I just lost all interest when I saw it was just a generic action game. If I want an action RPG, Darls Souls, Bloodborne or Elden Ring already fill that category.

Ff7 remake and rebirth being ps only on launch does hurt the game. New game hype is real and if you’re late to the party it’s not as fun. Plus the fact that rebirth you have to play remake in order to play it. That’s a big barrier of entry.

Ff16 I thought and borrowed my sons ps5 to play it. It looked turd so I quit it wanting to play it on my pc. Never got round to buying it again though. 😅

I only just recently got this game on Xbox because I found it in a deal bin in the Microsoft store. I had no idea it was even released. It’s not like everyone with an Xbox is paying attention to “shadow drops”

Master Splinter is one of Yanited’s better players 🐀🤷‍♂

Making it a PS exclusive was the biggest reason

Inferior version…. no DLC for free…. full price…… two years later……

I find the real issue was that it was artistic, not satisfying. The first third is solid, but the crap snowballs until the ending is so unpleasant FFXV looks gloriously upbeat in comparison. Unpleasant endings are artistic, i get that, but I an not playing a FF game to eatch a tragedy. I want to walk away from that franchise energized, not “moved”.

FF16 outsold expedition 33 comfortably so I’m not sure how it “killed it”.

FF7 Rebirth was great but a little long if you just want to complete it. Played it myself then with my kids. Loved it both times. My wife didn’t play FF16 but was fascinated enough with that world to join me for the cutscenes

You neglect a platform completely killing off your franchise to that player base and are then shocked that no one bought it years after it came out? Lol

Gamepass killed xbox game sales, forever. Games will not sell on that platform.

I don’t have anything against action games. The main issue I had with Final Fantasy 16 combat was that your party is completely irrelevant. Final Fantasy games are supposed to be about meeting people, forming a party, and going on a grand adventure together.

The game was absolutely terrible

No, just XBOX 😂

Fanboys using steam peak numbers as sales numbers….why do you guys care about sales numbers 😂 none of you are shareholders. Top it off, you have ff fans complain about ff16 and 7 how they arent rpgs and focus more on hack n slash. Move on or stick with it, theres enough youtube videos with playthroughs. Yall cry too much

The hype has died already! Had they released it on Xbox day one, we’d be looking at a better sales figure.

Wait. It’s out? I thought it was coming g out this fall.

FFXVI didn’t sell well on Xbox because it was poorly advertised for being on Xbox and most people that were interested in playing it already seen the streams and know what it’s all about. Release your titles on all systems to start and your numbers will be better.

F around and find out. You’re in the find out stage Square-Enix

It sold over 3 million copies the first week on PlayStation. The sales are down now because it released on Xbox.

It shadow dropped full price. I wanna play it, but I’m still saving up after getting the Switch 2

Well, they went away from what people enjoyed for 10 games….

I think the problem is with Xbox

I miss the old Square Enix. Modern Square Enix has become too Western. If I want a game for a western audience that caters to Western sensibilities, I’ll buy from a Western game developer.

There’s 16 of them. There’s the answer 😂

Ff is no longer the juggernaut. Theyve fked us multiple times with 12 to a degree, massive with 13, dripfed us with 15.

I play XBOX and I was hyped for FFXI when it first came out. I was kind of bummed when they didnt release it for my platform and as the years went on Im over it. I also love FFVII but Im not excited for a 10+ year old game. I might pick it up on sale but Im not paying full price for a FF nostalgia cash grab or a mid FF game of thrones wannabe

I mean its too much of a different thing tbh

This is what happens when you lock Xbox players out for years, wtf do they expect

Maybe its because a lot of people still don’t have a PS5? Izsz really expensive and a lot of games are just remakes or stuffed full with politics.

16 Should have been on gamepass, missed opportunity

Let’s not forget that a lot of FFXVI sales come from FFXIV players that think Yoshi P is their god and friend.

