“I finally think it’s reached it’s final stage.”

That’s a super hard hitting quote from hJune, It seems we truly don’t see happiness until it’s gone. In my playtime from 2014 up until today, my focus has always been on the relationships, even though I never used the AK or was a competitive player in nature, I enjoyed the community it brought with the entertainment and drama from the clans who played. It really gave life to the community. I feel a lot of players miss that community for something to obsess over. I really hope Rust can revive a cause like that again to enjoy. Great reporting man, glad to see you back in action!

Game should be free tbh with how garbage it is, and the admins should just get fired since they do nothing anyways

i just think that the tech tree system needs to be removed. bring back researching things and that is all. also slow down progression massively… the old XP system was amazing at doing this. it ensured that nobody regardless of group size had any explosives for at least 2 days….

Go to some other corner and cry. Rust was crazy toxic.

tbh its to easy now and thats the end of the story

1millionth offline by a giant group. I’m done with rust

Since Twitch Streamers picked on this game… everything changed to worse

1:08 pls original video

*СОРЕ*

rust should just let server owners chose new recoil or old recoil thoughts???

1440x1080p was the shit mane

Dude you just miss those times, that’s what we call nostalgia..

they should js add back hardcore mode and make it have old recoil smaller team ui and old map

bro thought he cooked 💀

From Rust being a lifestyle, to now being a 2 week faze it will always have a special place in my heart as a player.🥲

i miss the days of being able to chase a group through the trees solo and take them down becuase you just have recoil skills like that

gosh i miss old rust so much

this dude talking sh1t witch he dont even understand 😀

recoil change / increased team limti / tech tree ruined rust
earlier we didnt had train tunnels , labs, quick respawns like we do now soo tech tree was a decent addition to the game but after the introduction of these new scrap farming machines tech tree is kindda pointless

Only things i dont like are minis, scraps, oilrigs and the techtree on wb. Oilrigs to easy to get high tier loot, minis or scraps avoiding PvP, same case on the wb techtrees. Before that u were so Happy to find a garage door and now, just gather scrap and learn it

I miss old rust i remenber when the cargo ship came out my leggs shakeing getting guns hard nowdays game so simple

3-4 oil rig runs and you are set for wipe cargo ship just gets run by cheaters and big groups only one underwater labs it’s too easy in general need more monuments and pvp on the actual map not just buying a boat and holding a dock for 4 hours to get all your loot

Now the game takes zero skill I remember when you use to be able to consistently slap bigger groups just by using skill now even role players can out spray you and the cheating is so much worse now it used to be people just using scripts which wasn’t even bad if you had good spray now people go straight to esp

Changing blueprint system to tech tree really changed the excitement of finding a garage door. Just scrap now

I miss 2018 rust.

personally i stopped playing rust when recoil change happened because personally it ruined the game for me as i was enjoying learning the game(500h) and was willing to spend thousnads of hours to get gud now after that i moved onto mordhau just because it gave me that same feeling (almost) rust used to and now I’m just waiting for next melee slasher to come out hoping that feeling stays alive in a game. no other game has given quite the same feeling since i first saw/played rust tho

I cant imagine I watched this video fully but.. First of you had no solid arguments when it comes to “What went wrong” type of questions.. Imo The new spray pattern, MLRS and Excavator ruined the game in a way that casual / noob players can wipe out big clans as solo.

I never really cared for the competetive scene of the game, I just liked old rust for being a silly simple survival game to play with your friends. It’s way too complicated and grindy now.

started playing during the old recoil day and racked up about 2.6k hours. Gotta say the game has definitely changed to something else but I try to stay optimistic and enjoy the new era. i Can’t see myself putting the game down for a while even if newer changes aren’t great or necessary.

2016 rust <3

I could run rust on my PC in 2020
I know its 4 years ago but has that much been added that it cant run anymore even on Potato

and yet since 2021 the game has been booming in popularity… ever since november 2020 the game has been retaining more players then ever before as the heights of rust BEFORE then was march 2020 with 125k, july 2019 with 93k, december 2018 85k to the LOWEST since the start of 2021 being September 2021 at 106k which was more then most of the peaks beforehand (the only one being over that being march 2020). This has shown that no, rust has actually been increasing in popularity and for most players the updates being quite favorable.

😢 Old rust 🤤🤤

“with the recoil change, a lot of good players became average” lol they were not even good to begin with, recoil is just ONE of the aiming pillars and even with that any not rock bottom player knows that game sense talks A LOT more than monkey spraying a target at 120+ meters.

Majority of those so called “good” players that still cry to this day and claim to becoming average after the recoil change its almost certainly means they paid 20$ with mom’s credit card for a recoil script and that alone was all they had to maintain a competitive edge against the legit ones that were still on the learning curve period.

When I was still new to rust and hop on UKN to learn guns mechanics I could not count the amount of times I found players with laser perfect sprays that could triple tap me at 128m range but on scrims would still lose 90% of the trades against me because of their cockroach reflexes and boneless pizza awareness, aint no way a legit player that puts thousands of hours on practicing don’t develop a slightly bit of those skills alongside with the recoil. At some point I learned the recoil and enjoyed it while it lasted and after the update personally to this day I don’t see myself losing more gunfights compared to before and I strongly believe it is not just me, every single legit pvp chad is still killing it after the recoil change.

I genuinely wish Rust had a different version where it had the very old version like the one Uberhaxornova played a long time ago, How i would play the heck out of that

If you think the zero-skill aim is a problem for pc rust, try playing console rust where 80% of people are using zen (scripts). The official servers have zero moderation to get rid of them and anyone who isn’t scripting like me and my duo, have to be 10x smarter or better than anybody to kill them. This isn’t even factoring in larger groups that plague servers offlining everyone indiscriminately.

Playing Rust, there is no longer “Tiers” that players move through – prim for a bit fighting like a savage (really the only time we use melee unfortunately), then you hit tier 2 and you have a whole new world of tactics and strategies you can use to go to war and environmental elements to have fun with, and then you hit t3 and you are just on a completely different level – none of that progression happens anymore. The meta exists because devs allow it – you just get to Tier 3 endgame content in the first hour after wipe. Rage for a day and a half and then not play at all complaining that the “servers dead.” I dont like getting to Endgame content in a videogame when theres so much meat you just SPRINT through to get Tier 3. Devs should time-lock tier 2 and tier 3 monuments, making them completely inhospitable with rads and stronger scientists’ hp/dmg values, then scale it back to normal as hours/rust days pass on the server. Otherwise, lets be real – this game is just a sandbox arena shooter, except you’re required to forage and slave away just to get your loadout. F*cking stupid.

Counterstrike with waiting period to get guns.

i realy felt that, everything u said is true and its sad because first rig was everytime fighhting 100 people now u are glad to see one group and some grubs to come, old days when affinity, moose and vital was on top were nice

For some reason people always talk about how the game was “originally” aimed at competitive players with the recoil patterns. But originally the game had random recoil, then aimcone, and then it finally went to patterns. It was always aimed toward casual players. The only one that wasn’t aimed toward casuals was the patterns. Thats why most people who have been playing since legacy or early new rust quit at that time.

yk when I started rust I was bad af with guns since it was hard af, but after playing for some times and practising my aim and seeing it becomes better… I was feeling accomplished like “finally I have done it” but than some random dude comes up and kills me and that pushed me to get better at the game. Now days I cant get that feeling anymore, everything becomes pointed on luck no need any skill only need some gamesense and luck and that’s it. oh And I remember the times that me and my bois go to oil rig with bows and pumps to get weapons since it was the easiest way to get good guns and some good loot. but now its does not matter who goes to oil first anymore since all you gotta do is farm scrap and unlock it from workbench. nowadays having playtime over 1k does not matter since there is no recoil.

We need the option for New recoil and old recoil patterns in Servers I think that would revive rust A LOT

I really think that rust should have added a matchmaking system instead of removing recoil.

those werent good times for average player. everyone had either macros or sweated out thousands of hours in the game making this game unenjoyable for anyone who has life. Rust did a good choiceletting new people breath air and if someone considers himself “good at Rust” then they will still overpower casuals just not in the overwhelming way like before.

I like to play competive but I also just enjoy game with not insane skill needed

The recoil change didn’t make everyone average it was the Aimcone. Gamesense, aiming, and whats left of recoil already create a big enough skill gap. Aimcone might just be the dumbest mechanic in the game.

I like rust, I just can’t play it… or wont play it might be a better term, 30 min load times are too much so I am gonna just say I cant play it.

