, seriously what is with developers having this entitled attitude of “we put so much passion and effort in to this” as if that entitles them to my money and praise? I loved all of Skyrim’s expansions, I loved all of Fallout 4’s dlcs. Eventhough Nuka World was disappointing if you don’t play a raider. I see nothing to be excited for with Starfield until Bethesda pull their heads out of their rear ends, actually listen to the feedback and improve Starfield, instead of making a lazy faction quest ffs.
I just want to say I think starfield is pretty buttcheeks but he was right about fallout 3. I was pretty upset when it just ended because I wanted to keep exploring. I want to explore everything in one run
I don’t trust them for es6… even ex employees don’t trust them about it
I just want to ask Bethesda how friggin hard it is to add some proper looking ship weapons into the game, specifically main and secondary turrets in double, triple, and quad configurations?
ok, so , in theory, they wanted this to be a big new franchise going forward, but, uhhh, i have a question, once you break into the whole “multiverse, anything can happen, dont like this reality? find a new one!” crap, where the hell do you go from there?
Would of been much more interesting to focus on the destruction of earth and how the remnants of humanity scattered to different systems, and the pieces are there, if i recall correctly there is something in the game hinting that the invention of the Grav-Drive has something to do with the destruction of earth, but they do nothing with it. I’ve a feeling that the “multiverse rush” in media had heavy influence on the developement.
Elder scrolls VI is gonna be mid at best thats my prediction
the quote about “your gut is telling you it’s going to be good, because it was made with passion” sounds like it would be from an interview/article titled “Dev admits they bit off more than they could chew” or “Dev admits that they missed the mark”. It legitimately seems like the kind of thing someone would say if they were trying to explain how the team continued full speed ahead without noticing all the issues in the design. It sounds like something from those recent Concord stories about the culture of toxic positivity
Bethesda Software is truly disappointing. They should’ve been doing what CDPR did a while back. They should’ve staffed up and built up talent. The fact they’ve kept their numbers relatively low considering they have 3 big IP and take so long to develop games now is a joke. We won’t see TES6 until something like 2028 and it’ll likely suffer same issues as previous Bethesda games. Whereas we’ll probably get Witcher 4 and Cyberpunk sequel will be revealed by then.
FFS give me a demo so I can decide if I want to buy it without listening to the reviews, since the hate is coming from users that didn’t play the game.
The life cycle of video game developers:
1. Be a small, independent studio that nobody cares about filled with people passionate about making games.
2. Make a game that is super successful and beloved despite being a small studio and get money rolling in.
3. Use that money to make even bigger and better games that created a dedicated, passionate fanbase.
4. Become so big that you get bought up or otherwise sign a deal with a big corporation and turn your studio into another corporate zombie.
5. Start churning out games that are subpar but still make money because of the dedicated fanbase you built up in stage 3.
6. Continue churning out subpar games because the money is still rolling in and your corporate owners only care about profits.
7. See profits begin to decline because of the subpar games driving more and more people away, causing you to milk your games even worse and make even more subpar games to cut costs and do predatory pricing to keep your quarterly profits climbing higher despite the decline.
8. Eventually start collapsing both in success and financially because your games have become so bad and your pricing so predatory that even the most dedicated fans are slowly checking out.
Bethesda is currently at stage 6 and heading into stage 7.
No Ship parts… NO SHIP PARTS!!!!
Does Todd just keep emil around because they are school buddies or something because he is in every way bringing the company down unless what he’s doing costs 0 money somehow
8:41 should’ve just ended the sentence there
”there is not a bug or issue with the game that bethesda as a whole is not aware of”
yet they shipped starfield with legacy bugs from skyrim.
cannot believe that Pagliarulo (and presumably Bethesda as a studio) took the “players didn’t like Fallout 3 just ending” as meaning “our games should feel similar to those hamster-wheel live services where you just stay in them endlessly going through the motions”. people want an immersive and reactive world/story, not a world of endless “content”. people hated the ending cause it made no sense. people hated the ending cause it abruptly and unexpectedly stopped you from progressing anything you had ongoing. it meant that you could never the see the world or characters react to the outcomes of the story’s climax. it wasn’t a poignant moment of inevitable and meaningful self-sacrifice; it was an admission from the devs that they didn’t have the time/effort to showcase the aftermath
We just going to ignore the fact that Luke casually admitted that the cardboard image of Todd Howard was kept . . . In the bedroom? Suddenly the candles make more sense. Man’s a freak. Respect.
Saying Starfield is the best game they ever made is so removed from the truth… Starfield is creatively bankrupt. Everything there is in the game has been done before and probably better (i.e. No Man’s Sky). Elder Skrolls is based in it’s own universe with its own lore, calender, Gods, Factions, everything. In Starfield you have just our universe, so no new inventions there, heck they even just have NASA in there, the planet exploration is better in NMS. I mean they even brought back the adoring fan. I dont want fanservice from Bethesda, I want actual innovative new lore, new universe, etc.
It’s not really surprising that putting ketchup on a turd sandwich doesn’t make the turd sandwich any better. 🤣
Seeing all the copium and denial about the game in fan groups is just hilarious as well. People claiming that everyone is playing the game, when only 2% of players on Steam have even done the FIRST MISSION of the DLC. 🤦♂
The No Man’s Sky debacle was a lesson, free-of-charge, for the entire gaming industry on what NOT to do when making a space exploration game. Bethesda is so incredibly out of touch that they not only failed to learn that lesson, but saw the mistakes made by No Man’s Sky and thought to themselves, “we’ll do that . . . Again . . . Only make it more boring.”
Bethesda forgot how to make a Bethesda game. They forgot what made Bethesda games like Elder Scrolls and Fallout so special and beloved. They refuse to admit mistakes. They refuse to adapt and change. The games they do put out are increasingly disappointing, and those increasingly disappointing games take longer and more money to create. They are racing towards the edge of a cliff. I have almost no hope whatsoever that this can be fixed or that Elder Scrolls and Fallout can be saved.
Far Harbor was mid af anyway, don’t get my wrong by bethesda standards it was amazing but by regular game standards it’s attached to an already buggy, unpolished mess of a game. It’s crazy that they think they’ve done well with it. Shivering isles is still their best expansion, and they’ve been getting worse and worse since.
Scientists don’t find starfield boring
lol
Just a reminder you called Starfield a big „achievement“ when it came out! 🤦🏻♂️
Good thing I get it for free huh.
5:11 This still makes me lol
The only value starfield has, is a modding platform for a total conversion.
They will change their minds only when the money stops flowing. Sadly it is all they care for, there is no more passion in their games, not at all.
I Love the Setting from Starfield, but its to complicated to navigate, you never know where is the content. Then These Storys are somewhat boring…
Shattered Space is the first expansion to a Bethesda game that i haven’t played on release… and i got it “free” with the premium upgrade back on day 1 release.
Starfield is also the first Bethesda game that I’ve only played through once.
Bethesda needs a fucking shake up, urgently.
If I were to give seats to each of the Bethesda “big three” franchises, for Fallout and Elder scrolls would be a comfortable recliner with drinks holders, for starfield it’s going to be one of the white plastic garden chairs. Even after giving them these seats I know Fallout is going to spill their drinks, Elder scrolls is somehow going to forget about the reclining option, and starfield is going to break the back two legs and end up on its ass.
The graphics and the game engine isn’t the problem, it’s their gameplay that hasn’t changed since Morrowind. The only innovation they made was the use of power armor from fallout 4.
“I don’t have to play the game today, THANK GOD…” LMAO
seriously, there are so many things “they” dont get it, its insane. While not that bad of a game, there are certainly some things to enjoy, the problems with Starfield are numerous, and its crazy they just prefer to hide their heads in sand. Just to remember a few, most of these presented by Luke Stephens himself:
– Overly ambicious: 1000 empty planets devoid of substance doesn’t make for a good experience
– Lacking exploration, again, related to the 1000 empty worlds: there is often nothing to explore, or what is, is very repetitive
– Boring dialog, boring characters, sleep inducing missions
– Before the space buggies, it was too long and boring to travel from one place to another. While making travelling less annoying, many planets were not tought out for these vehicles
– no water physics, they didnt even bothered
– trees, such as in New Atlantis, looks terrible. Grass and vegetation in many planets can also look bad
– poor performance, specially in open cities
– the randomized, procedurally AI created quests: the worst kind of content – the literal opposite of something handcrafted or meaningful
– npcs looking sometimes good, other times terrible. The good looking ones tough, the animations feel many times robotic and non-expressive
– bugs, bugs, bugs, sometimes, critical bugs – some related to quests – that can screw whole save files and playthroughs
– same dated mechanics used in previous games, such as – my personal issue – overuncumbrance, but there are other mechanics that could be said as much as terrible
– skills and skill trees lack diversification: most builds will be always the same, will have same perks etc. The progression is also quite basic (kill 10 enemies etc)
– 1000 planets and there is no Alien intelligent life, seriously? Mass effect games did this MUCH better 10 years ago.
– the game engine, while it is impressive it was even able to create a game such as Starfield, it also feels like very fragile papersand, being hold with nothing but glue: it feels it can break at any moment
– loading screens >.< maybe because of the overambition, maybe because of the game engine - the DLC just added more of these same things, same problems, accentuating even more all what i just said And many other stuff. Personally, while it may seem that way, im not that critical of Starfield, i (kinda) enjoyed it for a while, there is some fun to be had, but its problems are abundantly clear: they are wide open and only a blind company could, or would, not see them. Starfield is not a bad game, its a average, ok game with some good things, well polished and some areas, but bad in many aspects, design and concept wise. I would like to return to this game one day, but then i remember all these issues and that desire just washes away.
Look, I’m not asking Bethesda to go back to Morrowind (as much as I and many would love that), but just bring back the actual RPG of your Action-RPG! Emil says people want to “live” in their world? Why can’t we do what WE want in the world? More then half of the NPCs are essential.
That’s the problem, Emil even admitted it. “As safely as possible.” NO! Playing safe is what has been ruining the modern titles. Every TES game is dumbed down from the last. Every Fallout, dumbed down from the last. Every game, ruin the lore so it’s more in line with “modern politics”. What happened to stuff like Vivek’s “spear”?
I am so tired of it, if people like Emil are in charge…they needs to be fired. If dedicated fans can make a better BGS game (FO:London) then BGS has in the last decade, that should tell you all that you need to know.
This year will be remembered for the amount of fan reactions
bethesda is the FMS Northern Star! x)
Couple of ghouls just hanging on to the wreckage and the dream…
I mean, I kind of enjoyed the dlc, but it’s way worse than the far harbour, and it’s not worth 30$ for sure. Especially in a world where Phantom liberty and Blood and wine exist.
There is nothing wrong with starfield. Yall just want perfect.
Skyrim is a junk food game with no substance, the issue is that they don’t know how to cook anymore.
It genuinely seems like the main people running Bethesda are clueless and whatever good stuff manages to sneak into their games does so despite their leadership.
Bethesda is a company run by marketing hacks who are lying their eyes out. Emil calling any of Bethesda’s contemporary titles “RPGs” speaks to Bethesda’s level of deception: there’s not an ounce of player choice in Starfield just as there was next to none in Fallout 4.
Haven’t played either, but is Starfield comparable to The Outer Worlds?
Yanno, I’m really glad you mentioned BSG’s pov.
I can empathize with the amount of effort that went into making starfield. I wholeheartedly agree that that actual product is sub optimal. But I can definitely put myself in the shoes of the guys that came in to work every day, met individual expectations, attended meetings, refined their work, etc.
It’s gotta feel bad when you go home at the end of the day, thinking that you just knocked something out of the park only to wake up the next day and start hearing that your product on masse is being ill received after you did the best you could on it.
Empathy, however, doesn’t change my mind though starfield was a shot in the dark for BSG and they didn’t hit their mark.
Wanna know what a $30 dlc should be? Look to phantom Liberty.
This garbage shattered space shouldnt have cost more that 5 bucks
I’m an old fan of Bethesda. I finished starfield, and it was a meh for me. Now, yes, I’m not a hardcore hater of the game, but it absolutely pisses me off when I think about the wasted time and energy in it while we are waiting decades for Fallout and Elderscrolls games that aren’t fallout 76.
US Corporate practice is never to accept responsibility for failings and instead frame it as unsuited to player tastes or phrase it as ‘not what our players expected’ – take Bethesda or EA response to these kind of criticisms in comparison to say Hello Games or CD Projekt Red – British and European developers who took responsibility for failures and criticisms and sought to correct it.
Bethesda is merely adopting corporate practice.
The other competitors like NMS created a different technological marvel.
There’s something to do every three steps you take on those planets.
You can fly through an cartoonish atmosphere that is so unrealistically small yet it works as a fun sci fi game.
Star Citizen seems to get the breaking through realistic yet still sci-fi atmosphere right.
EvE needs to be experienced as I cannot summarize such a game easily.
The thing is those games achieved those things already so Starfield is doing something else.
Yeah it’s a bit behind those games and people demand entertainment now!
I understand that haha.
I guess I don’t even have a good argument either way.
I comment for the algorithm then haha.
Emil needs to go. A Creative who stays in place in the same company grows lazy and complacent. Their games are dull and mediocre now, the writing is pitiful, the game mechanics are as archaic as their hopelessly dated character engine. He needs to go.
WAS a big fan of Bethesda games owning everything in multiples. EVERYTHING!!!dlc`s included. ESO and expansions twice for xbox and pc. I am WET with RAGE at their Dishonesty. I bought that horse Armor and now after Starshit, I regret doing so.
Emil is just sad for me. He’s a painfully mediocre writer who was raised up to his level of incompetence. Normally I’d be sympathetic, but he’s so completely incapable of accepting criticism, that I don’t see his writing ability ever improving. If anything, it’s getting worse as his false confidence grows like a tumor
I like starfield but it’s not great. It is literally just the other 2 games but with space. There is nothing else different. Heck they even withheld QoL upgrades that where added in the other games lol. Shattered Space was fun but it didn’t add anything really new. Not even really new items that stand out.
I told yous it was gonna be short
Bathesda should just be shut down, they never change since 2000s. Who’s at fault here, its us. We were hyping them up way too much
I’m enjoying everything apart from my Vasco and all security guards being invisible or part invisible 😂
Honestly tho, you cannot blame cdpr for dropping it in such a state, they dropped like that they were literlaly scared for their and fmailies lives, they were getting death threats because the game was taking. Long time, that is not acceptable behaviour at all, like listen we need to understand that we as gamers have a responsibility aswell. And threatening our beloved devs is not the way to go and if you cannot see that and reflect on it than you are a part of the problem in gaming
Emil needs to be BANNED from posting anything as the face of the game or company. He is incredibly toxic.
I feel like alot of these criticisms could also be applied to Xbox too.
Controversial opinion maybe, but the Fallout 3 ending would’ve been totally fine if it was written well. Fallout 1 and New Vegas would just end after the ending and it’s fine. Fallout 2 allowed people to keep playing, but there wasn’t really any content after being done with the main story, so essentially the game also ended after the end. Fallout 3 simply ending would’ve been totally fine if the writing wasn’t idiotic.
If they use the god damn creation engine one more god damn time…
Hardest game you’ve ever made does not equal best game you’ve ever made.
When are people gonna learn that bethesda sucks?
Starfield has the aesthetic of a Fine Dine Restaurant but they serving Mc Donald’s
The writing and voice acting is so bad and bland. The game is bland. No good cut scences …no nothing but bland pointless dialog
Bethesda doesn’t have to worry about how bad Starfield or Shattered Space are when they are still selling millions of copies. They won’t learn any lessons until they actually see repercussion and at this point they will likely blame anyone else but themselves.
This guy.. best game you ever made? Wat? 😂 That is the door go and DON’T COME BACK. Writer of my bumper.
This DLC is $60 AUD…
So ES6 is cooked too, since these people refuse to listen to the people who played their game.
“Most of the quests and levels were done by designers who have worked on previous Bethesda games and DLCs, going all the way back to Morrowind. They’re good at what they do, and it shows.”
*Two paragraphs later*
“Nobody, and I mean nobody, at Bethesda is patting themselves on the back while ignoring our players.”
There’s a reason that countries have presidential elections and limited terms, because sometimes a leader is only good for a certain period of time before their ways of thinking becomes outdated and backwards.
Essentially, it’s time for Todd Howard to take a step down at Bethesda. Clearly the organisation needs some fresh new ideas and a new direction. The current Bethesda is so behind the times, not only that but they have an aversion to taking risks and trying new things.
Bethesda needs new blood, all the oldheads are holding it back.
I wonder if Bethesda employees are entitled to have their own honest opionions. That dragon shout employee are talking out of his 🍑. Starfield has many great features but it is hands down the buggiest game iv’e ever played no contest. And regarding the expansion, i saw the dissaster comming so i didn’t buy it and probably never will. Btw, the pricetag of the DLC of $30 in contrast to the content really says alot about Bethesda and where their priorities are, it is obviously not to deliver a fantastic product but rather a minimal effort to make more money. Companies like that dosn’t make it for long when the fans abandon them.
I play Bethesda games DESPITE Emil’s involvement not because of. The dialogue/lore/quests are absolutely terrible in Bethesda games, often nonsensical to the setting with them constantly trying to force in their own interests (Lovecraft, Bladerunner etc).
Bethesda needs to be modded.
Since it was a bonus with the purchase I think they just released the bare minimum. Not very encouraging for Elder Scroll 6
Its actually really sad that they think they did something groundbreaking for space games for the Xbox when hellogames actually has and basically sold gamepass for a while.
See this is how you know not a single administrator in bethesda plays videogames. If they did they wouldnt dare say that and they would be sure to not say something so foolish, vain, and clearly not true.
However todd, and emil probably dont even know just how ridiculous their game is in light of no mans sky.
How it’s everything they claimed their game would be but also has been pumping out free content for almost a decade now. Something they are incapable of doing.
I think the real travesty is that no one with any power to change bethesdas trajectory was able to pull todd aside and say “hey the game you told us to make, ya i just found it in a sale bin at GameStop, dont you think its unwise to make a game that already exists?” But no we didnt get that timeline, because that would be a timeline where Bethesda employees play videogames(which they dont).
Bethesda is like a chef that doesn’t taste their own food or anyone elses snd lives off nutrient shakes. The vast majority of ppl working there are probably insufferable HR bureaucrats and boring numbers people that push papers and do meetings all day. the small amount of actual gameplaying devs certainly have zero power and no creative control.
This is an industry of people who dont play videogames, dont like videogames, dont like videogame culture, and most of all HATE videogamers. Their job is to make videogames, not for videogamers though, no. They are made for stock market share holders lol. Games made by anti gamers for anti gamers. No matter how much actual gamers try to chime in they plug their ears and say “what would you know?” Lol. As if to tell a customer that sent their overdone steak back that “they dont know anything about cooking or what constitutes medium rare, cooking is hard and you’re not qualified enough to talk on it. You are simply mistaken”
The entire thing is like some sorta bizzare cargo-cultesque vanity buisness venture from a cyberpunk dystopia book that is meantto be ironic lol. I am just glad these giant “videogame” simulacrum printers that have been running for decades now with no purpose or intrinsic higher calling to the actual industry, just pumping away and prining ever less convincing copies of games they think might be the thing they are supposed to be making(like somesorta videogame BLAME!) Is finally starting to collapse now that they have all run out of equity built off of from good will. The sooner ubisoft/EA/bethesda fall the sooner real artists and gamers can get a crack at these IP’s.
DEI índices brainrot.
14:41 Still pisses me off. My current install of FO4 is bugged for some reason, and I can’t validate the files through Steam either, because it’ll just update everything again. I don’t have blazing fast, stable internet.
It would be a lot easier if Steam’s beta function allowed rolling back to the previous version. If anyone still wants to play FO4, get it from GOG, last I heard they still got the previous version.
Plus I what some of the stuff there Smoking they must be the most out of touch studio to date
“something has gone bad at BGS”
Man ,did everyone forget the whole gaslighting campaign for Fallout 76 ?
The rot has been there since Skyrim, they took it to their head that they are the best since they could serve you the same shit 6 time and people will still buy .
But Fallout 76 ? They lied on every fucking instance ,added a subscriptiong and microtransaction, PUNISHED PLAYER FOR MODDING , but then every game they are relying on modder
They went from having fan support their game to RELYING on fan fixing and supporting their game
their whole “uh noo we listen to our player” is another layer of gaslighting they have abused since Fallout 4
Don’t be fooled
Don’t buy their shit
Luke throw that candle in the Bin it’s obvious Bethesda is no more, Todd needs sacking with Emil and the whole cloud 9 Team
I see through all their PR approved messages.
When they say “richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine”, I see simply biggest in file size or simple content likie barren planets and radient quests. When they say “unique fanbase”, I see ” not at all loved like other games”.
“Starfield is a technical marvel”, yeah, made with their new engine, which is far more advanced, obviously.
“In a lot of way best game we’ve ever made”, “best” can mean many different things, but do not translate to a good game.
Alle these statements do not telegraph any intention in fixing the game or actually making the game better in where it counts for the players. It’s a total PR dodge maneuver.
Responding to user feedback by saying that your game is not for everyone, while being funded by a company as massive as Bethesda, with a dwindling number of people attempting to play your objectively lacklustre game is peak modern gaming
Bethesda the ultimate toxic relationship
The only best thing they have done is integrating ng+ to the story. I dont know if its done on any other game.
Luke is late again.
Starfield ruined by the Series S
Defending something indefensible is a reputation killer, and it’s good to see people starting to wake up to that fact
Petition to change the game name to Midfield
aint nothing wrong with starfield.. what are you all talking about.. i realy dont get the hate, but yeah new times, young folk, never played morrowind.. so hate big dog, everyone loves the underdog…
There are always those people who defend these games and devs. But the true fans want more from these games devs, we love these games and we get annoyed and upset when the next version doesn’t meet expectations. We want them to be better.
The alternative is when we stop caring, when we become apathetic to your games we won’t even cheer when your company goes belly up.
I hope their good will runs out before the elder scrolls 6 comes out and that they learn from it. Else we’ll see the exact same problem with that game
“New IP”?!, maybe they haven’t played No Man’s Sky yet.
“and alot of fans aspecting this to be the big moment starfield could break free…” ye well you deserved what you got if you bought it. hey dont care how many angry comments you make, they dont care how many vids you made, they care about your money and if you buy shit the will make shit because its cheaper.
I loved starfield and the dlc. Ive loved all the fallouts from before bethesda even owned them, but i didnt like fallout 4. I still have some of the dlc to finish on it.
That “DLC” should had been for free. This game was a disappointment.
Wasn’t Emil the one who tried to retcon Fallout 4 by saying Nate was a war criminal. If so then I truly dont believe he cares about the fans.
I think its fairly alarming that Bethesda aren’t taking criticism more seriously. The game needs a bit of surgery to become an experience which could rival Skyrim. I think there is a real lack of unique content in it, Betheda’s “handcrafted” stuff is 9 times out of 10, genuinely very good. But they’ve relied on procedural generation far too much, and then in terms of loot like spacesuits there isn’t anything. The Mantis suit, and the shitty easter egg from Earth. Thats it. The Crimson Fleet, Vanguard and all of the factions should have got a unique armour set which was different to the normal faction armour that was avaliable.
The game is painfully vanilla, and needs a hell of a lot more added to it to become something they can honestly say they’re proud of with a straight face and folk to not think they’re lying through their teeth.
Bethesda is tone deaf. It’s only a matter of time before the studio collapses completely or is dismantled by Microsoft.
i feel bethesda has gotten complancent and still think they have golden hand while refusing to actually listen to the players and evolve with the industry. their games have always been dated at release but its getting worse.
It is so weird to see how many big AAA-Studios are caugth up in delusion and arrogance nowadays. They are so disconnected from their playerbase and i do not really know why?
How do they interpret their own successes in the past that wrong?
Is it because of AI driven analytics that are straigth up wrong? Or are they so full of themselves that they really belive what they say? It is worring
I’m starting to doubt ES6 is gonna be anything to look forward to anymore. With the stuff Bathesda’s been releasing and saying… At this rate we’re better off just gonna have to rely on another game studio to create something unique and worth our money.
It’s actually not that hard to make a good game, the hard thing is lugging through the bureaucracy and forced identity politics to make a good game.
They lost nick and so now they cant do the cool environmental story telling that fallout was famous for, their quests are boring, make you cringe, and totally devoud of inspiration. Like there are endless possibilities in space for quirky stories of mad science experiments gone amok, rogue AI’s and the ethics of it, divergent human life, interesting physics based story premises like blackhole time distortion…like i can think up a 100 quests more compelling right now and yet…nothing, not even one…its just boring people problems…not even set dressed interesting…wtf is going on
can someone please go and unplug the copium tanks from the ventilation system at bethesda.
There’s nothing wrong
With the game. Play No Man’s Sky…
Emil: Shh, Mass Effect doesn’t exist.
It’s funny to think we entered a timeline where Star citizen may release in 1.0 before Elder scroll 6
To any game dev or studio head, I’ll just say this:
passion =/= good product
Every time Emilywatching’s speaks publically the hurtful the company. He is awful at PR. Arrogant, delusional and always admits to his lazyness and ego when speaking publically (remember when he confirmed they don’t make a design document?)
It’s remarkable that Ford keeps letting him get away with doing these interviews that hurt the company every single time.He has done this for decades.they stopped doing behind the scene podcasts with Skyrim because emo admitted they wait for Kids to fix the game and add mechanics they were too lazy to do, even though a dev added third tools in a week during a mod jam.
Growing up, I had a favorite game studio/publisher, because it was a mark of quality and good games. EA used to be that. Then around 2000, they fell off. Bethesda filled that roll as Morrowind was great. There were others, but each has shown to not care for making great games but to just chase the charts. Very similar, Gary Numan did the same thing and his music got REAL boring real quick. Then he changed his philosophy and is back “up there” again. I just don’t have a studio to help me find quality games and that’s just sad. I’m 42 now and I don’t have much time left to “build a relationship” like that again.
I defended Starfield when it first came out and I was sadly mistaken. I stopped after 50 hours. I haven’t played it in a year and won’t pick it back up. It’s literally a loading screen simulator and for a space game, that completely breaks any immersion. What’s the point of having a ship besides the combat? The fact the devs and Todd think that this a masterpiece says all I need to know. They should take notes from Hello Games but they are too arrogant to accept it’s not good.
