Htmx looks good but I don’t think it can replace react, angular or whatever because htmx replaces html blocks so I don’t know if it’s good for high interactivity websites, json or grpc have less weight than a html blocks or that what’s logic says

htmx is garbage

HTMX had the last laugh by remaining relevant in 2024

Poor poor frontend devs

So he trolled in reddit and got banned? And you all are whining?

2:04 the irony of feeling like HTMX is too much change, when it’s actually a return to the simpler ways of the past, just with partial page updates instead of full refresh

Excuses, excuses… There’s almost nothing to learn to implement htmx… Come on ! Nothing compared to React !

Funny how people can get so serious about these things.

Who uses Reddit anymore? Same goes for Twitter.

Being a Brazilian and as I always heard you talking about Brazil, I’m proud to say that Reddit is not a thing here.

Most of the people don’t even know Reddit exist.

as a PHP lover, i love using old shit because so many people have already found the stumbling blocks. the longer a language sticks around and is useful, the more time people have to document and use it

I’m a new developer (2 years college experience) and I absolutely love htmx

fk..sake, you said it! thankyou its unfair! 100% agree (abstraction hell!)

the moment the industry started to change to Angular.js & React I started to get into backend & maintainence projects so I have avoided react, entirely.

So I’m happily using Alpine & HTMX

FE web dev is the ultimate hamster wheel of burnout.

Social networks are just the new kind of asylum. I’m better out.

Reddit is where armchair managers can actually exercise their opinion

“HTMX is a breath of fresh air” – 100% agree!

unpoly has the same features of htmx?

One of the biggest problems with react is the attitude, “I invested so much time in this over-complicated mess, I don’t want to learn anything else”.
Same people are telling you Angular is “deprecated” lol, Vue is obsolete “no one uses it!”, and everything else is “non-performant” like they know what that means.
The reddit react subs and webdev are the worst places on the net for adult web devs to go, the FUD, lies and toxic hate on there is an embarrassment to us all.

Haha react simps are like those cats in 2002 who kept trying to build sites with tables and shim.gif, slamming that newfangled CSS nonsense.

HTMX + Alpine JS + Ruby on Rails 😊

I’ve been using react for nearly 75 years and it never really sit right with me. I always knew there had to be a better way so when htmx came out i switched and never turned back.

I’m naming my third child htmx

XHTML 2.0?

The complexity of web dev is why I never stuck with web dev after learning HTML, Dreamweaver, and a little CSS in high school. And it’s only gotten worse since then. (This stuff was supposed to be about documents hosted online, why are websites the equivalent of Excel roller coasters?)

The best non-music upload in youtube of 2023

Subreddits typically don’t like orgs/influencers who are stopping by primarily to promote their products because it sucks the air out of the room when your feed is clogged by those posts. There’s a platform that exists entirely for self-promotion: X.

I clearly don’t understand ANYTHING about web dev, even though I have done it on and off for decades now. PLEASE SOMEONE, TELL ME WHAT I CAN’T DO WITH STATIC HTML/CSS/JS ON A WEB BROWSER, THAT READS AND WRITES JSON FROM A REST API? We started doing that in the 1990’s and I honestly don’t understand why we need all these ultra complicated frameworks for writing a goddamn web page with some goddamn form fields!!

As a Reddit user, I confirm Reddit mods are soft-skin and butthurt

good luck banning it, it’s out of the box now 🙂

React sucks front end is too focused in that mess

that temple index hurt my heart. why are we rendering everything on the server these days? Jeff Bezos is drooling money just looking at that. Not only are we doing all the data crunching server side – now we are rendering shit for other people’s computers whiles their CPUs sit idle? We just need better front end languages beyond just javascript, or javascript with type definitions (that does nothing for the underlying code) and better data structures (so we aren’t sending json all the time). If we improved the front end tooling, we would not even consider server-side rendering. What is this PHP? Makes me sick.

When I started web dev, framestets were still a thing, you had to code at least two versions of a website (thanks IE) and designs were table based.
I honestly cannot tell you if I prefer the old shitshow to the new shitshow. I go back and forth on that one.

