I’m playing FF 16 on the pro right now and with VRR enabled it’s actually an enjoyable experience.

Not again, why a mediocre games console yet again. This channel has let down the Pc community big time.

Good content/ review brother

16 is a bad PC port it even struggles on RTX 4090 💀

Please make a video about the ps5 pro patch of black myth wukong

Stranger of Paradise : Final Fantasy Origin.
I can say to my complete mystification I have NEVER HEARD OF THIS GAME.

Definitely need the other ff games to be patched for pro

Can you please just stop asking for developers to remove features – I don’t want any random developers thinking you speak for everyone on this issue as you do not ! It is just you really Oliver & asking someone to take someone else’s features away is just not cool. In this case the correct response would be to suggest they patch the Base PS5 code too. Or make a further patch for the Playstation 5 Pro.

Ff 7 rebirth and ff16 should be improved on base ps5 instead on relying only on ps5pro. Perfectly know that ff 16 has no patch for the pro version, but i think the problem is poor optimization from square team.

Ff 16 is using fsr1, which is outdated… they could add fsr3 and frame gen if they would, so is for ff7rebirth (tsr from ue4 is simply horrible).

I’m not saying that ps5pro is not welcome, but improvement on base ps5 should be the game changer.

Can you DF guys please STOP advocating for devs to Remove options? Please stop recommending eliminating unlocked frame rates too. If they did this with Stranger of Paradise like you had rec’d they do a few years ago, we wouldn’t be 😊getting 60fps now on more powerful hardware!

Just because you don’t wanna have to test all the modes for comparison, doesn’t mean they should be removed

I personally like playing Rebirth on the Pro in different modes and checking out the differences!

Ff16 and Stranger of Paraside have noticably better resolution when I tested them.

Shame you didn’t show Final Fantasy XV (15) running at 60fps mode on PS5 pro to judge the image quality. Strange that you left it on the 30fps mode in all clips.

Giving Stranger of Paradise some love though, that’s one of my recent favourites, it’s a hell of a game, super fun, great final fantasy nods and just a really solid title. Looks much better than on release too. I wish more people would give it a go!

Stranger of Paradise is the ugliest game on PS5, and it’s not close.

I hope they don’t screw up the Rebirth PC port but…it is Square.

There is still nothing worth giving Sony $700+ for this Console/Test Product. $300 more with NO DISC DRIVE with NOT $300 worth of Quality Upgrade. Especially when Developer Lazyness and BAD Optimization is whats mostly in play.

But I happily payed $464 for PS5 Slim that came WITH A DISC DRIVE. NEVER would I buy a Discless + Digital Only= Useless Console

I hope that Sony is working really hard behind the scenes for FF16’s Pro patch. It took a little extra time to get 40K’s patch. Outside of some remaining framerate woes image quality is great.
With Sony actually having a hand in FF16’s production it might be a fair assumption that Sony are going the extra mile to ensure the most premium experience.

On the other hand, Sony might have other titles that they’re prioritizing first. PSSR might be getting some iterative tweaks under the hood too. Regardless, Sony has to know the demand is high.

I know the game was bad but could you guys do a breakdown of ps pro on Forespoken….to see if there is any increase? It wasn’t the best but it did have tons of effects

Come on square give us a 16 pro patch !!

Besides Rebirth…FF16 is the other game that I’ve been waiting for an update on. I played both FF games in 30fps because of the poor Performance Mode. I would love to play Hard Mode once a Pro patch releases

I hope we grow out of upscaling next gen.

Nice vid.. I really dislike pop in, it’s so immersive breaking. More so then blurry stuff mostly cause I have bad eyes anyways but pop in and lod stuff is so jarring to me

Pop in shouldn’t exist anymore, literally the whole point of having ssds in the new consoles.

FF14 increase is incredible one of the definite way to play the game. The game supports KBM setting as well for those prefer it so its a no brainer.

Don’t forget via Rebirth on PS5 Pro when rotating the camera of the MC you can see very noticeable aliasing or jaggy lines on his sword.

Digital Foundry should Contact CBU3 and Square Enix – and ask them to address these issues and produce a PRO ENHANCED UPDATE the style of Versatility Mode in Rebirth!

