If you are a level 266 like I am, and you warp into a lvl 99 system, and 30 Watchtower ships and drones spawn in, with crew on them and all their new weapons and armor, and their inventory, along with all the asteroids or other debris in that system, your fleet, your crew, their weapons and armor, their inventory, your inventory, your ships inventory, the 30 npc’s interior ship assets and ship inventory, all the new npc’s on each of those 30 ships, the space station, the space stations npc’s and inventory, and whatever vanilla mission might pop in, overwhelms the form ID limit. EDIT: This is over long term and can cause crashes. I suspect the longer you use the mod, the more likely to start having issues.

Players and mod authors are being told to update our mods to the latest version of the game by Bethesda, and “maybe its one of our other mods” by The Watchtower team, yet Watchtower wasn’t even built off the latest version of the game as stated by Kinggath, and they knowingly released it and charged us $10 for it anyway. Any other mod author knowingly doing that would be given a lot of heat for this. And then for it to have Bethesda’s name on it. I mean did Bethesda know?

But hey, pay now, and they’ll fix it later?🤷🏾‍♂

i cannot the creation site to load for me. it never has since i bought the game. i love your voice by the way!❤

🙁 mods did this. I find it troubling how defensive you are about it. Get well soon.

It’s not mods causing the stutter. I started a brand new game with no mods and still had stutter. This was on Xbox. Bought a gaming PC. Nvidia 5080/AMD 9800X3D. Still had stuttering. Installed Starfield Engine Fixes. Changed the appropriate setting. Stutter gone. Why can a mod fix this, but Bethesda can’t?

i mean, i love sci fi games. I play star citizen too (very heavy game) and it runs smooth. Moreover when starfield first came out i could play it, at minimum, but at least i could play it. After shattered space, it’s been a nightmare.

Im have an issue where it won’t let me upgrade armor or weapons most of the time

Hey Sista! My opinion that it’s not just about Starfield, but about current culture, in general. Nowdays people tightly associate themselves with whatever thing, product, or social group and if they hear any critic towards that thing, they immediately take it personally. That’s why an increasing number of people these days are often “offended” by the stupidest things. So, it’s not your critique – people are just dumb.

Someone online said the Desolation Poi mod was causing their stutter. I’m going to remove it and try it out

THANK YOU SO MUCH SISTA FOR MENTIONING THIS ON YOUR VIDEOS! Honestly thank you!!

My experience:
Before the update: Stutter in The Well about once every 3 seconds. Almost all mods caused this, but some much more so than others. Ship was fine, though. After the patch; no stutter in places like The Well regardless of how many mods, but the stutter happens inside the ship itself after landing on any planet. And just like the Well; some mods make the stutter worse then others; but they all cause the same issue in the end. Since at-least to me; the ship is a huge part of the exprience; this is ruining my gameplay immersion.

I had to disable mods like; Iconic Ship Battles, Ship Builder Categories, TN’s Space Mining, Falkland Shipyards and several custom ship habs/parts mods, and this DOES reduce the stutter inside the ship from 3+ second long stutters to about 0.5-1 second stutters once every 3 seconds. But to eliminate the issue almost* completely; one has to disable ALL MODS. And even then; the stutter happens on a completely unmodded game, fresh install, all user data deleted, new game, but* it happens to a much, much less extend.
No mods: Game is playable but we are missing out on sooo much (and missing out on all my favourite free and* paid mods).
Mods EXCLUDING the ones mentioned above: heavy 0.5-1 second stutters once stutters every 3 seconds. Breaks immersion and causes some sort of stress, always anticipating what the stutter be like on the next landing!
Cool ship mods etc (even ones indirectly advertised by Bethesda): Extreme stutter, game becomes unplayable (literally).
Sigh, they fixed ”The Well” problem and replaced ir with this 🙁

So frustrating. All I want is to move around normally.

Hey Sister – I hope you are doing well and a good week,
The stutter in general is a performance and video RAM cache of the environment of the game that is optimised with, it wouldn’t matter if the stutter is from a DLC and it is a matter of performance of the game engine.
I get what you mean, I get it. I’m glad to see another video, Thanks Sista – peace.

Try this

Go to display settings
Go to “upscaling” set to FSR3
Set “frame generation” to “on”
Set “nvidia reflex low latency” to “on+boost”

See if that fixes the stutter also what mod do you use to have the star trek ship interior?

