What’s your favourite Eikon?

Bruh to me Odin was one of the most underwhelming Eikons in the game precisely because of it’s low health and stagger damage to me that power shouldve been given at the beginning of the game

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why is your perfect dodge kinda flamy?

I am sorry but i think that you are not a pro in this game. U have turned down some of the best skills in an instant.

shiva being last and titan being second is wild

Fun fact about wings of light, you can trigger it as a perfect dodge and then cancel and itll keep your megaflare charge, so you can just use it to do 4 perfect dodges and then trigger megaflare if you don’t want to fly around to charge it. You can also use satellite to shoot magic while flying

Ya I’m different i don’t care about coming combos

After watching this video im going to guess that you were not very good at this game. Some of the things you said blew my mind…shiva being last, lightning rod being a bad skill and putting odin at number 1. There was more but those were the big things that had me vexed.

Odin is worthless if you don’t fill the gauge to 5 before the boss fight as it deals stupid low damage and before you charge it to lvl 5 on a boss fight you would already deal like half its HP instead.

Wicked Wheel is the best ability in the game. It has a small cooldown, deals massive stagger dmg, keeps you in the air, plus its launching smaller enemies. Rift slip is also one of the most broken abilities, because it allows you to animation cancel ANY ability, its extremely versitale you can use any situation, and it also extends the stagger time without wasting you ultimates.

You forgot Ultima

This is so bad 😂

Heatwave is invaluable and incredibly powerful against enemies that use projectiles. Feel like you kind of just skipped over that.

The timing on Rook’s Gambit is so NOT hard to trigger. This is a skill issue

Shiva’s all about quality not quantity.
Cold-snap is not a mere dodge, pressing the button again mid dodge will spawn a crystal that will freeze any enemy that comes close to it for two seconds and if you execute a perfect dodge an AoE ability called permafrost will trigger that will freeze on a larger radius and extended duration.
Also Diamond dust is not _just ok_ is the best stagger damage ability in the game and the fact it’s an AoE makes it beyond broken.
With those two skills you melt stagger bars and paired with Odin builds the Zan gauge extremely fast.

Personally I would put Geruda before phoenix in your list but that’s just my opinion. ✌️ Loved the video tho and subscribed 👌

10:16 what is that song?

Shiva imo is one of the best Eikons

1.Odin
2.Titan
3.Shiva
4.Bahamut
5.Feniks
6.Ramuh
7.Garuda

i know im 10 months late to this and opinions are opinions but shiva in last place is wild when you can literally freeze any enemy in the game with cold snap’s precision dodge and make them completely helpless for 6 seconds or more on no cooldown + diamond dust has the highest stagger damage in the game iirc or at least close to it.

Shiva last is nuts what?!

Garuda is much more useful for mw because it deals with stagger damage

Here’s something that might change your opinion on Satellite: It works even while you’re charging Megaflare. If you mash the magic button while in Wings of Light, the satellites will still fire.

Rift slip doesn’t explain itself. It’s an animation cancel. That can help speed things up if the damage from an ability has already been dealt, but it also gives you 2 seconds of slowed time to think what to do next and chain. I’ll give you an example. Cold snap when timed perfectly causes permafrost, but it takes more than two seconds to get to the enemy with a standard attack while they are still frozen. Not with rift slip. Also, some attacks like flare breath you can end early, but not instantaneously. You can with slip and get that slowed time as a bonus. It also makes parrying easier.

You CAN use it for bosses, but it’s better for groups. Gotta use the training dimension to figure the slip out.

Soooo no one noticed he didn’t mention Leviathan ?

Imo.

8. Garuda
I like Rooks Gambit and Deadly Embrace but I don’t see myself using the rest of her kit.

7. Ifrit
Ignition and WOW were amazing early game but I outgrew it when I mastered Flames of Rebirth and dodging.

6. Phoenix
Flames of Rebirth and Heatwave are my favourites. The AOE dmg and Counterattack of Heatwave is satisfying when it hits.

