I’m seeing a lot of fights and stuff in the comments over how this fight is lazy and stuff. Here’s my take on it:

I think the boss is alright, he has a plethora of new moves and his attacks definitely seem way faster and so it’s basically like a endgame tuned version of the boss you fight in the base game, which I think was a cool boss anyways and so I don’t mind this fight. However, the requirements to unlock this fight is to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet which I think is very tedious and way too difficult of a requirement in order to unlock this fight. Especially since there is no reward for doing this fight, this fight is done only for bragging rights. I think that either the requirements to unlock this fight should be easier, or that there should be some reward to compensate having to S rank all 20 waves. Also, of course when anything final fantasy is brought up recently, people are gonna compare it to ff7 rebirth. So here’s my take on that as well: I think that rebirth and ff16 are equally as good, it’s 50/50 for me because I do have a bias towards action rpg games. Some of my favorite games of all time which I’ve put the most playtime into after all are dark souls, elden ring, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Nioh, etc. and so I hold this game in high regards. I think rebirth has a bunch of things it does better than this game like sidequests and stuff, but also think this game has a bunch of things it does better than rebirth such as boss fights. Of course this is just my opinion but I’ve been seeing a lot of people who think that this game is a lazy hot piece of garbage and that if you even remotely like it, that you are just coping and that rebirth is so much better. Which I think is crazy lmao, people have their game preferences and some people may not like the party fighting based gameplay of rebirth and would prefer the solo fighting experience that ff16 gives. The combat of this game will either click with you well or it will not. And if the combat of this game doesn’t feel good to those people then obviously they might just click with rebirth a lot better. None of these games are objectively better than the other and so all the arguments going on over which is objectively better is just pointless and it’s unnecessary.

I was planning on skipping the combat gameplay just to watch the cutscenes. But then I ended up staying because I love Find the flame. And then I was kinda mesmerized by how much ass you kick lol, wtf are those crazy combos?! At least now I’m sure I aint getting to that secret boss

This game has set my expectations high for future use of summons.

danm so many comments and views nicely done

Learning there is such an incredible boss fight locked behind such ridiculous conditions that probably not even 1% of the playerbase is ever gonna get to try is dumbfounding. I doubt even the majority of players who beat FF mode and get the Platinum are gonna be putting themselves through this, the Kairos gate is already difficulty enough and adding the ridiculous scoring system on top sucks ALL the fun out of this.

I have to presume that while we’re 100% not getting any more content for 16 that we get at least one or two more patches that aim to increase stability, FPS, fix any bugs and glitches which surely a bunch of new boss fights and two new Eikon power sets will have unleashed and while they’re at it buff a few more abilities and remove this ridiculous condition, just clearing all 20 stages should be enough.

Clive is the best boy no, CLIVE IS THE MAN!!!

No new ost? Booo

Whats that sword?

with how Yoshida teased this I expected a crossover secret boss like FFXIV / Gilgamesh or even Diabolos cuz he wants it so bad in FF16, disappointed to see chrome pack inner Clive fight for secret boss, at least I won’t bother with this now

another boss when completing every stage on S? wtf I didnt knew that🤯🤯🤯

Wait there are no rewards for this fight.. like none? I like to 100% a game but no rewards is wild

The Secret Boss is really disappointing. There were far better ones in other FF games.
Enemy recycling should be banned.

So… are we still having the same ending after all these hard work? 🤔

Qualcuno sa come sbloccare l’ultima spada del DLC. Perché mi manca un materiale ma non so dove trovarlo

Amazing skills from you, but yeah a bit of a shame on the boss fight. I don’t think it’s lazy, but the cutscene dialogue preceding and following the fight definitely is.

Dark Clive hum ?
Would be way better to have gilgamesh instead. Even a near end journey gilgamesh to make him more serious/mature with all the previous main ff1/ff15 hero weapons.
Or at least, to keep up with the teasing and fan service, some ff9 exclusive eikons like hades, ozma, or ARK would have been better

DMC wasn’t silly enough to lock things behind the scoring system. They should’ve just did ultimaniac kairo for this.

Game is too easy, it’s just flashy.

Ure so trash can’t even parry in the game stop dodging bro and get good. Stop dodging and learn parry

Which dlc is better? I wanna play both, but Echoes of the fallen seems kinda meh

How did you get to use Original Sin in Kairos? I’m stuck using the default Invictus model

The boss is cool, but a possessed Ultima Joshua would have been a better secret boss. Like a new moveset. I think that would be cool. Ultima was trying to take over joshuas body when joshua sealed him away.

I’m stupid I’m bought american version of dlc but I had wrong disk my money is gone 😢😢😢

How are you level 80 I was only level 40 when I did this

is this fight just shadow clive from the base game but harder?

It sucks that this fight is useless. Fighting our inner shadow seems like a perfect opertunity to unlock ifrit! And use him in combat! Like devil may cry 5 has sin devil trigger, we should unlock ifrit as a super move at least or something for this fight

Wow I thought you just had to have a S rank by the end of a run not for all the damn circles. Well there goes my interest in fighting this boss. The scoring is so terrible imo. I feel like I did very good throughout my run and I was barely getting a rank B. Why is it so hyper focused on stalling it out with abilities instead of you know, playing good and beating the waves fast? I get not wanting people to just spam ult abilities but no reward for beating waves fast and efficiently makes no sense to me.

Sickkk!!! A master indeed. Ggwp

Clive vs Clive AGAIN. How original

Had a very urgent question how do people do that very cinematic precision dodge where it goes slow motion did I miss something 😭

Been waiting for this to be uploaded since I’m too lazy to get S ranks lol

Any new good/gamechanging gear in this dlc?