It’s so depressing how Square-Enix handles it’s games, especially FF16 🙁

FF16 need s patch and ps5 FF15 client

The state of FF 7 rebirth on regular PS5 is a disaster. I don’t understand how they could release such a mess of a game. The first part looks and performs perfectly on PS 5. Why they couldn’t have just done the same with rebirth?

Why should i care about FF16 if even its devs don’t ?

Glad i didn’t get the game. I’m good playing older titles.

Now test Final Fantasy 13 on ps5 pro…..oh wait!😭

I hate pop ins in games

Ff13 runs a lot better on series x than the pro tbh 😂

Finally Rebirth is clear enough to appreciate all the other glaring PS3-like visual flaws

stranger of paradise 🔥🔥🔥

Agreed. FF16 needs a Pro Patch

I actually can’t believe how much sharper and cleaner Rebirth is

That LOD 🤢

Rebirth dropped A LOT of frames on PS5 PRO in Junon when getting solders rounded up

11:30 Based City Nights music enjoyer

Hopefully Rebirth on pc will be better than this.

Whats sad is these games COULD look incredible, if Square Enix wasnt run by cowards and corporate goons. Dont buy their recycled garbageware! ♻️ 🗑

Shame they arent going to update the ps5 pro ff rebirth when the pc version comes out with better loghting and textures

Yeah nope, I didn’t subscribe to a PS5 channel. The flood of turning every stone for a game to run on it, is not nearly worth it for a once in a blue moon interesting video.

Unsubd.

I cannkt imagine they would spend time patching FF16 when the User base is so below expectations ( their words not mine ). Which is sad as learning how to patxh these games and squeezing out better visuals and performance is a skill that is worth learning for future titles.

Hell, I know quite a few PS5 Pro owners who would gladly buy older SE titles if they received PS5 Pro patches just because then they would have more games that benefit instead of games made WORSE.

I really wish Digital Foundry would make a much LOUDER sound about games made WORSE instead of just having a tiny blurb about it in a 10-20 minute video. GTA7 anyone?

Milking PS5 pro content…

I think the improvements to ff16 are still good regardless of a pro patch. Holding higher resolutions and framerates really let’s the game shine. I was previously completely underwhelmed by this game because it frankly hurt my eyes but now that i paid almost 800 dollars, i can enjoy it. I mean that unironically.

Anyone have a TL:DW ? 😂

Welcome to mid-range 2018 PC gaming.

I actually just got FF16 on the base ps5 due to sales. Is the 30fps mode the best mode to play it on if im on a base ps5?

For Rebirth, even the bare minimum when it comes to temporal upscalers would’ve done a 1000 times better job than whatever Vaseline they used in the base console. Seems like a marketing move more than anything, even the awful FSR1 that they used in XVI would’ve done a better job. Doesn’t make sense why wouldn’t they implement things like FSR2 when it is open-source and so easy to implement.

This channel is now playstation based bs huh.. ok see ya

I’m still waiting for a Soul Reaver Remaster video, like DF did with Tomb Raider at the beginning of this year

Crazy that in ps5 pro you cant access to the power you’re paying for, with some titles still in 30. That’s why i opted for a pc upgrade instead

FF16 is one of the worst optimized games ive played.

I’m gonna play ffvii rebirth 4K 120fps next month, I will post proof of it

This feels like an advert for Final Fantasy and PS5pro.

3:06 to be fair, I see that moireing pattern IRL with fences and stuff at angles like that. At a certain point it’s just realistic

Let’s goooooo 🔥

My God, people still claiming FF 7 Rebirth looks good with that atrocious draw distance and pop-in. Character models are on point though.

I can’t believe ff16 still isnt a locked 60fps

“Suprisingly strong showing” -Oliver

No way I would’ve played those games in Performance Mode with all that damn BLUR.

CHAOS

When PSSR on Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters!?

Rebirth is such a underrated game. I just picked it up and it’s soooo much better than remake

I just want them to remove the 30fps lock from FF12 😞

So this is it huh? The rest of the year is going to be how old games run on pro? No marvel rivals?

