Square Enix to stop PlayStation exclusivity after PS5-exclusive FF16 & FF7 Rebirth sales disappoint
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Square Enix really shot themselves in the foot by making their biggest releases PS5 exclusive. They didn’t perform poorly, but they didn’t meet sales targets, which is bound to happen when you limit your audience base while trying to make up for massive budgets. Everyone wins with their newfound commitment to make their future major releases multiplatform.
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Cut the exclusivity crap and set realistic financial goals, there you go SE, problem solved. Betting on twos games to solved all of the bombed games is laughable. Trying to attract investors while setting unrealistic goal only means losses, but the real ppl taking the hit are the ground floor crews, not those execs. Stop giving us what we gamers don’t want. we vote with our wallets, SE learn this the hard way.
But will they commit to making cross platform mobile games!!!!! They are so scared of making cross platform titles upsetting
Sony would be sitting on a gold mine if they would have Square Enix remake Legend of Dragoon with as detailed an open world as Rebirth
Also may I add that there are way more PC gamers than console.
I thought final fantasy 16 met expectations for square and as of now we still haven’t heard sales numbers on rebirth. I also feel like square is still trying to recover from past fumbles like avengers and Babylons fall. I’m whatever with the whole exclusive rather it was a game only on ps or only switch cool more people can play them. Of course I have a feeling the games will take longer to come out but will see. Would love to see octopath traveler 1 finally show up on PlayStation.
Well, yet again. These should have been released on PC as well. I have no problem waiting for it to come to PC but they really need to start releasing them AT THE SAME TIME. Most gamers forget and move on to something else by the time it releases for PC.
“Curb your Expectations, Square Enix.”
I am not surprised the price of a digital download is criminal
Exclusive games are what helped the competitor platforms grow as it would push them to have their own unique exclusives (either in-house studios or 3rd party studios). Also exclusive games from 3rd party studios for PlayStation, are what made playstation unique and special, which helped in sales of the console as well as the games. Same can be said for XBOX. Exclusivity worked back then, but considering the cost of video game development now, exclusive games wouldn’t be viable anymore for the studios, because there’s not enough profit to be made.
Video game development costs really need to go back down. Spending £/$100m+ just to make a single game just seems crazy to me. This really needs to be investigated as to why.
The weird thing is… This probably didn’t seem like a bad idea a few years ago. PS4 did amazingly, so exclusivity for it’s follow-up probably seemed like it could work.
And then the myriad problems of this generation began to rear their ugly head, and only NOW does it seem obvious in hindsight.
Wow you mean limiting the players would mean less sells?!
Exclusives are bad for Xbox, yet this happened, lol.
Tables have turned.
All they gotta do, is just re-release classics like XenoGears, Parasite eve, Vagrant Story etc on all platforms.
Doesn’t even need to be a remastered, just port the ps1 version, sell it 15$ Dumb folks like me will still buy even tho they are easily emulated. And Profit.
Stop using takashi mochhizuki, all he does is spread misinformation!
FF7 part three gunna be a PS5 EXCLUSIVE!!!!!
You’re using Bloomberg as a source…SMH
There games gunna sell more on PS and Nintendo, putting games on Xbox is a waste!
Sony and SE are gunna keep doing deals!
Finally, I stopped caring about consoles years ago, but couldn’t play this because I only have a gaming laptop. Pissed when I found out I couldn’t even purchase either. Exclusivity is a dead concept
I like how executives justify their stupidly greedy salaries by claiming they have the risk of responsibility but then always shove the responsibility of their decisions on the lower employees who get laid off. Really need to regulate the 10%. If you can’t fail then you don’t deserve a high salary.
“Square Enix” should upset with themselves. Exclusivity has nothing to do with their sales at all. Even having a game on all platforms won’t guarantee an increase of sales. It’s not a guarantee that people are going to buy your product all the time…get with the times share holders.
loved guardians of the galaxy great game
Also, they need to get away from Sony anyway. Get away from Sony’s censorship.
I want to play all those games. I’m just waiting for them to come out on pc. Especially the ff7 remake.
No surprise here.. shouldve released for everyone to play.. they chose the bed and now must lie in it
Reminder that Square stained the Final fantasy brand for a decade. The 13 Trilogy bomb and 15 was an unfinished mess that needed DLC and animes just to flesh out its story and 5 main characters.
4:00 “sharing game making how-how…” ?
could it be that they meant “know-how”?
I have PS5, I completed FFVII Rebirth on it. But man wish I could play it on my PC, I could have enjoyed it with much better graphic and with better FPS.
Their prices are way to high down here to… but that’s going on with all japanese games latelly, don’t know if it’s tax or some messed up conversion or both, but it’s getting quite hard to buy japanese games, it’s like, over (br)R$275,00 on sale
Hey whatever it takes to keep the boat afloat 🤷♂️ release them all for Xbox and pc also
About time square stopped with exclusivity
Square learns that selling in 1 platform is a dumbass idea.
This could be signs of a paradigm shift for the better. I have been tired of Sony’s double standards/censorship/hypocrisy. If Capcom and Sony just aim for releases on PC the same time as PS5+…then maybe Sony might get their head out of their asses and improve. If not, well it wouldnt be the first console to die because they failed to adapt.
I do pray they dont try to port FF7RM and similar titles to switch. If I wanted to play the pixelated version of the game, I’d go back to the original.
Platform/Console exclusivity is a joke. No one wants that shit.
easy fix to this, make a proper Chrono Trigger sequel and make it multi platform
They waited way too long
we need DRAGONBORN ACT III
I don’t think they are getting the memo and they won’t get it until they are having their final fantasy if you will. They keep spamming out action games because of some stupid marketing meta but actually, they left the goal open so that other turn based games can kick their ass.
You know why we don’t get good new games it’s because people keep buying “remasters” & “remakes” it’s yalls fault
I’m just not a fan of the gameplay of the latest FF 12 was the peak, 13 was ok but then it started to decline with 15, If I wanted to play and action game or action RPG, I would be playing a different franchise.
This will add nothing FF stocks have been in decline because of stupidity of the games I couldn’t finish FF7 remake so yaaak
FF16 was a good game but FF7 rebirth is one of the best game in recent years period, I can’t understand why it was not a massive success!
It doesn’t matter if it was multiplatform or otherwise i just hope his will not affect the franchise.
I didnt buy FFR on ps5 bc it sucked and under powered compared to how much better it would be on PC/Steam
Which makes me question how nintendo still is able to make a profit from their exclusives. While the others struggle
Won’t change nothing. Xbox gamers don’t buy games. 3rd sales show that. Sales of final fantasy on Xbox are less then 9%. The games aren’t going to gp…
covids long gone, ppl arent playing games as much, so the incentive to be the Most accessible game for casuals with low attention spans who want quick fix endophin dumps, leaves youvwith a GENERIC GAME in a SEA of GENERIC GAMES. That Niche group who so loved your style of games, is gone. Paradox will learn this too. wheres city skylines 2 for xbox. most fun ive had in a longtime is on stardew valley. wtf lol
where THE FK is our NEW TACTICS game huh. no more turn based shallow kiddie fkin tactics games for hand helds. pos company. they dont like money ? They dont act like they do. instead they wanna bring pos dragons quest.
i dont care anymore, they dont make great games like they used to. they changed the core mechanics of ff7 to what, bring in noob casuals ? lazy fickle customers ???? pos Square Enix is money hungry just like EA blizard etc
What did you expect it’s on one console and the ps5 isn’t backwards compatible with ps4 or below, the games made for the ps5 that is, FF rebirth and FF16 both exlusive to only a ps5 will limit the sales and income , what did you expect SquareEnix?? Not to mention how FF16 isn’t really a FF game anymore and becamre more of a devil may cry style, that’s on you Square again.
Ah as expected. Maybe they also shouldn’t have released the games in separate years and intervals. I nearly lost interest, so if I did…pretty sure people waiting for a story that most people know today. Not the best marketing move. Should have been released all at once. Also, hard mode sucks. I’m nearly giving up since this crap is extremely unbeatable and if I do beat it, I don’t want to spend another 6 hours getting nowhere.
LMAO do publishers hate money now?
I think I speak for a lot of PC players, but Square has shot themselves in the foot and have clearly shown that they care more about partnerships with executives and not PC consumers. Don’t worry. Even if they release their games on PC, we won’t be looking for it. You’ve lost our interest. Your executives can go buy it.
Lets be honest jst releasing on Playstation alone was the nail in the coffin weather most people play on Playstation, its obvious its not enough to sustain certain games. Like how are they surprised its doing bad sales wise when you onlg released it on only what platform you have to wonder😂🤦♂️
Are we reaching the beginning of the stage where platform exclusives will become a thing of the past?
I hope they release both for Xbox cause I love FF but exclusivelity is so lame and annoying. I get it when it’s a Sony made and published game and Microsoft, etc. 3rd party though, why miss out on potential money aka more systems and potential fans? So we’ll see…. Although I know Square did the same thing in past with the Awesome DUES Ex mankind divided it didn’t meet its internal sales goals, and they ended up selling the game off to a company whom then closed 😢
Its not their fault really. Its just ps5 dont have a good game that will makes people buy it. Like bloodborne for the ps4 before
I don’t see a problem putting the game on other systems
Square Enix expections is for everyone who owns a PlayStation 5 to buy the game.
game companies: *sells games for $120+* WHY AREN’T WE SELLING MORE UNITS?????
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By Square Enix Logic, Mario and Zelda should go third party!
Ff16 and rebirth isn’t even released yet
A lot of brain-dead takes in here:
1. Square Enix aren’t stopping PS5 exclusivity for games in development that are being funded by PlayStation. People need to stop being brain-dead and understand why a PlayStation-funded game would be PlayStation-only OR PlayStation-PC-only.
2. Square Enix cannot magically make their games sell on a dead platform for software (Xbox) and a platform that does not have a massive appetite for single-player Final Fantasy games (PC). People need to stop being brain-dead and look at the past sales performance of FF games on non-PlayStation platforms. For the love of God, try to remember that these companies are businesses that want and need to make money. If an Xbox/PC version costs them $32M and they don’t expect to make that money back, why would they port to those platforms? I promise you if you use your brain it will all make sense. Think about the sales potential of their games on platforms that have a history of not buying their ‘main’ games. If the numbers for Xbox and PC are all pointing to financial losses, why would they — a business — step on the gas and crash straight into red ink? Just think about it.
3. Square Enix can’t magically make their games run on a severely underpowered platform (Switch) and radically different platforms (iOS and Android). People need to stop being brain-dead and understand why they can’t magically ‘port’ 100GB+ games to platforms that barely support 1080p resolutions. Just think about it and it will make sense.
4. Square Enix’s internal sales projections are horrendously unrealistic for PlayStation 5. The PS5 has about half the installbase of the PS4. Expecting a 60M platform to deliver better software results than a 117M platform is unrealistic.
We’ve gotta stop being dummies and actually understand why these businesses make the decisions they make.
If they didn’t include minigame after minigame after minigame after minigame after minigame in FF7 rebirth, it may have sold better.
Seriously, enough minigames.
Just be clear when squaring it stops publishing shitty fucking games they might make more money
Seriously, phone stars phone stars required PlayStation plus to play right but then it was given as a free monthly game to PlayStation plus users so how the fuck could it not meet expectations free to play and nobody played it tell you something about the game it’s a shit game a stupid ass fucking concept what more thought that was going to be a popular game yet another cash app delivery mechanism that failed because that’s all phone stars is It’s just a game that attaches you to a cash app so that you’ll buy cosmetics and shit I mean, for instance you can buy cosmetics to change the color of your phone phone that the premise the basis of this game and they unhappy with the revenue generated when the entire game isa cash shop
SquareEnix judging their best games off of their own poor decision making. They published multiple titles that have failed the mark and think it’s FF16 and FF7R? Their biggest losses come from Marvel Avengers and Babylon’s Fall. So they wishfully thought the FF titles were going to make up for their bad mistakes? This generation of Gamers need to realize that some exclusivity is required, it’s a driving force for innovation. It’s not to exclude an entire player base section. Don’t expect current contract licensed games to all of a sudden become multiplatform either.
And it’s going down.. shame
Expectations are just wishful thinking there’s no math or science involved in expectation. There’s no way to predict five or six years in advance how your game is going to come out it’s not possible you’re not God like you don’t have presents. You have no idea. Hell you have no idea what the gaming industries even gonna look like in six years I don’t know how long for instance Final Fantasy 16 took to develop, but it was almost certainly at least five year project, there’s no way to guess how that’s gonna turn out anyone who says they can is full of shit so you know you do your best and how it turns out is how it turns out hopefully for the hundreds of millions just spent you make that money back in the first week But like anything new motion franchise game in any franchise or a new franchise they’re always gambles you take a shot presume things in and make it attractive to the player bases but if you fail, it’s just a failure. It might be $100 million failure but still that’s what it is, that’s what for smoking was
Hi dog, I played Final Fantasy 16. The trial and I thought it was way too much dialogue out of action when there was action. It was pretty good. The graphics were good. The performance was good, but it’s just another single player game in a long drawn out franchise full of single player game, work into reworking Final Fantasy 14 giving it the same graphics levels a better voice, active story something where I don’t have to sit there and quick dialogues you know something elder scrolls online esq shit, single game no matter how pretty the combat. It’s just a limited chance of being successful come on you’re not even mentioning or an object failure.
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didnt put it on pc and it fails shocking. it’s almost like they could recover that in 5 seconds by putting it all on steam
No doubt about about Final Fantasy 16 high-quality game just not popular. Doesn’t have shit to do with that being exclusive on PlayStation and it isn’t because of those two games either they’re just making excuses to shareholder. They had a terrible year with white white very badly received games some of them like for spoken shit game I mean bullshit show of a game, final fantasy seven is nothing but a remake I’ll be at home according to all reviews a good remake, but it’s a remake of a game Final Fantasy 16. I don’t know why that one was badly received, but all of those games were badly received. They would’ve been for spoken, for instance going to be a shit game on any platform, the shit game it’s still gonna be a shit game on Xbox. It’s gonna be a shit game everywhere. Doesn’t have anything to do with exclusivity. It’s just a shit game. They’re all badly game and the company lost money and in every situation of the day about why you point fingers that’s what corporate America does, never accept blame you never say well we put out a shit game and we made no money on it. You don’t say that because you get fired over that shit you try to find a viable excuse or someone you can point the finger at some reason and in this case they’re using PlayStation exclusivitywhen I believe they’ve only ever had sex five or six exclusive games that PlayStation out of the 40 or 50 how many of those were shit games that failed the bottom line is you make a shit game it doesn’t matter what platform is on it’s still going to fail
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You onlyc4 fts bro
Who would’ve thought that selling a game in a console that no one owns is going to make people not buy it.
Listen if these people would come down from their “clouds” and see that a lot of people are disillusioned with a lot of video games due to shitty releases of games that could be great and expecting people to spend thousands of dollars on consoles and video games…ike he said with the decline of the economy and prices going up…how do they expect to just go out of our way to spend $60-$150 on a game that is mediocre to ok with a good chunk of us having to spend that much just to survive with expensive groceries and bills. Its ridiculous
Square enix doesn’t know how to tell new interesting sorties anymore
Just sell on all platforms
I’m sorry, but so far, FF7 Rebirth is hands down game of the year. Facts.
well really ff7 rebirth wasnt the FULL COMPLETE FF7 so i myself didnt purchase nor still havent purchased because i want the FULL GAME not a episodic to be added later
I’ve never understood why people think exclusivity is a good thing. It limits the reach of a game. If you really enjoy a game, why would you want less people to experience it?
This would be great, I have not bought FFVII Rebirth yet because I am waiting for the PC release. I used to just buy the playstation game and then if it came to PC I would buy it again but these days I just can’t afford to buy games twice over and I know I am going to break down and get the PC release regardless so this would be great. I still have not played God Of War Ragnarok because I am waiting for a PC release and it is very frustrating that it has not come to PC yet. The last games I purchased on Playstation were Ghost of Tsushima and God of War.
NO GAMES, I DONT KNOW WHY, THERES NOTHING TO PLAY ON MY PS5
if rebirth wasnt exclusive i would have been wanting to play it day 1 on pc
Yeah I think catering to the shareholders left to bad decisions like the marvel live service flop. Those were biggest problems. Final Fantasy did well. It was unrealistic expectations across the board. Square is getting paid a ton for a one year exclusivity. Highly doubt that is the problem here
When will these corpos realize people don’t poop out money
Nah, I personally think it’s because they think the “3 disk” released would work, in a world where our attention span last shorter than a male japanese pornstar hold their ejaculation on-set.
Square Enix acts like a 40 years old milf milking an overworked office worker’s jizz. What did they expect, a satisfying ending?
Now they got desperate enough to open their “product” to EVERYONE.
the problem with squenix and thier games are 2 fold. first, they probably expect the revenue from their games to be too high, they are not happy with profit, they probably want massive profit. Second, they dont know how to write a story and the remakes suffered so much from it. FF7 remake and rebirth are beautiful games, and the gameplay is very good but the story is so bad its a joke, its like a carricature. ppl like sephiroth so put him at the begining of the game, sepiroth has an iconic scene in fire so put that same scene in the begining of the game. ppl liked the story, so lets make it different and confusing so no one really know we have no idea what we are doing. ppl like zack, so just shove it in there too. In the end, its ok to change the story, if its going to be a as good or better one, but what we got is a confusing mess with no respect for the actual game, and on top of that they shove the lore of their gatcha scammy mobile game. Squenix is about short term, all and I say ALL of their games have been underperforming because of stupid decisions.
This is also PlayStation fault. Why would you buy a slim model. Even Sony is going to release the PS5 PRO this holiday season. The Smart ldea should have been . To make the slim version affordable and a reason for people doesn’t want to have a pro consle .
Square Enix is bad at marketing but make great games. Crisis core. Ff7 remake, 77f rebirth , ff7 interlude? How the hell are new fans supoosed to understand all the title differences ? They all sound like the same game and 100dollar dlc extensions…
We’ve been known foamstars is coming to other platforms in August due to disclaimers on their trailers, and i really hope it does well there because it’s one ot the swaggiest and funniest shooters I’ve played in a bit, and I don’t want it to die do soon when every update has been s banger. They listened to the community with constant updates fixing bugs and issues, they even fixed their overpriced microtransactions, lowering prices of all of em and that kind of communication and action deserves to succeed in a gaming world that has so many companies ignoring their player base
The PS5 is dead. You heard it here first. Sony and Microsoft will bow out of the console wars either this gen or possibly 1 more. Nintendo has won.
Square lost their way after Advent Children came out.
Square Enix releases literally any game: “This game failed to meet our unrealistic expectations.”
To be honest it’s been a long time since I truly loved a FF game, and the FF7 Remake is just garbage in my opinion, know some people love it and that’s fine but I detest it, so it may not be so much platform exclusivity as just disappointing games, because user and critic reviews are two metrics, yes, but so are sales. That being said when you’re “On _____ only” and your company name isn’t Nintendo, then you might have a few problems with sales and when you’re a 3rd party doing it…then “TF were you thinking?!?!?”
They definitely should have had sinultaneous pc releases for their latest titles. XBox wouldn’t have been any help though. Not enough consoles on that front and XBox gamers are notorious for not buying games.
Investors should already disappointed by way of their terrible investment decisions. All that web3 ai shite was not poppin’. They can still make the Dissidia game fans were asking for. They already have the character models.
While it makes sense that exclusivity hurts sales, I also wonder how much the sales were hurt by the shift in style of game that FF7R and FF16 took.
I hope they dont release it first on Epic now aswell then… It sucks to wait another year after ps exclusivity ends for them to release on PC.. (Steam)
Square Enix is just a massive disappointment to all their fans. They’ve repeatedly done so many things that were against their loyal fanbase’s interests. The PC market is so much more worth it than consoles are nowadays.
Jee its almost like they need to branch out instead of strictly make it for one console. To get more sales. They tried doing it with kingdom hearts but that failed on the switch.
All those exclusive suck. I’ve always wanted to play for forza… ,but I refuse to own a microsoft xbox
Hopefully their Switch exclusives also come to PlayStation and Xbox.
Does anyone play their mobile games? I think getting rid of the excluvity is to cover the cost of the mobile games nobody plays and their major push for a live service that will not do well.
Lmfao it really took them this long to realize they’ve been limiting their source of income?
Foamstars was just a crappy splatoon rip off that was never gonna sell copies nor microtransactions cuz its just a copy of splatoon which also didn’t sell very well in the west. On top of the fact that no one is mentioning forsaken being utterly trash. While being on all platforms benefits somewhat doesn’t it also cost more to put them on multiple platforms and if you don’t grab a handful you wasted money? Also I think FF16 was overrated game was basically just a 12 hour movie. First time playing a FF game.
Hahahahahaha
For me, the straw that broke the camels back was when they made Street Fighter 5 a PlayStation exclusive. I was so livid and have been anti console exclusives ever since. If it’s 1st party then fine, but 3rd party published games should never be exclusive. Phil was at least right on this aspect
its almost as if exclusivity only works as a marketing strategy if every company is doing it…
Exclusives make sense if the console maker put their own money into a project (IE, Bayonetta with Nintendo. Which I know is contentious, but do you think we would have gotten 2 and 3 from Platinum without Nintendo or someone footing the bill?)
It doesn’t make sense when it’s something like Square-Enix. Fine, contracts, I get it, those are a headache unto themselves, but they released their older FF games on Steam, they ought to have the metric to know it would be stupid gating 16 and Rebirth to PS5.
Sony with their titanic mass censorship, licensing of voices and weird agreements has lead us to this point. It’s fitting this should end this way. SE sold its soul to the devil… and now they want to get it back. They aren’t the only AAA developer kicking themselves over this issue right now i’m sure. **cough**StellarBlade**cough*cough. Lol.
Finally Can’t wait for the ports to come in Xbox/PC/and probably Switch.
Im sure it sold fine. They just want more bc thats what they’re used to
I would’ve bought day one if released on steam… now I just wait for the game to eventually come out on pc.
Console gaming is becoming antiquated. The gaming market is saturated with PCs, so there’s no point for consumers to buy a console unless their too impatient to wait for the PC release of a game. And people have less money to spare because of greedflation across all industries, meaning fewer people are willing to pay the price of indulging in that luxury of impatience.
It was an excellent decision for Squaresoft to divorce from Nintendo and deal with Sony nearly 30 years ago, but the market landscape has changed dramatically since then. It’s time to pivot again. This will hurt Sony, but this is because Sony has also failed to adapt to the current market. Sony needs to make some major changes to continue being relevant; maybe transition from being a console manufacturer to be a game publisher like SEGA became, or manufacture gpus/modular pc prebuilds, or develop a hybrid console that can compete fiercely against Nintendo Switch.
I would have bought and played FF16 but I don’t have a PS5, I’m hyped for Dawntrail though!
Well I mean EA has implemented ads in the past and so well in fact that I dont think anyone has mentioned it. But if anyone has played NFS Underground 2, OG Most Wanted, Burnout 3 or above, they all had in game ads as billboards. I don’t remember anyone complaining about those. So just an example of implementation done well.
*Laughs in Tidus”
Somebody avoiding talking about Assassin’s Creed
squareenix : how in the hell we dont have at least 10m sales with our games BEING ONLY on ps5 at release ??
i wonder why, maybe it because they did not release them on xbox and pc too?
but yeah go ahead, take your few millions sony gave ya, right LUL
“We want to invite you to our How How Pow-Wow” 😂
In the world of finance, this is called diversification, which helps mitigate risk by spreading things out so that everything isn’t in one location.
If only sony understood how much more money they can make by ending exclusivity deals because the die hard fans are going to buy a playstation anyway
I get Sony pays them for the exclusive deal, but its essentially cutting your profits of sales in half since your only catering to 1 clientele instead of the wide market that is PC and console.
can’t wait to see it on xbox
Considering that PC has surpassed console gaming as a whole in market share, it would be just stupid to not release there for any game.
A good example of this is helldiver’s 2 which is published by Sony, there are more PC players than there are PS players
That means that Yoshi-P can finally share some of his “secrets” with the rest of his company. And by “secrets”, I mean that the secret ingredient is always love. 💌
I know this has probably nothing to do with this, but the naming convention for the FF7 remakes have always bugged me. FF7 Remake Intergrade and FF7 Rebirth are too interchangeable and frankly confusing for people new to the series. When I first saw the name Rebirth, I actually thought it was a reboot of Remake. I had to do research to find out it was a sequel. Why not just simply call it FF7 Remake Part I/II?
I guess my point is I love Square Enix but they make some unnecessarily weird choices sometimes 🤷♂️
SQUEENIX
I would have bought both FF7 Rebirth and FF16 had they came out on Series X. I only buy one system a generation they are getting too expensive.
I swear with FF16 it changes every few days. Sometimes it met expectations. Then two days later it didn’t. Then they were satisfied again. And then it failed again the next day.
FF7 Rebirth as much as like there is 2 much shit in it woky woky.. and i think the throw off for users is that this is also not the final game as it was with the first part where we where disapointed what this will be split game. I bought rebirth but not gonna buy 3 part basicly i think number will go down more but who knows 😉
Exclusivity was never my thing. Good riddance!
If Square Enix still wants to double down on NFTs, they’ll need every platform they can sell their dumb products on
Lol this guy didnt quit after he got roasted to high heaven for the yakuza crap?
Love to see Sony taking Ls
exclusivity is the worse thing about consoles
they both didn’t sell 60 milion copies so they underperformed…
In today’s world, there’s no reason to have platform exclusive titles. It limits sales and exposure to a wild range of gamers who would otherwise enjoy and play those games. The only company that can get away with that is Nintendo, their consoles are built specifically for their titles bc they’re pretty much useless for any other titles that are from outside
the only reason Nintendo gets away with exclusivity is because of how many huge titles are exclusive to the platform. It’s too late for Playstation and XBOX to get in on that.
as a ps fan, good, exclusives suck. thanks to exclusivity I can’t enjoy es6 on my couch.
