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Learn more about the technical side of the 9800X3D! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amQOwllDXWE

The whole CPU gen’s first actual new gen worthy product.

It seems like intel needs to accept its position in the market, slash prices to assume a price/performance strategy that further acknowledges that they’ve lost trust, and fire every corner cutting ROI squeezing idiot of an MBA they have in favor of getting some engineers in charge to start working to get back in the game.

I wish you guys would start testing DCS. It’s only one of the most demanding games on every aspect of a PC. Yes, I know the number of people in the DCS community is relatively small. But most are also the computer geeks that most can only hope to be. As I said, DCS is so demanding balance is tremendously important.

why the fuck are the 0.1%s fucked in r6s

Hmm? Why is 7950X outperforming the 7950X3D in these gaming benchmarks? Is the 3D version a scam?

with this price.. I am just waiting for the 5090 to drop and time to upgrade

what motherboard and cooling should i choose for 9800x3d + RX 6900 XT. Is there any tool to not make a bad decision with part choose? And what about ram – did 5600 is sweet spot for this cpu?

What are your plans for the Ryzen 7 9800x3d or Ryzen 9 9950x3d. MSI had leaked 9950x3d, is it worth the wait? what’s your thoughts on if it is worth the wait? gaming in mind 🙂

Next gen Intel: Sooooo prepare for our new MEGA 9 ULTRA HYPER 1234K CPU. This time. We added 2 more E-Cores, so its 8P18E26T now. This brand new and innovative chip has 5% more multicore-performance than our last chip, because we love gaming.

holy shit AMD has done it. Soon to be the leader in market share for desktop CPUs

I was looking for something that is improvement to previous gens for games like Total War/Civilization and other similar games that benefind heavilly from CPU because of shorter turn times. Seeing the Stellaris being 5 points ahead of competetion is exciting stuff!! And if I will be pressed for money I can go with I5-14600k, but I would really rather get something that is current gen, not 2 years old already. (technically 1y, but 13600k is basically 14600k and tha one is 2y old)

Sadly Total War built in benchmark are not representetive for CPU since in normal game you can have 5000 – 10000 units on screen, and benchmark has like few hundred…

I’m enthusiastically awaiting the new mobile APU’s with 40cu’s and possibly 3D vcache. For small, efficient laptops, this will be a great advancement for x86. I’d love to have a laptop I can do real work with, not requiring a power brick to be plugged in and discrete GPU. It looks like AMD might finally make some headway in the laptop market, if they don’t get in their own way. I’ll never understand why they do that.

You need add some Unreal Engine 5 games to this test…. there is a lot of games coming out on this engine on it and it got issue with shader compilation that are heavy CPU dependent.

You are the best, the only channel using heavy cpu demanding games like total war series.

I’m curious how well it’d perform in eco (65W) mode. I plan to have this chip in a future ITX build. 🙂

_Steve_content__accuracy__actual creativity_ best humor in the face of defective influencers and box ads __ time lag__latency_ and sports hypes free__loving it.

Its just not woth the money over a 7800x3d ….

No 4k results?

So am i changing my 13700k for this as my primary PC occupations are 4k gaming and photoshop/MSOffice ?

I love that Stellaris was in here. Burn all the xenos!

So? All cpus amd efficient is another lvl of compare shit intel.

While the performance in gaming clearly favors the 9800X3d, general productivity seemingly still favors the 285k. If I don’t really care about having the fastest gaming PC, but simply want to focus on Davinci Resolve or music production, aren’t I still better off with the 285k, despite the blunders?

So I got the 9800x3d the input lag in fps games is noticeable larger than 7800x3d all the same bios settings ? Cannot get it to feel as good as 7800x3d. Might honestly go back can anyone explain this ?

of course the ryzen 5900x comparison I am looking for is not on here

“You did that on purpose, Steve.” NICE! 👍

We need an add-in clip for life’s happy little accidents. Make it happen!

they increased the price of 7800x3d from 420 bucks, to now 560 bucks, and the 9800x3d being 650€ here in sweden. absurd, while the 14600k can be bought for 250€ brand new.

Amazing review, great video, i thoroughly enyoyedi it, thank you Gamer’s Nexus, thank you Steve.

Does it make sense to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 7500F with a 4070?

Man, it was a wild ride. Ryzen 1000’s were already nice cpu’s, and they only improved upon them to the point they’re not the “cheaper but slightly worse alternative” to Intel, but a viable replacement even for enthusiasts. I wonder if Intel will resort to their early 00’s tricks.

Now if AMD can only make a comeback in the GPU department all will be well (I use an RX 6800 and for the price I got it for it’s an absolute bang for a buck, but I won’t say it’s the best in its msrp range)

Would be nice if you added at least one chart at 1440p so we can know if to upgrade or not…. 1080p is good for testing but not for real scenarios 😢

Did you do any testing at higher resolutions? I’m curious how much and where the gaming benefit falls off.

9800X3D is full of win but only the 5090 will unfold the true potential of this CPU.

userbenchmark has a positive feedback on 9800x3d. can it be real? 🤯

Will this be a worthy upgrade from 5600x?

Why don’t we have 1440 or 4k results?

I find the direction the tech is going interesting… But I am not interested in pushing online mutiplayer titles to absurd FPS.

In the end, I only care about having a CPU that will not limit my GPU at the graphics settings I will be using.

Even with a 4090, midrange CPUs can keep up most of the time. The occasional dip due to poor optimization in NPC heavy areas happens in some titles.

For me, I am most limited by my screen refresh rate. I am also happy with a steady 60fps, and my current setup only dips below that in the aforementioned NPC heavy areas, and usually only by a few FPS.

