Why Modders Have Given Up on Starfield #starfield #gaming #gamingpodcast
A short from our Gaming Podcast Joystick Jabber where we discuss why the mod author of Skyrim Together has given up on modding Starfield.
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The entitlement of modern gamers is mind boggling.
Its…. one developer…. who wanted to make a multiplayer mod…. it’s not the end of the modding community lol
Yeah fallout 76 is currently above starfeild for me i played it im glad i did but its missing too many feature that bethesdas previous games had
Wdym, like, it’s even coded & created in a way that feels soulless 😅
Tried to play it for a month then deleted but still love skyrim
Starfield made Mass Effect Andromeda look like a great space rpg
I’m currently enjoying Starfield, but maybe the mod support will take longer to get rolling than I thought.
It took 30 minutes of playing to know the game was trash…
Can‘t remember the last time I heard a positive review about anything new.
People used to be blown away by shit graphics and 2d platformers now… nothing is good enough.
Starfield is a decent game
Starfield is a trash Bethesda game
This game was the most empty feeling game I’ve ever played, and I played no man’s sky when it was originally released, Starfield was such an intensely boring game that I just started playing fallout 4 again instead, it’s a damn shame to see such a goated company hype up such an insanely empty and generic game.
Starfield is fallout 76 all over again. I hate Bethesda.
Meanwhile, Starfield is the twelve most modded game on nexus without the creation kit tools. This literally shows you how the internet picks up on one thing and runs it. One modder who made skyrim together said they didn’t like the game that’s it.
Didn’t need a single mod on new Vegas or skyrim to play them over and over again. If you need mods, go find a new game.
How in the fuck can I get excited for the next elder scrolls when fallout 76 was garbage and this pos excuse for a game is Tom Howard’s “magnum opus.” I sit in my chair alot these days actually hating how much time and money I’ve spent by having gaming as a hobby for these idiots to have the audacity to believe that this shit is acceptable. Skyrim realeased 3 diff different versions of itself on 5 diff consoles in the span of 12 years. WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE HAD TES 6 AND FALLOUT 5.
I swear, video gamers can be some of the biggest Karen type, cry babies ever. You complain if it’s too small and if It’s too big. You complain when it’s not on your system, and when it does. You complain it took too long.
Yeah I kinda understand that. I went back to No Mans Sky
This seems just content drama. A lot of people enjoy the game. To me, this is narcissism and attention grabbing, not genuine news.
couldnt of said it better, trueeee
Such a sad truth, bethesda is no longer bethesda, just another money grabbing triple A company, that literally ignores their games flaws and say its the fans fault for finding it boring😂😂
I’ll say this, starfield as SO much potential but my biggest problem isn’t the lack of things to do it’s more the gameplay.
It’s should say a lot that FALLOUT new Vegas gun play was LEAGUES better than starfield, granted you had no option at that time to sprint or melee with your gun but the shots felt like they had actual impact. It’s also CRIMINAL that coming from games like Skyrim and fallout where you can shoot someone’s leg off or decapitate a nord, it’s pretty sad that when I shoot someone in SF they just kind of float around, no blood. No gore. No realism
„We want Skyrim in space“
*gets Skyrim in space*
„Its just Skyrim in space, I hate it“
Also.. the modding tools arent even out yet. Modding hasnt even started lmao these incels are really malding over everything Bethesda does.. and they still spend 300 hours with it
Imagine all the people who dropped $180 for the special edition 😂😂😂
fr, worlds easiest fucking game ever. just an absolute snore
There’s hundreds of mods. Thos fake outrage is out of control lol. And they haven’t even released official modding yet.
Agreed, starfield is a copy and paste everything over and over on 100 planets
One thing is that people need to be fans of the game to be willing to work on it in their free time and learn and deal with all the technical aspects of the game.
Very disingenuous clip.
I read what he said. Never said the game was bad just really unintuitive for modding.
I LOVED this game…. For about 12 hours
Loading screen, walk, loading screen, get in ship, loading screen, sit in cockpit , loading screen.
I’ll check it out when it is under $20 for the anniversary edition when it comes out.
I’m not trying to defend Starfield but 1 modder doesn’t represent the whole community especially when its a modder with such a bad reputation
Starfield isn’t trash, but it’s not even on the level of Elder Scrolls Oblivion. And not even in the same universe of Skyrim
I love this game.
Starfield felt like a star trek neo futuristic cyberpunky vibed starshit
Im still over here switching between Destroy All Humans II and Wolfenstein Colossus
The game is a complete flop, save your money.