Maybe FF7 should have been an actual remake instead of turning it into KH4
third party devs making their games exclusive to one paltform has got to be one of the most stupid decisions ive ever seen lmao
When you walk into a restaurant and theres piles of crumbs all over the floor and you walk up to the register : “daddys here he heard you were a dirty girl and needed a spanking”.
The only problem I see here is that SE wanted these games to make every single amount of monumental money the world had to offer within 3 days of releasing, and because they didn’t they’re flops to them. It’s almost like SE doesn’t realise these games will never stop being available to buy or make money for just existing.
(also it would help if these games were genuinely good, i.e. if your game is genuinely good, people WILL buy it no matter what)
I love how they are blaming FF16 and FF7: Rebirth, two games which actually sold, and are not blaming Forespoken and Marvel’s Avengers, two gigantic flops, for the loss of revenue.
Maybe if they didn’t make it a PS5 exclusive? Not enough people have a PS5 even some games that go multiplatform don’t even go the distance
SE should also look at quality issues causing users to stop buying their games with crap like Forspoken and Marvels Avengers. I don’t necessarily think it is a PS5 exclusive issue since they’ve done well with it before, but it’s good to see it possibly pushing for more platforms. Also, there was controversy around FF16’s direction which may have soured sales. I personally got bored with FF16 and never finished it.
I loved FF7 originally; I am in the demographic that would have enjoyed a remake. But, I am not going to pay multiple game prices for a single game cut into chunks. So it costs a lot of money? Not my problem; and apparently i’m not the only one unwilling to foot the bill. Should’ve figured out a better way.
SE just has to temper and lower their expectations at this point.
While the news about FF7 sales is disappointing, the news about Square Enix pulling out of exclusivity is fantastic! Stop releasing exclusives on PS5, and sell your games on all platforms. I was under the impression that Sony paid very well, to keep these games only on PlayStation. We now know that Sony is not paying enough, and it’s sad. Exclusives do not benefit anyone, except for the company your game is on. Sony doesn’t care about their publishers and the studios under them. All Sony PlayStation cares about, is having exclusives games on their console only, so that they can sell more consoles and get more PlayStation Plus Subscribers. Time after time, we continue to see publishers with incredible studios continue to lose money, and Sony knows it. In my opinion, the only exclusives games for a consoles, should only come from studios who are owned by the console brand, such as PlayStation, Xbox, or Nintendo. If your company is not owned by either Sony PlayStation, Microsoft Xbox, or Nintendo, never release your games to only one of their platforms, or you will continue to lose money under these giants. These giants are all about making deals, who write checks for exclusivity, with the promise that your games will do better under them, and it never works. It will never work. Even Sony knows that their games aren’t going to profit as well as they could, but they eat it anyways, because they make up for it with more consoles sales and more psn subscribers. Publishers and the studios under them should never have to eat anything under these guys, unless the game is a trumenduse failure. When it comes to Square Enix, they have absolutely nothing to worry about not being under Sony’s wings, because this is a publisher who knows how to deliver exceptional high-quality games. I’m not a fan of any publisher, due to their god awful business tactics, who’s daily fixations are strategizing about how to extract as much money from their customers hands, all without breaking any laws. That being said, if I had to pick my favorite publisher, it would have to be Square Enix. The vast majority of the games Square Enix ships out, aren’t buggy, they are priced right, and it feels like you’re getting every cent out of your $70 purchase. If I wa Square Enix, I’d hold off firing from firing or closing down your studios, and continue to create incredible games, now that you’ve freed yourself from Sony’s exclusivity, which was the fundamental cause for the loss of profit. The more these publishers continue to close down studios, the less games are made, which means the less money you’re going to make. I do not understand the firing calls being made right now, because it’s going to bite them in the ass. Publishers are only thinking about how much money they can make now, instead of investing for the future, and it boggles my mind. Games take a long time to make, but the payoff in the end is worth it. Heck, I’d keep a Studio even if we broke even on the deal. No loss or gain isn’t a big deal. Why? It shows that you as a publisher have more games in the fire than the other guys. Question: If you are a shareholder, who would you pick to invest your money with? Do you invest in a company with only 5 high-quality games in the works, or a company with 20+ high-quality games in the works? I’d pick the company with 20+ high-quality games cooking, and just patiently wait it out. Sure, there are other factors that Sony and Microsoft will try to push on you, to convince to you about other ways to make money with them. At the end of the day, a video game company with more studios and games retailing for $60 or $70 each, will always win. It’s not that complicated. Imagine you’re a kid again, and you’re out trick or treating on Halloween. One house is giving you 1 piece of candy, and then you hear another house is giving out handfuls of candy… You’re going to hall ass to that house giving out handfuls of candy. You might even change masks, and go back to that house. Next year, you’ll remember that house who gives out handfuls of candy, and it’ll be your first stop. That reputation established is the same concept with video game companies, and I don’t care what they say. All I want to know is how many games do you have, and how many games you don’t have, before making an investment decision.
Cause the games sucked. Look at God of war, Ragnarok, ratchet and clank, bloodborne and horizon on how exclusive games should be.
Excited to play ff7 part three on ps6 in a decade or so yay… thats part of the problem with rebirth not selling well. Plus most people I know didn’t get a ps5 they got new pcs
Square Enix copying Microsofts homework….
As an Xbox customer, I needed this good news.
Honestly, anyone who makes games should be dropping Sony like a bag of rocks. They haven’t been shy about hurting the brands of game makers that work with them, killing their partners bottom lines chasing their own weird agenda. At this point Sony is poison and the industry needs to figure that out.
SE should really cut ties with KuSony before becoming one of hundreds of devs/IPs that’s been put down over the 3 decades. KuSony doesn’t care about the games or devs, all they want is to sell their garbage platform by any means necessary. Heck, all devs that’s have contract with KuSony should just terminate their contracts for their own good.
Imagine sony ponies failing to buy their own games – so sony decides to release them on other platforms lmao.
The reason Final Fantasy games fall short of revenue and profit is because the fan base for those games is astronomically small compared to the overall fan base of Sony.
In a nutshell, just because you wussy’s like Final Fantasy doesn’t mean everyone else likes it
Nah, they just need to make RPGS. Stop with the dumb ass devil may cry games. Ff16 is not a ff. It’s a dmc clone. SE is not se anymore in my opinion. At least the Enix part has dq games I hope
They have made this game 17 times and I ha e never played a single one. I’ll still never play it. Stay on shitstation
Titles that don’t innovate and are exclusive to a single platform don’t sell well.
Imagine that.
Idk with how much budgets are for games, exclusivity deals are going to start dying out imo games if they keep going are gonna start costing 4 or even 500 million to make one and that’s a big risk or generations are going to start being longer
Does this mean they will port ff7 rebirth to other consoles? I have literally everything EXCEPT ps5
A few million more dollars when games come to xbox
Oh wow, sounds like PS players don’t buy games.
Games Exclusivity means less time and resources for a game developer to test a game, If they choose for non-exclusivity, they need shell-out more MONEY and TIME in testing the game from different types of systems(PS/XBOX/PC). game developing isn’t “one size fits all”,. Games settings needs to be tweaked rigorously (from startup to end credits/to every side quests and to every mini games/every FMVs) to fit different types of system and technology (PS/XBOX systems), Moreover a different types PC architectures(AMD/Radeon : Intel/Nvidia). Do you know how hard to port an Iphone games to an Android phones? almost doubling the resources and time needed. So good luck on their budget.
Now when we getting The Bouncer Remake?!
At least the development team aren’t being blamed.. You may love rebirth or hate it but I still feel a huge amount or care was put in that game even if you don’t agree with the way it turned out
Honestly good for them.
Or maybe start making great games again and not this fan service garbage they are pumping out.
Injured??? Good!!! let them sweat a little now……😶
Square Enix has made mediocre games for the last 10 years. FF16 was boring and FF7 Rebirth was way way too goofy. It’s no wonder they continue to fail.
Ruin the story of one of the greatest RPGs of our childhood and I wonder why no one wants to play. I wouldn’t play any more of this series even if I got paid
Exclusively to me in general is Exclusively dumb from all the dumbness it has like if a company truly want money they pull a put me on everything like how fortnite yea it a dumb thing but it the only game that no joke i can say i kill someone on a dang refrigerator!
This is a square Enix management problem. They are never satisfied with the sales of any game no matter how great it may have performed then they get pissy that they won’t hit their projected 3 trillion in sales.
A good news, they need to realize that ff xvi direction was a mistake, shifting away from jrpg into action. And splitting one game into 3 game remake lol. Exclusivity in not alone at fault here.
Well, bad sales leads to sales, I’ll buy them when they are reasonable price
Third party exclusivity shouldn’t be a thing.
I understand console manufacturer exclusivity to increase hardware sales…but third party? It makes absolutely no sense, no matter how you look at it.
Glad you aren’t covering the stupid manufactured Drama going on with Assassins Creed and everyone losing their shit over a lore accurate character.
If they bring FF7 remake to xbox I’ll be buying all the games in the series
I just hope FF XIV gets released in the next Nintendo console (I doubt it’ll happen during the Switch remaining life span).
Eorzea will receive the new adventurers with open arms ♥
Exclusivity is anti-gamer.
Corpos don’t want our money, they want ALL our money.
Exclusivity is that will bring a gaming crash, it did before. Sony and these companies need to watch their greed or the bubble will pop soon, almost did these past few years.
Wait a minute. If FF16 & 17 were PS 5 was exclusives, then how was i able to play on pc? 🏴☠️ Such a strange situation I found myself in. 🏴☠️
Square Enix sets their expectations too high. Most games would be glad to sell as many copies as FF-7R and FF-16 have.
But I call this a win for players if it means no more exclusives.
Square Enix reporting disappointing sales of their latest titles?
So……. business as usual then?
i thought about half the PS5 owners had either FF16 or FF7 Rebirth, which is an impressive feat. I just thought that the games were also out on PS4, i guess i was mistaken.
Let’s not forget that this is all Square Enix’s fault for blowing all their money on worthless projects with not future that has them in such a precarious position
So they aren’t coming to pc😢 don’t want a ps5
About FFVII rebirth, leaving PS4 behind on the second title of a 3 part game was a bit of a dick move imho. I know PS4 it’s pretty old by now (and I’m probably alone with this) but If you are going to leave a story incomplete on a platform because it’s too old why bother in the first place.
I’m sorry, but as this video goes on all I hear is billionaires complaining they couldn’t make a few billion more.
that’s awesome, this always needed to release on pc at the same time
Sale definitely wouldve been better had it been on pc. That should be cool
Making investors happy is the death of videogames. Also the GAME ISN’T COMPLETED. The full game together will sell harder than any other PART.
New Final fantasy 7 was alright. I don’t think they were able to hit the mark of awesomeness the OG was able to capture. I think they fell about 25% on the awesomeness scale vs the original 100%
There were TOOOO many extra things that weren’t needed and they ruined the death of AERIS
Yeah, can´t wait for those polished ports for PC platform SE is well know for.
Console exclusivity is nothing but an artificial sales constraint, utterly pointless in the age of digital distribution.
As someone who used to be a MASSIVE fan of Final Fantasy, I probably won’t pick up FFXVI or FFVRebirth even if they came to Xbox until I find them heavily discounted. If either of these games came out with some semblance of turn-based or menu-driven combat, I would have gone out and bought a PS5 just for them. But, if Square is insistent on putting out hack-and-slash action games under the Final Fantasy brand, I’ll continue to pass on them. I did buy and play FF7Remake when it launched and gave it a fair chance. But, after seeing the direction they went with it, I am not very interested at all in the rest of the remake trilogy.
What they said is that the games were doing fine, but they didn’t make the profits needed to offset all the bad decisions made that killed their profits. They literally had a 17% revenue increase and sales numbers were up, but things like cancelling multiple games intended for releases 2027 and up completely destroyed any possible profitability.
It’s funny that everyone harps on the 3 games released exclusively on PS, when they also released 9 games exclusively on Switch in the same timeframe that barely sold 1 million copies.
Just be like Rockstar release it for consoles then polish the game for a year or two and release for PC win win there will be a lot of people who buy both on console and PC.
To be fair theres less ff fans these days those games are mid. Has nothing to do with exclusiveness. The sales would have been the same still. Rebirth is a very very mid game
1st party and 2nd party mean exclusive right? 3rd party means on all platform?
Maybe dont make games that cost more than adding modules to the international space station
They must have got paid something by Sony for being PS exclusive, else why do it?
Ff remake part 2, only 30 percent of people finished part 1. Obviously people aren’t buying that till they finish the first game. Company should have seen this
Wanted to play FF16 then realised it’s not on Steam… (yet)
About damn time for exclusivity to die off. Time to release it for every platform.
Maybe they’re just weak games.
I’m starting to think business is all just making it to the top, kicking the ladder with short term growth bad decisions, and moving on to the next. Taking on investors just sounds like a death sentence. I really don’t see how you can operate on just a strategy of MORE.
Final Fantasy *does not sell consoles*
Sony needs to just accept reality and release on PC concurrently. I’ve been waiting for these games for my PC.
Regardless of anyone’s feelings, a game being exclusive in itself is *FINE*. Exclusives can bolster a system’s library and cause more competition, making the overall quality of games better. I mean just look at the SNES and Genesis era.
But the problem is the insane budgets going into games, companies having extremely unrealistic sales expectations, and *timed* exclusivity, which is the worst of both worlds: a game not made with a specific system in mind to start, arbitrarily locked out of a multiplatform release for a period of time so that they can’t make the sales off the hype cycle on platforms they have to wait to release on.
Finally!
They intentionally limited their possible customer base to 10% of it’s potential, and didn’t get as much money as they thought they’d get? Shocking
A large portion of long time fans of their games made the switch to PC a long time ago.
Holding out on developing a PC release later actually costs more money. Not only do they struggle with trying to charge full price for a 2 year old game by throwing away the new launch momentum the very way games are developed makes it more efficient to work on the PC release as the base rather than create assets for console then go back and redo all the work.
What they’re really hoping for is the exclusivity bribe money combined with gamers who will buy the PS5 release AND double dip with the PC release would lead to more profit. It doesn’t, There just aren’t that many people willing to buy both versions at full price. Even many of those that actually own both a PS5 and PC are willing to just wait for the PC release lowering their launch sales.
Failure wasn’t to do with exclusivity it was to do with a lot of people probably waiting out on buying each part until all are released in some sort of bundle for a better price. Could also be because people weren’t happy with the trickery of “rewriting history” but then doing the same thing but personally everyone knew she was still going to die.
Couldn’t be the fact that 16 and rebirth are 70$, could it? Maybe they should price their games better
I want more ffx like final fantasy games.
Linear and they open up at the end of the game.
Unfortunately, Square Enix games didn’t meet my quality expectations. Their games are mediocre as fak
As a metric it either show 2 things….first, people aren’t buying these types of games anymore….or PS5 sales are overstated and aren’t as good as media touts it to be.
Bring back nobuo uematsu.
How about quit milking final fantasy to death and make another good ip
Corpo: *keeps releasing broken, unplayable and falsely marketed products*
Also corpo: Hmm, why are people not preordering
Also corpo two, braindead boogaloo: *releases a game on a single platform that requires an expensive console purchase with 177 countries that can’t make accounts*
Also corpo, the return of the CEO: Why are our games not selling well?
“Foamstars want a flop” be for real man
While I appreciate games coming to more systems and thus give more players the chance to experience them, it’s not like having the games on Xbox would have helped with Square Enix’ lofty sales expectations. That is no jab at Xbox but just at the sheer sales number and the brands position atm in the current gen. How much does SE expect those games to have sold more if the supposed market leader didn’t sell, what SE they considered enough numbers? Perhaps temper your expectations? Absolutely bring games to more plattforms but also realize what the actual issue is here.
I know its off topic for this video but where the hell is the marketing for Hellblade 2? Xboxs biggest game right now and I found out its releasing in just a few days by the home screen on my series x. There’s like no marketing for it whatsoever.
I prefer to play my games on PC, I think Sony/Square would like me to double-dip getting it on PS5 but now I’ve seen they’re releasing their games on PC a year or so later and I’m very comfortable waiting. They def gain new players releasing games on PC but they probably lost some PS5 sales numbers like me knowing it’ll be on PC at a later date.
I would love to play FF16 on my xbox.
Sony down bad Microsoft gaming and Sony are totally different Xbox is not the biggest earning business that makes up Microsoft PlayStation is the biggest piece of Sonys business this hurts Sony way more then Xbox and actually square enix is much closer to Xbox these days wouldn’t be surprised to see us scoop them up at some point
*Everyone on the planet buys the game twice*
Corpos: Yeah, the sales figures aren’t bad but they fell short of our expectations
I know that’s not the case here but it sure as fuck feels like it. Doesn’t matter how well something does, how well it’s reviewed, how much it sells, it’s never enough, and the next thing always has to sell better.
And the EA shows us that even meeting all those targets and expectations just gets you the boot. What’s the fucking point in even trying anymore?
Imagine that. You restricted yourself to a platform that has yet to sell as much as the previous one due to inflation cutting into everyone’s budget and by proxy the games didn’t sell as well as you’d like. I think that’s one of the biggest factors behind Sony’s push to get into the PC market, only they’ve already pissed us off royally and continue to do so because they think they’re slick. It started with Helldivers 2. Now Tsushima. They really want our data and they ain’t fucking getting it. All you have to do is release the games on PC, have them run as well as the console counterpart, and you’d make bank. But nope. Gotta be greedy little fuckheads.
Let’s be honest it’s not the exclusivity but due final fantasy hasn’t been the best jrpgs since final fantasy 13. Even final fantasy 15 didn’t sell well. With YS, Persona, Tales series and more are their competition. I would not like it on Xbox either as let’s be honest we will be hoping for it to be on game pass so sales doesn’t really do much difference. Final fantasy changed after final fantasy x. 12 was their last great game.
We alienated 2/3rds of our audience…. Why haven’t we sold enough?!
No no, sales aren’t bad, the majority of our investors and C-suite are just delusional
Exclusively is such a 7th gen way of thinking. Hated it back then, hate it more now. It’s just never made sense to me why they’d want to sell LESS, logically
I never liked FF7, I saw the changes from sprites to 3D models and hated it with passion, this remake it is a hardpass for me.
So, let me get this straight: Square Enix is struggling and is not making all the money in the world. To compensate that they are porting more of their biggest titles immediately to the big consoles/platforms out there. And because they don’t need people to port all these games, they gonna fire people.
FFVII in 3 parts was a deal breaker for me … I said I would only buy it once the three are completed and as a set.
As for 16, though 15 was awesome…. It was an incomplete game and needed a lot of additional content to get the complete story … Soooo was a little disappointing
Bridges were already burned. I would never purchase FFXVI or FFVII even if they came to Xbox. Iv just written the games off at this point.
How does Square judge success, the same way everyone does. Making more money than you invested. Playstation exclusivity has destroyed this generation for Square.
Exclusivety is always bad. Only Nintendo gets away with it because everyone knows their characters…
That’s what happens when you release dogshit (ff16)
Squeenix
“How weird, the game we didn’t sell to most of the gaming public didn’t sell as well as we had hoped!”
Ill be honest forspoken is the best fun i had on ps5. I love it brought it full price and the dlc.
I’d play forspoken over again if it had a new gamexplus mode
I don’t know if it’s the same for everyone but in my case I had some hesitance towards buying the second game as I haven’t even completed the first. Even though it’s all a 2 decade old story it still makes me feel like waiting to buy rebirth.
This is great news. Square Enix used to be the gold standard in gaming but the younger generation these days mostly knows them for Forspoken, Marvel’s Avengers, Babylon’s Fall, Foamstars and the meme of never meeting their sales expectations. Getting their development pipelines in order and finally ending the exclusivity deals is a much needed change.
Gaming industry is about consumers spending money….if consumers don’t spend well yall go broke. Simple. We have bills games aren’t important.
Make games I WANT. Make Games CHEAPER. I don’t feel bad at all because my money is in my pocket I don’t have to worry about share holders or sells lol 😂.
Cry more squenix.
I loved playing FFXV on Xbox. Completely blew my mind that they went exclusive with their golden goose (and 16). Not only did it turn me off of the series as a whole, it made me actively hate Sony at the same time. I have absolutely zero interest in 7R already with the episodic release (wouldn’t buy and play until all 3 games are released) and the console exclusivity only makes it worse
Finaly a company making a decent choice. Fuck exclusivity deals!!
Does this mean Square Enix has quadruple times the expectations and can complain 4 times as much in the end for not meeting them?
Finally, I have always wanted final fantasy 7 games for xbox.
Unrealistic expectations as usual from the studios. But I’m glad if the games will be multiplatform day 1.
Square Enix should have broken away from Sony exclusivity years ago. All that money they lost not porting their games to PC and Xbox is a harsh reminder of that mistake.
Any news on Kingdom Hearts 4?
Good I hate system exclusives.
Maybe they’ll finally release Final Fantasy Tactics on PC now.
Make the game exclusive for a console, and after 90-120 days, release them on all consoles. If you want to play it when everyone else is playing? Buy a PS5. If not, wait. I think that sorts both issues out.
FF16 and maybe Final Fantasy as a whole is no longer a rpg. It’s a action devil may cry like with rpg elements.
Refuse to buy it.
We wanted a FF7 Remake, we got a FF7 reimagining. Fuck them, not buying it. Don’t care if it’s good.
I grew up playing Final Fantasy. I loved them all, Square always changes shit up, yes true, but they have never changed genre before. It’s different this time.
If I wanted Devil May Cry, I’d play Devil May Cry. Final Fantasy has lost it’s identity and is dead to me now, which honestly is very sad.
Lol, they were exclusive?!? Since when?!?
remember when square actually made good games?
Oh gee who could have seen this coming? The absolute shitshow that was rolling out of PS5s, couple that with the fact that inflation and cost of living are out of control with pay not keeping up, and to top it all off charging 70 DOLLARS for what is effectively the other half of the game for FF7. These fucking companies can pound sand.
Whether this is a good or bad thing is unclear, If Square enix can push out quality games with a lower budget then its all good…if not then expect games worse than FF 10.
Not being exclusive anymore is a good thing for gamers but square is delusional. I got ff16 in a ps5 bundle when i bought my console. I played around 20h. The game is really fucking boring. No exploration its just 20 minutes cutscene, 5 minutes of combat , 20 minutes of cutscene rince an repeat.
About time
“relied too much on individual creativity” plus some of the other notes sounds like we are going to be seeing a post soon about layoffs.
So stupid. Im not buying a Ps5 for this release it on the PC NOW
Well if the the game was on Xbox I don’t think it would have made a difference but day 1 pc would help . rebirth feels like I’m playing a game harder than fromsoft game when I’m chasing the platinum
The era of console exclusives has long gone and whoever was making that decision at Sqaure Enix was living in the past. Nintendo is the only company that can get away with having exclusives because for all of their faults, they do put out hit after hit after hit, and I feel like every time I have bought a Nintendo console, I always get my money’s worth and a ton of amazing first party exclusive games. Xbox and Playstation don’t have that luxury anymore.
1 thing, FF Rebirth devs openly came out and said they LIKED only working on 1 platform at a time. They said FF7 Rebirth would not yet be released if they had to develop for multiple platforms.
While I have no problem with things being multi platform (obviously) there ARE downsides to releasing on everything at once.
Imagine if Cyberpunk 2077 released PC only 1st and worked on other platforms
As a Primary PC gamer, I bought FF16. I really enjoyed it, but man is it hard to go form 60+ fps medium-ultra settings to 30fps medium-low settings. I hope 16 gets a PC release someday so I can finish it.
70 for a games is fucking them up
Honestly, they should really drop the Epic deal as well. The exclusivity is obviously not doing them any good.
LET’S GOOOO
Nobody wanted Foamstars
Foamstars was a waste of time and resources. No one wanted another Splatoon knock off. I blame SquarEnix for giving the go on that project.
Good! I want those games and have wanted them for months!
Exclusivity is not the issue, bad games are.
FFXV, FFXVI and now 2nd FFVII Rebirth games are simply terrible copies of other games.
Time for Brave fencer Musashi and einhander to come back.
I wonder if they can sell enough copies on Xbox to recoup the cost to port to the Xbox.
inb4 mandatory Playstation Network account
Bout Damn Time.
Square has a history of bad decisions. They were going out of business so they made their “Final” fantasy, got lucky and survived.
Made a Final Fantasy move that was Nothing like a Final Fantasy and almost tanked the company so they had to pair with Enix, becoming Square Enix.
Live service games from a company better at single player games.
NFT’s. . . . Nuff said
Any exclusivity deals, essentially limiting player base thereby limiting money.
Hope they have finally got a clue.
I feel like 20 ff games came out the last 2 years. They probably arent selling what they expect because they just keep releasing them
Lower your expectations, Square Enix. Problem solved.
It’s weird that no one who’s reporting on this ever brings up that Final Fantasy XIII and XV both launched on Xbox as well as PlayStation. All the recent ports/remasters of the series’ older games are also multiplatform.
PlayStation all but abandoned the Japanese market this console generation, and the Switch has well over 90% of the market share there as a result. Of course the new Final Fantasy games were going to underperform.
I’m not even anti console exclusive. Sometimes when a game is ported to so many consoles or platforms, there’s a version that gets the short end of the stick. If a game is going to be ported so much, the company needs to put more effort in to optimizing each port. A title like FF7 remake/rebirth can afford it. But I don’t think squeezing MK1 or hypothetically god of war ragnarok one the Switch is necessary. That could just make people unhappy.
I swear I heard you say “Squinix” 😂 it would actually be a good/better name
One thing that kept me from buying a PS5 despite being an enormous long-time fan of SE’s series is that they keep bringing everything to PC after a year or two on average from the release. Timed exclusive means that it isn’t exclusive!