HTML is a serialisation format for articles. The fact that we’re building applications with HTML is an idiotic coincidence. As you have already mentioned, HTML was meant for static documents like articles. That’s why the terminology is centered around paragraphs, headings, titles, bullet lists, etc. It’s pretty much a coincidence that we ended up with an XML-like markup language. If things would have started slightly differently, we could have ended up with something like Markdown or LaTeX instead. That would certainly be a more ergonomic language to write articles in. And then today we’d be arguing about whether to render Markdown/LaTeX from JavaScript in the browser, or render it from servers with LaTeX-X or MarkdownX. The true answer is that we should move away from HTML entirely, as it’s neither suited for writing static articles nor for developing dynamic applications.

reddit mods are miserable people who relish the opportunity to use any form of power.

Honestly if this had a decent amount of battery life and ran Linux well I’d ditch my MacBook for this

Backend will take a lot more to die. Front end is childs play. Ok not really, but it’ll be simpler and simpler. Where backend requires different ways of thinking to advance. Front end is just different makeup on a pig. Building the pig is the hard part.

actually saying HTMX is considered offensive in their culture, they prefer HTMA and HTMO

htmx+V lang fill better than Go

Pretty sure the next project I would work on would be HTMX. The amount of difficult to do things, which are offered out of the box in HTMX is mind-boggling.

The problem with htmx is that on larger app with high to medium user traffic, the constant need to fetch data from the server doesn’t seems like the best idea. Otherwise, by itself you may also want some deeper client-side interactivity that htmx doesn’t seem really built for but maybe you can still do that on the side of htmx.

Very very true. If you use a horrible tool all the time for a long time you’ll get good at it even if it’s a shit tool like react. More people use it so mote things are created so more people use it.

my only problem with htmx: `` its still javascript , lose that. or to me its just as useless as pyscript

webdev got WAY tooo complex the recent years. for literally nothing. You can build all that stuff with pure javascript and html. Htmx is nice, because its easy and sane.

When HTMX can solve this stupid simple system I’ll switch:
– user OTP authentication to a portal / dashboard system
– portal page for orders purchased
– portal page for content owned
– portal page for buying ecommerce products
– cart system
– checkout system

Sadly it can’t do those things yet so we go with React / Next. I’m hopeful something like Astro + HTMX eventually could support basic systems like this but I doubt it will be anytime soon.

I was on reddit when it was new and fresh place – 15 years ago, then left as it turned into garbage. Why is anyone still there is beyond me.

Reddit is just SF culture at it’s core.. No other views allowed.

HTMX isn’t good. It doesn’t meet the semantic web specs and is bad for accessibility! The idea is good, but the negitive outweighs the positive.

why do you web pepole keep trying to save this platform with every new framework? just let it die already, it’s not going anywhere. the web today is far worse than it was 20 years ago. it takes 10 seconds to remove an item from the cart on a lot of major retailers because they use shopify or some stupid thing like that that you idiots invented… even they with the millions don’t even care anymore

I wish webdev be banned from the Internet

Reddit mods are usually psychotic, in my experience

I’ve gotten plenty of bans from various subreddits. Haven’t really changed my posting style over the years, slightly annoying corrections or saying unpopular things politely. The ban rate from subreddits and sitewide suspensions grew exponentially over the last 10 years, to the point I started getting banned from random subreddits like every month or so.

Took me like 7 years to get my first ban too. Then a few years for the next. Then still few years for the next, with around this time sitewide suspension.

It’s an echo chamber, and they’re quite open about it too. Most subreddits have rules that if you have different opinions than mods, that’s bannable offense, and they’ve started to enforce those rules more aggressively lately, towards ever smaller deviations from the consensus.

Don’t know the latest status of the service, I quit around a year ago.

Reddit mods aren’t people. They are weird amorphous blobs that think they are ascended beings that have the right to silence actual people.

