Was Final Fantasy XVI A Failure?

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It’s been one year now since Final Fantasy XVI came out. It’s time to discuss some of the harsh criticisms this game has faced since release.

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Intro 0:00
Story Summary 0:58
Characters 3:02
Battle system 4:57
The World 7:33
Sales 8:55
Closing Thoughts 10:08

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    • @plastikloser
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Still waiting for pc release

    • @matthewlin1182
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    This Game is Just Trash Garbage to some People hate the Game for Thier own Reasons.

    • @matthewlin1182
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    We hope Square Enix Make a Better Final Fantasy Game In the Future will be Final Fantasy XVII 17 for PS5 and others Console.

    • @matthewlin1182
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    This Game is Trash Garbage to some People or Player for their own Reasons say The is Suck they Hate the Game.

    • @matthewlin1182
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    PS5 Only Game Final Fantasy XVI 16 Mature Game By Square Enix Different World Different Character Different Story Than any other Final Fantasy Series.

    • @kyleprzelenski6196
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    If it gave me a diverse cast of party members that had chemistry, comedy, and tragedy as they bonded and work to overcome their own personal backstories together, I would have thought it was great.

    Let me PLAY with these characters, develop my own personal bonds to them, find fun combat synergies and make them feel like iconic FF jobs.

    Put those elements into this mature style of world and I think it would have done much better. Because to me, thats what make Final Fantasy special.

    • @bigswisschh
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I loved the first 15 hours, struggled a bit in the middle then it all came back and I loved it. My only complaint is the cutscenes facial animations were stale in comparison the FF7 Rebirth. Also once I put myself in the mind frame that each eikon is essentially a season of a TV show (in terms of content length and pacing, I really loved it. I’m starting a NG+ but also wanna wait for a PC port and play it ultrawide

    • @Mr.Schneebly69
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Bizarre to say this in the shadow of Rebirth blowing this game out of the water in terms of reception.

    • @rchi-zj4tx
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    NO ITS NOT. SAYS WHO?

    • @uppernimbus
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Great discussion Erek, that Ben Starr interview mock-up was hilarious 🤣 You should totally get him on the show if you can!

    • @TrvisXXIII
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I never finished it, and the comments are right. The game is hollow when it comes to being an RPG. There’s no elemental affinities whatsoever, status ailments, or deep character customization equipment. Better yet, any party composition.

    The “upgrades” don’t matter in the game and that’s just scratching the surface of what else it’s lacking. It’s just a flashy combat single player action game, nothing else.

    • @manolytovivi3090
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Final Fantasy XVI is great.

    • @patrickarraes4422
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    16 is a amazing movie, and ok game in my opinion. The battle system was lacking complexity but the mini boss battles were the complexity part. In ff14 has this problem, it simplify jobs so anyone can play them optimally and the complexity comes from boss/mini boss fights with full of mechanics and etc. The issue came from Clive being too op for the bosses and the mechanics were not fast enough or frequent enough to cause a challenge.
    Plus the whole open world is not an open world, quest were super boring, and almost no memorable scenes besides eikon battles.

    • @mikeymacaque
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I’ve been playing since the PS1 era. The only mainline games I haven’t played are 12 and 13. I’m having a hard time convincing myself that 16 isn’t my favorite.

    • @RobertWWD
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I love Final Fantasy 16.
    I just wish it didn’t have God of War vibes.

    • @liangbenhuang6244
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I dont see framedrop during exploration

    • @OrehBelich92
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    16 is the best FF since 10 to me

    • @PetarVazharski
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    No, it’s not OK that they changed turn based battles. It’s not the same game anymore.

    • @mr.c9382
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I disagree I think the game will age terribly specially when the graphics start to get outdated

    • @jumbalaya6531
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Others have mentioned it below, but since you asked, while FF16 is a return to form story wise in comparison to FF15, its lackluster in so many other areas. I enjoyed the combat, but the pacing of the story was horrendous. I like to explore the worlds of the games I play but FF16’s world, while beautiful, had very little to show me. Half the sidequests were super boring. I admit that some had very powerful moments, but the actual gameplay of the fetch quests put me to sleep. Finally, the gear customization and rewards for completing quests felt extremely dry.

    I could go deeper, but I don’t want to rag on the game too much. It’s really is a good game, but it leaves a lot of to be desired. It has me asking: what do ppl consider “final fantasy”? What does Square consider “final fantasy”? I wouldn’t say FF16 isn’t a final fantasy game, but it’s such a radical departure from what the series used to be that I struggle to understand what makes a game “final fantasy” anymore other than a few summons and a title

    • @nightmarishcompositions4536
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The game felt like a love letter to FF 1-6 with some 12 sprinkled on top. It’s not perfect but I loved it from beginning to end just like most other FF games.