It’s a bunch of bullshit, the old recoil system could be circumvented with scripts, and the old one too, it’s not about skill, it’s about cheating.
In csgo recoil is not as important as accuracy and gamesense since you can use the awp for 1 shot kills or ak headshots. I think rust should have more of that, make it so it’s more important who shoots first than who can control the recoil better. Basically make recoil very small, less important, make shots kill way faster, and then you have a more competitive, fair shooter that gives less power to scripters.

Also, in csgo, you can kill 5 people on your own if your accuracy and gamesense is better, it’s more important who shoots first, bullets do way more damage than rust. So yes you can have a competitive game where if you’re good you can kill many people by yourself, and at the same time have more accurate guns with less recoil.
My main problem is that people used to have scripts even back in the day when recoil was hard, so it didn’t matter because people were scripting to circumvent their lack of skills.

Minecraft has a crazy comp scene just hard to get into lol (not talking about just bedwars)

I would rather the game not change at a certain. Point

I totally agree with you, the worst update was the recoil update. I was spending hundreds of hours trying to improve my aim. Now I just play and struggle to make plays because I just get out nummberd. All my friends quitted Rust, so I have been playing solo for like 3 years…

I think they could fix most of the issues by simply adding a feature for servers to switch from old recoil to the current one and add more diversity for each biomes, like waterfalls, actual rivers, actual Mountains etc, cause it looks too much similar and limits the survival aspect.

Rust has been around since 2013. It went from a browser to what it is now and everything in between. And out of all the rust updates, what you chose to focus on was the recoil change?? Lmao dude I’m sorry but that’s not what killed rust… vets have been leaving the game for a long time before that

2016 was peak rust. Graphics were pleasant, building was simple and still had cool things you could do like wall stack, and recoil was random so you weren’t getting beamed from 200M+ away

Old and pvp rust sucks, dissapeared cause deserve it

i miss old rust so badly

rust has become a tweakers game

u forgot about the countless amount of cheaters

For me with new recoil play solo become harder than old time when your solo you cant fight those 10 16 man cuz all got a good aim now

i like rust i have 500 hours

i like rust

Dunno why you dont like it, I personally love it.

Anyone know the name of the song at the start of the video? I cant for the life of me remember it.

I came back to rust to see all the new goodies, it’s still fun. It’s just not the same game. In about a month back I’ve found creeping slow, moving smart and staying barefoot, seems to be the determining factor. See them first, and it only takes a rev to snoball. The fight prep is more important than the fight, thats not how it used to be. Just an observation from an old school solo who has been gone a few years.

I have around 9k hours and 3k ppl are almost playing like me cuz there is no recoil any more

Totaly disagree with you , Playing since 2013 the game have never been so good that now in every aspect , just miss the old scream lol

In old rust you could actually go up against 4-6 man groups as a solo if you had good recoil control and gamesense. Now the gameplay is like a hollow shell of what it used to be. REVERT RECOIL. All good things must come to an end but Rust could be a chart-topper if they just brought back old recoil and reverted HDRP. No other game has a competitive recoil system like rust did. It has the potential to be a really unique game again if the devs were competent and not focused on DLC money grabs.

song at 1:12?

Green dots need to go

Playercount says different man

Didn’t have a pc in those older days of rust, bought it on ps4 when it came out there and despised the sweaty kids spending all night waiting for my old ass to go to sleep.

Eventually elevated to pc gaming and now enjoy rust on a calm pve server that’s got the vanilla grind and just lets me do as I please. At 42 I don’t have time to focus exclusively playing this game. I got other things to do, so it’s nice to know my base will always be there the way I play regardless of how busy my day is.

where is the cheater reference LmAo

“Competitive” Rust makes pretty much no sense considering there’s no such thing as a win condition except for whatever you set for yourself. Everyone loses everything at the end of the wipe, always. Nobody “wins.”

This hyper competitive mindset where so many gamers are solely focused on winning or the pipe dream of making a career out of playing video games is a stain on the community as a whole in my opinion. Making the game fun is the priority, not appealing to the minority of “influencers” who spent 1000 hours making their spray control as good as a script.

You simply can’t compare Rust to that list of games you mentioned because those games have clearly defined win and loss states, and are short term matches, not a multi-week long survival adventure game where the map is nuked at the end. Battle Royales are a pretty bad type of game for a competitive environment as well.

If you’re a small group concerned with getting mopped by clans, play on trios server or something. The solution to this problem already exists.

The majority of your complaints are solved by you picking a server more in line with your preferences.

A lot of players who are content creators I feel like devoted so much to rust and it was their only game that they don’t know how to move away from it. Like frost used to be in a constant group and almost all of his old friends from before recoil change have now left the game. Hes stuck playing though, its hard to tell if hes enjoying it or if he doesn’t have anything better to go to.

You also have to consider that you OG’s might not like the game anymore (I say OG’s but I played since Legacy and have never enjoyed it more) but many other people do enjoy it more now because of the changes. Basically you old guys are prettt sad for crying over a game, either play and enjoy it or move on and grow up.

The game is almost exactly the same as it always was, just now it’s more inclusive.

Not going to lie… who gives a fuck about recoil.. there is no chance people started to play this game FOR the recoil… people need to just cry more, it’s recoil, such a retarded thing to care about.. pathetic even

Nah this game is not Rust anymore, shit is PUBG. Mini, scrappy, parachutes, submarines, tugboats, backpacks. 90%of the gunshots you hear nowadays is either from a fat zerg fight ot people on the roofs. Too many monuments (missile silo and artic base). Safezone recycling. The game is not That bad, but the way people play very pussy like nowadays on every server, vanilla and even modded, makes the game giga boring. This is not rust, this is a game pretending to be rust.

ngl man that picture of the ukn is kinda bullshit, just last week I saw ukn and EU PAT with over 1k players on

I’ve played Rust 2016-2019.
There wasn’t better fps survival game, never will be. RIP the good old days.

Right now still playing on force, but it’s just not the same, when you have to deal with laser beams all around, when solo.

Playing Rust between 2018-2020 was amazing, I always played solo and my biggest group I ever played with was 6 people, had legit the most fun I’ve ever had on a game, probably put in 2,400 hours in that time span, currently sitting at 2500….

servers with old recoil 🙂
Would be so nice

if you have the big of a problem with numbers play duo solo servers but to me sounds like a skill issue

Good players are just mad that the noobs or mid players have a chance to win them the Ak recoil is not very easy still its so ass to spray when standing

the truth is the ak being changed was the best thing to ever happen the recoil was way to hard, its a game not a full time job

I was never able to play pc rust in its golden age before 2022, but damn am I so glad I got to watch so many videos of it😢

2:15 It was definitely not a needed change! Also remove attack heli and team ui or at least make it like 6 max or less green dots! Me and many others of rust have spent thousands of hours learning the recoil for it to just be removed!

1:06

The meta is a big group. They update and cater to large groups constantly. Unless you find a group of random people in a discord to all type controlling together from your roof. You don’t have fun. Pathetic

Game is boring once you get to T3 weapons. Prim and tommy/sar fights are the funest part of any wipe, only the terminally online stay more than 2 days into a wipe nowadays anyway.

You have no idea what are you talking about lmao dude played for a year or two and he thinks hes some hot shit

I’m new to pc and play rust nightly (have about 40hrs) and what fun is a laser? I haven’t found it yet

the old sounds were amazing imo, maybe this just came with experience but i miss when i was actually *afraid* of the guns. now the guns sound, and even feel weak. very unfortunate 🙁

Having 1800 hours and most of that being from 2018-2020. I quit after the recoil update, I recently came back and brought a few friends who could never get into it before. We had a good time and now their hooked. There is tons of newer people playing the game as well. While the recoil change made the skill gap less in gun play, game sense and logic in fighting takes you a long way. I can still revo to ak and proceed to wipe teams by myself. I found that I encountered way too many recoil script users back in the day. Now it doesnt matter if you have a script I still might have a chance.

rust with video settings like that look like game form 2005

my top reasons as a 3k hour player from 2018
1. too much junk added (killed fps and lowered building space)
2. invasion of normies (death of culture)
3. babyproofing and handholding (team system, recoil, etc)

Rust was good when was simple, they floaded the game with useless updates and heavy graphics updates. that fuc…. up the game.

i dont like rust because the game is kind of boring

Peak rust for me at least was just after the underground train update, but before mlrs, that period of time was j7st insane while playing the game, the mobility you had around the map with that update, you could get into a gunfight above ground, use the underground to get better postioning, and pop up behind them, essentially was the best QOL update they had, was a steep downhill from there, i believe the train update came out first and then it was hdrp, which killed rust for a lot of players by dropping the fps on average by 25, meaning it was unplayable for people who were just scraping by at 50fps, i went from a solid 90fps to 60ish fps, and i still cant get the game past 70fps even if i am running potato graphics, another thing i would like to point out, i am 26 and my peak time was 5 years ago, and the average age group of players that i ran into were between 25-74 (yes i ran into a 70 yr old gamer and she was a blast to be around), im not saying i ran into kids in game, but they were few and far between, now everytime i jump on, i cant go 2 mins without running into a squeeker😂😂

you put words to my thoughts, i remember when i buyed the game for me and my friend we where only 2 but like u said, when u are good to the game u could kill everyone, i really loved the way u can think about destroy ur enemies when he is better than u at aiming, but the worst update for me was when they change the m249 recoil, i was so good with this, good video mate

I personally have moved to war thunder for whatever reason, I find that being in a dogfight with a good player or a situation with multiple enemies on you it is just as fun as rust was if not more fun because airplane 😊

i know a way to get old recoil if anyone wants to know

Rust was fun because of how hard and unforgiving it was. But ever since otv, its become too easy. Escape from tarkov has replaced rust for me because of how intense it is.

