Nah, it shouldnt be this bad. Just play some other PS5 titles then you boot rebirth in performance mode, its like “what the hell happened! My PS5 is broken??”

do not let this guy review Final Fantasy games anymore, this Mac gamer lied in his PC review of FF7 Remake.

ff16 hands down the best looking game I have ever played my god.

This game so badly needs a 40fps mode.

we play rpgs for the story and characters, I know its shocking.

Funny how reviewers rate this games with 10’s while other games with these clunky movement animations, and visual representation would have resulted in a way lower rating. I really don’t like what they delivered in terms of visuals, mechanics etc. Feels like a rush job where they wanted to do stuff but could not get enough time to polish and refine. My head and eyes hurt watching at the stutter in 30fps mode, my heart breaks at the low resolution textures that are in your face, shadows that disappear for no reason just for it to show up again walkin a meter or 2, weird dynamic lighting (under Junon I had a point where a whole section was overbrighted to the max and some where almost pitch black, light leaks and bad shadow occlusion, clunky jumping animation and overal traverse animations, the camera movement is horrible. Its so janky at times that it flashes between two states which gets a bit to much. I think people need to come down from that pink cloud they are riding (Dutch saying, and no pun intended) and see that this game feels very unfinished. The linear parts of the game are better. In my experience, this game does not earn the praise beyond the story aspect. And im a real ff7 fan.

ahh again console next gen looks like 720p from ps3 era lol

Give us 40fps mode ffs!!

I don’t care about quality of the game or visuals when it’s a simple fact that a game that can’t run 60 at a decent resolution is a sign of incompetence. There were beautiful games on PS2, PS3, and PS4, but now with all the ‘power’ of PS5 you need to pick between performance or fidelity? No. Inability to properly budget memory and polygons is purely a competence issue and this is just a fact. Why can horizon zero dawn run at 4k60 on a PS5 and look just as good with a fully open world as rebirth does with a restricted one on lower resolution at barely 30? It’s not like unreal engine is lacking in technical capabilities in comparison to decima, but you turn on the photo mode and zoom out a little bit and rebirth looks like it had a stroke. Meanwhile performance mode would give a Gameboy a run for its money on pixel count, might as well be a mosaic, and poppin is invasively extensive. I’m so tired of console developers pushing visual clutter over performance where it’s not necessary.

You can’t win. At least with FFXVI graphics mode looked good even if it was at 30fps.

Rebirth on the order hand you can’t win. Either pick extreme levels of TAA ghosting at 30fps or Vaseline filter at 60 fps.

Performance modes in games a lot these days have resolutions in between 1080p and 1440p, usually closer to 1080. This is a bit ridiculous. Id have expected that from PS4 pro, and Xbox one X, it the next Gen consoles that came afterwards.

And people will be saying it’s too early for a PS5 Pro. 🤣

Well well well…
So apparently not only Xbox games are at 30 fps, right?
Are you gonna eat your words, fanboys?
What a mess is this game in the graphics department.
You cannot hide that. Letdown of the year so far…

Do you have to play remake before rebirth?

I dont have any of these issues with the game. Not sure how or why but i dont

1152p for performance? Looks more like 480p

Set PS5 output to 1080p to correct the bad upscale post-processing blurriness! (Performance mode).

4K TVs set PS5 output to 1080p, no blurriness on performance mode looks much better! 👍😁

IMO they should have gone with a more drawing like art style instead of going for realism.

I just read that the games director acknowledges the performance mode issues and is working on a patch to fix it.

I’m definitely having a lot of fun with this one it is a little annoying that quality mode is unplayable and performance mode is blurrier than it should be I hope they fix it soon but I’ll probably have 100% it by the time they do that

I definitely get the feeling this game was rushed all in all

30 fps……que basura es la PS5.

They made tifa and aeris looke like they want to eat you every time they look at you

This is not a 1st party game. Why can’t they just release simultaneously on PC ffs.

To avoid spoilers, 40% of the game. Crack on DF.

AAA game still running on UE4 on a 4 year old console, no bells and whistles, might as well throw this on PS4

Would have been nice if there was a slider for motion blur on the options. Final Fantasy XVI had this and made the 30fps mode more pleasant in the eyes. I hope Square enix patch it

Why do a tech review on cur scenes lol

I will never understand why games aren’t optimized for a 60FPS, 1440p Graphics mode. You’d get the fidelity and FPS at a fairly standard resolution

9:07 I can’t believe we still have not reached “FOLIAGE THAT ACTUALLY MOVES WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH IT” next gen which is now current gen is MORE THAN CAPABLE OF IT, for some reason devs are just too lazy to do animations for it, why is that so hard? I would seriously be more impressed at this point by detailed animations over just pretty visuals that are stiff, that just doesn’t cut it anymore.

If you can hop on one leg why can’t Barret climb with one arm?

Man, performance mode looks like a switch game. Wtf.

9:31 perfect lip sync

It’ll be fixed on the Pro or PS6 with the release of Intergrade 2 😅

You all saw the disappearing deer @3:53 right?

Yeah not watching this too much gameplay from past chapter 3 in the video. Cmon guys spoilers much

On my LG CX Oled it looks so blurry it hurts. Graphic Mode looks fine but that 30fps is choppy like hell. It feels not like 30 fps, it feels much worse. For me the game is unplayable

Lets be honest , it disappoints man …

The performance is better than last the game

16 looked and ran terrible in performance mode. Its “quality” is because its an entirely different scope of game while rebirth is trying to be an actual video game instead of a sequence of hallways and then the credits.

Great reaview Ollie, really disappointing to see the end result here – looks atrocious at times. Clearly looks primed for a similar directors cut for new consoles with the problems fixed. PC will inevitably be riddled with UE4 stutter

More graphical means need more power right? We need PS5 Pro or PS6 for next gen FF.

Any news about future patches for the game..Or the devs are happy withe the sales and they move on

I’m waiting for the eventual PS5 Pro. The performance mode is great when it comes to holding a steady framerate, but the fidelity is just not where it needs to be. Graphics mode is nicer to look at. However, the fluidity is just not that pleasing to the eye, especially when it’s in full motion. I pray that they don’t re-release this game for PS6. Instead, just tweak the settings for the PS5 Pro version because I literally do not want to wait for an intergrade version of Rebirth.