    • @derekminna
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Instarted playing FF in 1994. The way the series is going isnt for me. The last good FF was 13-2 imo.

    • @protohunters
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The hate largely is coming from those that want FF to go back to turn based. I prefer turn based as well but it’s childish to me. The last time they did it was XIII in 2009 and everyone complained about it. The last truly praised turn based game was X in 2001. That’s over 20 years of not moving on.

    • @mrammm377
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The only thing wrong with the game is sometimes the enemies/bosses feel like tanks. Having to wail on them for long periods of time gets a bit exhausting to me personally. This is the same with FFVII Rebirth/Remake too. That said I don’t know what the perfect balance and execution for that would be.

    Other than that I felt the game was perfect. Incredible story and character developement. Side mission structure I hear some had issues with but not me.

    One of the best Final Fantasies in the series. Characters, music, story, and fun gameplay. People complain about everything these days… I mean Remake and Rebirth catered towards the fans a TON and people have massive complaints about those games too. Can’t make everyone happy.

    The whole ‘notmyfinalfantasy’ thing is a bit overboard though. Nothing about this needs to a movement or a protest lol

    • @divinesoul1987
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Great action game, poor FF game

    • @mariotrivelli3381
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    It was a really good Final Fantasy with strong characters

    • @kiminoko100
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Its simple actually general market didnt want the game

    • @PetrosofSparta
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    When I finished I ranked it Mid Upper level in the series. I think it does a lot really well, and to it’s credit – it does everything it’s trying to do and be fantastically. I went through it trying to play and enjoy it for what it was, rather than what I wanted it to be, or what I felt a Final Fantasy should be.

    I had a lot of concerns going into the game, and while many were alieviated during playthrough, a lot of them were kinda always there. For example, I didn’t feel it was as “dark and grim” as people had said, I full on expected Game of Thrones levels of swearing for example but it was still pretty chill and just regular dialogue, but I did feel it was a little bit lacking in Final Fantasy charm, part of which came from taking itself very seriously.

    I wasn’t a huge fan of the cast overall, Clive is a great character with a great portrayal and his seriousness isn’t the issue, it’s that everyone else around him is super dour and serious too most of the time – Cid excluded (but, well IFYKYK)

    Combat, I felt was enjoyable and satisfying but also felt very one note, every enemies, mini boss, major boss, Eikon, Final Boss, were beaten using essentially the same strategy and there’s no variation in the battles, so no matter how satisfying it felt like repeatedly eating a delicious lasanga. I felt this especially coming off the back of Remake then later playing Rebirth, where you still get satisfying action but also a lot more tactical thought.

    There’s a version of FF16 in my head, that will never happen but that’s my writer’s brain at work. Overall I did enjoy the game for what it was… but I also felt it lacked as a Final Fantasy.

    • @Taikomo
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Why is this channel a collection of just the worst takes?

    • @Rithysak101
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    If XVI is considered a failure, I’d love to know what’s Rebirth considering it sold worse.

    • @qur1578
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I personally do not care for XVI and hope they move forward using Rebirth as a template. XVI was fine for trying something new but a bunch of aspects in both story and gameplay just did not work imo.

    • @GenerationPixel
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FFXVI isn’t a bad game, it’s just not a good FF game. It’s far too linear, the combat is far too one dimensional, the attention to detail in world building is shockingly poor, the side quests are amongst the worst fluff and filler I’ve ever played and it, for me, is the least replayable FF in the entire franchise.
    A terrible Final Fantasy, but a stunning lookig DmC, if that’s what you’re into.
    You might have sussed I have strong feelings on this game 😂

    • @thaneros
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The thing I like about the series is that each entry is different that the last. Keeps it fresh imo

    • @sadisticD
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I’m a Final Fantasy and character action fan so I had high hopes on this game. My expectations were mostly met and I really enjoyed FF16. I have some complaints like the pacing drop especially between the Titan and Bahamut fights and I wish the combat system was more skill based with input combos instead of cool downs but I understand that decision. The lack of RPG elements didn’t bother ne but I get the complaint.

    • @spydermag5644
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I really like the story of 16. The battle system was a step up from 15 but not as good as Remake or Rebirth. I did get the platinum this game but I am not buying the DLC. I started with FF VII but I have played all of the main games from 1 to 16 and Rebirth and Remake. I have not played 11 or 14.

    I have been gaming since the ATARI 2600. I grew up on Ultima, Wizardy and the infocom games for the PC. I do not know if I am just getting old but I can see the twitch reaction games that have taken over I cannot react to fast enough.