Well knock on wood my xbox installation is working fine, 🤞 and moded to 7gb, but this issues unfortunately on brand for bethesda, still haven’t fixed stutters in fallout 4, and it’s been a year…

More off nvidia driver issue the RTX4060 not the best of that generation especially the 8 gig one but come to us you are miss🙃

Have you seen the new Tatooine mod by Radicalclown? Huge file so I disabled Watchtower. It runs good on Xbox.

Hey sista did you try out the watchtower update. Did it stop any of the stuttering. They recommended uninstalling watch tower and reinstalling it for the update to work. Apparently they found a problem with just clicking update will cause issues. Apparently updates in creation store are broken makes me think what of my other mods might not been properly updated.

Ever considered getting into starfield photography 📸 with the Screen Archer Menu by Maxie?

I just came to Starfield yesterday, its running basically buttery smooth on max settings, however at one point i visited a space station, there was some spacers, and got murdered, THATS when the stutters began …… it was sooooo consistant every 2-3 seconds for a bout a second… its soo god damn noticeable and its really ruining my fun ;/ I got some mods but im 100% positive its not mods at all, if it was, the entire area would cause me stutters upon entry but the stutters only begin after a save Load >.> (new playthrough too) , it also happend in some other areas X_X so i dunno.

have you tested to see if is one of the mods you have?
if they changed the version maybe u need to update the sk or one/more mods need update

Stutter Space

Ha, ha, Not only is slopfield, slop but it’s aaaaa sh*tshow too. WHY am I NOT surprised? No hate to the players, in fact GOOD LUCK to you.

4060 TI, 64gb ram. Before shattered space, I was able to run the game on ultra at 2k 165 refresh rate, with 79 heavy mods. Now I have to run it on Medium WITHOUT any mods. Like how???? Funny enough, with bug fixes and engine tweaks and I’m able to play on high now, though I still get frame drops. Quicksaving does bring it back up though.

I was and always am a new player to any game and just YouTube it and get better. And Skyrim was never perfect but I still play it. Maybe just… stop complaining.

Is this a guy or a girl, has the stereotypical trap voice

Sista, I think you’re running into the same brick wall the critics (you call them haters) have been dealing with the whole time: factions of fans not accepting objective truth. Your problems with the stutter and not getting acknowledgement from even the lover side of the community that’s with you is the exact same for some of us who have been trying to get other major aspects of the game to have attention drawn to them. You have found the quintessential problem with modern media in general. Everyone will die on their own hill for their own opinion to be “the truth” and ignore anything to the contrary. It’s true of media from games (Starfield) to movies(Star Wars sequels) and is in our politics too. We live in a time where ‘live your truth’ drowns out objective reality. In old phrase: Too many chiefs, not enough Indians(Native Americans). Egos insisting upon themselves.

Hi Sista. I totally understand your frustration, because you want your gaming experience and your live streams to be fun and smooth. You put a lot of time and energy into your streams and into testing new mods. I only have an Xbox so don’t have the technical complexities of modding on PC like you have, but I am also getting stuttering and pauses on Xbox with the Watchtower expansion. I appreciate that you want your streams to be perfect for your subscribers and members. Honestly, i can accept some stuttering in your streams—it isn’t your fault—and i hope you resume live streaming very soon!

The update fixed the stutter problem for me. I play on the series x

I came back to Starfield about 2 weeks ago and I was getting stutters on New Atlantis pre-modded. I play on a Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX 4070 Super and 32 gb of ram. I normally play on ultra but backed off to high settings because I would periodically get stutters. I still get them now even with or without mods.

My laptop is a HP Victus 16.1″ Gaming Laptop – 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700HX – GeForce RTX 4060 8GB – 144HZ 1080p – Windows 11 with a 1 TB SSD and 32 GB of memory. I thought it was a decent laptop. The computer snobs are going to make me cry 😢 or maybe not 😅. That was my price point when it was available and on sale 🎉

Hi! I’ve been in the tech field for many many years. The first thing I can tell you that it’s not the 4060 you are using. It’s is also not fully a Bethesda issue. It’s really freaking weird… I have a 5080 big boy pants PC and I can recreate the issue you are having. Through a lot of testing I’ve come to believe that it’s something with creations. NOT MODS. I can’t seem to create the issue no matter how many mods I load from nexus. However I can recreate the issue easily by downloading from creations. I can’t answer the why just wanted you to know you aren’t crazy and it’s not your pc.