Reddit is full of edgelords that get offended for no reason

Many reddits have mods that decide what can or can’t be posted. Usually creators are excluded and only meta news sources are allowed (and bots mass posting a link to 20 reddits, business posting GPT blog posts on subreddits for SEO and free traffic).

Don’t forget that minor/medium/major changes create a ton of outdated documentation and muddy water for anyone trying to learn

What’s old is new again… with a twist! Returning server rendered HTML was the original way to handle “AJAX” over 20 years ago. Also – continuous learning and adapting is literally the entire game so suck it up and do it.

My problem with htmx is reactivity. Writing data-first is amazing after struggling with jquery for so long.
I know I can write something similar with templates but ping-ponging data with the server for things that don’t require database interaction just feels BAD, not to mention the delay on every request.

they forget markup and scripting languages are supposed to make things easier for humans to read and write!

webdevs are mentally ill scripters

oh no man chad G pity is going to leave us without jobs, nothing happens, htmx is cheaper to develop than every thing else, wipes out half of front end developers…its normal to block this kind of things but the market is the market and there is nothing you can do to maintain the status quo, eventually is going to pop if it is really really good, as i think it is.

React is the new VisualBasic. Change my mind.

1:53 me writing html like i did in the 90s and asking chatgpt about implementing JavaScript.
I asked chat gpt to remind me how to centre a table cell and it gave me the css templates…. I dont know CSS! What i was looking for was td style=align centre.. not all this additional complexity.

in the year of our lord 2023 it is still possible to do just raw JS and some fancy html+css and build something basic but good looking. throw in some templating on the server side and you should be fine. HTMX feels like doing that but not actually having to write all the JS

Maybe Reddit is using AI moderators and we’re just seeing the actual first steps of Skynet…

whenever i express a little too much i get banned on reddit subreddit or reddit itself (7day)

I like the idea behind htmx, and I think they did a great job with it. I have always been a proponent of having html markup that is entirely semantic (whenever possible). And whatever frameworks you are using we are closer to that than we ever have been with modern CSS and shadow DOM. I think if htmx got shadow DOM support it would be a no brainer to use it. Without that, I do feel some urge to use a component system still.

This is all theoretical since I don’t do web dev professionally anymore, but I think if I got back into it today it would be rust + yew (In any case I feel that despite its improvements no amount of money can bring me back to regular javascript), and htmx is on the verge of convincing me it is a completely better developer experience

ok but based

reddit mods are the single worst thing about reddit … imagine being a FREE wage slave and in order to feel better about yourself you have to wield a power-hungry ban hammer over simple stupidity. Aren’t up/down votes supposed to take care of most of this stuff with organic visibility.

Hey Prime,

This is just an appreciation comment for you, not related to the video.

I found you and started watching you a few months back. Many of your ideas and thoughts resonate with me. You relief many of my doubts about webdev and programming in general that I have always had but not always sure of. It’s reassuring to have a proven track record engineer saying my way of doing things are also his way of doing things!

Now, I have more trust in my logical thinking and critical thinking than ever.

Thanks for your hard work Prime, keep the channel going. Wish you all the luck!

I wouldn’t use htmx because I don’t like the idea of having the backend perform server-side rendering and because innerHTML and outerHTML is slow when compared to DOM diffing and patching. Though, I’d be willing to change my mind if I can get the best of both worlds.

Blaming lack of curiosity on work is really a cop-out. If someone is already as good as they say at web-dev, they will obviously have transferable skills. That’s like saying that you will stick to English in France even if the latter will get your farther.

Oh Reddit. I once asked the “r/typescript” what a “!” after a class property definition does and ended up in an hour-long discussion about “posting etiquette”.

Apparently posting code in that garbage text input of Reddit is “Better” than posting a link to a credible site that shows the same code with better formatting and highlighting.

You will never be a real markup language. You have no tags, you have no links, you have no protocol. You are javascript twisted by frameworks and virtual doms into a crude mockery of Berners-Lees perfection.

All the “support” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your developers are disgusted and ashamed of you, backend programmers laugh at your ghoulish codebases behind closed tabs.