    I still do not know if I am going to platinum “Rebirth the mini game”. I really like the story but the side content is like 90% of the game. Every time I see Chad i have flash backs of “Hopeless “ from XIII. Don’t get me started on an AI creating another AI just to argue with and looks like him.

    At some point I will have leave gaming altogether and I hope my son will discover the games that I have bought over the years and would want to play them.

    • @lesstalkingmoregaming
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I hate the difficulty. It’s too easy…and it plays more like a movie.

    • @ManKing
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Loved the game. My only complaints were the lack of a magic system which would have added tremendous depth to the combat experience, the dull side quests, and no findable equipment and items of any value. Oh and it would have been cool to play as Cid or Joshua. The story was awesome and the combat was great (maybe because I actually learned and implemented abilities without relying on the timely rings, idk 🤷🏽‍♂️).

    • @buttertoast1146
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    While I don’t think it got to the highs they were hoping, it still did solid all around.

    • @adot9259
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I loved 16. I’ve been a fan of the series since the mid 90s and I skipped FF13, 14, and 15 because they just looked bad (or were a mmo). 16 brought me back. I loved the story and characters. The battle system was alright but I play FF for the story.

    • @TheSonicbuum
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The story was good but I pretty much disagree with all that at the start it’s the only final fantasy I will probably never play just cuz it’s not what I think of gameplay wise when I want to play final fantasy. Grant it nor did ff15.

    Again the story was great though

    • @DaDarknessXIII
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I don’t think anything went wrong with it. I thought it was great from start to finish.

    I do wish we expanded on some of the other characters that were villains though. I think their time ended too soon and fast and there was no lasting impact.

    Another thing is if we could have issued commands to the other party members as well but hey, over all, I still give the game a solid 8.7 out of 10z

    • @wawztzta8296
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    i hated the story honestly its dumb as rocks and has no depth

    • @chili015
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    We live in an era of society now where it’s very rare for people to agree on anything, including a video game. I don’t know that a game can ever be universally praised anymore… even Rebirth got hate.

    • @RolandMIA71
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Devil May Fantasy

    • @PointNGlitch
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    No. It’s a true FF game since FFX.

    • @Tarrot
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FF16 in many cases is good, but it’s arguably the worst FF in some regards.

    The equipment: This has, by far, the worst equipment system of any FF. Outside your starting accessories, about 90% of the accessories are, increase ability damage by 10%, or reduce cooldown time by 10%, roughly the same thing. There are no weapons that have any appreciable difference between damage and stagger. There is no equipment that has appreciable difference between HP and armor. You have one character, with effectively two stats, and barely any customization with the accessories outside a few pieces.

    The crafting: Basically, because of how garbage equipment upgrades were, and how you’d craft the best equipment to progress a few minutes into the story to be given better equipment than what you crafted, this was by far the worst and least rewarding crafting system of any FF.

    Exploration: Related, the open world sucks, to me, by far the worst open world. Due to the aforementioned equipment and crafting sucking, there is no incentive to go out and explore once all that set in. The little shinies that you pick up are a pittance of gold or some crafting stuff that’s functionally useless due to how bad crafting is or already having more than enough. Fighting mobs becomes annoying after a period of time, especially ones that have stagger bars and take a long time to take down for minimal rewards. 15’s open world in comparison was significantly better just because the stuff you found actually mattered.

    The Dungeons: You know how people constantly hold up FF13 as being a corridor simulator? 16 is significantly worse. Garland’s Castle, the very first dungeon in FF1, has more branching paths than any dungeons in 16. Seriously, go through a dungeon, map it on a 2D space, and you’ll find that it’s nothing but corridor-fight area-corridor-fight area-corridor-boss area, where if you’re lucky you’ll get two corridors that quickly wrap around to the same spot. Its obfuscated by the lack of a mini-map, intentionally I would imagine, but after a long period of time this wore on me

    Leveling: First, gold is useless outside they very early part of the game where you don’t have gold to replenish your potions and need to suicide to get health back. Second, leveling sucks when you get to the mid 40s, where it becomes such a massive grind that it disincentivizes you from leveling. The Eikon Skill system is nice at the start, but once you reach the mid-game, it becomes useless, because you’ll always have enough AP for whichever skills you want, and then eventually you’ll reach a plateau where you can mix/match between eikons, but there isn’t a steady progress. Compare this to say, FF12, where the LP system makes it so killing even low level mobs always benefits you, until the point you cap LP near the end of the game.