The lack of proper shadows and ambient occlusion is sad. Cause the pure asset quality and lighting has a lot of beauty to it, but without the nuance of proper shadows to ground everything, it comes off very flat.

Crazy how their 7 year old FF on PS4 looks and performs miles better than this “next gen” game.

Love these detailed reviews. Game still looks great though.

Performance mode looks like dogshit.

Wow! Great job Square. You surely spent alot of time upgrading the assets in the game! 2:37

Performance mode looks like garbage compared to Remake, on a 32” 4K monitor. I’m tempted to scale down to a 27” 4K monitor now…

Square Enix did a fantastic job with Remake … WTF happened to Rebirth?? There’s just no excuse — if Horizon Forbidden West can pull it off — why can’t this??

2:36 TIIIIIFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAA

Seems like Square hasn’t been able to get the performance mode right in Remake and XVI. Strange. As much as I’d prefer Performance Mode, it’s too blurry for these games. Graphics Mode isn’t too bad. I’m fine with it.

game on a lg oled c2 tv, the difference between quality and performance mode is very noticeable! in quality mode the game is much sharper and more beautiful even in the textures, now in performance mode the game is blurred with washed textures and without definition only in the cutscenes and that improves a little. Anyway, it’s a shame for a game called Final Fantasy to come like this for a new generation of consoles, Square Enix didn’t take advantage of the power of the PS5, the graphics in performance mode is disappointed

its so weird when a game released 20 years later doesn’t have some of the features that ps2 games had like water ripples and reflections

I really think final fantasy games in general should hit pc day one because the console version still struggles to hit 60fps on performance mode that mayority gamer choose to play. No one is paying $70 to play it on 30fps.🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

Hard disagree about FF16, I thought it looked terrible especially the performance mode.

9:31

the ui also looks strangley low res. the icons in the menu look mostly fine but the big menu elements look like cheap jpegs and i don’t know if thats only me or the game. Remakes UI was superb in that regard

For me the way some structures appear in the distance can really break immersion. Especially compared to ff16

I just started the game. I played Intermission a few days ago and the difference in graphical quality is jarring so I immediately came here to make sure I wasn’t crazy. I’m still in Nibelheim but so far Graphics mode is much sharper but feels like 20fps. Performance is significantly smoother but is so blurry that I can tell sitting 10ft from the TV and my god when I actually walked up to it to see how blurry it was, I was kind of astonished at how bad it was. Graphics mode feels unplayable to me so I guess I just have to deal with Performance. I hope they do something to fix this soon.

This game should run 200+ fps with how it looks , its nothing short of ps2 graphics.

8:52 the reflection on the water is really annoying, that’s the same in many games (Hogwarts Legacy, Cyberpunk 2077), why there is the effect ?

12:40, those blue pipes in the “graphics mode” look like an upscaled PS2 asset… What were they doing with this game? It looks like a hot mess -_-

The amount of pop in in this game is insane, also has graphical bugs even in graphics mode. Crazy how no one is speaking how bad it is.

This is not a hardware issue this is a developer and UE4 issue. Other games using other game engines look and run great on ps5 in performance mode . Just look at forbidden west

The Anti-aliasing on the hair and foliage is exceptionally bad and yes the lighting and shadows is very inconsistent and don’t even get me started on the obvious pop in and glitches throughout the world.

Performance mode streaming over Chiaki4 Deck to a steam deck OLED is absolutely the best way to play Rebirth IMO. I’d love to see the performance mode be better but it just doesn’t look good on my LG C2 and definitely suffers from the normal issues 30fps has on an OLED. The smaller screen of the steam deck essentially has no concessions with performance mode.

I was shocked how bad performance mode looks. This may be one i wait to play until its patched

I know this sounds weird. But try using the system settings to force 1080p.
For whatever reason i think forcing 1080p in performance mode looks better than 2160p and 1440p using performance mode.
Or maybe its just my imagination? I dunno.

This is hilarious, I see why fans of this franchise are pissed 😤😂😂💀😂

I would choose graphics mode. Honestly, graphics mode for remake was absolutely tolerable, I actually didn’t mind it whatsoever and I’m 99% of the time a pc player on a 240hz monitor. It just worked great and was paced well, with great motion blur. Spider-Man was the closest comparable in this regard! But what the hell, 1100p? Insanity! I’m waiting on the PC release; I just can’t get over bad shadow cascade and pop-in, in games like this, it is just SO distracting! The cuts are just disappointing in general and the bad traversal animations are the cherry on top. Super weird

I haven’t started the game yet, but the colors look so washed out. Remake’s colors were very vibrant and incredible, but Rebirth looks… too bright?? Like the saturation has been lowered by a bunch. I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but it’s very noticeable, having just replayed Remake.

We really need a dynamic mode with 30-ish fps while exploring and 60fps when entering any battle

I pre-ordered the deluxe but I will keep playing my backlog until they fix this game.

I’ve been playing in graphics mode. It’s jarring at times but I’m managing

Very disappointing seeing as how gorgeous and well developed FF16 looks even on performance mode

Big ups Tifa’s goodies.

Performance mode always.

I know you guys touched up on bad textures but after playing the game I can’t believe some of them.

There is a particular flower that appears inside buildings in the demo that has really bad textures it looks like a mass of polygons with barely any semblance of it looking like a flower. If you told me it was colorful ice cream I would believe you.

This flower appears after the Nibelhime intro in other areas of the game and I can’t believe this is in the game. I mean it’s just hideous something that I would expect from a PS3 game or worse.

Plenty of other bad textures all around but I think this one is the most awful to me.

I also can’t believe the game looks so blurry even in quality mode even doing something like VR missions in which there is not a lot of stuff going on.

Remake looks so crisp in performance compared to Rebirth on graphics mode it’s kind of unbelievable.

Also something you guys didn’t touch upon is pop in. There is a crazy amount of pop in even at short distances. One I saw was so short a distance that it was inside a house and walking two steps would make the item have disappearing parts.