Stop blowing Todd Howard, it’s not 2011 anymore.
There is absolutely nothing great or groundbreaking about starfield. This is not the biggest space rpg. Anyone from Bethesda GO PLAY ELITE DANGEROUS. THATS THE BIGGEST MAP I HAVE EVER SEEN. NOT A 1000 PLANETS, A WHOLE FUKKING GALAXY WITH INFINITE PLANETS AND STARS. Pls be quiet take the loss and move along.
I really don`t like how he pushes “oh, but it is decent by consolexbox standards” message.
Like dude, if you have to hide behind console`s lower standards and lack of choices to make up for deficiencies of a game – you are sending a really bad signal. I am not gonna treat your 100$ product by console`s standards, when I buy it for my PC.
Dudes really making another video about startled 😂. After you drop a 8 hour critique that should be you done. Stop milking your hate group of fans
Confused why it takes them so long to make games , if stuff like starfield is what we get out of many many many years of development, that’s scary , starfield feels like Ai could of designed it.
its like they dont know what their fans want
If ES6 is bad I think BGS might legitimately be in trouble
I mean, a decade ago, CD Projekt Red did ‘Heart of Stone’ and ‘Blood & Wine’ for The Witcher 3. *THOSE* were Expansions.
Then they did ‘Phantom Liberty’ for Cyberpunk 2077. *THAT* was an expansion.
Neither could be casually finished in a couple of hours.
What Bethesda did is the bare minimum. And THEN they make OUTLANDISH claims like “it’s the best space RPG” or “it’s out best game” or “you guys are expecting too much”.
Like, I dunno, expecting something kinda as good as a game that came out nearly a decade ago doesn’t sound that insane to me.
The DLC is ok. The €30 price tag isn’t! That’s a €10 DLC tops!
Because its not an RPG
What’s irritating is that if the Devs actually played the game before release, the bugs are right there! .The customer doesn’t play any different to them, obvious bugs…broken games on release it’s not acceptable. This industry needs a tough regulator, that issues crippling fines for unfinished games.
16:20 true! Starfield is the only bethesda game I ever refunded and my steam account is turning 19 years old next month… Fall out 4 is my fav single player fps game ever and I would have loved to enjoy starfield but that is just not possible when the game isnt even comparable to fall out 3 in terms of almost everything!
Are regular Bethesda employees under an nda? I want to hear what the regular employees think about all this. I want to hear from the people that actually worked on this project, and I want to know what they think about their management. I would love for someone to set up something like this.
Go ahead and say it. Juicehead and MrMatty are the Bethesda shills that couldn’t even defend this garbage.
Bethesda lost me after fallout 76, the lag of stuff beside the dayli grind. Were are all the vault`s and the lore on them ??
I’m buying ES6 when it’s 75% off on Steam or pirating and idc. EDIT: I will never buy another BGS game at launch until they prove me wrong.
First time I opened their creator menu and saw paid mods I felt so bad for them. They rly think I’m gonna pay for mods 😂
Why are we all pretending, their job is to extract as much money as possible. They want us to consume slop, it’s easy and cheap don’t say they don’t understand. They absolutely do.
TES6 is going to suck ass when it arrives in 2032…
Vote with your wallet, folks.
I really tried to play the game cause i liked the concept they put into the game, WHAT A BAD IDEA omg. I can’t even finish major side quests cause of bugs and structures disappearing. At least they could’ve fixed the bugs ffs.
Yes, yes, “Starfield”.
Anyways, that there is a $1400 Titus figure…
Doing well on YouTube lately I see.
have you thought about the fact the $7 quest isnt that but a weapon n skins for $7 with a short quest to get them ( how many other games have this? loads n you n others dont complain so double standars much
Not even trying to be a hater, but tf did you do with your hair Luke
So, BGS is in denial. What else is new?
Build from the ground up, sure… People who played it more realized that the lore is lackluster, story is shallow and boring.
My take is only focusing on the mechanics and systems type and coming together in gameplay. And is not something new for Bethesda. For the large majority are copy paste from their older games.
And it would not be a bad thing if done correctly, to take the best parts and add those in and improve on them and such. But what we have with Starfield are overall worse results. Same ideas, same approaches, implemented in ways that are worse, seem stripped of their flavor the systems in older games had.
I wanted a world to sink in, was hoping for a space age sandbox to play with different systems. But it’s not a believable world. Gave me the same claustrophobic sentiment as when i played The Outer Worlds. Not the open space living world like in other space related games such as No Mans’s Sky, Elite Dangerous, X4 Foundations, Starpoint Gemini Warlords, Rebel Galaxy and Outlaws. I just wanted more than those. An experience at an individual level akin to Freelancer and Gothic put together. Do stuff in space but also on planets. Good enough combat and economy like they have in Fallout and Skyrim, but you know, improved a bit, brought up to date with maybe some additional options and better animations. And a focus on the grand scheme of things with factions doling their thing and me as the player be able to be part of any of those or not, to make them friends or enemies, to influence diplomacy between them as a representative or leader or from the shadows.
Like a said, a sandbox. One where you can play large at level of big groups interaction or small being completely alone. A social playground with some combat and economy that’s nice on the eyes and hopefully doesn’t break my PC and runs smooth, stable 60fps being minimum bar of acceptance. But a game that’s still somewhat full of lore and stories and activities and interactions in a way that doesn’t seem copy pasted, to have variation and some main story paths.
What we got with Starfield doesn’t seem the work of a big Studio with history but rather something from a small indie startup. Not a nice AAA but rather a mediocre AA. So maybe they would had got less crap if they would had not advertised it as it’s more than what it is and would had price it accordingly. Starfield is at most a 20-25$ game.
I’m a BGS fan that has play their games since Morrowind. There have been ups and downs, but I had a good time in each game. Then Starfield came out and was an utter disappointment. The joy for exploration that their game had just wasn’t there anymore. Sadly it has curbed any excitement I had for ES6. Their games are now on my wait for reviews list.
Dude, Hearts of Stone for Witcher 3? It’s phenomenal, sure… Yet it still pales in comparison to Blood and Wine.
Bethesda has been relying too much on modders for their past games’ success and longevity so they thought they could do the same with Star Field.
Games were better when crunch was a thing haha
For real, I work in a warehouse, and in some times of the year, we have a lot of extra work to do, we could go on 10 to 12 hours a day, 6x a week, for a few weeks to get everything done, and we never called it “crunch”.
It’s overtime, we get paid, that’s it.
Game devs need to stop that shit that they can’t do overtime, they’re getting way more money than people who actually do physical work.
I’m not a Bethesda fan. I’ve played their games since Fallout 3, I even played Fallout 76 for a time. The only game I come back to is New Vegas, which wasn’t done by them but by Obsidian Entertainment.
Honestly? They’ve been costing off IP recognition. Starfield was the point that more and more people realised they just aren’t that good at making compelling RPG titles. Hell they don’t really make RPGs either, you get three choices; kill the child, save the child, sarcastically save the child.
There was a time when studios would put out a full game after one year/ Not that that was the best practice but if they had done half that work in that year it would have been a great DLC amd fantastic addition to the Starfield
I got to the first planet after escaping and never played again. I spent more time in character creation than the actual game. Biggest space simulation game???? Heads in the sand… Seriously?
Are they really trying the toxic positivity thingy on us? Nah they can do way better. Starfield is dog
Don’t say they spent a year building, it’s content cut out of the main game..
Im a BSG fan. Ive bought all the big expansions wether its for Oblivion/FO3/Skyrim/ or FO4. I also, bought the $100 dollar version of starfield to get early access because i love BSG games put 150 hours into it and its still insanely mid while it does have passion its just too big and they ruined the settlement building somehow. I hope they get back on the right path but it seems most companies suck now an days.
“Spent a year” – they didn’t spend a year, they got done snorting blow and realized they had to make the DLC they promised over a year ago. Then they made this overpriced side-quest and presented it like an amazing achievement of creativity. It is LITERALLY as shallow as many modder-created quests for a unique item. Full-stop, Bethesda devs and Todd have no damned clue what they’re doing nor how this has ruined expectations for anything else they make.
Elden ring dlc 40 euro 40+ hours of content starfield expansion 5 hours for 30 euros yeah cool stuff gotta love greedy developers
You know how chill i feel down my spine when i first heard the word Sierra Madre in Dead Money dlc? Not happening in any BGS dlc game at all.
It makes me sad to see BGS and Bethesda ruining themselves.
Once they were my favorite Developers and Publishers. That was the time when they dropped:
– Dishonored (+Add Ons), Dishonored 2 + Death of the Outsider
– Wolfenstein: Old Blood, Wolfenstein: New Order, Wolfenstein: New Colossus
– Doom 2016
– Prey (Reboot)
– TES V: Skyrim (+Add Ons)
– Fallout 4 (+Add Ons)
– Evil Within (Maybe? I don’t play Horror Games)
– Fallout Shelter
– TES: Online (Solid)
But something went terribly wrong over the years. Between a lot of trash only some beacon of lights remain:
– Wolfenstein: Youngblood, Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot (Trash)
– TES: Blades (Trash)
– Ghostwire Tokyo (okay)
– Fallout 76 (First trash, now okay)
– Deathloop (okay, but I don’t like roguelikes)
– Doom Eternal (Epic)
– High Fi Rush (Epic)
– Redfall (Epic fail)
– Starfield (Trash)
– TES: Castles (Will be trash)
– Indiana Jones: And the great circle (Looks promising)
Biggest Space Game on Xbox. Elite Dangerous has been out on Xbox for ages and is a tiny bit bigger
The phrase Emil slop is accurate people that defend that are probably the same people that clap there hands at star wars key jingle cameos too
Starfield has such cool lore but they fail to flesh it out, especially with shattered space.
Emil was being biased when talking about Fallout 3, what fans of the time were complaining about was that the ending literally made no sense. You have multiple companions like Fawkes or Charon who can perfectly withstand the radiation from the water purifier but refuse to activate it.
“It just works”
I still like Bethesda, but I think it’s time for them to update their engine.
Just fire Todd Howard
Dunno if I just haven’t seen enough, but I feel like Hearts of Stone is very underrated especially because Blood and Wine was so massive. Nice to see it be acknowledged.
Imagine ES6 were tone down and become just a hack and slash game filled with fetch quest that AI generated.
Bethesda,sadly is a has been and a bit embarrassing now.
I’ve never tried to like a game so much. But they just completely missed the mark with the souless procedurally generated planets.
I’m here just wishing for the experiences of Morrowind and Oblivion in a nicer shell. But BGS never even wanna make a nicer game engine and they just slimline and cut away all the most interesting parts of their gameplay. The RPG is really not there anymore at all in their games.
I really hate it when bigwigs can’t take the L. You screwed up and it’s okay, shit happens, move along and do better.
It’s also something I really disliked about Concord’s closing statement, “while many qualities of the game resonated with players…” it resonated with 5 people. Take the L already.
You are 100% right on them milking their players. I saw 76 for free on xbox once and tried it out. It is insane that they charge 13/month or 100/year for unlimited storage for junk and ammo. Also a tent you can place almost anywhere for a free travel (travel costs caps). And every server is full of people who have it. Its basically a necessity in order not to have an aneurism while playing.
I hate it when people compare the apple to a tree and in this game compare one game with another. I love Starfield for what it is. I hate metacritics. If you are bored that is fine but don’t make a game look bad. If you really want to compare it the go for no man sky. At first it sucks (when it launches) but then becomes the best game ever to be played. If you keep talking on how bad the game is then it will never improve as the developers will stop working on it or get fired/let go and there will NEVER be improvements to the game.
I never played any Bethesda games but heard a lot of good things about Skyrim. Compare Todd Howard to Hideo Kojima. Kojima games are all good.
It’s fucking Bethesda, *everyone* has played Skyrim and Fallout at this point. “You didn’t even play it” isn’t an excuse, if we didn’t play it, it’s because it looks like slop.
If Emil and Todd still work at BGS I’m not buying anything they make.
I got 100 hours in starfield, a good 15 of them would be loading screens. Yes I finished all main story and factions. So I reinstaled ot, spent 4 hours in the DLC only to find out that its the same slop and it looked like a cut piece from release version. Finished the dlc, uninstalled and I will never go back to it. Nolvus v6 for skyrim is on the horizon.
Emil’s ego is by this point a separate entity thats sitting next to him. Starfield is a bad game, its just a fact and since its Bethesda, the sequel will come out long after Emil has gone (more) senile in a retirement home so it might have a chance.
Since DEI bs started, AAA western game began to go downhill, full of toxic positivity and a bunch of people who want to push their mental illness on everyone, but are extremely offended if you don’t want to run with it.
There’s no other explanation, loads of games are being made by people who either care exclusively about agendas and making money from the players.
Games that aren’t doing that BS are being very successful.
Those temu adverts were abit sus 😂
it’s so strange to me that some people really thought that if the base game is shit… or at least very mediocre, that the expansion is would be better. Why would that be the case? I mean i get that there might be some gamers that still belive when a corporation tweets out a “we hear you loud and clear” type of tweets, but why would their mentality and attitude suddenly change?
after all the shitty ass games, after all the evidence that Todd is a shit game developers and has ALWAYS been, you people still put him on a pedestal, you even have a candle!!
the good games from bethesda exist DESPITE TODD, D E S P I T E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for your video. i have played 525.6 hrs on starfield. i did find the Shattered Space dlc short. i would like to see Starfield made in a multiplayer version of 76. once the story is complete it’s totally open world. one where you can be who you want to be, Trader, Pirate, etc. this would rise Starfield even further. but that’s just what i would like to see. having played Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen where there is no story line and you choose your path. but i love Starfield and what they are trying to do but it needs more. come on Tom Howard multiplayer.
game studios with many ips should be forced to lease them out to smaller studios. they are hogging the ip and only releasing 5-10 years. i also dont particularly want BSG to do another Fallout. Games Workshop does the same, that’s why they have new games coming out nonstop.
At this point just give us a new fallout game. We dont give af about starfield anymore we want a good new fallout game along with season 2 of the show
It is their best game because for a lot of them Starfield was their first game. The teams that made Bethesda great haven’t been with the company for a long time and the ones that remain have proved past successes was in spite of not because of them.
“No, no you just have to give it 100+ hours for it to click” “But that is SUPPOSED to be bad, thatis why we like Bethesda” “But real space is empty and boring”. Bethesda Fanboys
Hyping this game would be like hyping joe biden. Its a dead horse
People on the internet: ‘Arggh why doesnt everyone hate starfield like i do, im going to spend my time convincing people they shouldnt play it’
Some gamers are absolute babies.
Cringefield. No desire to play the expansion.The dialogue made me cringe at first but I continued. When the terrormorph started speaking cringe at me? I did the same as I did with Fallout 4’s twist – I uninstalled. Too much cringe that I’d prefer to have my ears up to a chalk board.
Bethasda will be the next Ubisoft… Take my word for it!… 🤗
The biggest thing they could do is hire a community manager and open up about the whys. Like coffee stain studios with satisfactory. Admit the mistakes and what they will do about it and if not why not explaining priorities. So expectations get reeled back. Like they won’t fix fallout 4. Because… time… nobody has a clue…we don’t want to… fans don’t want us to…
Still waiting for them to fix the face gen bug with my playthrough of sim settlements on their most powerful console..
Imagine a dev veteran telling you “Stanfield is the best thing he made”.. 😅😅
I could be way off base here but as Bethesda is part of Zenimax and now Microsoft, they’re a publicly traded company. If someone like Emil or Todd came out and said “Yeah we messed up and it sucked” and the stock dropped I don’t think that would be great for their careers. All I expect from these guys is corporate PR speak regardless of how well the games are received. It does say something that even Pete Hines retired rather than stay on and defend this mess though.
They tried to copy No Man’s Sky, and they failed miserably. HelloGames did it first. How dense are people?
I’m 419 hours into playing Starfield and I played Shattered Space. Starfield’s largest flaw is exploration of planets. Everything is randomly generated. The landscape shape, the placement of flora and fauna, and the placement of structures is random. It feels hollow. Especially when you enter your 4th Research Tower and realize every tower is the same as the others. Enemy and loot placement are the same. The layout is identical. The only variation is the type of enemy you run into. Maybe instead of an apple sitting on the table, it’ll be an orange. Every starship crash site is an exact copy of the others. Not even a Variant A, B, or C. The only good thing it has going for it is some of the faction quests are great and Starship building is fun too.
Shattered Space was a step in the right direction. The landscape was likely generated and then tweaked by the devs to customize it. The local map you explore feels more like an actual Bethesda game where there are trails and roads connecting structures instead of stuff just being placed in the middle of nowhere. The story is short, the characters all blend together and don’t stand out at all. Some of the dialog that gives you some lore is boring. Like listing to a monotone voice give a speech boring.
Some of the hate is Bethesda fans wanting TES6 instead of Starfield. We’ve been waiting 13 years for TES6 and it’s been sitting on a back burner for years because of this game. The only reason I have as many hours into it as I do is due to mods fixing some of the game. But the flaws are so deeply engrained into the game that I don’t know if the developers themselves could fix it. Things like traveling in space is basically just loading screens.
I swear to god if it’s just another round of “you’re playing it wrong” I’m gonna hurt myself.
All this has me wondering- what if Bethesda had delivered Starfield in a few “chunks”, start with 15-20 systems, still have the conflicts going on but spend more time on each system and give it the more handmade than not treatment. Then expand the galaxy for the second part, etc. I don’t think it would solve the loading screen issue, but perhaps the content might have been a lot better? Ah, what if. I don’t know if Todd has the right people to save Bethesda anymore, so many talented folks are gone.
Frankly, I think BGS has stagnated. They’re doing he same things over and over. “…it’s the best game we’ve ever made”. Someone is really suffering from delusions of grandeur. I just don’t see how he can claim that Starfield is super immersive. The companions(and most characters) are quite 1 dimensional. As far as rpg…I guess it technically is, but barely. That whole interview piece comes off as utterly tone-deaf. ….Also, yes- that interview was TOTALLY patting themselves on the back while ignoring players.
BGS will never get any better if they refuse to admit to the shortcomings of Starfield. I have well over 400 hours in the game and even *I* have a laundry list of issues with it. Shattered space feels like it was just content they cut from the base game to make it “a dlc”. Barely any new weapons or gear, reused creature assets(and pretending they weren’t), no new companion…they will argue that they gave us TWO WHOLE COMPANIONS! except the people you can hire to work on your ship are NOT “companions”. They have no personal quests and hardly any dialogue. I was a big defender of Starfield at first but I’m done…I can’t keep defending BGS when they refuse to acknowledge their failings. I’m actually angry about Shattered Space. It was a flat-out rip-off.
Everything that is wrong with Bethesda’s modern output was present as far back as Oblivion, and set in stone by Skyrim. They were poorly designed buggy messes, full of bad ideas and even worse execution on those ideas. But you all gave it a pass.
If people were as critical of BGS way back then as they pretend to be now, maybe things would have gone differently. You people (sycophant apologists who have the audacity to act surprised by the way things have gone) have only yourselves to blame. You did this. Bethesda just followed the money and ignorant praise, _your_ money and praise.
They shouldve just designed 2 – 3 solar systems by hand and built a solid stiry from that instead of going for procedurally generated worlds. Hundreds of them…..all the same with identical caves and abandoned stations. Once i entered the exact same cave on a different planet, I uninstalled the game and waved goodbye to £60…
Woke and Broke. Bring back the whiteboard of deathmarch. They are not driving their employees.
The reality is that starting with FO3, BGS character writing was meh, the main storylines mediocre, their games were buggy and only corrected by the modding community. However, the environmental storytelling and exploration were first-rate and with it created a game experience that was new and unmatched for the time
The problem for BGS is that it is no longer 2008-2015, and other studios have upped the ante on story, writing, and animations. Starfield, without environmental story telling or engrossing exploration, falls flat as it relies on those areas that BGS were deficient in 15 years ago; and is even more glaring apparent today in comparison to its peer titles, like Cyberpunk, Elder Scrolls, and BG3.
yeah fallout 3 just ending was bad because 1) it was too short, and 2) i still had a ton of other unfinished things to do!
Bethesda hasn’t made any good games since Skyrim in 2012. I think its fair to say its about time to close the casket on this one. Bethesda magic has become Bethesda necromancy.
I’m wondering for the longest time before it came out why there’s only 1000 planets, their quality would be special so you can’t make infinite alternates of them? Oh there isn’t and the DLC didn’t change that you’ve got to be a special needs kind of out of touch developer to make that kind of blunder. An enbarassment, it could have been a single planet and moon with the endgame being warp drive DLC but instead you add Sovngarde to Daggerfall with no extra dungeon latouts to it’s RNG dungeons, pathetic!
What you been looking at on Temu, dude??
I have to disagree with your take on what players want from Bethesda games (at least personally…) and I couldn’t be more surprised to find Pagliarulo’s explanation to be nearly perfect. And perhaps I have a single example to describe why… making a “Drow” elf in Skyrim, using Scimitars (actively bad) and very minimal spells (actively bad) in order to fill the class fantasy of creating potions and guarding the bards of the world that ~I specifically~ wanted, and that had NOTHING to do with being a Dragonborn or the current civil war.
Skyrim ALLOWED me to do that in a way that virtually no other game has ever done. And if I’m honest, I’m kind of reliving that experience as we speak in Fallout 4… playing a genuinely dark/evil character for the first time in my entire life! And that is despite that games pretty awful writing.
I think he couldn’t be more accurate at Bethesda not initially having this outlook, but having now found ways to embrace it with mod culture?!
All that being said, I still have not purchased Starfield mainly because I’m on a 7yr old rig as it is, and am just not sure I could run it as it is really intended to be seen, and several of the characters actually put me off. But I will probably own and play it one day.
“the best game we’ve ever made”
is this guy gaslighting? because if he isn’t then he has to be the most delusional person i’ve ever seen. he acts like there isn’t a whole section in their library of games that have been widely praised and won multiple awards, Prey, Doom 2016, fallout 3, MORROWIND ffs need I say more? like I ask myself, is this really the new standard for bethesda? copy paste randomly generated buildings you’ll see a hundred times? leveling systems that don’t impact gameplay in meaningful ways? Npc’s that all have the same dull personalities? stories so boring you play music over them? what a joke.
Starfield is a jack of all trades master of none space game. Not the worst, but not great either.
Honestly I enjoy Starfield… It’s very flawed that’s for sure yet it still gives me that good old Bethesda games feeling at times… that being said i hope updates and support for the game not only continue but get better
BSG are a ‘thatta Do’ company. FO4 was the last game I paid from this company, and that was a let down.
I feel like people are talking too much shit about Bethseda nowadays. You don’t get to force a developer to make what you want, which this is what it all feels like, at this point. Don’t like their stuff? Don’t buy it or request refunds. It’s that simple. Since when are they slaves to a community? Okay, rant aside, Starfield is gorgeous, the art direction is great, the music is great. HOWEVER, Starfield is buggy (like all of their games, I’m okay with that as long as they’re not gamebreaking,) the content is lackluster (the DLC just added reskined weapons and clothes,) and the systems that are in place are too few and shallow. I would have at least expected one new vehicle and 10-20 new ship HABS (not components.)
Bethesda respons remind me of a time when WoW developers put their head in the sand and it nearly killed WoW. I hope BGS will learn from their mistakes and give as banger games again
more like Sharted Space amirite
What?!?! A “technical marvel”??????? Dude it has more loading screens than an average PS2 game… Delusional is not even the word. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Emil’s statement just goes to show how he fundamentally misunderstands what makes a game good. It isn’t how complex the systems are under the hood or how difficult it was to make, its whether or not the game is FUN. That is really all that matters at the end of the day and any developer who forgets that has lost the plot.
I hate to say it, but as long as its BGS – ES6 is DOA.
I think they’re afraid of being shut down. Microsoft owns them now. They’re a big numbers company. I’m not saying it’s a good thing but they are now subject to the same rules as other game studios under Microsoft!
If Bethesda only keeps focusing on the positive feedback they’ll never learn to progress. Only criticism keeps growth alive.
technical marvel it is not my guy
They should of called it Shattered Dreams.
He forgot that he is making a product
Emil is NOT an OG, he’s Jonny Come-Lately hired because he was friends with Todd. He had one success (Brotherhood questline in Oblivion) as an associate writer and a series of failures (everything he’s done since) as head writer. Also, he’s the one blaming everyone else for not liking his piss poor offerings.
Edit: Emil completely missed the point of the complaint about the ending of Fallout 3. It wasn’t that the players “didn’t want to die and play for ever” it was because there are _TWO_ companions that are _completely immune_ to radiation who could have done the final task and _NO_ reason for them _not_ to except that Emil is bad at his job and insisted that the player must die.
I love how SkillUp actually defended that “Best Game we’ve ever made” comment by explaning what he actually meant, the rest of you are just taking it at face value!
Bro Bethesda is cackling hilarious right now. Its extremely obvious they aren’t feeling any financial repercussions of Starflop. Microsoft is though, because they own them. Literally everyone responsible for Starfield being so extremely sub-par, is sitting pretty on that $8 million buyout.
Also hilarious that the Xbox magazine is giving the DLC such a high rating as if both companies don’t have the same boss.
The gaming industry is so funny when you look at it closely 😂
Praise Todd, shart on starfield though.
Far harbor kills it for me. they’ve DONE better. They’ve done _so_ much better. Hell, Nukaworld was better. There’s almost an argument that Automotron was better DLC. At least that _added_ something.
Far harbor is a better game, in every sense, than the entire game of starfield. In every possible sense. If they had released Far Harbor as fallout 5, it would have been _less_ disappointing than starfield.
The truth is BSG is over, they are not going to make great games again, BSG is on the same path as UBISOFT, they just don’t know it yet, and anyone who continues buying BSG games needs to get their mind checked.
the entire shattered space expansion looked like less content than a patch in genshin impact that genshin puts out 8 a year.
The basic concept of Starfield is fantastic, and the potential is enormous, but Bethesda f-ed it up big time. I do not believe the potential will ever be realized. Bethesda is not capable.
I would excuse the outdated engine, the horrible facial animations, the mostly mediocre missions etc, but I can not stomach encountering the same planetary bases, with the same loot, the same enemies, in the same places, a thousand times on different planets. It drives me mad. It is beyond boring. It liquifies the brain.
Please Bethesda, if you do anything to repair your game, please, please, add more variation. Spend a year with all your devs to do nothing else than create new planetary base types, or develop a procedural generation method to create the bases for you. Just ADD f*cking VARIATION for f’cks sake.