5. Bahamut
Gigaflare + Lightning Rod. Impulse is decent and satellite I see can be used while charging megaflare so thats cool

4. Ramuh
His Blind Justice is ass yes. But I love the rest of his kit. Pile Drive deals dmg and decent stagger. Thunderstorm feels like it deals more than the ultimate. LR and Judgement Bolt are 2 amazing moves for bosses.

3. Titan.
At first I thought he was the best bcoz he dealt extreme dmg on all his moves. But once I got everyone and used different eikons I didn’t use his abilities as much as when I got him. Still thought he was cool

2. Odin
His whole kit being built around Zantetsuken is cool but they deal nothing even to mobs lmao but Zan is OP and badass and I always had him in my builds bcoz he makes me Vergil 2.0

1. Shiva
Why she is last on your list Im curious but imo she’s broken. Cold snap freezes enemies and stagger bars when they are staggered and Diamond dust not only deals more than 50% will dmg but can build up your stagger multiplier instantly to 1.50-1.70. Comboed with rift slip any boss that doesn’t have phases can be an insta kill if you choose to.

Honorable Mention
Leviathan upcoming abilities

Serpents Cry (eikonic feat)
Cross Swell
Deluge (Stagger dmg)
Abyssal Tear (Charges a Vent Gauge)
Tsunami (AoE)

u can get any counter off by using the easy mode cheat ring

Arm of darkness is best feat on level 5

Also with Bahamut, if you use Satellite and then wings of light you can still do damage while charging megaflare

I’m surprised that you said the counter abilities were hard to time! They seem to have at least as large if not significantly larger windows than executing a precision dodge.

Like Garuda’s and Titan’s will go off if you activate them even remotely near when an attack is incoming.

Cold snap also freezes the stagger bar once an enemy is staggered. It’s absolutely god-tier on that alone, you can string combos so that the bar only starts refilling in a dancing steel wind-up.

rift slip is negative? bro if you pair it with cold snap you literally break the entire game

Shiva last? Instant downvote. This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.

Nice

I love that they replace summoning with this new powers makes me hope they make another game like this cause I love games that give you different sets of powers

worst to best
garuda
pheonix
ifrit
ramuh
bahamut
shiva
titan
odin

i know how busted gigaflare is but i ranked it overall

My endgame build was Odin + Shiva + Bahamut feats. I like big numbers in RPGs, so whenever an enemy is about to get staggered I charge Bahamut’s feat and when maxed, I just release, stagger the enemy and start with a very specific round of eikonic abilities (Odin’s feat has to be already charged which allows me to use it’s level 5 twice), which is:
First, I use Shiva’s ult to instantly charge that juicy 1.5x, it usually works instantly or at least it gets you to 1.4x, so now I’m free to instantly use lighting rod + gigaflare, then Odin’s lvl5 feat, followed by Dancing Steel, then Ramuh’s ult and in between all of these I throw Rift Slip with a few hits from Odin’s blade to charge it again to max level and throw again in the end. Never finished Final Fantasy mode, but it this cycle totally destroyed every enemy I faced in first playthrough endgame and first half of Final Fantasy mode (that’s when I stopped playin cause I had more games unfinished)
Shiva being last is an absolute crime, her feat os the best one to buy free seconds of damage and dodge tricky attacks, and her ult builds stagger very quickly, and also builds the multiplier instantly. Odin being first was predictable though, his ult finishes all minor encounters and deals big damage to major enemies, saving lots of time. Titan was very useful to me on first playthrough, but once I had enough points to master abilities and choose freely, I realized there were better damage and staggering options, so I stopped using Titan, but Raging fists and Windup are crazy, and they have short cooldowns, they’re very powerful but the ones I mentioned are just superior in terms of damage (also raging fists cant be fully used in stagger since you can’t trigger counterattacks)

Thunderstorm over lightening rod is crazy

Of course he says that my favorite eikon is the worst 😂😂

Bruh….shiva is the best summon

One of my biggest pet peeves with geruda is the fact her circle ability would be SOOOO much better if it allowed you to close in on larger enemies like pull u in towards them rather then pop u up in the air ngl once I got the earth eikon I dropped her for the rest of the game 😭

My tier list
1.phoenix
2.shiva
3.titan
4.oden
5.bahemut
6.ramuh
7.ifrit
8.geruda

Based off ability’s

Am I the only one bothered that he he didn’t upgrade limit break?