Minecraft does have a comp since in pvp

A comment a day keeps rust academy away 😉

i started early 2020 and i remember having so much fun i had a friend group we all laughed and just had a great time idk if its cause we didnt take the game seriously cause we all new but it was fun, the game felt different, now its just repetitive and its annoying cause i did spend a lot of time training my recoil and got good and now i feel like i have no more skill cause the giant groups i was able to kill became something i cant even push the game just feels different now in a bad way but i keep playing maybe it’ll get better but I’ve now come to except that the game is change
rust in 2020-2021 was super fun and different to me now its just a regular game

I can truly say, rust has died

I just like going basic and roleplaying with new jimmies. :- )

Play hardcore or cry more

there will be one point where playing as a solo will no longer be possible since every time they add anything great for a solo player it gives groups huge advantages and its getting there very soon sadly

2:98 “Players have left Rust for something else”
There is no something else.

hey atleast the vets finally explored the great outdoors for once- Joke btw dont cancel me

Did u just say there were no 10by10 bases in Rust in 2016? When i started playing tc’s had no upkeep

My good old days were before oil rid my guy lol I got 13k hours played in all the major clans and 2016 xp system was the best by far #FTPONTOP

Rust ist better than it ever was. Stop crying about old systems.

i like Rust a shitload more now than before. only keeps getting better the more they add. the game is 1000000x more enjoyable when you don’t only care about the pvp meta.

I remember playing this game till 7am but now i cant play it for more than 2h like even cs became more fun than this game. I know the changes are good but old rust just felt so much better and was so fun playing it

I think its ass because of the offline meta “im a worse player so im going to raid you when you get off” instead of getting better and trying to fight

bro is crying and shitting on a 10yo game

You grew up. You got bored of games and it was harder to keep your interest despite the wealth of extra content

Rust is fun and great survivor game with every way..graphics,animations,actions..but progress system must be changed must be harder..with 1 day you can get tier 3..its easy..not hard..you cannot find good games like rust..

As a relative noob to Rust (450 hours), the large teams are definitely the worst part of Rust. IMO teams should be limited to 4-6. Problem is how to enforce it. The big zergs will even pay people to farm for them and there is not really a way to prevent that. I also think the BP system could be tweaked. Maybe eliminate researching of guns altogether so you have to tech tree them and it is not just first group to take oil conquers all. I still really enjoy the game and my favorite part of the game is farming, building, electrical, and automation. I have no point of reference though because I never played the game before the tech tree and current recoil system. The community is still pretty decent on most servers, always a few douches, but also wholesome interactions. I love the game.

you ever watch those like 10k hour players hitting insane shots and it makes your monkey brain tingle, that is the worst part just the entire excitement of taking down 3 dudes with an ak and snowballing it doesn’t have the same weight to it anymore

Please fix the gunplay…it needs a skillcap again…that’s why everyone got addicted to this game. People came online to get better. Now every player is worth the same and you only win with large groups. Learnable recoils are key, whether you want to hear it or not.

Old rust had a community. Most of that was driven out and replaced by children.

lol i remember back in the day we would shit talk all the clans on server and get them to online us and we won sometimes because we were better even though we were a trio

lol remember “jump check”

Honestly just build now I only run in a duo or trio I’ve given up on pvp I always get beamed and when I do kill someone 5 more people kill at once can never catch a break man 😢

Because recoil

man game evolves every single one does some dont cause developers are lazy but facepunch does a new update every single month and they changed the recoil cause u needed to play for 2k hours to be good and a lot of players didnt even start playing rust because of that and older players just liked rust bc of its pvp and everything

they need to re name the game to roof camping simulator

“I’m just a 19 year old kid with a good mic.” Liked and Subbed. Great video.

Its the oilrig, crusership and random crate spawns with chinoks that ruined the game. Doing oilrig to get 600 scrap, diesel, and aks, bolts, lr… What ever you name ruins the game. Back then airdrops and red keycard monuments were the way. And it was so much better.

if the only thing you do is pvp and raiding bases, controlling oil rig ofc the game will be lame in no time but there is so much more to do

true story. i was so proud being the only guy in the zerg who was allowed to carry AK since i was the only guy knowing how to play it. i almost cried when rust changed to modern warfare.. i still play, but the adrenalin rush is gone..

u r just getting old, jesus christ. There are tons of new kid players

yea we do you bet it brotha

yea thats what we do lol

i miss them old days lol

so do i but its dead and bad

and that’s why I play tarkov now lmao

bro said tacularr is a small up and coming youtuber but he has 200k while u have 6k

Wait why did you make an entire new channel zprotz? I knew the voice immediately even though I haven’t seen your videos hit my home page in 6 months. Cheers brother good to see you hitting the algo

snooze fest

Gave ya a dislike. Ya earned it.

i stopped playing this game because all you do is hoard items, this game should be called hoarders.

Sad how the game changed for hyper casuals who hate video games but have nothing else to do. They all just want a mindless hurrduur farming sim.

Ive quit multiplayer and competitive games last year because this is just modern gaming in general. I only play indies now or go back to timeless games like terraria or risk of rain here and there with my brother.

I was typically good at games naturally. Rust was the one game I got absolutely SHIT on as a new player in 2020. Getting shit and realizing the skill gap the game provided… that’s what made me fall in love with the game. Rust will always live on and continue to grow… but it is past the golden age. 2021 Rust will forever live in my heart 😌

I would like to comeback to xp system rust with op p2 and farming being Real cuz u have to use metal Pick not some fancy jackhammer so its not that easy and fast to get gear and shit

facepunch has a horrible problem of ‘fixing’ things that don’t need to be fixed, or just getting a ridiculous amount of skins and cosmetics to fill their coffers with.

I feel it 100%

How does this video feel like it both has a poor script and it and has no script?

I used to play A LOT of Rust back in 2013-2014 (legacy) and it definitely wasn’t “competitive” or whatever you’d call it.
I DESPISED this shift in game direction, it made me stop playing. I’m SO HAPPY I can casually enjoy this game again.

Who said that I don’t like anymore?

The thing is old recoil had its own problems. You’re saying that if you had good recoil you could beat multiple people basically quality>quantity. But old recoil system had actual tryhards who trains on recoil servers all day long 24/7 and they were dominating the game scene. Rust shouldn’t be a game that needs “skill grinding” in my opinion. And old system had a lot of weak sides that makes cheating a lot more easier. If we go back to your argument that “quality > quantity” you should never forget that most of the Rust players have thousands of hours. So more is the quantity most likely to have a talented player on that team too. I’m saying all of these as a old Rust player that trained hundreds of hours in Rust recoil servers. New recoil system gave new players a chance to participate in Rust. Rust was never a casual game like Valorant or League of Legends or CS:GO. Aiming faster or memorizing recoil pattern will not save you or your items on many scenerios. Its more likely a strategy based mind game. Which requires a lot of “Gamesense” as you propably know. Rust is still on top 10 on Steam for last 10 years. There is no such a thing called “Why you don’t like Rust anymore”. I actually don’t like this context just like what happened with Minecraft. There is no game that will entertain you forever for 10s of years. It actually depends how you get to experience it. As a 5000 hours in 7 years of Rust I never stopped enjoying the game. Every month brought new excitements which I mostly liked including the new recoil system. Even though I lost all of my progress on recoil training It made me happy that new players are going to join the Rust Community and the game will not die for a while. And I can easily can say that nothing much changed how I progress in the game. Its still experience mostly the same scenerio when I deal with bigger groups. There is no 1 talented player vs 10 non talented player scenerio happening usually. So as a gamers we should take a break from dopamine and try to enjoy what we have.

covid rust hit dif

In my opinion the best era was 2015-2016, Since then there were many changes, some good some bad but now they’re adding too much stupid stuff like cars, helicopters, anti air rockets, MLRS, Cameras with a real phone app, Shotgun and turrets, Etc’….
This game was always horrible for solos and they just made it better for groups, Now there’s a trend of gamers playing RP and survival games like Rust and GTA V so that’s why they’re adding all the complicated items, Electricity, And gambling and bs virtual skins for the kids.