Regardless of how you feel about CDPR after the CP2077 launch, with expansions like Shattered space, it’s hard not to reflect on blood and wine, Hearts of Stone an Phantom liberty and realize that there is a clear distinction when it comes to a project that devs are proud of and passionate about and projects that devs clearly aren’t. It’s hard not to draw that conclusion with BGS, at least, for me it is.
Idk, I really like starfield. I’m addicted honestly. Just got into the game recently. Played tf out of skyrim and fallout, witcher, fromsoft games, etc. starfield has its issues and definitely does some recycling in the content but I really find myself enjoying the game. I think the ship play and building is very good even for vanilla
Renfail Bethesda apologist extraordinaire. Keep in mind he can’t do enough research to pronounce Luke’s name correctly, but he had a million excuses for slop.
RIP Bethesda RPGs. At least their doom games are amazing.
I know a lot of people point the finger at Todd Howard and rightly so but Emil is the biggest issue at BGS imo. The games will never improve while he is still in charge and unfortunately he isn’t going anywhere unless Todd is gone
Y u gotta be so negetive bro?
I mean I get that it’s not a good game….but when u say that u didn’t like the game and finished it in 5 hours…..the devs can also say they tried their best and made a game they loved…..
Imagine first trailer for TES6. “From the creators of Starfield.” I’m going to be like – nope you’ve just lost me.
That Emil guy is one of the real weak links in the Bethesda chain. No one with any notable talent would even LIE the way he is praising his extremely mediocre game. Bethesda needs to reshuffle the entire personnel deck for any success to occur again in the future.
I love space stuff, Starfield was exactly my cup of tea, it was just some really weak ass tea that someone sharted in.
the day of released i saw plent of bathesda fans come out and say it was great, then given after a few days, i want to say 2, they came out and said “actually, now that i fully played it…… it was kind of s**t.” i think its because of the paid mods bathesda has made, instead of focusing purely on the dlc…. smh.
bethesda has been late at the party for so many years. even skyrim had bad models and animations, horrible facial expressions, lame combat swinging with no punch. many studios have crushed it and show how bethesda is outdated. es6 might be the last nail in the coffin.
Starfield is a joke. NOT a big franchise.
I think a lot of people who bought Starfield and the SS DLC at launch found out to late that Starfield is an empty shell of what we were hyped up to expect. We couldn’t get a refund on Steam by the time this realization happened. When TES6 comes out Bethesda maybe very disappointed with the sales numbers, people may wise up and not pre order the game. Instead we may wait until a week after launch and watch game play reviews before deciding on making a purchase. I hope this happens because gone are the days of trusting Bethesda about anything.
From being hype on future games of Bethesda (Fallout V, TES 6) up to I dont care about the TES 6 and Fallout 5 Anymore, How quick the tables have been turned.
Meanwhile, Im being hype on what’s FromSoft Devs have in mind for their future games. This feeling gave me surreal hype after playing Dark Souls trilogy for the first this Year and now Im currently Playing Elden Ring for the first time. Sure I have numerous frustrations upon beating bosses from Soul of Cinder DS3 to Right now this Tree Sentinel im currently facing, I just did atleast it didnt made me fell asleep upon playing
I love Bethesda. I own every single game from them. But Starfield both with Fallout 76 don’t belong here. It’s like we’ve lost all those years after Fallout 4 for them to get worse and worse to the point I don’t know who they are anymore.
Phantom liberty would have been so much better with shack building.
To bad many of the “not for everybody ” people actually bought it. And if they are unlucky they bought premium with this “DLC” included. So yea, not for everybody but at least they got their money.
The only department in BGS that done amazing job with Starfield is…Marketing
I’m terrified they don’t release Fallout 5, but instead just shit out lazy remakes of 3, 4, and NV. And I’d have to ignore them all because the mods on the originals will still make better games.
Emil is the embodiment of “Am I out of touch? No, the kids are wrong.” meme.
Bethesda needs a new game engine!
It feels like they are so hyped about their own game, because they look at old aaas engine with thoughts like “no way it still works, we are ao pog to make a mod on fallout in space, and it somehow works!”
Why do you say “Thank God”? It’s pronounced “Thank Tod”.
As soon as I finished shattered space on xbox…the game broke..every save corrupted and the game crashes to home screen after a hour play in a new save…and I’m back on vectera..even if I manually save often
No other game has this issue..just starfield
So now I can’t play this or fallout 4…I’m done
es6 going to be such a let down
watch people just ignore es6 and just continue to mod skyrim
I don’t always agree with you but this video is spot on. Good work, I think you hit the nail on the head about the whole “profit motive” thing, essentially, hijacking BGS. Perhaps they succeeded too much, maybe if they were hurting for money again, they’d start caring about quality. Who knows, I doubt that’ll happen anytime soon.
5:05 The gall to say that they made “the biggest, richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine,” while starsector, x4, etc. exists just really p*ssed me off. Bethesda Game Studios are delulu at this point and/or vomiting up lies just to keep uninformed consumers/fanboys thinking they still have the “magic” they once had. But now their “magic” is becoming more of a cheap trick for their lack of innovation these days.
I played every Bethesda game for at least 100+ hours, even Fallout Shelter… until Fallout 76. After that, I’m done with them. No Starfield for me. And I will be skipping ES6 and any future Bethesda games. Gotta speak with your wallet.
I am 40+ and started getting super critical of Bethesda over 10 years ago bc they just wont get with the times. Still a fan, but they need to be called out.
You’re a fan, but Bethesda wants you to be simp
Emil needs to be fired LMAO
Todd and Emil have adopted a “gaslight and blame any perceived shortcomings on ‘toxic fans'” approach. So sad. Whatever goodwill Bethesda garnered over the decades is being eroded FAST (and likely irreparably) by their failure to even address reality. Instead, they seem determined to keep compounding their errors. It’d be sad, but I’ve already moved on from being abused by Bethesda.
WE WANT DYNAMIC GAMES WITH CHOICES THAT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE GAMES OUTCOMES. Shattered Space was good but nothing you did meant anything. as soon as the final quest ended, that was it. No matter what choices you made throughout… There were no artifacts of what you’ve done anywhere. Look at BG3, there are so many different ways you can commit to companions, ways you can effect the entire world based on your diligence or lack there of. BGS has lost that light on the worlds they create and the consumer is aware!
As others have said, Fallout London is out. It’s not perfect and has optimization issues, but that’s one hell of a job, done by people who did that in their free time without getting paid (except for the donations).
You just can’t pretend this hasn’t happened.
On the contrary, I don’t think the average AAA developer has passion. They’re committed to their job but they’re not passionate. Go back and watch a making of documentary of something like Halo 2 where you have developers spending all day working on their game then after work they sit around and PLAY it. That’s passion. By actually playing the game you learn what works and what doesn’t. You learn what is fun and what isn’t. These days I think many AAA devs are like the Diablo IV dungeon designer who is on video not knowing the basic control scheme for the game they made. Like they never actually sat down to play it.
Welp this made me worried about ES6… dang
I think what Emil is saying is that Starfield is the least buggiest game Bethesda ever made. Which is true.
Technically Starfield is pretty decent compared to previous games.
What Emil do not understand though is that people do not really care about bugs, if this was the case Bethesda would have gone bankrupt already.
Gamers just want a Bethesda experience, instead they gave us a classic Ubisoft game.
Emil just don’t understand what made Bethesda games great.
For the ending of FO3, it’s not that the player wanted to die its the fact BES gave you a Super Mutant and a Ghoul companion. Two creatures immune to radiation. BES loves writing in insanity stupid plot points in their games and expect the players to be equally as dumb. But the players 9/10 have a functioning brain with more than 2 brain cells, so they either say, ” Hey, that was stupid,” or they play mental gymnastics and theory craft to make it make sense.
Another thing if you Emil are mad players spent hours building settlements a core feature of the game and not paying attention to your poorly crafted stories. Make the building and crafting make sense. Why do i need glue to mod a gun why cant i just weld it together. I need 5 to 6 different thing to make or mod basic things. Streamline the crafting then I’ll have more time to pay attention to your Blade runner in the wasteland where noone knows how to rebuild anything.
Emil is basically Todd Howard’s right hand man……….. first video I watched of you but are you aware of Emil or Bethesda? He did the on the rails story line of the dark brotherhood which got praised. He is the reason fallout 3 was in Washington, He convinced Todd to do that, he even was the main writer for that, skyrim, fallout 4, fallout shelter(not sure about fallout 76.) But he also headed up starfield.
The way he wants things done in all game is beyond bad, and he’s responsible for every bad decision made by the games, Todd Howard gets the blame but people hate Bethesda cause oblivion was the last story they told people liked and it’s all this guy’s fault. I do hope you aren’t a Bethesda channel and you briefly know anything about them cause this comes off as disingenuous to downplay his roll, I believe him and Todd are old time best friends and he gets away with a lot cause Todd Howard is the dorky pushover and Emil walks all over him with creative decisions.
”Taking Forever to make these games”.Obsidian made what probably is the BEST Fallout game there ever was for just 18 months,and they still got shafted hard by BGS.The problem is that Bethesda is just woefully un-creative,unwilling and too stuck up in their ways to make a good RPG game.IF BGS is to continue making games,they need to get people who love what they’re doing like in CDPR or Obsidian(Interplay Entertainment ),OR just get rid of Todd Howard.
Pagliarulo: “Starfield is awesome, best game ever, a masterpiece.”
Audience: “No, it’s really not bro.”
Pagliarulo: “Yes it is”
Audience: “No, it’s really not.”
Pagliarulo: “Nya nya nya, I can’t hear you.”
Pagliarulo is not the only problem, but it is impossible to deny that he is A MAJOR PART OF THE PROBLEM… Pagliarulo was lead writer on Fallout 3, and then Skyrim and Fallout 4, what did these games have in common TERRIBLE FUKIN WRITING. But this one quest… YES, Pagliarulo didn’t write everything in those games, and not every quest or story in Skyrim or Fallout 4 was bad… However, taken as a whole the writing in all 3 of those games was BAD, yes there were some genuinely good stories in each of them, but 1 good quest line out of 20 is a FUKIN TERRIBLE track record… Ya know what’s worse, Pagliarulo (and Bethesda evidently) think the writing is great, they don’t think there is anything wrong with Starfield… There isn’t going to be a Cyberpunk redemption story here cuz they can’t even acknowledge that they have a problem…
“Everything is fine” (The studio is burning down around them)
AAA devs keep using “passion” as some get of jail card for making complete garbage
They’re doubling down that they’re on the right path and doing things correctly, so it’s clear which way TES6 will go.
If this was a $10-15 DLC it would have been fine, because its just more base game level content It’s not better, its not worse, its just more of the same. But for a full $30-40 DLC that costs more than the average AA game (e.g. Satisfactory that just released 1.0) i’d want near a full games worth of content, given most of what they’d use (engine, art assets, animations etc) is already done in the base game.
I don’t expect them to reimagine the game, but i do expect them (for that price) to at least add content to all areas of the game. New companions, new faction lines, new ship parts, new POI’s across the galaxy, new skill tree and probably some major new mechanic. Instead we got a few new guns and a “handcrafted” map chunk which honestly isn’t any more interesting than any of the handcrafted map chunks the other main cities reside in (including Neon, as the city makes up for the non-existent terrain).
FWIW i enjoyed playing starfield on gamepass (i would have been upset if i paid $70-110 for it), and i do intend to buy the packaged version of it someday on steam, when the price matches the quality. That is going to be much later than i originally anticipated though.
Starfield lost me when they made us a space cop and instead of arresting people, we murdered them.
calling starfield a space simulation is like calling skyrim a medieval battle simulator.
You want the big 3 of bathesda? Fallout, elder scrolls and arkane studios, and the best of them is gone
At this point, I’m looking more forward to the reviews shitting on TES6 than I am to the game itself.
haha! the “you sure about that” meme killed me.
It’s sad that people say far harbor is good when at the time when it came out it sucked. Fallout 4 as a whole sucked and learned nothing from new Vegas which it was trying to do with all its factions. People are getting nostalgic for ass games case the current game is ass. Y’all make no sense
Agree with all you said, though you generalised at one point. ‘Skyrim fans don’t want one save with 5000 hours’. Undoubtedly, you speak for many fans when you say that, but I don’t know if it’s a sizeable majority. I get emotionally connected to my character and usually can’t bring myself to start a new save for ages. ESO was really good for that, I’ve been on the same toon since the beta.
But yes, if the 5000 hours is full of procedurally generated and de-personalised content, then it’s bad. It’s just lazy game design.
I find it strange that the shareholders aren’t on fire demanding better products so the sales go up.
“The richest space RPG anyone could IMAGINE”??? I mean, he won’t bother with his writing, so we can’t expect him to bother with logic either, but the reason Starfield is hated and apathized to oblivion is because ANYONE COULD and DID imagine it different.
Nobody thinks of Starfield as one of “BGS’s Big 3” because BGS only has the “Big 2” sitting in their treehouse with the ladder puylled up while little Starfield desperately jumps on the ground trying to reach a branch. But I guess you could say Fallout is what you leave out if you count the “Big 2” as what BGS themselves have actually made.
You guys have had the same issue with Bethesda for like 20 years. I don’t exactly have much sympathy when you keep giving them money to make the exact same effort product. Bethesda does not have interesting writers in charge of their main storylines and they do not release products that work on launch. Stop giving them money or stop complaining.
If you didn’t already have concerns for ES6 then where the hell have you been living for the past 10 years?
@5:40 the game is overall crap but the quote was clearly “in some ways” so you are being obtuse for content. The quote is correct, it is for example the best gun play they have put into any of their games, whether the gun play is amazing compared to other non Bethesda games is not the point, it is the best of any mainline Bethesda game. The base building and ship creation is the best building they have put in any of their games. The quote is objectively true with how it was clearly intended, so there is no reason to play dumb. It is clearly a worse game in terms of quests, character building and hand built world design.
I got to the first city in starfield and stopped there the game just feels lifeless
Richest procedurally generated space sim? Dawg you ain’t No Man’s Sky
My favorite DLC ever is Dead Money from New Vegas. Starfield DLC gave me nothing to think about the next day.
i like the way Skyrim 5 quests is play. a soon the quest is over is over unless you want to start over on a new save
I guess I am a hard Headed Troglodyte Buffoon. 😅
Luke you have to understand that not everyone feels the same, I don’t love Elder Scrolls or Fallout, i find both games kind of “mehh” but i do love Starfield, am i in the minority with my personal taste of Bethesda game? 💯 but that still doesn’t make my feelings on Bethesda games not valid, it’s really about personal taste and Starfield might not have the same amount of d!e hard fans like Elder Scrolls and Fallout but that doesn’t make what I’m saying less valid 👍🏻
acute narcissism and participation reward mentality is so fascinating, “modern” game developers truly at work here.
The anti Starfield community, and the community that enjoys ripping the game to shreds are some of the most toxic communities online. Stop contributing and profiting off of them Luke. It’s embarrassing.
Why did the Starfield community throw a party after the Shattered Space DLC released? Because they finally had something to shatter their expectations more than the base game’s bugs did.
At this point…
Gotta make you wonder what kind of dirt Emil has on Todd Howard. Todd as a leader seems to have totally lost the plot, while Emil, as a BSG representative, as a game designer, and most importantly, as a writer never even had it.
havent watched the video yet but let me guess:
im an ist and a phobe for not buying it.
something something im a toxic fan and have toxic masculinity.
something something its my fault.
lets see how close i am
I’m playing starfield now and really enjoying it. The worst part of it is the fast travel / loading screen loop which won’t be in ES6.
Yeahhhhh no, Starfield blows.
just proof that anyone is capable of getting off the pot and, before flushing, pause, and admire the soupy mess that came out of them.
I’ve seen this Emil character a fair amount, and he’s so blatantly out of touch yet Bethesda continues to hold him as one of their primary creative directors. Not only is this disappointing to fans of their other games, but it says a lot about why so many corporations get it wrong: certain people fail upwards, maybe due to actually excelling for real at one point in their lives, and then stagnate at these top positions where their job is permanently safe (often while many underlings are laid off left and right). It’s a major flaw we have as humans and it appears all over the place, actual meritocracy is extremely rare.
I have no doubt that there are numerous aspiring recent college graduates who majored in game design or creative writing that could direct a game of this scope far far better, but they will not get the chance unless they happen to have the right parents
I hope people don’t blindly buy Elder Scrolls 6 like they did with Starfield. Selling millions of copies gives these idiots a “mission accomplished” mindset.
I wish I could have a refund. Game was terrible.
“They want to live in the worlds we create” too bad you didn’t create a fun one this time
The more time passes, the more games we get, the more and more outdated Starfield is. And it felt well over 10 years outdated when it launched. BGS will never improve because their fans keep lying to them out of pure cope, in addition to the fact that they have very clearly put themselves in a bubble over at BGS as well.
Bethesda and Fallout? No, I would disagree. BGS is very much TES studio, and I have yet to be impressed by any Fallout title which had been developed by BGS. This dude from the interview is all kinds of delusional.
the best game bethesda make is oblivion.
The thing about it being unique for console isn’t even true. Elite Dangerous is on console and its 10x better
That comment on how they’ve made a lot of changes to Starfield as a response to people’s issues just makes me laugh. The moment I wrote off Starfield as a game that’ll never become good, and that expansion would do nothing to redeem it, is the first patch, where they added a video mode and added the ability to eat food without putting it in your inventory. Those were there big two things they hyped for that patch. A video mode most people don’t care about, those that do felt should have been in the base game, and had already been implemented better by a modder, and the food thing that, while an improvement, doesn’t even work if the food is in a container rather than laying out in the open, so, like much of Starfield, not even fully implemented. That’s what they hyped. And they didn’t even fix a lot of game breaking bugs, like that often temples will stop spawning for players. And since then, the patches haven’t been any better.
How embarrassing is it, that a main talking point of your first big patch to your not well received game is that you can sometimes eat food without having to put it in your inventory first?
And you only have to look at BG3’s patches, a game that had a very strong reception, and yet their patches completely blow Starfield’s out of the water, in every way possible… bug fixing, adding more value to the game, and so on. The changes to Starfield have been a bad joke, and really highlight how little effort Bethesda is putting in to address the issues.
But they found time to monetize mods, rather than adding things for the consumers who already paid money for Starfield, to make the game worth the money it cost.
I am sure this will be hated but I think starfield and the direction BGS is going is geared towards a user like myself I love starfield not perfect but I love it. while at the same time I hate skyrim don’t like it at all and I am talking about gameplay here
They thought this was a good as Far Harbor? It’s not even as good as Tranquility Lane lmao.
The lack of companion interaction in this game is awful, Andreja barely said anything. Same let down as bringing Adrian Sanon with you for the “Operation Starseed” quest line.
Not only is Emil horrendously and embarrassingly bad at his job. That man also has some of the thinnest skin I’ve seen, just take the criticism, take the L, your game sucks, take it and get better. No, the players are wrong, must be
Emil is totally patting themselves on back for ignoring their players. He did a developer/designer q&a and literally the best thing you can do about bad reviews is ignore them. Emil doesn’t not value player feedback and it shows.
Looking forward to the TES:6 release, where it will be declared ‘worse than having bowel cancer’ and we will all have revised Starfield as being a pretty ok game.
Starfield is not a technical marvel, I don’t understand why they keep saying that
I would argue that Far Harbor – just the DLC, not even counting Fallout 4 – that Far Harbor is better than the entirety of Starfield. And the comparison with Cyberpunk 2077 is quite revealing: both DLC sell for $30, but Starfield and CP2077 both have highly publicized DLC – Starfield’s DLC runs about 5 hours; CP2077’s DLC runs about 13 hours (though CDPR says if you are a completionist it can run to 31.5 hours).
Pagliarulo is the most frustrating guy to hear talk. He thinks he’s in some kind of battle of wits with the people who play their games when in reality we just wanna play good games.
Todd has done so much for gamers and its sad to see them retaliate against him. Todd can always count on me, in his lowest times i will be there for him
I think the fun of Bethesda games is that they’re normally a world in which full stories are happening and it’s a choice to get into the stories or not (aside from the main quests). I would say what players want is the same to almost any open world game in a popular IP setting (i.e. Star Wars universe) is to get to be a character in a world that’s actively doing stuff whether you’re there or not. Everything doesn’t revolve around the player unless the player chooses to go for that story line. Almost every open world story currently is missing this really simple concept
I can see how Starfield could be considered their best game ever since noone there has worked on any of the good classic Bethesda games. Buncha amateur DEI and Nepos farting around like they had something to do with the husk they inhabit now
“the biggest richest space simulation anyone could imagine”? Totally delusional.
I have seen them leave the older fans wanting since Oblivion. There are a lot of old YT videos complaining about the features that have been taken away consistently from their games. With every Elder Scrolls new games many fans complain about features being diluted, the games becoming less complex, less RPG elements. Bethesda has not cared, in decades. It is exactly what you said, they see the money, they don’t care. This has been going on for decades.
I was a Starfield supporter. I played and actually enjoyed the game. There is a point where there just wasn’t anything to do in game anymore. I didn’t get upset or scream outrage. I started playing other games thinking when Shattered Space was launched I would return and there would be more to keep me entertained for awhile. I installed the DLC and ran into bug after bug after bug. Not tiny bugs, but game stopping bugs. In any other game they would have a patch out within days addressing the bugs. Not Starfield, they pretend the bugs don’t even exist. Putting the bugs aside, even if they are fixed, Shattered Space adds maybe 10 hours of new content. I complete that and I’m right back with nothing to keep me entertained in game.
Shattered Space and their attitude about it has pretty much killed any excitement I have for the game. Prior to the DLC launch if you would have asked me if I was going to buy future expansions I would have have said yes, without a doubt. But if all we are going to get once a year is bug fixes, a new area, and a bit of story content that simply isn’t going to cut it.
hodd toward
CDPR obeyed fan pressure because they have a conscience. I wonder if BGS defenders have the same lack of integrity as BGS is proving.
8:41 “Whatever it is.”
Oh my god, this idiot thinks people actually enjoy infinitely repeating ‘radiant’ quests.
That’s why they thought the procedural generation in Starfield would work.
They actually thought people liked that garbage enough for it to entirely replace handcrafted content. That is absurd.
I disagree @11:40
You need passion to be able to create a good game.
But on the flip side, you need delusion to make a bad game.
Do not confuse delusion with passion.
Why luke doing so many videos of starfield and suicide squad? Honest answer: it makes lot views to luke.many hate watcher in his channel.
BGS has never made a good game, and I used to love fallout/Skyrim when I was younger, but now that I’ve grown up and played hundreds more games now, I’ve realised they were only okay for there time. I mean, look at the combat it’s wild they’ve literally never made a game with good combat. All I know is I’ll never buy anything from them again.
Why do you have 2 keyboards?😂
I draw a connection between the trajectory of Game of Thrones and Bethesda’s trajectory. I have a suspicion there is something wrong in the heart of our culture. We can’t make great art, and we keep pulling a “Weekend At Bernie’s” with things that mimic past successes.
“Beshesds listening players who play actively their games and give their money” = well, of course, who else they are going to listen??
6:28 Bethesda makes RPGs? I had no idea.
The four main factions in Fallout 4 revolved around procedural generation quests. People did as few of them as were needed to get to the next crafted quest – Preston having spawned a meme around it. And then BGS built a whole game using that system.
Bethesda is completely full of crap. It’s really pathetic. Their games have always been hollow in various ways. Starfield is those holes taking over most of the game. It’s amazing how blind they are to these chronic factors.
There are many of us who tolerate the Bethesda realisation of Fallout and Elder Scrolls. There are elements we like that we try to focus on as we play them. Starfield just doesn’t have the redeeming features that we relied on in other Bethesda games, so even so many of the diehards were feeling the lack.
There are things very wrong with their culture that they not only didn’t really catch on to these issues through the decades, but are in such ridiculous denial when it gets spit back in their face by soooo many long-time fans. Why should anyone trust Bethesda?
Just as an FYI; Your comb-forward does NOT hide the bald . . .
Mass Effect Andromeda is a very good game compared to Starfield lol.
I know we don’t want everything to use the same engine but if there were ever a case where it seems necessary to maybe switch to unreal it’s in the case of BGS and their terrible creation engine.
I also love many BGS games… but honestly… I just don’t consider them competitive anymore.
At the time, they made huge strides forward with older games for the gaming space.
As of late we’ve gotten what? Fallout 76 launcing as the hottest turd dropped on fans since ET nearly tanked the entire video game industry in the 80s, and then Starfield being mediocre AF to this overpriced piece of crap, and the fallout 4 “patch” that breaks your game…
And even when we look at those great games of the past what do they all have in common that makes them great? That’s right COMMUNITY PATCHES because the games were never finished, were always broken, and aren’t able to exist functionally without modders. That shit does not cut it anymore now that video games are the absolute largest entertainment industry with more money than is conceivable funding these failed buggy messes.
People looked the other way when BGS was the scrappy underdog, but they never graduated to the level of responsibility required for the money they received. If anything they got lazier. BGS was great, at one time, and so was Ubisoft, and so was Blizzard, and all of these are just crumbling infrastructure when you compare it to just flat out better games like Horizon Forbidden West and Elden Ring and countless others, shit even Valheim with it’s piss level graphics was fantastically more of a better game in EA launch than Starfield.
This isn’t to say it all sucks, it’s to say it’s corporate drivel and not worth our dollars anymore, and if they want those dollars again they have to earn them back.
I think the biggest indictment of shat-the-bed is that i saw no ads or promotions for the release. I only found out after I saw Luke cover it
It’s really the fucking worst when a paid mod is fucking broken. Basically a DLC with no quality assurance. “Oopsie poopsie! it doesn’t work? aren’t mods so quirky?”
This is why I watch this Luke’s videos even though many people say he’s a conservative right wing Chud. He says so many things of substance.
The part that needs to change across the board for gaming in general is to start working on things longer than a year and stop being surprised when rushed work doesn’t turn out ok. Or you could charge like 5 bucks for the expansion and that’d be that lol
Anyone holding out hope for tes VI being any good is beyond delusional, vanilla skyrim doesnt even hold up today, current bethesda would have to make a game better than skyrim, impossible. Melee alone will break them, this isnt 2011, now you are competing with elden ring and other souls like, gow, jedi games, do you think bethesda can create melee combat that will come close to those? xD And thats to say nothing about their demonstrable inability to write anything decent, they cant even continue their established lore in any decent way. And starfield demonstrated that even hand crafted environments/dungeons with self contained mini stories are gone too. TES VI will be outsourced garbage just like starfield.