How can this game have such massive visual problems? The game was rushed in my eyes.

Graphically isn’t that different than Remake on PS4 apart from the cutscenes that are of higher quality but the differences are only apparent when compared side by side!! So it’s quite disappointing in that regard!

“Your relationship with Tifa has changed.”
“Your relationship with Aerith has changed.”
“Your relationship with Red XIII has changed.”

Wait, back up

They should’ve asked to use the horzion franchise game engine

Performance mode has been really blurry in my experience and kind of distracting. Hoping they can fix that

Seeing these piss poor graphics performance on the latest games on the PS5 makes me really sad and also appreciate what Guerrilla Games have done and developed in HFW – they’re technical geniuses. It looks absolutely incredible and runs flawlessly – in any mode. The Decima engine is THE defining game engine for the PS5 from the ground up.

1440p display. MY BALLS! It looks like Gameboy Advance. XD

30fps is unplayable.
60fps is blurry so unplayable

OK waiting on PC version.

Since I’m playing on an Oled tv, I play at 60 fps…. 30 fps is almost unplayable on an oled screen.

At least this developer understands that the words “performance mode” _ACTUALLY FUCKING MEAN SOMETHING._ I’m sick of games with so-called “performance modes” that run like absolute dogshit. FF16, Jedi Survivor (at launch, prior to the far-too-late fix), etc. At least here they did what they had to do to ensure that the _performance mode_ actually, you know, _PERFORMS._ It also doesn’t look _nearly_ as bad as some of you are making it out to look.

I almost bought a ps5 just for this game. while I have a PC with a 4080.
gotta stay patient.

I think it’s unfair to compare the visuals of this game to FF16 and FF7 Remake. This game is way more ambitious than either of those titles when it comes to both the gameplay and the design of the world.

“I did notice a bit of ghosting as well but it’s otherwise a good image results” !!

Both Quality and Performance modes have it, it’s so bad and so annoying.

This video could have been : Tifa model upgrade, 100% buy

One hell of a game though. Unbelievably good.

Good to see you covering this game, Oliver. We wouldn’t want to see John slog through another open world game (a type of game he notoriously despises, apparently).

The Zack intro sequence especially looked almost like a PS3 game, the quality in character modelling between this part of the game and lets say the beginning of chapter 2 almost looks like two different games, I wonder how a huge difference like that can be possible.

This game looks like dog poop compared to intergrade you underselling here

FINAL FANTASHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No idea where this idea of graphics mode holding at 30 comes from. Their example was either cherry picked or something fishy is going on, because graphics mode is anything but a steady 30.

I just wish performance mode didn’t look like a blurry ghosty mess, and graphics mode didn’t run at 10fps with horrible frame pacing. Tech wise this game is an absolute, utter mess.

Thanks for uploading the very first honest review of this game. I’m baffled at how every other media outlet is overestimating how good and pristine this game looks.

I’ve started chapters one and two, and I was shocked by the amount of poor textures and low-res objects – not to mention the annoying amount of pop-in. And despite how lush the open world is, the characters sliding over slopes and the lack of interaction with foliage are way too distracting. Damn, this is a PS5 game. I’ve seen better open worlds in PS4.

I’m in a love / hate relationship with this game. Really hope they see this video and fix it ASAP.

well, i guess im gonna wait till it drops on PC

imagine this on a powerfull PC… 😍

It needs like a 45 fps mode that mixes resolution and fps to find a sweet spot.

Why won’t devs support graphics mode in VRR?

Motion Blur should never exist in video games. And honestly if I could I would turn off shadows just like I do in PC games. I don’t need them.

I hope this gets fixed on pc release😅

Going from Remake on pc last week to this is just awful. It is so blurry. Luckily I have a S95C and use their interpolation tech and play on quality. It isn’t perfect, but it is better that regular 30 fps with the shit off on oled and it isn’t blurry like performance mode. Consoles would be a lot mroe fun this generation if more devs used 40fps modes. I guess not enough ppl have 120hz tvs (which is ridiculous) so they dont feel the need. I feel 40 fps is the sweet spot for consoles and I dont hate it coming from a 4090 high fps pc.

Oli vid 😪

Ff7 remake looks better on ps4 than rebirth on ps5

Playing on Performance, I could care less how a game looks, pretty graphics are by far the last thing I look at, I care more about my shit then graphics. Plus Graphics mode in this game to me has this nauseating and odd stutter and chugs along makes me hella sick, Performance feels and looks smooth which is all I want in a game

Don’t trust y’all anymore, cuz Xbox paid y’all 💯💯💯

It’s like they accidently gave us the PS4 Port on the PS5.
At this rate PS4 Remastered games look better than Native PS5 games. : (!

Seriously, wtf is wrong with the performance mode in this game. 16 had the same problem and it’s still not fixed. 😡

Graphics mode is working great for me. Only time it gets a bit less smooth is some big areas out in the open. I am ising a high quality 2.1 cable running into a Sony TV. Gorgeous picture, wouldn’t think of running in performance mode.

hope they patch the performance mode. its a blurry mess we are not in 2009 with low resolution anymore. please fix it🥲

and before people say its a next gen game or ps5 hardware is outdated, look at spiderman,rdr2,witcher3,god of war etc

The graphics in Rebirth are _such_ a noticeable downgrade from the graphics in Intergrade and and FF16. I am incredibly disappointed in Square for this. However, overall, Rebirth is better gameplay and story wise than Intergrade and FF16 so i’m split on Rebirth.

I’ve been playing on graphics mode and it’s fine on a large TV with sensitivity turned up. I’ll play at 4k 120+ fps on my monitor when it comes to pc. My main problem is the LIGHTING and HDR looks mad washed out

Yeah performance mode is a no go for me. I’m turning my motion blur all the way up for this 1.

The performance mode is giving me Xenoblade 2 vibes. I’ll wait until things get better.

It needs a patch

I still think ff16 looks the best open world wise, those huge mother crystals towering over buildings and just waking through the petal of flowers, leaves as a lone warrior made me feel badass. Plus Clive looks badass himself😂

I have an msi monitor and it has an image strengthening option and it looks amazing.

disappointing to hear and see. FF7 remake looks better

7:14 That animal is hanging with you 🤪

I see the team are also cultured, thanks for 2:36! 😁

I gotta stop pre-ordering games, I seriously though this was Square Enix baby, and they wouldn’t put anything but top quality

RE engine is much better.