    The Hunts: There’s a point where I realized that every single hunt was just a reskin of a regular mob/boss, and basically the same mechanics with a couple twists thrown in. I didn’t hate this, but having played through 12, 13, and 15 shortly after, and even 10’s monster creation and Rebirth’s elite enemies, this just feels significantly less rewarding than other FF games.

    The Story’s Darkness: While I really like the story, there was a point where, I just couldn’t care anymore because of how dark everything was. Uncle Byron was by far the best character in the game because he was the only source of amusement in the entire game. I loved the characters, but it became hard to care when everything was, lets make everyone as miserable as fucking possible.

    And here’s the thing: I liked the combat, I loved the characters, I thought there were parts of the plot that were better than any other FF or game, where it peaked as high as any other game. But so much of the small stuff was just, horrible, to the point it dragged down the entire game for me.

    • @Lycox15
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    My problem with the game was that the majority of it was bland. The icon battles were hype and unique, but the majority out outside of that was just dull. The game wasn’t just visually gray, but tonally. Towns weren’t unique, character designs were dull, and the story was trying to take itself way too seriously, so it lacked a lot of the usual goofiness you’d run into in an FF game. Yoshi P didn’t even want Choco bo’s and Moogles.

    It’s so weird how much of a contrast it is compared to XIV, which has everything from every game, but also it’s own unique and hyper diverse identity.

    I played it solely because it’s a Final Fantasy game, but if it had any other name, and nobody told me how awesome the Icon fights were, I never would’ve touched it.

    • @trigunner6968
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I hate the title of this video

    • @esergio
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FF16 is not a bad game, but it is not a good Final Fantasy imo. I think it lacks a lot of what makes an FF game (parties, non-action combat, classes, etc) This game to me feels more of an action game with an FF skin/flavor, it should not have been a main entry.

    • @markalbers6766
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    After playing through FF7Rebirth, it makes FF16 look even worse in my eyes.

    There is no fun party dynamic or humor at all. Compare how you feel about Aerith to Jill by the end of the story.
    The combat is very simplistic (no elemental weaknesses or strategy really needed). And it doesn’t even let you play on hard to start.
    The open world areas are quite bland & empty.
    There is little RPG customization.
    You can’t enter many buildings and there aren’t many towns so you have little connection to the world.
    The Eikon battles are gorgeous but not particularly challenging & QTE-heavy.
    Its best characters are gone too early (Cid, Benedikta, Kupka).

    It’s not a bad game, and Clive is one of the best FF protagonists period. But there’s no way this cast & world will resonate with people like FF6, 7, 9, 10.

    • @wizcatcheslightning
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I loved FF16 and I hope Creative Studio 3 will be given the opportunity to work on FF17 because they can only go up!

    • @TheOaklandAthletics1989
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I watched the video front to back. Character models are copy paste from every generic looking JRPG you can name. Basically you solo the game with a boy and his dog. FF 7 remakes are the best thing square has put out in over a decade . I put the game down and picked up dragon quest and Xenoblade , I haven’t looked back. (Liked 👍)

    • @robyelsewhere5205
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Maybe don’t say “final fantasy 16” 30 times within the first minute, we know what game you’re talking about. I do love your content lol just a slight suggestion

    • @nahte123456
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Was it a failure? Not to my knowledge.
    That being said i don’t have a PS5 and i have no interest in a FF game that isn’t an RPG, 13 pushed my limits as is and I’m just not interested in anything else. It’s purely a me thing but i got into the series for the combat and I’m just not interested in it otherwise

    • @meteordaddy8638
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    It got nominated as one of the GOTY. That alone, speaks alot about the game. It was nicely done. As much as I dislike the battle system, it has a solid storyline and good experience overall. It is a good game.

    It’s just that haters are always the loud ones.

    • @ogun6464
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    16 was a slightly above average execution of a direction I don’t want. The world had tremendous potential, but it felt underbaked. Clive was a really good, but not great character. I really don’t want them chasing the action style, but that is my preference and clearly they want to focus on action. The underdeveloped side characters is sad. The icon fights are amazing, but that is the only stand out content. This game is fine, but its not what I want from FF. SE can keep being confused about under-performance while Atlus and others steal their lunch

    • @cykes5609
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    as a fan of character action games I loved 16
    as a fan of JRPG’s I was disappointed that the game wasn’t an RPG

    • @fionnmaccuill415
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Adored it

    • @mohammedallha61
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Ff16 had few strange developments choices
    One the quests were kind of not the best compared to other jrpg games
    Ff16 had the best cast of characters so if the quests had to do something with characters the game would be way way better
    Second . No elements or status effects were in the game which made the gameplay kinda of easy to broke some skills.
    Final I had no problem with just playing with Clive however it would have been nicer if we were able to play with other characters or at least give them combat command like his wolf.