Would have liked to play ff16, but i’m a PC scrub who still has an old ps4 that i dust out from time to time, just see no reason to get a ps5 only for a couple games.
When are we going to get your thoughts on Assassin’s Creed Shadows?
As a Playstation fan, I say, GOOD! About time Square Enix leadership figured out multiplatform releases is the only way they can hope to meet those ridiculous internal expectations of their and their shareholders’. Let the PC and Xbox players in on the fun!
Well maybe if Ps5s wasn’t still hard to come by as well as final fantasy 7 rebirth wasn’t exclusive and still brought to PS4 still like horizon’s DLC also should have been, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue.
Sony failed to market these games and get more people to buy them. Ultimately hurting Square Enix financially. These are great games that need to be available on all platforms to maximise their potential.
Exclusivity seemed to work wonders up to 2010. However, nowadays even first party titles are seeing multi-platform releases such as God of War and Halo: The Master Chief Collection. The only system that still thrives while keeping to themselves is Nintendo but perhaps one day we will see a Mario game on a Sony or Microsoft system too.
Basically they reached the full potential of playstation exclusivity and now have come to a stalemate where now they need to be on new platforms to reach their goals
As an XBox gamer, I would’ve bought some of these games if I could.
Good. I will instantly drop $200 for the FF7 remake trilogy on Xbox series X
The thing is that, the games would (in their eyes) fulfill internal expectation if they didn’t doe exclusive. I get it, it good for money for both you and the exclusive console/company but it doesn’t help your customers. Limiting isn’t really good unless sony or microsoft got LOTS of faith in their games bringing people to play on their consoles like the old day, but we all know those days aren’t coming back 😅
I totally agree that they should do that even if final fantasy is already on p, c, they just need to put it on Xbox and place PlayStation Xbox in the switch. And I ultimately say this. If the switch I will wait for the switch a little bit. Then switch to and see if it can run other games first before I release it. That’s what I would do. But I would definitely put it on a new Xbox. But besides that young, keep up the good work, keep up the discussions.Everybody and keep up the good young and i’m out
Saying “foamstars didnt meet expectations” like it was realistic for anyone in the conpany to believe it would 😭
I’m tired of hearing about shareholders not being able to buy their third yacht.
Honestly won’t yell at. You’re forgetting one important thing, even if square E. Nix does do that. They’re always gonna be people who are not big. Fans of final fantasy there’s so much people in this world billions and chillions of people. It’s kind of tricky in the value of their money is very tricky as well. So when it comes to the value of their money so to us, a couple billion or more copies that they sold. Yeah, that’s a success. Because our value is higher than Japan’s value. So let’s say they do that because final fantasy rebirth. Is also on pc. You know how many people play PC. So that would have to be on PS mean Xbox, which is falling apart in front of our eyes. Ice. Also oh switch, and it’s already on the switch final fantasy. So the value of our money compared to theirs is what is biting them. Noto certainly the soul the sales themselves the value of their own money in their own currency. That’s why people make anime who make Manga. They don’t get paid enough because their value is way lower compared to hours and realistically. In our state, they’ll be getting paid a lot and there’s none at all.😊
I stopped following FF series sometime before FF7 uses new canons
Honestly, how could they not include these games in Xbox and PC? You do not need to be an expert to know that by having available games in many consoles will mean you will sell more!
This is all thanks to the stupid exclusivity that companies create around… Square Enix making deals with Sony to make things “exclusive” for a limited time on PS consoles was a very foolish move! Now hype has ended, and even if they move these great games to Xbox and PC, they may not sell as well as if they had been available from the beginning… look at FF15, it sold 5MM units in a few days? Honestly, I do not know how companies are making these decisions? Or is this a move because they will be fully acquired by Sony? FF16 was an astounding game, better than any other SciFi FF out there! Very sad that it was not open to other consoles… you reap what you sow! Stop the madness of exclusivity, even if it is for some months or years! MAKE THE GAMES AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE! If you are a 3rd party developer that is!
It’s about time. Remake and Rebirth are absolutely brilliant games and deserve to be experienced on multiple platforms. Stop letting ponies claim these as their own when they don’t even buy them enough to satisfy square.
If the next NieR game is exclusive to PS5, I’mma lose my shit.
Ponies – Haha, Xbox games are going multiplatform.
Also Ponies – Ya know, losing SE exclusivity on PS isn’t bad, it’s good others will experience their games.
(*Trying to play off that they’re losing exclusives, especially after using SE as a bullet point against Xbox for years*)
FF is one of my favourite series out there, but I refuse to buy a PS5 just to play a couple of exclusives, so it would be insane if they ended their exclusivity bs.
Honestly I would love to see what sales expectations look like for companies,
we always hear that this doesn’t meet expectations that doesn’t mean expectations but what are the actual expectations.
Would be simply be nice to see the unrealistic expectations on display versus more realistic expectations.
I wonder how many companies are expecting GTA level sales for their games.
Naturally their sales would go up on all platforms thats a no brainer but meeting expectations?,
I guess only time will tell, I’m sick of hearing the words “Not meeting expectations”
I hear it echoed way to often throughout the gaming industry but it feels to vague without a sales target reference to look at.
I just wanna know what Expectations they have or had when signing their soul to sony cos I feel like the numbers are gunna laughable next to common sense
Well what do they expect their sales to be if they confine their games to only one console. If a game is on more platforms you have more potential buyers simple as that.
Ff16 was better than the 2nd 7 remake to me. But both pretty solid games. And no one I knew was talking about them. I asked a few friends who used to be into these types of games and they didn’t play them.
Square Enix needs to stop making these random games. Just stick to Final Fantasy and then I just need my Chrono trigger remake.
FF7 rebirth was censored, and FF16 strayed too far from final fantasy. Exclusivity is a small part of the problem.
Should of had more physical stock for FF7 part 1. It probably would have encouraged more people to buy part 2. TBH they dropped the ball by not making a special edition with two disc games just like the original
Maybe they just expect too much of themselves lol.
Kinda weird the made this new ff7 game PlayStation exclusive when the original wasn’t, original ff7 came out on PC also back in the day. 13 and 15 were multiplat also. SquareEnix choice to narrow their customer base was a weird one.
Major problem they are forgetting is there’s a big install base of people who bought part one of FF7 remake on PC waiting for part two on PC. We aren’t going to buy it on PS5 as waiting for the PC version.
FF16 being locked on PS5 was stupid period. JRPG can be much more niche these days so they should definitely be on PC and Xbox and maybe Nintendo once they get better hardware one day.
I love how gaming execs think they know how to make money.
Shouldn’t exclusivity deals take into account lost sales on other platforms and compensate in relation to that?
Scores aside, FF7 is not a remake its a reboot and FF16 is empty on rpg elements/open world. Not enough to pull in and hold players who would promote the games.
*say it aint so*
I’m lucky enough to own every platform but not everyone has or wants a PS5 (or the countries that don’t support PSN) Square shot themselves in the foot with exclusivity deals with Sony. Reselling previous final fantasy on other platforms might slow down the bleeding but not stop it right away. Another thing that would help is print more physical copies of the Pixel remaster! Throwing it with a PS5 and Xbox Series X/S physical disc would sell out asap for collectors.
All the comments: Exclusivity never works, it’s bad blablabla…
Meanwhile Nintendo: 😎
Theres a reason FF14 is so successful, it was on PS4 AND PC AND NOW ON XBOX.
Took them long enough. After how big a pain in the ass it was to even GET a PS5 for the longest time of course sales were bad for an exclusive.
We’re at a point where even if a game is profitable it still isn’t enough for those greedy investors.
I swear even if a game broke world records the investors will still expect double that in the following years.
*No internal sales numbers were shared*
I’m willing to bet it’s because it doesn’t matter what the sales numbers were no matter what. Square Enix (SE) was that type of significant other in a relationship with Sony that was just waiting for any excuse to happen so that they can finally have a guilt-free break up in their relationship. 🤣
Even if they were to get 3 million more copies sold on Sony, SE would have still said “Sorry but I want to see other people”. Damn cold. 🥶
Moral of the story here: keep your expectations low and widen the fanbase with your games
Whats this? Your software developers getting no sales because all your consoles sold and are sitting in some scalpers basement Sony?
Gosh, who could of seen this coming!?
Personally, I did not like FF16 or FF7Rebirth that much. I would not say those are bad games but I was not really that excited when I played those games.
Is this the same Square Enix that said 5 million Tomb Raider sales was below expectations?
Spends billions on a game. Releases only on one platform. Why did we fail?! Playstation isn’t the big cheese in the gaming world anymore. Covid ruined it for everyone. Due to lack of supply, most people migrated to PC.
Do all these corporate execs need to go back to business school for a year?
Took them long enough. I did buy 16 on ps5, but i don’t really play console. If they on PC, I will buy. It far better.
i mean the exclusivity is why i haven’t played them just straight up
They might consider making good games? When is the last time they had a good game?
So what happens when they put all of their games on everything and still don’t make enough money 🤔 😕 🙄 😒 😐 😑
Oh damn, it turns out *le gasp* that if you limit your product to about 20% of your entire market, it doesn’t sell well. Well gee who would have thunk it.
Weird that Sony wont just buy Square Enix after all this time.
get bent sony
The thought that they want us to spend $400 on a system then another $70 for the game is kinda silly. I have an Xbox and pc, I don’t wanna get a whole new system for 1 game
Square never has realistic sales expectations. They have really whacked out budgets. And not only does exclusivity limit your market, but so does releasing a game that used to be one game and turning it into three. I’m sure there is a non trivial number of people who played the whole game as kids and are waiting until the entire thing is remade so they can experience it all at once. Just like when they were kids
Exclusivity isnt the problem.. its the fact their making “remakes”, films in the form of videogames, NFT crap and a number of other things.
They need to go back to their roots and go back to a true turn based
I am sure the recent fiasco of Sony forcing PSN linking and the public actually finding out where PSN is not available might have contributed to this decision.
Exclusivity only made sense back when each platform had distinct hardware which made ports difficult to make. Now that consoles are just fixed spec PCs with minor tweaks, exclusivity is nothing more than a console seller.
Remember guys: if it’s not making infinite money, it’s failing in the game industry.
Ff16 was so good. Square Enix shot themselves in the foot by limiting sales to one system.
Where are these magical sales coming from??..Xbox, where they don’t buy games, Nintendo with The underpowered switch and PC where it will eventually come to. The main issue seems to be the cost of game development which only increases with the number of platforms you release on. Square’s biggest losses are from canceled games. On which platform are they going to sell more than the PS?
I don’t have a PS5, but I do have a PC. I will buy games on PC when they are released.
Anndddd they will start epic launcher exclusives
I’m confused….only selling to one console makes less money as opposed to selling to all the consoles?? How?!?! Someone needs to run the numbers again.
It’s funny because they will probably give FF Rebirth the GOTY this year, when literally NO ONE cared about the game, besides a small group of FF diehards.
After all, they must do that. I mean, it’s the only “big” PS5 exclusive game, in a year with Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones and Avowed for Xbox… They can’t let an Xbox game win the GOTY, right?
Wanna make money??????? Let’s just put it out on one console.
I don’t think Final Fantasy coming to Xbox is going to change anything considering that PS5 outsells Xbox SX 5 to 1, the problem is they set their expectations too high and got greedy, also peoples attention spans have got much shorter since Remake and Rebirth being too long is something i have seen dedicated FF fans bring up in their review of the game, non exclusivity is great but they aren’t going to increase sales bringing it to Xbox, maybe PC bit never Xbox, also a Switch wouldn’t be able to run a Final Fantasy game 😂
Good, its fucking stupid exclusivity exists in the first place. I would of bought and played both of these games had they already been released on steam. But instead im going to wait and pick them up at 75% off on a key selling site.
major W fuck these sony cucks i CANNOT wait to see tifa in a swimsuit on ff7 rebirth
made us wait years to confirm ff7 remake. we’ll wait years again to release your damn games on pc
Considering 16 doesn’t have an rpg sow we’res the rpg In It you can’t play the other carichtors. And the stuff you did in the ff7 remake doesn’t transfer for what’s the point.
Oh no consequences!!!
Can the FF community finally accept the facts?
This is not a surprise to me. Even though the pandemic has long been over and there are no more supply shortages, it is still difficult to buy a PS5 near me. In my area neither Walmart nor Target ever have them in stock and Gamestop only sells the more expensive bundles. The truth at this point is that there is still a larger installed base with PS4’s than PS5’s. It isn’t a genius move to say that if you can sell to different platforms and get wider exposure for your game you will have more sales. FF Rebirth doesnt say anything to casuals that may have played Remake. They should have called it Remake Part II. There are so many FF side games that are not a part of the main series that if you don’t keep up with game news it is easy to think that the name Rebirth refers to yet one more FF game for the side game pile. They’ve also got to stop with the nonsense of selling PS5 games for $70 to $80. There was absolutely zero reason to tack on the extra $10 to $20 to the price once the switch to the PS5 generation happened other than pure greed and the ever increasing desire to squeeze the consumer.
Im still waiting for kingdom hearts and the world ends with you to come to steam.
Doesn’t make any sense to limit your potential audience when you’re a third party. Square is slow af but they’re finally catching on.
square enix did this to themself. So many bad games they have created the last few years that it has hurt their reputation.
I still did not hear about a release schedule for ff16 and ff7rb for the pc. I mean announce it would probably avoid the stock declince since there where new revenue on the horizon
Third party exclusivity needs to stop being a thing that exists. Unless you’re an indie studio that can’t afford to port your game onto multiple platforms, there is no good reason for limiting the number of people that can access your game. I think we’re going to see both first and third party studios shifting to a multi platform model in the near future because these companies want continuous growth and at the moment, the best way to achieve that is to release your games on as many devices as possible.
Remake was released in a very mature console, that was #2 in all time sales at the time, so expecting those sales numbers was realistic. The PS5 is getting there, the annual sales numbers show it might sell the same or surpass the PS4, but those numbers are unrealistic unless the plataform is at it’s epitaph.
Square Enix needs new leadership plain and simple.
That’s what happens when they release a “Remake” when it’s actually only the first part of a story, a lot of people didn’t knew when they initially played it and they don’t wanna buy a second part. Totally understandable
Why are most people saying ps5 exclusivity meanwhile Maximilian dude point out its just exclusivity. There are plenty of square games that have been exclusive on the switch and died there. This is exclusivity. They released a metric ton of games last year that went on Def ears and died. Hell even the phenomenal new star ocean game died too quickly. There’s thinthat need to change and I promise isn’t about the latest final fantasy game especially since they still are porting them to pc.
Calling it now, Sony buys them to keep exclusivity
Aside from the fact that they limited sales to a proportion of the market, the PS5 had supply issues and also still an insane price tag to go with it. Not to mention that the cost of living has caused people to become more selective with what they use their money for and gone are the days where getting a console for $200-300, maybe even 400 can be justified. These days, I’m willing to bet that more and more people have pumped money into their PCs to get better GPUs/CPUs and are most likely waiting for the game to come out on Steam.
I think it is a good decision from Square Enix. I played the ff7 remake on ps4 and regreted it after the steam-release… i didnt even buy the ps5 or bothered buying the second ff7 part now… i will just wait until the steam release…
Stop sealing your fkn games so fkn expensive maybe the sales would go up!!! I stopped buying new games. I wait till price drops half price
The price point for these games is too high, combine that with platform exclusivity and delusional expectations; no surprise there.
Good. Exclusivity should die on any platform unless it’s linked to mechanic compatibily
“We didnt sell 10 copies for every human on earth we’re dissapointed.” ~ Squeenix
Well we know final fantasy doesn’t sell well on Xbox. ff16 or rebirth likely wouldn’t be playable on the switch. ff7 rebirth will likely come to PC anyway so I’m not sure what they will gain by this. But maybe with the switch 2 being out, they will see really good sales.
So long as the quality of the games continues to be great multiplatform is obviously the way. The problem is when devs have to reduce quality of the game to get it to run on less powerful platforms
Part of the issue is that the games haven’t sold well in Japan and that’s due to the PS5 itself not selling well. The Switch sold gamebusters though. So here’s hoping the Switch successor sells just as well
I need to be talking about Asian women.But damn they never talk to me 😔
i hope polyphony do the same
People are awakening.
I for example,for 4 years now i don’t preorder anymore.
As for new games,even the good ones,i wait for a discount(at least 40%) and by the time this discount occurs,the games are patched,fixed and have better perfomance.
I preordered Final Fantasy 7 remake,loved it,after i finished the game,i wanted part2 straight away…now for rebirth,i wait for a discount(i can wait).
Same way i control myself before shopping,to not doing a shopping spree.
Cyberpunk 2077 changed my preorder/day 1 practice and since then i’m happier,thx City Project Red.
I also imagine the $70 price tag is also a factor on why they aren’t selling as many copies as they want. Also, the money spent on these 3rd party exclusivity deals is not nearly enough to cover for the loss of 2/3s of the market.
would be happy to play Rebirth on my PC. of course without any connection to PSN…
It’s PlayStations fault these games suck ass now days? LMAO
People are just fucking tired of paying 80 bucks on games.
There are so many indies which are more fun for 1/4 or 1/5 of the money.
I just want another tomb raider game. Shadow of the tomb raider was great.
It’s too late now squeenix!! As a PC player after being considered by you as a peasant and having to wait years for FF, my fav. jrpg, to come out all because you liked to suck all the sweet sony money you could.
Now I will always take the high seas when it comes to your games! You don’t deserve my money!
If they end exclusivity, everyone wins. Customers, Square Enix, and shareholders.
Or they could sell off Final Fantasy in return for NFT stuff.
VII Remake wasn’t enjoyable for me so I skipped on rebirth, until it’s cheap at least. I buy alot of smaller projects (SaGa) and remasters full price though.
The big budget SE games have been pretty blah for me, stuff like FFXVI isn’t bad but it’s okay…. For the 20€ I paid for it.
Yes, exclusivity obviously hurts sales but i personally think gamers attitudes are changing as well. Theres a plethora of games out there and soooo many of us have a dozen games in our backlog. So why should i pay $70 for a poorly optimized game at launch day when i can EASILY wait 6-7 months and get the same game at a 20% discount and fully polished?
Thank goodness!
So weird. If you only exclusively sell a product on one platform, that isn’t nearly as widespread as computers within households all across the planet, you sell less of your product.
I honestly think at this point I could be some sort of business consultant and demand disgusting amounts of money from companies for telling them things anyone with a sliver of common sense knows intuitively.
I’m saddened to hear the news that FF7 rebirth in particular is doing poorly and to hear the news of the non exclusivity in a way. I think the best way to convey it is it’s like your parents getting a divorce, it feels like the end of a relationship, even though both parties will continue to work together and SE at least will hopefully thrive though whether Sony will remains to be seen. I’m ready to ditch Sony PS though for many reasons and FF was perhaps the sole reason I got a PS5. Now though, this in a way is good news as I can hopefully get games on PC and they won’t be bad ports. Still, it kind of feels like how Nintendo and FF separated, now it’s Sony.
FF7 Remake was on ps4 too, I think this is their mistake.
FF7 Rebirth and FF16 were only on ps5. There are more people on ps4 to this day, and you prevent them from playing the games.
Making these games for ps5 only was a big mistake, more than being a Sony exclusive
1)Square is worst than EA.
2)Most of their games failed/didnt meet their expectation.
3)They published a bilion games than no1 cared.
4)Not every1 likes FF games.
5)most people have a huge catalog of games to play already)
6)Sony paid for both titles up front ,including the marketing.
7)They already made their money back like 2 times over.
8)Greed.
9)Multiplat= multiply their sales expectation.
10)repeat from 1.
Games for 69,99.. it’s just too much for the teens/kids
The sad thing about foamstars, is that the core gameplay is actually really fun.
History repeats itself, that’s why nobody should follow clout media trend these days.
it’s almost as if releasing on 1/3 of the platforms means less potential sales…who knew
Corporation make mistakes and want to blame the public and lay off developers for management mistakes.
Gaming has change… In the past exclusive could work… Heck how many year exclusive was there in the past… Around mid last gen when stuff starting to change… Now game are just to expensive to make… And base on their own dum desicion making at times, they suffer from it…
Ok I wait for FF Rebirth on PC. I expect that with current strategy It will be released on PC next year on Steam 🙂
FF7 remake has a great opening. But its really trash afterwards
Their sales targets don’t mean anything though. Everything is and always will be disappointing to them. Remember when Tomb Raider reboot sold 3,4 million units in 4 weeks and even that wasn’t enough for Square Enix.
honestly i don’t get the idea behind console excusivity in the modern age: reduce potential playerbase to… incentivize more people buy a pc-esque device (console) sold at bom cost if not at a loss to grow playerbase for this specific platform to sell more games…later at the same price per copy as on pc. So selling consols does not make money directly and games cost the same ammount per copy for both platforms.
Finally.
Y’all can stop buying Sony brand computers.
What? It’s a console? No it’s a computer.
That can’t computer
Square – „we need literally every human being to buy 3 copies of our game to meet sales expectations”
Limit break.
Took them long enough to get the hint lmao
Another issue with Square Enix currently is FF XIV has an issue where it is declining VISA debit cards from subscriptions.
you do realize, right, that releasing rebirth multiplatform means nerfing it down? the other two consoles won’t be able to handle the battle system, nor the size of the map, the way PS5 is able to. SE may reach their expectation but it is the gamers who’ll suffer with not so great games.
16 and rebirth will get a massive boost the moment they are released on PC (all store fronts) and Xbox. I saw the playstation exclusive timelimit and the end of the rebirth trailer and was like – oh, ok. I’ll just wait for the PC release. I think when SE do release over the other platforms and storefronts, they will be like – oh, damn. we’re never going exclusive ever again. and even better with the playstation exclusivity over, the pre-orders will be very interesting for the next entries. and then obviously they will do a triple pack for ff7 remake.
I know several people that bought FF7 remake on console, played it again on PC and now they wait so they don’t pay twice again. And this also affected their decision to wait for FF16 PC release date. Some even sold their PS5 xD
Hot take: Square enix hasn’t made a good game in years.
Yes, yes so I don’t have to wait les go
they release it exclusivly on one platform, and than wonder it dont sell like if it would available on all current platforms … hm, I cant do the math here I guess xD’
I am against “forever” exclusive games on any platform. would love to see, when these games come to other platforms after 1 year or 2. we need bloodborne on pc and xBox and starfield and … 🙏🥰
FF 7.2 is not a good game, its hardly a mid game and so is FF 16.
I wish Rebirth relased on PC at the same time.. It runs like ASS on PS5 compared to what a PC could pull off. 4K 30fps in 2024 is UNACCEPTABLE! Performance mode has so low res it takes away from what I’m playing
Ive been an FF fan since the snes, but I lost all love for the series after 13. The games don’t have a soul anymore, and I think a big part of that was the loss of Nobuo. Its sad to see something I love becoming so lackluster.
Question is, will they make this policy retroactive so we can have 16 and rebirth on pc ahead of schedule?
All modern gaming hardware is x86_64 or ARM under the hood, these two architectures are extensively understood and have a wide variety of tools on to develop games for. Game hardware operating systems are either Linux derivatives or windows, the segregation only existed whilst gamers handed the money over.
I mean. For me, I didn’t buy the 7 remakes because they butchered the combat system.
PC is the future of gaming. The more powerful hardware allows developers to push game development to the limit. None of this restrictive 30fps @ 1080p on console nonsense
An ironic situation. Original FF7 significantly boosted PS1 console sales back then, and now FF7 remake exposed that gamers do not buy PS5 as much as PS1 era.
Square had a moment in 2013 with Tomb Raider Reboot where they just couldnt stop complaining about the sales of the game, and that game sold 3.4M in 4 weeks. And everbody was thinking what`s with these guys, those are awesome numbers. Apparently they wanted 6+M sales in first 10 days, that came out later. These mf`s are just insane. But this now, these games that they`re complaining now are really not for huge audiences, I play a lot of stuff and play everything but FF16, Rebirth are not for everyone, and Foamstars is just pure crap even free on PS+, nobody should play that shit.
It makes sense. Having exclusives nowadays makes no sense.
I mean It’s just common sense, Obviously releasing the game exclusive to PS5 will affect the sales numbers, Like they seems surprised, Oh the sales numbers are low, no sh*t 🤷♂
Not releasing ff7r to ps4 was a stupid mistake
I’m not really interested in square Enix games anymore, And I used to get so excited for all their games, Single player RPG’s,,,,,
Its almost like if you want to make all of the money, voluntarily limiting your market reach is a bad idea. Weird.
Yeah this is just dumb.. the exclusivity was never the problem, the bloated budget and awful marketing were the problem
So with the Helldivers 2 drama – You actually need a PSN account do buy and download FF7 and FF16 right? So not only do you limit your sells to one console which is PS5, which still a lot of ppl don’t have instead have still a PS4 etc., but you also limit yourself to ppl which are not in one of those 180 countries which are not even able to create a PSN account to buy the game online.
You cut yourself out so much from the potential sells by being a PS exclusive, PS5 exclusive even, and wonder why your sells don’t meet your expectations. I have no idea who does this analytics but they all need to be replaced.
Definitely saw this coming, with rising development costs there’s no way on this planet that Sony can offer them more money to stay exclusive than what they would made going multiplat day 1. Literally the most unsurprising thing of the century
I personally believe that the ERA of consoles it over. If people wanna play on consoles thats fine but locking Games behind one single platform is always gonna hold it back in the future.
FFXVI was a disappointment for me.
It felt like a “test” for smaller action oriented games to be launched between bigger RPG.
It has many flow like: Boring soulless side quests, repetitive combats (only one playable character), boring story, no elemental affinities…
On the other hand, FFVII REBIRTH is awesome.
The story, the characters, the world. Everything is more polished and deep.
It saddens me to learn that the game is not performing “enough”… Fingers crossed for FFVII part 3
Overall, SquareEnix is not in great form. They used their Joker by remaking their greatest hit (FFVII) but then what?