If no one mods that game. I WILL. I love that game. Ftn
1416 hrs and only on NG+3. Yeah, the copy/paste locations were disheartening at first but Bethesda is known for bettering their mess eventually, so I ignored that. Then it was a great, relaxing escape, especially with Xreal AR glasses (not a sponsor). If you’re the TikTok gen with your media induced ADHD, shut up and play some Metroidvania crap. Stop thinking you’re cool and edgy. Sh*tting on a game other people are enjoying doesn’t make you cool. If you’re bored; then you’re boring.
F#ck that i love it. If you dont agree, cool
Toxic individuals hated starfield the most.
I’ve been playing Nehrim for ES4. Cool ass armors, map, enemies, and it’s all in German with subtitles.
Starfield is BY FAR the Bethesda game with the most potential for modding. I’m really looking forward to it.
I was so looking forward to starfeild i originally was gona pre order top teir then i read it was gona be on game pass from jump and immediately got worried. Im so glad i didn’t buy it because i played it for a week when it released and haven’t touch it since. Sooo disappointing. Im worried fallout 76 has ruined Bethesda because 76 main audiences is little kids and they make a ton of money for silly easy gameplay were as fallout elder scroll fans expect in depth storytelling. Im very worried for fallout 5 and next E.S.
It’s not a good game. It’s got all the hallmark failings of a Bethesda title, without any of the strengths of their old titles. Bethesda died when they released Fallout 76.
What I don’t like is how there isn’t multiple ways to complete the story line, you’re forced to be in constellation. There really isnt much choice compared to other titles like fallout or elder scrolls
Even though no man skies had a really Rocky start. It’s still the best space game you can buy.
I don’t understand all the dislike, I like it do I love it no, do I love fallout 3 yes, but it’s not Skyrim or fallout maybe I’m slow or something but I like it😂 I’m not speaking on what he said about the modders perspective but the hate from the gamers. It’s like you can’t win with you guys not every new IP is going to be the second coming of Christ, do you want new games or just sequels remakes and remasters we are so spoiled smh.
Starfield seemed like a good idea. Fallout in space, Skyrim in space but the depth wasn’t there and a bit too much woke.
Yeah… Well… It’s coming to PS5 😅
I played 20 minutes and uninstalled. About the time I accessed locked chests by facing at a funny angle… Total accident and I was like….. Naw.
You would assume that modders would view starfield as a good foundation/template for modding but I guess it would be way too much work to make the game good.
And here I am, still not buying the game, and probably won’t.
Starfield is awesome…..
Are you stupid? That game was trash at launch. 😂
Its almost like Todd Howard has lost the plot
bethesda has been trash for atleast 10 years, all their development is centred around making flashy quarterly progress reports for their stock holders…
They spent 200 million on it. 2 million on the game and 98 million on cocaine and hookers.
Bro, it’s nothing new or are you stupid or something all the games have always been shit. It’s because of the modding community that they’re any good they always release half ass games that aren’t finished or that need to be fixed. It’s nothing new.
Yeah I did one play through and I was done with it 😂
The thing I hate is how much bethesda expects modders to fix and finish the game for them.
I like it some parts could be different but they’re not so you just have to get over it and stop with the big womp womp😂it’s a good game it hasn’t got EVERYTHING but it’s fun to play I enjoy playing it it’s helped me take my mind off a lot of stuff, that’s what games are for just to take you away not be the next groundbreaking game with everything in it, people don’t like it because it’s not better than Skyrim, it never will be because we love that game so much this is a different game and is about different things and it’s fun
It’s a space game where you can’t really do any space stuff because the devs said it was impossible. Yet I’m over here playing Empyrion flying to moons and plants in space that are NOT JPEG’s, going through the atmosphere and flying around the planets because No load screens or invisible walls during exploration.
Amazing how some games with skeleton crews can manage to do it but Bethesda failed at it. I can’t even space walk in Starfield. However, I sure as hell can in Empyrion. 😂
I have like 500 hrs of skyrim play, and everytime i find out something new i wasn’t aware of, wether its from mods or vanilla, starfield xlearly doesn’t have that
I really wanted to like starfield but it’s just boring and empty. The npc animation are trash and settlement thing seems like it was thrown in. I started playing cyberpunk after and am enjoying it 4x more.