When I first got the hard pauses and micro stutters (these are two different issues for clarification I have both) it was right after Shattered Space and my first playthrough of it. People ask why I no longer have the hard pause anymore, and this is why:

I didn’t go back and do the Shattered Space quest after several NG plus. Like many of you who probably only played through once or twice. So, hard pauses went away but micro stutters began in The Well, and Neon,. Then a while later, I promised ShadowWeaver I would make a video on her habs. I had a whole funny idea planned out too with the ship vendor in Dazra. That meant I had to play through the Shattered Space quest to get there. As soon as I stepped on the Oracle, the hard pauses started. We even had a whole live stream trying to figure it out. I rolled back my save to before I got on the Oracle, no hard pauses.

I ended up scrapping the idea and just did interior shots, because of the hard pauses persisted and started, as soon as I stepped onto the Oracle. Also as a content creator, the hard pauses make it nearly impossible to make videos, just as a side note. I remember Sinkiller mentioning the stutters in one of his last videos. Wonder if he gave up finding a solution to stop the stutters so he could keep making cool videos for us. Anyway….

I did a live stream on “The Veil” my game was not experiencing the hard pauses. In fact I forgot all about them, but like everyone else with micro stutter issue, the major cities were a nightmare. Once we got to the finale of The Veil Quest and entered the new location in New Atlantis, the hard pauses started. All happened in the live stream. I IMMEDIATELY deleted “The Veil” and “Beyond The Veil”. Hard pauses stopped.

After update with Watchtowers new space station location, new added npc’s and gear, just like the other large quests I mentioned, as soon as the first space battle hit, and then stepped onto the space station, the hard pauses started again. Then when I left the station and went to a WT location, the micro stutters started inside the fist Watchtower location they send you to, as seen in this video. As soon as I removed Watchtower, no hard pauses. Micro stutters now gone in major cities with the update, for me, but with the mod, hard pauses all the time and micro stutters at Watchtower locations.

******* This is my attempt at sharing my experience in hopes it will help. If your experience was similar to this, please comment below so at least maybe a modder can find a solution for us. Please be constructive and spare us “Just disable your mods” or “It’s your computer” or “Turn off Dynamic Resolution”(for those on an XBOX with it? How?))🙄. **************

Bro sit down. 😂

I didn’t even know there was a stuttering problem probably because I don’t play it hah. I can see that more happening on PC because of windows bloat and many services running including anti malware stuff. But if that happens on console that is just sad. But the good news is that gta 6 is coming in the mean time mindseye might allow community expansion to have space like missions too who knows

Came back for holiday to find I am now only stuttering inside ships was fine when I left disabled color filter has helped but it’s still there only in ship so far

I can tell ya for sure its not your specs…Im just using 5600x 16 gb 3200 mhz and adata 4th gen ssd and 7900xt I dont get those.

For me I noticed I only start to stutter after I die I reload the game and I’m fine but if I die back to that stupid stutter 😂

Agreed, this is a Bethesda problem that needs to be fixed. I was having stutters prior to loading Watch Tower in space, and in major cities, or where there was a lot of combat going on. During my play through of Watch Tower I had one of my fleet ships the claymore just disappear after the game froze and I restarted. The mod computer where you add ships shows I have eight ships assigned; however, I can see only seven with me and I can only make crew assignment to seven. I am on Xbox, so that is most likely issues between some of the mods. However the stuttering was and is still there even if I go into a previous save prior to Watch Tower. i appreciate an honest content creator, thank you. Sad that you lost some subscribers, but stay the course your awesome and keep in mind that as a few doors close others will open.

Hello. I hope your issues are resolved soon. I am 37 and male and have gamed my whole life so I am blessed to have experienced the 90s and early 00s and gaming before the Internet was much of a thing and having to find physical game guides or magazines and stuff. Anyway I just recently have been able to afford a laptop so I have been a console gamer most of my life except for when i could spend the night at my wealthy friends house cause there was no way i could have gotten a gaming pc in the early 00s because we were just a normal family and couldn’t afford that and i wouldn’t even consider asking my parents because I knew they couldn’t afford anything like that. I personally don’t like Starfield but I am glad there are people that enjoy it including yourself because I know what joy gaming brings me when I enjoy a game and I’m glad to know there are girls out there that actually enjoy playing full scale large video games. Don’t worry about the people who constantly talk about computer specs because they are very classist and they are not actually trying to help they just want to tell everyone they have a nice computer. I saw a review on YouTube of Starfield and it was done on a 2080 and it looked fine and played smoothly as well so those comments about your pc are just ignorant. I really like to see your genuine love of the game because I really think everyone should experience that. Earned my subscription 😄.