So my advice for most people is to heavily balance for GPU, as you can probably reduce your CPU budget more than you think, and still get full performance from the GPU.

The only people who might want to flip that around a bit are people who love to play strategy games or are very competitive online FPS or other twitch based multiplayer titles. As better CPU performance means more to those situations.

I have the 7950x3d and I kind of want this… but must resist… at least until there is a price drop…

RIP Intel

I like the idea of the variable price plots. I’ll often use your reviews to determine what is a “good value” but it’s sometimes hard to extrapolate the value to new prices from when the review was posted. This plot gives me more of a sense of how the value changes as competing prices change.

Thanks Steve!

Great thorough review. Gamers Nexus knocked it out of the park. 9000 kudos!

So Price-to-Performance:
5800x3d > 7800x3d > 9800x3d
?

🙂

Wow. Not a single game loses to Intel. Nice job, AMD. Image what performance this CPU can hit if being paired with the new IOD found in Epyc CPUs. 😳

9000series provides new chipset but still same socket. Intel, please, would you do that too?

Now I can wait few years and replace my 7700x for 9800x3d for cheap and still get few more years of good performance out of my rig. Now let’s hope we get a newer version of minisforum v3 (basically microsoft surface but with 165hz and 8840u chip for way less) with the new chips and I’m good on hardware for long time.

Definitely off topic, but as a long-time viewer of your channel, I’m having a hard time dealing with the emergence of your gray hair. 😂 mainly for the reason that it reminds me that I, too, am getting older

Trying to decide if I should upgrade from a 5800X (not 3D), looks like some good gains. that I’ve missed out on.

could it have davinci resolve test?

Red goez fasta

Is this type of cpu best for VR gaming with a connected cable to the PC?

Thanks Steve!

This reminds me of the AMD FX era but with Intel being the pinata

AMD, STOP MURDERING INTEL! It’s already dead!

Will NH-D15 work or should I go with AIO?

Intel went the wrong researchpath as it seems. Not that it was a gamble. Ignorant viewpoints and brutforce lead to desaster.

Power consumption, particularly at idle?
Bills to pay. I’m not made of electricity.

Well ASUS have reported they’ve hit a LN2 overclock of 6.0Ghz on the 9800X3D.

And Jay has now released a video about PBO automatic overclocking and shown there’s tons of head room still possible above 5.4Ghz he achieved with PBO.

So I guess a GamersNexus LN2 Livestream pushing this thing to the limits is on the horizon and you guys are just being rather hush hush about it. 😀

Even that I have the money, I would never buy a CPU for over 300,00 €. Nearly 500,00 bucks for an 8-core CPU is nuts.

Im europe 9800x3d at 600 euros

teşekkürler steve İstanbul’dan sevgilerle, videolarınıza Türkçe altyazı koyarsanız sevinirim,4k oyun için intel mi yoksa amd mi daha iyi,intelin çekirdeği çok 4k da sonuçlar değişmi teşekkürler

RIP intel

What motherboard was used for these tests? You’re listing GPU, cooler, paste and memory, but can’t find the motherboard here or on the website article.

Place the 285k into an MSI MEG Z890 GODLIKE with some B-Die and rebench.

Why there is no 1440p benchmark?

I shall help you with the football analogy.

AMD fumbled the ball 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

Intel picks up the fumble recovery. Uh oh, going the wrong way down the field with 12 seconds on the clock.

AMD with the miraculous tackle and fumble recovery, sprints, dives for the end zone pylon, TOUCHDOWNNNNNNNN AMD.

WHAT A GAME WINNING TOUCHDOWN FOR AMD!!!!

Alright, back you, Steve.

From Steve.

7800X3D is still better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Me with 5600x: you don’t need the upgrade, you don’t need the upgrade.

Could you run all these tests using a R7 1700 please! So I can see how well my CPU is decimated?! LOL

As someone who plays games but is mostly doing productivity I was wondering would it be better for me to go for the 9800X3D or go for the (currently cheaper by £50) 9900X and loose the L3 but gain 4 cores?

growing up loving intel cpu’s
from my old i5 2500 i5 3570 i5 4590 i7-3770 i7 4770 i7-4790k
i7 7700k
from this one i started noticing that there is no big upgrade!!! from intel
once I upgraded to Ryzen 3600x bro this cpu made me fall in love with Ryzen!
and never think of going back to intel
first because of high price motherboards !!!
now with my Ryzen 7600 and m loving it
amd still best cpu choice!

All hail the mighty die, for it has spoken; 1.

I watched Steve eat an entire 9800X3D

6:59 the title says “20-Minute test” while the X axis has the max value of 200 seconds (similar at 7:10 with max value of 500 s). Does anybody know why? Thanks.

Why not test at much more realistic 4K High/Max settings? You are using the fastest hardware currently available…

and with the bew AGESA the bios updates will give more performance and better memory speeds

on amazon as of today i only saw some priced at 750 and up for the 9800x3d and the 7800x3d was 799.00

Your voice is headache inducing

I don’t understand what the hype is about, it’s MUCH more expensive than the 9700X (almost $300 AUD) and the 9700X in 105W TDP config closes the gap with it for the most part. I just don’t see it having any value whatsoever.

Please test Stellaris LATE GAME, not the start.

I dokt understand why 7950x3d is much lower than 7800x3d. Dorsnt it just use thr 8 cores in gaming and perform the same? It did in all other reviews so whys it doing so badly in this one?

the 9800x3d is going to be retail in canada for 660, if you do the currency conversion that will put it at 475 usd to us should be 480.