This is awful

Square Enix is so burned out with remaking Final Fantasy VII that they did the bare minimum this time around with Rebirth’s graphics! The only hope now is a PC release!

Man I just am having a hard time agreeing with graphics mode being the mode to play here. I’ve played 4 hours and it’s just hard to focus on the world when the camera feels like it’s a blur when turning. It’s literally tiring my eyes

I’m having fun with the game, but damn, FF7 R suffers from the worst pop-in/lowest lod I’ve seen in a while. It’s pretty distracting at times, even in QM.

yeah im gonna wait a month before buying this. the performance in both modes sucks

What’s the likelihood this will be fixed with a future patch?

Performance mode looks fine and runs great. Sorry you guys are that big of cry babies. Im off to play.

While im used to 60fps or higher i have no problem with the 30fps graphics mode because i didnt expect anything else. Ff16’s performance mode was doodoo aswell

Don’t know why there’s so much positive rage for this game while FF16 was comparatively underhyped and looked down upon. It’s story and characters were far superior, and rhe graphics were astonishing in most areas of gameplay.

Every moment I spend in the game I see some wonderful, inspired content practically in the same frame as the cheapest, nose to the grind crunch work possible. It constantly feels like they had a awesome core team doing visionary work and then a much larger B team to fill in the rest. Also, it feels like they got a group of complete 100% amateurs for their compression team that were also on a blazing fast crunch.

lumen probably wouldn’t be a good idea for the next one. lumen is gimmicky and hella flawed. dark scenes will show ghosting and cloudiness artefacts. they should just do whatever they did with ff16

low res textures are the most annoying to me. i can accept the soft image with 60 fps but these textures sometimes look like n64 textures.

16 looks better for sure, hands down. But, 16 was mostly an annoying slog with sidelined female characters and a zero effort evil God behind the scenes manipulating everything and well, I could go on and on. Cid was good and I’m sorta much more neutral about Clive than most seem to be but, what an awfully disappointing game not to mention the watered down DMCV battle system.

7 by contrast, well, I’m a old fan. Aerith pops into view and says “hi” and I’m stoked. I could give an essay on all that I love about it but I’ll abstain. They’re nuts for not migrating to UE5 and while I’m sure it sped up development to just use the first game as a baseline to build this one, they’ll regret it while developing the next title–although they may even then elect to stay with the ancient tech and just publish technical abominations like Bethesda does.

I’ve come across a lot of not just low LOD distance but, straight up bugs with animations freezing in place and who object disappearing just a dozen steps away or so.

What’s insane is I would see flowers pop in after 2 seconds WHEN I’M STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. Not something out in the distance, something right in front of me. I’m not one to sweat on these things but something about this game when I play on either graphics or performance, my brains like “this looks like ass and I feel nauseas just looking at the screen”. Not even 5 seconds playing as Zach and I thought something was horribly wrong with the settings. I couldn’t fathom people were playing this and had zero issues with the way the game played and looked.

This game is going to be absolutely *PERFECT* on PC!! God, I so *look forward* to playing this game on my PC!!

besides the TAA blur, we’ve finally surpassed the Final Fantasy movie and cutscene CGI in real-time on a console and on PC it’ll be even more evident.

Blah balh balh, SE is bad Sony is bad, xbox is bad, epic game is bad and everything is bad. Ok granma.

Why no one mentioned this in their reviews?
The game performance is ass

Unfortunately when it comes to PC, I bet there won’t be many improvements to the lighting issues. Square Enix is known for their subpar ports with limited visual options.

Graphics mode the way to go unfortunately. Hopefully DLSS cleans this game up on pc for those who want high frame rates when it gets there

8:40 baffling how a “one armed person can climb like this…”! Meanwhile, the red wolf is 2-front leg climbing next to him…..😏🤣

FF7 Remake 2: Sporefoken Returns

I’ll admit the performance mode doesn’t look the best. But it runs good and that’s the main thing I wanted from it.

Just like every other final fantasy game there are inexcusable visulal flaws everywhere that are impossible to ignore and it takes you out of it for a minute. Why cant square ever finish a game properly before putting it out. And aside from purely visual the npcs look mentally disabled have the time. Like if one has a broom they will stand in one spot with a dumb look on their face. There is no excuse for the flaws in thes games

I have to agree with the lighting and shadow is not up to standard. But i guess there would be cut corners considering the world is quite large.

2:36 you’re welcome, lads

I wish we could compare this to the halo open world release that hit 60fps and had a 120 fbs mode……. and how they absolutely tore it to shreds. even though it looks amazing….

Final Fantasy: Regret

Shame…game still slaps dough!😂

Prioritising cutscenes instead of gameplay. Fml

Never played any of these games. I just know these games have been remade like 1000 times.

I love these videos bc I genuinely appreciate the dedication to keeping publishers/devs accountable for the quality of their games. I love getting riled up like “WOW how could they cut that from the trailer,” and then immediately remember that I would not ever in a million years mention this in front of a hot girl

It’s so weird and disappointing how it looks better sometimes, but also worse a lot of the time compared to Remake.

Loving the game, but this has got to be the most offensive ghosting in any game I have ever played. The amount of it in the combat simulator is insane. There is also something weird going on with the Graphics Mode. When you pan the camera it is so jittery and you lose all detail in the environments.

I don’t quite understand when nearest-neighbor upscaling to 4K went from something people are willing to spend $750 on to being a questionable decision for a game’s developer to make.

The performance mode may look underwhelming, but at least it does its job and actually performs at 60fps for the majority of the game! *looking at you FF16*

Its bizarre how bad it looks at times… baffling really. Great game though

Again for some reason this review is also incredibly forgiving. Just do a side by side comparison with Phantom Liberty in terms of environment assets, NPC, animation and interactivity and Rebirth would look absolutely like a last gen game.