Heres the thing.
IF STARFIELD IS PERFECT, THEN LEAVE IT ALONE AND MAKE SOMETHING ELSE “PERFECT”
You’re actively trying to “fix problems” but lemmy tell you, unless it’s a complete overhaul, you aren’t bringing back any fans that already left it. For the love of god work on something else.
Calling Stardoodoo one of the best games they ever made is crazy work 💀
money talks louder than bad reviews
How soon into the future will Private Equity firms begin to dicate the direction of games (just do the bare minimum)
I’ll buy Starfield when it’s on sale for ten bucks.
If games were words starfield would be a slur 🤣
“Space simulation”??! WTF are they talking about?
What universe does Emil live in?
Gave a like just for the Todd Howard Pumpkin Spiced Candle ❤
So excited for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2!!
“The big three of bethesda” bruh they can even make one game from one of their IP’s without it taking 15 years maybe 2 is enough
Oh of course it was Emil. He is the real problem at BGS. Todd’s just a mouthpiece.
Just came here to say I’m interested in bethesdas response but not interested in a 25 minute long video about it. Get to the point.
They’re slowly becoming ubisoft
Look I’m a freaking huuuge huge bgs fan. But I agree with you 100.
Huh, I thought starfield was a first time indie dev game.
Emil Pagliarulo lives in a complete echo chamber. He blocked me on X after even slight criticism. He cannot take any constructive feedback and does not know why or how he fails at his job.
I will not buy another Bethesda game with him at the helm. He must go.
Long time Bethesda fan here. Been playing their games since they bought the Fallout IP. I’m actually very surprised that people have bought this DLC. The ONLY reason I played Starfield is because it was free on Xbox. I knew after Fallout 4 (it’s amazing in its own ways) that their ability to create an engaging world was lost. I will not play their games until I’m more confident in this company and I really hope TES 6 is good. Really
Why in the year of our lord 2024 are some people still defending Bethesda
delusional bullshit talk , wat fanbase does starfield have?
Just checked, I have 64 hours in Starfield and I can’t remember a thing about it. I have 30 hours in Control and it’s one of my favorite games.
Im not suprised its terrible i wasted my money just buying the game so im definitely not buying anything from Bethesda till they start doing something meaningful
I mean if peoples are still buying bgs games at this point, you’re basically asking for this situation.
I stopped paying for their games about 10 years ago and I don’t regret it. I could see well in advance that Starfield would be just bad.
The solution is simple. Stop paying for their games. Buying them and then giving feedback will do absolutely nothing. They simply do not listen because the cash flow is still coming in and do not care about your reviews.
I am looking forward The Wayward Realms since it’s being made by the elder scrolls creators.
The ultimate, accurate critique of a once great company that once didn’t need writers because their tech was stupendous. Now, they’re just refusing to hiring writers. It shows.
The problem with Fallout 3s ending wasn’t that you die, or that the game “ends” Fallout New Vegas did that, and no one had an issue with it. No, the problem was that FO3s ending was dumb. There were multiple companions that are immune to radiation that could have activated project purity. No one in their right mind would volunteer to die doing this in this situation. And the excuses that the companions gave for why they wouldn’t was extremely weak. Suddenly Fawkes is worried about destiny? What?
It seems like Bethesda really has no idea what their fans want, or why we criticize things. They are so far off base with pretty much every comment, I’m convinced that it’s not even ignorance anymore, it’s just straight up delusion.
I totally understand the criticism, and do have my own frustrations, but I’m in the camp that can’t stop playing it. It’s annoying because it teases us with all these gameplay mechanics that ultimately end up being really shallow, but I still play it for what it is and what I hope it still can be, whether that’s via mods or Bethesda fleshing out features. Ultimately, the game itself checked more boxes than it didn’t for me, and while the misses do suck, the hits like the ship builder, really do click with me. Can’t even call me a BGS fanboy because Starfield’s my first BGS game. I do not enjoy fantasy/swordplay games or the Fallout vibe, and strictly played COD throughout its golden era. I don’t even mess with the fantasy power aspect of Starfield…totally play it for the sci-fi side of things. Guess I’m a weird outlier..
the person who handle the bethesda whole game level design already left quite sometime.
the biggest redpill is just leaving bethesda in the past. it’s over, it’s never coming back. the company spiritually died somewhere after fallout 4
The DLC was designed for a limited number of players on a artificially limited in number of players. When you limit the player base the resources you have for development are going to be inherently less.
Maybe fromsoft has spoiled us but now when I hear expansion I wanna see shadow of the erdtree level quality that’s probably the best expansion pack I’ve ever played
I don’t think it’s even objective. Cyberpunk just has better writing.
just want to say its Friday night peak gaming for all ages and as of now starfield player count is 8,041. Notable games like
Cyberpunk 2077 player count: 24,779,
Balduers Gate 3 Player count:67,628
Elden Ring player count:32,253
The Witcher 3 player count:7,297
No mans Sky player count:6,884
if that doesn’t say something idk
What is the lore that explains why the people of the Starfield universe were able to make technological discoveries like space craft and space travel, but they weren’t able to create land vehicles for planetary exploration? It’s hilarious that the npcs don’t have land vehicles. It would be like playing a medieval game where YOU can ride and travel by horse, yet no other character npcs in the game ride horses. Imagine RDR2 and only the player character rides a horse. Everyone else in RDR2 hasn’t figured out how to tame and ride horses yet lmao. The gaslighting is strong with Bethesda.
Luke, been watching you for a few years and the bit from like 15:30-19:00 has gotta be my favorite tirade you’ve ever been on. Your frustration is clear and your point very well conveyed. I hope someone from BGS sees this.
Morrowind is the best game BGS has ever made. It’s not even close. I miss old Bethesda.
New Vegas has more Dialogs and choices than this BS.
Can’t wait to see the same bugs and problems in ES6, in reviews mind you, cause there’s no way i’d pay for it.
Luke may I ask why you have two keyboards?
23:00 the literal reason you dont respond to criticisms in the comments…
I’ve played fallout 3 and 4 as well as es morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim. I’ve put hundreds of hours into each of those games. I have still yet to beat Star field. It’s not the same engaging story like how the previous games were.
Toxic positively and DEI go hand in hand
I think Cyberpunk just set a bar now, that has just set a new level in quality. Yeah it was bad on launch but now i would say Cyberpunk is the top story driven RPG in this modern era and not everything else just seems mid as other studieos are just not putting in the same level of quality IMO.
And a move to UE5 may be in Bethesdas best interests
Bethesda will never improve as long as they’re living in a cave sniffing their own farts and laughing about it
You tried BGS and that’s okay not everyone can pull of a new Ip learn from this and put all talent and resources into ES6 and Fallout 5, unless you plan to do a 2077 or no man’s sky comeback give it up.
Unreal engine 5 would be a massive improvement at their studio. Yes it’ll take time to adapt to it but overall performance and reliability would skyrocket.
The details that could be rendered are insane with performance in mind.
This would affect modders as well, but seriously Unreal is an incredible asset.
As for leadership and direction I don’t have an answer for that. I’m happy with the og devs and writing teams staying and mentoring the new blood keeping the essence of BGS alive. But this can be done right, or wrong.
I believe people want the wonder, curiosities, a world in its own with something artistically, purposefully placed with thoughtful consideration. That’s what made their games special, not generated environments that may look interesting at a glance but loses just that relatively soon.
Those are my thoughts, anyone have things to add that needs to be addressed?
Emil is the embodiment of “Rent free” and “Don’t ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product”
Can Microsoft just fire this turd already? They always wonder why their games sucks when this guy is still running under their skin
The “starfield bad click pls” content is getting old
I just got the Platinum again for Fallout 4 on PS5. I’ve heard it’s just “so broken”… Besides the 2 times it crashed, some frame-rate issues. It was fine for me.
I don’t like bethesda, I don’t like skyrim or Fallout, but people are misinterpreting the quote from the guy. He is not saiyng that starfield is the best game they ever made, but in a lot ways it’s, for example the conbat, its the best combat they ever made, graphics wise, it’s the best as well, so yeah he is right, and I don’t even like any of bethesda games and I can see that.
How does a person this incompetent come to be in a position that has to handle projects this expensive?
Emil calling Starfield ‘in the big three’ with Fallout and Elder Scrolls is like if Miyamoto came out and said that Arms was in the big three with Mario and Zelda.
My play through I was done after 4hrs I really thought it would be longer too if u add in the non essential quests of course it would prolly be longer but after that it ruined the whole experience of playing it any further hopefully they can bring out a better dlc later that revives it but it’s lost on me and after 22 days of time played I’m burnt
the 1 thing i will give starfield, is the grapical fidelity and crispness, and even the range of performance that you can achieve with the sliders – is incredible. this is a fantastic LOOKING game. which is odd because usually their games look jank, but there is a lot inside of them (like my favorite game Daggerfall) … BUT this is the opposite. Ship building, ships, the skys, ground textures, surfaces, all look awesome … but everything else is shallow. that is a good word you used. boring weapons. superficial factions. horrible npc AI. the whole thing. there just isn’t a lot to discover in this game and that was supposed to be the point.
The only entertaining thing about Starfield is all the content coming out talking about how much of a disaster it is.
I did imagine how future historians would react to the present time we have…
Probably it did goes about 3.5 millennia after Gomorrah and Sodom the great cycle repeats, a number of players. Gamers and DEIers disputed and fought many many imagined nuclear wars over the visual representation of another extinct species labeled as LGBTQ+saurus. It almost resulted in the ensuing 1984 Big Brothers overlording all that we know… Almost!
So glad I refunded the Premium Edition of starfield the same day I played it. It was just painfully tedious with the loading screens just to get from point A to B even on an SSD.
Bethesda eating ELDER SCROLLS Legacy… Even Elder Scrolls online have nothing update’s so suck main story good but all DLC Stories not even close that main quest some of them little good but big chunk of them so cringe and bad story have
Luke miking starfield more than rockstar with gta online
I consider Star Citizen to be a bigger, richer space simulation RPG and the makers of that game are less than stellar at their job. Not technically a scam, the people making it are just wildly inept at budgeting in money, time, and scope.
A huge problem with working on a game or product for years is that you grow to not see its flaws because you see it every day your brain just kinda goes along with it. I’ve felt it even after a year of develoupement on small games I’ve worked on. It’s very important to not take too long to make a game cause if it takes for ever you are doing something wrong
So did they actually respond, or is this just talking about the same Emil interview thats been talked about over and over?
I problem i have really often is invisible assests. I’m curious if im the only one.
AAA Devs nowadays spend more time focusing on graphics rather than actual gameplay, yeah the games look visually stunning but what’s the point if all we’re left with is a pretty, shallow shell of what the the game could of been. It’s quite sad.
Bethesda has to contact their company’s powder supplier, I think they are snorting some expired stuff.
bethesda and ubisoft on a competition on who can go lower
I don’t play BGS games for what BGS games can do with it, I play BGS games because the community makes them into wonderul living worlds through all the different kinds of mods they produce. Honestly base vanilla Skyrim is trash, yet through the modding community it is pretty darn good, Fallout same thing, Starfield gives the community a much larger canvas to paint. That is why I play BGS games, for the modded content. There are so many great mods for Starfield, so I don’t care what BGS does with going forward, so long as the modding community does its thing.
DLCs are normally more of the same. Everything I have seen of Shattered Space looks fine but Starfield is mid so what did you expect?
It appears just as good as Far Harbor.
Bethesda is the perfect example of a dev studio that now lets their hubris speak for them
Also: No one wants to play leftist propaganda disguised as a videogame. That’s why Dustborn failed.
Luke: “Hey, you’re a shitty game developer, _but you’re a hell of a salesman!”_
Todd: “F*ck you Luke!”
(This is a Better Call Saul reference)
Thank you so much for this video.
passion and hard work *=/=* _Good_ work
How come you never say “end quote”? When are we supposed to know when you’ve finished quoting someone??
Shattered Space wasn’t DLC but cut content from the base game hence why it was so short .
The problem is nostalgia muddles folks playtime with the older titles, Skyrims story was boring one thing Bethesda has never done well is story telling.
Skyrim got lucky due to modders fixing the issues BGS should’ve fixed, it also added the extra content the devs could’ve added if they had some competent directors it showed how incompetent the company is with the additions of some decent modded clothing and armor(not talking about the absurd amount of R rated content which creepers would mod or the floodgates of anime and yiffs which flooded the mods page too) which Clearly showed if they took the time in their art design they could’ve given a product that didn’t rely on modders from the get go.
They went from a company with a small amount of staff with a passion for fantasy rpg genre to being similar to ubislop too worried about the profit margin and their investors.
9:00 yes yes and yes.
“That worries me that Emil just fundementally doesn’t know what fans like-”
Lemme stop you right there, yes thats whats happening. Emil doesn’t understand and cant engage with criticism so he never will. He needs to be bumped back down to level designer.
I criticize because I actually care, if I stayed quiet, it either means that I just no longer care or that I’m a Yes Man robot. Real people react, only PUPPETS just nods and agree to anything and everything without any thoughts.
Passion is great and all, but forget about Far Harbour, look at Fallout London. Team FOLON are obviously passionate about the franchise, and for everything from the quantity to the quality of the content, it makes Shattered Space as a paid DLC look like a bad joke. Maybe Emil and his cohort need to step aside for some new blood that are also passionate, but less out of touch and still creatively productive.
This video makes me want to go play Fallout 4’s Far Harbor lol
Bethesda has gone to hell QUICK!! It’s sad.
And I agree with you that it takes a real fan to call them out rather than just accept what they are doing.
As someone who’s developed games in both indie and production, shouting online “we put alot of effort put into Starfield, so it’s good” is just ridiculous. You can put a lot of effort into a game project where everyone does their best, and it still is underwhelming. Emil is just delusional in his posts. Passionate players who give you feedback care about your creation, and is a tell they want (or expect) more out of your talent. Take the mistakes in pride and do better; don’t wallow with disillusion because you “worked really hard”.
I don’t agree with one thing you said. I did not have to roll back Fallout 4. It works fine. Maybe try playing the game without a million mods? I only use 50 and it’s running.
Bethesda executives are absolutely delusional. No wonder Starfield was so underwhelming.
I found Fallout 4’s writing to be lacklustre, but I enjoyed loads of time with that game due to the gameplay mechanics (especially the crafting systems). I also enjoyed a lot of the major DLCs.
Skyrim was similarly a game where I wasn’t blown away by the writing, but the way it was designed allowed me to enjoy multiple replays with and without mods. Similarly, I enjoyed most of the DLC (at least I’m concept, if not execution) as well.
Oblivion, for all that games faults, holds sentimental value for being my first Bethesda game and one who’s writing I still enjoy, despite it’s mechanical limitations.
Fallout 3 and, New Vegas are *still* some of my favourite games of all time, despite their own glaring flaws.
Unlike all those games, Starfield has _no_ redeeming qualities (in my opinion) to the point where I still can’t bring myself to try it, even if it cost a single dollar.
Never before have I seen a Bethesda game where _exploration_ – something Bethesda developed a positive reputation for – is the most boring thing about it! No matter which YouTuber does a play through, I just can’t see what’s appealing about it.
I couldn’t get pass 5hrs of the base game 😢😢😢
I don’t think Starfield is the best game ever made but it is quite an interesting idea and there are lots of things that are good in it. I can only hope Starfield 2 accounts for all the feedback and becomes one of the best space RPGs around. I do think it’s silly to expect Bethesda to literally only ever make Elder Scrolls and Fallout games for the rest of eternity.
They charged for that update though (CDPR) I suppose they had to because it’s a business, But maybe the game shouldn’t have released when it did. They release it a year later and then 6 months later Liberty can be released and it’s a great collection
“It’s because I’m a fan dumbass” is my Luke quote of 2024 lol. The fact that people can’t tell that Luke cares is wild. It’s like the coach that pushes the player with the most potential the hardest, it’s because they can achieve so much more than what is currently being achieved.
Harddest thing theyve ever done? so theyre putting more effort to do something worse? Thats just stupid
The problem is that they think starfield was their best game. That tells you all you need to know where they headed.
Also he claims that Starfield did something NO OTHER game has done before? They really are living in their own insulated bubble aren’t they?
I’ve been pissed off with Bethesda since Skyrim. Took them forever to fix that and make it playable . Then there’s fallout 4 where you can’t even go near Boston unless you got a top of the line computer and we’re talking small car money here maybe more. Now comes starfield. I mean honestly it’s at the point where if I saw Todd and company in public I would probably call him a hack . They just been taking our money and delivering subpar service and products for decades and enough is enough .
Everything about this game and the DLC screams mismanagement by both BGS and Microsoft, in addition to the bad writing and design philosophy.
BGS was staffed at 500 people across multiple studios for this game, and a couple of the ex-employees complained about meetings. I’ve been in software companies where development was hamstrung by meetings taking up valuable development time, and I’m pretty sure that was the case here. There’s no way a staff of that size did so little if they had properly allotted time for their work.
My suspicion is that, in addition to Todd and Emil making some bad decisions for the design and writing of the game, there was a lot of intervention both internally at BGS and coming from MS to make sure there wasn’t a repeat of the Fallout 76 fiasco, and to make sure that it wasn’t on the same level of jank as Cyberpunk 2077. As a consequence, their team is likely micromanaged with little time to actually do the work, which resulted in slow, miniscule and poorly-tested releases.
I have never bought a Bethesda game at launch and I’ve never regretted that
The FO3 thing is…stupid. People just don’t like playing a game for 40 hours on average just to die at the end. The only games I’m somewhat okay with dying in is a Final Fantasy game where the main characters die somewhat regularly 😂 Emil needs to read the room. The other problem with the is that they think they made a really great game in Skyrim when they didn’t. The community and their mods made the game great
I booted the game back up the other day as I’d stopped playing shortly after release and never picked it back up.
Holy crap was it obvious why I put it down in the first place.
Soulless, undercooked and boring. What a flop.
“It’s the best game we’ve ever made” the sales would say otherwise….the reviews would say otherwise….
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
“fans, or old school fans or former fans, whatever you want to call them…..” you’re so smarmy, holy sh1t
I highly doubt TES 6 will be anywhere near as good as Skyrim : Nolvus version 6
this guy was always was a problem the more he rose in ranks the shitter Bethesda became
“It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but what is?” is such a hilarious statement. Coming from the “Keep it simple stupid” developer, who works at the company notorious for cutting down features and paring away RPG elements to appeal to a broader, general audience…it’s the ultimate irony.
Well, I can’t wait to not buy TES6🔥
Rockstar Games: *7-8 years later* “Hey here’s another masterpiece game that’ll make history and be played forever”
Bethesda games: *7-8 years later* “Hey here’s our new severely outdated pile of shit”
Man you keep popping up on my feed and i agree with basically everything say… sub it is thank youtube for your suggestion 🙏
I was looking forward to Elder Scrolls 6. Not anymore.
I genuinely have no love for BGS anymore, after seeing the nonsense they pulled with Fallout 76, paid mods in fallout 4, and then admit they hadnt been working on ES6 years after having shown a teaser, it just screamed scummy, and money oriented instead of fan/customer focused, a damn shame. Starfield and this blatant ignoring of criticism, and waving away genuine points was just another nail in the coffin for me
The Bethesda fans that doxxed and harassed that one IGN reviewer that gave Starfield a 7 out of 10 got what they deserved. A barren game that even modders that they also love to harass don’t want anything to do with.
Narrative wise, Morrowind was the last good (great, even) thing BGS ever created.
CDPR really redeemed CP 2077. Its a generational game now that is one of the best out there while Bethesda is happy when it „just works“ how about being better and doing better? Crazies part even is most of it doesnt even work and they have the gall to say that bc some people still cling onto to it in the hopes it gets better that it has its own fanbase and we just dont understand?
Imo a lazy excuse and deflecting the responsibility as developers
“Cause I’m a fan dumb ass”
The football fan in me laughed
I feel like whatever this Emil is saying is just wasting our time and having *something* said somewhere, so it doesn’t look so ignorant, like when they released Starfield and they would hammer us with their dev. responses on Steam, how dare we criticise their “best” game.
Here is my advice: Just forget about this game.
Stop trying to add more DLCs and similar meaningless addons. It’s a waste of time. Nobody cares, people don’t play this anymore, it’s boring AF.
Go work on the ES6 and give us a beta or pre release alpha so we can tell you in time that whether it’s gonna suck or not!
People will still preorder ES6. The writing team is clearly braindead at Bethesda, and they don’t know how to make a good game in this era. When the best thing about your big game, is the comical reactions to it… You’ve fucked up.
And stealing content cause ur not creative enough at all
Your career is built on a foundation of lies and insecurity’s
Tells you how impactful the expansion was, as I’m just now hearing of it.
The pathetically tried to defend your self
when sim settlements 2 has way more content than the entirety of starfield plus shattered space
Remember when you plagiarized and entire video by hb bomberguy????
have we grown up to say that the next game in the fallout/elder scrolls series should be made on a new/different technology by a different team, where bethesda can at most be a consultant? Because I don’t think it’s a problem with Todd or any particular person at bethesda, it’s a problem with their work culture and technology, both have worn out, and no one even has an idea how to fix it
Bethesda has always been terrible
The modders carry and fix the clunky broken mess they keep peddling as AAA games.
8:45 Emil you disingenuous knobgobbler– nobody liked the ending of Fallout 3 because you were FORCED to get in the death chamber, even if you had the RAD-IMMUNE SUPER MUTANT in your party (who would also flat-out REFUSE to do it for you, saying it was your ‘destiny’). People hated that ending because it was badly written and shit, like the rest of FO3’s story, not just because their character died. You let Arkane make Prey, did you not notice people were okay with that game having an ending with finality?
Astounding that every time they reveal what they took away from their mistakes, it’s always the wrong lessons learned.
Dead to me. 76 was blasphemous. Starfield was the nail in the coffin. Wasted 70 hours of my life waiting for it to “get better”. They’ll never get another dime from me now. I won’t play their older titles either. Ubisoft the same.
Emil Poo-gliarulo 😂😂
I dare anyone to look up Skyrims mining animation and compare it to WoWs, then tell me BGS used to have pride in their games. They’ve always been meh.
Bethesda is a joke
bethesda gave obsidian 18 months to develop fallout new vegas, and despite bad bugs at launch day (that were eventually mostly fixed with official patch and mods), the content and the stories of fnv is still top tier fallout content to this day.
bethesda gave themselves ~1 year to develop shattered space dlc, and it shattered a lot of stuff upon release, in bad ways.
They’re going to ruin elder scrolls. If they think starfield is the best game they’ve ever made in some aspects…..all of the features in starfield are done better in other games even older Bethesda games.
Bethesda used to live in the real world and make fantasy games
Now they live in a fantasy and make boring real world games.
“The astronauts weren’t bored on the moon” 🤡
As a writer who dabbled in editing for a couple of games. The storyline in starfield was plain unfixable…. If I’d have received THAT as the outline of the story on my desk, I would have asked them to rewrite it entirely if not set in on fire with how bad it was.
I have no idea how people could accept such bad writing from a big studio like Bethesda.
“In a lot of ways, one of the best games we’ve ever made”
I’m genuinely speechless at that statement.
I’m a Skyrim hater (I hate the direction TES went post-Morrowind), but at least that game has charm and was an undeniably ambitious title for its day. I don’t think Bethesda has come close to that high point ever since.
I’m so scared of Kingdom Come. I sucked at the first game and had to experience it vicariously on twitch. Sure as hell going to buy KC2. If I can’t get past the tutorial, I’ll find a way to enjoy that product.
Subparfield. Basically sums up the game.
i have no hope nor interest for the next Elder Scrolls installment anymore, bravo Todd.
Travelling to your quest destination in Skyrim:
– Clearing 5 caves on the way
– Meeting random npcs that give you side quests
– Killing a dragon that’s attacking a village
Travelling to your quest destination in Starfield:
– Navigate the same menu screen 3 different times
– Sit through 5 loading screens
skyrim has been my favourite game for years, and those guys managed to ruin it for me, i can’t play skyrim anymore without thinking “then what ? elder scrolls 6 will be shit knowing the direction they’re taking, isnt it time to stop ?” so i did, now i no longer am hyped for tes VI, no longer have hope, won’t even buy it, i prefer finishing that relationship that ok got me into medieval fantasy, but their time as the “best” medieval fantasy game makers is gone, long gone. i was blinded for too long too but now i’m glad people show them that they’re sunking, and if they still wanna sink, we’ll let them, i kinda hope for tes VI to flop, just so this franchise can die in peace
The WWE ran into this problem around the late 90’s.
“Now that our competition is shut down, the audience will have no choice but to watch our product!”
>Viewership drops because their product sucks
Luke looks good! Looks like he’s been working out 🙂
Bethesda , emile and todd as a whole have a ego problem. That will be there downfall.
Isnt no man’s sky on Xbox, so saying they put the biggest space onto an Xbox is a lie. I hate no man’s sky but you fly to from your planet like wtf
ES6 is gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuck
He may be calling it a “technical marvel” but even Daggerfall, a game released by the same studio(in name at least) almost thirty years ago, made better use of procedural generation. No amount of technical marvelousness can compensate for good game design.
Starfield is.. a very mediocre 6/10 game. But this controversy is dumb. What are the devs supposed to do, come out and say “yeah the game is sh_t, don’t buy it!”
Todd and Emil are privvy to a lot more internal Microsoft information. X Box and Game Pass NEEDED Starfield to be a mega Elder Scrolls / Fallout level hit, they NEED to sell a lot of Shattered Space copies. Coming out and admitting it’s not great so close to release would totally kill it more so than it already is. Starfield is a large reason for the total reshaping of Game Pass, it lost them an astronomical amount of money, it is a giant flop. Everyone’s issues with the game are largely foundational and cannot be fixed. They cannot make their writing and quests better overnight, their designers and writers worked on this for a long time, this is their best right now.
Bethesda gave Obsidian 18 months to develop Fallout: New Vegas, keep that in mind
Fun thing, but i guessing that The Witcher 4 and The Witcher 1 remake will came BEFORE ES6, and Cyberpunk Orion will came before F5.
You have to bring your Todd Howard cutout down from the bedroom? XD The plot thickens.