Also original Rust is still the scariest game I’ve ever played, The sounds were great, Footsteps, Burning fire, Door opening and closing, People walking around your shack or house at night, Great atmosphere and background music which they removed ofc.

Absolutely agree, i came from csgo, i absolutely grinded recoil control just because i enjoyed it, i dont like current casual BS, OTV ruined rust, change my mind.

all im saying is rust is still growing

Idk if im delusional or not but I feel like they still could change the recoil sometime soon

I think having different servers for different eras of rust will be the best

I remember legacy rust! That was the gold time for me

i’m sorry but doing warmup training and learning the pattern of every recoil to get an advantage to the average player was way too op and so unfun to do that i’m glad they changed it

the real problem is that with doing this change, they hoped that players would focus on strategies decisions instead of blindly using their muscle memory but their game is not about strategy at all, its about having the most optimized base placement, and the most optimized farming strategy through sheer luck

all of my games are like this : -wipe fresh, everyone destroy everyone with bow and arrow, game is fun, damage are balanced
-a random guy suddenly has a mp5 30 minute in
-kill everyone
-mp5 guy get killed, someone pick it up and redo the whole process
-half of the server now have to restart because one guy got lucky
-the rest are placing their bases
-80% of the best bases placement are done
-half of them use youtube guides to make the most optimised base, literally unraidable
-if you are in the unfortunate group there’s no coming back from this, you either place your base on a shitty land and will never catchup in time or you brute force your way between two huge bases knowing that tomorrow your base will be gone
-at one point you eventually leave the server because its impossible to gather resources in peace
-if you’re with the huge bases you will get bored too because there’s no fresh blood coming in, you either fight someone at the endgame (so a long and tedious fight) or a newbie with a stone and a torch
-now 100% of the players don’t have fun and leave

the only good thing new rust does are the side mission with the cards and stuff, the rest is horribly not well designed

legacy was way simpler

What they need to do is release a Old School Rust. Like Old School Runescape. Roll the updates back to around before the recoil change and let servers choose to be New School or Old School. So you are either playing old recoil with no recent updates, no new building skins, no tug boat, etc. Or you are playing new school and getting the fresh DLC comsetic jangling keys in front of you content drip that every game seems to need. Also I would personally roll old school to before the update before the minicopter as I think thats when rust was at its peak sociobility, and peak simple but effective game design.

the blatant nudity at the start is so funny

Sometimes I watch old Ramsey videos. Man, those were the days…

Games dont last forever…
Either the game changes or YOU change.

if you don’t want rust can you give it to me acoount i play rust from 2016 😾💔

I Think now is way better then it was ever

What’s the song name at 1:08?

What is the song you used in the intro when hjune starts to speak

The beginning gave me depression

rust just isnt competitive without recoil, most rust players I know before recoil change left and played better comp games. Such as Valorant, Cs2, Apex, Cod, Or even Fortnite.

The issue i have with the game is that i paid for the game that used to be completely something else like said you could duo zerg if you play well now they just nerf every advantaged you had against them, no more 1 shot one kill if you hit eye of the guy with bolt, spears got nerfed killing someone 400m away is impossible which completely killed my competition with friend to get headshot kill on someone super faraway he got kill 417m and my record was 398m and now it’s impossible to beat that cuz people don’t render on that distance. Game feels like it’s just endless grind and it’s not perfect game for skilled duo, trio to play feels like it’s game only for zergs to play together.
Literally Game for no skill bambi 🙁
I Hope there will be more private servers in future that go back to devblog >100
I rly miss being able to destroy doors with spears/bows e.t.c same with little ammount of monuments, miss times where the hotspot was dome
I tried to comeback to rust couple times with my duo partner since 2018-2020 but game is dead to us, I have spent quite a bit playing solo on rustrpg server and I think this is the only cool thing that’s left in rust, servers that make their own pluggins and make something original

My friend and me just started playing Rust after the Christmas sale. I’m loving it but the guns are really simple to get kills with. Just point and click.

Rust player numbers are constantly increasing.
OGs just getting older.

game died for me when recoil got changed

Not sure why we cant have certain servers that play with old recoil. Have some servers use old and have some use new so we have the option.

theres competitive gamemodes in minecraft, minecraft factions was HUGE

As a solo player, I literally can’t contest any monuments. There will always be groups of 3 or 4+ players which will shit on me with the new recoil update. Fuck that shit man

2016 rust was fun

well sucks to be tryhards. good for normal people who actually have a life 🙂

Did you make a new channel or is it renamed?

Think the real reason is that Rust peaked during COVID while everyone was forced to stay at home. Since covid, people have been gradually moving from games to more real life activities.

If you think you can learn game sense you might not have it. Its earned brother

Zprotz?

I still FULLY believe that the recoil change was the worst thing Facepunch ever did to the game. When I started playing I couldn’t use any of the guns besides the revolver, it was impossible. Then I started practicing, I’d go on UKN for an hour before I went on the actual servers. Doing this over months I got really good at recoil control, then I translated that into the actual game. I slowly progressed and actually became fairly good. Then BOOM they take it away and replace it with guns that don’t have recoil. It was a slap to the face.

The recoil change had to happen

My irl friends wouldn’t play the game because they all had a story of why they hate rust, and my rust group lost touch, when they changed recoil I offered my irl friends to try again and they had more fun and still play to this day. If they didn’t get back into the game I likely would have quit because solo rust is just not fun

I put in 6k and just dropped after the recoil changes. Yeah changing the recoil and making it more casually friendly is good in the short term but those players don’t stick around for the long haul

the fix most of this “clans have it easier” is just play on a limit team server?

I have been Watching this game for 7 years and I never played it not even once I swear to God and almost every single day since throughout the seven years, I have been watching rust videos( imagine it dies before I playe it ) lol

my favorite part of the game was the atmosphere. the old world generation and weather specifically

IIt used to be much more of a survival game and less forgiving, i miss that.

If you want recoil then go play console. Recoil is still insane….just be prepared for everyone to beam you because they’re using a cronus.

Don’t forget the old guys.
Still one of my favorite games.

You didn’t mention any word of multiple servers and mods.
Can forget those golden ones.

I started playing Rust this summer and I used to watch Rust content very frequently before that, Ramsey got me into it. Always wanted to play Rust. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy it, but I gotta say, the best part of Rust is when you are getting your base set up. From the first wood until the last auto turret set up. As soon as your base is fully built, the thrill is mostly gone. Then it becomes a repeated cycle of “lets do cargo” “lets do oil” “lets do bradley” etc. Barely 3-4 hours in wipe and you already have teams fully built with armored doors, sheet metal core and honey comb and compounded. It’s a bit sad, because it is way too easy to get the t3 tools stuff. If there was some way to extent this “exploration phase” “building base” phase, that would fix much. Because when you have everything you need, AK, Base and loot after day1 of wipe, no wonder you will have bored people constantly roof camping and griefing etc. Idk, thats my 2 cents.

0:25 u have a naked girl in inv, be carefull youtube might delete ur vid and give u a strike for nudity

Old rust had a trillion times better vibe, blueprint system was better, old FOV was a billion times better, old death animations were better, old landscape was way better. They really like changing stuff not needing to be changed, but unfortunately every cancerous game company thinks like that

I personally think that the tech tree should be time limited, for example you can only tech tree to tier three stuff at say day 3 or 4 of wipe. Where as going out to find guns to research is rewarded by being able to research them early, this would incentivise players to roam for guns early wipe to try and get an advantage over others creating more pvp and disincentivising just campaign a monument for scrap till they have enough to go straight to ak.

Ive played Rust since Legacy and Although I haven’t put in that many hours into it. I keep playing because when it first announced, And when I saw Frankie1080p playing this, I was so hyped, I enjoyed the good times on Legacy, I didn’t get much of a big chance to play Rust during its Beta, I rejoined in during the time Mini’s were added, And I kept playing because I loved the direction the game was going. Even with the Recoil rework (Which I personally do Enjoy) I still keep playing no matter what, the True enjoyment of playing rust was more than just the killing, It was the raiding, The building, Losing and then getting back up and claiming your revenge. Sure the change is debatable on whether its good or bad, But is it stopping you from playing? Not really, I’m not giving up and going to another game, Ive been with rust since the near beginning Just like I was with Team fortress 2, and Like both of them I love and devote myself to spending time and making new good times as I can.