For me I live using Will o’ wykes with Dancing Steel, makes dealing withvtrash so easy.

Honestly I’d put Ramuh lower and Phoenix and Garuda higher. Phoenix Shift is pretty much the best way of getting to airborne enemies and easily sets up for an aerial combo or Downthrust, while Garuda’s Deadly Embrace synchronises amazingly with Wicked Wheel (which also sets up for downthrust, mind, and at the height it leaves you at is just high enough for the AoE to trigger) and Aerial Blast. Meanwhile, Ramuh’s not great so far, Blind Justice doesn’t do nearly enough damage to justify the time it takes to lock on abd it does just break up the combo. His other moves are good, Thunderstorm is fun and Pile Drive is a really good aoe, but I can just master them and equip them onto other Eikons, and I can’t replace the circle move. Its why I’d also dock Titan a stage or two, I love his other skills but i just haven’t found myself using Titanic Block too much. Although it is good when i have used it, and the follow-ups certainly hit hard enough. Can’t dock it too many points though, Windup and Upheaval do obscene damage when timed well.

Garuda is def worst

My tier list

Ifrit
Shiva
Odin
Garuda
Phoenix
Ramuh
Bahamut
Titan.

The dude started with Cold Snap isn’t good.

I believe a system need to be created just like horizon forbidden west where you decide on which tools but instead I can decide on which eikon to use…using 3 eikons at a time I feel is just limited

Shiva is one of the best ones….the amount of stagger from diamond dust is incredible.

Shiva being the worse is craaaaaaaaaaazy. Cold snap and Diamond dust alone are busted

You were clearly using Shiva wrong because you didn’t even mention permafrost. It’s so good

Shiva last???? Wtf

This is really interesting, it feels like my playstyle was differant but similar in ways. I had Odin, Bahamut and Shiva with as many skills which remained on the battlefield as possible (e.g. will of the wisps, aireal blast, that shova icicle thing etc) and just working on stun until i can apply all forms of damage as possible at once

Idk about odin being number one since the only thing strong on tht eikon is the 5 stack charge attack everything else is pretty shit the dmg isn’t there the dmg from a full combo swing from odin blade is a equivalent to 2 regular blade swings dmg besides tht the only thing useful is tht 5 stack but thats just my opinion

I honestly used Titan, Bahamut, and Ramha. Ramha for a quick pile drive and Bahamut impluse. Pairs greatly with Titans counter perry block ability.

I know this is subjective but Shiva last and Odin first? Lol no way Odin looks cool but has zero stagger ability any high level enemies will power through your moves in two seconds.

Cliven is like delsin from infamous second son. Everybody else has his own superpowers/magic distinct to them. What does he have? He can steal other people’s powers

I’ve tested some atacks and aparently thunderstorm does 8:45 more damage than judgement bolt I was testing all the attacks in the hall of virtue and either the numbers are wrong or yea windup does more then earthen fury and cooldown is lower so now I’m confused

This gotta be a troll right? Rift slip with shiva is so busted and lightening rod with gigaflare is stupid good. The ability cancel animation into another combo freeze and reset into another combo rift slip again I mean enemies don’t stand a chance.

I’ve never heard the word “heaps” used to often in a video. I love how he’s like “I didn’t use that heaps but I did use Upheaval a lot”…. Like why didn’t he say he used Upheaval heaps?