The only thing I agree with him on is wanting to live in their games. I actually do want to roleplay and continually live in their games and download mods and keep my story/roleplay basically going indefinitely. I do not like to restart, when I restart games I lose interest in them as it no longer feels special or new. If I restart it just turns into me midmaxing and not roleplaying anymore. So no me as a Bethesda fan since Morrowind I do want to “live in” their games.
In terms of how improved the creation engine is it’s a technical marvel but gameplay has seen very little improvement. Starfield plays closer to a Fallout 4.5 with worse AI and exploration content.
We all know if Starfield has been a PS5 exclusive it would have been a 9.2/10 game and GOTY contender.
Does Starfield have it´s flaws? Yeah. Could it have been better than it was? Sure, But it did not deserve even half the amount of hatred it got.
I’ll probably uninstall Starfield and go back to Fallout 4 or maybe even Oblivion. Starfield is just not a game I wanna play to unwind after a hard day of work. Dull combat, boring exploration, long winded dialog, weak quests, annoying companions, even the ship builder is pointless since you can’t really fly it. I couldn’t imagine paying $30 for Shattered Space when DLC like Witcher’s 3 Blood And Wine exists.
Being a starfield fans must be so sad… how do you live with such shitty taste ??
Innovate or Stagnate. GG to Hodd Toward, MS gonna find someone else to spearhead ES6 most likely.
I just struggle to see who they’re doing this for, if they’re making these games for their fans, which fans really wanted this? I don’t know many people personally who love fallout or elder scrolls that like what they’ve done or have been doing with Starfield
How is it even “best experience on consoles”? Cyberpunk is on consoles. Baulders gate 3 is on consoles. No man’s sky is on consoles. Skyrim is on consoles. They literally just putting words together hoping people who never touched a video game before buy into it.
Started playing this crap game again and was blown away. It’s not crappy as everyone says 😅
I thought starfield was enjoyable not amazing but enjoyed the time with it since I like cyberpunk stuff like neon city I was excited for but it was small same time it was fun but it wasn’t amazing even worse than Cyberpunk 2077 1.0 it was literally the definition of mediocre.
Remember when Scott Cawthon received a negative review saying that his characters looks like scary animatronics, and instead of taking it personal and saying nothing was wrong with his games, he took that feedback, said “I can make them even scarier!” and went to create one of the most successful new franchises of the last decade?
Emil badly needs PR training. Bethesda is a giant AAA company that thinks they are an indie dev.
TALK DONT COOK RICE. the team that finishes 5th in the NBA championship played with as much passion as the team that finished 1st. they just failed. passion means nothing. some one should mention to him THAT THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS. your fucking intent means nothing, your delivery means everything.
I cannot believe people are still giving bethesda their money
Jesus lmao he’s still so clueless ! We don’t want more. Starfield was too much. We want HIGHER QUALITY
16x the detail in that candle
All this criticism doesn’t even make any sense. I really tried to understand, what people criticize, but it’s either inconsistent or plain false. They criticize that there are no new weapons, which s false. They criticize that it is too short, but the new planet is much larger than Far Harbor and has lots of additional quests that I couldn’t finish in more than a week plying 8 hours per day. Far Harbor was just one short street along the harbor with one pub, an empty island with a robot outpost and could be finished in a few hours. So what are you actually criticizing? I only hear general statements, but without specifying what you refer to.
Maybe you should just go back and play Pacman, or Donkey Kong, or something. Perhaps this fits your attention span better.
CD project red at least acknowledged their mistakes and fixed the game. Bethesda is still on the “no we won’t fix it. The people that mod our games will”
Well said
I’ve been a bethesda fan for so long now. I bought the deluxe edition, I played the game maybe 50 hours. I dont even care to try the dlc. Its pretty terrible an nothing i was expecting/wanting. if your reading this an like it cool, do you. But i think the game is crap and boring.
We all know you’ll cover starfield again, dont lie
Bethesda is stuck in the early 2000s. They don’t know how to innovate.
Just throwing this out there, but Elite Dangerous and Star Trek Online are on Console.
1:28 so that was your post on X/Twitter. I think someone was saying about something about the word “Accidentally” on X. I completed shattered space on the day it released. The main quest only has eight quests to it. And when I did it a second time I did the side quests and there about ten. And one of the side quests has a unique skin and armor/spacesuit. You don’t get but you ether have to kill her to get or steal it by pickpocket. Am not going to give the names unless you played it. I probably won’t remember anyway.
Bioware and bethesda were ny child hood and have made my favorite franchises ever. It hurts seeing them fail constantly now
I’m new to playing Bethesda games for myself, but watching the fans that are both fairly critical of them but huge fans of their older games has been really fascinating to watch since the release of Fallout 4 for me.
Now as for fallout 3, the dying ending. Shut your mouth, probably the first time i shed a tear in a videogame seeing the picture of your dad and you as a kid in the vault.
What i didnt like was i brought a immune to radiation damage mutant with me, aka fawks i believe and he refused to do it because i needed to die. you just dont take the option out of their hands and it would be fine.
That’s it, ES6 is doomed.
to be frank the far harber dlc wasnt that great in fallout 4. it was fine, fallout 4 in general was fine. somewhat replayable but it lacked a lot that the previous games had and was suppost to be the best fallout ever , so you see the trend of lower quality story ect for the higher cost new things they push in the games.
the vibe i got with fallout 4 is why i played all its dlc but stood back when 76 came down as it sounded like a cash grab after i heard todds speach, i never knew todd before 76 promotions and i didnt trust their ability to make a good mmo. nothing about their previous games said to me , we make good mmo games.
i figured they might be trying to pull in as much money as possible to invest in a bigger fallout or elder scroll project but i guess tried breaking into the mmo cash money market. which will make the next game they come out with a sit back and watch reviews game before purchase instead of a instant purchase for me.
Bethesda writing has been meh to terrible for a while now. To see them double down on it is so frustrating
Bethesda has become another zombie 3A studio. They are a shambling shell of what they once were. I’ll play FromSoft and indie until the 3As all die. They are done, hopefully the few skilled devs there go on to make passion projects and gaming can return to what it once was. The Corpos kill everything they touch
Kinda sad these days fans and modders could make better content…🤦🏻♂️
Is it just me, I thought 4 to 5 hours is a pretty big dlc add on. 6 hours is a good size for a small full game.
The Todd candle 😂😂
I’ve been a big Starfield supporter, there was a lot about it I really enjoyed, mainly the general vibe and the starship building. There were also plenty of things about it I didn’t like and I knew it had issues, but I still thought a lot of the hate was overblown. I saw the examples of Cyberpunk and No Man’s Sky, and thought they’d just take some time, listen to feedback, and within a year or so the game would be noticeably better.
After shattered space, there’s just no excuse anymore. Shattered space could have been part of the initial launch and not a single issue with the game would have been avoided. A whole year has passed and there has been quite literally no improvement, and it doesn’t seem like any is on the way. I’ll probably always enjoy starfield to an extent but the lack of ambition is honestly astounding.
when even the shills like luke,mrmatty,juicehead hate it imagine how bad it really is
to me starfield failed on 3 fronts:
1. writing, it’s just bland and boring, perfect example is 3 terrormorphs attacking new atlantis?… totally underwelming, they where sleeping waiting for me one by one, they died in seconds… writing at this point is unfixable but can be improved with gameplay, making it exciting… insted of 3 terrormx… do like, build defenses, arm guards… prepare, and confront waves more and more difficult (yes you would have to delete old corpses so the engine can handle it) but boring story can be improved with gameplay (just an example, apply it to all quests).
2. space is empty and boring, mainly it’s just a fast travel hub with some lame or easy random encounters, fix: fill it with different things to do and strong and good gameplay loops, i don’t know, spacewalks to fix the ship after a battle, fix a space station, build space stations, conquers sectors, better bounty hunting, mining, fuel usage, space trucking, space horrors in derelict ships, in system travel with better random encounters and POI between, space dungeons, whatever, buff the hell out of space activities and ways to deal with it.
3. procedural generation, i don’t think it’s a bad system (for things outside of the handcrafted quests and locations), just make it work with the above systems, like, these more fleshed out gameplay loops and activities, sends you to a procedural generated POI or dungeon, but is fully a new POI, mix and match the dungeon rooms, or space POIs, enemies, ships, traps, asteroids… all the stuff, so almost every one feels new… right now i just make the cryo facility over and over again…. so procedural content, serves the main game like a background.
(and as a bonus please add some more diverse, complex and deep companions, almost all the main ones are just one sided good guys) i just runed with like the russian chick, she’s not judging me all the time.
maybe all this it’s not enough to fix it… but is enough to make it exciting for modders to fix it… XD
I disagree with you and matty on the whole “live in the world” thing. I like the live in the world thing.
I have been playing Bethesda games since Morrowind on the original Xbox and I have more hours in Skyrim and Fallout 4 than all the other games in my steam library combined. Starfield is a massive disappointment. I tried to start a new game when the expansion came out and I just couldn’t do it. I got through the pirate attack and I suddenly realized it wasn’t worth it to me. To have to endure the terrible writing, plot holes, insufferable companions, loading screens and lackluster exploration all over again just to see more of the same in the DLC…
There’s a detail in there that bothers quite a bit. Emil said “… worked on by designers of previous games … going all the way back to MORROWIND.”
Dude, Todd is the ONLY one that matches this description and I’m not sure if MW was so good because of him or rather in spite of him. The 8 or so dudes who worked on TES 3 were/are absolute legends, but very few of them stuck around for Oblivion.
The early TES games were made or at least influenced by actual decent writers. Guess why the lore is so insanely rich and deep while the execution has been half-assed since Oblivion…
The last decent lead designer at BGS was Will Shen, the GOAT, who made Far Harbor. And now he left the studio…
7:20 nah man it’s gonna be 2028 for the first TRAILER(not teaser) for Elder Scrolls 6
Just a reminder, Daggerfall was entirely procedurally generated, too. People disliked it so much, ES3 was not. Starfield is just a retread of old tech with better graphics.
mechanical wise (engine and such) it might be their best game. Not the best “good and fun” game for sure.
That quote is absolutely nuts. I can’t only imagine a bigger and richer space simulation, I’ve played at least 7 of them
“Troglodytic buffoon”!😂
How come people memoryholed the credits for Starfield. 45 minutes.
30 minutes of it is about outsourcing to India. You wonder why the game is bad? The latter combined with D€!
Compare with the credits of Skyrim, Oblivion or Morrowind.
Only Shills support Starfield, it’s garbage, so is cyberpunk. Unfinished… I won’t even buy the next ones in fear of these types of releases.
Starfield is a great game. Fight me nerds.
Whenever I hear the word passion from some corporate spokesperson, I always puke in my mouth a bit.
Yea I mean fire all the devs he’ll get rid of Todd Howard shut down Bethesda then let cd projekt red make es6 but es6 is already almost done at this point oh well regardless the game would end up trash I don’t think anyone can even save the dumpster fire that is Bethesda softworks
The DLC was like playing star wars acolyte. It was so fkn cringe I couldn’t stand it.
The very fact that they refused to give ANYONE a release review key for the DLC game before it was released that week really spoke volumes. They KNEW it wasn’t good and wanted to be sure they lost no incoming revenue from people hesitating to get the DLC on launch day.
I’m gonna start referring to my fungus infected toenails as “their own little Pockets of Awesome.”
It shows you how lazy and amateurish Bethesda are when their modders release better experiences than the so-called AAA studio does.
This is basically a downfall spiral. We’ve seen it happen with BioWare. As old timers who built the franchises retire, cashing in in their bonuses and stock options post MSFT acquisition, the new gen of workers are hired at cheap rate, covering the workload of several people so they will never deliver on the same level.
It’s a tell as old as time.
BETHESDA is shaping up to be the next UBISOFT. Community response on shattered space should have been a wakeup call for them
Toxic positivity 👍 and gaslight your audience.. 👌This is promising.. xD
Love it man. Keep em coming.
Good video.
If people are so naive to think a game company only makes games because they want to be nice to people I don’t know what to say?
Every single game company does it for MONEY!
The only way you can make game companies listen is to threaten their existence or income.
Bethesda has had a huge popularity in the way they handles their previous game (except FO 76 and ES Online). The previous games from Oblivion to Skyrim and Fallout 4 was really good because they were made in a time where CPUs and GPUs were limiting the amount of elements in a game, but they managed to create something despite the small options available.
Starfield is developed in a time where the games still was ‘simpler’ to create. Bethesda was probably aware of this and that’s why they decided to release it before it became too old/old fashioned to become a succes. But I guess they waited too long – although we can see they tried to implement a lot of things to make it look great? I think they focused a lot of ressources to optimize Starfield to modern CPUs and GPU’s and hoped their design/brand could stand the test.
Starfield is in general not a bad game as such. It’s just terribly bad directed and compiled. A game of that magnitude demands three or four times as many ressources and efforts to be a succes – on a 24 hour working day, seven days a week.
A 1000 planets to explore is going to fail with random generated planets and bases. That is not what Bethesda fans expect. The exploration has become anonymous and indifferent. Most of the game is not about exploring but grinding for crafting materials and use loads of time in menus.
They also seem to be completely fixated on lengthen the game more than giving you an exiting experience. The endless grinding, the millions of lockpicks etc. Stopping blocks in actually every move you try to do. And that’s not the way the previous games were designed. The so called ‘freedom’ in the game has vanished. That is also why it gets boring and frustrating. There is too much derailing vs. satisfactory adventure and progress.
What worries me the most is to see the modding community leaving the game. If you look on Nexus there’s only one third or even lesser mods created for Starfield compared to Skyrim and Fallout 4. Bethesda blew it big time by screwing the modders in their attempt to introduce paid mods. But I guess the reason is competition has become even harder as the years go by. I just don’t think this is the right way to go.
I have been a Bethesda fan since Skyrim came out. It was in fact so good I completely skipped First Person Shooter with RPGs. I even play Baldur’s Gate 3 now! But my disappointment with Starfield is grave.
PS.
I used 3546 hours on Skyrim, 7142 on Fallout 4 and 771 on Starfield. I play Starfield right now because there is no other game around to temp me. Simply put.
*cyberpunk to this very day is not the game they advertised for a decade prior and hardly one that matches the literature. that’s just a fact, jack.
They could look at my ownership of all their prior games on multiple clients steam/gog based on if I want to play with mods versus when i bought it at release and see I’m a fan
i have 300 hours on this game . I dont understand why people dont like it , some side missions are bland but what game doesnt have some boring side missions .
I’ve watched more people bash starfield than ive spent playing the game, not even the modders want to touch this garbage.
We had people who liked it and People who liked it less 😂
To be fair, Starfield needs more content, its lacking but…. it was exposed the other day with fake bad reviews by people who havent even played the DLC, even some barely didnt tough the game neither. There are content creators finding views from bad reviews because some ppl want to see that sort of things. It explains alot with other game companies too that some get away with terrible games and others make good games but get such heavy backlash from ppl who just like to do angry reviews.
Bethesda really needs to replace Todd.
Yeah I’m done with Bethesda
It’s the studio I associate with the lack of choices in FO4, the disastrous launch of FO76, and going on fifteen years of rereleases of Skyrim.
Working hard is not the same as being productive.
It’s pretty clear Emil is the biggest problem over there.
I know it’s a poor excuse of a DLC, but I personally don’t mind it, but I didn’t like the story. It lacks a lot but I’m not exactly having my day ruined and soiling my trousers over it. Submit an application to Bethesda and solve the problem then.
These studio’s need to re-evaluate what is important in a game. I mean like CD project is pushing Graphics hard and ya know Cyberpunk is beautiful. However These games have horrible gameplay loops. Starfield has 1 major issue for me. It’s boring as all hell! The gameplay loop is bad! You can get what 1 of 6 different guns? And even the guns are level gated. So you cant get anything really cool! NOTHING REALLY COOL EVEN EXISTS! It’s a joyless cashgrab and the problem with Bethesda is that they know it, and refuse to fix it. It seems like they just produce games now because they are a production studio, not because they are gamers.
Literally all hype for ES6 has been killed for me. I was trying to convince myself that Starfield was bad because it’s a new IP and they were trying something new… but after this latest DLC, and how they responded to criticism about it… bro I dont know anymore
Emil literally is not aware that No Man Sky exists. He really thinks they are the first folks who have proc gen planets
These companies (video game studios and big companies in general) responses to critics are the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going “la la la la la”. Just my opinion.
Elder Scrolls & Fall Out: We grant you a place on this council but, deny you the rank of Bethesda franchise.
Starfield: That is outrageous! It is unfair!
Elder Scrolls and Fall Out: Take a seat young Starslop
Alright, i get it, you gotta milk the cow like rockstar milks GTA online. Starfield bad, DLC bad, Devs bad, we get it, move on, thats enough. Different clickbait, same articles, same quotes. Come on man
You are dead head on the nail.
We “Tolerate” StarField. It’s still missing very basic thing.
…like being open space with fast travel as an option, not the only route haha.
Open space with threats you encounter from point A to point B, not fast travel A to fast travel B.
Threats that happen while traveling like being pulled out of hyperspace.
Difficulties in traveling from point A to point B besides random angry person with spaceship (i.e. hull breaches, asteroid showers, gravity anomalies, etc.).
Sentient humanoid aliens.
A brig ship component you can actually store bounties or ops inside of lol
I truly believe bethesdas engine is not holding the games back, its the writing and gameplay team that just dont seem interested in making anything new or interesting. I just want to be wowed by something theyve done again
Hey Luke. Did you tell uncle that if he buys droids to make sure they speak Bochi?
6:10 I can answer that question. Water is every ones cup of tea. They sold water.
Elder scrolls and Fallout. Then people came along and add tea and sugar in the form of mods and reworks.
Starfield was a homebrew that wasn’t up to par with the water they were selling that could have any flavor thanks to the other additions available.
17:42 LOL. I have no way ideal how they messed that up. They had set up a function for reload and animation and all the guns before use the same function. Did they just forgot to paste the reload function on the game object? Maybe which I think it would be more reasonable to be overlooked, there was a break in animation that is tied to reload function that broke reloading.
ill say it again. The gameplay loop of starfield completely disconnects you from all of the characters and places because of the ending. It makes every decision and connection lose any purpose
I think ES6 will be the last gasp of Bethesda’s slow shambling death. It seems basically guaranteed to be a failure and I just cannot see Microsoft letting them continue that way.
Especially with an actually massive important franchise like TES.
“Not playing it right”? How the hell are you suppose to play a bethesda game?!
Starfield was ok until it wasn’t…then it got worse…and the dlc was the slicing on the ache….YAWN of the YEAR!
Way is there not a animation for drinking and eating at a bar for immersion. there is for cyberpunk.
The hardcore “fans” of BGS are exactly the same as the HC Final Fantasy “fans”. They just simp over certain directors and producers, thinking they can do no wrong. It’s so sad to watch.
bethesda could get a doctorate in gaslighting. the things they are “known for” are things they did once or twice in the last 20 years. i do not care that morrowind was good. i do not care that skyrim was good a decade ago. bethesda is fucking delusional if they think the product they sold is of any quality. ive seen gameplay, there is nothing on offer. the studio keeps saying they are proud of the game, if that is true then they as a company are shit.
I will defend fallout 3’s ending, they probably should have known, but they were aiming it for the fallout 1-2 style where you beat the game, it’s game over nothing more, but by then when it was bethesda, we had gotten used to playing the game forever.
Any hype around ES6 is looking quite bleak
Mr Matty plays surprisingly woke up to bethesdas mediocrity, and Juicehead loves slop though,
That “anyone could imagine”?!? That’s just clearly and obviously wrong. No real game is ever more than can be imagined.
The way they described what they thought people wanted, they could’ve been talking about Wing Commander with everything on rails. They DID need to say they weren’t patting themselves on the back for not delivering, that was the first indication that it may not be the case.
What about people who played Starfield 15 hours and haven’t looked back, waiting on something to be added to the game? I mean, the season pass meant it was possible. This doesn’t sound like it does much for the base game.
Maybe Emils granddaughter helped design Starfield, therefore we all need to be super upbeat and blindly positive about it.
Starfield isn’t a BIG IP
They need to pull it, re-design it, and relaunch it. CDPR did it, so can they
I would rather have had elderscrolls 6, but it’s not that we got this instead, it’s that we got this SHIT instead, if it was good, I be like, fine, we have to wait, but we got this fun one to play till then.
I don’t think anything they put out in this style would ever be revered as on the level of Far Harbor becasuse their basic gameplay mechanics/loop are played out and tired.
Elders scrolls 6 will be super outdated, unoptimized and buggy when it will come out. But I feel a lot people will actually play it since there really isn’t many Skyrim like games.
They need to.switch to Unreal.
You weren’t too harsh, that DLC blows. It offers a choice then gives the same ending!? F that shit.
Had to force myself to finish this DLC and that’s only b/c I bought the premium edition and wanted to get my moneys worth lol. I’ll probably never buy an additional dlc for this game though.
I swear Pagliarulo was high on the sniffing of his own farts when he did that interview.
Just like you can’t spell ‘Ignorant’ without IGN; You can’t spell Pagliarulo, without LIAR!!!
Edit: Also CDPR banned a bunch of people that called them out on their BS. I was one. And I blacklisted CDPR in response to that ban.
If Bethesda does not listen to their customers, they will find one day that they no longer have any customers.
Good to see you expanding your content with the Starfield/Bethesda coverage!
Soooooo man did you nail it. I saw the ship going off course in Fallout 3. I can’t tell you the hours I spent playing Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallouts before. The way 3 ended was just a fuck you to the player base and it just keeps happening now. They have lost their way over at least a decade ago and they don’t care because they can just put out Skyrim over and over and over and over again.
Talking about shatted fart is not worth it, buy metaphor refantazio play a real game.
Yeah but did you see the amount of sandwiches you can have floating around? They were really proud of all the sandwiches you can float around your ship.
Ubisoft thought they figured it out too and now look at them…
The launch day sale of this thing has inflated these people’s ego to levels they do not deserve at all.
i think Elder scrolls 6 is Bethesda’s last line. if ES6 is shet they will pull a Ubisoft. stocks going down and loosing the mark. then maybe they will realize that the opinions of the gamers that play the games matter.
Their heads aren’t in the sand. They’re up each other’s asses. This is blatantly gaslighting fans in their pathetic attempt at saying this game is on the same level as Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Bethesda hasn’t put out a good game in ten years. What a joke.
“No, it was good, you guys just didn’t get it” – Bethesda every time they shit out another half baked excuse of a game.
ES6 is on that same game engine. It’s already over. Like, there’s nothing more that can come of that engine than pain. It’s over
16:30 Indeed.
The cricitism made CDPR push themselves to fix Cyberpunk.
Just as criticism made Hello Games fix and meet the promises for No Man’s Sky.
Criticism is hard to take, but it means people love your product and want to see it succeed.
Betgesda can’t understand that, so they stick their heads in the….. mud.
I still see people saying they’re holding out hope for TES6, like Bethesda is gonna turn things around any minute now if they’d just listen to the fans. You hold out hope when there’s some chance things will change. Bethesda has only gotten more into paid mods and releasing half-finished, broken games (now they’re even going back and breaking games from almost a decade ago!) and have shown no interest in questioning their approach. It’s not hope anymore, it’s delusion. There’s no reason to expect TES6 will be anything except a more aggressively monetized Starfield.
no offense but be real bro when u advertise your streams r u gonna say my streams r pretty redundant my personality is pretty milk toast like no you wanna advertise to ppl its not delusion its just corporate speak
Well…just look at Ubisoft, if u go back 15y nobody would believe an AC game is having problems with pre-orders, lol. Nobody would belive an Open world Starwars action game would struggle with sales. Bethesda now have 2 strikes, Fallout 76 and Starfield, there is just so much “good will” people are willing to give.
LOL- I checked out. I don’t give CDPR or BGS any of my money until at least a year after the property has been out and fixed- and I will never pay full price for any of these properties ever again. Fallout 4 was fine once the Mods fixed it, and CP’77 still isn’t the game they sold me a for years before it actually came out broken. CP’77 is a fine game, and FO4 is great with the right mods. These devs do not deserve full price, trust or even much respect anymore. I will change my tune about this after they release 2 games in a row that are good on day one and are worth the money charged.
Yeah, Todd better check the golden parachute, because he might have to pull the rip cord soon.
I was bored with Starfield in the first hour. I love other Bethesda games, so I forced myself to play a few more hours, thinking it had to get better. It did not get better. I can’t believe they scrapped the team that made The Evil Within and Ghostwire: Tokyo, then they have the nerve to call this the best game they ever made?!
he’s selling a product what do you want him to say my game was mid and the dlc was bland and generic lmao like bro imagine making a shitty house and trying to sell it to someone r i gonna tell them the faucet shoots water or r u gonna tell them how hard u worked on it
Todd was completely right. Players do want to live in the worlds they create. Worlds without loading screens.
Emil says “in many ways” it’s the best – which, to be fair, it might be (subjectively) because of graphical fidelity, lighting, sound design etc etc. I’m not a Starfield defender, btw – I’m just not convinced that phrase in the interview is being evaluated fairly.
honestly
I actually liked the dialogue…
All the crap going on with Starfield is what made me finally give up on Bethesda, I have no hope for any of their later games.
Time for me to move on to games with subsistence and not a lack of it.
I’m preordering es6. I hope they keep the same producers and make a Bethesda game like they always have. I hope they never listen to the “new” audience that doesn’t even like Bethesda games. I dislike alot of trendy, and popular games or only play them for about 50 hours. Sometimes I’ll complete a good game and never pick it back up. If they start doing something just for it to be popular instead of catering to their core audience, that will be what stops me from buying Bethesda games. Starfield is the first game in a long time I think I’ll break 1000 hours in. You guys are really trying your hardest to ruin a thing some people really actually like to play.
Living in the game world means I want to be able to roleplay as a character and the game provides me with the tools necessary to do that. It does not mean whatever the fuck Emil is talking about.
Bethesda is completely out of touch and I will never buy another one of their games.
I spent 80 hours on Starfield. I thoroughly enjoyed 40, then realized after the next 40 it peaked already, and was going to be boring af for the rest of the time.
17:24 exact same problem with pokemon “fans”. Dare criticize the comically long wizards scroll of issues, problems and poor decisions and you’re marked as a hater. How dare you want games to be quality.