I don’t because my pc cant keep up with all the updates lol

Got prim locked

slowing progression would help so much – remove drones and tech tree

Rust is a great example of a game that has become too big for its developers to handle.
FP has spend a decade doing whatever they want cause they know theres no consequences.
People will keep playing rust. They will keep making million view videos as free advertisement. They will keep buying skins.

rust pre hdrp & recoil update was too good

a 6-7 min vid of pure coping, lmao get fucked

the good old days

Recoil change was the ice breaker for me… All games evolve and Rust certainly has grown immensely in terms of new players. Pros and cons each way. It’s obvious though that Zergs have had their lives made alot easier after the last year of updates.

frogboot owner here, i miss rust. its been a while since i got on and i dont think i plan on getting back on.

0:25 uhh how did youtube let that slip?

I still have fun on rust

if its that bad , just quit and lose the nostalgia glasses.

World Of Warcraft pvp was very skillbased and knowledge about all opponents, their skills, cooldowns, stuns, and so on.
Groups depended on diversity, aka , healer, tsnk, dps.
Nowadays anyone can do anything slone. Sad.

I miss rust when it was a couple months old just after legacy, they were the vibes

i think u miss how things where when rust was like this 4 years ago i like the new mechanics it brings a more casual player base and less toxic comunity

The recoil update is what actually saved rust, no normal people are going to enjoy a game where they have to spend 1k hours to learn the spray perfectly. Shit was retarded, only kids with a bunch of time on their hands could be competitive, no brains were needed to outplay someone, no need for bolts because you could just spray 200m away

There is any game like RUST .
Already 2024 and still full 😂

Rust was more fun when there wasn’t millions of YouTube videos showing everyone all the metas of the game

Them getting rid of the old gun sounds, and that new pvp system that makes it so that I can’t tell if my character is injured and don’t have enough time to react, is what did it for me.

Dude talk about recoil. Everybody were scripting even content creator. So that change was the best for the game

Woah I recognize this voice from another YouTuber did he change his name?

What I miss most is the old map, it was really good, it’s mountainous and stony, whatever you want, now it’s ridiculous, I don’t like it at all.

Eh I like Rust more now. I stopped playing due to the recoil patterns, and I started playing again after the recoil was updated. I’m not going to waste my hours to feed loot to a no-lifer who wasted hours in an sim train server.

Has Rust seen growth since all the changes have been made? I might be reading the steam charts wrong or they could just be wrong, but from what Ive gathered the game has remained pretty much the same before and after recoil change with some increases and decreases in player count which all come back to relatively the same numbers, which leads me to ask the question why change it? It feels like they have divided the community further, made them upset and not left them much of an answer as to why they did it.
I would also enjoy for Facepunch (FP) to add a survey on the menu or server connection screen to gauge how the player base is currently feeling about the game. It wouldn’t have to surmount to any change but would be interesting to see how much of the overall player base are truly happy and content with the game and how much is just the vocal minority doing their thing. This would also be helpful for those who don’t care to go onto social media to share their thoughts.

im crying cuz i cant continue to destroy noobs with good old recoil, now they can learn its unfair LOOOOOOOOOOL

I played 500 hours of rust ALL SUMMER and i got really burned out and i did one thing, i took a break, i took like a 2-3 month break and now i have recently just hopped back on the game and i can confidently say that im having much more fun now. so if someone is feeling bored and burned out, just take a break, chill it out and play some other games

I have terrible aim, new recoil just makes everyone a Chad to me. Sucks to suck.

The recoil was stupid. No gun recoils in random x directions.

2:06 main is still pretty popping

Minecraft has much more competitive scene than rust lol.
It’s basically reskinned minecraft with guns to begin with.

i dont like the new update

Bro I played legacy rust for 1400 hours (mind you, that game existed from 2013-2016)
THAT SHIT WAS LIT

They should make a server category for OG Rust the way Fortnite has builds and no builds modes

zprotz daddy

Hmm, i still love the game. I understand people that for mad for recoil update. Other then that, the game has gotten better for me. I like it more and more every year.

I agree about teams it destroyed rust so much.. becouse solo players used to enjoy run in to team fights watch them kill each other event teamkilling becouse no dots and you coud find gun and enjoy play…. its gone … in most of cases so PVP changed for worse… Also BPS clans are first day rocketing and rest of server do revo… and main reason why is RUST now so bad is unlimited bags yeah i said unlimited 15 is not limite everyone runs back even if you kill team they back before you loot.. and meds are broken.. no hurt system is reason why people run like bots you shoot them and they just spam meds wait for teammate and full hp fight back… its sad part of game. they focused too much on teams…

The old PVP/recoil made the game super competitive for me and that was when I enjoyed it the most, I could actually see me slowly get better. Now PVP is just lifeless and every wipe feels the same. I would love to see them bring the old recoil back as a server option for server owners or just outright revert to the old recoil.

I still get rekt as a solo and joining a clan is impossible since they ask for 10000+ hours and be max 16 yo who can beam from 500m. The problem isn’t the meta but the gatekeeping some of you do and now you are angry that a people with 100 hours can compete if they can actually find a clan but as I said that is impossible unless you are a teenager having 12+ hours freetime a day.

I liked it the first day or two I played with my friend. Figuring out the mechanics and pvp was like heart pumping. After a few days the toxic in not even a funny way behavior, the offlining, the roof camping nakeds, disparity in skill gap between me and players with like 5k fucking hours or more made me super disheartened and bored. Running back to your base with 50 scrap and getting NVGd by some mouth breather in his moms basement is not fun. Rust is basically fortnite with more survival mechanics, that arent even that good.

fck new recoil, they just lazy to learn.

TOO ARCADE

I dont like rust but i like dayz😂

the game is shit now, im still upset after all this time

He’s basically saying the games not hard anymore which scares me because I get shredded everyday and win very few battles

😪😪

That’s why people wanted hardcore, but apparently those came with a techtree also lol…and major monuments like oil and cargo, a bit sad, hardcore could have been good

Rust 2 will bring it all back.

Rust turned from a hardcore dark survival game into a glorified call of duty with a 12 hour waiting period before people can get their guns.

2018 Rust was so amazing… Like right before they added Minicopter and everyone roamed on their 2 feet. No electricity, you could toss turrets down wherever and just turn them on. No tech tree, so you actually felt the progression. It felt so amazing to find an item you had been missing to finally be able to research it (this literally made every wipe progression unique). Recoil was very skill based. So even a solo who was decent and put in the work/practice had a chance to counter the constant 3-4 man teams.

I think Facepunch really loves their game tho, and it’s a passion project and it shows. But sometimes they add in stuff that no one really asked for or wants. Like subs and vehicles, anti aircraft, mlrs, homing missles, drones, engineering, etc… Like it’s just getting too complex with all the systems. Wish there were some official “old school” servers. Kind of like how World of Warcraft did Classic WoW or OS Runescape. People want to play the older versions of the game and I think it would be very successful if they added a couple servers at least, and not detrimental to the overall progression of the main version of the game.

I agree with a lot of this video. I would like to see the team system just turn into an ally system; which is already in the game. With the ally system your “friendlies” name doesn’t pop up until you’re pretty close to them. However you can extend this quite a bit by waving with a “wave check”. Maybe get rid of the team system altogether and incentivize people making allies and making it somewhat easy to see them. As someone who’s played since early 2015 in groups of 1-5. Having the old system of bi-weekly wipes made it a lot more fun to go around a server with old decaying bases almost like they were player made dungeons. However this was before TC locks were added. Instead of just looting the bases and researching before the next real wipe we’d actually stay on and play because wipe wasn’t for another 7 or 6 days. I just feel like they went into a weird direction with the npc quests, drone shops and on a side note the blatantly pay-to-win-esque dlc/skins. I really wanted them to incentivize people talking to one another on the map and making dynamic player made content their focus. They already got zergs why not bake into the game to show their power and make them an enemy of solo’s everywhere incentivizing them to team with randoms to just hurt them. I’d love to see other view points below

Team UI was never needed. Not having this created gameplay and people figured out ways to both communicate through voice but also with clothing and jump checks and when you learnt your enemies ways then you could get into a group and pretend your them. Actually no team ui is beneficial it made it so zergs was always confused who was with them and smaller groups 2-4 could easily know the battlefield.

Game is too easy these days and too fast pased imo, there is no challenge at all to raid anymore and even if you win vs people they just stay up until 5am to raid your base. Every base is raidable with just gathering mats for a few hours which is bad design. Its better to just play an FPS considering the way it has changed.