I will be getting when on ……sale
I’m not made of money.
Square did not factor in that I’m skint 🤣🤣🤣
Square Enix has been disappointed with “not meeting expectations” since men realized they could milk cows.
Wait, so you are telling me limiting who can purchase your games makes you earn less money?
*shocked pikachu face*
Or maybe people are just waiting for price drop, 80 dollars is just way too much
How I hope sales expectations discussions for FFVII Rebirth went:
“Okay so FFVII Remake sold 7 million as of 2023, on a console with about 120m install base. PS5 has an install base of around 55 million. (46%)
Remake sales also includes the PC port, so available on twice the number of consoles so we should take this into consideration when considering sales expectations.
Remake also released during the COVID gaming boom of 2020, which will impact sales as we have seen with several companies across the industry.
Oh and as a story based sequel, sales will inevitably be lower than Remake because not every single person who played Remake will play Rebirth for various reasons, however it’s very unlikely that someone will play Rebirth without playing Remake.”
How I expect they actually went based on how Square Enix seems to act:
“Hey! What’s the biggest selling game this year? Helldivers 2 with 12 million copies? Okay, well Final Fantasy is a more well know name than Helldivers, I think we should expect the same, if not more for FFVII Rebirth. Sound good guys?”
On a side note, from what I can find, based on all PS5 exclusives, Final Fantasy XVI is the 3rd best selling game on the console. Note, I’m not including multiplatform games or games that launched on PS4 as well (like Ragnarok)
The two above it are Spider-Man, which is fucking Spider-Man and will have an insane mass market appeal so it’s no surprise it’s top, and Rachet and Clank, which was one of the first PS5 exclusive games on the system that really touted use of the SSD, and even then it only slightly sold more than FFXVI. I’d say that’s a great achievement. No matter what your game costs to make, or what you personally want it to sell, it will sell based on market conditions and install base of the console. How Square Enjx can’t comprehend this is beyond my wildest imagination.
Too little, too late.
I didn’t buy cuz in general I think the writing is kinda bad…just saying. The reasons they didn’t perform might not strictly be exclusivity. (Although having a bigger player base would help)
Sucks to see that these amazing games didn’t meet expected targets because of exclusivity. It’s almost like exclusivity benefits no-one but the people who own the platform it’s exclusive on. So I’m glad to see Square finally taking a stance and stopping exclusivity. People should be able to play whatever games they want on any system they want to play them on. So any steps taken towards that reality is only a W imo.
Not buying another console just to play it. Wouls have tried it if it was on xbox.
I want to buy Rebirth but don’t have a PS5. I have a PC. Figure it out.
thanks, now I can stop praying for ports 5 years after PS launch
I mean it was a triple whammy anyway. A shit number of total ps5 users, a smaller niche playerbase of final fantasy enjoyers that even played intergrade or were even interested in sequals of games they already know they dont like. And then finally the exclusivity. What the fuck did they expect? Absolute morons out here holding management jobs.
Lmao get rekt to exclusivity. Also stop making live service game since you definitely dont understand its genre and invest on NFT that maybe still booming in jaan but already forgotten international
Oh my god, a sensible decision.
I mean, granted: I don’t know why they thought ps5 exclusivity was a good idea to begin with, given the install base, but goddamnit,
at least, at LEAST, they’re pointing the finger in the right direction for once.
Still won’t make me care about Final Fantasy. Never understood the religious hype about those games.
I honestly cant remember the last time SE was happy with their sales numbers. Everytime they drop a game it “doesn’t meet their expectations,” whether it’s exclusive or not.
I find it mindbending that so many people say that FF VII Rebirth is great. It constantly makes fun of Cloud, is full of boring padding and takes a giant dump on the story of the original. It’s also interesting that people turn to game critics when they want to prove that Rebirth is good, when, at the same time, they say that game critics cannot be trustet when they have an unfavorable opinion on games like Stellar Blade. People who dislike the FF VII remake project keep their mouths shut, because the super fans would come after them, which happened to Resonant Arc.
Doesnt anyone think Square be like, “damn microsoft are releasing their games everywhere to clean up, and now even sony the company we stayed exclusive for is releasing games on pc too, yet here we are restricting our sales by being on ps5 only to hell with that!”
No, you don’t get it. Simbio whatever IS THE FUTURE! NFT is where money is at, these games are chop change. They are doing Play to Earn, you just don’t get it bro.
They sold off those single player franchises as they were no moneymakers, nobody bought them, the future is live services. Marvels Avenger is where its at! Just trust me bro, they will revive that game and pull it into their symbo whatever and it is going to explode, it will be bigger than marvel, and disney and they will buy them all.
Maybe dont make a came and chop it up for 3, and release it with 2 years between. Put some skins and boosts in the game and let’s go. Gotta get all them skins
Even if the game sold 1 billion copies, they would still be disappointed because their target was 2 billion.
Makes perfect sense. Exclusivity is stupid I’m my opinion
Who could’ve guessed that selling on a platform that nobody could get for multiple years and that to this day has barely any reason to exist outside of an SSD wouldn’t do so hot.
It’s about time they realize that the PS5 doesn’t really perform in the way Sony was hoping. With the botched launch and the continuously high price, people were less likely to switch to the new system. Funnily enough, in terms of total sales in the same 4-year period the PS5 is performing just as well as the PS4 did. However, developers seem to expect a continuously upward trend, although it’s fairly obvious that the playerbase is going to be smaller early in the life time of a console than in the later life of the preceeding system. AAA games nowadays are simply too expensive to develop to just rely on the sales on a single platform.
I’m a bit on the fence, though, whether abandoning exclusivity entirely is really a good move. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a PC player. I haven’t purchased a new console since the PS2. I don’t *mind* waiting for new titles to come out, although it’s a tough wait for FF7 Rebirth. But I can live with it. However, it seems to me like this move is motivated mostly by that launch sale number, which I have no doubt would improve by making the games available on other systems initially. However, they would forgo the “second launch” of a game they already have, which they could place in the middle of a period where they don’t have major games coming out. Like they did with the FF7 Intergrade PS5/PC release, which went for full price over a year after the initial release. And now they have release FF7 Rebirth and FF16 back to back and it’ll take some time for the next major release, in which they can use the PC ports to bring in more steady revenue. Then if they launch the major titles on all systems simultaneously, what will they do in between?
Hindsight is 20/20.
Could have pulled a Blizzard and gaslit the playerbase for not having phones or being “loyal”, but instead jumped on Sony. 👌
Aren’t Square Enix the ones who expected Hitman Absolution (a niche assassin sandbox game) – to sell 6 million copies?
This game was never doing mad sales. It’s the mid point in a confused remake Trilogy, releasing just after the other big RPG of the year – DD2.
I heard their games don’t sell as well in Japan (FFXVI and FF7 part 2) with FF7 part 2 being the worst offender.
With 56 million PS5 sold, it makes sense for them to go multi platform. (to put that number in context 141 million Nintendo Switches sold, Xbox Series X 27,6 million, PS4 116 million, 132 million monthly active steam accounts, from google search)
If they want my money, they should return the FF series to turn based combat
Square Enix thought this year is 1997, and the PS exclusivity will win them points like last time
Releasing 3 serperate games might be another issue lol no one really is gonna buy half a game until they sell all 3 for a price
Hello everyone. Yes SE doesn’t has a good track record. True but what all of you forget is that a game that is exclusive also is mostly better finetuned to a specific platform. Didn’t the past learn us that games that come on all platform only have required specs and therefore in many ways are a bit downgraded???!!!
they should have expected that before release…are they dumb or something
they should have known not much ps5 sales to reap a lot of profit
should have released the game on multiplatform day 1
Litterally Everyone: *Buys a copy of some new Square Enix game*
Square Enix: Unfortunately, sales didn’t meet our expectations. We were expecting litterally everyone on planet Earth to buy the game, *twice*
3:50 low blow to Tesuya Nomura?😅
Oh they failed to meet expectations? It’s almost like limiting your games to a single platform on a console with the lowest install base doesn’t lead to untold millions. Who could have guessed?
Sooooooo basically, it’s because they weren’t making enough of the monies on PlayStation then. Pity, I thought it was because of Sony’s censorship policy
What happened to Square-Enix:
1. NFTs
2. Live Service Games (Bioware cannot do Anthem, do not force yourself Square)
3. Playstation exclusivity
4. Weak marketing on some of their titles
5. Changing gameplay on established titles, like Valkyrie Elysium and FFXVI
Now I think exclusives are foolish for a company like Square but that said. The shareholders system is trash. It is built on the idea of infinite growth. Which is the dumbest idea ever conceived.
A company should be able to make a healthy profit and that be okay. Nobody needs all the money.
The next Final Fantasy 7 part 3… whatever it’s called.. will still be exclusive to Sony. Continuity is everything to Sony and they will make sure it stays on there console and PC. It’s a damn shame…
Exclusives under selling. Is that even a surprise? This what happens when u miss out on PC lol
Well yeah their game is $80, I aint paying that.
I didnt buy 16 and 7 due to lack of pc version
Guys, if you didn’t sell enough PS5 units, how could you possibly sell enough PS5 exclusive titles? Facepalm.
Square enix wakes up 😂
They should revive their older forgotten Squaresoft IPs. Vagrant story, Front Misision, Saga series, Xenogears/saga/blade series, Bahamut Lagoon, etc. All done in-house, none of that 3rd party outsourcing (looking at you, last crappy Front Mission games!)
You want to grow but are limiting your games to one market. Wow, who saw that stopping them. Lol.
I don’t get it. How can such a huge company not know that exclusivity can only hurt their sales?
Who cares? Square isn’t owned by Sony, I don’t understand why PC and XBOTS are making a big deal about.it.Ps5 has a small install base and Square is a third party studio..they would’ve made more if they would have put it on the ps4 also
FINALLY Square and it’s *Courageous* and *Non Greedy* exclusive Playstation Deals are Finally paying of….
Wait…. WHAT!?
I’m a PS4/PS5 gamer and a non-PC gamer, and I truly want EVERYONE to be able to play these games.
Even as a PS player i hope final fantasy goes multiplat. Currently playing through 16 and having alot of fun. Hopefully it gets an Xbox/PC port
I like how Square Enix took 1 step forward and 2 steps back here by going multi-platform BUT also laying off many of their employees for restructuring within a few hours of the announcement lmao
Took Square Enix long enough to get it through their thick fucking skulls, platform exclusivity (timed or otherwise) hurts the wallet and customers.
Square thought it was still 1997.
Rare W from Square for once!
They were better when still called Squaresoft.
Square Enix releases so many terrible games that I don’t think people want to take the risk on buying games at a premium price. Sad times, Square Enix used to be amazing. They should focus on high quality AAA games and not produce these middle of the road games like Havestella, Forspoken and Foamstars to name a few.
There are less people buying games today because of the economy & limiting your game to only sell on one console that doesn’t even sell to half the globe is just a bad idea.
I’m really hoping this brings a moment of more companies moving away from the exclusive idea.
I’d like to think we are now seeing the start of the death of console exclusives & it’s only begun.
Xbox player base: 120 million
Playstation player base: 123 million
PC player base: 1.8 BILLION
Gee, I wonder what happened… 🙄
If this means FF7R part 3 releases on PC and Xbox, then wonderful – FF7R is absolutely brilliant. However, if this means part 3 is going to have less budget, that’s extremely unfortunate.
FF series should have been multiplat a long time ago.
Gaming has become too expensive
Mabey just maybe charging $70 for a video game during high inflation wont make people want to buy your game. Also the first part came out during covid, so this one didn’t stand a chance sales wise
So one of the big problems is that a large chunk of the FF fandom own PCs as their main gaming system and it’s also getting easier to have that run into main room of the house by hard line or by streaming heck if your living on your own there is a high chance that your bedroom is also your livingroom as you are going to be living in a 1 room flat if your lucky you may have your own kitchen and bathroom (heck if you need to live in or near a big city your family may be living in a 1 bedroom flat and even they are hard to find).
the PlayStation is an endangered species especially now that you are getting all these “”new”” hand held PCs, why buy a system that can only play games when for a similar cost you can buy a pc that can also do well everything heck it can even make its own games, another advantage a pc has is when you upgrade it you don’t lose access to all the games you brought before the upgrade or have to rebuy them again and again, I can still play games from 30 years ago on my current pc can the PS5 play your ps1 or 2 games? I already know the answer.
Hahahahaha … they should have done this YEARS AGO 😂😂😂😂😂
If I had a dollar when SE sales didn’t meet expectations…..
Yeah has nothing to do with how over priced ff7 part 1 still is at all. Haven’t even thought of part 2 cuz I ain’t buying part 1
You forgot to mention Outriders in 2021 which is a game I enjoyed but probably didn’t do as well as Squate Enix would have liked
Whats the matter Square? All those lofty NFT plans not paying off? 😏
Still dont understand why exclusivity is still around makes business sense to release on all platforms specially for a studio that is not owned by PlayStation. ff7 remake and rebirth are amazing games and deserve to be supported
good to see exclusivity bullshit is dying fast.
So far im intrested in 4 PS5 game’s. Im no’t going to pay $500 so i can play 4 game’s.
Well at least it’s not Alan Wake 2’s Epic exclusivity.
blame it on the console insteaf of how Square Enix suits have laughable sales expectations. Fromwhat i’ve heard, Rebirth still sold well, just “below expectations”. And iirc last time we’ve heard somethig like that, it came out that Square Enix execs had CoD or FIFA Numbers expectations for TOmb Raider…
Addingto that: I own a PS5. BUt i just don’T care for FF VII REbirth after the story changes etc. from the first part (and the dismal padding, Jessie’s stuff aside), or FF XVI… for me, FF did lose some of their roots and it’s not making me all that interested anymore (and I fear they do that to Dragon Quest as well… rumors are “No more turnbased. Darker and edgier. Branching story paths!” for 12)
Console exclusive games are biting back their ass now
Crazy how people don’t like games being sold in pieces instead of releasing a whole game. Such a wild concept that people don’t like being ‘nickeled and dimed.’.
It’s not all positive news. This will affect the optimization quality of their games.
And this is BEFORE Sony starts banning their games in about half the world.
I wanted to play FF16 being a FF14 veteran, but I don’t have a ps5 and I don’t plan on getting one so it’s kinda just like oh well. Wish third party games wouldn’t be exclusive :/
In all honesty I had no clue ff16 even released, if it’s not releasing on pc I don’t really hear about it since I do all my shopping through steam
Karma, after Sony shut down 9 of their own Studios and tons of it’s own Games , Classics and Franchises, in the last 15 years: “Well, well, well, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions.”
Now, holding other Studios hostages, with exclusivity deals until their are fed up with, makes them go panic.
Well Sony, time to bring your own exclusives back, like during the PS1 to PS3 era.
Killzone, Resistance, God Hand, Wipeout, SSX, Colony Wars, Heavenly Sword, Knights Contract, Eternal Sonata, Folklore, Resonance of Fate, Jak n Daxter, Sly Cooper, Legend of Legaia, Legend of Dragoon, Rogue Galaxy, Arc the Lad, Champions of Norrath, PSI Ops, GhostHunter, Splashdown, Rollcage, Extreme G, This is Football, Ar Tonelico / Nosurge, Cold Winter, Zone of the Enders, Drakengard, Shadowhearts, Wild Arms, ICO, SOCOM, Syphon Filter, Urban Reign, Bloody Roar, Bushido Blade, Motorstorm, Twisted Metal, Cool Boarders, Knockout Kings, Majin, Genji, Crimson Tears, Tenchu, Nightshade, Shinobi, etc…
Bring them back as Remakes and / or Sequels, cmon you can do it.
I’m ripping off Dunkey by saying this but the Final fantasy 7 remakes are like the hobbit trilogy of games. Why bloat 1 game into a whole damn trilogy of bloated remakes? I’m not saying they’re bad because I know they’re very good games but it’s stretching it unnecessarily thin too. Kinda strange how the recent games haven’t sold very well as I thought the first ff7 remake did very well. The games industry has also seen a bloated budget issue just like Hollywood recently with games and films costing an extortionate amount of money to make now.
Damn Sony fans don’t support their exclusives 🤣🤣😂😂
They sold Rebirth at 80 euros. That is my main reason why i had to show a lot of restraint and buy it at the next discount.
I think sony is lying to try and convince people like me who choose to wait in fear that the last final fantasy 7 might be can canceled.
Good. I just wanna buy stuff for PC.
Would also be supercool if they could port FF14 to Switch 2 🎉
So there’s hope I can play the last part of FF7R before it gets spoiled by me having to wait a year.
Now all I need is for them to put out a collectors edition as the FF7 game has a real special place for me.
Thank the gods above. Hated waiting like 5 years for PS exclusives to come to PC. Exclusives are a dogshit idea from top to bottom
Finally, these”bootleg” computers get way too much respect for being super low end PCs
Maybe all these companies are finally reaching their limit and the implosion is soon gonna happen.
They’re always disappointed one way or another… I dare them to make FF17 a LIVE Service with NFT in it.
Indie Devs: “we are happy, we sold enough to finance our next project”
AAA Devs to shareholders: “We failed to sell the game to every single person in the world, we are sorry, we will focus on a live service next…”
Now the PS5 got even less game lmaoaoaoao
I would love to buy those games but we’re going through a cost of living crisis right now in america.
with rebirth, crisis core, and 16, coming out back to back, I haven’t been able to buy any new games cuz I just don’t have the cash right now
So many great games but we keep hearing that it’s not enough for the greed machine. Seems like something needs to change from the top. Seems like some of these company heads need to start leading from the front.
Expanding FF7 into three parts was a mistake. I’m not into it enough to get triple dipped. Exclusives are anti-consumer anyway, the more available a product is the better it is for everyone except the exploiters. The biggest thing the PS5 has is its exclusives, but I’m not dropping $500 for the privilege of owning 3 $70 games. I can get way more gameplay and value from buying indie games on steam or one of the other PC stores.
PS5 is more expensive here in EU than at release in 2020. Of course no one buys a new console if it’s that expensive. Good for Square to move on to other platforms!!
It’s just the end of console exclusivity when even the platform holders are going multi-platform (except for Nintendo).
The thing that concerns me is Xbox and Nintendo both have limiting hardware, larian couldn’t get BG3 on Xbox because they force companies to make versions for both consoles and the less powerful one couldn’t handle the game, they had to go out of their way to jam it into being playable and the switch is probably older than some people watching this, as we’ve seen from monster hunter making Nintendo games multiple platform tanks the games potential
Ff7 remake also had the benefit, that alot of people thought they’d get to play the whole game and not just the midgar portion, many people of the general public were still surprised that the game just stopped after midgar
look the most easy money is the porting PC & Switch 2 day and date SE in japan market is nothing but tanked
Let them out of business as well so that they are sorry for their dirty deal with the devil
Squenix logic:
1. Put games exclusively on a console that was only buyable from scalpers for many years & the hype went down.
2. Sony doesn’t support account creation to 70% of the world & their anti-cosumer practices.
3. Sell NFTs!!
4. Where profit?
Fucking Finally.
When I learned Vincent Valentine wasn’t playable, my interest for the game dropped.
I really wanna know what their expectations are lol
Idk, the main benefit I can see for a game being on a single platform is that the developers will be able to optimize better because they will put all of their resources into one version. Without exclusivity, they will have to optimize more versions, which means they have to spread resources. So, they will either have to increase the overall budget, or extend the development time to achieve the same type of game size/polish. Which will also increase budget. They will probably have to downsize their games in order to stay within the same amount of money spent per game.
Ff7 remake released on pc later, so why playing an inferior version on consoles?
This so called next Gen let’s you play either blurry 60 fps or high quality 30 fps…
Ff16 was just bad. I won’t even buy it on pc if it releases there. Return of the glorious insufferable QTEs lol. (remember the gate with 3 QTEs just to get through it?)
Most of them, if not all, you can’t even miss.
At least in Asura’s wrath it was well done.
Square Enix probably sets some of the highest and craziest sales expectations in the industry. For all we know they could be doing a few to ten million copies sold and it still wouldn’t hit their targets.
I think a lot of people try remake and was like nah it’s not the FF7 remake we all wanted and to push it even further I think everyone though FF7 remake series would be 1 whole game but instead it’s 3 different games were you have to start over and that’s a major turn off when you gotta spend 210 dollars for all 3 when it finally release which took more then 10 years to release.
Meh, arguable if their really that “great”. Both games had strong week 1 sales thanks to the fandom, but once word of mouth got out about both games, sales dropped HARD. They also didn’t sale as well as past games. It’s mainly just critics and a fraction of fans that like the game. Zero growth beyond and they alienated a lot of old fans.
Release your stuff on Game Pass
I don’t have any problem with this so long as the sales numbers on other platforms do prove this point. Otherwise what’s the point as the gaming community has no love for jrpgs anymore in the west if they can’t sell well enough for SQUARE ENIX investors to make more remakes and new ip? I may sound cynical and pessimistic here but history has shown this downward trend since 2016 here.
I don’t understand why some people freak out about exclusives being shared to other platforms? It can only be good for gamers if these companies that make console selling games, expand their market to other consoles. Bottom line if all games are available on all consoles, the game creators get bigger budgets for future games as well as it makes the console creators have to deliver a better console than the competition. Competition is GREAT for consumers of said product.
Wait for the NFT plug.
I actually believe that all but (most of) the board members at Square understand what sales should be like when they do exclusive releases in some capacity. Be it Japan only release, PS5 only release, etc. I think their problem with this is that there’s a mix of people who 1) feel they should only work with Sony because it’s Japanese and 2) feel like their Japanese audience is enough to offset global audiences… somehow. Much like elsewhere in the world, Japanese shareholders and boards aren’t exactly the smartest people of the bunch. They just have money, but that doesn’t translate to common sense intelligence. “There’s 5 million PS5 owners in Japan. Why aren’t we meeting our goal of selling 15 million copies of a FF7 Rebirth in Japan alone?”
As a PC player this is good news to me
I’m willing to bet as soon as those 2 games hit PC their sales will sky rocket. Because I’m one of the guys it’s waiting for final fantasy 7 2 hit pc before I jump on it. I honestly haven’t touched my playstation in close to half a year. With the last game I played on it being the DLC for God of war Ragnarok. Most of my gaming is done on pc. The only council I play with any regularly Is the Nintendo switch. And that’s pretty much because I can take it with me on the girl. Sony used to have a system that allowed them to do that they decided that they weren’t going to support it anymore not even a full year and a half after they released it……. And then they shut down the store that used it and still made indie games for it. And that was their Vida. They were just sad that they couldn’t compete with the gameboys.
It’s about damn time
Every square game I’ve wanted to play but don’t have a playstation. Had to wait 2 years for FFXV, 2 years for FF7 Remake, and its going to be another 2 years for rebirth and 16.
The Foamstars one I completely expected since it tried to compete with Splatoon which is already on the niche side as far as shooters go, and you make it worse by making it a cheap imitation instead of a competitor and litter it with microtransactions, something Splatoon never had.
Well, final fantasy exclusive has always been only on 1 gaming system. Ff 1-6 was a Nintendo exclusive. FF7 jumped to playstation because n64 couldn’t handle the graphics at that time. So ff7-16 been playstation exclusive . Nintendo Switch is doing great in Japan because it is portable and also still a Japanese company. Playstation 5 is not portable, plus it became an American company, so that’s why it is not doing well in Japan.
Gabes strategy wins again, all the companies come crawling
If only Nintendo could stop shoving their head far up on their ass , perhaps they would make profit. Console exclusivity is probably the dumbest thing.
Give the people what they really want, a 3D ff6 remake with the same quality of the FF7 remake. Kefka was the best video game villain of all time.
Unless Sony is giving them much more money then they would make selling the game elsewhere its not worth it for them. TBH unless Sony is directly funding the game i wouldn’t go exclusive your just damaging yourself if you do exclusives.
It’s hard to feel sorry for a company that has gleefully fallen for every single silicon valley grift for the last half decade. Also, SE has been calling like 75% of the shit they make disappointments going back to the Tomb Raider reboot in 2013 (I’m sure it goes back further than that) which was “below expectations” because it ONLY sold 5 million copies. Just an awful company ran by complete fools you could sell the Brooklyn bridge to.
This is good news for consumers. SE isn’t owned by Sony, I never understood why they keep handing them console exclusivity and a free one year pass before a PC release. I get Sony paid but was that cheque bigger than losing access to xbox and delaying the PC release? I find that hard to believe.
If Square Enix think selling their games on Xbox consoles and PC is going to substantially increase sales…then I think they’re going to be very disappointed.
I’m really wondering who constantly makes the way to high sales predictions at square. It also shows that making games just to satisfy the shareholders is not a good idea.
I could never understand game companies always doing exclusive on certain consoles. If they worry about numbers then sell it on all platforms.
Yes, please go back to FF on the SNES.
Would have bought both if they were on PC. Who knows when that will happen, probably won’t be anytime soon
Takashi Mochizuti is a liar and has a complete bias over FF16 and FF7 rebirth
I really don’t play many Square Enix games but I always thought a PS5 exclusive approach with that flag ship title was strange.
Unless your first party.
Don’t do it.
YongYea is a masterclass in how to talk as much as possible without really saying much. Constant chronic redundancy masked by use of different synonyms etc.. he somehow always manages to produce a 15minute talking head video that has 2 minutes worth of information.
Exclusivity is bad, sure go multiplatform. But this is least of their problems. As someone who plays mostly Asian games I don’t give a rat’s ass about their games anymore. They burn too many bridges with me.
Changing the story of beloved classic games, is also going to lose you sales.
Is FF16 even a JRPG?
That’s what you get for investing in the mental illness that was NFTs.
my 5k usd pc is thankful
Consumers don’t want live service games while also paying a full premium price for them. They really don’t lol. All they gotta do is go back to the old way of making games.