It’s concerning how toxic positivity keeps ruining games and the decision-makers are seemingly ignoring this simple and obvious fact. You shouldn’t have to endure harassment, but if a significant part of your community is screaming at you, you should start to ask yourself questions. Gamers will use gamer words, but that doesn’t mean their opinion is not without merit.
I tried star field, but it was truly boring and the game failed to hook me. I might not have given it a chance but I think I lasted 30 minutes before deleting
BSG is all but dead now, they’ll traffic in nostalgia and past reputation, but their days of making great games are long gone
Bethesda’s base games are rarely good, but their expansions are typically better, shivering isles, far harbor, etc. but clearly now the talent is gone. As for the shouts in skyrim, most of them are pointless, especially if you play stealth. Skyrim is trash, one of the worst games ever but since literally no one is doing open world first person RPG, Bethesda gets away with minimal effort.
I want an interviewer to ask Todd how bethesda made new vegas like really hype it up as the best they ever made and then act surprised when he says they didn’t make it.
I think they’d take the feedback differently if they hadn’t been bought by Microsoft. They can afford copiun, for now…
100% agree with this. And I don’t feel its just bethesda with this problem, I think its a cancer throughout the entire AAA landscape in how these companies think..
i don’t know how ppl can say “it’s good game”
“16 times the detail”
Why treat any of their statements as coming from a sincere or genuine place. They are full of it, expecting enough people to buy it.
Are gamers ever going to learn to stop having expectations for this stuff? How many times has this happened? And you still get hyped
Weird thing for me is I saw that tweet about accidentally finishing the DLC but idk who you are. Guess now I do. It’s a small world.
It’s just a shame Emil is a terrible writer, at least he fits well with the other people at Bethesda who are terrible at making games.
They never talk about how much is taken from mods, the game not ending after the last mission was a mod. Building NPC town stuff and crafting was a mod, survival systems where a mod.
A lot of what we look at as good systems where copied from mods made, at the same time they have been striping out the RPG side of games & modders had to go in and fix the conversation systems etc.
I had real hope for Starfield, it’s rare we get a big epic space game. I just dont know who the game was made for, to safe & at the same time not inspired by classic SIFI books.
2:11 them saying it’s one of the best Expansiojs they’ve played when Phantom Liberty exists is actually insane
Holding my breath that modders might still make this game worth playing.
All this stuff tells me one thing:
Todd is no longer in control
Yeah sure plenty of people will rip Todd, but before you KNEW he was in charge. Has he been since ESO? Really? Can you point to me where that’s obvious to see?
Emil? Passionate? Maybe when he first started at BGS, because he actually put some effort into Bloodmoon expansion and the Brotherhood questline in Oblivion, but he was terrible as lead writer for Fallout 3, barely did anything with Fallout 4, and was (allegedly) nonexistent in Fallout 76.
He wasn’t bad with Skyrim though, even seemed somewhat ambitious with it (if we take into account all of the cut civil war content that modders dug back up), so maybe Emil’s only really passionate about _fantasy_ stories.
I like how they don’t seem to realise that Skyrim being a masterpiece despite being a shit game is really only a one time thing and would never really be tolerated again, and use it as formula to build games on.
People love Fallout for the lore, the fun settlement building and the great setting. People love Elder Scrolls for the lore, exploration and atmosphere. Both also have great mods. Starfield has loading screens and barren planets. Nobody wants to live in the world of Starfield because it’s empty.
Honestly, people are better off getting the latest re-release of Skyrim and finding space-themed mods.
Starfield hasn’t earned the title of Great. BGS can not just give that title to their own game. The consumers determine what is worthy of being called Great.
Emil is literally gaslighting his consumer base.
I like Starfield, I like the DLC. It’s not great and deserves some criticism but a lot of it is overblown on the internet. Luke here pretends to be relieved to not have to play a video game, like it’s causing him some form of agony. I don’t mind developers being satisfied with the product they created, if it isn’t good and doesn’t make money it’s ultimately them who will face the consequences. I do think they’ll adjust for TESVI, I’m cool with Starfield being it’s own thing in the meantime.
Oh THX for G-Rebels i wouldn’t knew about its existing without you showing the web 🙂
I actually kinda liked Shattered Space BUT ….. and its a big but, I played it completely overhauled into a star wars game with mods. I honestly don’t think I would have enjoyed it as much without that touch from the galaxy far far away. Like he said it was short and I literally ran everywhere as if it was a fallout game, I did not buy the car. And I beat it along with many side quests in like 2 days I think. But the problem is it shouldn’t take a boatload of mods to enjoy a game, I was also playing F04 side by side with this game because I hate leaving things unfinished (I was mid playthrough) and the side by side comparison between FO4 and Starfield is jarring, its honestly kinda frustrating at times. With mods the game is fun but vanilla.. man I don’t think I’ll ever play vanilla SF again and thats not a good thing.
You know it’s pure cope when they act like starfield is the biggest and best space RPG out there when Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, and others exist with WAY more depth and interesting gameplay.
Bethesda needs to shut it down. They just don’t have it anymore
4:11 DAAAAAAAMN he was GIGAFAT lmao
finally gave kingdom come deliverance a try this month and was blown away by how much I enjoyed the immersive medieval world. Unfortunately the combat was wonky as hell but some mods sorted that out and I have high expectations for kingdom come 2
I’m waiting for a developer to implement, “Oh hey, you want to use the X button in our game. YOU NEED A SUBSCRIPTION!!”.
Cdpr sold a literal broken game to people that is not the same as someone selling you a game that you just turn out not liking. Not liking Starfield. It’s not the same as someone selling you something that is defective.
I’ve used this example multiple times but I don’t like dark souls but no one’s going to change that game to something I want to play. So what I do is I get over it and I move on. I don’t continuously cry. The dark souls isn’t tailor made for me.
And just like how fromsoft ignores the complaints for the people who don’t like dark souls and they get praised for it. But that’s the does the same thing and they get hate for it because apparently Bethesda can’t have a vision for their game and stick to those guns without getting hate.
Skyrim was everyone’s cup of tea
Buy product, consume product, smille.
Bethesda has no soul.
Starfield on it’s own as a BGS game, I enjoyed at face value. What took me out of it CONSTANTLY was the sea of small missed opportunities they could have done that a single, entry level, QA player could have suggested (and most likely had, because I can’t fathom otherwise) and they deliberately chose to ignore. Like simple UI inventory management that hasn’t been updated in decades, play a damn Cutscene at least while you load assets while traveling to another system…They totally missed the mark on that and fast travel. IMO, it should have taken real time to traverse systems in starfield, and in that time, there was down time, where you could walk around your ship, interact, upgrade gear, etc. I have found NO reason, whatsoever to spend time doing that in the base game. A missed opportunity for both immersion and incentivizing a mechanic. 150+ hours in I haven’t bothered with doing it once. There are dozens of examples like this.
No fucking way he called it a technical marvel, I didn’t think he could top “ignore the reviews”
Should let Microsoft know the concerns fans are having, feel like BGS is now on par with BioWare atm, they need a win like hopefully Dragon Age Veilguard will be to pull them out
It’s crazy how big their egos are
I dream for the day Emil doesn’t work at BGS anymore. He has been the root of pretty much every problem with Bethesda games over the years.
That spacemarine in the background is FKN awesome brother ❤.. May the The Emperor protect
Yea I’m not buying the next Elder Scrolls….clearly their downhill quality trajectory is going to keep going
Emils perspective is unique to himself cause he has seen it all from behind the scenes that no one else will see. He’s unable to see it from a gamers perspective.
I mean, no kidding you have “plenty of people telling us they liked it”, you and your community engagement teams aggressively screen all negativity until you get into an interview and get asked the simplest questions that make you look like absolute shysters, and blame your underperformance exclusively on the economy.
And people wonder why the persistently engaging game community is so quick to aggression: you can only BS people for so long before suffering the natural consequences of being utterly disingenuous.
Blaming players for their expectations always comes across as “we stopped caring, so why do you?” Looking at recent successes like BG3, Elden Ring, Wukong, the developers say they wish they could’ve done more, even Cyberpunk made a come back because CDPR genuinely cared about their game. For a company to defend making a bad product shows that they never intended to make a great one
The fact that we are in 2024 and they have pumped yet another fps centered game with the same broken fps system as fallout 3 is mind boggling, youd expect after almost 20 years they would have put in empty mag reloads, bullet dropdown, advanced hitboxes, bullet dynamics like ammo penetration trough objects… But… Here we are
They are literally acting like the shitty restaurant owners on Gordon Ramsays kitchen nightmares, “our stuff is good people love it” whilst receiving scathing reviews
Best space game, lol?
“The best game we ever made.”
Oblivion has entered the chat…
Its xbox fault think bout it
Starfield was incredibly forgettable. I spent 40+ hrs in it and don’t remember a single thing about it. The Bethesda magic just wasn’t there like it was in ES and FO
Bethesda is delulu
I really hope the team still on Starfield has been grinding away on the second expansion and a 2.0 patch since Shattered Space was obviously cut content from the base game, but I won’t hold my breath.
wtf are u talking about. EVERYTHING blablatesta have made is TRASH! Fallout TRASH, ES TRASH, starfild TRASH! Why are u even talking about that delucinal TRASH company
Oblivion horse armor was a better expansion.
Also just don’t play the game if you don’t like it. The gaming community has gotten so toxic through streamers and YouTube
They’ve been working in a bubble of toxic positivity, and it’s interesting and sad to see how delusional a creative mind gets when willingly trapped under those conditions.
That interview is like the cruise director of the Titanic announcing the buffet is open while the ship is sinking.
5:05 He said that as if No Man’s Sky doesn’t exist.
The game and studio were cooked when their response to players being bored was “the astronauts that landed on the moon didn’t find it boring.”
The reason people hated the fallout 3 ending was because you could easily work around the death but all you did was worthless which isn’t very roll play
I absolutely DO want to *live* in Bethesda game worlds and play my character endlessly. BUT! I don’t want to live in the universe of Starfield. It’s bland. That’s all there is to it. There’s no edge, no danger, no interesting lore. But when they say players want to live in their worlds, they’re right. I DO want to spend 5000 hours on my one save file/character doing endless content.
can one really call it “writing” if all their sci-fi is just shamelessly ripping off other sci-fi media?
Bethesda is on the Ubisoft track. Eventually, everyone except their biggest fans will just stop buying their games and they’ll have no idea why.
Emil using the word “simulation” when describing the game is ridiculously laughable.
What’s even more frustrating than getting hate for not liking the game is the fanboys who lie to themselves about how great the game is.
Too much passion 😂
These big companies will never take responsibility, and just admit they’ve made a shit game. Look at the amount of self patting on the back they do. It’s fucking hilarious. “We’ve pulled it off”, as if Starfield is this most amazing incredible game ever. Shit feels like it’s from 2011. A bad 2011 game. It’s embarrassing. Technical marvel my ass.
Also, I find it funny he’s trying to use subjective objective arguments when talking about shattered space and far harbor, but completely misunderstands the fact that Starfield objectively speaking Is bethesda’s best game. I’m not talking about subjective things like if you objective metrics like graphics, gun play level of Polish (bugs). But for some reason he doesn’t understand this objective argument. Probably because it’s complementing a game he doesn’t like. But he can easily use objective subjective arguments when critiquing the game he doesn’t like. And It seems like most of you do that.
that sounds dumb lol
The cream rises until it spoils, I guess.
Can anyone summarize the “response” so that I don’t have to sit through 25 mins of this video?
Not buyin their shit games at all sure would help
Bethesda business model is based on preorder fishing now.
Once again my theory is correct, if Xbox touches it, it’s DOA. Luke you are the biggest hater in the entire world and have made a name off “criticism” and stealing others content, but you aren’t wrong with Bethesda. It’s time they move on from Todd Howard.
Stop supporting this garbage. Gamers deserve better games. Go play Balders Gate 3 instead of Starfield.
War. War never changes.
I’m gonna be honest, the best thing about Bethesda games has always been the exploration. And starfield had bad exploration. The lifeless worlds are just not interesting. It’s like if someone made a game but solely around the side quest worlds from mass effect 1.
Skyrim has many flaws, all Bethesda games have many flaws. From questionable writing, sometimes forgettable characters, sloppy combat, and a bunch of other things, but none of that mattered because the world was fun to explore. It distracted you from the fact that the rest of the game was kinda mid. That was the beauty of it and that’s why I have like 1000 hours of Skyrim played when I was a young teenager.
In this day and age, so many other games have mastered exploration and world building, and have better stuff in the other departments. So you have to ask, why should I play starfield?
Bethesda needs to recapture that magic of exploration. It would be great if they could make some better combat and stories and whatnot but at least cover what they are best at
I like your Jesus candle on the left
9:24 Hard disagree, I’m sorry, Daggerfall proves you so wrong on this one, it’s not that content is generated, or It’s too much of it, problem is that for last 3 games Bethesda code and writing became SO MUCH worse to the point where indie studios sweep the floor with them, they generate so much revenue and unable to write better stories or write better code, or hell have more content.
9:29 I don’t know how if I agree with this or not because it feels like this take is exclusively from a PC player’s perspective. Because for like the first 6 years of Skyrim console players didn’t have mods. When the game ended and we thought we did all the stuff the game was done. There was nothing else to do. So maybe this Guy in the interview is giving a bad take when it comes to PC players but when it comes to contemplators that was definitely your experience. We wanted to keep playing. We wanted new stuff but there wasn’t new stuff because we were on console and the only new stuff we could get was from DLC.
9:02 That’s where you’re wrong. I play the same save file forever.
Hardcore Bethesda fans are basically abused spouses. No matter how many times they get hit, they always come back for more.
ive spent 300 hours playing Starfield and still haven’t completed the main story, all the faction quests and side content and only played around 3-4 hours of the expansion but its great knowing i have at least 20 more hours of content from shattered space to play. the dev should never cater to a small minority of disgruntled gamers who cant accept that people like a game they don’t!!!
anyways I’m slaying demons in vessel of hatred and running mythic+ dungeons on wow but also playing space marine 2 along side Starfield enjoying my gaming time. that seems more enjoyable than moaning about a game that clearly wasn’t made for you if you dislike it so much!!! Side note.. looking forward down the line to playing Starwars Outlaws and Dragon Age later this year as well as Stalker 2, Indiana Jones, MSFS 2024 career mode.. it is really easy to be positive and talk about positive things in gaming rather than being negative!!
who would of thought!!!!
Damn i thought Dustborn was a good game. That one hurt.
Just like you never give yourself a nickname, you never call yourself the G.O.A.T., you put your own product on the same pedestal as your other fantastic products. You leave all that up to the fans. You let your friends give you a nickname, you let fans call you the G.O.A.T., and you let fans put your game on the same pedestal as your other fantastic games.
The fact that fans are not viewing Starfield in the same light as Fallout and Elder Scrolls should tell you something regardless of how you as a Dev Studio feels about Starfield.
A technical marvel? These guys are joking around 😂
“This is a new IP, we took a risk and made the greatest sci fi RPG ever”
Just remember that Mass Effect was also a new IP sci fi RPG that came out in *2007* and is the *actual* best sci fi RPG ever made
Ahhh luke, the bestfriend cliche
“bgs” 🤡
They sold us the fat from the cutting room floor for $30.
the problem is they got their money and dont care. this goes for every other company that is out of touch but keeps making profits
People don’t have to like Starfield just enough people have to like it. It doesn’t have to be for every single person.
The Elder Scrolls 6 is probably one of the most anticipated games of all time. It will never live up to the hype and expectations. If all they do is take the Skyrim formula, transplant it into a new setting with modern graphics and a couple new mechanics, that will be enough for me.
I am loving this video a lot because it’s telling the truth, it’s not just BGS but many other big companies that are using these tactics nowadays and they don’t care about what people say.
I have been saying this for years but yes, the only way to make these big game companies listen is to literally not buy anything that they make. It’s the only way to directly let them know that they are garbage, if they are making money instead, they literally don’t care about anything else, feedback, fans, nothing…
BGS just has Rockstar level ambitions, development times, and expectations, but without the history of meeting that same quality bar. I don’t think it’s healthy at all for the industry to keep chasing GTA 5, and I sincerely worry for GTA 6 because the landscape has changed so dramatically that people forget how many bugs tend to exist in Rockstar games, and how even the masters may not be able to live up to their own legacy in a landscape that now values handcrafted curation, performance, and polish over size and quantity.
Bethesda zealots are unhappy. Space lunatics (such as myself) are unhappy.
WHO is this game for Emil?
I started playing disco elysium for the first time 2 days ago… I’ve already logged in more hours on it then I did starfield a year ago! BTS is out of touch
Emil blocked me btw
This is what no accountability looks like
Every subgenre and genre of game exists because at some point someone did it first. The criticism that no one else has done it is not a good criticism because if we’re going to use that as criticism then no sub-genre of game should exist ever because no one should ever try anything new.
Also, if we make a checklist of features performance graphics and we compare every Bethesda game that they’ve made, Starfield probably is the best game they currently made. May not like it but when it comes to graphics performance amount of bugs. You can break it down to multiple subcategories and I bet Starfield comes out on top in vast. Majority of them not liking a game does not mean it was the best game that they’ve made objectively speaking, not subjectively speaking. You not liking it Is subjective the game physically being better by every metric is objective.
Also, other games are allowed to be niche. Why isn’t Starfield allowed to be niche? I absolutely fucking hate souls games part of which is the difficulty but the Creator of souls games like the difficulty, even if that difficulty drives people away from the game and people praise him for sticking to concepts in his games that he wants in his games and not changing it no matter what anyone says. Even if it would make the game more mainstream have more people play it. For some reason when Bethesda says that we’ve created the game that we’ve wanted to create the way we want it to be. Oh, they’re just horrible for that.
What I want Emil to explain is why the Starfield universe is so toothless and sterile with very little conflict between major factions. Like Fallout 4 had faction conflicts all over. The “boy scouts” of the Brotherhood of Steel’s main objective is to kill all Synths and the Institute, and the Railroad ends up in their crosshairs too. In Starfield it’s like “Oh there’s one big fight at the end of the Crimson Fleet questline. But don’t worry, nobody else cares if you side with the pirates (besides the Constellation dweebs whining at you). It’s completely self-contained.” They completely squander the alternate universe thing and let you play all angles.
I’m seeing a few people across social media, one or two of which I USED to follow, that are just flabbergasted at the negative criticism and just can’t process the situation. They claim it’s all a review bombing hate train, and that “well I like it and think it’s great, so keep your criticism to yourself and shut up about it and go away. Stupid head. Okay.” Sure, there absolutely are haters of the game that make equally boneheaded statements that they can’t back up about some of the most stupid stuff to say is bad about the game. It just baffles me that there are people that GENUINELY think the DLC is just the most amazing thing ever and thinks any of the negative criticism is unfounded, overblown, and just attention seekers getting “hate clicks”.
I really did like Starfield and finished the game last year. New Game plus disappointed me though so I quit playing. When I had heard though the Shattered Space DLC was set on Varuun, I was intrigued. Unfortunately, the DLC was WAY underwhelming and I think it’s actually lazy writing. Now that I’ve had time to reflect on it I realized BGS has missed a unique opportunity here. Wouldn’t it be cool if you initially played Shattered Space (and this could be done in original campaign or new game plus, the important thing is the game notes the FIRST TIME you play it) THEN you go through the unity after completing the DLC, when you arrive in this new universe, you could head to Varuun and the DLC changes from recovery from the disaster to trying to PREVENT the disaster. Of course, the more time you spend in the new universe before arriving in Varuun may mean you are too late in stopping it. That might have made up for the other missteps in the DLC (like NPS having no reaction to Andreja or vice versa, that is what really pissed me off).
I played this video at 2x speed it still felt slow 😭
The way you said “Because I’m a fan, dumbass.” In such a gentle parent way was genuinely funny. The ship metaphor was also really good.
Starfield is the equivalent of Mr Krabs hyping up his “Krabby Land” kids playground. And then the curtain is pulled back to reveal its just a bunch of 2x4s nailed together. But there’s still Krabby the Clown! The guy who’s gonna blow your socks off because there’s so much character to him!
Shattered Space is Krabby the Clown.
I actually do spend a lot of hours on a single save, because I get attached to the characters story. You can’t have an endless story for a character because it needs the human touch. I believe that time in the game really doesn’t matter, what matters is what you take away from it. I would rather play a game with a great hour long story than a 3000 hour long story with nothing but procedurally generated content.
Delusional game devs man. Star fields problem is it is designed bad. The quest are better than fallout 4 but still bad they are not designed around the idea that space is a loading screen, instead of taking advantage of all the environments they made like the city of neon they want you to jump around everywhere, leave a planet load 2 screens just to have a 4 minute conversation with someone and then leave. I play Bethesda games for their well written sidequest not their main quest ever, and while starfield is better than fallout 4 to me rpg wise it’s still not a good rpg same as cyberpunk but I’ll stay cyberpunk has a good main quest while starfield is just a better rpg experience cause it has more content, 2 flawed games that can learn from eachother.
There is zero hope for ES6. BGS should be revising everything they are doing internally right now, but it seems that they are pretty content with what they are doing, Emil is absolutely fine with the quality presented, after all he says some people love the game, that seems to be enough for BGS nowadays.
There is no chance in hell ES6 is a good game. None.
I only played it because i got the deluxe edition on launch. That being said its not worth more then 10$ i beat the story and got all the achievements in 7 hours. They could have done a lot more with the religious faction
“It’s because I’m a fan dumbass”
FR, like imagine starfield has just one cave the size of blackreach. 🤦🏽♂️ cmon man we’re rooting for you like that really mean dad who talked shit to you but always invested in you.
There’s a lot of cool shit in the background, damn.
Sad this is the same company that made shivering Isles expansion for Oblivion.
I may be a hard-core bgs fan but shattered space was done very poorly.
Emil is such an unserious character that I am sure if asked he would say that what he said was “Starfield is our best game in SOME ways”. Which is true that’s what he said but what is Starfield the best at compared to every other game bgs has made? Graphics I guess which are absolutely meaningless, the gunplay? I guess but we only have fallout to compare to which is infamous for terrible gunplay. To me Starfield’s gunplay is mediocre and inferior to every single major FPS I can think of but it’s not bad. So what exactly was Starfield the best at?
They suck again o no
People have become accustomed to toxic positivity, so it becomes second nature
5000+ hour run? That would be a bit hard to do when you are constantly changing your mods, i mean it’d work if Bethesda fixed their engine, the bugs, and restored features they keep cutting.
Though normally i think people probably only do about 100+ hours depending on what mods they want to use and as long as everything is holding together.
What is with Emil pretending Starfield matches Fallout and Elder Scrolls? Unless they can pull a No Man’s Sky (i doubt that’d happen with current Bethesda) Starfield can’t be salvaged.
Radiant Quests to give you more content isn’t a bad idea, it’s just badly executed. The content is on the Generic side, and Rewards are mediocre at best.
Starfield missed the mark on so many things.
People who play Bethesda games often like to experience different types of playthroughs, challenging themselves to play a literal role in the game, Fallout 4 really fell flat with that and Starfield was a bout the same where you can only really be a good guy character. They cemented that with Shattered space with ZERO new companions.
Folks also like collecting things, weapons, junk, armor, etc. Getting actually unique things but then Starfield made you lose everthing you’ve collected basically once you beat the game. The whole loop system is dumb when you realize you lost all your collectibles, and with all the unique stuff you can get because they made TONs of unique assets. I spent so much time building my houses to feel lived in with all the junk I found. Despite its quirks I really tried to like Starfield but it spits on your face at every turn.
Starfield is an amazing game. I do use my imagination to help me have fun. But that’s what I do with everything in life. People with no imagination don’t like the game
05:08 Hearing this is depressing when you know that elite dangerous released on the Xbox One including the Horizons Expansion this was in 2016
I wouldn’t say I hated Starfield… I can live with the bland ship flying and the loading screens but the main problem I find is that the world of starfield just doesnt hit like the world of Fallout or Elder Scrolls. I don’t find the characters as likeable, the worlds feel empty and idk it just doesnt have that exploration like Bethesda’s other big hitters.
I thought the graphics, the physics and the combat felt good. Things like the gore could use a bit more.
The elderscrolls 6 will be an rpg similar to that of Skyrim. Dumbed-down mechanics, as to appeal to the mindless masses, poor consequences, no reputations system, linear quest design, millennial reddit tier writing/dialogue, the implementation of identity politics, bad character creator, and poor optimization.
As a business owner it’s downright baffling how Bethesda can straight up ignore any negative feedback. As long as they keep selling nothing will change. I’d love it if an interviewer actually held Todd’s feet to the fire and asked some hardball questions.
Every day I’m so glad that I was never that hyped for Starfield. I feel bad for people that were excited just to be disappointed over and over again. As soon as they went the NASA-punk no aliens in a huge galaxy route, I knew this game was making major mistakes. It’s missing the charm and creativity of Elder Scrolls and Fallout, and isn’t even technically impressive compared to No Man’s Sky. I don’t know what they were thinking.
My fellow americans, if I am elected president I will use the power of imminent domain to seize both the Fallout and Elder Scrolls IP, and let Obsidian have their way with them
I mean… it really is their top three.
Skyrim, Fallout4, and Starfield are the same game reskinned.
🙁 btw
Edit: It was unplayable on PC. I knew it was gonna be bad when they blamed my hardware out of date on launch. starfield was actually unplayable, crashed regularly and I couldn’t get a refund.
Grats Quinn for beating the game and getting all the achievements and streaming it then getting your money back o/
Bethesda can’t keep designing games and expansions like its 2011 anymore, they need to realize that the industry – especially the RPG industry – has grown past the point where Skyrim was one of the genre’s finest.
I do think that Bethesda has the capability to make great games, but I do not think they currently have the capability to make good RPGs.
I think Starfield is fine. Its their first real science fiction space game game so they will take the feedback from this game and Starfield 2, if it gets made, will be better than SF1. People just overreact to everything these days.
Emil is a full-time body builder and during his free time, he likes to write some silly stuff into the drawer, like RADIATION SALEM WITCHES FOR FALLOUT. He is such a silly guy, love him :^)
The Bethesda hate is real. Move on then.
Id rather wait 100 years for Star Citizen to be completed than play 1 hour of StarField.