Progression right now is also way too fast paced and simple, game now days feels like a modded Rust. Great that some enjoy it but its more of an fast paced arcade game than a survival sandbox fps and the shop is flooded with DLCs

Chainsaws, Jackhammers, Helicopters, Giant Excevator is not needed and this in combination with adding upkeep made it probably 4-10 times easier to raid someone than what it used to be. Also some say “i cant raid that zerg base in old rust” well your maybe not suppose to raid it as a 2 man group but from experience. People came together to take down the big bad zerg groups with a band of smaller groups and honestly it created a lot of interesting gameplay.

Rust Hardcore was a lot more fun even tho it was not enough hardcore and now they are removing it :/
less is more, this is very true for Rust imo

For those of you enjoying the current Rust, enjoy and have a fun. Here is hoping for a “Rust 2” with more how it used to be.

Another “I miss the old days” complaining video

You out yourself right at the end. You complain the game is too level now because “all the guns are laser beams” but you say at the end you miss “beaming kids from 200m”. So it was fine when you could do it, but not your opponents? But now the playing field has been levelled and aim is much more important rather than recoil control, which is a skill players can bring in from other fps games (recoil is not) now suddenly thats not ok? Btw I spent 100s of hours in UKN practicing MP5 and AK recoil, I miss beaming but I also have extremely good aim and don’t pattern knowledge to win my fights.

Minecraft Has alot of comp servers and tournaments Wdym

If you needed superior recoil control to win fights, you were never as good as you think you were. If you can’t out aim other players now, it is a skill issue 100 percent. Cope more though if it makes you feel better about yourself. Also game sense in Rust is a joke compared to pretty much any other PvP orientated FPS game. Most of the “gamesense” is just wall spamming, in monuments its the same but the environments are so basic and easy to learn its diluted heavily from something like Tarkov, or CS/Val/Siege. Its closer to Fortnite than any other game from that perspective lol.

Hardly anyones roaming these days and the recoil change didn’t turn out as the blessing for the game I thought it would be. I think they should do it like Wow and implement a ‘classic’ version, I want bus stop bases and other stupid exploits, the need to leave your base and run monuments to progress with no tech tree and an actual recoil. That would bring me back to the game

I love KCMO BABYYYYY!

“ All games need a competitive side to it for it to be long lasting”

This is fine as an opinion but it’s not fact. The longest lasting games are normally survival/open world. Think minecraft or the gta franchise or even fallout I have been playing minecraft since before the hunger bar came out but rust (competitive) I get burnt out very quick and depressed when raided same with dayZ.

People give up on comp games because comp and fun are two different things

I think you overestimate the importance of a competitive scene, a game doesn’t NEED a competitive scene to remain relevant.
PUBG wasn’t killed by lack of competitive scene, it was killed by better games defining the genre it created, a boom in popularity from better made games when PUBG was struggling with bugs and updates. At the end of the day, what killed pubg was being a game that favoured burrowing in a house and waiting for circles, 20 minutes running around to get 1 shot by a sniper in the last circle.

Rust right now has a problem of ‘too many servers’ or ‘not enough servers’ depending on your region. can’t sustain a constant pop through a week of wipe if every 2 days a batch of servers wipes and anyone raided will swap over rather than rebuild
The building meta is making most medium to big raids largely unprofitable and you find yourself raiding for zone control or personal vendettas more than for resources

Cars, helis, horses and parachutes have changed how we move around, even something like barreling around in the water brought a change to servers, you don’t see too many people farming scrap past the point of t1 and early t2, even early t2 is mostly farmed, like you said, in tunnels or monuments.

the game is “different” but I believe it’s an adjustment period while FP brings the game back up, they’ve been focusing on things very unrelated to guns and progression, and once that focus shifts back over, rust will see another golden age

those were the fkin days. and no its not change we old players dislike its the fact that the devs made impulse changes over streamers that dont even play their games…. The fact they neglected all of us old players for what? nothing? Money? 15mins of fame? idc if rusts at its peak. not for me… not for us… we all loved the game in the early years of development and im just so happy i got to fkin experience it before this.

miss the 2015,2016 rust, the old bp system. maan those days were the best

gerbert johnson mentioned in a rust video

The issue with Rust doesn’t have to do with try hards in my opinion. Been playing since legacy. The issue with the game is the sheer amount of cheaters, and zergs. Wiping the players out quickly compared to back in the day. You can see this through servers dying so quickly. (Yes I know this happened before, but not like it does now). This game was always made by the interactions among players. That doesn’t happen like it used to anymore. People are constantly trying to grub, or be in a 15 man team to wipe all the players out. Again these things happened before but not on the scale they do now. We need to encourage player interactions, and do something about these cheaters.

why u didnt add rust classic clips?. do u even know what rust was before

If you miss old rust hop on console we just in the last year got power horses and farming.. our pops are too low rn…

Played from 2014-2022 and adapted to whatever Facepunch had in mind for PvP update after update. Then in 2018 when they added spray patterns, since the beginning I spent hundreds of hours solely on getting better at just that not to mention the thousands I spent actually PvPing. I was proud of my progress with sprays but now it’s sad to see all those nights repeatedly shooting bots were for nothing

I dont play PUBG anymore but wait, died out? Bro it has 80k players minimum at all times

I have like 2k hours but I started playing in 2021 around the underwater labs update. By the time the new recoil came out I was getting really good with how the game was before so when they switched everything up I got cucked. Although I wasn’t playing very long before new recoil, I really do miss old rust. It used to be so much fun.

As someone whsoe be player rust on and off since legacy launch I got some things I agree with and disagree with.
The recoil was a necessary change for the longevitly of the game you can’t just cater sololy to the sweats or all the new/casual players will quit and then the game will just slowly die. Even the casual mode softcore is just filled with sweats and clans who can’t play with the big boys bullying the new players who are trying to learn the game because they can’t compete with actually good players.
They don’t need a new thing to attract new players when the recoil change was to and succeeded in attracting new players the main thing about rust that deters new players is that if you wanna have a remotely decent time you have to play it all day and most the night and when you sleep you need to afk in your base with the speakers on loud for when someone tries to offline you.
There’s still plenty of skill to learn in the game like you said aim, recoil, game sense, teamwork, mechanics, base building, base defence, raiding and etc the main issue hard core players have is that they can’t get free wins in guns fights anymore for mastering recoil and now you have to master aiming instead which is harder to do than mastering recoil if you could master aim in 1000 hours everyone would be playing on pro esports teams. Saying the game is just numbers and positioning now is cope. You can still easily out play groups if you’re good enough there’s plenty of solo rust players showing videos of them beating/defending against clans it just a skill issue and groups of clans who all mastered the old recoil existed back them as well and they still dominated the servers they were on.
I do agree the progression in the game is too fast as well to the point my friends will saying now “playing x server wipe no rushing to aks first day chill slow progression.” There being so many monuments is another thing I can understand but if you’re playing on the 1000 pop servers it’s not a issue and more needed for bigger servers and allows people who wanna quiet chill wipe on a 100 pop server to have a more chill experience.

Over all your opinion on how to have fun with rust I think is mostly right treat it like a minecraft play through where you gather up the boys every once and a while and play a wipe probably during a school/college break for the younger players and when you get some time off work for the older players this is the time you’ll have the most fun just like you didn back in highschool with the boys when you had more free time. I’d reccomend the new game the finals for people looking for a competative skill based shooter with a concentration on squad play and they have a high recoil gun that kills faster than the rest just has a smaller mag but if you mastering it no one can beat you 1v1 just it lacks in team fights due to only being able to kill 1 person per mag while it slower ttk lil bros can trpically kill 2+ people per mag. Also the gun is the scar on the medium class.

i quit the game one they added crosshairs

My friends grew out of it

Ive been playing rust pretty much since its start. I personally prefer the way its headed with most things.

pre electricity rust was the peak.

remove scrap

6700 hrs on rust and this video speaks. Grew up on rust with the skill gap wish it was still there ;(

Rust peaked at legacy. It used to have soul and be really fun with bases being so difficult to raid that if you got into fights with your neighbours you couldnt just bomb their base after 2 hours of grinding. Now its just some kind of rougelike survival game where you are limited to survive for a week on most servers and your life doesnt matter at all since there are so many ways to get the best loot. The only good thing about new rust is the recoil update – it made kids who spent 1000h on aim trainer maps cry.

Rust is adult minecraft, ive always been OK with that.