I thought I was watching Star Citizen the whole time 😂😂😂

This game seems Second Life-esque.

I’ve always gotten stutter. One of the reasons I deleted it and started over with Mass Effect.

I played on Xbox-Series-X , no mods and still had stutter. Is there even mods for Xbox-Series-X? 👀

Could we maybe keep it real…. 😏
1. Title update; “fix 99 bugs and make 98 new ones”, patch pending….( I´m calling out BGS)
2. You are running a ” One of a kind ship mod in BETA!!!! “( Absolutely NO dis too OWLtech)
3.I´m waiting on the modders too double check their mods… ( 1/3 of them probably won’t…)
My load-order is 80+, on top of a title-update. NO wonder I´m having issues…
Just my 2cent, in repect.🫶

Yeah it all is a bit confusing. How can the issue of stutters and freezes vary from streamer to streamer? It has to be not only the underlying BGS software engine itself but also it’s interactions with the abundance of mods one has installed. And not just the total number but also specific ones. I know that once I disabled all of Zone79’s mods a lot of the issues I was having with performance went away. On the one hand I was happy about the improvement. But sad to no longer have access to all the great looking clothing and spacesuit standalone and replacers that had become staples for my game playing experience. Still miss them but it was clear in my case that it caused problems. But with all that said it doesn’t change the question. Why aren’t other mainline streamers seeing the same performance issues regarding stuttering? If there is really a conspiracy thing going on then that’s sad. Your channel has in my mind always tried to put the best light on Starfield. I hope this doesn’t push you away from streaming!

Nice another creation I payed for that I can’t play. Torin wont grav jump behind me. Mods or no mods can’t get him to jump. Bro I’m honestly getting fed up with this release and fix later stuff. Bethesda is king of being silent and getting you excited for basically nothing. They obviously don’t test their stuff thoroughly. I could not image putting out a beta just to fully release a full patch of stutters and broken content. The point of the beta was so the full release is perfect. At this point I don’t think Bethesda knows what they are doing. I’ve defended this game for years just for them to make me look like a fool. Slip up after slip up come on. True fans of the game need to step up and let Bethesda know instead of this %100 positive spin on it all the time is whats killing the game its not so much the trolls or haters at this point. The game is not going to evolve for the better unless people start standing up yo the bs. Get it together Bethesda I think it’s time for Microsoft to do some firing around the Bethesda office something is just not right over there. No matter what system you have or hardware Starfield is in a constant fight between gpu and cpu. It does not properly utilize your hardware. It’s the back and forth between gpu and cpu is the problem and it’s not just a Starfield thing it’s in all Bethesdas games. The creation engine is just not good at utilizing hardware and that’s what they need to focus on. Sista Citizen is a example of what a true fan should act like.

One place I do get bad stuttering is Kumasi 2. Sometimes the game will crash if I try to save. Game crashes is what I think is most annoying.

Crazy because I think they did that with fallout 4 too…

Sista, don’t let em gaslight you. The stutter has been a thing since before mods even came out!

Goddamn, some people are so obnoxious and the elitism around PC specs is cringe.

For me the stutters pre-update were definitely worse, however in Neon for some reason it’s even more painful now, similar if not worse than on your ship.

It isn’t the same for everyone – regardless of mods, why don’t people get that? Anyway, love your channel.

Apart from the stutter there is also texture issues as they patch some of them.

I’ve been a sub to the channel for maybe a month, I have no reason to take a side, I’m dealing with a stutter inside my ship. Once I take off, it tends to stop. It happens on a modded play through as well as vanilla. I’m on Series X.

Long-time viewer, first time commenter:

I love this take. As an Xbox-only player, I don’t have the choice to “upgrade my hardware”. The whole reason I play console is because I’m disinterested in purchasing/consistently upgrading a computer, so these stutters feel like a problem I’ve got no real solutions for. Although closing the game fully and reopening it tends to work in the short-term, not knowing what’s going to trigger these stutters means I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I appreciate your perspective, especially as someone who loves the game and just wants it to be accessible to new players. I think when it comes to these die-hard players who refuse to accept that there’s anything “not great” about the game, it feels like a direct response to the hyper-aggressive/vitriolic responses that normally follow every Starfield video on YouTube. You spend enough time being told that the product you enjoy is complete trash, it’s pretty easy to go down the rabbit-hole of being your favorite game’s staunchest defender.

My 2 cents, treat the Defenders(tm) in the same way you’d treat the trolls and haters. Just polar opposite sides of the spectrum who want to make their voices heard. No amount of concession works because the goal isn’t to change anything. It’s just yelling into the blackest sea.