You’re using Lightning Rod wrong… If you drop lightning rod next to a staggered enemy and then use gigaflare you like double the damage. It’s amazing.

u dont rly understand the game 🙂 diamond dust and lightning rod are the best abilitys in the game bro :O

You’re doing this just to mess with us right

Garuda being above phoenix and ifrit is crazy to me ngl 😂 I feel like Garuda should be on the bottom instead of shiva tbh

I agree with this list 100%. How I set my Eikon up 1st: Odin w/ dancing steel, heaven’s cloud 2nd: Titan w/ raging fist, wind up 3rd: Phoenix w/ gigaflare, judgment bolt. I’m in NG+ (lvl 69) atm and I use Odin lvl 5 zantetsuken to clear trash mobs because a lot of them are sponges and it absolutely 1 shot 99.9% of all trash mobs. Titan I use as my main Eikon since I love countering enemies and Phoenix is whatever tbh, I use Phoenix dash for flying enemies lol. Whenever I stagger a boss lvl enemy I use the following combo: Judgement Bolt, gigaflare, heaven’s cloud, dancing steel, and finish off with zantetsuken. At my current lvl (69) that combo can deal just shy of 270k and if I still have time I follow up with wind up and add another 10-15k dmg. Sorry for the long read but this game is awesome.

This isn’t a very good list tbh, and I don’t think it comes from a place of understanding utility beyond “Big Damage Numbers”

Phoenix should be higher imo.

I watched this video before I got shiva. I had to come back and find this video just to tell you you should be ashamed of yourself. I know this is your opinion. And opinions are never wrong but my boy you got this one wrong. No way should shiva be last. I don’t have Odin yet so my top 3 are Bahamut SHIVA and Ramuh. Her ⭕️ command alone is enough to put her as top 3 outta the 8!!!

Shiva being below pheonix should be a federal crime

Satellite comes alive with channelers whisper. Regularly launch triple fully charged magic shots and watch enemies literally get launched off the top of screen. Its insane

I like the raging fist skills. I used the ring of timely focus to go muda muda muda easily

For someone who loves Gigaflare, you are SLEEPING HARD on lightning rod.

Cold Snap is amazing. I mainly use it to set up level 5 Zantetsuken. Diamond Dust upgraded not only slows down the stagger bar it immediately brings the stagger multiplier to 1.5x, allowing for a ton of damage.

In one stagger I’m able to use Diamond Dust, 2 level 5 Zantetsuken and a Gigaflare. Plus damage from Lightning Rod, Dancing Steel and Will of the Wykes.

Mesmerize is grossly overlooked. It does some pretty decent damage to the will gauge. It also pulls in enemies so for a little while (before Odin) I would pull in a group with mesmerize, use wicked wheel on all them, then finish with aerial upheaval. Not to mention how little cooldown both mesmerize and ice age have

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imo id rank first to last Shiva, Garuda, Titan, Phoenix, Ramuh, Odin, Ifrit, Bahamut. But I definitely ran Phoenix the whole game

Shiva being last is invalid af she’s probably has one of the best powers for stagger damage in diamond dust

Shiva diamond dust does the most stagger in the game…

Satellite and will of the Wilkes combo does insane stagger and the recharge is so quick!!

I think I’m the only person who likes blind justice. It’s my go to starter against large groups of small mobs. It will knockdown everything. Now that’s all it’s good for but the majority of the game is fighting groups of small mobs. I’d usually switch it out if I knew a boss is coming soon. Also Shiva is busted. Easy top 3.

You can readjust rime and lightning rod by using the ability again. Makes it much easier when enemies keep moving around.

Ramuh the best

Shiva has the best circle skill in the game. You’re vastly underestimating the strength and utility of cold snap. Try it with Odin and set up a zantetsuken for free. Freeze them then diamond dust(most stagger damaging ability) then Garuda pull them(aerial blast+diamond dust destroys stagger bars)

Shiva last? so you have no clue what you are talking about? Nice

I stopped watching when you said shiva was last.