You failed! You were flawless until you got hit lol you fail me as gamer lol Joking

How the hell are you getting an S in every single challenges?

Thanks for posting, im happy just watching it on youtube. Uf no amazing reward im just guno pass on it.

Is it true that you cant change accesories in kairos?

Damn didn’t know there was a secret fight that is epic

Is mesmerize actually good ? Not effective for me

I believe im the only weirdo who enjoys more FFXVI than FF7 in general (rebirth included). I’ve tried many times to force myself to keep playing FF7 but yet it’s all mini-games and anything else.

I can’t say FF7 is not the masterpiece that’s considered but I really cant see the big deal about it tbh. In the other hand, FFXVI is really enjoyable for me. The fight is way less restrictive than FF7 (idk about rebirth yet) and the story is more interesting.

Clive is way superior than Cloud and rest of the cast of FF16 is more interesting than the cast of FFVII too.

Is the game a masterpiece?
Could have been but it truly lacks a lot of stuff that’s necessary to become one but it’s really close to it. And stop asking for a turn base FF, it’s been years since the last once and they like it like that. I myself really enjoy turn based FF as 2 of my 3 fav FF are like that (FFVI and Tactics A2) but it’s not necessary anymore. Having an open world either. FFXVI is a game that focuses a lot more in the narrative than anything else and it does a great job doing it!

Holly F*uck!!! That was amazing!!! Ahh i wish i was that skilled, i get all frantic and lose hahahahaha, waw that was great, congratz 🙂

Not going to lie, I was hoping that this would be either Alexander or Gilgamesh

I beat the floors on new game plus 3 ff mode and they didn’t wanna give me this fight? Ridiculous 😂 still a great game tho

How original lol

I love FF16 so much but Kairos Gate ain’t it. I was never a fan of the arcade ultamaniac point amassing builds that you were forced to use in order to get decent scores. Now we have this. I am super picky about collecting everything in this game but this Kairos Gate ain’t it. It’s exactly as this creator said, tedious. I love the idea of a dungeon that goes back to back to back fights (giving costlemark tower vibes in FF15 if you know you know) but the SCORING SYSTEM! Just let me play the builds I want to play. Not to mention this kinda defeats the purpose of this new build loadouts. I don’t know. Anyone agree? Or do I just give in to the point amassing nonsense.

Bummer

Can I ask what you’re doing with the Shiva move by dodging into the boss?

I think rewards that enhance limit break for you and torgul or an unlimited limit break accessory would be simple but cool rewards for this fight, a shadow clive and limit broken clive skin would be cool too as rewards

how do you activate the berserker ring perk? what type of boon are you upgrading?

Oh how shocking, a lazy dark link bonus added to a bonus eikon that looks like the Skeksis from Dark Crystal. First we have Necron syndrome with Endwalker and now this, next summer vacation…what is yoshi p smoking these days?

Yo good stuff dude, I’ve platinumed DMC games, Ninja Gaiden. I’ve seen some fiendish stuff, but theres always someone better like you. I truly believe I dont understand the combo system enough to S rank every stage, however…I have completed kairos gate.

thanks for the valliant effort, stylish action gamer.

impossible

I kinda wished to fight Knights of the round but I ain’t complainin

wow! great job I thought it would be a few more days before we got to see this

tbf ppl mald over this but it’s more or less what Bloody palace does so……eeeh? I don’t get much of the complaints, it’s definitively easier since you get buffs to use also.

That said Bloody palace has the feature to allow you to test floors you’ve been in, which here is missing….would’ve been nice if that was possible.

Considering that you can beat Kairos gate on normal mode, I think this secret fight should be unlocked just for beating it on Final Fantasy mode. Especially considering once you die, or get the S rank, you have to start all over again. I hated that about the brutal and legendary vr missions on rebirth.

I wish they would give FF games the Tales of series treatment where you can fight characters from the last game as a secret Boss.
Imagine a Noctis Super Boss fight in FF16

I think after beating kairos gate we should be able to do the circles individually, theyve already not given us a boss rush mode and seeing how things are going now. The pc release is the only hope of us getting new content

If you lose to the fight, do you have to s rank Kairos Gate again to rechallenge? Or can you just challenge him again?

Question..
Why is there a different version of precision dodge and how do you activate your version in this video.
I have been trying for a whil and my dodge only makes clive dodge to the left or right normally.

I wanted to love this dlc, but it still seem like the same gameplay, perfect dodge/attack. And a reused boss cmon now 😢

Did it give a reward ?? Like a sword or something

I enjoyed this boss originally so I don’t mind it as much. But the requirements to get to it are way too high and it’s really not worth the effort unless you just really want to do it.

Nice sword! What sword is that?

this game has gay and sucks ass

What’s the floating ball do?

Instead of replying to people imma just leave this comment as a general statement.

Anyone saying its the same fight again is certifiably high.
Similar i’d give you but same is just plain ignorance.

Well that’s a disappointing secret boss.

What’s that new sword and is it stronger than the Ultima Weapon?

Now if the Scoring system wouldn’t suck so hard, I would be absolutely happy with the game

why people even complaining about this, this is a secret fight to an extra piece of content that isn’t even the main focus of the dlc.

Decades of final fantasy and we have this piece of garbage thank you square enix

This is their secret boss? They can’t be serious.

well no reward at all :/

Very disappointing that its just a reused fight

This game is so good!!! Anyone who doesn’t agree is just stuck in the old ways.

There is any reward?