Intel keeps making bad moves for too long. The whole new socket for a new chip is really getting old. Watching AM5 chips stomp Intel 14th and 15th gen is kind of sad.

When are the 9900X3D and 9950X3D releasing?

so the secret is to put the cache in the basement

The scalpers got all the 9800xrd’s they’re all on ebay so fkn great

Yes, let’s finish off Intel! Earn your salary from AMD, Nexus! After all this, you will buy processors from the monopolist AMD for 2000 bucks! Good plan guys!

Intel rolled a 1 LMAO!

So how are the dice balanced with the inductors inside of them?

the 245k should be cheaper than a 9600x 265k cheaper than a 9700x and 285k probably about the same or cheaper than a 9900x then they would actually be competitive choices after windows fixes the scheduling issues

Came for the review, stayed for the autographed snowflake dice set 😉

9800x3d is $300 more expensive than a 9700x here 🙁

is it worth it to upgrade 14900k to 9800x3d at this point, or should we wait for intel responce?

think i could wait for the 11,800 x3d if i just got a 7800 x3d this spring?

Just for laughes you should have a Snowflake the cat hand roll the dice during advert content👍🏻

*A MOMENT OF SILENCE…*

*for all the homies that purchased Intel’s CPUs.*

36:33….

NO….. ALL THE BENT PINS!!!!!

Love the new experimental charts especially the price point comparison

Frankly speaking by 2026 if Intel survives then it will see the turnaround

and its gone….. freaking scalpers.

anyone know why there are no 2k 4k benchmarks? I am new to this. GPU bound right?

Cool but i miss the undervolting ….

Thank you for including the Ryzen 7 5800x3d in your tests. I won’t be trading this off for a WHILE so these help me gauge what I have.

Thanks, dude!

Yeah, Intel can hang it up this launch 🤣

Thank you for switching the stellaris results back to lower is better, makes much more sense!

Can you add what API is used for the each game on the chart next time? (DX11, DX12 or Vulkan)

Finally, I may be able to play a huge galaxy to endgame in stellaris… (I have been saying this since stellaris came out)

Why does Hardware Unboxed always have the same thumbnails and post at exactly the same time?

What happened to these 7950X3D gaming results? In your older benchmarks it was pretty close to the 7800X3D for a lot of games or even better. Could this be that it was installed without a fresh windows and some weird driver behavior like what was talked about in your original 7800X3D review? Maybe that topic needs another visit once other 9xxxX3D cpus are released.

Could you test Cities Skylines 2 simulation time with different CPUs please?

Mind blowing

Do you think People should wait 7 months for the AMD Ryzen AI MAX Pro 300 family with NPU for AI ? or do you think AI won’t be used in Games ?

Great video as always, but I’m conflicted more than ever now. Is it worth getting the 5950/5900x these days to prolong the life of the AM4 platform? I have the 3600x and mainly use my pc for animation/productivity with the occasional gaming session thrown in. Still running a GTX1070 and planning on upgrading to a 4070/ti/super once the 5000 series drop. Would greatly appreciate some advice.

Glad to see my 5800x3d is still a big dog

Imagine buying a $500 CPU to play games at 1080p lmao

Still trying to sell the same games, I see.

I still have a 7950x3d pc without a gpu sitting under my desk. I haven’t had time or budget to finish this but I think I’m just gonna go for it

MSI pushed this to 7.2 GHz on LN2….I’m feeling an LN2 OC stream!!!

Never thought i’d see intel launch bulldozer 2.0

First trump now red team drops a banger. Cant stop winning

I did not notice where was it mentioned as to which motherboard was used to test the 9800x3d?

I’m glad this is such a good part.

But at 1440p dosen’t actually matter what CPU u use no?

Ohhh Christmas is coming!

Glad I grabbed my 7800X3D when thew price was low, 15% more performance but less efficiency wasn’t worth it

But Userbenchmark says Intel is faster

12:16 looks like getting the 5800X3D was the best thing I did for XIV

Does anyone know why the R5 5600X3D beats out the R5 5700X3D in a decent amount of benchmarks? (also what’s everyone’s take on the best bang for your gaming buck right now? R5 5700X3D for <$200?)

This is the first time I’m actually interested to see how the 9950X3D chip will preform given the performance benefit of relocating the 3D Vcashe. AMD should have just release the X3D chips and just scraped the non 3D chips.

I’ve always bought intel because it always felt plug and play in a build. I was waiting to change out my bad mobo for the next gen intel chip just to see they released garbage. For the first time I’m considering going amd. I hear that there are a lot of memory issues and amd specific problems in games. Anyone have experience with amd? Can you confirm or refute?

That Baldur’s Gate 3 chart 😱

never felt more validated owning a 5800x3d as a 4k gamer than now. it’s going to be incredible going to the first am6 3D cpu lol

Great insights and fun stuff as always Steve. Thank you deeply for this amazing review.
Now I just have to wait. Because the processor sold out in 4 minutes!

Anyone else almost suffocating because he won’t breathe lol?

4:45 former price of 7800x3d $449
Former price of 7800x3d, motherboard and 32 GB ram at micro center: $449

Naturally I’m looking for 9800x3d bundle for $449 in 12-18 months. I have a 5800x

I still find it hilarious that there is no 5950x on any benchmark charts.

Seriously, how come neither you or Linus tech tips include the AMD 5950X in any of your benchmarks?

Intel missed the opportunity to get so hard with this one 💀💀💀💀💀💀

The performance difference between the 9800X3D and 14900K is astounding, especially when you consider that the former’s TDP is 133W lower. I can’t believe I just typed that.