    • @lazydgsf7429
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    It’s a shame people bag on 13. I hated 13 when it released too too but it’s the most challenging FF game and become one of my favorite. I just played it this year.

    16 felt dishonest to me. It’s not a real FF game.

    • @gregeichler5237
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Nothing went wrong. Still playing this game today, over 300 hours later. Ultimaniac is peak Video Gaming.

    • @retrobrandon
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I loved this video! I have my critiques of this game (the world was a bit too bleak, I missed some of that levity, and the exploration could have been more fun), but I loved this game. The story, characters, music, battles, were SO epic. I don’t want the next final fantasy to move on from this. I want it to take all the good and evolve. Because if you take this and address some of the critiques, maybe lighten the mood a bit, you will have a MASTERPIECE.

    • @plantasmus
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Simply put, the game was just incredibly boring. Sure, the cool bits were cool, but boring bits were REALLY boring.

    The combat system was fine, but it never evolved into anything, you just got more skills. The Arcade mode’s ranking system could’ve been a cool addition to regular combat; to spur you to do things as stylishly as possible, like in Devil May Cry. Also personally I hated the cinematic QTE stuff in fights. They really watered fights down and killed any hype for me. They were especially bad in Eikon fights. QTE’s aren’t inherently bad, but in XVI they were as pointless as it can get.

    • @BlazeRothschild
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FF16 had something special and amazing with Clive and Joshua’s relationship. It was one of the most interesting dynamics in all of gaming for me, and it was what was basically motivating me to keep playing in the first half of the game. The reunion was amazing. And then they dropped it. It was like the developers didn’t know where to take Clive and Joshua after the reunion. No explanation of why Joshua AVOIDED Clive the entire time. If it was because Joshua didn’t want to be near Clive after getting Ultima, Joshua certainly didn’t seem to mind that after the reunion. It was so bad I stopped playing after Clive met the Odin guy and just looked up spoilers. Clive and Joshua are the central characters to the story. They drove it. Started off amazing and then fell off.

    • @seagullphilosopher2173
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I am someone who really liked the 7 remakes but the mainline games have taken a significant downturn, i don’t think this is even up for debate. 13, 15 and 16 are among the worst in the series. That’s not to say they are terrible games but relative to 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12 there is a noticeable drop in quality. 15 was a very poor entry and maybe tied for 13 as the worst FF ever made. They have proven they can still make good final fantasy games.. albeit they are remakes but quality nonetheless

    • @vidarye5859
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Totally agree I love this game. Only reason it isn’t higher on my list for this gen is Rebirth

    • @bernardodelcast
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I think it’s just not a good game.
    I don’t care about changes, I was glad for them to actually make it an action game instead of half assing it.
    However, I think it fails at every level.

    -Big spoilers BTW-

    For one, it is very flat as an action game, you deal with all enemies in basically the same way. Nothing evolves the systems, there’s barely any progression in any mechanic other than different colored magic, and a +1 hitting stick.

    Likewise, the “open areas” are pretty but quite drab: there’s barely anything to find in them, and the actual navigation is often clunky and tedious.

    The story is another big failure for me. It’s all random coincidental storytelling, everyone just happened to be there! Theres a veneer of politics, but its really just aesthetics. There is no actual conflict or decision making. No back and forth no sense of the different world powers, just people brooding in a room without really saying anything – while a silly villain spouts poetics in the corner.

    In a similar way, Clive to me felt like a conflictless protagonist, he simply pushes forward without ever really evolving. They attempt to make us think he killed his brother, but defuse the question almost immediately. Is Cid right about destroying the crystals? I don’t care I’m doing it anyway. Should I collect all the eikons? I’m doing it anyway.

    Characters like Dion are barely characters too. I’m gay, so I was excited to see an officially gay character on ff. But the “my duty is more important than my love” trope is just boring, and it infects this whole game. No one has a personality beyond their duty. This is particularly clear with Jill and Joshua, they speak about their trauma, but they really only exist for the plot.

    Villains also fare very poorly, Kupka and Benedicta are almost shockingly shallow.
    Kupka particularly, devolves into a caricature, he was supposed to be a strategist!?

    (I will say, the titan boss fight is probably the highest point of the game and I thought it was spectacular in a technical level, and very fun to play)

    Finally the world and the story are some of the most heavy handed treatment of real world issues I have witnessed. Especially if you complete all the side quests, some of those “poignant” moments are frankly embarrassing (stone the kids, anyone?)