Users are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed users to sniff out bad UX with incredible efficiency. Even react apps who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a user. Your slow load times are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk user to load your homepage, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he notices your tedious, animated UI.

🤘

Discord and Reddit mods… a never ending story of abuse of power. It’s astounding that a big amount of moderators are kids in their late teens/early 20s, as well as adults who suffer from hypersensitivity and apophenia. They read into things where there is nothing, and try to analyze every single smiley face as a possible “hidden passive aggressive” comment. They are incapable of dealing with these situations in a professional manner. Any sort of criticism or sarcasm no matter how small and insignificant… BAM permanent ban.

Time to go full on svelte 😉 its a SIGNAL LOL

Reddit is garbage. The userbase is toxic and the rules make no sense.

web is always changing unfortunately

its true us .Net guys love htmx

You really gotta pour one out for webdevs who genuinely and understandably feel like returning html from a server is a new way of thinking that you gotta wrap your mind around first. We created this awful awful world for them and we should be ashamed.

I am sticking by Svelte…. abandon React 2 years ago… I am interested in learning WASM, and having a nice integration between WASM and Svelte….with a Rust back end…..and yes no ORM…

There are two ways to design a software framework

1. Make it so complicated that there are no obvious flaws.
2. Make it so simple that there are no flaws.

The former is much easier and more profitable than the latter.

What pressing problem does htmx solve? Absolutely nothing.

This dude is docter disrespect in another life.

Cancel culture is genocide.

have you considered making a tutorial video/explanation of how to build with htmx and why it’s better?

what is this go templ thing and how does it work? looks like a “type safe” template that can get some nice lsp suggestions

I haven’t been on reddit’s frontpage in YEARS (since the times when donlad was banned etc). yet I visit it every week, because search results lead me there. I can’t stand leftard propaganda

That means Laravel’s Livewire is also on the chopping block, as it basically does the same thing.

I stopped going to r/webdev when someone made a personal project that was meant to be an interactive artistic experience and the entire thread, including a mod, were bashing the guy saying how horrible his site is and how he should rewrite it because he had the audacity to change the mouse cursor on his page. If you step out of line of design standards they lose their mind.

The hatred of self-promotion on reddit is so silly, as is the whoever got there first system of mod dictatorship. Everyone’s using fake names which means most of the self-promotion will go unnoticed, but if you’re honest and use your real name you get punished.

I would like to know what exactly the reddit mod’s reason for banning was. Was it self promotion? Was it spam? Was it that they just didn’t like it/him? Just listening to _htmx’s story isn’t exactly fair and unbiased either.

Its all about corporate job security (for money) to give the 95% something to do. Its a social club.
You other 5% basically are contractors or entrepreneurs or principal engineers.

maybe people in r/webdev don’t want OVERREACT, they like to react well.

Do you honestly never feel like HATEOAS is overly prescriptive? It was designed for a document oriented web, and within that lane and close to it, its an obvious win. But, I was there when we invented SPAs, and we didn’t do it for no reason. Should react always be the opening position? Hell no. But having a separate client and server with a well defined contract between them, is nothing to scoff at.

Russinovich didn’t reveal truth. He just sat in his ivory tower and stroked his metaphorical beard and developed a formalism, that suffers the fate of most abstractions.

Imagine using Web Components and HTMX at the same time!

Suggested htmx to our lead dev at work and he immediately put it in the headers for our tools after reading a bit from the website. Sold it to the team as “AJAX, but easier/faster”.

Reddit is the intellectual garbage can of the internet

hi, I am PERN dev(postgres). I want to get out of it. I make websites for client in my poor country. I need safe bet. Can anybody suggest something.? pls

Reddit is crazy. You can be permanently banned for asking a beginner question because you didnt know the coreect terminology.

lol, the time of changing React into PHP’s position is came ; )

I am just burned out. It started as so much fun. I loved those colors being set in screen, those animations, sliders and creating something powerful. I learned PERN(postgres). I soon as I seems to be good at it. There is new framework in our locality creating new Buzz. Next.js. Will it ever stop? Like serioulsy ? What should I learn? Next or become better at PERN ? can anybody help me?