PS5 Pro is simultaneously necessary to play new titles, and the worst move Sony has made in a decade.

The performance mode on FFVII Rebirth on the PS5 is embarrassing. It’s really REALLY bad, graphically

7 Rebirth would have looked just as good with FSR 2. But it is abundantly clear that Sony and Square gimped the Base PS5 version to make the Pro look better.

Can’t wait for the massive improvements to rebirth’s graphics coming to the pc version. Makes the pro patch look like a joke.

Not featuring @My Life in Gaming for this vid?? I’m so tired of Oliver tbh

FF16 really got left in the dust

Nobody should have to get a 700+ usd patchbox to excuse developers’ lazy implementations, bad optimizations, or awful design choices.
That’s all the Pro is.
A bill the consumer pays for developers doing a bad job.

its like they made the ps5 downgrade to show off the ps5 pro.Not fooled.

Looking forward to PS6 for most of these heavy games that utilise upscaling or UE5 in general

Playstation is keeping this channel alive single handly😂

Square Enix engineers SUCK at optimizing for PlayStation in my opinion. The gulf between these visuals and something like Horizon Forbidden West is so vast its insane.

For all the people who said the pro isn’t worth it. Nobody listened lol i bought it and am happy i get better performance than base blurryS5 and 600$stripperglitter box full RDNA2🤪 we got RDNA2,3,and 4 bruh!🤣 can’t wait to play gta 6 on a real next get machine.😂

CHRIST, THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME AND VIDEO DURATION!🤦🏾‍♂️You guys already did so many videos gushing too much about how “AWESOME” FF7 Rebirth was on the PS5 Pro, why do that again by having that take up the MAJORITY of this one?! It’s become very redundant at this point and should’ve just been omitted altogether!

Why not have dedicated some of that time to FF7 Remake Intergrade instead along with some testing of some of the PS4 Final Fantasy games? I’m sure people would’ve been more curious to know how the system’s features would effect XV’s performance when played on it!

FF16 looks identical to me.

You all must be obsessed with the ps5 or sony is paying you.

This begs the question as to why they don’t offer a 40 FPS mode for all games on the PRO where 60 can’t be absolutely locked.

cant wait for Rebirth on PC 😀 luckily its just 4 weeks left of wait

FF 16 was a system seller for the PS5, why aren’t the bralndead SE not updating it?

Man ff16 is literally screaming for a pro patch and a lot of folks myself included, really want one. Your move SE

Do a video on slitterhead

ı want xbox sries s pro with disc drive. only console look like console. other towers bascily same with pc.

FF7 rebrith on performance mode is a joke, like the games mini games lol.

Control is likely to get patched early next year

So Rebirth’s Performance mode on PS5 doesn’t use TSR to render at 4k? It just uses TSR to render at ~1300p, then just uses dumb upscaling to 4k…? Well that completely explains the very poor, blurry results on PS5 and does not provide a case for PSSR.

“Every FF Game Tested” … forgets FFXV was a thing…

I feel like all of these improvements are what the games should have been from the start on base PS5 (except for the PSSR which is Pro exclusive, but can be easily bested through real optimization).
Take FF7 Remake for instance, on base PS5 it looked and ran incredible! Without any of the antialiasing problems and extremely blurry image, no PSSR “required”.
It’ sad and frustrating that the more hardware the devs have at their disposal, the more unoptimised their games are…

i cant be the only person who thinks pop in ruins graphics no matter the quality of the assets or resolution… especially when the lower quality LODs still look really good nowdays

I got the FF16 Pro patch when I bought it on PC

Every FF Game Tested!…… really????????????????????

The pop-in on FF7 Rebirth is incredibly distracting

FF16 should get a Pro patch more than any game. A higher resolution with an upgrade from FSR1 to PSSR would be significant.

You people want a console just as powerful as the PS5 pro, get an Xbox series X, and it will cost you as half as much, I have a ps5, Xbox oneX, and a switch light so I’m not a fan boy I’m a gamer

Like you people watch the ps5pro how Sony tried to justify it and Mark Cerny couldn’t even take his eyes off the teleprompter that tells you that PlayStation 5 pro is garbage

Square should work on their updcaller/AA tech… their current tech is garbage.