I think he’s wearing a wig
This voideo is trash…who cares what this guy says…the game is fun as fuck
“One of the biggest modding communities” mentions a post by a single modder
Oh no, one person said something… meanwhile starfield has over 6000 mods already before the editor has even been released.
Ppl really need to stop making these videos bc it’s absolutely delusional and just kills the game for new players. Also the modding community is not even close to dead 💀
Skyrim is one of my 2 favorite games of all time. But if it weren’t for the mods, I probably woulda stopped playing it 5 years ago and never went back.
Bethesda knows they fucked up. Todd’s magical marketing skills is the few reasons this game has a fan base. In comparison to oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3 and 4, starfield is so redundant in terms of content
That’s tragic. If I tried to imagine playing fallout 4 vanilla compared to even what I can accomplish with Xbox mods, it just wouldn’t be worth it. Bethesda has NEVER made a game that can stand the test the time on its own. It’s always been the modders that being actual life to the game. So many fixes, improvements and just straight up better replacers make their games actually complete. Oh well. I have my own ambitions.
Bro idk starfield isnt elder scrolls or fallout no doubt but i got some fun out of it to say its actually garbage is just inaccurate
I enjoyed Stanfield.
I like Starfield but it just didn’t feel the same as fallout or elder scrolls. When I played Fallout I could get sucked in and really got in the mindset of someone living in the post apocalyptic world. Same with ES, I could easily get into the mindset of the hero of Tamriel. But with Starfield it felt quests kinda dry and predictable. The npc’s didn’t make me feel anything. Maybe it’s just me getting older and my imagination isn’t what it used to be, but it really doesn’t feel like the same love was put into this game as it was in previous games. Really makes you wonder about es6 and the new FO series.
Why does feel like everyone commenting on this game has PS5 and never even played it
I’d like to add that this is just one modders opinion. People kind of took off and ran with this story…. Not to mention it took him forever to get skyrim together right, so I’d assume starfield is damn near impossible for him.
That dude looks like my create a character
Shit feels like an indie game, played a whole 12 hours before I got a refund
Look at all the other modders. Just because ONE quit doesn’t mean anything, and it’s disingenuous to suggest it does.
Dumbbells
After playing star citizen since it had its first program I’ve never been able to enjoy other spaces games.
The whole take is bad. The mod tools aren’t out. The guys have never actually finished a project and aren’t great programmers to begin with. So many issues that don’t get brought up. This was a publicity stunt done by him to talk about “Skyrim Together” which last I heard isn’t really going anywhere.
The game looks like they were giving u a free game no heart into it NOT EVEN ALIENS!!
It’s a terrible game.
Yea I got starfield. And was highly pissed I played for exactly 2 hours 3 minutes. I couldn’t refund. So I just Uninstaller and re-download skyrim. Boom. My problem was solved
They should have released the game with the modding tools
Completely disagree I have over 200 hours in and love it
starfield really fell off and most criticism is warrented, empty worlds, no hints to the games future, random events arent as entertaining as fallout or skyrim. Bethesda really shit the bed when it came to starfield
I still love fallout 3 and oblivion still play today
I didn’t mind it but it’s got nothing on any of TES games. I found fallout 4 disappointing having been sucked into the hype train but it also beats starfield clearly. But again, I don’t mind starfield
Well millons disagree so this guys opinion doesn’t mean shit.
Everything felt slow. I did a whole playthrough. It reminded me of how Skyrim felt with the side quests. Everyone knows modding is what makes the games so much better. It doesn’t look promising for the future of Starfield.
Shoulda just made elder scrolls V
I am so sick of people
Giving shit about starfeild it’s the best game I have ever had payed
Pronoun 😂 trash… #Pronountrash 😂
I’m at the point of just deleting this game. 100gb + storage for this game is ridiculous. Not enough combat, too easy, too spaced out etc. Even though it’d make it harder it would’ve been more fun if the status effects were more noticeable, the ships fuel tanks actually needed to be refilled and food actually healed you more. The powers should of been more OP as well as the enemies.
The main missions should of been more diverse. Ship combat should’ve been more common and upgrading ships should’ve been more necessary but instead you can have the same ship until the end of the game.
There should of been proper sex and romance between Morgan and Andrea, building outposts should of been more useful, you can go the whole game without ever finding a proper use for outposts and by the time you create one you could of made much more in game progress.
Upgrading weapons and modding them should of been more easy and useful, there should of been aliens with different “types” with different weaknesses and strengths.