Keep doing what you’re doing, you’ve got people in your corner who dig your content and look forward to the new videos and streams that come out.

o7 Captain!

If the stutters started after installing a mod, and don’t exist when the mod is disabled, then it’s the mod authors problem to fix.

Bethesda DOES NOT CARE. If they did, they wouldn’t have released Skyrim on the Switch six years after its first release with game breaking bugs still in the game that the community knew how to fix already. I’m sure they cared at some point but they are still a company. They’ve bought into their own hype despite the company riding on their community for DECADES now. They just got a fresh cash infusion from the Oblivion reskin, and all I can hope for is that they are at least considering caring again, but I’m not holding my breath.

Well, I tried to leave a comment, but now it is gone. o_O

You are totaly right! Yesterday i was in the Nova Galactic Shipyard over Luna and had Stuttering of my life!

I have a RX6950XT and a i7 13700k and 32GB DDR5 ram. Its not the Computer!

Thats an Engine issue. I love the Creation Engine and Starfield, its my favorite Game since Fallout 3 but they have to fix this!

I blame Walter Stutter – Eklund.

Typical Bethesda no more stuttering in neon or the well but now it’s almost impossible to use your ship ART OF THE DEAL IN VIDEO GAMES!!! SUCKS ASS!

Sadly some ppl are going to leave negative comments for no reason. Okay some might not have the stutter problems but many of us do and ppl making negative comments isn’t helping the situation. Just some ppl like making comments that will invite an argument. Someone did that one my post to your last video that I chose to ignore and not rise to

Appreciated! Don’t be disheartened, the most constructive thing we can do is seek to improve I see no benefit in shutting down arguments just because an individual is not experiencing issues themselves. I gave up on modding (mod making, not using them of course, how could I not, it’s the best thing about any Bethesda game for me) myself as it took ages to open the creation kit even with the mod that improves the scripting and makes it actually finally load for me, the more we talk constructively about the things that need improvement the more things improve we can still do that and love the game and community, thanks again.

Yeesh, the people who profess to love this game are just as toxic as the people who hate it..

I thought it was just me having these issues

I don’t have stars, but I can understand why some people might have them in their game cause I do have issues with Starfield but at the same time I don’t let it stop me from loving the game or enjoying it. I love the exploration factor that’s my favorite part of the game.

I love starfield and its potential. Love shipbuilding but do have issues. Larian checks mods cmon bethesda 😂 should not be a problem

I replied to your previous recent stutter video detailing how for me the severe stuttering is related to restoring game saves & affects far more areas than before, e.g. Lair of the Mantis. Yesterday I managed to get a Bethesda employee on a Starfield Facebook group to exactly reproduce the same issue where he seemed to have ideas of the possible cause. Hopefully this might speed up a solution 🙂

Starfield was a crashing nightmare, did every trouble shoot and with the recent update? It was clear it was never getting fixed for Xbox’s. I know there was a hardware issue but Starfield put that issue tenfold. Never crashed like Starfield, 20 minutes? Crash. Stood around doing nothing? Crash. Crash crash crash.

I had to get a new Xbox because Starfield fans took my posts as hate, so anyone else would just be flagged as hate rather than feedback.

I have no stuttering on vanilla game, but some stutter came out with some mods, than for me the patch Is good. And i talk as a VC modder, some mods must be tested in the deep by modders before the release. You found stutters on vanilla game or a modder one? Conditions are relevant in this situation.

I always assumed that the stutters were mod related… 🤷‍♀ I used to play on an RTX 2060, a few months ago I upgraded to a 4070 ti super oc… still had micro stutters here and there. I need to jump back after the update and test. But I’m waiting for the SFSE to be updated. But yes, I agree, not all problems are an “us-problem”. This stutter thing is a “Bethesda-problem”.

I have bad stutter no matter what I do. The game does this while playing dlc. Bad coding.

I play on the series x only & even i am getting stutters. I’ll go days of play without anything going bonkers & then i’ll get the stutters on one save then i change to another save & nothing happens which i find weird. But i love the game so much i’ll keep playing it even with the stutters ’cause i love nuking the mechs from watchtower. Little side note here, i was getting stuttering in the game before i added mods so over to you bethesda.