    I also take particular issues with the concept presented in the narrative, that the solution to fix racism is to “eliminate magic”.
    It would be like saying, to fix misogyny we must eliminate women.
    It was so insane I thought I was misunderstanding. But no, that’s Cid’s plan.

    Ff *should* change, it should be inventive. But change should be thoughtful and meaningful.
    Ff16 is not it.

    • @juancarlosrodriguez5022
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    RPGs are defined by beign story driven and by having growth mechanics for its characters.

    FFXVI fails on these aspects. Its story, on general terms as you’ve described it, seems well written, but in reality it was poorly executed and without heart.

    FFXVI has bad dialogues, weak characters that don’t mean anything for the gamer, a disastrous growth system for Clive, etc.

    I personally hated this game so much that had to suddenly stop playing it after the Jill volcano chapter, where she suddenly had to stay in the infirmary while we discovered that Otto had a daughter, who fell from the sky with more charisma and protagonism than what Jill could ever dream of having for herself, and turned Clive, now called Cid (as if Cid had been that memorable), into her fetch dog… I also hated the new recently appeared NPC, who was a strategic genious and turned into Cid’s advisor… Who the heck is that woman and where did she come from?

    I believe FFXVI was a game written by AI because it lacks heart in its execution and as a result it ends up with empty characters. How is it possible that Jill ended beign a weaker character than Otto’w daughter, a recently appeared NPC? What the hell haopened with Joshua and Clive’s relationship?

    The game tries to be grandious through its graohics and voice acting, but it’s poorly written and doesn’t manage to have meaning for the gamer un order ti keeo going forward with its story.

    Its gameplay is also weak, because it’s more of a smash fest, than a strategic gameplay… And there’s allways a strategic component in RPGs, wether they’re turn based or action based…

    The thing is that once Jill was relegated to the infirmary and autistic Clive became Otto’ss daughter fetch dog, I turned off the game and exchanged it at a local Gaming Store for Ratchet & Clank Rift Appart, which ended beign the best decision for my money, given that R&C is a great game with lovable characters, a cool story and great gameplay.

    F* Square Enix… I started loving RPGs because of FFVII OG, but since FFXII, imo, this company produces garbage games.

    • @beanlegume9965
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I thought it was good. Amazing voice acting, story was decent, characters were good (everyone wanted more out of Jill).
    The scenery was generally a bit bland, but I understand that it was supposed to draw inspiration from the England countryside.
    The final boss, and boss battles in general were good. I personally didn’t like the kaiju battles, but they looked amazing and were executed well.

    • @christaggart5687
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Second half was not as good. Quests were kinda lame, and story got dull

    • @ThamesCAE
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FF16 was definitely an S tier FF. But I can see why people say it doesn’t feel like FF combat wise, I think the devs should have included combat options that were defining on old titles like Fira-Firaga evolution, bio, poisona, dispel, haste… it feels like they could have integrated those options but opted for them not to be included. Oh, also the side quests, I can see why people hated them.
    Other than that, one of my top FFs for sure

    • @2mcgee12
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    16 was badass idc what no one says def made my top 5 easy

    • @DavidAmarante
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I haven’t played the game… maybe I will, some day… and I’m one of the fans who’d prefer the more traditional approach to the battles. I’m sure the story is interesting. FFs rarely let me down on that, but, at the same time, FOR ME, the gameplay plays a very important part in my interest in playing a game. In this case it played a decisive one. I’m not against the change… not at all. But It feels that the game is not for me, as an old fan os the series. And that’s all right. They are trying to reach a new audience and make the game more modern. They are right to do that, because they are a company and need to make money. I just hope they can somehow come up with a solution that includes both ways of playing the game some day.

    • @MoreLimitless_
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The game isn’t perfect, but I don’t feel that diminished what this game does so well, and how it harkens back to classic FF whilst providing a new gameplay experience for fans. I think it perfectly represents what FF as a franchise stands for even if it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. I certainly enjoyed what it brought to the table while keeping that spirit and feel of FF alive more than ever.

    • @AKABoondock19
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Still the only FF game I have never bought. And I never will. It has literally zero things i loved about Final Fantasy for over 20 years.

    • @litt420
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Absolute trash

    • @nishquikpops
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The more time passes and the more I think about it, the more I appreciate this game!

    • @heisdarkness7141
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I liked the game a lot but what really annoyed me about it was the gearing system, fetch quests, and lack of good rewards for exploring. In games like FF 4 and FF 6, hell even FF 9 exploring the dungeons usually resulted in getting better equipment.