Both being a single player story driven game, I imagine that the PC audience that may have wanted the game simply lost interest when the game is initially release on the console exclusively several months or a year ahead. And when it finally releases on the PC there are other newer game options that people may want to try simply because its fresh. Its how I felt when I wanted to play FF7 remake.
I’m waiting for the PS5 Pro version because of the resolution
The last minute censorship and ugly NPCs in FF7 Rebirth didn’t help sales. 😑
I ran a business for 30 years. What executive made the decision to make the game exclusive on a single platform that doesn’t even have market share? There are more PC players than any other platform, yet they decided to give exclusivity to a console platform. That’s simply a stupid decision from the get-go, regardless of supposed “favorable” terms with Sony. Market share always drives profits. If I was on the Board that person would be gone.
Square Enix: Rebirth
The worst FF titles has tremendous amounts of sales while the good ones aren’t 😂😂😂
Playstation fanboys gonna rage up again
I think the biggest mistake they made is making the game a PS5 exclusive while the PS5 has no games. (At best 6 games) Thus, there are more people with a ps4 than ps5. I bet the numbers would have been far greater if they made it a PS4 and a PS5 exclusive.
dawg I’m still playing BG3 I only have so much time
Remember that Square Enix executives want ff16 and ff7 rebirth to hit sales numbers attune to God of War Ragnarok.
PS5 install base is fairly small compared to PS4. Next gen consoles in general have way less install base than previous gen in the same amount of time and then they agree to an exclusive lol.
More people are gaming on pc now than ever as well.
sounds like cope to the fact they didnt sell by their own merit
FF7 Rebirth was SE’s fault. They should’ve known that direct sequels, no matter how popular the game is, will sell LESS than the original because new people will have to buy and play the first game just to catch up to the next game, especially if there’s no recap or quite simply if the game is a direct sequel.
It’s just how it is, if you have to start from scratch, no one will buy your sequel at launch.
Also SE’s fault by making this “remaster” a trilogy for no reason.
they treat customers outside of Playstation badly and then wonder why it’s not selling well…
I still haven’t bought FF7:Remake, and it’ll be the same for FF16, they made me wait for the release, at this point I’m just going to wait a bit more for a huge discount.
Not like it would have sold on xbox they dont purchase full priced games anyways lol
Who could have expected that limiting your market to one crap ass console would have a negative impact on your sales? Wow revolutionary.
After the shenanigans Sony been pulling lately, I wouldn’t limit myself to one platform either. Xbox ain’t no better because of the layoffs, if fact that’s even worse, but still these bigger games deserve a bigger audience to play them.
Makes me wonder though when they release FF 7 part 3, will they eventually make a Final Fantasy Collection with all 3 parts and put them on multiple platforms or eventually just have all three separately on all platforms.
tbh ff16 wasn’t going get a purchase from me on my xbox or ps5 they can keep that shit but ff7 rebirth was deff going do “odd” numbers being a middle child of a confirmed trilogy ,not to mention it just felt crowded in its release slot with 7 other triple A titles releasing weeks b4 and after it
Ah so now the PS Fanboys can be mad at this instead of the HD community.
FF16 and FF7R’s result scared them soo bad that they changed tactics immediately
I mean rebirth is over 100 hrs game that is AAA!!! They spent alot and no one showed up!! 😅
Meeting SE’s sales expectations isn’t possible for any game. And I’m sure it will get better for them if they release their games on the dying Xbox too… 😂
Besides it sounds like they were forced to release the games exclusive on PS but they took the money from Sony?? So what’s the deal?? And maybe the audience gets exhausted from all the Final Fantasy. Same will happen sooner or later with AC and Ubisoft.
Remake/Rebirth are some of the most padded, boring games I’ve ever played. They ruin the OG’s legacy. If that gameplay did not have the FF7 cosplay on they would get review scores of like 65/100 max.
The short term sweet fat check from Playstation gas now has a bittersweet taste moving forward.
Finally, the stupidity ends.
It’s almost as if limiting your platform options will limit your potential sales, who could have ever guessed that would happen?
I don’t have a PS5…and I don’t plan on getting one
Took them long enough to realize the downsides of sticking to a single platform exclusive for their games. Now give us them PC ports already!
Helldivers 2 released day one on pc and sold just as well as ps5 maybe even more so by making their games exclusive they are reducing their sells by half 😂😂
The only ones defending or mad about this are the dumb sony and microsoft fanboys. Square needs to learn that the quality of their games is the problem. Exclusivity isnt even on the map. The ps5 has sold over 50 million units. FF7 rebirth only sold around 2M copies. A game like Horizon and God of war both sold around the 10M copies. As much as fanboys and pc consolers crazy to get the game into their hands want to yap about this, its not their problem. Its quality of the game. FF7 rebirth is the 2nd game in a trilogy, of an unfinished story that spans years of your attention. Its also an old story thats better told on the original game, its not a new IP or a new story that grips players. The gameplay is decent, but its not revolutionary, so theres that too.
Forget exclusivity, make a better game.
If square wants to do gangbusters they should make FF18 a action mmo with the same writing and story teams as FF14.
SQEnix won’t be happy even if they sell more copies than the total human population
Sony has always fucked their dev companies by forcing exclusivity. At least all Xbox games go to PC and most to ps as well, so they can get a huge sales figure.
Square would also be saying these games failed to reach their goal even if they were on PC and Xbox. They said the same about Guardians of the Galaxy, Sleeping Dogs, Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Juat Cause… all of those were multiplatform.
I’m a big FF14 fan and I bought a PS5 to play FF16. I was left mixed on FF16 and regret buying a ps5.
I don’t think it’s just a console exclusivity issue: Final Fantasy is known as a JRPG series, and neither of these games are JRPGs. They’re action games.
They’re not bad games, I like both a lot. But they’re lousy RPGs.
I don’t know if this means the games we love are beginning to die or not, but it is a really scary time for this industry.
PlayStation plus 🤢🤮
honestly, fuck them shareholders.
Backlog is so extremely large nowadays
Should’ve been done ages ago.
I _really_ hope this means we can get older exclusives ported to other consoles and PC.
man, covid really gave companies unreal expectations of what people will do.
Surprised pikachu … nope
Wait, you mean to tell me that restricting where your products are sold can actually hurt the sales of said products?
😮
The fact that art is so beholden to these investors is frankly disgusting…
Join me when I say: Fuck the investor.
What do they expect?
There aren’t enough people in the world to produce sales high enough to fit their projections. But on the other hand, the FF series isn’t a real time action game so it was successful when players didn’t have an abundance of more dynamic games but now that we have tons and the actual FF fans grew up (they are so old that some of us are old enough to die of old age…damn) and went to work, they don’t have hours upon hours to wait through all that stuff and would instead play something like the Zelda series or at least something more dynamic. Not to mention the Switch is cheaper and a more self-contained hardware than the PS5, very little subscription push for a single player game obviously (while some FF games have non-optional subscription afaik)…
Overall I don’t think the suits above have any idea of anything if having 5-7 million units sold doesn’t reach their expectations.
Sony must be payin em the bux anymore…
Ah, so Square is learning what Xbox did in like 2016, and learned again in 2024. You make less money making your games console exclusive. Even if you make a killer app. Most people don’t have the money to go out and buy a PS5, if they already have an Xbox or PC.
I would play the shit outta Foam Stars if it was on PC. I liked Splatoon, just hated having to play it with the switch cons.
The whole way that games are said to be successful is stupid
Man, that’s shocking news.😅 Seriously, if they plan to do a reconstruction and expand to other platforms, then I hope to see KH4 soon enough.
i hope i can play FF16 in pc
I’m not a gamer, but watch your channel sometimes. It seems to me the gaming industry is going the same way as the music industry. Either sell a billion copies or it won’t get published. This always always results in future products being bland and boring. Not to imagine I stopped going to the cinema because every movie is now based an a formula, with the sole hope of maximizing profit.
I’ve never heard of Screenix before. Oh wait, it’s YongYea, never mind.
Sale is not good? You mean not enough to feed all those shareholders’ big tummy
All I want is the final fantasy tactics remake….. please don’t let that be cancelled haha.
At least in this case, Square for once having excessively expectations (and Sony’s haemorrhaging incompetence) gets us these good games without having to enslave ourselves to data breaches.
They announced that FF7 and FFXVI will be a timed exclusive then shove it later on. Now they’re crying because the sales is bad.
Also making a multiplayer game exclusive lile Fomestars is just stpd
>Limiting releases to only one part of market segment.
>Surprise Pikachu Face when sales are also limited.
So before Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 remake, and Final Fantasy 7 rebirth release on PC those games can still take full advantage of the PlayStation 5 pros architect and that PSSR or PlayStation Specter resolution.
They do have square in their name.
Square didn’t learn at all, so when ppl gets disappointing from your ip that means u should listen to the ppl not force them into 40 long hrs game full of grinding and stalling over an epic story, and the question here why rockstar games always sells well the answer is the key instead of blaming sony and stop the exclusivesivity just to sell more 30k copy
Also square enix: “epic store exclusive”
I only just remembered Foamstars when this article dropped 😅😂
Go exclusive, go broke. Hopefully more developers start supporting gamers and stop taking Sony bribes. Let’s get final fantasy everywhere. A win for consumers. Plus who wants Sony censorship anyway.
forgoing exclusivity also mean forgoing exclusivity funding from SONY.
now they have to carry all the cost themselves.
personally i don’t mind if last part of Final fantasy 7 going to be smaller in scale and inferior graphics.
I think they would’ve sold more copies of the final fantasy 7 remake games if they stayed closer to original instead of completely changing it. I’m not saying that they would’ve met or surpassed their goal, but I think it would’ve been more than they did sell.
Just gonna point up that people on twitter tallied things up and it turns out Square Enix has had more Nintendo exclusives and multiplatfrom games than they have had PS exclusives, and that those PS exclusives have been their best profitable games in the past 4 years. So it would have been nice for you, Yong, to do a bit of research before spitting out the incorrect headlines like all the other journalists around. The numbers are Nintendo exclusives: 9. PS exclusives: 6. Multiplat: 32.
Not to mention the cheapest version of the game costs 87USD in some regions (like where I live), yeah, that is an easy skip
PC MUSTARD RACE
I hope their next major title is KH4
Aside from layoffs, I’m glad they’re learning the right lessons from this. I think it’s too frequent that a AAA studio runs into financial trouble, and they scale down on everything except live service games
Arent they getting a little bit to greedy?
I honestly think it’s just that people are over Final Fantasy
When ff7 Rebirth hits PC, they will double their money and pay for the last installment. Its a brilliant game with an absurd amount of content and ZERO microtransactions. It deserves to win and all the ppl who worked on it should be proud
honestly I’m starting to see my ps5 as not worth it at this point if all of the supposed “exclusives” are just going to eventually make their way to pc… There aren’t a lot of wholly ps5 exclusives and by that I mean only on ps5, not the ones that are on ps4 and ps5. I loved my ps4 but the ps5 just seems somewhat worse in comparison. Sure graphically its obviously better but it suffers in a lot of other regards. The UI sucks, there are no longer any themes, the media player is just a straight downgrade from the ps4 (no favorites function, music interface is terrible.) Does anyone know of any ps5 exclusives on the horizon that are strictly for the ps5?
I’m not sure how they would take this action and not expect this. Did they expect people who don’t own a PS5 to buy the game?
All these headlines are so misleading and its fucked up that even you mislead too. FF7 rebirth, and FF16 are literally some of the only games that made them money. They lost money on every other shit title they made.
Lol i only have the ps4 soooo I consider this a win
About time…
Rich people not getting richer is not a tragedy at all, it’s a good thing.
Not being able to play a game because it’s not available in your console, it’s not bad, it’s only unfortunate. Nothing bad comes from not being able to play a game.
have to question the logic of expecting huge sales on 1 platform instead of a larger crowd ?
Ff7 rebirth was simply too boring. World felt bland and combat was a sponge fest. Mini games were annoying too
Even successful game such as Elden Ring, less than 30% are PS5 player, which is roughly 3.5M copies at launch. Not sure what their expectation was for their PS5 exclusive title…. 🤷🏻♂️
I’ll keep waiting for PC release
Even God of War Ragnarok out sold Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, plus why are xbox players happy about FF going multiplatform? They don’t even like weeb shit 😏
Music to my ears. And yes Yong it’s definitely an issue of quality. After a string of mediocre titles, the FF brand has no reputation left to spend, and it’s really amusing to see SE desperately try to catch a captive audience to sell their most recent digital slop to. Anyone who think it’s just because of exclusivity is on some columbian grade copium.
I for one am looking forward to seeing their uncritical fanboys continue enabling them into hemorrhaging even more cash to produce shiny piles of heaping shit.
That quote about “relying too much on an individual’s creativity”… are they talking about an individual in general, or someone specific? Maybe someone like… Nomura??
Anyway, putting all the blame on exclusivity is foolish. Look at the sales numbers. FF sales have been tanking, especially in Japan, since FF 15.
People are more broke, and they should have never broken that into multiple releases
Hope they can port more dq
Finaly.
Im owner ps5 + pc
This is SE logic. Sony sold 20m units of PS5. SE expecting FF7 and FF16 40m units shipped.
If Playstation lose its exclusives, Nintendo Switch should also lose their as well, equality right.
I am happy to see that companies finally start to shift towards a no-exclusivity future.
Well…. Square finally realizing that exclusivity is a bad idea if you want a high sales number… Which is obvious to anyone with half a brain. Also they might wanna stop talking about pushing NFTs and shit, that also turns off their customer base.
Ya no shit. I’ve been waiting for over a year for ff16 to drop on Pc. No one who spent 1k+ on a pc is going to spend another 600 on q ps4 just to play 1 game.
When I hear the word “shareholder”, I throw up in my mouth a bit..
Time for Squeenix to absorb a third publisher probably. That’s how things seem to be working these days
It’s almost as if limiting your audience is a terrible idea when you want to sell to as many as possible.
i mean.. these people are dumb… OfCourse you gonna have less earning if you are limiting yourself to only the PS5 community… they have ..what? 50 millions units sold? OFCOURSE you gonna earn more money if you can ALSO sell to the PC crowd… steam alone has 140 million users?
SE made a smart move.
As a PS5 owner, I don’t get exclusivity from third parties. I understand why Microsoft and Sony would benefit from the service engagement from exclusivity.
Sounds like now would be the time to stop the Epic Games Store exclusivity for Kingdom Hearts there Square Enix.
That’s not the problem, lol. The problem is the gameplay. Go back to your roots, and maybe we will come back. It’s probably already too late, though. Millions have moved on. 6 duds in a row will do that.
AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Who are you going to believe, regarding this situation at Square-Enix? Their own financial report, stating that FF16 and FF7 Rebirth were some of their “financial highlights”, with a “solid performance”(even promoting Rebirth’s director to an executive position in the company, one month after the game released)….. Or are you going to believe Takashi nobody Mochizuki?!?!
Seriously, who the hell is this guy?? Why should we care what he says?
Who would have thought that narrowing your audience would narrow your profits?
They did too much “fan service” with rebirth and also failed to resolve the ONE issue fans of the series wanted to see turn out differently than the original…
The Playstation exclusivity always dissapoonts me. I REALLY want to buy both final fantasy games, but it doesn’t make sense for me to get a PS5 for just a small handful of games. Really crossing my fingers for a FF16 PC release in the next couple years.
SquareEnix Corporate: WE WILL SELL INFINITE COPIES DURING THE FIRST WEEK!!
“All failed to meet SquareEnix’s expectations”
What a surprise.
I’m not overall optimistic about this change (yet), but it’s a start.
Not really that surprising. The PS5 has sort of been struggling since its launch. It was and probably continues to be out of stock in many places. Not to mention nearly every game that’s released for PS5 is also made available on PS4. Even P3R got a PS4 release. There’s just not a lot of incentive to upgrade
Lol bout time these japs figure it out ps4 deserves ff7 rebirth
And this is why I don’t want Sony to buy Square Enix.
They can use that excuse for 16 coz it was something new and fresh, but VII should have been a slam dunk… they screwed up so horrifically with the first VII and its incredibly cringe story telling that people generally want nothing to do with it, no matter how good the “game” part of the game might be. Legitimately some of the worst story telling in a game in years
Good.
Wow crazy how only releasing on 1 platform really limits the sales. Who could have guessed, definitely not everyone saying if you want more money don’t be exclusive.
FF 16 and FF 7 Remake wont sell on xbox, because the sales of the console are so low now, and it will not go on gamepass
just saying after all yoshi P hardwork, executive idiot always make bonker decision, undermine all those hardwork
It’s always hard for me to take them seriously when they say “They’re disappointed” with how the game performed when they say that with all of their games that come out🤦🏾♂️
I jumped the Final Fantasy train way back after FF13… and looking at FF15 and FF16, I never had the urge to play the series again.
or alternatively, it’s your own fault for all the weird nft and microtransaction bs plus…ya need to write something else guys. you were never gonna pull what you wanted with a part 2 of a remake and, count it, the 16th entry…
and personally, I’m tired of the millionth guy with good looks has a tragic back story to look cool and saves the world. I’d rather play as anyone else since so many other characters are more interesting than you…
They should just let team asano make ff17 and give them money to make bravely third.
Considering how expensive the development costs are nowadays, the simple fact that exclusivity exists is even ridiculous, it’s obvious the game would sell less with something like that. Specially considering PS5/Xbox Series S and X is the worst console generation
I mean to limit themself, timeexclisive, to one platform is one thing but there are other things that come on top. You have their NFT bullshit that cost them a lot of money and Square Enix is known to have to high expectations. What for most publishers and developers is successfull is for Square Enix a disappointment or failure if you will.
Well that happens when you stop making game from original jrpg to action rpg only to please new generation of people that cant play games
Maybe FF7Rebith’s coming sooner to Steam? – would like that
Good, lol it doesn’t matter what year it is nobody owns a ps5 and nobody’s gonna buy one
I guess were going back to AA games now huh
Oh wow I wonder why😂
Release multi platform for more sales and fun…
Pls Helldiver🎉
Can we get those switch exclusives also ? 👀🙏 dragon quest mainly
I thought FF7 rebirth was only a 3 month exclusive?
“Not available on other platforms until at least 29/05/2024”
ff7 and rebirth are not going any where a sony rep already stated that about a month ago nintendo and xbox will never see daylight on there consoles same for ff16 the final ff 7 will be ps exclusive as well going forward thing will be multiplatform .
I mean what did they expect? Should have at least launched simultaneously with PC.
When you start charging 150 bux for a game (im my country.) what do you thinks gonna happen exactly? Absolutely fucking clueless..
I agree going non-exclusive will bring in more money, but also SE had some out of touch expectations on how much their games would sell. 16 sold over 3 million copies the month of its release. SE always likes to act like each AAA title is going to break the world but none has done that in the Enix era.
That’s good news for gamers.
It was an idiotic strategy to begin with, esp. given that the multiplatform FFXV was one of the best-selling FF games of all time.
Customers conpletely lost their trust of SE due to the horrible game that is ffxv.
It’s tied to ffii and ffv as the worst entries of the series.
For me, Final Fantasy has lost it’s way, confused how it’s going to move forward.
Is it action game, is it RPG, as along time fans since 90s i don’t know anymore.
Since XV i feel like FF trying to be something else just to get new audience while alienating their loyal fans.
I want it to stay on it’s path like SMT or DQ.
If they want to make new gameplay, make a spinoff title.
Ponies don’t buy let alone play games. They just like to talk about gaming on Twitter 😂
Square Enix publish a multitude of game series, but I’m just thinking about Final Fantasy right now. Fans of the FF series game across all platforms. It’s no effing surprise that SE doesn’t give a shit about that until they miss their revenue mark. Greed is everywhere. Square is just like EA. Watch what happens in the future when they release AAA titles on all platforms simultaneously and they still don’t meet their quota. Surprise Mechanics and in-game advertisements will be in FF games. You, as a gamer – and their customer – don’t matter. Money does.
And if I’m not mistaken Crisis Core Final Fantasy 7 reunion did just fine because it released on every platform
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It’s because they released FF7 rebirth all over the place. Just make one game, not like multiple parts on PS4 and PS5. They managed to do that for the original release of FF7, how come they can’t do that now? They said they’d release the other parts on PS4 and we have yet to see them.
I mean, if you’re limiting yourself to one console, you shouldn’t set an absurdly high expectation on returns
10 years ago 5 million copies would have been massive profits, now ya selling 5 million just to maybe break even.
But yeah sticking to 1 platform didn’t really help lol
Now their sales will be disappointing at multiple platforms, great.
It’s almost like if you limit your target audience, you sell less copies
Publicly traded companies are a menace to society. They want constant growth at the expense of everthing else.
Fuck playstation, i was looking forward to trying Ghost of Tsushima, but their bullshit put an end to that idea…..
Who would have thought.jpeg
Still won’t make a Playstation account.
For normal people, that’d be a sign that their expectations were stupid.
And the fact that they had expectations at all for Foamstars is a sign that they’re stupid.
I still dont even know anyone with a ps5. Am I broke?
Final Fantasy 16 and 7 on Nintendo is a hard ask. Those are the best looking games I’ve ever seen, no way switch 2 will be able to play them. XBox might not even exist. PC has been getting FF’s for years, but delaying the release is a bad idea. You can never appease the investors, because investors are greedy. They want more money without working and people wonder why most major religions consider greed a sin.
They complain that sales didn’t meet their expectations yet they made a decision to only sell on one platform when they didn’t have to. The people in charge there have to go.
are you going to make a video about assassin’s creed shadow Nigsuke backlash?
Cool! I’m all for the death of console exclusivity. Never liked it. Stupid. Sad FF7R didn’t sell as well as it was expected to. I still haven’t bought it, but it’s mainly cause I’m broke. Itherwise I would have. Hopefully they still keep going with it.
Well just because a game is good doesn’t mean it will always sell.
I think the true problem is that Square enix expects top-tier profits…In a crippling current recession, and that just doesn’t make sense at all.
Not everybody can afford a $70 game, and to think that people would be flying in droves with all these layoffs, and inflation everywhere is not only laughable, but borderline knee-slapping satire. Of course their expensive games didn’t sell well! It’s bad times all around. People might buy the game; it’s still way below the millions it took to make the games.
Corporates makes games exclusive…
Surprises that games don’t meet their expectations…
Geez i wonder why…
Ff7 rebirth’s sales actually hit the mark with square stating they hit the standard and are happy with its results
The reason for these changes is due to squares other projects that have released that haven’t been hitting budget
While rebirth sold less than remake that is to be expected with remake being extremely anticipated and being the first part while releasing at a time where everyone was at home
The direction square is moving in and any actions is due to there other projects not ff7
Just clearing that up
Well, I’m hype for rebirth, and i own a PS5, but I’m still holding out for the PC release.
better for squarenix to go bankrupt so sony could buy them, so ff will stay exclusive.
I genuinely wonder what sort of leash Sony is holding Squeenix under, cuz I think multiplatform = more sales should be common sense. There’s no need to go about complicated mental acrobatics to come to this solution… There has to be a reason why Squeenix can’t do this early on. Did sony provide fundings for their game development as well?
Square isnt going to be happy until one of their games is a GTA V style money printer.
Here is the thing, GTA V is on everything. 3 console generations of everything (excluding Nintendo).
I actualy wanted to try FF16. Bring that shit to switch!
Honestly… Fuck Sony! I used to think they where the best out of the 3, guess I was wrong.
It’s almost like making Devil May Fantasy and a really bad Splatoon knock off isn’t what anyone asked for. I don’t play Final Fantasy for hack and slash games. If I wanted to play Splatoon, I’d start it on my Switch. FF7 remake was too much of a departure for me. I don’t want this weird battle system. Just remake the game. AS IT WAS. The really great thing about the recent Dragon Quest games is that they don’t try to be something they are not. They are a turn based JRPG. Final Fantasy should have stayed that way too.
Square eniux definitely made enough sales from Final Fantasy 16. and FF7 rebirth. Their corperate jargon and rediculous expectations are going to carry over to all platforms now.
I’m calling it now, they will say for their next big release “Didn’t meet sales expectations” just because 90% of the total players on every platform didn’t buy their game.
FF16 literally sold around their expected amount, however they kept changing the goal line and now they are complaining. LMFAO.
the company is not going bankrupt, they’ll be fine as long as they correct that atrocity of business strategy.
Id buy it with a xbox , even though its hard to stand up for microsoft its all i have
I’m not sure how much more money SE can make on something like FF7RE. PS5 has an install base 5x the size of xbox. I guess PC sales might help?
your daily reminder that capitalism is a cancer and it is literally just a thing that metastasizes. they like to call it growth…
Can only speak to myself, but F the ff7 remakes. They sht on the only thing I wanted. Ff7 but with better. So F ff7 and F square. 😊
Never played any FF game but I’ll definitely buy FF7 rebirth when it comes to PC.
Who knew stopping people from being able to buy your game would lead to lower sales 🤷?
Wow, I honestly didn’t even know Square Enix mad Forspoken.😥
They say this now but watch Sony give them another blank check and they’ll go right back at it lol
For sure they’ll do PC along with PS5 (that was the plan for 16 but they cut that out after the debut trailer) and maybe Switch 2 if the specs are good. Current Xbox is possible but considering how low their console sales are, especially in Japan, would it be worth it just to get another half million in sales?
Finally, games should not be console exclusive.
Money talks, but mine just waves goodbye! 😂💸
What? The console they couldn’t produce enough of and was inaccessible to the actual gamer for two years posed an install base challenge? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.
NOW PUT KINGDOM HEARTS 3 AND COLLECTION ON STEAM ALREADY
It took way too long for the ps5s to stay in stock. I always been a die hard Sony fan. But because of that. I don’t play ps at all anymore. I only play steam deck. I feel like many people are drawn away from ps due to it taking so long for them to get a ps5. Hopefully square eniq does expand to pc sooner as well as Santa Monica and fromsoftware
When they signed these exclusivity deals, it was in the middle of the PS4’s life time. XBox was faltering, Nintendo was still reeling from the WiiU, and Square never focused on PC. At the time, a Sony exclusivity deal probably seemed like a no brainer.