Can you do some World of Warcraft tests? X3D CPU’s are best for WoW. Thank you.

just an fyi to the ff14 players, if you use a controller, there’s a bug where the microsoft device association root enumerator will cause the framerate to spike down to unplayable levels no matter what cpu you’re using. if you play on controller disable it in device manager and your framerate won’t see huge spike downs

AMD to Intel in the CPU segment
is like NVIDIA to AMD in the GPU segment.

The real loser is intel because they are losing on both fronts (CPU AND GPU).

Ordered ASAP

9800x3d, mb, ram bundle available for same price as 285k 😂

soo hyped for 9950x3d

Wow… Just totally geeked out on this video… impressive, clear & concise… Cheers @GamersNexus

13:18 You know the part is good when you’re double quadruple checking the score and asking others if they got the same results cuz of how well its performing

I had to check my playback speed on this one mate, way too fast!

Better gains than I thought but looking at those power delta compared to the 7800 I guess that’s where most of it is coming from, plus TSMC’s clever new packaging. Still an overall stupid processor at least at launch price, almost 500 dollars for an 8 core CPU in late 2024 is a bit ridicolous no matter the 370 fps instead of 300 it gets in some titles. When and if it drops to something like 370 then maybe but I’d never pick it over a 7950X/14900K or the 100 dollars cheaper 9700X/14700K/265K for a sometimes 30% increase in 1080p gaming, and I’m not sure many should

Thank you GN for the power efficiency testing. I’ve always considered this to be the only meaningful measure of cpu/gpu progress and have always had to roughly calculate it based on the not very reliable tdp numbers to judge if an upgrade is an upgrade in actual compute performance or just a not very helpful upgrade in my rooms electric heating.

For gaming X3D, for productivity just X. the performance per watt of the 7800X3D is impressive and very capable still for high gaming experience.

I just upgraded my AM4 system to the 5800X3D paired with a 6800XT and i can run most games maxed at 1440p with great frame rates. AMD killing it on the CPU end right now

Yeah, great CPU. Now can they please ffs learn to code a display driver.

Hope you do some DDR5 speed testing with the new Intel and AMD CPUs soonish.
I feel like we are finally seeing more stable 7000+ configurations and would be interesting to see how some applications scale these days.
And if there is a difference at all.
May or may not include DDR4 for good measure.
Thank you Steve and GN Team!

Home Run Steve! Sportsball!

Does the Arctic Liquid Freezer III offset mounting still hold strong with the revisions to how the 9800X3D is manufactured?

lol what a joke – no one plays at 1080p anymore and at 2k/4k this CPU is pointless…

I’m glad AMD finally missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and put out a great product. I’m glad I was wrong expecting another disappoint 2-4%. Great job, AMD.

need to send Intel my 10900k to remind them what a cpu used to look like

it worth upgrading from AMD 5950x to 9800XCD?

PLEASE SHOW 4K. i need the constant reinforcement i don’t need to upgrade

Looking forward to upgrading my Board and CPU Great Black Friday and Cyber Monday are coming soon.

Should o upgrade from 12600k

Day 2 of requesting Gamers Nexus to thermal test lian li o11 vision compact with 11 fans configuration.

next PC build will def be AMD after having to troubleshoot for months only to find out 13-gen intel was defective

HAVE THE 7800x3d, GREAT CPU…NEVER ANY ISSUES

This channel is going to start getting shadowbanned by secret shadow agencies …

5800X3D, 7800X3D and 9800X3D are the elite trifecta of efficiency, performance and power. AMD has really been shining with the Ryzen/Zen line and has revamped their Radeon line as well. Intel better get their act together with a quickness because their last three generations of CPU’s have been complete and utter failures. Hopefully their ARC GPU’S survive. Competition is always healthy in the long run.

The 5700x3d looks like an interesting upgrade to my 12100f, but it is 176% more expensive, a bit too much for a 60% performance lift wtf.

$700 on amazon right now lol

I really wish you guys would do more real world testing. 1080 testing is useless for me as a consumer. Its more useful to tribal dick wavers than anything else.

came for snowflake goodbye

What im hearing is that my 7800x3d last year was a and remains a great decision, noted.

X3D is going down as a legendary technology for gaming CPUs. It’s quite impressive stuff, and the power usage is just icing on the cake.

get ready for NVIDIA CPU

I’m having a hard time to understand you in this video. It’s like 1.25x speed or something. Am I the only one?

goddamn — even RNG doesn’t like Intel…

The USD/FPS at various 7800X3D prices charts is a very interesting and useful addition to the review! Thanks, Steve!

Bro u need to bench monster hunter wilds beta re engine same this time cpu limitation as dragon dogma 2 before optimized maybe is the heaviest game right now if u have dragon dogma pre cpu update too it will be awsome 🙂

I have an I7 8700k… is it time to upgrade 😂

I am interested to see how the new core improvements with v cache will pair in 9950x3d.

Why is Intel doing so well with 0.1% lows in R6? Was Userbenchmark right all along?

Für den Amd Ryzen 7 9800X3D welche mainboard soll man kaufen .?

I can’t get my head around why people would pay an extra “$200-300” more for a chip that is not as much better than it’s competitor, maybe because I’m a gamer over productivity. Shows the “tech ” market is failing & destroying itself through greed. 30% better productivity you can’t make a cup of coffee in that time. What are people to do when we all struggle for the simple things in life ?? Coming soon ??

It’s absolutely wild to see that the 5600X actually outperforms the 9950X in some games like Total War Warhammer III. That doesn’t make any sense.

Still looking. Amazon $999 🤨

Beautiful %iles

pre order price here in Norway is above 600$ from the official retailers.. Will be a good time to pick up a R7 7800X3D instead i guess

Has anyone tested 4090 and 9800x3d at 4k yet?