    • @kennethrice323
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Gonna pre-face with that I haven’t played FFXVI (don’t have a PS5). But the game had some big hurdles before it even got released. I’ll list what I think they are below:

    1. Square-Enix has burned a lot of its good faith with fans with “lackluster” titles since FFX and even FFIX for some fans.
    2. PS5 is still a system not a lot of people have (see above).
    3. Games are now 70 USD or more so people are selective with purchases. I mean Zelda, Street Fighter 6, Diablo 4, Madden 24, Resident Evil 4 Remake, Jedi Survivor all dropped within a few months of XVI as well as…
    4. FFVII Rebirth being right around the corner. Most people probably skipped it to wait for Rebirth.
    5. Turn-based is still great for a lot of people and the departure hard for some to swallow. Especially when you have modern turn based JRPGS that are thriving like the Trails series.
    6. Fan-fare around the game was not large. I really didn’t see a lot of ads or videos about the game until maybe a month or 2 before launch and barely any after launch.

    • @irvyne6111
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    If it was a spinoff, I’d be all for it.
    But an action game has no business calling itself a numbered Final Fantasy.
    Also, apart from the awesome Kaiju battles and really excellent voice acting, the game is bogged down by so much boooooring backtracking and side quests.
    I didn’t hate FF16. Overall I’d give it like a 7/10. Definitely better than FF15.
    But the two of them have taken the series in a direction that I believe is completely at odds with what it was designed to be.
    And the whole dark, grim Game of Thrones setting doesn’t fit FF either. Final Fantasy is more like an anime. It’s freaking goofy a lot of the time. The FF7 remakes have nailed the tone a lot better. In fact, they basically did everything better.

    • @MahdiPandragon
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    In my opinion the gameplay is the weakest part, rpg element are really weak in ff16, and it feel like an action game more than an rpg. And I don’t feel it is going in the right direction for what I think an ff game should be, it was a little bit better than ff15 and a lot better than 13 but that is it. I finished it at release and unistalled it, and most likely will never play it again.

    • @ggee7551
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    To me, ff16 is the worst ff game ever
    The combat is so easy and repetitive that there’s absolutely no reason to switch between eikons, and there’s no reason to play smart and strategic

    The enemies are so slow, and they do no damage. There’s no reason to play stylishly and do combos on them

    All the bosses are the same. You just hit them a couple of times until they’re staggered, and then you do the strongest moves until they’re dead, just so you know I didn’t use any ring, and I have played on normal difficulty

    Overall, the combat is mindless, and button mashing, there’s no reason to play smart or stylish because the enemies aren’t fast and aggressive and won’t do much damage they’re attacks are so easy to dodge

    The biggest problem in this game is that it doesn’t force you into its mechanics, which is the most important thing in any game
    For example, in ff16, there’s a lot of eikon abilities, but you can stick to one eikon for the whole game. Sometimes, I forget that there’s other eikon abilities
    The game should force me to switch between them mid combat, like in devil may cry in devil may cry you’ll need to switch weapons mid combat because the enemies are fast and aggressive

    • @JWSoul
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Daring to take risks ? More like trying to appeal to audiences not interested. Sorry i do not take your take that Turn Based is dead because HURR DURRR try to appeal to people who arnt that interested. Badur’s Gate 3 proved that some methods of combat are far from dead. FF16 trop me was a weak FF bland side quests and content and areas that felt more like an MMORPG than a single player RPG. It is an ok if not great but it isnt excellent.

    As for FF i think the Devs are missing the mark and FF will continue to die unless they go back to their roots. All FF is now is another 3rd person action game maker. I didnt even buy the latest FF& remake and i may never buy it.

    • @RedZ-Zaraki
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I dunno man, I just got bored of it. It’s currently the only game I’ve not completed, and it’s bugging me a bit. Every time I go to stick it on so I can complete it, I find myself not 😅🤦‍♂️

    • @madkaiser4887
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Personally I still really love this game,

    And I think it still reaches some of the highest highs for the series both classic and modern, even if at times does hit some low lows on par with the some of the more recent entries.

    Obviously while I know FF7 Rebirth and its direction (minus the story, no hate) is probably the more preferred approach when moving the series forward. But even then I wouldn’t mind if a new FF game or even a new IP that Yoshi P and Creative Studio 3 would take what worked and didn’t work in this and improve upon it. As there’s a solid foundation I feel with this game.

    • @makaveliandcheese
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I wish this video was longer ff 15 fell short for me and ff 12 and 10 were more complex to me

    • @grahfkarate1799
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I’m one of the haters. I just didn’t get it I guess. I only have FF13 lower on my FF scale.

    • @lawless130
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Started off really enjoying it and my opinion rapidly changed during the 2nd half of the game. These were my main issues.
    Bleak & Bland world setting, boring side content, uninteresting villain, lack of party, lack of interesting side characters and there was no worthwhile exploration in the game. It missed many key features of a great final fantasy.