The big take away here is that not everyone has a PS5 or wants to spent the high prices for it, and have a PS4 that still has games released for it. Every single gaming company that didn’t make a version for the PS4 are the ones to blame for their shortfall. It’s not rocket science. I don’t support companies that can, but don’t and won’t. Release a lesser version on the PS4 i.e less particles and more optimised 3D models with upscaled resolutions. I know, my training taught me to use the available editors and 3D modelling programs like the Autodesk suite and Unreal etc to optimise for different platforms. You can get Mortal Kombat 11 working on a mid range phone for example, I have ported Mario Kart 8 for the Wii U to the Wii, simply by unpacking the files and downgrading models and effects and many other things. I had to get rid of the anti gravity and make the karts stick to the track and other tricks like trigger points to allow them to jump upside down etc. The game was no where near as good, but was doable. There wouldn’t be anywhere near as many limitations for FF16 working on the PS4, so it’s nothing more than an excuse in my mind, when they could have done it and made more sales. If I can get a copy of all the files for FF16, unpack all the binaries and libraries, optimise and modify half the resource expensive elements, and then I could port it myself, but as I found out the hard way, reverse engineering and redeveloping other people’s IP can get you in trouble.
Reality: It’s a great success!
Expectation: It needs to make infinite money, instantaneously!
Shareholders: Performance is poor. SELL, SELL, SELL!
Consoles are dying
While making these games PS5 exclusive(or at least a timed-exclusive) was always going to cause the sales to be lower than it would have been otherwise due to a smaller customer base, let’s be real: When was the last time that Squenix *didn’t* say that a game they released failed to meet their expectations? To me it seems more like they just keep setting sales expectations way too high and haven’t figured out that despite being a big-name studio with big-name franchises that doesn’t just mean they can release something and expect INFINITE MONEY.
Of course there’s also plenty of other factors to take into account. One of the big ones would be the rising cost of AAA game development. It’s costing more and more money and more and more time to make a game that qualifies as ‘AAA’ then it did a couple console generations ago, which isn’t really something that the company themselves can fully control, because there’s a lot more factors to it outside of just gaming that I’m not going to get into here. Then there’s the fact that AAA games are turning out less and less polished on release which negatively impacts their reception and sales. Again, a lot of things that go into that, though that *is* in the devs(or rather the higher ups) control.
The fact that AAA is no longer the gold standard has also led to the rise of indie games and an increase in sales in that market, with more people opting to chose them rather than the AAA game. After all, why would people buy a $70 game that isn’t even that good when they can get three $20 indie games that are just as good if not better and still have ten bucks left over?
And that’s not even getting into all of the PR disasters that Squenix specifically has had, that’s just been the general gaming market! Squenix’s baffling insistence on trying to promote NFT and blockchain and crypto despite pretty much all of their customers telling them “don’t do this, it’s a bad idea, we don’t want it, we’re not going to buy into it if you do do it so just save us all the time and yourselves the money and drop it”, as well as their live-service flops with Babylon’s Fall and Avengers, which definitely didn’t help things, and then selling off beloved studios like Crystal Dynamics. Looking back, the failures of Babylon’s Fall, Avengers, and Forspoken(well, definitely Forspoken, the other two might be old enough that they’ve already made back the loss elsewhere) is probably also a massive reason for why Squenix set sales expectations for FFXVI and VIIRebirth so high, in order to try and recoup their losses on those games. Had they not gone through with even one of them, I’m sure they wouldn’t be nearly as bothered by the reception that FFXVI and VIIRebirth have had.
So I guess really the takeaway is that what Squenix REALLY needs to do is stop wasting time and money trying to trendchase NFT and live-service garbage and just do what made them so popular to begin with: make good games. Really that applies to any of the various developers that have been having troubles lately(Warner Bros. anyone?), but I digress.
Every day, the rumors of FF7 remake running on the Switch 2 becomes more and more feasible.
hah yen
basically sony isnt paying enough to keep exclusivity. the fact is if you have to wait 1 year after the release of a game before you can play it on a console/pc you own you might as well wait another year for the game to go on sale. the hype is gone.
Didn’t buy FF7 because of how they handled 7 remake. I’m going to wait for the definitive edition. A definite just play, but not a must buy right now.
Who knew limiting your product to only a single platform would result in the lack of sales compared to a full release everywhere you can put it on. Wow.
I hate these types of arguments (This is just like Epic vs steam)… Suck it up some of us are ok with games being exclusive to Playstation, Microsoft and Nintendo.
FF16 is T*@$# what do they expect. 🤮
What? You mean to tell me that only selling your games to only 1/3 of the possible customers is a bad idea?
There’s actually some people out there saying to “just buy a PS5”. Many people can’t shell out $500 dollars on the fly. And even if you can, $500 to play one or two games? I’m good!
On one hand, square enix sets unrealistic sales expectations of their games. On the other, as someone who only plays on PlayStation, it’s good that they are stopping exclusivity. If sales are what will keep your employees employed then screw exclusivity
I didn’t play 16 1st ff I didn’t play since final fantasy 5
It’s all Sony’s fault
FF16 & FF7 Rebirth were sh*t games, that’s why they failed.
GOOOOOOD. Its almost like limiting your fanbase by arbitrary means is fucking STUPID!
shouldve brought it to xbox and PC too, not just PS exclusive
We live in a world where entitled companies think selling 3 million copies is an utter failure. Meanwhile, other studios thanked their fans for the 500k-1m copies sold.
Good. The triple A game space needs to crumble and rebuild itself to rid itself of its bloat
Well, what the hell was square-enix expecting? Were they expecting to sell as well as God of War or Spider-man? FF is popular, but not THAT popular. The sales for FF16 and Rebirth are actually good, its Square’s fault for having too much expectations. Still, by all means, release these games to other platforms, they already served its purpose anyway, and that is to sell more PS5 consoles, so I’m sure Sony is happy.
So PS4 version when?
Nobody makes money when Demoncrats are in charge of the US Government! Especially when Beijing Biden is the Nursing Home Resident of the White House!
i was saving up money to buy FF16 if it came out to pc but it never did so i have to buy something else
FF7 remake / rebirth was very disappointing. Exclusive or not
I don’t know anyone who plays that game anymore. Their path makes sense. This isn’t the early 2000’s anymore.
I would’ve happily paid full price for FF7 remake, rebirth and 16, simultaneous release on console and pc, but square decide to tell me to eat dick, so now I’m waiting for the FF7 remake trilogy to release 10 years down the road at 50% off, and FF16 to eventually hit 75% off, all because SE decide I, a PC gamer, wasn’t worth their time and money
oh well, sucks to be you square
I’m just glad they raised how bad making exclusives are
They were both lack luster game play and story.
Now if only they’d stop the Epic Games Exclusivity.
I wondered how FF16 and FF7R could not meet their expectations, and then I remembered that Square Enix reportedly wanted Tomb Raider to sell 12 million in 6 months, and it makes sense why they’re ‘not happy’.
Can they blame Sony for that? I mean, there are over 50 million Playstation consoles..sure they can get more customers on PC and Xbox, but there is a reason why only a fraction of Sony users bought the game
Haven’t been on this channel since your yakuza performance.
Not only can square Enix games go to other platforms, it can also be ported to older consoles to maximize profit!
No doi, sherlock squarenix. Obviously your sales would be very poor if you only cater exclusively to a console that is still hard to come by. What big brain geniuses the higher ups are for thinking that keeping the product exclusive to a single console would net hugeeeeeee profits….🤦♂️
Maybe I should be the head of square enix since it’s so obvious to everyone else but square enix 🤣🤣🤣
these out of touch investors and exec need to be oust on Gaming companies.
Only 23 hours of cutscenes? Remember when you could play games? Lol.
I’m sorry but no, this ISN’T the main issue Square Enix has. Square Enix’s main problem is setting expectations too high and overspending as a result. Square Enix didn’t take into account FF7’s limiting factors appropriately and thus overspent and were unable to achieve the HIGH expectations. Until they have a shift in how they set their expectations, they will continue to have problems. They will expect too much on other platforms, spend too much on the ports, and fail to meet expectations AGAIN.
dont work with sweet baby inc.,dont censor anything,dont come out with a new years letter stating your gonna double down on NFT’s,FF7 remake wasn’t what alot of people wanted….. its decisions like that are the reason why square enix isn’t doing good…..barely has anything to do with ps5 exclusivity
Every single time a Squeenix game comes out on Playstation I always end up saying “Guess I’ll get it in a year or two”. But what alot of times ends up happening is I’ll either forget it exists, or the hype for it is diminished to the point where I’d either not get it or just wait for a discount. Exclusivity nowadays is just straight up hurting these companies. It only ends up profiting Sony.
It’s sad that this is the best decision Square-Enix has made in recent memory. I guess they finally ran out of foot to shoot.
It’s really a bummer, considering FF7 Rebirth is a really good game that doesn’t do any of the greedy practices we see nowadays
-No DLCs
-No micro-transactions
-No season passes
-No lootboxes
-No NFT implementation
-Not bug infested or broken at launch
-Does not require online connection to play
-Comes in 2 discs to not take too much space and require to download the rest of the game
It’s not the platform it’s the games that disappoint.
if it came out on PS4 I wouldve got it
The reason is very simple. Not enough Playstation users have upgraded to PlayStation 5.
There simply is not enough games on the platform to justify upgrading….
i’ll wager that ‘other’ Sony fiasco being related to the loss of trust in Playstation exclusivity as a boon as well…
It’s not surprising at all. Even Sony have noticed that their exclusivity approach no longer works and has started to release their games on PC. In a world were Sony can’t do esclusives anymore – how is a third party publisher supposed to thrive doing exclusives?
The only way they could get away with exclusives is PC or mobile exclusives because of the much, much larger installbases. Console? No way.
Even Nintendo will start to struggle soon – the only reason they haven’t had to shift their strategy is that their games have not been that expensive to make yet. However, even their games have become a lot more expensive to make over the last few years and they’ll reach the breaking point eventually as well.
HOLY FCK PLAY @ 1.5X SMFH
Its all bs Playstation sales upnirs square hype their own failures
Took them long enough.
I haven’t played a square enix game since supcom 2
Part of it is exclusivity, another part is people like me that won’t pay $70 to play Part 2 of a game I’ve already played twice before.
Yeah u better have learnt ur damn lesson we aint buyin shit if we cant access it in the first place
Final Fantasy 16 is the type of game that I’ll prefer to play on Consoles. I was just not interested in it.
Wonder if the Front Mission ports are gonna be axed. So close to 3, 4, and the unreleased 5 ahead.
People don’t buy games like they used to anymore. The trust between customer base and company is long broken. Nowadays most folks wait for a sale
Square Enix is dumb of selling only on PS. They’re not a first party PS studio
Yeah… I always want to buy it especially FF7 rebirth but im dont want to have PS5 just to play one or 2 games… And i always waited patiently for port over to PC..its sucks but it was a self inflicted damages on thier part but im positive the future of SE will be brighter when they make multi platform games
It’s the right move, I know I’m not the only one who balked at spending $400 on a PS5 just to play the new Final Fantasy games. I hate that I can’t play FFXVI and VIIR on a platform I already own! I love Final Fantasy but just can’t afford a PS5, and I work full time. What a failure to understand your market this is. I want to buy your games, just preferably ONLY your games, and not a giant white monolith that I don’t want. Playstation doesn’t need all the exclusivity anymore.
Guessing Sony isn’t paying enough to have them exclusive to make up the difference in lost sales anymore
Sony: _Just release it on PC and require a PSN account._
SQE: _… how well did that work out for you before?_
Sony: _It will work for Ghost of Tsushima. Just watch._
As a PS5 user, this is great for all gamers.
Gonna laugh if square makes ports for their ps5 games for ps4
Fingers crossed they release both FF7 titles and 16 onto other platforms retroactively Ive really wanted to play them. Although knowing Sony that will never happen.
I can’t say much for FFXVI but cutting FFVII into multiple parts was ALWAYS a mistake.
Well this piss me off a bit
i was pretty sold on FF16, that i wanna buy the game on release
but knowing it was an exclusive was the downer
so yea, SE pretty much shot themselves in the foot in the first place
Exclusivity doesn’t benefit anybody except whoever has the exclusive rights. It’s all about investment and profit.
Pc gamers do not understand how exclusive games work.
told yall too many minigames and the music was not good on ff7r. i dont even want to play it when it comes to pc. seems like a chore
Thank fucking god
With how AMAZING these games are in terms of production and user reviews, the fact they fucking locked it to one system is horrendous.
Not to mention Final Fantasy 7 Remake was also locked behind Epic Games Store on PC until months later.
Developing these game took a lot of money and the return was minimal. So yeah, they didn’t flop completely because it reached the minimum but the massive nosedive in sales those games took after launch is what the SE didn’t like. They wanted and were hoping to sell a way more.
Sega Saturn’s revenge!
The craziest thing is realizing Pikmin 4 sold more than FFXVI
How soon do people _”forget”…_
When FF games were available for Xbox *THEY DID NOT SELL WELL AT ALL.*
FFXIII on X360? 2.19M & FFXIII Lightning returns not even 300K.
FFXV 1.14 Million on Xbox One.
Let’s not forget that ALL FF games were available on GamePass from 2019 to 2022. That’s the re-releases & HD versions of FF7, FF8, FF9, FFX & X-2, FFXII, FFXIII & FFXV which also saw *PATHETIC* sales on Xbox & Steam.
So the discourse about making them available for more platforms making FF _”more successful”_ is pure, unadulterated BS.
i wonder if foamstars might be put on pc after this
as a splatoon player, i’ve always been interested in the idea of the game, but don’t have a ps5 or have any interest atm to buy one
Just release on pc and they will be making bank
The only reason a game should be console exclusive is the console itself making a game to incentivize people to get a console. No other reason makes any sense. Unless the console maker can provide more money that is expected to be made selling on other platforms, it only ever hurts sales.
Hiroshi Yamauchi is having a blast.
Wow, who would have EVER known that limiting your players to only the people who can afford the newest generation consoles in a major economic downturn where inflation is rising rapidly and prices are already high, would be a bad idea?
Truly, it’s just impossible to look at the situation and determine smart moves.
As many former Sony-exclusive games are making their way to PC, somehow Sony still finds a way to limit this reach by releasing only to PSN enabled countries.
I still say a factor for 16’s low sales was the change in the way the game played. No party system, the DMC style combat, amongst other changes is what made me not get it. And I’ve seen other ppl not be interested for the same reasons as well. The old school style fans was not the target audience I felt.
I take this as good news.
Pretty much anyone could have told them this was a dumb idea. Most people aren’t interested in buying an overpriced console just for a few exclusive titles these days.
Tf are yall doing?? Get on Rebirth already lol
Square is an independent company not owned by sony or microsoft. the idea of making certain large title games set to exclusivities was always a awful idea.
Given the low sales ff16 will probably not get the planned updates and expansions that were planned, leaving the story incomplete, again, just like what happened with ff15. Shocked that Square-Enix stayed with them this long.
good, after ff15 i thought they were supposed to be on all platforms & I refuse to give wackstation any money
Console exclusivity has never been to the benefit of developers or gamers. Especially in this day and age of greater ease of cross platform access than ever before it’s a redundant relic of more primitive times. All consoles are redundant copies of one another that have largely no reason to exist in place of PCs. If Squaresoft wants me to buy FF16, I’m not buying an overpriced bad PC that has planned obsolescence to make me by the next one with a higher number with a Playstation logo stuck to it just to play their game.
Both amazing games. The problem is Sony, the publisher.
Working with Sony is jumping off a cliff.
I forgot FF16 existed half the time. It looked like a netflix show.
Deserved, exclusivity in this day and age with such a saturated market is already a dumb move
Remake was not a remake and a flop. Rebirth was not a remake sequel but a entirely new game. ..Anyone shocked?
Sony has been out of control with censorship for their third party titles. Just look at Stellar Bade. The reason that squeenix is leaving the Sony brand is because they are DEI/ESG monsters
Now maybe they can get back to making good titles again now that big brother is out of the picture. Its been a downward trend of fail for over 14 years now.
The argument that people didn’t buy the game because there weren’t enough PS5s to go around is insane. Square-Enix got paid up front to deliver these games. Even with their huge payday they failed.
I can’t remember the last time square enix released a good title. Kingdom Hearts 3 was a flop, so were the remake games. There were plenty of ps4s when it failed. It was even bundled.
It doesn’t help that FFXVI was a bad game ad FFVII rebirth was mediocre.
Releasing Rebirth on every console under the sun won’t save it lmao Dude it already failed ice cold in JP, there’s not even a demand for the game. And in america they started shipping them back.
The amount of damage control being done to take away from Sony’s meddling is insane. They are totally responsible for this.
FF16 was boring and overly tame even for a FF title Like Final Fantasy Spirits Within boring. Sony wants tame titles, so they made it.
exclusivity in this day and age is beyond dumb and petty af….2 things that make up sony…
Final Fantasy 7 remake was done awful and it changed the story. Please stop Simping Yong. Its 2024 and most people can watch someone else do a whole play through so you don’t have to risk your money incase the game is awful. Please accept reality. I know reality sucks, but with out it the world would end. Even in the 80s when story telling was at its peak we still accepted reality, and understood the definition of fantasy, and kept things separate. Final Fantasy 7 is not Kingdom Hearts.
I guess they finally noticed that Majority of the RPG players migrated to the Switch and PC after Sony Stopped caring about RPGs around the PS3 era.
What gets me today “sale expectations is low” when going to one system. What is it? PS5 system has sold 25 million as of today? Are they expecting to sell 50% of that Console players on that game? Not everyone is into a certain Genre of games. 3 Million sounds about right for given type of Genre of players be interested into the game.
Reminds the ET Atari days, Atari 2600 sold 300K Units? They made 600K of that for the game if remember hearing it correctly. I know different times and other things but still. Expect to sell 2 carts per household of that system? Come on. Now today we have so many games and types out there can’t reach past 20% easily of the market unit of said console. Well except if you’re a GTA blockbuster hit.
I could be wrong on all these aspects but these companies are setting way to high on expectations being on one system. Let the first party games do their thing. Heck, I guess Nintendo has been doing well because of that. Can’t say much for Xbox and PS. Must put 3rd party Exclusive to their system and it’s killing these said companies.Guess during the Sega and Nintendo era was simple times had Exclusives of their respected consoles and 3rd parties was on both systems. Granted different on sound and video wise on games.
Who would have thought that limiting your product would result in how many units are sold. The money must have not been great enough from Sony to combat disappointing sales.
The fact that PS5 sales as a system still hasn’t took off that much due to issues such as scalping and semiconductor shortages before, and next gen still doesn’t feel like “Next Gen” ever since its launch during the middle of covid back in 2020 (I know, shocker. The PS5 is almost 4 years old at this point) just shows how kinda dumb it is for SE to keep ‘FF7 Rebirth’ a PS5 exclusive when it could’ve spread its wings much wider if it Was released on other capable platforms.
Being a Square Enix fan sucks…
Good, it’s such a stupid fucking game plan FF16 is my favorite hands down in terms of aesthetic and combat everything it it provides is exactly what i love in a fantasy title but i cant play it yet cause i don’t know a own 500$ console for one fucking game and have to sit here and wait for the chance on PC.
Ahhhh my patience has paid off! Never made since to me to buy a PS5 when PS just releases their games on PC later on. Winning. Great time to be a PC gamer.
lol the company is dying by its own accord. They use to be my favorite company. bought a psp just for their two games. ff7 crisis core and kh bbs. now they dont know how to make games or how to market them. microtransactions up the ass on everything has done nothing but hurt them.
Put that shit on pc and don’t bitch about mods and you getting two sales outa me
I bought a ps4 just to play FF7 and console broke 2 years later. I will never buy another Playstation. I was super stoked when FF7 released on steam and I am waiting for the Rebirth steam release.
Mostly because ps5 users are declining, especially after the scalper fiasco. And ps5 still barely have games that make me want to buy one.
Looks like Nintendo is releasing the Switch 2 at the perfect time with this news because let’s be honest, any new game SQUARE ENIX releases in the future can’t run on the regular Switch lol
Meanwhile Nintendo is doing perfectly fine with their exclusives.
What? Ur telling me that limiting the possible sales of a game to 1 platform is bad for business? Who could have guessed!
Should’ve been multiplatform since the beginning when it’s a 3rd party developer.
FF7 being exclusive did hurt its sales but it’s also because splitting the remake into 3 separate parts was one of the stupidest things they could have done
They’ll release exclusively on Epic and be dissapointed again.
Squares main problem is that they arent making a parasite eve remake.
F**king finally Sony has been too cocky for too long
Who are you and what have you done with square Enix! An intelligent decision?! Not my square Enix!
If that means I’ll get FF7R on PC sooner rather than later I’m all for it.
And rumoredly, there’s a remake of some kind of FF9. Would be nice if that was true.
So where was all this “exclusives bad” energy when Microsoft gobbled up Activision/Blizzard/King? People were cheering it on, including Yongyea.
Now they can sell FF 7 Remake again for 80 Dollar. xD
Before this starts. #1. They’ve been watching what Sony has done. Especially recently.
#2. They always say they failed to meet the ambiguous. Money values they set. Just like Nintendo.
#3 FF hasn’t meant anything since after Xbox one and PS3.
Its like trying to hang onto Zuma on the Ipod…. Yeah that old. Even the new is already stale. Noctus game was good but ive not touched it seriously since its online mode failed (insert the 17 year old MMO FF game onto Xbox) bit of a reach for pathetic results. If i was told. No i was told its a 15+ year old mmo game that needs a subscription just to play and keep my content. Im definitely not playing that fossil of a P2W game for something more outdated than Yogos or Tubes.
Yeah they can stick it to where the sun font shine.
Id be fine if it was $15 again for PSU(Phantasy Star online) by Sega . Id not stop playing that for a year. Not because its just good, but because everything afterwards tht isn’t an indie game sucks A55
For me, i stopped caring about square when they got rid of the Soft.
Square Enix goes into the city of 2 million population expecting to sell 10 million cars
Good, I’ve been waiting to get FF7 & 16 on pc
Idk if this take on SE’s situation is accurate. Like this isn’t a downward trend right? They’re just mad they didn’t make all the money in the world. Unless they made less than last year it seems like leadership is just overhyped their worth and then being upset they aren’t as good as they thought. Maybe they should set their expectations instead of blaming everything else and then inevitably firing a lot of their developers so they can keep their bonuses
Wow, so it turns out that restricting who can buy your games reduces the amount of people who will buy your games.
Truly an unheard of metric that nobody could’ve predicted.
I honestly think that the final fantasy games recently are not that appeasing for the customers to buy it like for example Stellar Blade is also a platform exclusive but it is doing great in terms of sales. And guys i am also a fan of FF and i do own a PS5 but i didnt buy ff7 rebirth since it wasn’t impressive for me and the price was also high. I wish all the games were accessible to all the platforms so that it can outlive for a long time and the playerbase can also have some good time with their friends ✌🏻
I bought every console from super Nintendo to Dreamcast on launch day.. with 2-3games and every ff up to 10-2… however with the current consoles using turd tier PC hardware and scalper tactics to profit, I’ll wait for the PC port of any console game…blame amd
I would have bought final fantasy 7 rebirth twice now if it weren’t a PS exclusive.
Now watch them release it on pc as a epic game store exclusive again
Who the hell needs an overpriced piece of crap in playstation 5 that you can’t use mouse and keyboard on, you have gimped graphics and even worse performance, you buy games at full price and worst of all, have no mods for the games you buy? That last fact not only makes the experience inferior but it also means that you don’t have an out when sony enforces their retarded censoring for 18+ games on you.
Some dipshit was like “Hey lets settle for a third of potential customers” and several other dipshits agreed.
making EXTREMELY expensive games, limiting them to one platform and having unrealistic monetary expectations is just a recipee for disaster
Afraid my FF War of the visions Mobile game is gonna be shutdown next year. Showing signs they are making cuts. Reminds what happen to Mobius. Cutting their VA’s that is not Japanese or English. Learned also every DragonQuest Mobile was shutdown, for the past 2 years. So worries me that is not working well.
Most of my ff friends didn’t buy 16 or chaos because of the combat system.
Maybe they shouldn’t alienate atb and tb fans by making devil may cry games with an ff mod installed.
A combat style option would have earned more sales.
It’s squares fault. They attempted to start a bidding war between Sony and Xbox years ago. And Xbox refused to play. So Sony got the exclusivity for very cheap.
Console exclusivity doesn’t make sense anymore when all your big games have an overinflated budget. It’s very similar to Playstation Studios themselves, since closing Japan Studios they only release blockbusters. But because of that, the PS5 has failed to build up a library of its own.
I’m glad in a way that there were cutting the fat from the company even though it really sucks. There’s at least one game in there that can be attributed to the United States offices that was just a failure on launch.
I’m positive that the sales are due to the quality of the titles, over the exclusivity.
16 had an awful storyline, almost to the series low of the 13 trilogy.
ReBirth is full of frustrating minigames that kept piling up where it became a choir to explore instead of excitement.
Serious question. Did Sony pay for the exclusivity or SE just decided to do an exclusive by themselves? The way this whole news is worded is SE didn’t get paid for it, which makes absolute no sense, to do an exclusive without getting payed for it.
Why buy from companies that hate you?
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain. What I mean is that I find it ironic how the Square Enix and its PlayStation relationship has turned sour due to the expectations of the overall company. Especially, given the long history of Sony PlayStation and Square Enix games.