I can told you that with this patch ,any stutter on my Series X is gone, with 300 mods it’s now soooooo smooth, I love it

A smooth experience for new players is a must also a smooth experience for the game and mods is also a must. I fell in love with Starfield 1.9.2023 when i read the poem the light of the stars on a moon..
But it have, from the start, been a buggy game. And the lack of love from Todd and his crew is really frustrating , and with every update new issues grows and gamers are running away from Starfield …

Thought it was just me having stutters im playing thru gamepass on an Xbox One X not a Xbox series S/X… I said an Xbox one X😆

Microsoft needs to force Bethesda to create a mod load order organizer not just for pc overlords but for console users i swear it would prevent a lot of the frustration 🤣

And finally, FWIW it was the yelling in the last one that prevented me subscribing. The rant just wasn’t my jam, but I get other people like rants and you’re definitely entitled to have one 🙂 ed: have remedied that and sub’d, aside from the rant I appreciate your content.

I haven’t had stutters, I work in software support, and (helpful for the work) I enjoy solving problems and helping people.
My questions came from a position of “lets help” not “lets blame the user”, informed by fixing issues with software for people 8 hours a day. Could/Should Bethesda be helping users, not the community? Abso-fucking-lutely. FWIW them fixing the stutter issue for The Well/Dazra as the notes said, could be them ripping out a particular particle effect that works for most people but fails for people on 40+ series cards on 350+ driver versions, for example, it doesn’t *necessarily* mean that they had to refine their own content, but might have had to compensate for Nvidia fuckery. Or, it could have been them. But *just* pointing the finger at Bethesda is *just* as bad as saying “it must be the user”. (and no, it’s rarely a need for an upgrade, and if, IF, it is the users end it’s probably some unthought of software conflict)

Hi Sista! Let me tell you I love your channel and often I follow your live streams. You are super. I have to say that since the patch was released I have not experienced any stutters whatsoever. Actually, the maps of the Wells and Neon have reappeared. That said, Watchtower did cause one of my saves to get corrupted. I had to restart an older save uninstalled and reinstalled the mods (I have 172 mods in my load order) and now my gameplay is super smooth. My only issue is that the game has crashes a couple of times during heavy space or land battles (Watchtower battles only) but I have successfully completed it.

Dam that was a crazy stutter tho for real…I have not had any bad stutters like this in my game, and i only have like two mods the Vulture one and A POI Rotation mod. On series X but yea it goes lag sometimes in bigger cities for a second but nothing like that stutter you had.

Create a brand new character with no mods and progress the issue from there. You should be ashamed of that last video, one of my kids heard a part of it “family channel” I don’t think so…

Anyone with AMD having stutters? I have an amd and my game doesn´t stutter after a patch anymore, maybe it´s a nvidia only issue?

Not just Starfield also Oblivion Remastered performance is terrible they release games and drop support except once every couple of months add more stuff to their paid mods store without barely fixing anything.

Most tend not to expect adult, fact oriented behavior out of gaming communities. The logical thinkers are there but buried by the loud nonsense. That said, I have issues with the game too on xbox but not quite what you are experiencing. My game runs fine enough when I am doing the regular roaming, quest, and bounties but when I start destroying watchtower ships, drooping bombs or going to that crowded starstation, the game suffers, even after I walk away from the craziness. My active follower gets disabled and becomes irretrievable , forcing me to reload a previous save or lose them forever.

Honestly it has nothing to do with loyalty to the game, I just think everyone on all sides of the conversation are being way to quick to place blame, whether towards Bethesda or each other. Fact of the matter is that numerous things can cause any number of symptoms to any given problem, and just because the first round of stuttering issues were related to Shattered Space, it doesn’t mean if it happens again that it must somehow necessarily be correlated with something on Bethesda’s end this time around. For all anyone knows it could be Kingath’s mod that resurfaced the issue, but sufficed to say It would be far more sensible and logical to wait for more information before the pitchforks came out. Also AMD FSR is well known to cause exactly this type of stuttering, so try disabling it if you have it turned on, and make sure dynamic resolution scaling is also turned off.

I love how people say don’t tell someone to say or feel a certain way and than goes on and does that same thing in their video it’s so funny to me

I have no stutter thank god,

You might have to start all over. I had almost 100 mods; it was quite bad. I was level 210. I started over; now I am level 44 and using fewer mods. It is running well now in every city. I can’t play Tank girl now mod. It makes the exterior building go away. I think it same of everything.

i play it on xbox s… The funny thing is I had the stutter indoors like neon before the update and the watchtower mod and it was just a slight stutter but it seemed to get worse the more I leveled up… Now with the update and the watchtower mod I’ve experienced the starter when I quick save it in places like neon or the well…

Interesting, the only time I have ever seen the stutter is when I launch the game through SFSE. Without it I never see it, but I will say that I didn’t see any boost to my performance from this update.