I’d love to see a follow up using the 65W Eco Mode, Wendell suggested that it gave up very little performance when dropping the power a lot

So AMD CPUs can be bottlenecked by a 4090?
Time for Intel engineers to apply for internship at AMD, they need to learn everything again

You are such Nerds! And i Love it!

Intel is no match! The last few years was only Ryzen!
Pad is still waiting for his Zen moment… Not gonna happen Pad ; )
There is Threadripper, APU, Server which all are AMD

Can the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D be compared to the Apple M4, M4 Pro, or M4 Max CPU? Who is more powerful for CPU performance? Memory bandwidth?

AMD unironically taking the gaming crown from Intel is an astonishing comeback tbh. I really thought they were dead with Bulldozer, im glad to see Ryzen literally bring a company back from the dead, and then go on to take the lead(in gaming, for now, ofc)

OK so I have a 7800x3D CPU, what GPU should I look into getting?

I know the 5000 series is slated out and the 8000 series but is it worth grabbing like a 7900XTX, 7900XT or like a 4070Ti/4080 instead of the new series?

Looks like it is about time Ryzen 5 getting their 3D in the near future.

I heard that SnapDragon is considering buying intel. I wonder if intel is done. If nobody buys their processors they will go out of business and then AMD will have a monopoly. Of course We’ll have to see what other developments they can come up with.

I’d love to see some CPU+xxx$ motherboard at comparisons, since these days the price of them gets wild without people noticing until they actually start building, and then it’s hard to find references

Its amazing here in sweden amd ryzen 9800X3D sold out in 4 min this is what gamers want a real game changer for future gaming!

Of course, it is being sold for 100 over MRSP in Europe

So, now that the actual price is out, its selling for 539 Euros here. My 7800X3D was 475 Euros. 64 Euros more for the new one.

just got a 14700K for $280 from the fire sale

I understand why the team uses 1080p for benchmarking but I feel like anyone upgrading to 9000 series or 14th gen would be running at least 1440p. It would be nice to see if the increase in performance stays the same at higher resolutions.

All Steve love some good o benchmarks

So sexy

Correction from an electrical engineer: 1 watt = 1 joule per second. So instead of “millions of instructions per joule” the unit would be “millions of instructions per joule per second.” Joule is a measure of energy. Power is defined as energy per a given period of time. So power = energy / time : watt = joule /sec. Since the time period is 1 second, the numbers shouldn’t change, just the unit.

It’s a good generational increase. I hope that the 9950X3D will be just as impressive.

Bought for 479 today

will the 9800x3d be supported by Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 motherboard? or suggest me another

I haven’t had a intel system since a 4790K. Hard to believe.

Imagine the performance of the next X3D processor with a New IO die.

Huh
They moved the cache down there
AMD is a power bottom now

I almost feel bad for Intel but that’s what they deserve for luring people for over a decade with their tic tac toe “upgrades” rather than allocating their ressources foe real research and improvements

Requiesce in pace, Intel.

RIP AMD

Sold out already holy crap!

I bought my 7800x3d on a combo deal on newegg (canada) for $509. Im very lucky I got it before it jumped up in price tons more.
I tried to perchase the 9800x3d if the price was not too much more than that, but it’s sold out immediately, of course.

But looks like I will keep the 7800x3d until end of am5 3d chips. And buy a 5080 or 7900xtx. I have a 7800xt that works amazing but a wast for the cpu I have. Still unsure if i want to stick to 2k or move to 4k monitor

Finally someone with normal graph scales. No cutting of graphs so difference would look bigger.

@GamersNexus Would it be possible for a future showing the 9800X3D testing the claims made by Gigabyte in regards to “boosts gaming performance by up to 35% for incoming Ryzen 9000X3D CPUs, up to 20% for Ryzen 9000 processors, and by an unknown margin for Ryzen 7000X3D products without clearly specifying the baseline for comparison. Yet, it acknowledges that performance improvement depends on ‘processor model and DRAM conditions.” I feel that with todays release consumers will need to know where to best place their money for not only performance, but in reliability as well. Hope this makes for a great addition if this idea hasnt already been mentioned! 🙂

This leads a consumer to believe that not only will the initial baseline of the 9800X3D be higher(credit to AMD), but their board alone while running the newest bios update with turbo enabled will allow up to 20-35% better performance.

Consumer source here:
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/gigabyte-x3d-turbo-mode-promises-up-to-35-percent-higher-gaming-performance-on-ryzen-9000x3d-ryzen-9000-could-see-up-to-20-percent-improvement

In the FFXIV benchmark (12:22), the 5600x3D managed to beat the 5700x3D in both 1% lows and average FPS.  This is unexpected.

Does anyone know a reviewer that tests new CPUs with Handbrake included as a test?
Tnaks in Advance for any answer.

Why does everyone run these benchmark tests at 1080P? Doesn’t seem very relevant when most people have moved on from 1080p. Especially people in the market for a 9800x3d or a 285k.

But still too expensive to be of any value to most people

30:16 I like how you did $420 in green there. 😉

Hi should I buy a 7800x3d or the new 9800x3d

what does OOS mean on your cpu pricing chart ? thanks

Dumb question here…. When I was young, the Core 2 Duo released and started Intel’s upward trajectory and basically for almost a decade and a half AMD was basically relegated to the bargain section. Every release felt underwhelming.

But now AMD is on top (for a relatively short time too), and the news cycle is almost making it seem like Intel is going to go insolvent if it doesnt get funds. How is this possible? Does anyone actually understand the situation at Intel?