This looks EMBARRASSINGLY bad. Especially the lighting, jeez

I’m glad I wasnt the only one to notice the pretty rough lighting. Definitely the greatest thing that stands out. Not sure what happened ….

Performance mode is atrocious. Its worse than ff16 which was unacceptable in of itself. This is why we need pc and xbox day and date. Nobody wants to play this on ps5, they have no other choice.

Thanks for the video! I’m waiting for the PC release. I still don’t have a ps5 and no way im paying $70 to run a game in semi-4k 30fps. Its 2024 and brand new games struggle to run 30fps 😂🤡

I tried at 1080p and found performance is exactly the same. What a shit show

Why is it so hard this far into the cycle to get locked 4k 30 or 1440 60? The console is capable.

where are now those who praised and kissed the ass of those from sony when they announced ps5 that it does 4k,.8k and other aberrations.

What bothers me the most is when the lighting goes off (no shadows) and character models look like something from PS3 era.
Just check when Cloud/Sephiroth do their synergy ability in the prologue. It’s jarring when Remake character models were always gorgeous no matter what happens on screen.
Also nobody’s gonna mention the weird pop in in the open environments? (bushes disappearing, etc).

John should’ve got this video, I think he would’ve done a better job and go over the history.

I think this game suffers too much from the T rating.

Surprised they used UE4 not trying to compare apples to oranges here but even palworld used UE5 over unity when they realized everything they wanted to do wouldn’t work well on unity.

How did the lighting get worse? Like how dose a dev look at the difference between this and the baked and chose to get rid of all the baked lighting

Cloud’s hair looks greasy in Rebirth.

FF16 not a fair comparison since that game was basically one big cutscene. Nowhere NEAR the depth of FF7 Rebirth.

This would be impressive for a ps3 launch title…

It’s the inconsistency that’s so jarring, I don’t care that much about hi-res textures and good lighting in a game but don’t give me half and half, it sticks out like a sore thumb. A consistent style and quality is more impressive and immersive.

@08:35 While not 1-Armed, I’ve seen a female Competitive Speed Climber scale one of those Walls _barely_ slower than I could close the same distance of level Ground at a very brisk pace.
I’ve also seen Climbers occasionally just hanging off a ledge with only one arm to – _I assume_ – get blood back onto the other soo yea… I don’t think Barret doing all of that 1-Armed is super unrealistic.

Still waiting for the 4K-120 FPS experience of consoles! /s

Console gaming is a scam, and it’s holding back the game industry.

Yea I’d rather not play this crap on PS5 and wait for an unoptimized mess on PC 😂

df actively deleting comments. a new low. even lower than the resolution on this garbage project

Didn’t they announce they wanted to do this game in Unreal 5? How come they went back to unreal 4 again?

FFXVI was incredibl dull looking, artisticly mediocre and technically dubious game. what are you talking about that it was one of the best in these areas….

10:37. You should’ve tried 1080p as well depending on your TV upscaler

soon …. pc

The softness doesn’t really bother me while playing at a distance from my TV, but the lighting issues are very noticeable. Luckily the game is engaging enough that I don’t really think about it that much, but when taking the time to sightsee and look around it kind of sticks out sometimes. Hopefully these were performance related decisions, and when the game finally comes for PC the lighting will be enhanced.

My current gaming TV is temporarily an old VT25 plasma TV and perf mode actually looks… fine? Like obv 1080 is missing some fidelity but it’s not blurry like it is when I put it on my other screens. Turned the sharpening up to 25/100 and it looks good. I have to wonder if they’re using some subpar scaling technique. Like without stuff like DLSS even missing 100p looks blurry on fixed pixel displays. So I wonder if they even have any real scaler going on at all.

The worst part is definitely the subpar / lack / missing AO on many objects. They look completely ungrounded and finished… It’s so strange because it feels like this has been a fixed problem since like the PS4 gen. I’m not sure why we’re still having this come up in 2024.

First game I choose 30 frames because 60 looks terrible.

Hey DF, you guys still afraid of beautiful women? 🙂

Amazing game no doubt it! But i dont see a reason why a ps4 cant run this with some compromises… Or maibe im wrong… anyway good job to square enix.

The game itself is freaking amazing and is so far my favorite FF since FF9 came out 24 years ago. I don’t mind the visuals not being always top notch, but I really wish Square Enix would have a good performance mode to save their lives. I’ve had to get used to 30 fps again for ff16 and this game and it’s jarring. And I don’t want to wait for the PC version (I wish it was day and date since it is a 2024 third party game after all). Of course the PC version will bring in compilation stutters unfortunately.

Could you guys try the performance mode on a 1080p monitor or tv? A lot of us are still playing on 1080p gaming monitors which I imagine is what the performance mode is targeting.

Nowhere close to horizon forbidden west, though it is not surprising. Final Fantasy hasn’t seen an innovation in decades.

Funny how media is trying so forced to save square.
Game looks horrible. Forget about cut scenes, we need to talk about gameplay.
On gameplay more than 50% of this game looks more to a PS3 game than a PS5. And it´s far away to be good as remake.
It´s a 1080p dynamic resolution with low texture, horrible ilumination most of the time, horrible shadow, horrible reflections, DOF, agressive motion blur, a little of chromatic aberration and to complete a film grain.

And this game problem is far from the graphic. It´s what square change from original like Disney trying to do a star wars trilogy.

So far I’m loving the game but yea, the image is noticeably soft
I’ve relatively acclimated to it however. Wont catch me swapping to quality though. That shit felt slow mo

I’m surprised. Square Enix must have invested as much as possible for this project and the result is this… Compared to the similar expansion of God of War Ragnarok (PS4 game!), it’s very disappointing.

Theres so much ghosting you might as well call it a horror game.

4:30 Nah..Look at the bottom of the wheels on that segway. the lighting is just killed by the TAA ghosting to a level so far it goes beyond the viewpoint with over 3 layers of seperate ghosting at different update rates. They gotta fix that up…. I’d rather play with FXAA over this and that’s saying a lot. FSR 3.0 looks less ghosty to me. Gee if it’s stuck like this? its gonna be a long wait for the PC port.