This guy sounds like an idiot. The weapons in game recoil worse than their real world counterparts, have less range and much more ballistic drop. The AK74 has 18” ballistic drop at 350m but in Rust it has a 15 FOOT drop at 310m.

And teams of “4 or 5”? I haven’t seen any official server yet that allowed a team bigger than 4. Maybe there’s some, IDK, I’ve only tried around 35 different servers. But whatever.

the game just feels like COD not like a survival game anymore i played since legacy and i will never return to this game fully until they get rid of this COD gameplay, there is no community interactions no anything anymore just team death match with farming added

Would be good if they made a “classic” rust with the old component system and gun mechanics. that was prime rust

I enjoyed the video, but isnt Rust still really popular?

honestly ever since the recoil change i been playing rust way more. aint nobody got time to sink 1k hours just to learn how to shoot a gun properly

I miss the competitive side of rust

i think the reason i struggle to enjoy Rust now is because I’m 30 years old now, constantly tired, and Rust keeps me stressed out and on the edge of my seat in hyper alertness scared i’ll die at any moment

Well fucking spoken dude

Yeah, minis not spawning on the road completely diminished top down oil takes for solos.

I still love rust. But y’all can keep crying. It’s all y’all are good at anymore

Minecraft is also competitive, has quite a bit of competition on pvp servers.

Facts man, I had so many fun hours

The game going to console is what ruined the ak at least they had to make the recoil less skill and more luck for controller players and then reduce recoil over all so its comparable from pc to console. I also shouldn’t be forced to use a shitty holo to reduce aim cone

They flattened the terrain with the car update but it just made hiding from clans even more difficult, and the bush nerf was also terrible for underdog players.

People forget Rust used to be full of tallgrass and hills everywhere lmao it felt so much cozier.

I think its better than before and you are just complaining because you dont get good

biggest problem for solos or duos is the 8-15man groups cant to shit

BRING XP SYSTEM BACK

i dont becasue, its scary, paranio pvp madhouse

idk how many players out there left the game ONLY cuz of recoil changes but im one of those.
the moment i saw a video on youtube giving info about next update and they will change recoils
it was like a actual shock to my body , i didnt know i love rust that much until that day
i stare at the monitor for couple minutes and couldnt believe what i just saw
im 25 and im in that stage of my life , nothing makes me truly happy anymore but if one day i wake up and i see news about rust bring back old recoil , i would jump and call everysingle friend i have and tell them the news :))))

i hope many people suggest devs to just let server owners run old recoil rust + sound or anything like that ….
idk how crazy hard it can be for programmers to make it happen but i feel like its not that insanely hard …
i would even buy the game once again xD to just play what we called Rust . . .

I was gonna play tf2 after seeing this video but after nearing this videos end I guess i wont

As i new player i absolutely love the game and old players getting tired of the game should acknowledge that the game state is actually still really good.

I have like 5k hours and I find myself getting off after a week 1 on monthly servers. I duo with one of my co workers and that is what revived my passion for it because with home, I played different. It’s a lot to experience from the game I would suggest switching it up doing different things. My first 3k hours was farming and staying in a general area. Hemp farming to get scrap for explosives vs farming sulf noids. It’s still farming and take time to turn in the hemp but it’s different from traditional bode farming.. it’s things like that you could change.. on wipe today I will build by oil for the first time ever and try it out. I play solo servers btw.. and once I get tired of that I’ll move to main vanilla and go against groups like the content creators do. But I am tired of playing my style and I miss opportunity by staying in general area..

They should bring back recoil patters. The patters should also be randomized (or wiped) monthly. THAT will be legit!

i stopped playing when voice props was released

the worst thing they introduced is OiL Rigs, they have OP Drop and larger groups controlling these moments. Because a few hours after the server starts, they are running around with AKs and a full set

way off lmao

Honestly i mainly dont like rust anymore because whenever you try to find someone to play with there is a dumb requirement that is needed tbh at this point I wont be surprised if they ask for a CV and it feels like a job rather than a game to have fun in

I’ve played Rust since legacy with large breaks between plays (2.5k hrs over 9+ years). Would literally uninstall for a year at a time. Going away and coming back to a different game has always been a fun part of the Rust experience to me. If you expect anything to stay the same forever in Rust, well you are playing the wrong game. The playerbase grows, adapt or die.

Man I miss the exploration and cool maps as well as the player interaction. When you have played for as long as I have it’s hard to see the game you love change so much and then when you get used to it it changes again every time recently it loses a bit of its sweetness.

Well Theres alot of Things, Mini and scrapcopters, the Workbench Change, before u Had to find Garage door or trade IT with someone, know u Just need wb2 and 500 scrap🤷🏼‍♂️ oil rigs to stupid fast and yes im General to many Monuments

When they swapped the BP system i got upset, now you can just sit in your base you don’t need to “find” a item anymore

rust was in its peak when you could just straight skill dif and 1v5 fullmetals with an mp5 or tommy. everygun is just so inferior to the ak now to balance the lack of recoil with awful aimcone that you get robbed half the time. The devs really should have gone with a middle ground of slightly easier recoil patterns because aimcone makes gun fights so so unssatisfying

As an OG rust player who used to play main scene for over 4 years I 100% agree with you. Game changed and we need to accept it. Sad part about it is that main/clan scene died and it almost feels like rust died in the same time. I’m happy and proud aswell that one of my last memories was that big ass raid on qM and I was a part of it. Nowdays playing rust once a month is enough.

I honestly prefer the new rust. When I first got rust I couldn’t play it for shit. At least now as a casual I can come in after work and play with my friends on a low pop server. Until I can work from home I wouldn’t be able to be on all the time to keep up with the others.

could also be because you have spent nearly 10 years doing the same thing over and over

Also zero ground pvp, you run around like a maniac but u hardly see people. Everyone farming oil or tunnels. I JUST WANT TO ROAM AND HAVE PVP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only the OG’s remember Rust Alpha

Why do you think your mic sounds good with your mouth so close to your mic???

what is ur other channel

Playing rust over the last decade has felt like playing 10 different games with how much it changed. I still think Rust is by far the best game ever made without a doubt but now that its identity crisis has finally settled I am no longer interested in its final form as many others.

When I’ve tried playing recently I’ve noticed 90% of my old teammates no longer play the game or play extremally infrequently when before Rust was the game they’d play 90% of the time Thursday-Sunday.

Just wish they would’ve just made a Rust 2 at this point so people could pick what they want.

Honestly i think a thing people meme on a ton but really is a problem is the community being so offensive i have played rust for 6 years and honestly i dont think there is a worse community in ANY game. I have met tons of people who have quit because of it and i might quit because of it aswell. When i asked my brother why he would not play rust he just told me “why would i pay to have people tell me to kill myself and calling me names” honestly he is right

This is why every content creator finishes their wipe in 2-3 days max, you start a day or two late, buy a sar or Tommy and you are set

I dont know about recoil. But there are very specific things I dislike about rust.
– 3am raiding. The raiding meta just encourages this. Its too time/resource intensive to raid someone, and too risky to lose boom during raiding, or for people to patch up/seal half way trough a raid, hence it encourages people to offline raid. Its boring, and gives everyone involved poor sleep.
– TRYHARDS. When rust started most people were chill, you had PVP, but you also had a friendly community who could interact beyond the PVP, it made the loss of a combat be more fun. Tryhards have made the game unbearable, you can trust no one, shoot first, ask questions later, murder nakeds on sight. This all comes from the few try hards who will do anything to gain a leg up, they get normal people on edge, and everyone ends up behaving like that to a degree.
– Dying servers. When you do bad in a server, you quit and go to another server, when you do good, everyone else quits and your earnings are meaningless. Its a lose-lose situation.

And worst of all is I think all 3 of them have fixes, only facepuch doesnt seems to think about addressing those.
3am raiding:
– Make “Safe hours” An option for servers, where either raiding cannot happen 11pm to 7 am. Or where a player has 8 hours a day of safe hours to use. They have to define them as soon as they join the server, they cannot be changed, and they are public in an ingame profile (So people who want to raid you can see when they can raid you). And raid protection does not apply if you are online. If you are already being raided and you disconnect during your “safe hours”, then the protection doesnt kick in.
– Make the rust app notify us if any of our walls or roofs are damaged
– Add a “noise detector” to electronics which detects explosions in a short range (heartbeat detector is pointless because it can be activated by a naked with a ladder)

Tryhards:
– This one is a lot harder. There’s a very small difference between a good player trying their best, and a tryhard who takes the game too serious and ruins it for everyone else. Sadly I dont think there’s much to do here.