All i need to know is that Intel rolled a nat 1 in the video. Dice christ has spoken.

maybe that’s the cpu that won’t suffer from cpu bottleneck within this decade

So I know the majority of people still play at 1080p, however wouldn’t it be ok to include at least 1 test, if not all games tested, at 4k resolution too? You are calling it a gaming CPU yet ignoring both 1440p and 4k gaming.

For me personally I skipped most of the review because it has no relevance to what I game at. I also won’t even consider buying a CPU without seeing results from 4k gaming. It’s sad that I have to watch let’s play videos just to see 4k gaming results.

Please include some higher resolution game Play for every CPU! Even if at that point it’s more video card, it’s still useful to see for everyone.

450 MSRP.. so 530-600 depending on the retailer. THats insane value for how strong the CPU is (at least for gaming PCs).

Would have liked to see some test at 4K. I assume at 4k there is no point in upgrading my whole system from a 14900KS to this as the improvements would be lost or minimal?

Those Baldur’s Gate numbers… holy shite!

Well… let see the bright side of life for the new Intel cpus: because of the long new naming scheme (which does not make chips go faster), its easier to see them in the charts.
And yes folks, thats about it.

Userbenchmark surprisingly doesn’t have anything bad to say about it. Maybe they are waiting for people to get a hold of them.

Perhaps they have finally conceded slapping cache on the die just works

Can we maybe include a single 1080p vs 1440p vs 4k on a single game for scaling reference?

9800X3D is about 249% (2.5 times more) more expensive VS 5700X3D currently in Norway. 7800X3D is currently 219% more expensive VS 5700X3D. DDR4 can be had currently for half the price of DDR5. AM4 motherboards can be had cheaper aswell, but not substantially cheaper if you compare a nice B550 to an okay B650. In Norway you could buy AM4 motherboard, 32GB RAM, 5700X3D AND a RX 7700 XT graphics card for the same price you would pay for just AM5 motherboard, DDR5 and a 7800X3D with no graphics card! That is something to think about!

They should have put a x3d chip in a ps5. Cache for gaming is insane.

i reckon u should sell your own prebuilt PC only 1 configuration to keep simple, in 1 year or when grace architecture becomes cheap and gaming version. ID BUY IT!!!

Thanks for including a code compilation benchmark.

What is it like with Microsoft Flight Simulator?

Intel this intel that, they have sucked for far too long, almost been a monopoly on the market. CIA loves them though

In Europe people are already biting into 9800x3d stock even at inflated prices 🤦🏻‍♂️
+540€
The 7800x3d is above 480€ also.
I want to change my 13600K but not at inflated prices…

It’s a $580 cpu and 1080p has been dead for 10 years.

we eating good games with this new cpu in 2025

im still running a ryzen 2600 and gtx 1070, pray for me

Good day for 1080p gamers 🙂

I don’t know gamers nexus how are not exhausted to show benchs and results in 1080p res and 2k, and nothing in 4k, probably are paid to not benchmark in 4k as the results will be no improvement to previous gen. 1% increase in gaming 9800x3d to 7800x3d in 4k resolution. Nobody any longer plays on 1080p or 2k res except on tournaments. Whoever plays on 1080p better get Nintendo or sega mega drive 2 you will get better visuals and graphics 😀 Neither AMD neither Intel created better gaming CPU compared to ex gen. The new gen is on par with the previous gen., period! It is just like iphones, every year new number behind the new model and few minor barely visible improvements. Do not be a simple consumer that buys every year the new model just because it is the newest model. Personally myself I buy things as GPU for example when there is a 70% increase compared to my current older model. I have seen many people playing on rtx 4090 in 1080p which is complete absurd, this card is meant to play in 4k where you have the best fidelity, visuals, graphics, crisp picture and eye happiness of every detail in modern games!

yeeeeaah about msrp… 576 euro retail:) just saying that basing a chart (even experimental) on msrp price which you cannot find anywhere (don’t know maybe there are some US retailers who are into charity) but for EU it’s 20% VAT from the get go. just a little bit of feedback regarding experimental charts.
Keep up the spectacular work.

Let’s just admire that the 5800x3d is STILL at the top on charts how many years later? Like AM4 is the relic that is outliving generations.

bench Broken Arrow beta?

Might as well go for the 9800x3d instead of 7800x3d because round about same price

I’m sure I’m not the first person to ask, and I’m sure I won’t be the only person to ask: any chance for a dice set that has a mixture of both an inductor and Snowflake?

+ cudimm ram, 9000 series seems to have a lot of upside

I’ve been a very happy customer of AMD Ryzen CPUs …… but even happier with all their X3D CPUs for my gaming rigs🥰👍. Saying that I’ve purchased a 9800X3D for one of my gaming rigs and soooo lookin* forward to putting my RTX 4090 through its paces even more so now💪🥳. This cpu is an absolute beast!

Ryzens Zen 5 architecture has been a but ‘meh’😒 but it added AVX to its CPUs snd tweaked its cache etc which has proven valuable in some workstation applications 💪🤩but not so in gaming ☹….. yet now we’re seeing that cache restructure etc paying off more so in conjunction with X3D V-cache in gaming and getting some very results and in other games reviewers are needing to double/triple check results as they’ve improved that much😳🤯🥳! It will be interesting what Zen 6 can achieve😱

To play at 4K resolution with an RTX 4090, is it worth changing my Ryzen 7 5800X for this 9800X3D?

That shit is expensive but also at the same time makes every dollar count.

You know what this makes me wonder, if nowdays you are better off investing 100$ more into an X3D cpu rather than into the gpu, would be a interesting thing to review for the ~1000/1500$ pc budget

The craziest part of this is still the massive efficienty advantage amd has over the newest intel architacture on their new production node they are using.