They need to work with the decima engine

This looks abysmal, nothing about this feels next gen, horizon forbidden west looks 3 times as good as this, low res textures bad ghosting and blurry in both modes. Huge pass until it’s £10

I like the character models but the overall graphics is a big disappointment

FFXVI: better Graphics, worse FF
FFVIIRB: Worse Graphics, better game and an actual FF

i ll take Rebirth over XVI in a heartbeat

2:37: “your relationship with tifa has changed”….well. what relationship would not change after that!?

Performance mode looks like crap. Oh well, I only use Graphics mode anyway.

Insanely bad release technically

It’s a shame that the developers didn’t have time to upgrade to UE5.
According to the words of Naoki Hamaguchi who is the director of Rebirth, they felt that UE5 was still incomplete and that they would have wasted time in the transition.
And so this winning time was used to create custom tools to boost UE4 to be able to realize the vision of the game.

These kinds of decisions are usually made because developers are short on time and since they had already used UE4 for Remake, they were already used to this game engine.

Fingers crossed that the last episode of this trilogy will be developed with UE5🤞.

oh no! game with beautiful girls! this is so unrealistic!!! XD

So wave race on the n64 from donkeys years ago has much better water simulation. Got it. Also the performance mode looks like garbage. Yea I think I’ll wait a year for this one.

12:15 Stop pulling punches. This looks horrible and unexcusable. It’s not “a bit”

I’m supper tempted to play it right now but will hold with hope for performance mode update or 40 FPS VRR mode addition

Playing FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH doesn’t feel like I’m playing a video game. It’s so technically feature-film level amazing, that it seems unfair for Digital Foundry to review it at all. It’s that good. That’s the highest praise one could possibly give it.

Imagine playing at 30fps in 2024

Why do I as a pc owner do i have to wait for the proper version. Consoles are holding gaming back

This is a last gen game terribly optimized and put on current gen console.

Great Tech Review as always. One Small Request if I may, I would really appreciate it if you could incorporate audio more into the reviews again. Especially since the PS5 updated to use Dolby Atmos. In FF16’s Case it feels a lot like the Dolby Atmos Implementation is weird and lackluster or even downright buggy and it feels like FF7 Rebirth follows the same fate on my short test yesterday and I would like a professional opinion from you!

I wonder if its so blurry because it was going to be on ps4 at one point? It doesn’t actuality bother me tho. But im sure fans would welcome a ps5 Pro patch if the ps5 Pro is a thing.

wating for the pc version

Looks like FSR with the ghosting but I am wrong

At this rate , FF7 part 3 will look like a PS1 era game

😓 No thanks! I’ll wait for the PS5 Pro. To all the Pro console / mid-gen refresh haters, remember you don’t have to buy the PS5 Pro! If this type of quality is acceptable to you, enjoy…

No 40 fps mode, no upscaling, ghosting, low textures?

Let’s hope the eventual PC release will improve on most of these lighting and shadow issues.

It could look gorgeous… on a computer 🙂

“Near CGI level”

Game looks just pathetic at times. What a disappointment.

I’ll be honest, I’ve been so hyped for this game and I love Remake, and so far Rebirth is good as a game, but the visuals are so distracting to me so far. Graphics mode at 30FPS just gives me a headache, and performance modes textures are just a muddy mess. Maybe I’m too spoiled from playing max settings for games on my PC all the time including Remake and Reunion and recently RDR2 with its open world. I had to start playing on the TV because it was near unplayable so I went to a 1440 32 in monitor but that isnt great either so going to try my 1440 27in and hopefully that is better

I actually think the original models looks better, more realistic is not always better looking.
But yeah I like it being more open ended this time.

worst shit always😄

I didn’t bought PS5 and 4K TV for playing 30 FPS, FFS. That stupid quality mode in both FF16 and FF7 RB, is make me feel sick every time I play.

16 had horrible environment textures in graphics mode. Olivier is definitely blind

Performance mode is just too blurry

it more realistic but the hyperrealistic look of intergrade looks better to me

This is the same hardware that runs stuff like jedi survivor… forbidden west at 60 …. someone tell the devs its 2024…. same happened with 16 the jokers

I’ve been playing for like 8 hours and once your eyes adjust to the performance mode it looks completely fine

Unreal Engine saves another game.

I’ll wait until they patch performance mode.

The collision with bushes, branches & so on has no effect, really annoyed me.

Hey digital foundry have you ever noticed in new farcry 3 classic edition PS5 version grass shadow is missing rather than on xbox series x just like gta 5 car shadow have you guys noticed that or not but it is missing on PS5 version

unreal engine 4 has never really been great with big open areas they should of switched to unreal 5 but suppose its cheaper for them to just cut copy n paste assets and use same code

As someone who still uses a 1080p monitor, and is putting off playing some titles till I have a 1440p, I’m actually thankful for my predicament lol. When I get round to playing Rebirth, I expect performance mode will look relatively okay on my 1080p monitor.

It seems like they made a lot of compromises to get it to run smoother on the PS5. It will be interesting to see the PC version when it gets released (or a PS5 pro/6 version)

14:50 they “solved” the problem by making the game running at 720p and adding TAA with FSR. blurry mess

Graphic mode the Zac 1st battle is lag😢

Wondering if there’s gonna be an intergrade-style version in a year or so. I think I may just wait for the PC version…

Game looks like shit on performance. Very disappointed

I didnt like the first remake..and im a hardcore ff7 fan..been playing since 1990 when ff 1 came out

“Rebirth’s cut scenes are some of the most visually captivating sequences I’ve seen to date…” Amusing timing following the cut scene that just showed off Tifa’s massive jugs.

Probably going to be a mess of a PC port too, just like the first game. But I’d still prefer brute forcing it with high end hardware than playing this PS5 version… wish it came out on PC, bad port be damned.

This guy is sooo dry to listen to. Seriously needs a girlfriend.

Thanks for the review. I’m wondering if they can use FF16 in-house engine for the third part.

They haven’t learned anything since FF16. That game still looks blurry AF, terrible fps in both modes to this day. I don’t expect much will improve with this game’s performance either. SE is showing their ass as a studio not able to get with the times and provide a truly premium performance experience like other Sony blockbusters GOW or HFW. If those games can pull off smooth performances with top tier graphical fidelity I don’t understand why SE can’t. It’s a shame, but I’ll pick this up when it hits bargain bin status.