You shouldve combined ifrit and phoenix, also garuda is the worst imo it gets powercrept by everything else when you get later on in the game rooks gambit is powercrept by titan’s main ability and raging fists, deadly embrace just felt like a worse phoenix shift, gouge and wicked wheel have meh dmg so if you want stagger just use diamond dust, aerial blast also gets outmatched by diamond dust and zantetsuken has better crowd control while doing massive dmg

There’s no such thing as broken on a single player game. Added it’s on players preference on how they play. Especially on a single player game.

Lmao this mf but Shiva last. This video’s 4 days old and it’s already outdated

The fact that you put rift slip as a negative shows you don’t know the game very well. It’s an ss tier ability that allows you to get 3 zantetsukens under the stagger window. Also shiva is ssss tier and allows you to do over 1.5 million damage when combined with rift slip to freeze the stagger bar in place.

Not even finishing this video. Shivas diamond dust is a top 3 ability. Drop it once a boss is staggered and you get combo multiplier to 1.5x. Also, the ability to freeze bosses with a dodge is absolutey nuts.

This is your opinion I think Garuda and titan abilities are ass straight tickle damage

Oh and one more thing the fact that you didn’t mention that diamond dust takes out basically half of the enemies stagger bar is wild.

Nah, your definitely not fully utilizing lightning rod that ability is super op and easily one of the best abilities it does a ton of stagger damage and combine it with other abilities like giga flair and your doing a lot of damage also this list horrible you’re clearly not fully utilizing a lot of these abilities that you claim are bad and not combining them with other abilities not to mention you pretty much dissed probably because you suck at the counter and next time fully read what the ability does because the fact that you don’t know that raging fist is best used as a counter is crazy also windup does a ton of damage when you release it on the red part of the bar.

How is clive able to absorb other eikon powers?

From what I got from the video and your explanation, you didn’t use raging fist from Titan right, did you? Did you know that Raging Fist is better used as a countermove? if you get hit by an enemy as Clive has the Titan arms up before he spins into the move you will counter the hit and the raging fist move set will change into a flurry of punches. I call them Jojo’s punches. That move melt the stager bar and also, if successfully used as a counter move it will reduce the ability cool down by 50%.

The second you mentioned Shiva being the worst… when “diamond dust” ultimate is by far one of the best skills to have for cracking stagger bar.I knew this video was going to be bad.
Then you ranked Phoenix as 2nd worst and you lost me lol. Its fine to be subjective in these lists but I feel like you are actually bordline misleading people who are less experienced with different Eikon powers in game and are watching this video to figure out which powers to upgrade and master.

Garuda is the worst out of the 7 Eikons … Also Ifirit’s Limit break is really good and not “never bothered to upgrade” …. this list is just bad and people should watch other videos lol

I feel like I must be crazy but I can’t seem to get much value out of Odin. Maybe it’s because I only have one of his abilities equipped but I just can’t build up the zantetsuken bar at any reasonable pace and I’m too attached to my other abilities to add a second Odin ability.

Wings of light is ass. Hate it lol. But I do love Gigaflare! It makes clive feel intensely powerful. My most used eikons are probably Phoenix and Garuda. Speed and stagger haha.

So rift shift is good to use to get the parry off which does huge build up or zen meter while other things are on cd and it interrupts a mobs combo. It also has a very low cd. It helps with the dance of stuff and it’s great imo

I cant tell you how many times I used deadly embrace to dodge boss attacks in the early game.

There’s some misinformation in this video, and the rankings are honestly not very good.

I’d rank them more like this IMO:

1. Odin
Zantetsuken is the most OP move in the game, period.

2. Shiva
Perfect ice dodge gives insane attack openings.

3. Garuda
Mini-stagger opening, snatch, all-round useful.

4. Phoenix
Generally useful movement ability, Lunge is good enough to not need it.

5. Titan
Personal favorite, but the block/parry is down right worse than dodging in many cases.

6. Bahamut
Powerful, but requires a high amount of build up. Needs to be built around.

7. Ramuh
Handicaps movement too much, slow to lock on to single targets, low utility.

For individual skills my top 6:

1. Lightening Rod
High uptime and stagger utility, combos with both your own and enemies multi-hit attacks.

2. Will o’ the Wykes
Unmatched defensive ability, wombocombos with Lightening Rod.

3. Diamond Dust
Can 50% most Will gauges and near instantly get to 1.5 bonus while freezing stagger bar.

4. Dancing Steel
Zantetsuken enabler, freezes stagger bar completely.

5. Megaflare
Just a mess load of damage, slows stagger bar, easy to use.

6. Rift Slip
High skill ceiling, stagger bar freeze shenanigans, best utility skill.

Lol every you tuber says shiva is one of the best and this guy says she’s the worst. You lost my credibility at that point sorry

I never struggled with Rook’s Gambit or any of the counter skills. I thought they were pretty easy to use but I guess it’s different for everyone.

As far as the other skills, Im rocking with Odin and its Zan gimmick. I run:

– Pheonix: Rising Flame and Pile Drive for close up and Single/AOE damage
– Shiva: Lightning Rod and Dancing Steel for freeze set up and then instant Zan
-Odin: Heaven’s Cloud and Rift Slip for more Zan build up and combo

For some nice Eikon skill pairs:
– Wicked Wheel + Upheaval (use your jumps and launch for max height and then Upheaval
– Gouge and Impulse (Impulse first, Gouge and then detonate
– Wykes and Ignition/Lightning Rod (obvious)
– Mesmerize and Wicked Wheel or Scarlet Cyclone or any AOE
– Rising Flame and Thunderstorm/Ice Age/Heatwave
– Lightning Rod and Gigaflare

I just find myself disagreeing. That’s the beauty of this game though, one person can have a whole different perspective.

Did you never like combine abilities onto other eikons?

This has to be objectively the worst list. You pretty much dismiss the counter abilities since you can get the timing right. Heatwave, rooks gambit, and raging fists all do crazy will damage and cooldown faster when used as a counter. Lightning rod is pretty busted when combined with the right abilities. Cold snap is crazy strong. After I freeze them I use rime, impulse then lightning rod. After a few magic bursts I detonate impulse then they’re staggered. You’re sleeping on shiva

I’m with the other commenters, Cold Snap is absolutely nuts. In FF mode there are plenty of scenarios with the more aggressive AI that just freezing the entire group is hella good. For one thing, it sets up Dancing Steel, which is actually a pain in the ass to use otherwise on account of its windup is crazy long. The Garuda ability is far and away better than titan block. Between letting you pull those grab-ass buffing mages, get into the air to dodge abilities, and inflict a significant stagger on the mid will break that either buys you a free dancing steel (again, pain in the ass to use otherwise) or a massive chunk of the remaining stagger bar, it’s insane. Not to mention the Garuda abilities are easily better than Titan, since getting the enemy into stagger is almost always better than outright damage, outside of your super damage lightning rod/gigaflare/judgment bolt combos. Deadly embrace + Gouge is basically half a stagger bar on its own. Diamond dust + Deadly Embrace + Gouge is virtually guaranteed a stagger. If you cold snap freeze the enemy you can limit break, do a ton of stagger first, and swap the order, doing a gouge first, to save your diamond dust for the second half of the stagger bar where the second hit of DD hits while the enemy is staggered and jumps the multiplier to 1.3 immediately, which is massive damage.

To me, there are 5 mandatory skills. Gigaflare, lightning rod, Dancing steel, Diamond dust, Judgment bolt, and that last slot is probably best used for additional stagger or utility, like Gouge/Wicked Wheel. I like to roll Rebirth there because it does great stagger, especially with a lightning rod down, gives you fat heals sometimes, and shreds the small mobs in aoe. It ain’t necessary, cause Zantetsuken and DD also AoE shit down just fine, but it’s there for the additional flexibility.

I do agree though, Shiva’s spells seem pretty bad, outside of DD. I never find myself wanting to use Bahamut for anything but gigaflare though. I hate sitting back charging when I could be actively attacking and the cost of using his other abilities to give you something aggressive while you charge doesn’t seem worth it. I’m willing to admit I haven’t played around with it enough to know that it isn’t better than the above rotations though.