At this point I would disagree that Emil “cares”. He doesn’t really care, otherwise we wouldn’t be getting generic low-effort slops such as this. If I actually cared and made something of this quality, I would be ashamed. He wants people to think that he cares, which is typical corporate mind trick games, and it’s this sort of BS that pisses me off, and makes me not buy anything from such people ever again. And the fan feedback he “listens to”, is the “love the game, BGS awesome”. It just shows.
If Bethesda thinks Starfield is the best game they’ve ever made, then I don’t think I have any hope for TES 6……😞
I think people are just now starting to notice how delusional it is to mod the shit out of a game and THEN claim its one of the best games ever. Skyrim and falliut 3 are incredibly mediocre at best, people were just starved for rpg, open world games and loved to mod the game to their own needs
Is that a Todd Howard scented candle?
Appreciate everything you are saying here Luke, I agree with pretty much all of it. I do think that the final clip being used to explain a broader sentiment might be a little bit of a reach. The context that the video was taken, was that any creative making anything has to deal with reviews that can summarise years of work in one damning headline. That it’s way harder to create than it is to critique. Which is true.
However, I agree that it’s a matter of degrees. You have to know WHEN to start listening to the critiques. There comes a point. They have an uphill battle to climb with public perception, and shattered space aint gunna fix that, and someone needs to see the wood from the trees
They are correct IMO. I want to live in their worlds. I dont want the game to end ever. Im one of the most OG players too. I’ve been obsessed with Bethesda games since the day Morrowind came out.
That said… Shattered Space is WAY TOO SMALL. We have been spoiled by Bloodmoon, Far Harbor, Tribunal, and other massive expansions.
man, hearing those quotes from emil… theres no way these people are that out of touch or that high on their own gas that they can’t see reality… so weird. Also, ‘an experience that never ends’? weird takeaway from people being upset that their character died at the end of a game mostly because it was forced, contrived and forced you to reload a save and backtrack so you could tie off your loose end quests…. this guy is DUMB
Everytbj is pointing to the gaming industry devs. Leroy not being as skilled as they used to be. The talent has remarkably dropped in most triple a studios. We keep repeatedly hearing the wrong answers overs and over again
yup, this. not even interested in another expansion. just going back to fo and es… not the online ones.
He didn’t say it was the best game they ever made, he said “in a lot of ways, …” I don’t know how anyone can disagree with this. In terms of shooting, the amount of mechanics, graphics, and many other aspects, it really is the best game they ever made. What he said was true.
Emil just can’t stop fumbling, why do they even allow this guy to speak publically on behalf of Bethesda.
I am so glad i never entertained the thought of buying this game. 😂😂
I do LOVE fallout
13:32 “Optimism and excitement are pretty standard for interviews” The fact people like him believe this (or even just says they believe this) is a good part of what’s wrong with modern media. Screwing up sucks, but trying to pretend there isn’t a dumpster fire when everyone can see the blaze makes you lose more respect than just owning up to your mistakes. A screw up shakes trust in your skill. A blatant lie makes you lose trust period. There’s no reason to believe anything Bethesda says as they try to regain audience trust in their skill.
ur voice is pretty, can u sing? u could be the next ringo
I’ve finished the Fallout games countless times. I’ve finished the elder scroll games countless times. I’ve finished Starfield……..once. And it became the game that stopped me pre-ordering games. Now I wait for full reviews before I part with my money
Thank You for supporting Todd Howard’s Retirement Fund.
Some calling this the best expansion they ever did is… Ho boy… I’m not a the biggest fallout-guy (didn’t play Far Harbor), but saying this when they pushed out the “Shivering Isles”, where I was truly stunned several times – be it from story or comedy -… Thats flatout insane. I still quote some of Sheogoraths lines till today. One of the best expansions ever
Thank you for continuing to be critical of BGS. I started with TES Morrowind. Bethesda doesn’t deserve another dollar from me until they get their head out of their ass. I feel for all the devs that want to make the game great and are being held back by ignorant management. I want to see an Elder Scrolls 6 that excites me and brings me back around to Bethesda. I don’t think that’ll happen without a major shift in leadership.
Imagine thinking that Starfield was unique. Like no Starfield was just bad skyrim in space. That’s not a new experience that’s just copying what you have already done before in a new IP.
Bethesda been trying really hard over the last 15 years to not get my money, and they’re getting better and better at it I’ll tell ya!
I have voted with my wallet in not supporting shattered space. A 5000 hour save file in any bethesda game is a dicey proposition. 😂 My own personal dream is that Microsoft pays Larian to give me another isometric fallout game.😮
Todd tells the sweetest lies.
we’re sinking now, but NO one ever mentions the hard work that went into the wonderful buffets the ship had. people worked their butts off and there are many others that people NEVER see who worked behind the scenes and are completely unappreciated….it makes me sad and frankly…disappointed by the mass of negative comments coming from the passengers….
Nothing to see here people…..just another gaming youtuber with an opinion. Blablabla
Luke I’m gonna be 100% with you: Emil is the most overrated hack writer the videogame industry has right now and for a long time.
I want Fallout 5 next. And Starfield was just a mediocre game.
I enjoyed starfield for a bit… But it didnt take long to get bored of it. I went back to it eventually, finished the main story line but man was it hard. I was literally at a point where I would start falling asleep while playing it. If that isn’t bad idk what is. Also one of the last things you said about “if they make money who cares about the reviews?” that’s not a problem with just BGS, that’s a serious problem with the gaming industry as a whole. Some devs actually want to fix it and make it better but A LOT don’t.
Highly concerned for the elder scrolls when people at the top talk like this
I think they really shot themselves in the foot by releasing the Rev-8 early. If it had been packed into the expansion, it would’ve been frustrating for different reasons but probably saved the score to a 65 or 70, maybe. Seems like maybe they wanted to lean on it pretty heavy, and I think it actually might’ve kinda worked, in a messed up way
Hello Games, a dev team of like 30 people at the time, made a procedurally generated space sim in like 2016 and he’s claiming THIS is a technical marvel? gtfo
The reason big studios respond like this is because if you were an investor of them, would you rather hear ‘Yeah we made a terrible product’, or would you rather be convinced it’s the consumers being unreasonable and not enjoying this ‘unique experience’. It’s all PR double speak and there’s no way they could be that disconnected from the failure of their product.
BGS, Todd and Emil aren’t your friends. Never have been and never will, just like every company in existence.
“Fallout 7 on the Creation 2 engine feels like is it was made in 2043 for the PS9 Pro. totally outdated for this era of gaming. Bethesda needs to update their engines to Creation 3 to be able to make something new, something fresh” – Luke Stephens 2057
biggest maybe, but richest is a joke. RIch would mean there is exciting things hidden everywhere, which there is absolutely nothing in 99% of everywhere. The fact is Starfield could be good with a phantom libery overhaul where they flesh out the content that feels missing, but they obviously don’t want to put in the work As I see it they are more or less abandoning their “best game ever made” and moving to the next thing. I’m not buying the nxt one at this poin even if its better out of principle. I was so mad after preordering fallout 76 (yes the steelbook edition to place next to my fallout 4 steelbook and others…. I also have the starfield steelbook so jokes really on me). TO be clear i’m more upset about preordering a 30 dollar dlc that could have improved things instead of being 10 dollars of content from any other dev adding absolutely nothing to the actual game. It’s more like a standalone short story. Starfield itself needs to have content filled in to actually be good instead of just “ok”. It’s impressive how out of touch they continue to be.
My excitement for Bethesda games died after the launch of 76
I played star field for 3 hours and knew it was a snooze fest and only played 2 more hours since my friend said to give it more of a chance. Uninstalled it after that and am glad I got it for free.
The game has flaws no doubt, I have to use neutral LUT’s which I had never even heard of before or the game is a hazy mess! It still is terribly hazy in the ship except the cockpit. Frame generation for the 4090’s does not work quite right, at least for me it feels like walking through water, you get the resistance moving forward then the slight push from behind catching up. it sucks. Only 2 games that I have that do not implement frame generation correctly, this and Gollum lol. Another point is who cares what a die hard Skyrim player thinks of a space opera? Two different genres and not enough acknowledgment of that!
responded or melted down
It just works
how many times, even the same company, can “learn” the lesson that they should listen to player feedback….i discard hearing this new found epiphany whenever i hear it because they couldn’t possibly have been that stupid before and been functional adults.
Did Luke just say he keeps a cardboard cutout of Todd in the bedroom?…
I guess no one at BGS played or seen Mass Effect Andromeda if they think that Starfield offers anything new to console players…
They’re almost the same game.
If Starfield really was as claimed I would have bought a new system for it if needed. A hard science Traveller like rpg would get my time and dollars if done well.
Boring, bland expansion for a boring, bland game.
Emil isn’t the only problem at Bethesda, but he sure is one of the biggest and most obvious albatrosses around that studio’s neck.
I bought a new PC for starfield. I bought the $100 version even though I have gamepass (for mods). I got near the end of the story and don’t think I’ll ever boot it up again. It’s just a bad game.
Every time you read from the article all I could hear was “spin, spin, spin, spin, spin”
WAIT
WHY IS THE CARDBOARD CUT OUT IN YOUR BEDROOM?!?!?!?!
Eventually no one will be listening or playing their games, really hope they loose everything or to a point where some real people can get in there and actually make some good games
I can’t even imagine playing GTA 6, then fancying the new DLC for Starfield, just to remind myself of how shockingly bad their design is these days. I don’t even need to play GTA 6 to come to that conclusion, Shattered Space really did fuck me on that.
“maybe one day it will be at that level”
but considering the amount of work they’ve been putting in it over the year, it will never be.
Western studios are obsessed with eternal, total positivity, or as its now called “toxic positivity”.
nothing good can come out of this.
“We’ve also been hearing from players that liked the game.” ~ Emil P.
That statement has the same energy as:
“We got a lot of feedback about Star Wars Battlefront; a lot of it positive, and a bunch of it constructive.” ~ Andrew WIlson, CEO of EA, E3 2017
And then EA proceeded to release Star Wars Battlefront II in 2019.
I’m not saying ES6 is going to be as bad as Star Wars Battlefront II, but if Emil and the rest of Bethesda keep up this attitude going into it, they might just pull off something worse.
Hmm it’s 30+hrs with all the side quests 🤣 ..bashing for clicks, it’s about the same length as far harbour lol
If Emil was sent to CDpr studios or FromSoft I think he would lose his shit.
i delved into the bethesdas fanboys subreddits to see how they tick. in one, disscusion was non existent, its pure hate towards any critisism, and my post would be removed. in another, i was not silenced immediately and was able to ask some question have some a disscussions.
the biggest fanboys do think starfield is the best RPG ever made, they say things like its better than morrowind in every way. they actually think with bethesda removing RPg mehcaincs and features, has made starfield a better RPG. they think video game RPGs are boiled down to pretending, thats their litteraly words. if they can pretend to be a character, its a full-fledge RPG.
however, some do concede that its very lackluster despite liking it. but thats the minority.
Bethesda makes “games” for this new audience they have fostered, because it allows them to make the laziest slop, and these people will defend it as the actual best RPG. that is who Emil and Tod are talking to. so they do know what their fans like.
in all reality, they are just Pretending they are RPGs.
we all have to stop being frustrated with Bethesda, they are willingly shedding their previous core fans, for the new fans. we will never get old Bethesda back, like we will never get old Blizzard or anything else back. ES6 is gonna be slop, and again, its gonna be the best RPG in the world to them.
also, shattered space has worse steam reviews than gollum, while everyone knows gollum IS a worse game, that is utterly embarrassing
Statfield had “Potential” good story and lord but they failed every step of the way
Emil Paganoche is such a hoot. Everytime I hear about what he says, it makes me think of the Oblivion NPCs IRL videos
The fact that this cost as much as Phantom Liberty is wild.
I always give a game a chance. I gave Starfield a 700+ hour chance back when it launched. I’m not giving that game a single second more. I’d rather play RDR2 on single player searching for the 3rd meteorite that may not even exist.
Emil is why people may trust AI to make game stories some day. He doesn’t care about feedback, doesn’t change, and defends his content without ever planning.
The beautiful thing about writing is planning, changing! This guy just ignores it! He invented “Keep It Simple Stupid”! He doesn’t try!
Just because some players don’t care about your story, doesn’t mean YOU SHOULDNT TRY!
Forgot his name, the story guy for Arena took the feedback for Arena and changed, and made Daggerfall’s Stort intricate, complex, and sprawling! Emil just goes smaller and smaller!
I dunno how they got the idea that folks don’t want to stop playing from Broken Steel. People just want to be able to end their characters’ stories on THEIR TERMS, whether that’s at the conclusion of the main quest or elsewhere.
Endless quests/procgen content are just tedium that will only ever serve as filler to the hand-crafted content. Even small children have the capacity to recognize patterns and predict outcomes – that’s a fundamental part of our nature. Only in games where the procgen plays into the challenge (such as in rogue-likes) does it feel like it serves a good purpose.
I feel like Bethesda’s decisions are less about making something fun and more about trying to please everyone, and that only makes their content worse in the long run.
“Shockingly short” title of Todd Howards autobiography and or sex tape
If they want credit for working hard release it for free then
If this is current Bethesda’s best, then their best isn’t good enough 😂
The perfect DLC for a bland ass game. How the mighty have fallen…
Shattered space. Aka shattered fan base.
Just to preface that this is not a criticism but I’m honestly baffled that anyone could finish the main questline in 5ish hours. I’ve spent more than that following it and I’m not anywhere near done with it. This has to be a playstyle and or level thing. My major complaint for Starfield is not that it isn’t as good as Skyrim or FO4 it’s that it’s not significantly better and in some ways regressive.
9:20 Yeah, this is an important point. It reminds me of Bioware’s complete boneheaded stupidity with the end of Mass Effect 3 killing off Shepard more or less and then going, “But the DLC is coming that takes place in the past, whee!” It’s not that people want to play the same save file forever. It’s that they don’t want the ending to come out of left field and make their whole playthrough feel pointless and them like idiots for playing the game in the first place. Games that end in a way that invalidates everything that came before suck. Period. Same goes for any narrative really. If you make your consumers feel like morons for investing in your product, they won’t keep coming back.
I think Bethesda end up like Ubisoft. People already understand their lies, after fallout 76, starfield and now this dlc they lost 50% of costumers and the rest will be extremely cautious before buying elder scrolls 6
and the god of war dlc was free…
They need to abandon that shit engine
I think Bethesda is just stuck in the past sadly
When you forget to do your homework and passionately defend your project you made in back of the bus.
BGS is never going to change until the leadership steps down and new blood takes over. And who cares about a subset of fans and their opinions? There are idiots that bought the “new” NCAA game from EA thinking it wouldn’t be a copy of Madden. People are dumb and will buy dumb things then defend their dumb decisions.
I feel like we should talk about the fact that they had to make their own version of the outer worlds I want to make my own video about it they just tried to catch up and failed miserably
I put about 50 hours into Snorefield, then realised I was bored senseless and uninstalled it.
I think it’s pretty concerning how Bethesda can’t let you be a bad guy at the end of Shattered Space. Like not even a cinematic just a forced reload on the last checkpoint.
It really make me appreciate something like the Durge character origin in Baldur Gate 3
Starfields only chance of survival is to put it on ps5. I wouldn’t be surprised if this game was the reason they started putting games on the ps5
Corporate bloat and bureaucratic nonsense stifles creativity and passion. I’m looking at you, Ubisoft, Bethesda and Dice.
So many SALTY ponies on here…..😂😂😂😂
We need to turn the switch off from starfield
Back in the day, I was dumb enough to believe Bethesda and used my meager funds saved up for months to get the Collector’s Edition, hoping the hyped-up included Watch would actually somewhat resemble the one ingame, and more than that for getting the addon included… on both fronts now extremely disappointed, to the point of considering it at best false advertising.
The only cool thing about the collector’s edition remains the case, that at least is well made and can be used for other stuff than storing the 10 bucks cheap ass “smart” watch thankfully.
All in all this taught me never ever to pre-order any Bethesda product ever again.
Elden Ring raised the bar for DLCs this year. They have to be big for big AAA games
Starfield is a very good game. 👍 People just like to whine…..😂😂😂
As a huge Bethesda fan i have no hope. Fallout 76 was shit. Starfield was shit. I am willing to bet Elder Scrolls VI will be shit.
I refuse to pay for any of there mods let alone buy another one of there games until they have been out for while and moders fix them
Dude, this is a little bit patheic, to shove in GDC clip onto every bethesda video. Did they stop inviting you to their events or something?
I just want more skyrim at the time it seemed like it was just the beginning then time stood still and now it’s starfield and concord
“Jam into Xbox the Biggest, richest Space simulation RPG anyone could imagine.” did he forget about Elite: Dangerous or no man’s sky? sure frontier gave up on the console versions of Elite, and No Man’s Sky was originally a PlayStation exclusive, and that both aren’t “RPGs”, either way starfield doesn’t compete with those two in space simulations.
I hopped on my brothers account and beat shattered space in three hours. Absolutely took my time completing every quest I found. People are getting double, triple my time and being told they rushed it? Did they play it? Very few quests so I’m not sure how many hours people are expecting with how empty this planet is. Like I could spend hours mining on the planet and killing the same respawning enemies, but that’s not content nor any different than anywhere else in the game. Shattered space flat out only has three hours of content shattered space can call it’s own. I’m paying this expansion minimum wage to play it essentially
The issue, is that Bethesda games never changed. The only thing that changed, was the soul. The magic, and the feel of the game. That bland, vanilla, corporate stuff just doesn’t mix well with their terrible engine.
We are cooked
People do not “tolerate” Starfield. It’s trash. ES6 is completely screwed.
there’s nothing beautiful about seagulls rats with wings
i mean….even Luke said “i think it is the best game bethesda game studios has made in a lot of ways” at the 1 minute mark of the day 1 review
Anyone remember Tribunal and Bloodmoon for Morrowind? Fairly big storylines, quite a lot of new stuff, pretty big new areas, certainly not something you go through in a day.
But then they were proper expansion packs. And now this, a glorified DLC being pushed as a big expansion? Effing hell.
BGS are dead to me. They’ve gone the way of Blizzard. Nothing but hubris and the inability to see how they have lost their spark.
AAA has been crap for years, indi games are where the magic is now for me.
Microsoft has gotta bend Xbox Division’s arm and make them shutter any Bethesda Homegrown Products.
if starfield was good, camelworks and fudgemuppet would have 100 build and lore videos by now. The Bethesda channels are dead dead
RIP Elder Scrolls.
My favorite series is doomed.
I put about 200 hours into standard Starfield, and maybe had fun for about 20-30 hours of it. I played the rest because I was trying to give it a chance in the lore and world building but those hours just made me bored more than anything.
The worlds of Fallout or Elder Scrolls are just well built and are riddled with interesting stuff to explore. Starfield only had a few interesting bits, one of them was the war that literally just ended in the game. Another was house Var’ruun and the trailer for Shattered Space was literally just a copy pasta of the rest of the factions with different color scheme and a ghostly overlay, so it was a hard pass. Maybe if they added more gameplay elements like vampirism from Dawnguard or a thought-provoking story in Far Harbor that had multiple factions. Starfield was just too bland and had many worldbreaking things happen in the main quest itself. That’s just my opinion.
The response from Bethesda just proves that they don’t really care about why people don’t like it and it’s making me worried as a fan for their future projects. Appreciate your video Luke!
Bethesda knew they were in trouble . Why do you think they got bought out
Ain’t no way they were bringing up Far Harbor from Fallout 4 compared to that DLC that’s wild, Far Hourbor wipes the for with Starfield and Shattered Space combined
“It may be that 95% of players hate it, but hey, there’s lots of things in the world that 95% of people hate. Life’s just a bowl of cherries, ya know? I think this was the best DLC we’ve ever made.”
Even Bethesda hardcore fans are out of touch. Had one tell me I didn’t like the game because I’m not mature enough to enjoy the nuances of a deep emotional story and can’t handle anything with substance…. What.
The only positive thing I can say for Elder Scoll 6 is at least we know it’s going to be one big map so hopefully at least the exploration will be good because that was kinda the only real thing Bethesda was better at than everyone.
Our only hope is Microsoft… Bethesda clearly doesn’t care, but maybe Microsoft will be very unhappy with their games and force change with new hires……….. So basically theres no hope
He’s completely in his own echo chamber if he thinks people shouldnt compare games. Has he watched a single review?
Comparison is the cornerstone of explaining something new.
Is it reductive to say Starfield is Fallout in Space? YES.
Is it totally accurate? ALSO YES.
We start with comparing to the known, then examining the differences.
For him to say something so stupid means he was either being ghost written, or he is that stupid.
Bethesda is the next Ubisoft; too far up their own ass to save their company.
“safely”? brother, this aint construction lmao
Emil saying they achieved the best space simulation ever is a baffling statement when No Man’s Sky exists truly delusional
I actually think shattered space is as intended. the intention … was flawed
So I don’t need to stop playing LoreRim 2.0 with 3600+ mod Skyrim modlist with its own autoinstaller to play Starfield?1
Reality is ego got to big. They probably unironically think they are the best, and that nobody understands what they create. I fear Bethesda will only realise once they go bankrupt. Hopefully Ubisoft dying is a wake up call for these studios. Most likely not tho.
Just play Rune Scape if you want a good space rpg
The biggest problem I had with Starfield was that you constantly attack humans, no aliens within the whole game. The thing is it cant compare to Skyrim as you have different races, species, animals, etc. Starfield – just humans = boring. I have 500hrs in the game as well – so its not like I only played it for 5 mins.
I played the DLC for about 15 mins and got so bored. I just haven’t had the desire to continue. I will never Pre-Order anything again! What a waste of money. I loved the game as a single play through. It just doesn’t have me coming back yet. Maybe Fallout 5 will bring me back into the fold but that is really far off. I’m not into the played out sword & sorcery games, so I’ll skip Elder scrolls. Sigh, they even broke Fallout 4.
17:16 hoopdee doodee
AAA games and Hollywood have been gulping some copium lately
There is more than TWICE the amount of people playing Skyrim on steam today than their is playing Starfield. Their “best work yet” can’t even beat a decade old game.
What keyboard is that? It is beautiful!
Bethesda is a circle jerk. They are completely invested in the idea of their own brilliance. They believe people will just eat up whatever they slop out and they think people will forgive them anything. They are sorely mistaken. TES6 will likely sell bucket loads just on the name, but in a post Fallout76/Starfield world, it also might not.
THEY should BE getting …worried. Todd AND Emil. The, sweet “little” lies AREN’T working anymore. The FREE PASSES are getting fewer and FARTHER between. I FEAR for …ANY future productions but they SHOULD BE…worried.
I enjoyed the game some what but to say it’s great is a stretch
…not even close to the level of even skyrim and that personally is my bar skyrim is quiet old and idk what all could make starfield awesome but it just lacks the ability to get me invested like skyrim did so many times
It might have been acceptable if it was short but good. Short but very interesting. At least you’d be left wanting more. But that’s not the case, Starfield was boring, Shattered Space was just more boring. As an entertainment product it just fails in its core premiss of proving entertainment especially when you consider the alternatives.
Is this a reupload? This came out like 2-3 days ago
More like Shartered space
Emil is part of the problem (so is Todd!) if they truly believe the corpo-speak coming out of their mouths.
Microsoft could force a release schedule if they really wanted to… So far seems they don’t care
Shattered Space is so baffling because in general, the story is just more boring Starfield. It’s a standard bethesda faction questline, except the baseline universe and characters of Starfield are so uninteresting that the conventional bethesda format doesn’t matter. Far Harbor was good because Fallout 4 actually had engaging concepts and characters because the first characters that people think of with Far Harbor is NICK VALENTINE.
Far Harbor introducing DiMA was actually interesting because Nick Valentine was so beloved in the Fallout 4 fanbase in the first place. And having another gen 2 synth character is interesting to have dynamics and/or parallels with Nick.
this is “we’re sorry you’re upset with us” to the max. but so long as people continue to purchase it, they’ll keep making it.
New vegas is the best bethesda game
9:15 i do want a skyrim game where i play it for thousands of hours. I want to larp. The herika mod that gives you a chatgpt powered companion is everything i want.
Shat Turd Space
I hadn’t played any BGS games until I saw promotions for Starfield. It was right up my alley so I bought the premium edition. I put in a lot of hours into the game & I genuinely like it. However, had I not gotten Shattered Space as part of the initial purpose & paid $30 for it now, I would be pissed. The DLC feels like it was in the original game with some updates they did after the fact. In no way, shape or form, is that DLC worth $30. And also, imo, I bought & played Fallout 4 (after watching the Amazon show) & there’s just something about their games that seems lackluster. Graphically they are horrible but also the creativity aspect. Like the look & feel of the game, reminds me of early 90s games or something. For example, for Starfield, you could have had a wrist watch that projected a holograph of the surrounding map & star system. For first person, the edge of your screen could have been a helmet with updating O2 meters & health bar, etc. Think Ironman’s helmet. I don’t see them as being an innovative company. I doubt I’ll ever buy a BGS game again.
Starfields next massive sized dlc Will be a small space station where the main quest completion for it will be 1 hour, 1 new weapon, a speeder bike and one boring npc. It will be 40 dollars
For 10 more dollars you can buy shadow of the erdtree
Xbox has been taking Ls left, right and centre this generation 😅
Toxic positivity. Or refusal of reality. Either way, their next game will fail, if they don’t change course
I played Starfield for about 2 hours when it came out. I stopped when I realized I didn’t want to play it for another 40+ hours
I put over 120 hours into it. I got to my 10 rebirths and got the black armor. I had a…time in the game. It was more like I just shut off my brain and did actions that I mostly don’t remember. I still say I enjoyed my time with the game, even if I’m not really sure I did. I have no even thought about buying this DLC and i would not recommend anybody even play Starfield though. There’s too much wrong with the core game. It will never be fixed.
They are such scammers, this was cut content. They need to learn the Ubisoft lesson!
No one at Bethesda cares. Starfield still sold millions of copies and Howard and this Emil guy are worth tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars. Stop buying Bethesda slop and letting them waste your time.
Starfield is just a boring, mediocre game. Even Outer Worlds is a much better space themed RPG
Xenoblade Chronicles X for the WII FREAKING U is a 10x better Starfield game (RPG that takes place in space and has emphasis on scale and exploration)
Why is ‘Starfield’ in quotes lol?
Starsector is quality…starfield is dogshit
They more than made their Money on it. So no reason for them to change, that’s how the world works. When the truth hits them it will be too late, just like Ubisoft is learning right now.