I agree. I would say htmx + go is some very sane and awsome little world not usually seen in web dev while it also totally just works ™. I say that even though I am generally unhappy with go having GC, but again… still….

i don’t understand how we are still talking about html and css, hate javascript always have, webassembly should have resolved this …

Reddit mods are just built different

I like this short form content

here comes the rise of htmy

reddit is creepy

I really don’t like ORM’s. I’ve felt like that’s an unpopular opinion, but I honestly just never understood why.

I suppose it’s useful if you’re connecting to multiple different types of databases with different sql syntax that the ORM does for you behind the scenes. But I rarely do that, it’s either just MSSQL or Postgres for me at work and they are similar enough that just learning the basic syntax of each has served me far better than learning an ORM that I might or might not be able to use on a project.

/u/716green isn’t wrong, but his post is hilariously myopic. HTML feels more tedious? I mean, what? This guy who lists the myriad of domains of knowledge he has to juggle to do web dev, but having a server spit out some HTML in place instead of JSON you have to manage and parse and all on the frontend is easier????

Reddit is like the inverse-4chan – It’s just as cancerous, just instead of nazi shit, it’s egotistical douchebaggery.

I cannot for heaven sake, understand…why oh why people are so stuck to React. There are frameworks which are 10x more fun and productive than this old hag…Vue3, Svelte, etc.
People are still discussing how to use “useEffect”…isn’t that alone a sign of how bad things are. useCallback….useMemo…what the…???
Ditch it, move on already.

This is why I will never be a web dev, The web stack is absolutely broken imo, you can’t be expected to be good at it when everything is changing everyday, I like C because if you learned C 10 years ago, it’s almost the same language, the way you are coding is still very idiomatic, and you can read code from other people and immediately get it. There is also the benefit of being able to immediately spot inefficient or incorrect code, like I know this might seems crazy for web people but I can actually just look at some code, and immediately know if it’s correct, performant, and idiomatic. That doesn’t mean that change is not good, like I’m currently learning Zig, and getting more familiar with Ocaml, so there is a fine line between changing things all the time, and never learning anything new. But in the web world it seems like everyday there you are just becoming more and more useless if you don’t invest time in learning the new how thing without even being sure that you are going to use it, I really feel bad for web people it must really be a pain to work in the web.

This is going to sound pessimistic, but we’ll see what kind of ecosystem they build around HTMX. There’s already Alpine and Hyperscript. There will likely be a facade for common hx-attribute combinations and stuff like that. Even worse, maybe there will be a new ecosystem in every backend tech stack.

self promotional stuff is pretty much always against the rules. this post was low effort cringe. i get it Rust people and HTMX people are like Arch users and cant stfu about themselves

i swear htmx sucking is premium on this channel.

Time to troll and link this video in that sub.

/r/frontend is trash as well.

I got banned from Reddit AskReddit for saying, and I quote, “It is illegal to do crime.”

Ah but what if the mod is a fan of htmx and knew this would make it blow up even more. That old calculated drama.

htmx is like fucking your sister with no protection but not looking in her eyes

Surreal (gnat/Surreal) is a great replacement for jquery.

I hope that comment is satire because HTMX is the dogs bollocks

Do you remember when React 1st came out while JavaScript didn’t have classes? They made their own class system, then adapted to the JavaScript classes when they came out, then told everybody to use functional components only with “hooks”. That all happened at the same time that async/await was being added. The 2010s were pretty dynamic.

Ban was deserved. Reddit generally disallows pure commercial self-promotion. It’s considered rude and spam content.

Reddit is pretty dumb but HTMX is just bleh

HTMX isn’t a “new way to think about web dev” … its the ORIGINAL way to think about web dev

reddit – the place where people meet to show off hot gas

Never been a fan of HTMX to be honest

Proudly sponsored by HTMX (™Carson Gross).
Let’s go MSU !!!!!!!!!! I believe!!

I´m a react dev and I want to get out of it, any advice on what should I learn?