The game would of been even more fun if there was only a couple different solar systems with more detailed and unique planet exploration. It’d also be cool if you could land your ships manually. Instead, you can pretty much teleport anywhere. There isn’t much use of even having a ship except for storage or using warp drives.
Starfield is really good, the hate train for this game is non-sense.
I just wanted another Elder Scrolls game but no we got another generic space shooter with pronouns in the character creation.
The game is amazing and in my opinion doesn’t need mods
Starfield as big as it is feels completely empty.
Like skyrim was any better
My average hours in a game is 400 plus. I play the shit out of games. Starfield 38 hours. I have never played a game for less than 100 hours. Just could not do it with starfield. Yes it is that bad. So boring sooo so very boring.
Kinda sad when a big company like bethesda is practically begging for outside modders to make there game good
Didnt Bethesda “update” skyrim to break most mods, trying to force modders to starfield, or was that just a rumor?
Leader of the Klingon Empire
Started it again and playing it unrushed now. It is actually better than what I first thought. It just isn’t skyrim but it may be oblivion.
Star field is still a good game
It’s all just really sad to me
I played it into ng+2 and it was just…. boring. Nothing cool happens aside from getting a ship the first one and a cool set of armor, but its not even good mid game, it just seems pointless. I really did enjoy my first playthrough, until i realized how short the damn game is. Its just an endless loop of garbage in my opinion.
Just stop, there are 50000 fucking mods already. Stop sensationalizing stuff we get that enough from the pro media
One playthrough started on series X, and one started on PC. On neither of them did I get past joining constellation and running around a couple random planets and moons before uninstalling
They obviously didn’t pour any love into this game. It feel empty and unloved, kind of like fallout four, and fallout 76.
Putting way too much importance on Modders. Only thing they ever did for skyrim was make it crash my game (even more than normal). Would be nice if Bethesda just expanded. Quickly haha
Starfield had so much potential and it was wasted on an old engine and bad ideas who thought it would be cool to just give the bare minimum. When cyberpunk 2077 showed how big a city should be and not that village called New Atlantis, they should have known they would be in trouble.
The assets aren’t bad to work with, but the game is boring after X hours play. Walk in, shoot everyone, get the same loot, leave. Build a base to… what? Find a planet with Iron and Aluminum and make a basic base so you can level up. The economy is trash. I’ll come back to it in a year or two and see what mods and DLC stuff is released for it.
Why would you mod a game that no one plays to begin with? All that work would be for nothing. I did 200 hours of Starfield and I enjoyed in the first 10 perhaps? Then the garbage main story unfolded and I hated that, also the repetition of environments is so patronising. Like Bethesda thought we wouldn’t notice the same outpost over and over again, procedural is lazy as hell.
Literally only one modder has said that and its a guy who has been stuck on one mod for one game for the past 5 or more years the nodding community is still going strong and will grow when they drop modding support
This game is not that bad. I don’t understand the hate. It’s not as good as others but i enjoyed it. Replay value might not be as high as other Bethesda games though.
Lared Jeto
id argue that the lack of love and attention is precisely why there needs to be mods so the game can actually be good like with good mods the game can be an absolute banger but i also get its difficult even more so due to the way it was created but id still love to see what could be done
When game devs admitted they sham 90% of the budget and timeline they have and then grind to get the game done it opened my eyes pretty wide.
The games boringgggg
I mean, this was the last game before they get bought out
This is my #1 argument against xbots who use this game to fuel their console war. Its the only bgs game whose modding community has just died. The mods all feel like the bottom of the barrel shit you may see on page 300 of skyrims mods lol
Yeah i kinda wish bethesds would stop sucking themselves off like they are amazing game developers when the games they make are only made great by the people who buy and then mod them
When i saw the game the first thing i though was “the mods for this game will be nuts” i got excited for not the release of the game but for the 1 or 2 year anniversary of the game, because by that point we would have incredibly complex and amazing mods like how we got on Skyrim but, with almost 200 hours in the game and not even launching it since 2 months after the launch I feel exactly what they say, there is no love, i would say there is not even attention, it used to make me sad but now in 2024, honestly if the game just disappears i would confidently say that no one will miss it.
I barely made it like an hour or two im before I uninstalled it, im glad i pay for game pass and didnt fully purchase it
Yeah starfield felt dead…..thing had absolutely no soul or creativity, kinda pathetic on Bathesdas part.
Holy shit i thought you was charlie.
I’m still over here enjoying skyrim.
Im still over here enjoying New Vegas 14 years later