Reject exclusivity embrace multi platform
companies tend to forget growth is limited you cant always grow permanently sooner or later the growth either slows down, stops or even declines. lets say they that the 8 bilion people that exist in the world they had them all has clients, their growth would stop there, the couldnt grow anymore just remain or decline. the faster you want to grow the faster you reach those lines of slowing down, stop or decline.
plus they forget most of their growth was during covid times thats why their sales were so high like many other companies, like the sales of final fantasy 7 remake since its release was during covid lockdown thats why the sales of that game was higher then it should have, the game is good played it for hundreds of hours dont get me wrong but if it wasnt covid they wouldnt have sold has many copies has fast has they did, but they would still reach the sales they have in the long run
Square management was so short sighted that they nearly put their own franchises on the deathbed with these exclusivities.😅
I just wish they understand from this 10 (or more) year long mistake.
Well duh, most ppl dont buy games day one, most gamers are young budget gamers who buy games on sales months or years after the fact, elden ring sold more in 2023 than it did in 2022, baldurs gate 3 has already sold more in 2024 than it did last year, and hades sold more in 2022 than it did in both 2020 and 2021, if they expect gamers to buy their games day one, they will always be disappointed regardless of whether they are exclusive or multi platform, mainline final fantasy games being exclusive to Playstation is nothing new, ff7, ff8, ff9, ff10, ff12 and ff16 were all Playstation exclusives at launch
Nothing has met “internal expectations” at Square Enix in at least a decade, but what *do* they expect? The PS5 has like half of the users that the PS4 did, it had a very slow start where Sony couldnt produce enough of them for ~2 years, and it’s also pretty expensive. And speaking of expensive, they’re charging $70 for games now with “deluxe editions” ranging from 100+, it’s an offputting amount and people are not gonna buy these things unless they really want them. The games industry is chasing perpetual growth so hard they’re making perpetual flops.
Also lmao @ selling off like a dozen studios to a shithead investment group and then having your own investors complain about an empty games pipeline. Yeah, turns out that’s why you release stuff like Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, and GotG.
The master chief trades back truly the Mario bros.
Their sale expectations were unrealistic, that being said going cross platform is a good thing for all of us
Reason why I haven’t bought rebirth is because I know they are gonna release a PC version. I only buy PS or Xbox games on their system mainly for their 1st party. Will buy them as well on console if the game is just better optimized on there than my PC but other than that PC is where I go for my multi-platform games for me.
Absolutely fantastic news!
Might want to launch on pc ASAP
Maybe they should try to sell more NFTs, then!
Isn’t Square Enix the company that always complains about sales on all their games?
Amazing game
But they didn’t just shot their foot but buckshot their leg off because of the exclusivity
Imagine being married to a Square executive and being told “yeah I came but this BJ was below expectations”. 😂
I mean if PS5 is cheap enough it might work similar to how the PS2 worked out. But since PC are dirt cheap now there is no reason to buy an exclusive games when you KNOW it will come to the PC eventually.
So yeah hope you enjoy the initial exclusivity money from Sony.
Was on board until I saw it was Mochizuki who did the article. Not really onboard with his framing of the whole situation. He says sales didn’t meet expectations but were not bad? Strange.
Don’t forget, the economy is t doing well. People are not dropping $70 for every game
Already been spoiled on Rebirth, turns out it’s hard to hide from a game for THREE MONTHS SONY!!!!
Square Enix: no more exclusives on PlayStation
Phil Spencer: i have an idea…
Who would want to pay $400+ to play a couple of exclusive games nowadays?
It is less likely someone is going to purchase a brand new console to play an exclusive game because the disposable income is disappearing.
Several Playstation centric youtubers are blaming install base for poor FF VII: Rebirth sales compared to FF VII Remake. Yet, compare Spider-Man to Spider-Man 2. The PS4 install base when Spider-Man came out was over 82 million. In 80 days, the game had sold ~9 million copies. The PS5 install base when Spiderman 2 came out was 47 million, and after 108 days it had sold ~10 million copies. So install base didn’t seem to hurt Spider-Man 2 sales.
i hope FFVII remake/rebirth BOTH come out on XBOX… and stop sony from fucking us over.
SE: there’s tons of money making FF multi platform, quick make FF 13, 13-2, 13-LR & 15 multi platform
Sony: We’ll give you a couple of million yen to make FF 7 & 16 not for Xbox and timed exclusives on PS from now on
SE: Hmmmm, ok
I don’t mind if there’s a delay for PC release, but give me a release date showing that it will be released on PC.
No please Square Enix please keep making poor decisions so that you go under already.
Suffering from the “nickel/dime… ahem! 3-4$ strategy’s” bad games do bad. Good games do good? That’s a shizzt economy! The old wa made some kind of sense. But nothing makes sense
Why. Didnt Sony give money to make them exclusive?
Wait so I can get rebirth on PC now?
Still think exclusivity is a necessary evil?
Alot of people that bought Helldivers 2 on PC, and was able due to Valves regional pricing and it’s global coverage, something that consoles never allowed because of their closed ecosystem. In America consoles are popular and cheap because we’re lucky to have a sustainable economy, however, in other parts of the world PC cafe’s is the go to for PC gaming and cheaper than consoles because they cost triple the price there.
I don’t care for the console wars of exclusivity because I know that my filipino friend that I play on Steam will never be able to play those exclusive games.😢 PC MASTER RACE! WE CARE NOT FOR EXCLUSIVE!
When FF7R came out, everyone pretty much had a damn PS4. This wasn’t something that was scarcely available for years on end due to shortages, this was widely available to the public. So yeah, back then it was smarter.
Now people are just defaulting to PC gaming because it’s more efficient and ends up being cheaper in the long run, considering you don’t have to pay for online. PS5 was scarce at launch, took forever to get back into market, and what’s the point in buying a console THAT HAS NO GAMES
kingdom hearts on steam when
Still waiting for ps5’s to be on sale 😪
>Make episodic remake of game
>Split episodes between different consoles
>Sales slump
Who would’ve thought
can’t wait to play this on Xbox!
Half expecting PC releases to include locking the game to EGS. The monkey’s paw yearns to curl its finger
Sad thing is when FF15 hit Steam I was excited for a new era of SE releasing their games on Steam for now on and bought it full price to support the idea so FF7R being exclusive felt like they still didn’t care about us. By the time it’s exclusiveness ended 50 years later I didn’t care anymore since I spoiled it all by watching a playthrough so they perma-lost money from me. Then to have Remake1 already on PC and exclusive the 2nd part again is just excessively rude. Even worse; Vincent isn’t playable during sections he was in the original. Failure.
Much of FF16’s fans would be from FFXIV players where many of which are on PC like me so… console exclusive on that is just dumb lol.
The funny thing is that Square Enix already made a deal to release more games on Xbox consoles (July, 2023), which I was under the impression that basically meant everything except FF16 and all 3 games in the FF7 Remake trilogy. Obviously they can’t break any exclusivity deals that SE has already made with Sony (unless maybe they give dumptrucks of money back, which I doubt SE would do), so this doesn’t really change anything for Xbox owners unless SE hadn’t already signed an exclusivity deal with Sony for Remake Part 3, which I bet they already have.
Unless FF16 and the Remake trilogy have timed-exclusivity deals, which I doubt, this whole SE announcement means nothing for Xbox owners except for Final Fantasy games after Remake Part 3, which is at least 3 years out, not counting other non-FF titles that were always going to be multi-platform of course.
Xbox always got the shitty games like Marvel’s Avengers and Babylon’s Nobody Cares.
I’m surprised square enix didn’t do this after the sales for final fantasy were lackluster so to have this happen now is head scratching in my opinion they should have been done this already
I don’t have a PS5, and that is the ONLY reason I don’t own both of these games.
These are terrible years to be console fanboy, XBOX and Playstation won’t survive the 2020s.
Xbox gamers don’t buy games, that will just be a waste of resources making the game for xbox. Final fantasy should a decent audience on PC.
Well if they canceled a bunch of projects im putting money on it. All of the NFT projects got canceled if they plan on PC releases sence Steam does not allow any NFT games on the platform.
To be fair, FF16 kinda sucked. Very 1 dimensional.
“I’m so happy more people are going to enjoy these masterpieces” lol
Kind of hard to sell games on a platform that nobody has due to five years of scalping. But hey, at least our Monkey pictures made us a dollar.
They are probably doing this because their sales ain’t so hot right now youknow like their games, anyone who likes the new ff7 rebirth don’t blame you because of nostalgia or characters, but probably one of the worst open worlds I’ve played in recent years and I play Ubisoft games, doesn’t help when ff16 also kinda fell flat, when you realize a hour in the game you’ve basically unlocked all the combat system and are gonna be doing the same thing for 100 hours, and the side quest they conceived was delivering soup to people
Everything is “underperforming” to them because the bar is high from the Investors. So it’s going to be another Game Crash because all they ask is more.
Game industry slowly dying thanks to investors trying to make money
Starfield to PS5, when
I can just imagine all the cry of pain and rage from Sony fanboys over this
Dread it. Run away from it. The games will get ported to PC all the same.
I would had bought Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on day one but it wasn’t released on PC. So yeah fuck exclusives!
Who cares. Regardless of how well the games sold, they’d be crying the same shit. FF16 was good but wasn’t genre defining and FF7 Remake 2 just seemed like a chore to get through. I do agree that third party games should never be exclusive. It’s the reason we were all so upset about the zenimax/Bethesda and Activision/Blizzard deals Microsoft made. We’ll keep getting the same remakes of remasters of remakes and sequels because risk is not what investors want now. Shout out to Remedy though!
It took over 4 years from Remake to Rebirth.
Square didn’t think fans would lose at least a tab bit of interest?
Wow you shut out 120 million user base and you dont make sales expectations 😅
Wow. Took them long enough..
hi YongYea
Yea stop talking up Multi platform releases being good, now i get PlayStation seems to be doing weird things, Which I think has a lot to do with the HQ in California, but what this leads to is streamlined controls and less interactivity and even more dead of a world than they already were. Every system has a different control scheme, you can’t tell me you don’t know this is going to happen.. it will… I also mentioned Microsoft buying all the studios was dumb and the FTC dropped the ball and they shut down studio’s but still having exclusive deal is still important so optimization for certain consoles can exist.
The future seems to be going, mash one button for everything…
Sony paid for these things to be exclusive. But we also gotta understand that FF 7 and 16 are games that are a bit polarizing in itself. If they didn’t sell well
on Sony, what makes you think they will sell well anywhere else?
Not surprised developers don’t want to work with a company that alienates their customers based on arbitrary deeming their country either too poor, too irrelevant or politically misaligned with their patrons to give a shit about.
I don’t even have a ps5 as most of my friends also don’t. PC Master Race FTW!!!
I am more impressed SE is still alive ngl. The amount of stupid decisions is just shocking
It’s time to break away from Sony’s icy titan grip my guys.
Thank you Square-Enix, maybe you can grow a pair once more. This ESG stuff just aint cutting it.
My thing is if PlayStation takes this route then at that point why should anyone get a PlayStation anymore? If they do this with everything then the best thing would be to build/buy the best PC you can, maintain it, upgrade it overtime, and there you go. PlayStation, Xbox, and PC games are all available to you now. The thing thats always sold consoles is their exclusive titles.
If Nintendo ever did this do you think anyone would bother getting a Nintendo console ever again?
Ok they’re complaining about game sales only to 1 console forcing other people to buy a console…. This is not how you market games like this.
Have a ps5 but I’m not paying $70 for a game waiting for a sale
Finally
I wasn’t impressed with the first part of the Final Fantasy seven remake. I have no interest in purchasing or playing the second part or the third.
Well they are correct.. whoever at square enix thought that it was a good business decision to do. PS5 exclusivity well, that person needs to be fired. I play on PC and I’m just sitting here twiddling my thumbs until I have a chance to buy final fantasy 16
Foam stars was the most obvious flop. Seriously, trying to make a greedy live service that mimics one of the best bang for your buck party shooters of all time? Anyone could have called the flop the second they said f2p live Service
Also have to remember what Sonys expectations for these to be successful are. Their president is still on board with nfts and “play to earn” bs
FF16 sold millions in its first couple of weeks but did it make a bajillion mega dollars like FF14? No, which to Sony probably is enough to deem it not successful.
What I dont get is.. did Sony pay SE for the exclusivity? Or did SE make it exclusive on their own out of some sense of loyalty? It almost sounds like its the latter, and that would be dumb as F
Sales, Sales, Sales. Yep. Bla Bla Bla, I don’t care if they lost money. They released a good game for the fans. All they care for investors anyway. Not the Customers or Fans. Their focus is always on sales or business. So I’m not surprised but they sold it PS5 Exclusive. Their mistake. Selling only 1/3 available platforms only. Could’ve sold on PC but noooo. Exclusivity, right? You made your choice, Square Enix.
Devils advocate. If every game is on every platform why do we need so many platforms?
At this stage in the game, I doubt that it will help save Square Enix.
To be absolutely fair, Square does complain a lot when their games, even the multi platform ones don’t perform to their “expectations”. Now, I get an exclusive game is a risk and has more potential to not hit those sales numbers, but don’t forget they’ve been complaining about sales for a long time. I think that games like FF16 and F7R should be enjoyed by as many people as possible. Hopefully those games get to people’s hands sooner rather than later, they were both fantastic games.
Square Enix should take notes from Capcom on how they handle thier big releases because it worked out for them.
I wonder if SE ever considered that people may think games are too expensive now. I can only buy one $80 game every two months, and rebirth just wasn’t on my list.
wow, no shit Square
Not really exclusivity’s fault, Final Fantasy just isn’t as popular anymore.
Consoles are too expensive nowadays. And exclusivity has ruined and divided players.
There are so many factors that are leading to bad sales here.
First is obviously the exclusivity. I don’t own a PS5. I have no plans to buy one because my computer is simply better and if I had the money laying around for a PS5 I’d just buy a new video card for my PC instead. I’m sure I’m not alone in not wanting to buy an expensive console for only a couple games that I might want to play.
Second is pricing. People are really hurting right now economically with everything having gotten so much more expensive. Income is stagnant, prices on needs are way up, and there isn’t as much disposable cash for entertainment. Especially at $70 a pop on top of the console itself. As a PC gamer I typically wait a few months and get a game on a deep discount if I really want to play it. I don’t buy games at full price more than maybe once a year on a game I think truly deserves it like BG3.
Third is the gameplay. Final Fantasy is a J-RPG series with roots in great storytelling, fun characters, party banter, turn-based combat, hidden things to work towards, etc. Changing the gameplay to a focus on action real-time combat with less control of party members(if you even have any) is going to bring in some new fans I’m sure but do the new ones out-weigh the ones that are being lost?
Even when FFXVI comes to PC, I’m not going to buy it at full price. In fact, I’m so disinterested in the gameplay style and the male main character(I’m a woman) that I probably won’t buy it at all. If I do it’s going to be for like $15 or less.
Sony and SE are just making terrible mistakes that are cutting their own legs out from under them.
Stop blaming Playstation they have more consoles its they’re freaking fault
Nobody had this issue on the PS1 and PS2 generations, just kinda putting that out there.
Good honestly
Part 3 will probably still be exclusive but it’ll be the last. The contract was most likely for the whole remake and I’d be shocked if they could get out of it after 2 games.
Gee Sony execs, I wonder if it was a bad idea to be greedy about players and sales?
The second Sony Exclusive Purge begins
Watch them go “Ok, we’re gonna release the game on everything at once. No more delayed releases for certain platforms” *Releases FF7 Part 3 on Epic only* “Wtf guys! We brought it to PC, how come you’re not buying it?”.
Imagine putting exclusive stuff to the console that is so hostile to their target audience and hope the game would sell.
Swapping OX confirm button in the east (while playing PS4 games it got back to normal as O is confirm button in the menu), Censoring eastern games, no Bloodborne 60fps patch, make PT not playable, no KNACK 3, no LBP4…
It would have still worked if there is a PS4 version.
They gotta need to have something as big as Kojima’s MGSV Chapter 3 Kingdom of Flies or FF Versus XIII to get me buying a PS5.
Good because sony has been taking lots of Ls recently
I would play FF16. But I don’t own a console and have no plan on getting any consoles this generation. FF7 rebirth, I have no intention of playing. Not interested in FF7 re-imagined edition split into three games to cost me the most amount of money possible. FF7 was my favorite game as a kid, but I’m not interested in getting my wallet raided by the people that thought their ideas were better then the original story. They weren’t.
Good work Square, you sold alotta Playstations… that’s your business right. Right?
I was waiting for the pc releases. I moved on from consoles after the PS5 shortage BS. This isn’t back in the snes and genesis days either. People do not buy consoles for 1 game anymore.
The main issue is largely the other failed or canceled projects which contributed to the massive loss, most notably DQ12. It is by now an open secret that SE scraped the alpha version of DQ12 and is currently reworking with a different dev team.
This has some additional gravity considering the drama around psn and Helldivers, and people acting like sony will take games off pc. as if we care
Good. These games deserve to be played by as many people as possible. Release future titles on both PlayStation and Xbox simultaneously, release the PC version when it’s ready, then put out a Nintendo version if possible (as either a cloud version or on a future console that is powerful enough)
Their old games are on PC, FFXIV is on PC, so obviously most of their audience is on PC
I don’t know Yong, I didn’t like FFR because it wasn’t an rpg. FFR is a hack and slash action game, a game genre I have never liked or cared for. The last FF rpg game that I loved and bought was FF9. I have not cared for anything after 9. I did try FF11 and FF14 but those were fetch quest games and I don’t care for those either.
This reminds me of what’s happening with streaming and why that is struggling now to make a profit. The big media companies got greedy so instead of licensing out their movies, they thought they could claw back that additional revenue via having their own service and exclusives. This is what makes something like Max different from a service like Netflix that was originally made as an aggregator for syndicated content. But now that times have changed after COVID and inflation and people can’t afford a bunch of expensive individual services, their play for clawing back that additional revenue lost from licensing their content out has backfired *dramatically*. This is what is happening to Square Enix and video games too as both XBox and Playstation 5 have been underwhelming to say the least this generation. Because what Microsoft & Sony are competing on now aren’t who has the better console or service, but what titles they can lock behind their restrictive ecosystems. It’s rent seeking, not innovation, and it turns out for something non-essential like video games & entertainment people just won’t buy into it. I’m so glad that I can afford to do PC gaming and the Steam Deck because it’s openness it probably what’s going to save video games in the long haul.
I want to play ff16. But not enough to buy a PlayStation.
Sony convinced square in the my plastic box is better then your plastic box to play games on because a game can only be good on one particular box I wonder are PlayStation games only good on Sony Tv’s surely games play better on a bravia then Samsung or LG tv’s
Watch em disappoint everywhere else too 😂
Wow limiting your market hurts the bottom line? Amazing to learn!!😅 I loved XV personally despite it being a broken beautiful narrative (eventually it came together but Noctis and the bros I truly loved as characters.)
That said when 16 and FF7 didn’t come to Xbox I was gutted. Hopefully now everyone can enjoy FF and more yet again for the long term.
Final fantasy should have never been exclusive!!
NGL While the exclusivity is part of it, FF7-12 (Not 11) were Playstation Exclusives and sold gang busters.
The problem is, in my personal opinion, Square-Enix isn’t selling us what we want.
We didn’t want Final Fantasy 16 to be Final Fantasy May Cry, We didn’t was the Turn Base ABS and world ripped out of Final Fantasy 7, making a psuedo sequel instead of a remake
With rumors of a switch, 2 is right around the corner. Imagine playing a final fantasy collection on the switch even a new game in the future
Infinite growth is unachievable anyways. Square isn’t in a downward trend. Just greed from the CEO and shareholders is dragging them down. They’re still doing great just not infinite growth which shouldn’t be an objective, ever.
Says a LOT when you forget to mention Chocobo GP and Stranger in Paradise.
6:01 not that.. its people don’t have the extra $$ to spend on whatever they want especally games that have become basically 70-100$..
thats the problem.. peopel are poorer.. so they are more selective..
You need the Goldilocks price 40-50$.. canadian.. american even less.. thast why helldivers2 did so well.. palworld did well.. indies is doing well.
What they need to do .. stop listening to shareholders if they want to survive
If I can play the FFVII remakes on Xbox one I’ll be buying (not the series X/S) I will be buying day one!!!
This really sucks man. It really is just all about the money. The world needs a hard reset. Humans won’t do anything to advance if it doesn’t make money. We created money so we won’t push ourselves further if it doesn’t reward us with another thing we created. Kinda sad circle of events.
Tbh i love final fantasy but it not for everyone so it was never gonna do spider-man or god of war numbers being a ps exclusive 🤣🤣
I loved having FF17 and 7 remake series exclusive to Playstation. Seeing as how there won’t be an Xbox anymore within a year…sure, that’s fine
Took em’ long enough
PC players sure, But I don’t think porting to xbox would be worth it. xbox players don’t seem to like JRPG’s and microsoft has trained them to buy subscriptions rather than buying games. but maybe I’m wrong. I look forward to seeing a future where all games are on all platforms.
FF16 looks good and I have heard good things about it as for FF7 I’m playing the long game and I’ll wait for the complete collection of all 3 to launch. I play on PC and I’m not buying a PS5 just to play it, I’m sure I’m not the only one and why would this surprise anyone that your sales suffer by limiting your market.
Still waiting for Kingdom Hearts to come to Steam. Imagine limiting your player base and complaining when you aren’t getting the expected sales. Come on Square Enix!
The question is, are they going to actually make ff7 remakes and such pc ports or is it just too bad so sad?
They are destroying their US and EU divisions as well. This says more about what the issue is. Sony batters companies into submission with their every whim and throw them under the bus when games don’t work out. Western sensibilities have been garbage for them as well.
They need to go back to releasing “Japanese” games instead of faux Western PC Culture garbage.
Here is a crazy idea.. maybe stop focusing on HSHARE HOLDERS.. they don’t kow what they are talking about
You can release 100 games.. doesn’t mean peopel are going to buy it..
Start listening to your consumers
They really messed up customer loyalty with that move either way. Similar to bungee and destiny’s extended exclusives
>Don’t release on PC
>Ignore your core fanbase for the remake and go in a different direction
>Games don’t sell as well.
And yet, I know you’ve learned nothing Square. 😂
They should’ve never accept that Sony money.
Good, after XV being at least on Xbox on release date they should have kept it that way moving forward. 3rd party games being exclusive is stupid.
To be honest Square could have a game sale a billion copies, and they’d still be disappointed 😆😆😆
I want to play FF16 and 7:Rebirth badly, but I don’t have no 400$ for a (glorified high end graphic PC) PS5.
And I know plenty of people with the exact same sentiment.
GOD they’re fucking idiots.
This generation of consoles has been absolutely fucking horrible as well.
Weak ass bricks
What I think is the real cause or this is lengthy dev time of FF15, the expensive flop of Forspoken, and the wasted money on cancelled projects made this happen. Thus leading to other games having to pick up the slack leading to higher expectations of games they know will sell.
yeah im waiting for the ff7r steam release
Good. The only studios making exclusives should be the ones owned by the console manufacturers
I was looking forward to trying 16 but I’m not buying a console for one game. I don’t care about 7 though. They clearly split the game into pieces to make more money. Maybe I’ll get the “trilogy” after they go on sale as a bundle.
Look at how many trash games that SE released in the past year, they would have gone broke if not for FFXVI and Rebirth
I thought ff16 did well
Anyone who bets on PS5 comes up diminishing returns. There simply isn’t enough of them out there and word of mouth is PS5 is a buyer’s remorse machine. I primarily play PS4 games on my PS5
Rebirth was not max sale because it wasn’t on all platforms
This is good, Sony can literally go suck on a tailpipe.
Would have bought ffvii rebirth day 1 if it was on pc or Xbox. I waited for the pc release before even touching remake.
were xbox not sabotaging itseIf constantIy this wouId be great news.
it’d be way better news if they committed to reIeasing their games day and date on PC
Maybe its because the franchise is boring and over done??
Imagine if SquareEnix releases both FF7 Remake games on Xbox and the new Nintendo console and decide to remove Tifa’s black undershirt. That little change alone will sell the units Square has been wanting, guaranteed.
I would say that’s a good news.
I like playing on pc, and the potential powerful handheld pc to play with.
This is fine. Final fantasy is a brand recognized as pinnacle JRPG yet it’s only exclusive to Playstation? No, this is a good thing in my opinion.
This is why you cater to the biggest demo.. not an exclusive group
It’s just simple math.
Hurry and release on pc
Not more exclusivity and lower the price.
As an Xbox fanboy, I am pleased 🎉
Exclusives never made sense to me. Like why would any developer want to limit their sales?
First of all, majority of Ps5 owners are not into Final Fantasy. If Square make FF exclusively on ps5 on the first year, it will be a total loss on sales.
Make squenix great again!
The key thing will be if they can have their pc ports ready day 1 and not be a mess (last year or so of pc ports all over the industry…)
16 and rebirth are releasing but with how long they take, it’s clear square does not have a huge team helping out. Luckily yoshi p is saying he wants all the right features you expect from a pc port but it’s probably not releasing till summer at earliest.
Proving once again that PC is and forever will be the ultimate platform. Even if we didn’t get the first party titles, eventually PCs will be able to emulate any type of console architecture and play all their games. Luckily the manufacturers are slowly starting to realize exclusivity to sell consoles is no longer the best strategy.
Exclusives are dumb
As far as I recall, The Remake was sold on the PS4 originally and Most of the population had PS4 consoles during that time in general not to mention that the console had been out for sometime. PS5 on the other hand has had massive problem when it came to sales due to specific types of people (Scalper Scum). You get the idea. Another thing to point out is that the Nintendo Switch has sold 4 times more over the PS5 console when it came in sales not to mention their bundles were extremely less expensive compared to Sony’s. The guys at Geeks and Gamers mentioned about this a few days ago which is true. Not every person has a PS5 as one might think. Share and Stock holders should already be fully aware that they are not welcomed here in the video game market. They are not buying games. We the consumers are. We hold the power.
Good, bring that shit to xbox already! I got Crisis Core on the switch and want the rest of the games on my xbox!