Love garuda because you can stun someone 1 time per stagger bar. Shive is dead last ecen tho you can stun someone for 10 seconds every time they attack

yeah im sorry shiva is low key op… i love the dodge !! diamond dust is nasty on stagger , the others abilities do kinda suck lol

Really interesting to see how so many people have different opinions on which abilities are good. Definitely speaks to how well the devs balanced combat and made it more of a preference thing than an objective this ability deals more damage / utility than this one as all of them have their uses and combinations.

It seems like you didn’t mix and match abilities from different eikons.

Heaps!!!

titan being so high is wild to me. I found no real use in the block mechanics (especially if you are using the ring of timely focus) and with other attacks like ramuh and garuda for massive damage there’s no real need for the titan attacks

Stagger numbers go to 1.5 faster from higher will damage skills. It is a mini misconception that number of hits increases it faster.

My dude, permafrost is OP as hell, and diamomd dust instantly gets stagger multiplier to 1.5.

Rip shiver

Shivas dodge has built in cheese, also lightning rod is actually op of utilized correctly…use will o wisp then stand next to light rod *good for charging bahamut.. drop a rod before gigaflare and double your damage..helps fill zen bar f0r odin, can pair with abilites

Mesmerize is good to combo with other AoE abilities and does decent stagger damage with a very low cooldown. Diamond Dust also does the most stagger damage to enemies.

When i heard shiva last, i went tf?!??

Shiva’s dodge for freeze and then using Odin’s dancing steel to get Max Zan op imo

Cold snap is one of the best eikonic feats. Freezing a group of enemies for 5 seconds just for precision dodging is insane.

Lightning Rod is actually busted. I typically drop it as soon as I get a stagger, pop off a charged lvl 5 zantetsuken, dancing steel, and Zan meter is boosted by the Ligtning Rod so I get lvl 5 again and most small bosses aren’t going to survive a singular stagger. Throw in a Judgement Bolt for extra damage if you need it. At lvl 45 I found this out and immediately jumped to 140k stagger damage.

Also, raging fist is a block.

Lightning Rod is OP for staggered targets. Drop it next to a target at a start of a stagger and is hugely amplifies damage because every tick is getting 300-400 extra damage.
My favorite pure dps attack with relatively short cooldown is gigaflare.

I didn’t know how op oden’s is until i did a level 5 zantetsuken in odens trial.

I think i’m in the boat with most people here saying its kinda shocking to see Shiva last, Id honestly swap titan and Shiva in usefulness once you’ve finished the game and have them all. As at least to me, almost everything titan does one of the other eikons does it better. Once you have level 5 Zentetsuken there’s like nearly 0 reason to take AoE skills outside of Diamond Dust for just nuking the bar to stagger them. As you can dancing steel with the accessory and just 1 shot everything on FF mode that doesn’t have a stagger bar. I also found myself using the Shiva dodge for enemies at close range as it just opens them up to multiple free hits on a precision dodge, and the heatwave counter was better for projectiles.

the 3 I used for FF mode and just steamrolled it (along with abilities) were: Shiva (Diamond Dust, Lightning Rod) Phoenix (Heat Wave, Gigaflare), And Odin (Dancing Steel, Impulse)

I considered swapping phoenix for Garuda, but I liked the increased range on the phoenix teleport when mastering it.