    • @WesleyWyndam-Pryce
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I mostly liked it, but there’s some issues that bug me now looking back.

    The combat was not my cup of tea, and the side quests were way too many and shouldn’t have been required. We could have gone with maybe three well thought out minigames. Also, the party members should have been switchable with more material given to Jill, especially. I love the storytelling, though maybe a wee too heavy on the cut scenes.

    The more I think about it, l am finding a lot of issues. That’s okay though. It’s fine for what it is, but I’m more into the early games. I enjoyed the Pixel Remasters in 2023 more than 16.

    • @BowmansWorld
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Ff16 is a masterpiece.

    • @BowmansWorld
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    No it wasnt a failure u bozo and it sold more than 7 rebirth. Im sick of the 16 slander.

    • @terrorcomplainssometimes3969
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Final fantasy 16 to me was a great addition, the game went back to the old story style, with a bit of a change in battle system. Always imagined action based final fantasy 4 and 16 only made me want it more. To me final fantasy was not a battle system, it was certain familiar aspects returning to the series

    • @AB-cr1cu
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    i learned to enjoy the games for what they are, instead of complaining for what i think i want them to be.
    so what i think of FF16, i will say this :
    i give FF16 10/10 Because of the narrative of the game, the personal history of the dominants and how it plays out to move the the game story.
    and they mange to capture the right emotion in the eikon vs eikon battles in the righit time.
    as for the ending they give two interpretation without replaying the game if you do the side quests in the end, is Clive alive ?, who wrote the book ?…, you don’t see this in a videogames.
    Clive and Jill relationship is grounded and real like the most not “HOLLYWOOD TYPE DRAMA,” it may be boring to 90% of people but…
    *i saw a lot of criticism that Jill is bland and boring, i guess they Tifa fans 🤣🤣🤣,i think Jill character design done well, it’s modest yet attractive at the same time without being sexualized, as for her personally you don’t see her act desperate for Clive attention, just because she was not put into situation to push back agains Clive that does not mean that she is a side character.

    • @dakotawinston7677
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    People today are just incredibly cynical. Unfortunate and true.

    • @GoGetMarked
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Short story: No.

    • @sixsixjd
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Final fantasy XVI was ace. Haters are gonna hate. I loved the game it was beautiful and the story was fantastic, i love that we had a different style of final fantasy that we haven’t seen for a long time!

    • @kjh4496
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    The problem with 16 is it’s FF Lite trying to cater to a fanbase that doesn’t like FF so they tried to make it more casual.

    The gameplay is the nail in the coffin and is completely at odds with the world and story.

    FF used to be an innovator but now it’s desperately reaching for trends in an attempt to stand next to much bigger franchises and it’s failing objectively according to the poor sales.

    • @CoolerCream
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I mean I liked XVI but I felt like it missed something that a don’t really know. Like something that FF7 Remake had but XVI didn’t but at the same time Remake was missing some exploration but Rebirth fixed it.

    • @kermitwithamustache3885
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    I wouldn’t say it was a failure, but it’s quite underwhelming both as an rpg and a hack n slash game knowing just how many talented people worked on this
    For something that regularly gets compared to the likes of Devil May Cry and Kingdom Hearts, I found the combat and enemy design, especially bosses to be quite limited and repetitive.

    I’m still not a big fan of the ending, the main villain, how some of the characters were handled, the lack of rewarding exploration and RPG mechanics, the MMO style fetch quests that added very little beside stopping the pacing of the story to a halt, Clive’s normal sword combo strings being so limited, Ifrits moveset being *even* more limited, and the use of a mechanic as unengaging as cooldowns in a fast paced hack n slash game

    I can admit it is a well made and polished game that succeeded at some of things it tried to do
    I liked most of the cast and some of the themes were compelling

    Making you pay $25 DLC for a $70 game also rubbed me off the wrong way, just because it is normalized in modern gaming didn’t make it any better, especially since it added such little content compared to some of the other DLC from Square Enix for their games like KH3 or FFOrigins, i expected them to be better than this

    i do believe this is a fairly high quality game that a lot of people would enjoy, I just still find it aggressively middle of the road both as a JRPG and a hack n slash game

    • @gib84gaming4
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Absolutely 100% not.
    You have pretty much nailed it with this vid 👊
    Its a shame that it gets so much hate 🤷‍♂️

    • @LanzTheMaster
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    Fantastic video. Love XVI

    • @chickenfillets
    • 2024年 7月 03日 11:26am

    FFXVI is a banger. Tbh I’m really looking forward to it coming to Steam….