I quit using Reddit after the API debacle and I couldn’t use Apollo anymore. Deleted my account and never looked back. Rest in many pieces, Reddit.

How did you do the templ func() file??

Learning new things: awesome. Going through stacks faster than you change underwear because it’s the latest trend: horrific. Suppressing discussion about new tools build on older principles because it goes against your flavor of the week: shut up, if you’re not wrong now you will be in 5 years, so stop worrying about it.

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”

I think they are fighting htmx now.

I’m speaking of behalf of relatively new web devs (no degree and less than 2 years since I started learning). I have thought of this personally a lot lately. There’s SO MUCH SHIT(!!) you need to keep inside your brain if you are a modern web developer. Especially full-stack with the modern next.js eco-system with Prisma, tRPC etcetera taking over slowly. It’s not even that long ago that TypeScript became a must, and that’s also a lot if you are relatively new to programming. And shit just keeps… expanding… new paradigms and best practices for everything, new CSS features, new libraries and configs you got to keep ahead of. It’s just not very easy if you are trying to live a life with non-coding hobbies and interests as well.

HTMX coming in and waving, saying “hey guys, what’s up, please familiarize yourself with me, because I’m a new hot thing” from the sideline has definitely made ME say ‘nope’ and just ignore it. I’m trying my best to keep my head above waters here.

Have you looked what ppl use Reddit? I would not like to be found dead there.

i hate devs, who like to overcomplicate everything, because not complicated things are not “fun” to them.
and their projects become a slow , messy, big pile of shhhhhtuff stitched together.

People on this HTMX train need to fucking shut up

Reddit is a disaster of a platform. It had potential, but was mismanaged.

The problem is that over time people with no real life ambition or ability to execute on their goals eventually worm their way into being subreddit mods, so they can feel some semblance of importance. They then let it go to their head and ban everything they’re not personally interested in. They reshape public, general purpose,subreddits to be their own fiefdoms.

So like we have a web dev subreddit, but you can only talk about tools that the mods think are interesting. Happens with country, state, and city subreddits as well. It’s not a place for people from that place to talk about what interests them. It’s there for the mods’ interest.

Wanna talk about a web dev tool that web dev mods aren’t interested in? I guess it’s time to make your own empty subreddit for it and talk to yourself about it. This is why Twitter is much better.

Who is still using Reddit after their API BS? Leave the neckbeards behind.

Whole lotta storm in a teacup. I thought htmx as a topic was banned, which would be very bad, but it was just some (probably asshole) guy’s account for what was most likely a troll post.

He should just put more time into his work instead of shitposting on a subreddit. Rich Harris said React sucks years ago, but he also created his own idea of a framework (Svelte), and over time it has gained a lot of popularity.

To be fair the post was pretty low effort and in clear violation of multiple of the /r/webdev posting guidelines. Maybe permaban is a bit harsh but I don’t think being a representative of a popular framework should give them any special privileges either.

The problem with htmx, from a purist perspective, is that you’re “injecting” behaviour into markup. Markup should be clear and have semantic meaning. Ideally, it should “work” without JS at all. Ofc, when you need scripted behaviour, keep it in JS file and let the markup download first. Provide as much content as you can, before resorting to scripting. Web apps are, of course a different beasts from websites.

reddit’s dictators make the site unbearable

There is a complexity masturbation that happens with many programmers. We just love the feeling of having a strong command of something complicated, knowing the ins and outs, the quirks and edges. All these things, achieved by deep focus, trial and error, becomes such a protected effort that the simplicity and power of HTMX is almost seen as insulting to them.

There is certainly a time and place in a hypermedia focused app to lean on a framework for an island of interactivity, but it’s rarer than you think. That should be celebrated imo.

THE VIDEO WE WERE ALL WAITING FOR

imagine being so flooded with complexity that when a simple tool comes you cant use it

HTMX allows piecemeal evolution of an existing website into a modern one. All the other practical approaches require a complete re-architect, retooling, and re-implementation in a new language. All those are very expensive, and very risky. HTMX is solid.

who the hell still uses reddit

htmx is great for backend dev, mas boring for frontend dev

3:25 aaaand that’s why im not a web dev lmao

fortunately C doesn’t change much so im good to go

cause r/webdev think the web dev is a frontend development

Its the commies in HR. I said it, how you like them now?