When the ONLY outlet blowing smoke up your backside is a console fanboy-centric site, it’s a VERY bad sign.
Starfield breaks my heart i had high hopes the starwars genesis mod is doing a great job erasing bgs shit turd.
I don’t think they have the operational bandwidth for 3 big franchises. We shouldn’t have no information of TES6 6 years on from the announcement.
They took the absolute worst lesson from the feedback to the FO3 ending, but it does explain why they put so much of their work into vacuous, shallow, endless content since then.
Didn’t FO3 also have an issue that made it unplayable on PC (or at least steam) for several years? Something something 2 nickels something something happened twice. Although iirc, I think in that situation it wasn’t Bethesda’s fault it broke, they just took a long time to fix the issue.
I think Bethesda is operating too much in their own bubble. Fan expectations aren’t just based on the history on Bethesda titles, they’re also based on general game improvements over the last decade and a half, which they largely avoid utilizing.
Bethesda just seems like a company that doesn’t know how to function anymore, the reason to me why they have to shill Starfield so hard is because they can’t do anything much. Starfield is not a guaranteed success to have to invest so much in, they do not have the ability to MAKE Starfield truly great, and their development times are INFLATED even if the product doesn’t justify it.
Bethesda didn’t watch [Yes Woman’s Land] video from Internet Historian I guess.
Did they ever fix the one sniper that can’t reload?
The engine is fine, just make a game with depth on part with skyrim. They have the roadmap
Please make ES6 good. Please don’t go the procedural route. Just make a bigger Skyrim with 3x the content. Give us a new main quest and dlc with 20+ side quests every year – for the love of god just make it good
Bethesda fans hold themselves and the studio back by insisting on that stupid engine. No one but them care about interacting with every sweetroll in the room
Wonder if there would be anyone defending the title if Bethesda wasn’t involved with Microsoft. I keep saying, these guys are more than 10 years stuck in the past, Starfield would mechanicaly already be a dated game if it released 10 years ago, nowadays it feels like playing a remaster of a Windows XP era game. I call it toxic positivity bs.
Out of the games in Bethesda’s portfolio I believe that Fallout New Vegas has the best dlc’s during it’s life cycle.
With the way Todd and Bethesda has spoken about Starfield all these years, the choice of doing 76 and the choice of taking Fallout 4 in the main directions they did. It makes me wonder, did they just get lucky with Skyrim?
People have been talking about Emil being bad for Bethesda for a long time
Rated M for mild
“The richest space simulation rpg anyone could imagine” The planets are all fake and you just land on procedurally generated squares of land based on the biome of the planet lmao
Let’s take a second out of the day to laugh at bugthesda they really thought they could compete with Witcher 3 oh they did a next gen update so will we 😂 and don’t forget before starfield came out Todd was asked what game comes near it and he said red dead redemption 2 omg haha 😂 only in his dreams he can compare to rockstar and the only ppl still supporting them are the same incels that will never admit how bad it really is they are stuck in 2010 forever
Bethesda is fine with mediocrity. Well they won’t be getting any day 1 purchases from me and probably many others if they continue to be dismissive to critiques…
They’re just coasting now, they don’t care anymore. They’ve made their Skyrim money, they got bought out by Microsoft. They just want to coast until they hang their hats
It doesn’t even matter what bethesda does for es6. Short of gutting the studio and starting with actual talented people from scratch. Es6 is cooked and we all know it.
I have 56 hours on Starfield after spending the high price like many to pre-order. I stopped playing as i just wasnt enjoying it, and was more overwhelmed with the dissapointment than anything. I am a slightly older gamer than most and have been playing Bethesda games since the start. This video is 100% correct and we need to keep pushing this feedback to them. I am still a fan, and just hope they improve from here. I will give Starfield another go, i have a few mods. The problem is, i dont have the enthusiasm in the game to play it more than the other games i have on Steam to play. Says it all.
Bethesda is done. It is over.
one word: Toxic positivity is a bane of the industry… what a joke it has become.
What happens when your priority is DEI over actually making a fuggin game.
So true, Cyber Punk 2077 and Phantom Liberty is now a pretty incredible game. I still go back and jump back in from time to time.
As much as Emil seems like a genuine nice person, he’s awful as a writer and needs to take a step back! As bad as FO76 was at launch, the one thing that remains is the original story(before Wastelanders and after as well) in FO76 for example was amazing and made sense and was leaps and bounds better than FO4’s story, what was different? Emil wasn’t a writer for 76 he was a “Design Director”, which is sad because I love FO4 and it was so close to being a masterpiece if only the story and rpg elements werw there!
The funny thing is over on the TES6 subreddit they seem to love Starfield more than anywhere else, even Starfield’s own subreddit shows more criticism towards the game than the TES6 sub. I feel like there’s a very big chunk of people who want TES6, and are completely deluded with the shortcomings on Starfield and simply write it off as “It’s a different game, it won’t happen to TES6” – Even though, the decisions made for Starfield are so mind boggling and stupid that it just makes you contemplate not even just the future of TES but the future of the company.
Emil takes smelling your own farts to a whole new level. The creatives at this company are so high on their own supply. There is no hope for them.
There may be more structurally, but I think Skyrim had more content within it than starfield has. Just feels like less cities, less side quests, less collectables, less variety, etc etc.
I really feel like the modders adding so much longevity to Skyrim and Fallout has given BGS an inflated ego. To me it seems like they take the credit for all the hard work modders do and take it as a sign that them as a studio are the reason the games are still played, not what modders have done.
“absolutely unique on console?” Heard of no mans sky? They did procgen and did it better. Starfield is just a worse NMS, with a half baked, recycled Bethesda story. The star(dragon)born, travels around, collecting powers from temples (word walls). There was (is) a civil war going on. Even the powers are recycled. Worse version of unrelenting force, worse version of whirlwind sprint, slow time is incredible in both games though. No atmospheric flight, load screens in extreme numbers, insufferably shallow companions. Not even a pimple on Skyrim’s ass. I like Starfield for what it is. I’ve played it to the end of my appetite for it. It just doesn’t hold up against the older IP’s. Elder Scrolls>Fallout>…>…>Starfield
Todd Howard is the Chris Davis of game design.
As in the baseball player who had a good year in 2016, got a huge contract, and proceeded to stink out the joint and generally be the worst insult to Baltimore since Big Bill Hell’s.
The moment he said “because I’m a fan dumbass” I actually laughed out loud and my wife opened the YouTube app just to subscribe to the channel. 🤣🤣🤣 Solid gold.
Man I’ve told the game director publicly that I’ll bet whatever he wants that I can make one of those twinkie things and it’ll have a better review than starfield, he’s too scared to respond, pretty sad ngl.
starfield is a good game. shattered space was fun. 🫡
they say its their best game cuz they have no idea what makes their games good anymore. its best bc its bigger and more refined. they dont get theres a reason ppl still play morrowind. i dont think anyone really wants a massive game they just want a good one. its weird that they were the darling of the industry and now i hate their studio the most becaus its everything wrong with a modern game. They are 100% marketing and money driven. And people shuold stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. I was actually unhappy with the cyberpunk backlash, despite its bugs I still could tell it was a great experience and game underneath. modern bethesda games have bugs yet that isn’t even the main issue. I’d rather play a bug ridden Day 1 Cyberpunk with half the city clipped out and my character invisible than starfield
I don’t even think it’s most of the devs fault. Really just the actions of a few in high positions. It would explain why other devs would backtrack what Emile was saying.
Basically: “Oh god what is he doing?! Somebody say something cause this is just not good.”
Bethesda have become a lazy company reliant on its modding community’s hard work to upgrade its games unfortunately so much so they no longer no how to create their own content if they didn’t make this waste of space we may have elder scrolls 6 by now and be modding that into the game it should’ve been
Kingdom Come 2 really looking forward to video. Kingdom Come 2, GTA6, Ghost of Yotei and Mafia old country have me hyped for next year.
I’m like a naive little puppy, and I will be until I play Elder Scrolls 6. I believe it will be good, and if it’s not I will spontaneously combust.
Everything they say just makes me think that they believe if they just act like it’s good for long enough players will suddenly magically believe that it is.
Emil really needs to stop talking to the media. Whether out of arrogance or naivety, he keeps putting his foot in his mouth and just keeps Bethesda’s rep further down.
As if the bottom hasn’t already fallen out of that barrel.
I’m not suprised the expansion is average, I’m surprised people are still buying from this company. Stop rewarding averageness. Touch grass and force these companies to be better instead of rewarding them.
Being told my criticisms aren’t valid because “it’s popular to hate on Starfield” is one of the more irritating things to come out of the Bethesda fanbase. The game is made of pure, distilled missed potential. The base building system is a skeleton of what it was in base fallout 4, you start out as a miner but mining makes so little money you can’t even meaningfully RP starting your own mining business, the leveling system is a strictly worse version of skyrim combined with fallout 4 that makes leveling up a miserable experience, the loading screens and unskippable cutscenes I’m required to go through to travel are very short but still tedious and annoying, I encountered the same Mantis base with the same enemies and the same loot on 3 different planets in 3 different systems, I encountered the same cryolab on five different planets in five different systems… The game is TOO big. It’s the gaming embodiment of Bilbo Baggins’s “too little butter stretched across far too much bread.” I regret my purchase, I’m going back to Skyrim, and Bethesda won’t be getting my money anymore.
Part of the problem is Todd likening the game to better games. Quote, ‘skyrim in space’ and SP being like ‘far harbor’
Emil’s comment about the “big 3” had me rolling… like yeah, those ARE the only three IPs Bethesda has worked on, ever??? Wtf are you on about Emil
The response: “I told you people will buy anything.” – Tod
How do they make new games on old engines and still make them worse. Even Skyrim had bare hand executions and weapon execution. We had a kill cam…. That was 15 years ago and Starfield has none of it
For some dumb reason Bethesda always does that last dlc expansion to be the biggest and the ones leading up to it are rather short. Just look at the history it’s a pattern and it needs to fit the sticker price. If the expansion were shorter usually they were cheaper look at the automatons for fallout 4 cheaper than far harbor. I think they are just lost in this big expansive universe instead on focusing on mechanics.
I don’t understand why they won’t remake Morrowind.
Take the coolness, the awesomeness, the immersion, the freedom, the sheer epicness out of Skyrim, and what you get is STARFIELD.
Me after playing starfield for over 200 hours, goes on youtube, sees lots of “gaming critics” hating on starfield and plenty other games….realizes hating on games is the new trend, decides to ignore all fucktwats and just try any game I want myself. (Message written at 12:13), won’t even bother with listening to any “game critic” ever again.
They didn’t spend a year “building” an expansion… they spent a year “tack welding” cut content to be viable for sale.
I went into Starfield a year later with low expectations and it was worse than I thought it would be. 4/10.
Im out since bethesda jumped on the paid mods train again. There are so many other games with fantastic mods.
Elder scrolls 6 will by no means be good but it will be better than Starfield that’s for sure. It actually having an open world will just make it be “meh” than terrible like Starfield.
They just refuse to accept reality. Spewing corporate propoganda, doubling down in their hubris and entitlement. The market will speak in the end.
Gaming has become big corp making art and tries to sell it to real art collectors. Art collectors being the gamers.
These DEI Hires and greedy corpos are completely crumbling the whole industry, Woke War 3 and soon we’ll be back to sticks and stones. or however it goes.
I get not looking for criticism to save your sanity and mental health, but why not get an intern or someone else to just compile a list of common complaints for your last game and what the most popular QoL mods were? That’s the most mind boggling thing to me. It’s like they actively reject any criticism whatsoever.
Can we just forget Bethesda exists please. Let’s give that energy to companies that aren’t as sleezy
Starfield should continue to be the Third Pillar Game they develop. However, the foundation they have made for it has as much or less detail than the foundations for their other two pillars, and they were made 9-10+ years ago.
Emil: “no ego, no arrogance”
Also Emil: this is the greatest sci fi RPG ever made
After playing fallout 76 for the past few days I honestly feel like they put more effort into fallout 76 and completely gave up on star field lol
I wish instead of Starfield they had just went straight to working on ES6 instead
To even have the audacity to put starfield next to fallout and elder scrolls is insane.
They could’ve done it if starfield was even remotely as great as the other two ips.
This is not a “personal taste” problem. The game is OBJECTIVELY bad in many, many ways.
I actually played like 75-80 hours of it. It was soooo monotonous though. Just kept hoping somewhere it would get better. But it never did, haha.
This just proves Bethesda is dead.
They clearly think that larger is better!
Playstation player here…. twiddling my thumbs waiting for the day that may or may not ever come the PS release 😅
i cant get over how terrible the NPCs are. i mean its like a child 3d crafted them on their first day of work at bethesda at 18 years old.
Almost half the price of sot gimme a break I’ve pretty much given up on this studio my they be tossed into the pits of game pass and steam summer sales soo long Bethesda
Elder Scrolls is going to sell like hotcakes no matter what lol
Emil outright blocked me for basically saying hey as a fan of Bethesda, hopefully you guys are looking at the feedback (the genuine ones) and really look to improve moving forward. That alone lets me know it’s a bunch of yes people over there.
I’m sorry, you’re a damn fool if you still believe a word from Bethesda leadership
I mean, I haven’t taken Bethesda seriously since Fallout 3. So….not sure why people are surprised. Their games have almost always had that soulless feel to them.
I get the continuous comparison to Cyberpunk 2077 for Starfield but I’d say No Man’s Sky is probably the best comparison here: the space theme, procedural world/landing zones (lol), gameplay, etc. And Hello Games did a great comeback with free DLC (don’t remember the exact number but too many to count), and they have listened to and delivered almost all the feedback from players. Whether you like NMS or not, we have to acknowledge that Hello Games’ hard work.
I don’t know how you can describe a bloated, watered down The Outer Worlds a “technical marvel”. I don’t even know how you can describe it as something with a “unique personality” when its as bland as white bread. It doesn’t have any personality at all.
Once again, I apologize to Emil personally for expecting Starfield to be anything but trash.
“We are listening to the feedback” unless it relates to the writing, design and the overuse of RNG
Emil needs this reality check. He is misguided by a very wrong vision of what Bethesda gamers want.
T O D D S L O P
It’s so. Wild. How out of touch they are, with their own products, with their longer-term consumer base. It genuinely makes me sad. I have increasingly less hope for ES6 the more I see what they put out in terms of content, comments, etc.
a perfect example of “we worked hard on it so please buy it” rather than it being a good product that sells itself
Need this kcd2 vid. Been playing the original for the fix
LUKE COVERING SHITTY GAMES IS NOT “FASCINATING” LIKE HE SAYS….. Dude we love your content but jesus, can you beat a dead horse anymore? No one cares about Starfield, Concord, Suicide Squad, etc. Why dont you try covering good games that people actually enjoy? WHEN YOUR AUDIENCE DOESNT PLAY ANY OF THESE SHIT GAMES b/c we are smart enough to save our money, we dont care to watch all of your videos or content b/c why should I care about a game I dont want to play or give two shits for? Think about that Luke. We get tired of watching the same ole’ Starfield video over and over and over.
Do not give Bethesda any more money. I’m mindblown at the downward spiral they’ve been on.
Get Larion Studios over there to fix that company, they need serious help!
I’m not buying the, it’s good and we are wrong when it is so clear for years BGS has been cutting corners on all aspects of game development.
At this point i´m just waiting for TES6 as a game engine, i hope they drop a functional enough game so modders can actually make a good game with it…
You keep a Todd Howard cutout in your bedroom? 😂🤔
Every game they make gets more and more shallow.
Stripping out game features and world reactivity each time, reducing the overall role play choices.
The question now is how much less will TES 6 have than Skyrim had?
Bethesda was once all them things mentioned, but after years of hiring people who are not them same ones who made Bethesda that way, they no longer are. In order to keep a legacy going to have to continue to hire people based on that legacy. People who will take the torch and move it along. Not activists who just want to destroy what was already the foundation. Quite simple really.
One of the criticisms of Skyrim when it launched was that at times it felt like “National Geographic the game”. Running around the same environments, shallow quests that don’t affect anything, poorly realized characters.
Emil needs to go, dude is like a malignant tumor.
Im excited to see you play stalker 2 again 😁
CDPR lost around 70% of their stock value, this has not happened to BSG. Might be what they need to wake up.
Bethesda doesn’t just build “Fantasy Worlds”…
They live in one 😂
Hey @Luke, is there any reason your videos sometimes go to 30fps when you are making bigger movements like this 3:17 in alot of your videos?
So glad I didn’t bother with Starfield.
Bro it’s the lack of accountability and the fact that instead of taking criticis m they don’t listen and tell themselves “we are great and know what we are doing” instead of changing anything, they haven’t lived up to their own standard since Skyrim fallout 4 was my Starfield, very disappointing so I thought Starfield was okay, better factions than Fallout 4 but it’s over they’re done listening
You’d think that someone passionate about something would actually listen to feed back and look at other stuff like they do no ?
“Passion” doesn’t make something good. And I’m tired of the “We were so passionate!” as a defense for objectively bad decisions.
I’m soft locked. A main quest conversation keeps holding the camera on the NPC after the dialogue is finished. I’ve power cycled the console, rebooted the save, game, launched another save…
Luke, I was originally “starfield hasn’t affected my excitement for ES6.” I’m firmly on “not excited for it” now.
Fallout 76 was made under Court Order, or the rights would be returned to Interplay!
Title for a video, “how shattered space shattered Bethesda reputation!” 😂
Lol hope they don’t end up on Ubisoft trope 😂
I don’t see why this Emil guy can’t just say “We’re sorry Shattered Space didn’t hit for everyone, we’ll try and be better next time”
Not to mention that the lack of progress or even acknowledgement of the obvious issues makes us very worried about the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout 6 (if civilisation hasn’t collapsed before its release) .
Bethesda needs a whole overhaul before we’ll get anything good again, they have been on a losing streak for years now. Fallout 76 being an affront to God, Starfield being boring, mediocre and outdated, Fallout 4 next gen update basically giving us nothing and destroying mods for the game and now the Shattered Space DLC which took absolutely zero of the criticism from Starfield, they just made the same game but for 30$ and only 5 hours long
Saying that the backlash from FO3 ending was because people “want to live in our world” is mindshattering to me. In the original good ending of FO3 you have to sacrifice yourself going into a room with deadly radiation while your supermutant companion (who is immune) says that he can’t do it for you, because it’s your destiny.
I was really looking forward to this expansion, but no it was very lacklustre. I was enjoying it until I got a few missions in and it felt like a huge gap of the story was missing
I just find it funny they called it “Shattered” space. Think of the shat jokes ppl will come up with lol.
Funny how Emil waves off reviews yet Bethesda tied Obsidian’s bonuses to review scores for new vegas. Not to mention not giving them nearly enough time.
Should also be noted that Hearts of Stone expansion for Witcher 3 was $10 and came out 5 months after Witcher 3. The second expansion, Blood & Wine came out one year after Witcher 3 was released and that cost $20. The expansion pass, which includes both of them cost $25.
Hearts of Stone length: 10-18 hrs
Blood and Wine length: 15½-40½ hrs
Some Hardcore Bethesda fans are starting to realize they can’t glaze Bethesda forever. They have call out these issues in a respectful way
Every time these guys open their mouths, it gets worse. They need to fire several people and shut up for a while.
The worst part of starfield is how boring it is….. No choices at all too, not an rpg
looking a little defensive luke…not a great look imo
Yeah some people don’t get the fact that people give them constructive criticism because they care more than someone who says nothing
I hate to say it but unless something drastic changes at BGS I think Elder Scrolls 6 is DOA and it might be best to move on. I had to do the same thing years ago with Bioware after Anthem and Andromeda.
As a long time Bethesda fan, Starfield is NOT close to Fallout or TES series. Is it unique? Sure. But it misses the mark with so much exploration worth doing…they cant hold a candle to Skyrim, Morrowind, FO3…seriously?? Just because its their largest game, aside from the ESO mmo, doesnt make it by default “awesome”.
BGS went from “it just works” to “F you, pay me.”
Why ai is soulless and shouldn’t be used to make games
5:17 Morrowind be like “And I took that personally”
i do want to play on one save for 100’s of hours one 1 save because i like the handcrafted stuff in bethesda games and procedural generation is just to repetitive
Because of Starfield I am not excited for the next Elder Scrolls game and any game they release going forward.
Well it’s broke a record for me, “First ever game owned , with dlc I have never played “
Emil Paglirailao is a self proclaimed genius
Have they still not fixed the gun not reloading? If true that is appalling. Don’t give this company any more of our money until they fix FallOut 4 next Gen and these other issues.
I’m a massive Bethesda fan boy but I’m gonna tell it how it is, Creation Club was a good idea but executed horribly, Starfield is the worst of their games, Shattered Space ain’t no Far Harbor, Fallout 76 was a massive slap in the face to the community on release. I miss the old Bethesda but the current one frustrates me because I’ve been there for their golden age.
13:30 Luke ignores the fact that Emil was responding to an unhinged rant that was 15 tweet long from a person that admitted that they never played starfield
So do you ever actually state your opinion any at all, or are you merely a gaming centered equivalent to Chris Stuckman?
Well since I’ve subscribed to Game pass, I can play the game for free. Not gonna spend $60 bucks for a game that was broken since launch even though they tried their best to fix what could have been a great game
Bethesdas golden years were oblivion and fallout 3. All they have done since then is over promise, and under deliver
Eh… I want whatever the hell Mr Pagliarulo has been smoking because that’s wild. sorry but both of them need to go, Howard and Pagliarulo.
Starting a new game in Morrowind while I listen to this.
I really like Starfield and I don’t know why you people have to be so mean. Must be pretty sad to be you.
Amateur developers have a penchant for overvaluing their own work.
Star Field was such a boring slog and the dlc is no different. The dialogue- writing and the quest design are terrible
Is it a pre requisite for game developers to be completely delusional? If your fans are telling you your game or dlc sucks, guess what… It sucks. And who the hell told devs it’s a good idea to make a game that’s not for everyone? Keep losing money and losing jobs 👍
is it as good as nuka world?
It’s absolutely wild to think that if they dropped Fallout 5 or ES6 tomorrow, I wouldn’t immediately buy it. Times have changed, but Bethesda hasn’t.
Even if they pulled a 343, went to Unreal Engine and made Fallout & Elder Scrolls their own dedicated studio teams, I honestly still think it falls WAY short of what we once hoped it would be
10:30 go ahead quantify it
Starfield is in the top 100 best games BGS has made.
Bethesda an Ubisoft are like the ex you trying forget bout but at the end you kept going back to her
I have 35 days logged in starfield and over 20 hours in shattered space, I have yet to bet it. I have also read that article. I find your game reporting to be nothing more than performative drama and extremely disingenuous.
Bethesda will forever produce mediocre games. Not because of their game ideas, worlds, or writing… but because of their corporate overlords and how mediocrity is forced upon them by the delusional leadership of the studio. They will never admit an error and will never make a decision that does not benefit their bottom line.
Starfield suffers from toxic positivity and devs that have a refusal to take any form of criticism.
5:18 – 5:24 had me in tears
if just the base game was set on one planet and they built DLCs around exploring a different pre-built planet that would be cool like The Dragonborn dlc or old world blues, etc
Frankly: Emil and Todd have to go if things are to ever get better. Both are very very out of touch
He mentions “Far Harbor” several times in this video. I have never heard of this game, and searching for it reveals nothing. What is Far Harbor? Or am I mishearing him?
I’m imagining the South Park clip of the BP President saying we’re sorry over and over just with Todd instead.
Bethesda needs to upgrade from Emil Pagliarulo to ChatGPT. 😂
Almost everybody wanted Starfield to be great, the fact that it wasn’t is the obvious reason Bethesda is getting all the hate, damaging the expectation for the most anticipated game ES6 and now everbody is putting Bethesda over the coals because no one trusts them to meet expectation
The hours I spent playing Starfield: 25 hours
The hours I spent watching people talk shit about Starfield on YouTube: 500 hours
The toxic positivity of these companies is driving me insane
Hey luke whats that background music in the beginning, i loved it for whatever reason
Im having fear regarding Elder Scrolls 6. Almost imposible for it to be any good sadly. I remember the times I was playing Gothic and TES III- Good old days
lets them try to do someshit like this with elder scrolls 6 and ill never buy a game from them again
There are more people playing skyrim in steam DB than Starfield 😂
people defending bethesda make me unironicaly worried for their mental health
Id rather spend my money on Star Citizen than on Starfield, the only thing in Starfield that’s worth a damn and other space games should copy is the ship building.
“Space simulation RPG” well that’s a big ole’ fat lie. Space RPG works… But that’s all it can claim.
I’m almost positive elder scrolls 6 won’t be better than Skyrim or oblivion
When your target is mediocre (Keep it Simple Stupid) all you are going to get is mediocre at best.
Bethesda is so cooked
company and their games are ass and buggy. never bought any Bethesda bug and dont get why there is a fanbase at all ngl.. enjoying ppl shitting on them though.. so thank you Bethesda I guess
Explains why they didnt want to acknowledge Fallout London. Bethesda looking like even bigger amateurs now.
Release a bang average DLC for a bang average game, get bang average reviews. Nothing for them to get mad about coz as a company what you need to do is just go back to the drawing board and release something better and you’ll get the better reviews.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a good example where a game absolutely fumbled a launch but then were able to recover it coz they took the criticisms on and released something better via their Phantom Liberty DLC. So Bethesda just gotta take the criticisms and do better.
Shattered Space?
More like Shattered Expectations
They missed the mark by not fixing the games core issue. The game is too big too soon. Initial release should have been 10 worlds fleshed out and flush with Skyrim like world building. The DOC/Expansions should have been making the galaxy bigger in phases. Game missed the mark and I don’t think it’s in any way fixable unless they man up like No Man’s Sky – this game is dead.
I’ve never even played this game, have no intention of playing this game, and I’m still pi**ed off
I know you say the game is like a 6 or a 7 but u treat it like a 3 bit unfair
First?
I hope Bethesda fires Emil.
They’re not gonna fix anything for ES6. Bethesda needs a new director, engine, and real writers before anyone gives them money again.
Holy shit not the Todd Howard spiced pumpkin candle! That’s how you know it’s bad…
fourth 😀
“I use to make good games but then I took an arrow to the knee and they’re laughing now” Todd 😐
9 views in 51 seconds? Luke fell off.
Deja vu.
Boom
Yeet
First!