Dying servers:
– Make it harder to grief bases. If you get raided, but still have a base and a T3, you are way less likely to leave the server. While at the same time, as the raider sometimes you REALLY Want the ability to get rid of someone for sure. There should be a way to do that, only not be the default, and cost extra. The way to do this is to make it so we can SEAL the TC completely, and the TC does NOT store resources. It will use resources anywhere in the base, or in some new “Base Resources box”. So the TC gives you permission to build, and connects automatically to 1 “base resources box” anywhere in the base. This way raiders will know they found the equivalent of TC loot, and they wont need to destroy the TC to get it. They can still try and destroy the TC to then grief the base, but its a separate effort from the loot. In the same spirit, allow the workbench tables to be sealed and work anywhere in the base to anyone with TC access.
– Add more ways to interact and trade with other players safely. I think phones were a funny and dumb way. But a couple more smaller monuments kind of like outpost/fishing village would be nice. Perhaps even smaller than those.

what breakcore song did you use for the intro?

Reason been your good old undetectable scripts don’t work anymore, therefore no more beaming hs at >100 mts :V no wonder why they leave.

Idk what are you talking about, i still love Rust 😁

It doesnt feel like a challenge anymore. A part of Rust’s allure was that you had to be skilled in order to succeed.. knowing the spray patterns and learning to control the gun itself. Loot was also considerably harder to aquire, which made getting your first Bolty or AK feel like an achievement. Now, everything is basically handed to you with safezones, shops & enough momuments to spread the server thin of combat. You only see huge PVP at Launch, Rigs, Roaming or Raiding. Players are now able to just accumulate masses of scrap & buy their loot. One thing i personally hate is this computer system. Being able to see monuments from the comfort of your base is so dumb. Especially when the kid watching thr computer never PVP’s and only sends out the zerg squad in a scrappy. Nade launchers are annoying as well, i remember “noob tube” being a thing back in COD.. wonder why it isnt thought of the same way here. Idk, just seems like a game made for role players and zergs now.. which honestly may bring them more active players than if they catered to their original base

I see these videos a lot and they never actually mention the true cause of the issues with rust.
C H E A T E R S
As an experiment i recorded every single death I had from a player with a gun during a weekly server starting from minute 1 of wipe and guess what.
30% of the steam accounts that killed me with a gun had a level 0 steam account, 2 friends no steam profile picture no set up only rust, no reviews.
A throwaway account simply used for cheating.
Now you will never be able to get rid of rust cheaters fully but what you must be able to do is balance the Cheater to Player ratio, especially in a game where you can lose 2 hours of grind to a cheater running about, and if you know they’re cheating your option is to just sit inside which is also not GAMEPLAY.
Any pc players I will encourage you to look at the steam profile of those who kill you each time, even if you don’t suspect them you will be shocked.

So why is this the core issue. Rust is a scary, high gain/loss game with players being able to lose hours of grind to someone with an esp and aimbot.

You start with the safe zones, a place where people can recycle in safety to ensure that their grind is less likely to be lost, they simply have to make it a short distance to their base, anyone that doesn’t use these methods are seen by espers and targeted. I cannot tell you how many times I have experimented with putting 50 tech trash in my inv and hiding in a spot at a monument only to be magically found then prefired by someone with a level 0 account.

You then reduce the aimcone and recoil
yes this is much easier for new players who get a gun in their hands for the first time BUT what it also does is level the playing field between an aimbot/recoil script vs a legit player
Yes the good player is now capped but so is the cheater

You then throw in easier ways to obtain guns and scrap so that if someone is killed by a cheater the impact isn’t as bad.
On old rust you could lose hours of actual boring ass grind because someone with an aimbot/recoilscripts and an esp saw you going out with your one kit to recycle some vital comps.

I set up a private server as its cheaper now got some trusted players on it with verified accounts and then took out the safe zones and it ended up with the most fun I have had in rust in years because I knew that every pvp and death was alegit fight. The future of rust is fine, its just in whitelist only servers that tweak the values that make the game harder because far less cheater.

Recoil change didnt kill rust, loot inflation and big group favortese killed it

Hmmm maybe i guess when you said once that was better before, mate your time is done you a dead fish ><(((*> ><(((*> ><(((*>

Just play rust without using the new shit. if you hate electrics, dont use them. Hate the tech tree? dont use it. You can play literally however you want.
As for the recoil thing, spending 1000 hours to be able to use a gun is actually stupid and if you enjoyed that go play csgo

They cater to casuals, RP’s and Zergs….it’s fucking stupid

rust vr(strayed, grim vr) looks kinda like old rust

how they have ruined the game 😞

but they added a freaking ATTACK CHOPPER who can be mad at that man… soooo sick

Good times man Good times

Perfect video. perfectly said, i have 3600 hours mainly as a solo and after recoil update i end up just throwing guns at bad players because you legit cant win fights as a solo anymore. So i get on for a day and get guns easily but then in t2 just end up getting shit on in every fight and cant progress like i used to be able to.

ive got around 1000 hours on rust. Started in 2017 until now but majority of my hours were in the early days 2018-2020. Rust was just more of a complex yet simple games. Get a base, Get loot, PVP. But now everyone wants to be safe all the time now, I roam and theres all just roof campers or people who hide in their base and use the tech tree. Pvp fights arent even remotely even anymore, I get beamed and die in 2 seconds from an 8 man or get grubbed by some db kids. Just isnt the same, i doubt the game will die though because of its concept is so appealing and ill keep playing it.

i bought rust 3 months ago. spent the last 2 on pve and aim train servers. really enjoyed it. this last month i went on normal servers and here is the problem for me. spent all day grinding till i was tired. log off and next morning raided by a clan. different server new day. same thing. raided by a clan. i can wipe a 4 man with an AK. talent is not the issue with players loosing interest. it’s spending a whole day playing to be raided off line. i play solo so a group against a solo is almost always going to win. but no cowards offline every time. 3 months in i don’t play any more

naaah man Rust Legacy WERE THE BEST DAY’S

quit a year or two ago the second they got rid of the recoil and have never been better, sure its probably my fault I was addicted to getting better and expanding the reaches of my skill level but I am kinda glad I’m not the only one as sad as that may be because at the time all I heard was how this was the best thing ever and now a few years later after watching no rust content I somehow find this vid and it shares my views and is quite validating. thank you

You’re tripping. Rust is in it’s prime.

Vanilla feels like 2 x or better now. I want random loot again , no more tech tree. Make guns alot more rare SLOW IT DOWN PLZ

I think that the tech tree was one of the worst changes that rust had. The fact that prim is over in like 2 hours for basically everyone really makes the game feel dull and repetitive. Also you arent really required to run monuments and pvp a lot to get a gun you can just farm the same road for some time and tech tree to a gun really quick.

I playing since Rust Legacy 2014-2015 compare to DayZ and other stuff it was the best in atmosphere and it had balance between PVP and PVE ok it had shitty graphics so many exploits but it was special when i skip nostalgia 2016-2021 it comes with that PVP tryhard kids that i dont like too much i want enjoy survival aspects of the game, for competitive gaming i have counter strike not survival game this is why i stop playing it yes i was beast in new Rust Experimental because i just want defend myself ( 5k hours of playing this game ) . And yes its too late to reduce recoil for new players that can play its now really weird i teach myself old really difficult recoil and they change it because of new players want play . Facepunch never gonna find balance between PVE and PVP community . But you know that money talks

gamesense says “The value of a player is around the same I dont know”. That’s right, he has no clue what he is talking about, I just see one of the few OG players who still play the game complaining that the game is not tailored for him so he is whining that is the game is not fun anymore when if he used any part of his brain he would see that rust is doing great atm. AND mostly all of his complaints make no sense aswell, complaining about the meta being big groups. no shit thats why all servers have rules regarding group size. Like does this rust OG player not know about solo servers? or he is just coping and malding?

Everything thats making the game bad for you is making it better for me xD I love rust, I’m a pve’er xD

I miss when you could build ontop of monuments.

Could be the KOS style game play where it turns what should be a survival game into the worst game of Call of Duty. Almost as if having literally no incentive to be diplomatic because the grind needed to get anywhere encourages the KOS because it’s just simply faster to steal someone else’s stuff, not because there’s a lack of resources, but because it just simply takes too long.

Seeing everyone breaking down about rust now a days reminds me of how i felt when rust went from legacy to what it is now, I feel like they’re cycling player bases 😂

Your vids really hit different. I personally spent a little too much time on old rust(11,000Hours) , the addiction was getting better each day you would notice the effort you put in actually working you would notice your ak getting smoother and more consistent everyday, practicing actually mattered. All i can say is take me back to 2017-2018 Rust, that was a beautiful time.

I still play Rust often, and have done since 2016

“What can change will exist!”

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