Can bugfesda fix the vendors thier only have 10000 credits in thier inventory ships are expensive really boring selling alot stuff and having to sleep or wait to get venders refill thier credits

Ya they all say thiers no stutters in game but really they need to fix thier games no make new broken messes

The whole lack of compassion some people have to this issue reminds me of the Doc in Voyager when he didn’t understand how people felt til he programmed the flu in himself.

I support what you’re saying. I feel like BGS is lax on a lot of things, especially with their fixes and definitely checking mods that go on creations. I haven’t had the stutter myself, but I do get enough other janky stuff that I’m shocked I haven’t. My hill to die on is the update bug in creations. Every time I get in the game the same handful of mods need to be updated, multiple times a day. There is no way in hell they are pumping out updates for the blackout drumbeat skin twice a day. I’ve done all of the suggestions and I’m still salty. “It just works”, except when it doesn’t, except when it only works half-assed. Content creators like yourself are ambassadors for the game. The whole “spin it back on your hardware” garbage is straight out of the tech support handbook. In the long ago when I worked in cable, they encouraged us to tell this tale about slow internet service when they new damn well it was from our infrastructure. Fight the gaslighting!

Hey Sista, love your videos and I’ve shared a few of them in the Steam forums. I see you are running the mod Fleet Commander – by korodic. Have you tried loading Watchtower before Fleet Commander? I ask because neither of those 2 mods are listed as “Load order neutral”. Also because many have said Fleet Commander needs to be loaded after Watchtower. I just want to make sure because many are reporting no issues with Watchtower. I know that last statement doesn’t help you but I don’t want to ignore that either. I also know Bethesda wants feedback but will ask for a save file in your report, and if this is a game issue they need to know about it. Oh, you must also trry deleting your pipeline cache so your shaders can rebuild. Keep up the great work you do and good luck.

I also have huge stutters on Planets especially if there is lots of fauna and flora and random stutters in Citys like Akila and Atlantis.
And that is with a 4090, 9800x3d and 64gb 6000mhz ram CL30 and a 2TB Samsung SSD 980 Pro.
Like you said it has nothing to do with Hardware and everything to do with the game only Bethesda can fix it.

And yeah the runs fine on my PC crowd is really infuritating and basically exist for every game that releases today. Which can cause the developers to not actually fix the game because if enough people defend it they see no issue and have no reason to invest resources to fix the issue.

I hope Bethesda actually listens and fixes the issue.

Thank you for actually calling out the issue and telling it like it is keep it up.

Don’t get the stutter in the cities anymore, but I do get them in my oversized custom ship with modded parts.

Nvidia has been having driver issues with the past few updates, have you tried rolling back your GPU drivers? I would suggest rolling back to 566.36 if you are on a later driver and see if that resolves your issues.

Kolman langs voice from the neon trade authority came to mind when listening to this 2 day looong stutter rant…WE DONE HERE, TIME TO MOVE ON!

Do you just use creations or do you also use nexus?

I am using PC I don’t have Xbox or the latest PlayStation. I don’t have shattered springs dlc loaded, but I have loaded the watchtower mod. I have in total about 6mods loaded, and I am at lvl 10 from the start so I have yet to go NG+. I got captured by watchtower and met Torin, am still waiting to meet him at the space station to officially start the full quest. My starfield game runs very smooth so far. I’ll see how far I get to when I start getting stutters.

I’ve seen stutter in Bethesda games, but this is something else entirely. I mean you’re getting full blown 5-10 second pauses. Please don’t take this as a dismissal, but that doesn’t scream stutter to me. That screams, “a script is firing” maybe to activate some sort of game logic. I don’t think it hurts to rule out mods. It’s annoying, but Sista Citizen, please try and run the game without any mods installed. Just pure vanilla and see if you still get stuttering. If you do, then I’d put in a Help request to Bethesda so that they are aware of it. At least then that could rule out mods. I know you stated that aren’t running anything heavy. I looked at some of the mods you have listed in your video description. Just looking through, I can tell you that something like Fleet Commander is pretty script heavy. I don’t think anyone has thoroughly tested if it conflicts with Watchtower.