Both are great games, so hopefully sales will improve. FF7 rebirth does drag a bit with all the mini games, but they are all great in their own way.
When you limit your games to one platform you are limiting your sales to players who have that platform. How they’ve only now realised this is beyond me. It’s not that complex.
Its almost as if the head honchos dont even realize the potential of PC and Xbox sales.
Bro ….WE CAN AFFORD THESE PRICES
These companies are fucking dense 🤦🏽♂️
Just give me day one pc release
Ok sony, real talk. Bloodborne on PC when?
Eh, ffxvi was a huge disappointment overall
The budget is 200 million. Do you not know simple math? I know you’re a fanboy who gets blinded, but come on.
At this point, maybe this is why studios are being acquired, it seems exclusively is no longer working.
Wait so you’re telling me by restricting your product to only one side of a market isn’t good for business?
As a PS5 owner…..GOOD! Let everyone play these games.
I bought a ps5 for 16, and i bought 7 rebirth, the only thigns i even wanted this sytem for, thank fucking god i dont have to buy systems i dont want or need to play these games now.
Maybe they should’ve made a remake instead of crappy fanfiction.
Oh good, they’re gonna stop exclusivity after the only games anyone gave a fuck about have already come out.
Who would’ve thought?
This news has been covered days ago. Late to the party much?
Kinda crazy how limiting your games to a single consoles equals lower sales. Wild.
Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, And FF16 Remasters on XBOX SERIES X, P.C and Later NINTENDO SWITCH 2, Let’s Fuckin GOOOOOO!!!!!😊
Dropping exclusivity is not a bad thing to me. I just wanna play good games on whatever machine I feel like using.
Switch has a big Japanese Market!
Making a game exclusive to a console is like saying, “Oh, you spent $X to get your choice of console/PC that’s not what we’re selling our game on? Well, spend $500+ to get a PS5 to then spend to get our game lol” Exclusively selling games on a single platform isn’t good. It may take more work to develop a game for several platforms, but I fail to see that as detrimental to profit.
the AAA gaming industry is crashing and no one is immune. Final Fantasy is able to keep SE’s head above water, but it seems only barely.
I feel bad for the devs. They made FFVII Rebirth one of the best game ever. Then they get cucked because dumb decisions made by executives
I thought to myself that not many people would buy FF7 Rebirth on PS5 when they know it is coming out for PC and I am so used to Sony and SE being in bed that I was thinking they would get rid of future PC releases to drive more sales on PS5. Am I ever happy to have completely thought wrong on that.
Hopefully more IP’s can be freed from the shackles of dumb exclusivities.
**Paitently waits for Bloodborne on PC**
this make me happier staying in thousand sunny..
I stopped counting how many times Square Enix said about their games „the sales numbers didn’t meet OUR expectations“…
I feel like exclusivity doesn’t work anymore in the current economy.
I mean yeah limiting games isn’t the smartest move isn’t he modern day climate. But I’m also just kind of sick of everything being tied to investors and stock prices. Investors and stock performance is ruining the gaming industry imo. Even looking at HellDivers, Sony is trying to appease investors by sabotaging their best performing game in recent memory.
we are watching the fall of console exclusives, what a beautiful day lol
Well, of course, this would happen when they left Nintendo years ago & taught Sony & their friendship would last forever.
The team was never the same when ex employees left for MonolithSoft so they did it to themselves.
Wtf were these morons expecting
They want huge sales but then only puts it on one platform
Common sense doesn’t exist in the AAA atmosphere
I guess they lost their brain cell because they r too busy counting their money
Good, screw exclusivity by 3rd parties
Give us sleeping dogs 2
If they’re gonna continue releasing on Epic Games Store then they’re not gonna do much better.
PC gamers are at Steam, EGS is good for free games and Fortnite but that’s about it.
Wasn’t 15 on the Xbone?
I really wanted to play FF16, but I refuse to reward holding games as a hostage. Exclusivity, especially for consoles, is brain dead. I can see PC exclusivity because PCs are an objectively greater gaming platform for many reasons, but not for console fanboys.
Survivorship Bias: After noticing their games’ popularity in the west, Square decided to make west-oriented games even though western gamers wanted their games BECAUSE they were japanese.
Frankly third party AAA devs have no business being console exclusive in the first place. Artificial Exclusivity, whether is Microsoft just buying out already successful studios or Sony doing their weird console-exclusive content, is not justifiable the way a console manufacturer funding grassroots development is…not that Sony believes in that anymore apparently, given what they did to Japan Studio.
No EGS please im still waiting for kingdom hearts on steam
no one saw this coming ???
It was NEVER an issue before. Now all these companies are disappointed in their sales? Has to be more to it.
Who would’ve thought selling on a console owned by small amount of gamers and high chance not all of them are gonna buy the game would result in a “dissapointing sales”.
Sony owns exclusivity rights to all 3 parts. Dont hold your breathe Xbox.
As a long time FF7 Fan. FF7 Rebirth is a dream come true for me and many people. It hurts so much to see this news and i hope it doesn’t impact the quality of the third and final title in the Remake Project. FF7 Rebirth is one of the best games and experiences i’ve ever had in my life.
Ah the era of porting to PC begins. It’s good to be right.
Games development is too expensive, the sales goals are too high….and you wanted this to be an exclusive because…
Square Enixn sets the bar way to height , FF15 sold close to 10 million, yet that was seen as to low leading to them cutting mods for pc and all future dlc/movies/books. This is why i lost trust in them , i did buy ff15 2 times as i was told of dlc mods yet got nothing , now i wait and see if they keep thier word or not.
I’d love to know what suit thought making FF16 exclusive was a good idea after FF15, their multiplatform game, was one of their best selling FF’s of all time. Like did they not make a connection there?
DO NOT BUY FF 16 WHEN IT COMES OUT FOR PC. WAIT FOR SALE. MAKE THEM SUFFER FOR NOT CROSSPLATFORM RELEASE.
Available on one platform: ✔️
$70 standard edition: ✔️
Bad world economy: ✔️
What’s the surprise here
Just look at Atlus how they went multi platform global release and Persona 3 Reload was their fastest selling game ever.
So CEO’s and share holders are finally realizing what every one else has known for years…
I guess the money infusion from Sony simply wasn’t enough. Not sure if we would’ve gotten Remake without Sony’s money but sad to see Rebirth isn’t doing as well. The game is amazing and currently my GOTY.
SE has NEVER been good at estimating realistic sales expectations. Just look at the reasons they basically killed Hitman because it failed to sell a copy to every single human on the planet, including fetuses.
Square needed to do this, yes their standards are way too high but with how much it happens they can’t afford to stay with one console especially because they’re still suffering the consequences for Avengers the sales
Now if only square would ditch their deal with the epic game store that would be great
Hmmm… exclusive titles aren’t much of an issue with a Steam Deck. 🤔😏
While I wanted to play FF7 Rebirth I sadly now have lost the hype and to butcher a comment I saw on a steam forum, what would of been a day 1 sale has now become a pick up when I feel like it, possibly on a deep sale kind of title. We’re still not certain about possible PC/Epic Games exclusivity yet either. PC players will be expected to wait as much as an extra year and still pay full price. Square will get no sympathy from me
FF16’s eikon fights are the best boss fights I’ve ever played in a video game. I hope people on the series x and PC get the opportunity to play the game.
Good, I assume they get a nice number for exclusivity, but like Pheonix Points Gamepass deal, it’s short sighted. Blows my mind.
Games look amazing, but I’m waiting for PC where they will be at their best, and I don’t want to buy them twice.
SE should have done that many years ago.
aww squeeznix missed their expected goals. learn to live with disappointment
Good. Exclusivity is bad for gaming.
I love Square, but they deservedly lost money to teach them a lesson. Certain 3rd party games should never be exclusive to any one platform because of the history of said title. When I saw that they brought over all the other FF games to xbox, I thought they took a turn away from major title exclusivity, but here we are. I would’ve loved to play FF16, but I sure as hell will not be buying a Sony console for it.
Im not buying a console for basically one or two exclusives when my second hand ps4 is alive and well lol 😂 plus ill wait for most exclusives to come to pc and on a deep sale cus I’m a cheap gamer
Now when the next FF is downgraded don’t come complaining about it
I can’t believe whoring Nier Automata around to every game franchise with a pulse couldn’t keep their stock prices up.
The thing is i would love to play both of these games, and i have a PC that could definitely handle them. They just need to release them and i’d happily buy both of them
I bet they will require PSN accounts
there is a ff16???
I often go to Best Buy during my lunch break and see tons of Rebirth copies on the shelves and ask an employee if they sell well and they told me only during the first week at launch but it didn’t sell out. All the copies on the shelves right now are still copies from the launch day.
Thank god DQ12 is still being developed.
Even if PC sales of FF16 and FF7 rebirth doesnt match PS5 sales, every bit helps, hopefully they all come to XBOX AND switch 2 too
I did not care for remake. It wasn’t a remake. I played hundreds of hours on PS1 FF7. I didn’t buy the other two as a result.
For me Square messed up bu making a slashed like franchise of FFVII which is my favorite and making it only PS5 exclusive, not to mention I do not want to buy it since they shifted the story a lot in the “remake” which gave me a sour taste my mouth.
Nintendo next, please. There is absolutely no reason for any game to be stuck on any one console.
I forgot FF16 existed. I was hyped for the game but I play on PC and wasn’t about to buy a PS5 for one game. Now when it comes out on PC I will wait even longer for it to be on sale. Had they released it day 1 on PC I would have paid full price.
Square shot themselves in the foot by taking exclusive deals. I think it’s odd that a company so big can be so incredibly short-sighted. Even when they did put ff7 remake on PC they let EPIC buy exclusivity for a year…..another big no no. Stop taking the easy money and put on all platforms and in the long run the sales will be much higher. The hype is long gone by the time the games come to other platforms and they won’t sell anywhere the levels they could have if they went multiplatform from the beginning
SE has always had ridiculous sales quotas
So Kingdom Hearts 3 on Steam when? Been waiting so many years to buy it.
FFXIV: Endwalker was a massive win for S.E… So massive they had to stop selling the game for some time.
The funniest part is that the news comes right after Sony decided that PC players need a PSN account linked to play their games on Steam.
Name a more iconic duo than Squirt-Enix and unmet sales expectations
Multiplat games are the future, no more exclusives
You won’t have games made to sell consoles like Sonic the Hedgehog.
You won’t have games tailored for a specific hardware, exploiting its best graphics and delivering experiences and controls unique to that hardware.
You won’t have that sense of each console having an identity, the games that define it.
But all of this is a small price to pay to make sure that you buy a machine, you can play everything, no need to buy two or more gaming machines to play all the games you want.
Me now wait for them to release kingdom hearts on pc
I wanted ff16 but I play only on the pc
Aaaah but that doble down in nfts
ONE GAME
DON’T KNOW WHY
BOUGHT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES TO BUY
If only they had done this a decade ago.
Its sad they didn’t already learn this lesson from FFVIIR (part one) and Stranger of Paradise. Especially SoP. Like, yeah we’re releasing on PC, but only on the storefront that no one really cares about.
Kind of a shame for FFVII REBIRTH. Fantastic game with amazing gameplay, characters and musics! Game of the Year so far. 135 hours of awesomeness during my vacations! ❤
The age of brand loyalty is now beginning to see its twilight.
I guarantee it’s just because the Final Fantasy whales (like myself) don’t have a PS5
BUT BUT BUT…PS5 SOLD 6 TRILLION UNITS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 CONSOLE SALE MEAN NOTHING LOSERS !!!!!!
Layoff suck. I hope the execs are taking a major paycut, too.
Incoming hastily made, poorly optimized PC ports
Want to increase sales? Remove the Denuvo malware from FF15 PC version. Then release future FF games without said malware. BAM, increased sales from PC players. Simple.
Im gonna call it. Going non exclusivity. Wont help much for Final Fantasy. The whole reason they even went tht long because Xbox jrpg numbers were never great. Souls games are different category.
They should also not exclusively release games too the Epic Games Store cause that PC store/launcher sucks and no one likes it or buys anything on there.
There is a FF16? Another Square Enix game to not buy.
They should release the games on other platforms except the switch shit gonna look like a pixie game switch gonna blow up trying to run it
Good on you Squeenix.
final fantasy made their fame and fortune because of sony…and also without sony bailing out square.. square would have went bankrupt ..
Cua…cua…cuaaaaaaaaaaaaa
:V
This can only be a good thing
Oh wow. Who would have guessed that selling games for only 1 system over every system would mean less people would buy it? Its almost like not everyone has every system. Now to get Sony to understand that crossplay is actually a good thing for them
No what Se needs to do is stop doing dumb shit like NFT’s, decent but not AAA games, Remake games like Parasite Eve, and Vagrant story games!
Exclusivity = monopoly
never ends well for the consumer. Square Enix finding out that if you dont own the rights, you dont get paid
It was only a matter of time…
used to be a console gamer but havent owned a console in years. why the fuk would i pay over 500 bucks for a console with nothing but mtx laden shitty live service games. yea no thnx. hopefully ppl will learn to finally stop wasting money on this crap.
They made FF16? I don’t even remember when 15 came out.
The problem is anything from asian gaming companies seems out of touch. Sony has made so many moves over the years that seemed like they can’t keep up with anything and their success has been a fluke. Crossplay had to be practically forced onto them by Epic. Stuff with helldivers and even the restrictions CONTINUING for GoT. And just the drip feed of their exclusives to PC. They are shooting themselves in the foot not embracing that gaming is becoming less about “console wars” and more of an interconnected community across all platforms.
Square enix finally understanding this is actually such a breathe of fresh air from an otherwise brilliant area that has brought so many great games.
Notice that there aren’t any layoffs in Square-Enix of Japan
Once my ps4 finally give’s out. I will be looking into buying a pc instead of a ps5. Sony has shot off enough toes as is, i doubt they can make the right steps.
I didn’t want to spend 75 on rebirth and I really want to play it. Greed is destroying gaming
smart decision on square enix’s part
Just waiting for Rebirth to come to steam pc
Tomorrow is gonna rain yep its Sony fault 😂😂
I’m a little disappointed with this mainly because of the fact that they said that the reason why Final Fantasy seven rebirth was so seamless is because of the fact that they only had to work with the PS five and the fact that they didn’t have to port it over to multiple platforms
I would’ve already bought FFXVI and 7 if they were on pc. I don’t have a ps5 and really have no plans of getting one.
Ff16 is actually a really great game. Good on square enix not to be exclusive
Well… Uh, that’s one way to learn I guess 😂? But Squenix will find another way to “fail to meet expectations, no 2 billions sales, sad, sad.” 😂
The age of exclusivity is coming to an end (unless you’re Nintendo). Not bringing your games to other platforms, even your first party ones, is nothing short of handicapping yourself.
Square has more exclusive games on Nintendo than they have on PS. I don’t know why people ignore this and only focus on PS exclusives.
The sky is blue bro. When is square happy when their not talking about nfts
Square Enix needs to stop helping Sony try to sell consoles snd start trying to make back a profit before they go bankrupt.
Spoiler alert: It won’t change much. Seriously, I can’t believe people are so short sighted on this.
JRPGs have historically NEVER sold well on Xbox and PC, even when those versions are included on day one. FF XV had only like 15% of its sales on XBox and PC, and 85% on PS4. People on those platforms just don’t care for JRPGs.
The only reason they are released there at all nowadays is because making ports costs close to nothing due to how similar architectures are and because game engines come with tools for making them out of box. But they are only a sales bonus, not a sales pilar.
Very disappointing to see because these are both awesome games.
all for not having 3rd party Exclusives – but some of this seems to be ALL on them for being overly greedy. Becasue even if they released FF16 and FF7 on xbox at the sa me time, they would ask for ALOT more copies and still could be like way over estimating their games.
Setting aside the hyper unrealistic expectations these publishers have, it was beyond stupid to lock these games to a single console platform.
That was never going to end well.
Shouldn’t have made FF7 remake a friggin trilogy that is $70 a piece. Total scam
Anyone can get paid lots of money to make stupid decisions. That’s exactly what these CEOs are… idiots paid way too much money to make stupid business decisions.
There is no reason for any Third Party title to be exclusive to one console. The short term monetary gain is never worth the long term ill-will of the customers.
Blame Sony and the Console scalpers. PS5 just isn’t a big thing.
But most square enix games came to PC later.
And barely anyone has an Xbox so I don’t understand what they really think is going to happen
What they failed to realize is during the scalper epidemic, due to availability most people just moved to PC for new games so to have good games release to x amount of millions wont cut it anymore, they gotta branch out to PC and possibly xbox and switch, seeing as thats xbox’s mission to recoup roi.
“quality over quantity” stock drops… Lmao
Is the steam deck oled worth the extra money or is is not much better than the LCD?
Cool now lets talk about Bloodborne…
The problem with Square is because they are making games no one asked for. Ive been saying it to people around me for a long time…THERE ARE TOO MANY GAMES! Most game studios are not sustainably run
Honestly what did they expect when nobody has even been able to get hold of a PS5 until recently and they only release it for one console? I reckon had it been PS4/PS5 sales would’ve been huge as many still have PS4s. You can only sell as many copies as people have consoles.
i wonder why they decided to confine themselves to just PS as a third party. i guess Xbox sucks, but why not PC?
Now if those rumors on dq3’s remake being shelved isnt true. I need me an ocotpath looking game
Sony is droping exclusivity! having your game on only one plataform in 2024 is just a bad decision
We all know Forspoken is to blame 😂
I want to launch a non traded gaming studio. How big a lottery jackpot do I need to win?
fuck square enix
“disappointing sales” is codeword for “we didnt make even more money”
You forgot to add “Kiryu English voice actor” to your video title so everyone knows your Kiryu’s English voice actor.
good, this was literally the only series i was holding out for pc ports from . Now i have no reason to get a ps5 , should be getting the next FF games on release now hopefully.
Holy shit…. Their first good decision in years
Also these game companies are out of touch with the current living crisis. As much as I wanted to buy these two games when they came out, i cant justify spending over $200 AUD for 2 games… its a joke
What killed FF7 Remake wasn’t exclusivity. It was chopping that game up into multiple games. I was so hyped. That shit immediately killed it for me.
Never made sense idk how they thought it was going to play out. Lets spend AAA amounts of money to release a game on one platform as a 3rd party developer / publisher? That math doesn’t work out in 2024 unless you are a console maker with hardware to move and even then it’s starting not to make sense. Sony themselves have been saying that their 1st party exclusive’s haven’t been bringing in enough money hence the desire to branch out to PC same for MS. Each FF game would at least double it’s sales by being available on as many platforms as possible. It’s an arraignment that only ever benefited Sony and only happened because they are both Japanese companies imo.
I mean…Yay?
Covid not being a thing anymore may sound like the investors got complacent with the temporarily inflated user base and extra revenue. Iirc this hasnt happened before.
Final Fantasy box is dead. At least everyone wins by getting to play these games now no matter the platform they own now.
I mean also knowing the fact that FF16 was coming to PC at some point and that Rebirth was also coming to PC in like half a year or so, some people would rather just wait
Literally every mainline FF title is on PC as well as a decent portion of the spinoffs. No reason why we did not get FF16 and FF7 Rebirth ports other than bs console exclusivety that hurts the overall market. It felt disheartening that i had to miss out on these great titles just because I didn’t have $500 to give Sony..
Square loves underperforming, that’s why they even started doing NFTs
hopefully Exclusivity is phased out of gaming all together in the near future
by the time part 3 arrives their should be between 90-100 million ps5
Wanted to play FF16 for my channel, couldn’t cause it wasn’t on steam lol.
Thank you Chong Yue for the awesome news.
Sony is taking L after L after L.
So Xbox is dead and now PS is dying. Good.
The more this industry suffers, the better.
Maybe they shouldn’t have blown all that money on NFTs and micro transactions.
Reckon they’ll remove the lead from their water pipes next?
But didn’t Sony pay them enough to make up for any anticipated loss from going exclusive with them? I feel like this thing isn’t being discussed.
It’s great that everyone is going to enjoy FFVII Rebirth, but honestly with the studio closeings Microsoft doesn’t deserve it.
I’ll only be happy when FF goes back to turn based goodness. I’ve hated FF ever since XIII-3. This action RPG stuff doesn’t do it for me.
Took them so long, but finally the FF sony exclusivity curse has been lifted
Rare Square Enix W
I hope more publishers listen to this and follow SE example.. Like, I want to play Bloodbourne, but I’m never buying a console to play it.
If sony didn’t fund the game personally, why should it be exclusive? It sure took squeenix long enough to realize they sony was scamming the shit out of em
Heads up for any game studio out there: stop spending half a billion dollars for a videogame. You are insane if you think you’ll break even, it’s not worth the risk and the stress.
Hopefully they will also stop with the wokeness.
With the current costs of AAA games is absurd to still keep exclusivity, xbox did learn and Nintendo AAA aren’t nearly as expensive
Maybe they should start making some GOOD games instead of pathetic, cringe attempts at childish comedy.
Exclusivity for 3rd party only harm the 3rdp. Only 1st party should be exclusive to its platform,
I never bought a PS5 and never will, I’ve jumped to PC for good. Of course i havent bought FF7 yet, I can’t
We need to stop giving af about investors if nothing is good enough for them. And even when they are happy it’s all about what’s next anyway.
They tried that TWICE. The FF XIII trilogy & FFXV. Both times the Xbox versions sold LESS than the PS version because of not only MS’ fanbase preferring shooters & racers, but because of Japan not caring about the American console.
And after MS laid off their Japanese team, a FF7 Remake Trilogy & FF 16 wouldn’t sell as much as PS. Especially because of the Game Pass.
Square has insane expectations when Final Fantasy & Kingdom Hearts are their only money-makers.
Me here waiting when FF7: RB arrives on PC while Square Enix is already concluding their sales & calling it a disappointment..
YEEEEESSSSSS!
not having a ps4 version of 16 and rebirth is what hurt the sales
Wow. It’s weird seeing them make an actual good move for once… Even if this was entirely their own fault to begin with.
Production costs are just too high now for AAA games to be exclusive to one console or PC exclusive.
That’s on them. They signed exclusivity rights and logically that means money gets limited. SquareEnix should’ve known that already.
Good
Consoles and their exclusives used to make sense, but after unified architecture, that is no longer the case. Consoles need internet for everything. I’m not saying PC master race or anything (more like elitist scums), but exclusivity need to die. Release all games in ALL platform. ALL platform.
Wow. Not a big fan of the Final Fantasy series or Square in general (with the exception of Kingdom Hearts games). But I am glad that Square decided to break up with PlayStation. Honestly I kkind of outgrew PlayStation after the PS2, and moved to Nintendo systems…best choice I ever made. I just feel that Nintendo has WAY better first party exclusives. Sure PlayStation and X Box are better for third party, but I am not big on many of the IPs Sony and Microsoft have. Only a few
What a surprise limiting who can play your games to a select few if not one platform(s) for years would inevitably affect your sales numbers.
When does Square Enix not say sales disappoint though…
I really like ff16. How come it didn’t do well?
Good, everyone should be able to play these great games
Good 👍
Besides In house exclusivity the rest makes no sense really.
I guess PlayStation isn’t the centre of the universe anymore
wait people who say this not talking about how nintendo has more exclusive PS but yall not talking about that and their low sells
I almost wanna get on Reddit. I bet the Sony ponies are stroking out lol.
Almost like square never realized that their games aren’t going to sell like the OG ff7 just becuase they have final fantasy in the title. Well, better for everyone now they can all get them.
Fricking finally
No sh*t Squeenix. 😒 Who gave them the idea that everyone got a PS5 in their homes? There are more Switch and PC users, than PS5. Ofc they were doomed to fail from the start.
I only fear they compromise the game by making sure it runs well on other platforms… exclusivity creates a better development due to only focusing on one console, still i want everybody to ply this game!!! FF7R2 is the best game i have ever played! And everybody should have a chance to enjoy it! Hopefully development wont be compromised
Idk man but you putting a fucking cut scene in the middle of my DPS might have something to do with it.
About time.
that’s honestly great to hear but it honestly wouldn’t make sense for Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 3 due to the fact Xbox didn’t get the other 2
Every bad day for Sony is a good day for the gaming community
YES FINALLY HALLELUJAH GET SHIT ON SONY
Yeah, might have been a better idea to make them multiplatform from the start. Remember, the PS5 wasn’t exactly easy to find on launch.
oh , selling a game only on one platform doesn’t sell as well as selling it on all platform ? i wonder why ….
Exclusivity is never good for the customer. It’s only good for the platform holder.
The time of year after year growth is over. Its unsustainable
When is it enough for investors? When?!
About time they did this. Exclusivity helps no one, it tanks sales and prevents a great part of the fanbase from enjoying those games. All I can say is good ridance.
What did they expect tbh?
sony never made fucking sense why they are banning games to be released in pc, its literally fucking free money snoytards. what is their reason for doing so?
More and more people are moving to PC. This is the best decision Square could have made!
That’s so many bot comments
Exclusivity of 3rd party titles benefits no one but the platform holder.
Im all for it people deserve to play these games. Just want the game to have the best performance it can
My problem with these games are exactly that: they are PS5 exclusively, and i cant afford a PS5
Good all games should be playable on all platforms that can run them. Simple as that.
You mean square enix is going multiplatform after their games disappoint. Is a better alternative title. But console war clicks are better
Wow, limiting your game to only approx 1/3 of your user base limits your sales! Who woulda thought?
The first comments are all phishing bots 💀😭
I wonder if they are going to blame their western division for this?
4 seconds 0 views, Pucci really fell off after Part 6
See you guys next time when they do it again anyways.
Shudve done that ages ago. Never understand exclusivity anyway
Im so happy 😁 F8NALLY THE CONVERGENCE IS HAPPENING!!!!
Happy more people will get to play these great games. Even if I disagree with Square that the sales are disappointing.
Never made sense to not release FF16 on PC
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