Everytime I feel like I’ll get into htmx one day. Didn’t happen yet, but I don’t do webdev that often so yeah.

I might need to finally take a look at it in my free time and maybe Go.

As far as I know, a professional carpenter is a master of like 15 different types of tools. Each one of those tools are used for a specific purpose. They don’t use a hammer to drill a screw, and they wouldn’t use a hand saw to drive a nail. One craftsman isn’t called a “miter saw carpenter” while another is specifically a “jigsaw carpenter”. They are just “carpenters”, and a carpenter might use 5 different tools for the same job. A “miter saw carpenter” doesn’t need to contract a “hammer carpenter” whenever he’s done sawing the boards. The same carpenter can use lots of different tools, and a carpenter uses the best tool for the job. But in the software world, we are defined by the tools we use. We are “React Devs” or “Angular Devs” or “PHP Devs” or whatever. And I think this is because we get so attached to a particular tool that EVERYTHING BECOMES A NAIL for that tool. So then we start adding drill bits to our saw blades so that “saw carpenters” can also do work that only a qualified “screw-driver carpenter” should do. Because apparently no single person can build a table by himself.

how do you handle network errors in htmx? like 404 or similar?

Soy frontend devs vs Jigachad Go/Rust/PHP Swole + 80MX

Reddit is so trash due to random mods

you either die a hero or live to become the villain

I’m using rust as a secondary language to feel good about myself i’m not forcing myself to be the best in it. I’m just enjoying the process of slow learning process.
but on the other hand i’m also using typescript on my job so rust works as stress reliever. Javascript eco system won’t even give you time to get better at basics

Shadow ban 😂, htmx is cool

HTMX is a meme, if you fail to see this you might be better off developing your web in PHP.

What’s crazy to me about that guy not learning HTMX because he “didn’t have time” or whatever is that you can read all of HTMX’s documentation in about 3 hours. It’s not complicated.

I think people are scared of sending HTML from the backend.

Just yesterday I posted a Salary Sharing Thread on the romanian programming subreddit, because there are many questions regarding salaries, and to the surprise of no one it was deleted. Powertrip.

100% agree. It is such a nice little tool to bring some web elements alive with minimal work.

React has reached “nobody is ever fired for choosing…” status, whereas I’ve often gotten dirty looks for talking about HTMX and the need to cut down on the dependencies and layers of indirection.

As wasteful as it is, building React behemoths with a gorillion dependencies and every new fad for styling, data fetching or state management all at the same time is the winning strategy for most professional developers. It’s all about racking up those billable hours.

THE NAME…is 4InchesOfFuryGen

I don’t know why some devs think they need to learn any new thing, you can keep using the same thing and doing the same job.

You can also pick what actually interest you, imagine being able to decide by your own

quitting reddit was one of the best things I’ve done for my mental health

#NOSTR fixes that.

4:02 That’s the case

Web developers are screwed, no matter how you look at it.

It reminds me of that open letter that one of the reddit mods wrote that said something to the effect of “Fair discussion can only occur if we ban opposing viewpoints.”

Reddit mods are simply the cousins of Discord mods.

I don’t like HTML for the same reasonas 716green

Htmx haters are frontend/backend devs who are afraid of becoming full stack devs 😅

hahaha, what a dumbass comment. the only constant in our industry is change. the guy just completely missed it. it is pointless to talk about how nice horses are. once railways came up, the time for horses was gone.

I can’t imagine building anything serious with HTMX 🙂

Gotta keep HTMX off the open internet so chatgippity has no sources to generate it from… keep it locked away for true devs

Emporors old clothes.

fuck javascript

5th

most HTMX-haters are js-framework-kiddies

Every other commenter after me is a react andy

FIRST MOTHERFUCKERS!