I went and downloaded a few and opened them up in SFIEdit. Specifically SKK Settlement Attacks and Horizon Beta. Horizon Beta alone as 39 different file headers. Including multiple activators, 9 different new cells, a new Form ID, multiple new NPCs, a new leveled space cell, a new planet (the station itself is categorized as a planet in the files), about 50 or so reference groups and 7 quests (most of which are hidden to the player and required for the mod to function and are working in the background at all times). Meanwhile, SKK Settlement Attacks has 4 form lists, 2 new factions (hidden from the player), a very long quest script that is always running in the background and multiple globals. I’m saying all this to say that on the surface some of your mods might look like they aren’t doing much, but underneath the hood, there is a lot going on. I mean this was just 2 mods. The hidden quests required for the mods to function are what I would think might lead to these pauses. Most likely it’s a mod conflict.

I agree that I don’t think its your PC, but at the same time, I don’t think it hurts to rule out all mods. Just starting a vanilla save, getting through the initial character creation and then console commanding yourself to New Atlantis, Akila or another performance intensive area to rule it out. If you don’t get any stutter, then it could indicate a mod issue, but if you still get stutter then you’ll know that it’s a Bethesda problem.

I’m not getting any stutters at all, but I feel for the players who experience them. Some glitches are like that. Not everyone will experience all of them. I played on my Xbox last night and it ran smoothly. Believe it or not, I’m now able to play on my Steam Deck and it runs great. It has nothing to do with getting another PC.

I had stutter at first but it seems to have cleared up. Not runnin a baller PC either. AMD 3800x with RTX 3070 running at mix highest and 2nd to highest settings. You do gotta call it out though because it cant improve if people burry their heads in the sand.

Great video Sista. Thank you.

I am plague with shutters on my ship.

I’ve said this on another channel, but the first thing I always do on NG+ is build outposts close to any big cities I have to visit because traversing through them with mods was a nightmare. I honestly think that Bethesda fixed it for the most part, but I ain’t taking no chances, and yeah, I’m seeing 3 sec stutter Sista Citizen.
And here I thought you were crazy. 😂 lmao😂

I was on your live when it happened and agree with you, at the time didn’t have any studder, now it was when the patch came in and was playing watchtower and when finished I when through unity, and experienced all the studder and some so my thinking that the patch itself didn’t take effect until ng+ or starting a new play through

They don’t have the talent to fix this issue. It will never be solved.

Im not getting stuttering but I am getting ctd more than ever. I totally agree, we waited since november foran update and got basically got no new content. Just bug fixes, and to have the bug fixes not even work is rough.

I play on Xbox X, I get some stutter when build ships then when I bump out and go back, it’s gone. I get hung up when I speed across a planet. I get it some stutter, not a lot. I love Starfield and I want it optimized. I like Watchtower, don’t love, meh on Shattered Space. I love the game, love the channel. All love

Heya Sista so just to clarify this is not a mod issue it is a Bethesda issue. the Same thing happens in Skyrim/Fallout 4 the problem is that Bethesda tends to change a lot of stuff on these big updates and are hoping that it will go away and it does not. So again it is not the modders it is 100% a Bethesda thing because it does not just happen in this game it does exist in other games

Does anyone here play with an intel core 265k? That cpu supposed to be cheaper and better than a 7800x3d in starfield. And more fps than 9800x3d when overclocked.

Meanwhile, perhaps using something like ‘Luke Stackwalker’ will show which stack process is causing the most hang ups.

How are you feeling?
You blew off some steam. [Shhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooosh!] 😆

Hey Sista, its not about loving starfield and trying to defend it or being part of a faction. It’s just that you run a heavily modded game so we are trying to help and see if that’s the issue. Do you run into this issue when you disable all mods? Please check that and then go from there.

Btw BGS mentioning fixing the stutters doesn’t mean that mods can’t be causing issues for you. And it also doesn’t mean every stutter was there issue. Please Sista just try disabling them all and see, we are trying to help. It’s not personal or hate at all 🙂

Love the content and keep it up 🙂

This is a common theme for Bethesda games. There are bugs or issues that some people experience while others don’t. Unfortunately, those who don’t experience it always make sarcastic comments when someone points it out. Now, to be fair, the mods need to be updated so the stuttering may be related to mods that will go away once the mods get updated. Watchtower is going to get an update soon, so it’s more compatible with the new update to the base game.

1600 hrs in…..Come on Uncle Todd!!!!!!!

Hi Sista when I play I also get the Stutter I hope they fix it they gotta know by now it really is taking the fun out of the game I had a stutter while in my Space Ship for the first time but I absolutely love this game I’m on the Xbox system thanks for keeping this Stutter known I love your coverage of Starfield and I will keep watching thumbs up.

Tell it like it is!