No foliage movement when passing thru is such game mode off idk 🤷🏻‍♂️ not saying I won’t play it but I hope they add the feature make little realistic

Guess if we want a truly polished experience we gotta wait for New FF7 Rebirth Intergrade Featuring Dante From The Devil May Cry Series XL & Knuckles on the PS6…

Camera Motion blur needs to be added as optional toggle. Graphics mode at 4K 30fps without camera motion blur is making me extremely dizzy to the point it’s becoming an accessibility issue.
Started the game not too long ago. Currently at Nibelheim and decided to put the game down for now. Already tagged Square/VII socials about this.

And before anyone suggests Performance mode, it’s not my ideal way of playing, especially when the fidelity reduction is too noticeable on my large display. Please be respectful of my comment as people have already insulted me just because of my preference. I respect others, otherwise.

This game needs to release on PC with every RT tech under the sun. This game is hungry as hell for them.

Hopefully the PC version doesn’t take forever to arrive.

Oliver: Talking about visual strengths from the changes of characters from Intergrade to Rebirth
Me: Hmm yess very nice
2:36 pops up
Me: VERY NICE

I will use performance mode. Its good enough. Devs just have to design for 60fps first and platforms should enforce it at this point.

trying to enjoy the game the best i can, i love FF7 but it runs so poorly on PS5. why couldnt they just release on PC. its such a shame

Is the ps5 underpowered or is square just outright bad at optimizing?

“graphics dont matter” and “we want 60 fps no matter the sacrifice”.
well im not really surprised people are complaining because the game had to sacrifice visual fidelity to achieve the fps.

They better not mess Tifa up for “modern audiences”

I’m a huge FF7 fan, and I loved remake, but Rebirth is unplayable to me. 🙁

I saw this blurry image in the demo and was told again and again it’s a pre build. Clearly that was a lie. It’s incredibly frustrating, given this is my Fav game of all time. Never mind.

Dear game devs,
Please stop using TAA it is literally garbage. Do you not have eyes?

I think it’s the most telling that John isn’t doing this when he usually does all the FF games—just knew at first glance it’s an UE mess and let Oliver do it (who’s great at it also)

Looks amazing in spots looks worse than the last sometimes

This game looks so awful it’s unacceptable. The audio mix is also pretty terrible. This generation feels lazy and cash grabby. 😔

Is anybody else getting signal drops when scenes change? It’s like it’s having to drop the input signal in order to render the beginning of a cutscene from gameplay. Any thoughts?

I have played an hour and 30 minutes of the game and it’s amazing, wish I could play more but it’s a work week the game is a must buy for any fan of the series.

1152p for 60fps LOL Yeah I’ll just wait to experience this native 4k 60fps like I have with the original on PC.

I’ll wait for p c version, but I hope they don’t make a shitty port

They Stayed faithful to the Original with pixelated graphics

As in FF16, big minus of FF7 rebirth – there is no option to turn off damage count.. Hate this counts in all games, but most games give you a option to turn off. Even FF15 you can turn off.

I know we’re literally watching DF doing a technical breakdown so of course most people here are that picky but man it’s incredible seeing so many people be so hateful towards the game and consoles because performance mode doesn’t look as well as it should be. It has to improve, but it’s also not that big of a deal as the game still looks amazing.

The problem with DF is that they only focus on the technical aspect of the game. I don’t really care about the broader scope of Rebirth. I just want a complete FFVII game to play, not this piecemeal releases.

fuck unreal engine

Game is held back due to being open world honestly, they could’ve taken that time to polish the game..like the original.

Tifa in a bikini, can’t click buy fast enough!

People saying we need a PS5 Pro to fix this… no we just need a crap load of optimization patches

I don’t care. This game is a masterpiece

I want to play this but i want them to fix it first

🙁

I think they added ray tracing, causing the textures and overall game resolution to decrease. Ray tracing doesn’t seem to suit console platforms.

I’m still in chapter 1 and this game seems to run and look pretty bad.

Something is wrong with 30fps in this game. When you pan the camera everything disappears into a smear and the camera is choppy as hell.

Final Fantasy XVI looks better and more cohesive. I understand it’s more limited and linear in scope, but it’s actually a direction I prefer for FF.

Imagine if this is made on the newly improved Decima engine, it would be the best looking game of 2024.

I will no longer get hyped with new hardware developers just don’t know how to use it. Super Sampling on PS4 Pro looks miles better then what they use now

Does anyone know the renderer

Remake graphics looks alot sharper

I’ll do the same with Remake, wait for the eventual PC version.

This game is absolutely horrendous, just from the demo the combat is the worst I have ever seen in a game, enemies are all broken and have super armor, while the player character can be stunlocked by every single attack, enemies will CONSTANTLY do off screen attacks and nothing is telegraphed right. This game has EVERYTHING I despise in action games. The original is 10000000x better than this slop. Its like square enix doubled down on everything that make the combat garbage in the first part. Whoever made this game should be ashamed.

The PS3 textures are unforgivable

FF16 DLC in April can’t come soon enough

The fact that arkham knight on ps4 looks better and sharper is not good.

I feel like modern graphics are getting very ‘missing the forest for the trees.’ Super crazy amounts of tiny details, but overall readability, clarity, draw distance, etc. are clearly suffering.

I just with they let us play the game locked in native 1080p without any of this shit upscaling.

4:30 Yikes! What’s up with that ghosting behind the Segway??

Omg Tifa is so busty 😍

“There’s a lot of nice incidental details in Rebirth’s open world segments” he says, as a deer disappears into the wind before his eyes.

This game has not aged well.

Waiting for Steam version to play at 1440p 120fps like FF7R.

With the PC version of remake I found that I needed at least 90fps after I have turned up the camera sensitivity for it to not look laggy (I leave my frame cap at 120). IDK why the devs always aim for either (30fps)4k or performance. An option for balanced graphics(1440p) while targeting a higher framerate would be a much better experience.

Can’t wait for the PC version cause mods will right all the wrongs

Some of the lighting straight up looks like ps3 era 😂

40% ???? Bruh that shit is spoiler modes Jfc.