On the Regular PS5, would be better turn that thing off and go for checkboarding instead..

Wait so Rebirth runs slightly above 1080p on PS5 performance mode and still looks sub 720p? How do they accomplish that, that’s impressive.

When the game is very responsive and there is a stick deadzone setting (like in Avatar) I like a stable 30fps mode. It plays well with my SONY TV frame generation.🌌💟

They should release PS5 Pro patches for FFX/FF12/FF13/FF14/FF15/FFVII: Remake/FF16, etc. The first 4 games could easily do 4k120. FF15 and FFVII Remake should have a 4k60 quality Pro mode. FF15 was the first major FF to introduce advanced upscaling, HDR, etc features on PC.

Final Fantasy 7 was milestone on computer graphics on ps one? Are you drunk?

SquareEnix should’ve licensed Decima for these FF7 Remakes

Final fantasy 16 should get a patch for pro Square do it

I would love to see A Plague Tale Requiem tested on the pro

They should PSSR patch Final Fantasy 7 Remake Integrade and Final Fantasy 16

What about replacing that awful upscaler they use in FF 7 rebirth with FSR or TSR on the og PS5 ? 🙄

I watch Sony’s ps5pro thing, do you people see how they try to justify the ps5pro that no one wants expect you people that get it for free

Just target native 4k@60 with whatever sacrifices are required, and screw the graphics whores.

Going back to strangers, also glad someone mentioned ff14 getting a significant boost in frame rate. It is night and day in limsa.

Its sad seeing 16 wasn’t well optimized neither on pc and didn’t even got a pro patch. It’s my favorite ff. The eikon battles were meant to be played in 4k60fps

Another mind-numingly boring video about a console refresh, whoop-de-doo.

I’m at the point where I have a pro but not a vrr display and it makes me wonder if it may be worth it to hold off getting ff16 until I can upgrade my tv or if it’s really not that bad on a 60 hz tv.

Another patch review. These are boring

16 will get a pro patch in 2025 same with 14 and 7 part 1

Thanks for showing Stranger Of Paradise. That game deserves more love.

always for me, the fact that some of those ff titles have a pc version that runs with fsr2—which, by the way, is much better than fsr1/taau—is great. and since fsr2 can also run on the base ps5, it makes me wonder: will the base ps5 version always remain inferior and never receive a patch, just to the “pro version” shine a little?

I still cant believe how bad Rebirth looks on a base PS5.

Look the new patch for Black Myth Wukong!

STRANGER OF PARADISE!!!! fuck yes the only final fantasy that matters is back!

DF lack of attention is getting out of hand, why no mention of how the PS5Pro mode in Rebirth uses the exact graphical settings of the Performance mode and misses out on the higher NPC draw distance, higher NPC animation draw distance and higher NPC count graphical upgrades of the Graphics mode
Square needs to add PSSR to the graphics mode and remove the two old Performance modes and juse rename the two new Pro modes to Graphics Pro and Performance Pro so there’s no confusion

I hate TAA. Give me the option to disable it. I will take my chances with dithering, hair and foliage artifacts and jaggies. I will take a sharper image over a soft blurry TAA mess, any day. Resident Evil 2/3 Remakes look so much better and sharper with AA disabled.

When 1200p internal rendering resolutions start looking like 720p on my 1440p monitor, I’d rather take my chances if shimmer, thanks.

Placing my bets before I get to it — Stranger of Paradise is still a hot mess.

EDIT: Got to it, and… I guess frame rates are up, but I’m more concerned about how the game visually looks like it’s smothered in vaseline.

This is nice and all but where’s the Legend of Dragoon on PS5 Pro video?

No FFXVI Patch for the P5 Pro was one of the reasons why I gave a fuck about it. Square Enix games were actually even the reason numero uno why I even bought a PS5 in the first place. Unfortunately fF16 needs a beefy gpu with at least 16gb vram, to run without stutters. My 3080 struggles a lot the the current vram issues are the reason why I wont buy the joke of card called the 5080. 16gb will make me suffer in 2 years just like the 3080

Instead of “odd,” I would call “versatility” a stupid term to have gone with.