This has great advantages for the future of the architectures.

I have a 7800x3D. My friend is about to buy the 9800x3D. Do I have anything to continue to brag about other than (power) efficiency or am I cooked?

Love the reoccurring theme. New product launches, people who actually want to upgrade their dated computer try to purchase. Scalpers buy all the stock from every store and resell THE SAME DAY. From $480 MSRP increased already on eBay and Amazon for $1000.

I have a 7800x3D, so I’m not in a hurry to upgrade.
But, this gives me so much optimism for the future of AM5

Going to see how the Ryzen 9 X3D holds up in comparison, ofc I know gaming throughput won’t be better but I’m waiting to see how close it gets to the 9800X3D even with 2 CCDs as both CCDs will have that tasty 3D v-Cache. A lot of people say that both CCDs having 3D v-Cache won’t do much but waiting and seeing won’t cost me anything.

But from what I have seen Intel is a non-starter in comparison to AMD’s offerings and I say this as someone using Intel for my desktops since Sandy Bridge.

AAANNDDD, it’s immediately sold out on release. It was up on Amazon and Newegg for about a minute, by the time I got to the cart for checkout it was gone. Placed an order at Microcenter, we’ll see how that goes, they’re not open yet.

Honestly; the gains don’t seem that big in titles that are actually harder to run like DD2; really want to see more benchmarks from titles like that rather then old ones. More efficiency is nice but I am honestly not worried about wattage, I want a more powerful CPU to brute force through poorly optimized titles.

I can see how this cpu crushes everything, including the 7800x3d @1080p. Is it also a significant FPS boost over the 7800x3d @1440p?

Where’s MS Flight Sim? Very CPU heavy

Havn’t really watched the new Intel lineup or the other Ryzen 9000 lineup reviews, but it’s nice to see FFXIV Dawntrail with the Ryzen 5 3600 (closest to me 3500X) included! I’m looking forward to seeing some new GPU benchmarks once the next gen GPUs start to come out unless there’s a GPU revisit by then to see how the GPUs would compare to the CPUs at 1080p considering it was still Endwalker for the last GPU benchmark that was the 1080 Ti revisit.

Just snagged one off Amazon and can confirm 479.00 price

if you know someone who just woke up from a 7-yr coma, tell them “Intel bad, AMD good”

they’ll be shock to their core lol

Very useful review and happy to see the continued success of the x3D platform for gaming. Would love to see 1440 testing especially in comparison to the 7800x3D, as I’m hearing it’s a minor uplift at best and would like to confirm

I just got one on newegg for $480 and It said it coming soon and still let me add it to my cart lol

Baldur’s Gate 3 FTW
But it seems this “RIP Intel” is more on the gaming side, productivity-wise Intel still leads the pack.

better watch these on mute…ffs my ears bleed.

2:35 Jesus Christ Steve breathe brother

That baldurs gate 3 result is Fucking. Nuts.

I’m loving the humor in this video! Way to go Steve! 😂

as a 13600k owner last year….i really really want this CPU but id have to change my ram and motherboard tooooooo

Is the 285K a bad product or just priced wrong?

3D cache is cheating

I am wondering if because it is stronger than current intel is it so good that it wins over in adobe premiere too?

Damn

Think it’s time for my i7-8700k to retire.

Am blown away by the reviews for the 9800X3D, but amusingly its also made me happier I got the 7800X3D, that power draw really matters for me xD

i havent seen all of the video yet. can some 1 tell me is there is any mention of 4k or 1440p resolution?

So happy to still see the 5800x3d preforming so well :D. Got mine at the start of 2023 on a whim, upgraded from my 3900x.
Gave the 3900x to my sister upgrading her 3700x, and build my dad a new pc with the 3700x. Not only was it a great upgrade for me, but it also facilitated upgrades for the whole family 😀

Thanks, Steve.

@GamersNexus About these experimental charts: Great ideas, but the presentation is really bad.
1. Delta in USD/FPS: It doesn’t make much sense to plot all price alternatives, they will be linear by definition. Instead just tell the break-even price per game, i.e. the price at which the 7800X3D will have the same USD/FPS as the 9800X3D, meaning a lower actual price of the 7800X3D favors the 7800X3D and above favors the 9800X3D. Also note how many AVG FPS one gets (e.g. as smaller number right below the theoretical $ price), it’s important for reference. Then calculate and show other CPUs as well in a table (rows are CPUs, columns are games; so don’t add too many; you might add another table for general workloads). Same could work for GPUs. This even allows people to recalculate the values if the price of the 9800X3D changes…
2. % Increase Power vs. % Increase Performance: You definitely want that to be a XY coordinates system. Plot the performance increase on the X axis and the power increase on the Y axis. Both axis should range from -50% to +100% (with equal distance, because negative percentages; depending on the results you might want to choose a different range). Also put a diagonal line in the chart: above that line is worse, below is better. Then put small markings in the chart to mark the games (one game gets circles, another squares, another crosses, another triangles, etc. – there aren’t many more, so this also limits the number of games). You can then even compare multiple CPUs (also works for GPUs) at once: Define a reference CPU (should always be the tested CPU, i.e. the 9800X3D) and plot all games with the 7800X3D e.g. in blue, 5800X3D in green, all games with the 285K in red, all games with the 14900K in orange, etc. But don’t add too many, I guess six CPUs max. It should give a pretty nice overall picture of how the tested CPU compares to other CPUs when looking at the colors.

How are boot times and have any memory training issues been fixed?

i got unsub? wtf youtube

me cheering Amd while watching this using athlon x2

Other Steve planting CPU on WH40K mini. You’re selling dice. Is this a hint of boardgaming with Steves in future?