I love the game so far, while the lighting and the shadows I probably couldn’t care less. But my god, the Textures, the Resolution in performance and the Ghosting are fucking insanely awful.

Like I’m playing on resolution mode and still have probably the worst ghosting I have ever seen on a game and it’s really distracting.

Think I’ll wait and see if Square makes a patch. Performance mode looks too blurry to me atm.

Making water worse than fallout new vegas in 2024 is a offense to computer graphics at this point

Betting they have PS5 Pro in mind that solves lighting, shadow, reflection, and framerate.

Somehow this game makes me dizzy like none other..

Good god that capcom didn’t make RE2: 2 – Claire Campaign or RE4: 2 – The Castle, they just release the full game at once

Something about Oliver’s voice is incredibly calming, his whole vibe in general brings chill lol

Playing at 30 fps is absolutely awful, so it’s a big no, and the performance mode can’t hold 60 fps. Hard pass.

man i was trying to finish remake on pc for the first time before rebirth came out and holy hell its dissapointing how blurry rebirth looks. i wasnt expecting 4k 120 fps like pc but sheehs the imagine quality/ motion clarity honestly looks kinda bad to me outside of the cutscenes

Please put icon/symbols on materia next installment so you can identify any materia at a glance when in the menu.

Eg, lightning symbol on lightning materia.

This will make for easier, faster materia management and equipping.

How come a game like horizon Fw looks so much detailed with high fidelity textures , detailed shadows realistic facial expressions. Whereas this game… still far from horizon or some other games

I went to Ps5 version of Witcher 3 because I thought I was having trouble with my eyes…. Witcher 3 obtains a much better and clearer image targeting 60fps. I’ll be back to ff7 rebirth when they fix this stuff. So disappointed

Is it possible that in a years time they’ll release a “definitive” edition with a DLC that come with “improved graphics and performance” on the ps5??? This is probably more conspiracy than guess but I wouldn’t be surprised:(

Correct solution: Buy PS5 pro

I really find the camera judder in quality mode to be an absolute deal breaker. Think I’ll just suck up performance modes blurry visuals

2:36 Thank you DF 😘

Longer this generation goes on, the less impressive games have become in image quality. You want 60 FPS, low resolution, low effects, blurry visuals. You want pretty graphics? 30 FPS (High resolution 30 is my preferred choice over 60 low resolution) at either 1440P (Won’t buy) or 4K.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the PS5 version was deliberately nerfed to make the inevitable Pro version more appealing later this year for another spate of sales for those upgrading
Who else is going to wait for the FF7 Rebirth Remastered version for PS5 Pro later this year for $70?
Sony for the Payer’s !!😂😂😂

That FF16 comparison really highlights how inconsistent and downright poor the visuals in this game are. And I initially didn’t even think FF16 was a “great” looking game.

trash

you are not distracted by tifas booooobs? no? not like stellar blade?

Did you guys remember to take your Polygonal this morning?

I bet Alex had some hate for how beautiful Tifa is!
He hates seeing beautiful women in games. It’s hilarious.

Shame how the character art in this game is league above its contemporaries but the environment art looks substantially worse than a student’s demo reel project.

it’s sad that they didn’t try to upgrade to UE5. I feel like the new technologies could have helped with many of the downfalls we currently see here. I understand that they might have heavily modified the engine and that’s why they can’t simply do that, but especially if you’re targeting PS5 and later maybe also higher end PCs this should be one of the first thoughts.
I’m kinda exhausted from japanese companies overly relying on the old trusty ways of doing things because they “still work good enough” instead of really pushing to get better results. There have been better looking games a long time ago and this is just coming out right now.

God I cannot wait. Shame that you just know the trilogy won’t finish on PS5. It will probably be a PS6 launch title…

wish they would have kept it turn based, or at least added the option to do so

Yet another game I won’t play until PS5 Pro.

As someone who just replayed FFVII Remake Intergrade this week in anticipation in performance mode, the visuals of Rebirth’s performance mode are so disappointing. I always play games in performance as I’m used to 60fps on my PC and most try for 1440p so they are still pretty sharp. And I don’t mind stepping down most the time of resolution a bit to get the frame rate. But on my 65” 4K OLED, the performance mode in Rebirth is on the verge of unplayable. The clarity is so bad in the open world sections. 1152p is so bad on a big high resolution TV. If it ran at 1440p like most, it’d be fine, but the resolution is too bad and distracting in Rebirth. I hope they can/do fix.

Whats the point of making the game exclusive to PS5 if they drop it looking like shit. I was so excited but when I put the gake in and started it I noticed it immediately. The Quality mode is unplayable on my OLED and the performance mode looks bad. Im going to try and enjoy the game but the fidelity issues are glaring.

I guess we wait until the FF7 Rebirth Intergrade edition that comes out for PC later that fixes most of this stuff. Lol Seeing how the end of May this timed exclusivity ends and may get announcement about it releasing for other platforms later. I’ll pass on getting the PS5 version then and let mine still be the useless paperweight that it is that I’ve played like 7 times in the past 3 years.

What about performance mode on a 1080p display, say a 24″ gaming monitor?

The original Remake looked fantastic when it came out, but after playing Cyberpunk with path tracing recently, I’ve become too spoiled. The character models look great, but it’s hard to be impressed with these environments and their old lighting tech.

how is it possible the remake intergrade has better graphics?? i never noticed anything when i played the remake but with this i constantly ask myself is this really a 70 dollar game??

Yet another PS4-looking PS5 EXCLUSIVE game!

4 YEARS into this gen, people!

Could they have lowered things to keep load times and asset streaming low?

Here’s hoping the PC release has GI and shadow improvements/options

Great thoughts and great video. However, I think the comparison to FF16 is a bit unfair. FF16 had better lighting and traversal animation, but it was a wildly inconsistent game when it came to the quality of the assets and animation. So far, Rebirth is a more consistent visual package IMHO.

I’m convinced that FF16 is just in a league of its own. (And no, it’s nothing like DMC. Just heavily misunderstood, and overhated. Very Underrated hidden Gem.)