Unless the Pro can clean up the trophy list, I have less than no desire to touch Rebirth. The game director has gone on record to publicly apologize for butchering the trophy list, but lazily has yet to patch his mistake.

Worst. Trophy list. Ever.

Square please, just release it to XBOX PLEASE!

Rebirth looks sooo good on the pro

One hour in FF16 my first impressions are flickery low res self-shadows, LOTS of low res textures EVERYWHERE, poor skin shading (no subsurface scattering), some very low res sky boxes, lots of very ‘plain’ environments (e.g. rooms with repeating textures and very little detail, not many objects placed such as the throne room). Also had two crashes just in the first hour… running on 4090 at 4K.

There’s no excuse for Rebirth being so fuzzy on a PS5. Look at games like Uncharted 4, Indy on Series X, Zero Dawn. Spider-Man, Death Stranding. Absolute joke.

10:16 “Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin which is technically a Final Fantasy game too”
wdym technically? it’s a final fantasy game, pertaining to final fantasy, with final fantasy in the title

u guys shld do wukong next, the new balanced mode at 40 fps is amazing and looks stunning

Playing ff16 on pc. FSR3.1’s big problem is the motion blur, especially in grass. And considering how poor PSSR is at handling temporal detail <1080p Internal resolutions. PSSR could fare worse than FSR3 in that regard, especially with its high cost and ails upscaling a non-4K output.

So either adjusting/re-implimenting FSR3.1 or seeing if XeSS could run on it probably would be the best routes for PS5 Pro. Especially if they want to target 60fps all the time.

Either that or turn off the motion blur completely which would harm the "look" the game has

Since FF Rebirth is coming to PC… no need for a PS5 Profeshional if you want Tifa/Aerith at real 4K

PSSR, DLSS, FSR, etc are just excuses for devs to not optimize games and just release them incomplete to save a buck.

Rebirth just has insane annoying pop in that is even more obvious on the pro. Its immersion breaking

Stranger paradise must be one of the worst looking games I’ve seen

Hope they give 16 a pro patch. Would love to see the game optimized further and to take advantage of the new hardware. Would convince me to buy a pro.

Now do a comparison with the PC versions

Sony personnel actually helped developent of ff7 rebirth but it performed bad on base ps5, while ff16 was also like one of the highly regarded game yet it didn’t get a ps5 pro update

Insane that console players still have to deal with sub 60fps even on a $700 mid gen “pro” device in 2024.

Counting the days until the PC version of Rebirth, game will be gorgeous in DLSS.

7 remake really feels like laziness and greed. Hours in, and I quit for a plethora of issues that you don’t see in countless other games that are still just confusing. Why does grass and plants not react to touch? How does the first part look better from years ago? Why does it feel so rushed and why are half the textures broken messes and the frame rate is super inconsistent

What is “naive upscale” exactly?

How can the Rebirth developers themselves be okay with that foliage pop-in right in front of you while traversing? It’s insane and I still can’t believe it hasn’t been addressed. Same for Dragons Dogma. NPC’s pop up right in front of you. You won’t see that on any Horizon game. Not to this extent anyway. If there’s something that’s immersion breaking it’s up front pop in, screen tearing and major frame drops. I guess my OCD has a lot to do with it bothering me. If I were a dev my games would probably take 6 years of dev time to release. 😅

How about Final Fantasy 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,12?

FF16 development team has been disbanded, so it will not support pro enhanced

This video is missing like 15 Final Fantasy games that are playable on PS5.

This video was released 29 minutes ago and there are people commenting it 6 days ago? HUH?!

FFXIV is my main game, and I’ve been really impressed with how the pro plays it.

We love Final Fantasy

Eh… you’ve trotted out FFVII Rebirth so many times in praising the PS5 Pro because it has a crappy base release that never got the patches it needed. Probably because square was, as always, disappointed with the sales.
Stop praising this game for being fixed without hardly any help from the actual publisher of the game.

Please cover Empire of the Ants on PS5 Pro! It’s one of the most impressive games graphically so far on PS5 Pro and the unique tiny scale really emphasizes the granular details! It should definitely sit somewhere in Digital Foundry’s best graphics of the year list!