Ability wise overall (so including all 4 and not mix and matching from each) id probably rank them:
7.Titan: I found kinda lacking all around later in the game, His block isn’t the greatest as it just blocks the attack coming and doesn’t delay or stop the next one like Shiva dodge, or normal parry. All his abilities are lack luster with other eikons doing what he does just better at endgame.
6. Garuda: has some decent stagger damage, but I didn’t find it worth using over some other abilities, the grapple and pull down on stagger was fairly decent
5. Ramuh: only reason he’s not last is Lightning rod being insanely strong
4. Phoenix / Ifrit: Phoenix TP is alright, Will o Wykes and Heatwave counter are fairly strong
3. Bahamut: Impulse is good, and Gigaflare is really good. The fact its others are kinda meh at best puts it under Shiva for me
2. Shiva: Diamond Dust is one from my experience and almost everyone ive talked to that you dont take off once you get it. Can take half a bosses stagger bar out even in FF mode in one use. Its insane. Her dodge ability is really good too once you get the timing down, freezing enemies for a few seconds. Other 2 are alright and can be combo’d well in some situations.
1. Odin: Everything is about building Zentetsuken and Zentetsuken is insanely OP. Will leave it at that.

Dancing steel & Zentetsuken + gigaflare + lightning rod make for some insane dps combos on staggers when people have ultima weapon ive seen people breaking 400k+ with them. (also you can use diamond dust to instantly hit 1.5 multiplier if you choose)

Was a good video though!

Shiva is at least top 3 best eikons

Swift recovery is for after taking dmg. And rift slip is to cancel your offense animation. There are insane players fhat use it so well it is the most powerful ability in their entire arsenal.

Ramuh strongest skill is lightning rod. Pair it with will of the wyke / gigaflare or dancing steel. It will change your entire gameplay. It either deals massive dmg and stagger dmg or allow dancing steel to charge at twice the rate so dancing steel brings u to max lvl 5 zentsetsuken.

Stagger multiplier is not multi hits. Try it with diamond dust and it instantly rise to 1.5x. it is depending on the stagger dmg.

I run Bahamut, with Ignition and Giga Flare for stagger damage
Garuda, with Raging fist for counters and Windup stagger damage and
Odin with Gungnir and Heaven’s Cloud.
Build up bar. At stagger use zentetsuken, gigaflare, windup, ignition, then odin abilities… rinse repeat. Throw in a raging fist, the right time, to feel like Jiren which is an instant plus!
Completely destroyed all opponents.

Try firing gigaflare through lightning rod hehehehe. I love ramuh Garuda and bahamut

Pro tip for you wings of light users in the bahamet tree, use your taunt ability to force the enemies to attack you so you can get those dodges off quicker

I think Shiva deserves the 2nd, Her Diamond Dust alone is great, Cooldown is fastest 2nd compared to Odin’s Dancing Steel.

Confused on your rankings, for Titan I dislike upheaval and found windup amazing.

Shiva is amazing for my play style and I felt bahuamut to be super disappointing outside of Giga flair.

I see most people rating Shiva top 3

Shiva’s cold snap can be deadly if used right (execute precision dodge with it) I usually pair it with Odin’s Steel Dance which is hard to execute on mobile & unstaggered enemies.

Diamond dust = can instantly stagger or eat a heavy chunk of enemies stagger bar.

Another nice ability to pair is
>> Ramuh’s lighting rod × Shiva’s mesmerize × Ifrit’s Will O Wake
>> Ramuh’s lighting rod × Shiva’s mesmerize × Bahamut’s Flarebreath

This guy needs to play the game again Sony no way this man thinks shiva is the worst one 💀

Shiva being last is nuts. Selecting The Shiva Freeze dodge with Ramuhs Pile Driver and Thunderstorm was so usefull in final fantasy mode

Lightning rod paired with gigaflare and will of the wykes is a top tier combo. It’s a top ability to me. It’s a good damage amp

shiva freeze is insanely good, diamond dust is hella good, lighting rod is one of the top 3 abilities, and this dude is a noob

Giga flair works extraordinarily well with lightning rod because lightning rod hits with every tick of giga

Shiva should be higher because of stagger damage of diamond dust alone

honestly diamond dust being able to completely decimate stagger bars makes shiva worth it on that alone, it’s bahamut that i find myself not using all that often.

To me, satelite works really well while trying to build up megaflare since you can spam the stun hits while charging and you can use the satelites during ultimates and other skills which is nice