Looks like 9700x is still no good…

Userbenchmark comment about the 7800X3D –
‘PC gamers considering a 7000X3D CPU need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers are paid handsomely to promote overpriced niche products (X3D, EPYC, Threadripper etc.).’
Cant wait for the 9800X3D review. I havent laughed this well in weeks.

The reason the non x3d parts weren’t much of an improvement is probably because they focused on memory optimisations and architectural changes to facilitate the x3d lineup.

intel me they’ll do better next time lol

Need Factorio benchmark. People on forums were having some wild improvements on the 9800X3D

Damn those lows are sexy

Still im purchased inel 😢

can you include simulations such as xplane and msfs….?

Userbenchmarks: Still not as good as an i3 CPU.

What’s with the 0.1% lows being so low for rainbow 6 siege and intel cpu’s scoring over a 100 points higher?Does it mean siege is a stutter fest with amd cpus?

This launch should be considered a war crime 😶

So how much better is the 9800x3d than the 7800x3d in 1440p ultra? If you’re using one of these chips you’re probably not playing in 1080p

Thank you for still keeping older CPUs like the 2600 and 3700X in the charts!

How are the emulator performance gains? And does yuzu run without issues on Zen 5? That would really make me consider upgrading now

4k test?

The blender render is such a useless benchmark anyone who is rendering in blender will be using a gpu. I really wish you guys would find a better test for cpu performance in blender and zbrush I really want to see how 3d cache helps on 3d sculpting programs. We’re left completely up in the air about whether more vcqche will be a benefit do I buy a 9950x or 9950x3d, no way to truly know where I will benefit which I really would love to know.

cualquier micro con actual con mas de 6 nucleos es bueno para jugar

Why is the 7950x3d so low in benchmarks? I thought the game bar detection fixed performance and core parking issues.

Is it worth upgrading my 7800x3d to 9800 ????

I gotta say… Had the rest of the 9000 series had the expected uplift of performance this generation. I believe the 9800x3d would look less impressive.

I’m pleased with its improved performance. But I’m still rotten that the rest couldn’t even average 10% over last gen.

just realised that after the nuclear war and the world been destroyed and next civilisation starts to grow, and they find these CPU´s they are going to wonder what level of tech we had and dont understand how something could be made so small, cuz their civilisation is the best and all mighty and it never been a better one than theirs.

🧙‍♂

Great for the Gaming .
However AMD does not recommend for Video editing and Adobe protect.
Intel and Nvidia are good.

Userbenchmarks ordering a new batch of copium tanks.

The FPS/W charts are good and helpful for people who don’t need 600 fps but are looking for an efficient CPU.

Any hope for rounded edge dice sets in the future?

Im glad what I started to support team red years ago! Now they are on top 😊

I’d love too see benchmarks at 1440p/4k so I can work out whether or not this is a useful upgrade alongside my 7900XT

Gotta admit that this x3D design is a blessing for gamers.

according to the automatic captions the 9800X3D comes with “extra cash”

2:00 Those Dice look incredible off balanced… I understand the testing and look forward to the video.

I like the structure of the review. And a good round-up for different use cases

Hopefully at some point AMD will also start dominating in graphics. (i said hopefully at some point)

Gotta admit that this x3D design is a blessing for gamers.

I wonder what are the 1440p benchmarks. Also I wonder how it will perform after the patches, because that power consumption is higher than 7800X3D and performance is lower at some points.

Oh the jewels is making me cry in boredom. Why is this done! It’s so over the top.

Make CPU’s Great Again

YES FINALLY SOMEONE WHO BENCHMARKS RAINBOW SIX!

AMD Raided intel homes ravaging and salting the land so that nothing grows again.

PC Mag gave the 9800X3D 2.5 out of 5 “Fair” 🤣

What is the ultimate gaming cpu 9800X3D or 9950X3D?

This chip is insane!

Sad for Intel…
I’ll save a bunch of money for this cpu and a new motherboard, probably better off replacing the 13900k with a 14900ks
I’m thinking more and more about switching to AMD

I’m actually impressed, where else can you get good tech journalism with high quality products they sell to support said journalism?

Lol real question how much is AMD paying you reviewers? Geez not everyone only games with a pc.

Not bad, not bad. i wont replace my 7800x 3d yet, but that is pretty good improvement

Will it be worth for 4k gaming since newer games are more cpu hungry?

Good sir, could you please include Heart of iron 4? Stellaris and that game eat cpu like booty cheeks

I don’t understand how many failed launches are needed for companies to learn that customers care far, far less about delays than disaster launches.

Do you think efficiency will be improved (over the 7800X3D) once some software side will be made in the next weeks/months?

A like and a comment due to including Stellaris. Really hope you add Civ 7 turn time benches when that releases.

So that was using 23H2, right?

Can you test Cities skyline 2 with this CPU ?

Intel just keep digging its own grave

Damn you beat me to: but the embedded thingies will affect probabilities! Need to assemble my old timers for some 2nd edition action.

I know the 5950x is kind of irrel in terms of performance these days, but when it comes to MIPS/W it was a star for a long time – would be good to see this CPU in the efficiency benchmark suite, particularly against the Zen 5 parts. I feel like this CPU provides more of a historical benchmark in energy efficiency than many of the other included CPUs, but on the other hand, people are more likely to be holding on to 5800X3D CPUs or lower. I’m not complaining with how comprehensive the charts are at all; I am simply curious into how it places in these benchmarks.

Definitely grabbing me one of these for my new build, a Christmas gift for myself .

No 1440p or 4K comparaison? not even one? :/