So with additional power of PS5 Pro, FF16 is not hitting 60 fps still huh? I thought this game was built for PS5 from ground up. What a joke. From both Sony and Square.

Le siguen dando bombo a un juego que no juega nadie

Neat, I was hoping 16 would get covered thanks!

Pretty weird that Final Fantasy 16 didn’t get a patch, but it does run great on PC hardware depending although at times with the boss battles the frame rate without frame generation can definitely still suffer but not for long during those battles.

I do wish they were able to uncap the cut scenes without modding the game but for the amazing story and the complete package that it is, compared to how XV was for so long.

I’m really disappointed it didn’t do better sales wise and now we are seeing SE do a complete about face for that reason.
For one I’m very glad that they have gotten their heads out of their bums and have decided to do multi platform strategy once again .

Overall I do think it was designed to just be played at 30 fps across the board on its original hardware but one has to wonder if a PS5 pro patch would help.

You guys have surprisingly high tolerance to ghosting.
I just hope it’s not financially motivated.

Wow, seriously this made my day. Thank you!

This is so good, can’t wait for what’s next.

The pop-in Rebirth is very distracting, instead of focusing only on picture quality, they should have improved other aspect of the game like the draw distance imo.

2:45 look at the pop in. $1200 or $700 beta upscaler for you guys

Can’t wait to play FF7 Rebirth on Steam OS with my next RX9070xt boosted by FSR4, once it gets official release after its early access on PS5 Pro patch named PSSR 👏🏼
Btw, I thought PS5 magical SSD would eliminate pop in. That was one of its targets, right?

shoutout to Stranger of Paradise. Literally Nioh2 with a FF coat of paint. Solid even amazing combat. Campy story that you kinda cringe at to begin with but honestly, by the end, its not altogether that bad. Very very underrated. DLC is amazing too.

It’s still missing the camera motion blur 😕

Now, if only i could play the XIII Trilogy on PS5 😭

Wish yall wouldve tested the combat sections on ff16
Those scenes are infamous for dropping the resolution to like 720p on ps5

The release of the Professional was the most event in gaming this year FF7 Rebirth is one of the many games which show off the potent power of the console.

16 needs a Pro patch

for me regarding Rebirth, this is Iess an enhancement and more making the image actuaIIy acceptabIe

won’t fix my issues with pop-in and awfuI shadow coverage but it’s _something_

PS5 Pro is just transformative for Rebirth. Shows potential of PSSR.

😀

Now do Final Fantasy XIII. *sike* Lost Odyssey will always be a 360 exclusive until Kaim dies. : D

What about FF1-6 Pixel Remaster? How many FPS?

Sounds like it’s finally time to play 16 (in 30fps)

Yo you missed the chocobo! 😃

I still wonder why FF12 never got a 60fps update like it has on xbox

One tip for non-pro owners: You can download the PS4 version of Stranger of Paradise (at no additional cost if you own the game digitally IIRC) and play that on your PS5 to experience drastically improved frame rates at the expense of just a bit of graphics quality. It really helps later in the game when the enemy count on screen starts to get really high

Whether 16 gets a proper Pro patch or not, it is still a beautiful game. It was designed around 30fps and Sony pushed a 60fps mode on the devs at the last minute and the results of that are evident. That being said, its beautiful at 30fps and is the best single player FF story since FFX.

The ps5 standard is not that blurry 😂😂😂

Weird that FF16 didn’t get a patch

I’m obsessed with FF

Now this is the content I’m looking for

FIRST!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊

I *love* that you covered Stranger of Paradise—thank you, Oliver! I had always wondered what the results of that image quality update were following DF’s original coverage.

Awesome idea to cover every FF game, really informative.

Stranger of Paradise runs perfectly now. I’ll actually play through it now on PS5 Pro.

Didn’t know FF16,or even CC and REMAKE were using DRS. This is nice! 😀

Just picked up Stranger Of Paradise for super cheap, good to see it’s running better.

Still crazy to me that 16 was never given a Pro patch. 16 was supposed to be this major “from the ground up designed for PS5” exclusive, and yet it’s just kind of been abandoned.