I bought ff16 on Xbox on release, and have ignored it because it’s not Claire Obscure:Expedition 33

Im plating it now. Sooo much wasted potential. Tgey concentrated on visuals and forgot the rest. Theres crafting but it is an absolute joke. All the side quests are snoozefest that took 0 thought to make. The story drags and the dialog is a to of filler. It feels like nothing is happening and there is no purpose. The areas are all hallways and all boxed in, i feel trapped like a rat in a very easy 1 way maze. It’s very repetitious from the fights which are way too simplistic and repetitive to the areas which are really dont have anything going on. Money is pretty much useless and the items are extremely limited. They hand out a ton of crafting materials that you simply cannot even use, so you sell them but there is nothing to biy really and no high powered item or weapons to grind gil to get. None of it feels like exploring and other than the visuals it is not immersive at all. Rune factory 4 has a whole lot more complexity in the gameplay and theres a lot more to do, its a kiddie game with less a 10th of the graphics and is a lot less boring. Dark cloud on ps2 is funner than ff16. The visuals are good but they didn’t do anything woth the rest. Its an interactive movie, and a boring one at that. Do better SE do better or die out.

Two words;
Sony Exclusive.
makes about as much sense, as dumping a game on the Epic Game store, for a whole year…..

I’m too busy replaying the FFX remaster with mods. So much fun and a guaranteed fun time spent. Sorry, FFXV, completely ruined the franchise forward. I’m definitely going for expedition 33 for my 2025 Christmas.

Make it turn-based

Damn 16? I have not played 1

This is where exclusivity can be a double edged sword either it’s good and people can’t wait to buy or it’s a flop and 2 years later it sells less because we have seen the gameplay and story take forspoken for example you think it’s going to sell well if they decide to put it on Xbox

13 14 15 16 are all pure garbage and ff7 remake is the bin

7 remake killed the last hope of a RPG ATB GAME….

Lol you think haha the last good FF game is FF12 LOL HAHAHA arcade adventure NOT COMPLETE button mashers suck , they are trash. FF7 remake is obsolete they have to remake the game and make it RPG with the ATB SYSTEM.

It’s so simple: make Final Fantasy turn base again. Duh.

16 is a very bad game

who cares about xbox

Putting it on XBox was an idiotic move – the number of buyers of Xbox Series consoles has been already surpassed by the Switch 2 – even though the Switch 2 has VERY LITTLE in terms of games and only came out this month. Square needs to get their head out of their arse and stop pushing the Final Fantasy brand to be ‘unlimited budget super cinematic’ when their audience is very much in three places only – Sony, Nintendo and PC. And of those, Sony consoles are reaching their power limit, Nintendo has no interest in power, and their PC audience is mostly in China or is playing FF14, a game they’ll still be supporting (to paraphrase Deadpool) WHEN WE’RE 90. I think by stepping down the graphics (which, btw, given how much of it is brown, brown and more brown – oddly enough like Clive Barker’s Clive Barker’s Jericho – thank you, Yatzee – probably isn’t going to make a lick of difference in the long run) and sticking it on the Switch 2, they might just get somewhere. They WON’T hit their target numbers, because Square doesn’t have a clue what realistic target numbers are, but they’ll sell more than on XBox, easily. But as other people have said, they’re intentionally alienating their core audience, they need to rethink their strategy. Devil May Fantasy (or Final Cry or whatever) is just not appealing to people who enjoy Final Fantasy, because it’s WAY off what they expect. There’s not even a party anymore, there’s just Clive.

Not enough people telling the truth in these comments. NOTHING sells on xbox

So what they expect for a mediocore game which have been released on pc 6 months ago (& 1yr before on ps)

people don’t get xboxs for jrpgs, they have never been popular on xbox consoles.

Lets be real PlayStation users carry final fantasy

Truth is it’s final fantasy in name omly

I watched this video in 720p 60fps in solidarity

It didn’t sell well on Xbox because the console sucks and nobody has one.

Idk maybe because there isn’t a huge base on Xbox LMAO

Old game on a dead console where people don’t buy games. What else would anyone expect? If it was on game pass everyone would be claiming to love it to death.

Was it a really bad game or a poor story or something? I thought about trying it but I’d rather wait for final fantasy 7 rebirth or whatever.

Been playing FF since VIII and don’t want to play God of Fantasy may Cry. Nope.

I strongly disliked 15, 13 was okaaaay (gameplay was bad, though) and 16 was baby’s first DMC. All I can say is that at this point I don’t care much about FF anymore outside of the odd remake.

Its a story about overcoming oppression and slavery…Of course racist scumbags arent going to support it. I think FF16 is still one of the best games of the decade

Said he hates rebirth. Downvote automatic

Console only games doesn’t work anymore.

FFXVI was okay at best. It somehow managed to do everything wrong with open world games, while being a non open world game

The lack of turned base is not problem and they can easily implemented it as. An option to all their game with real time combat like Metaphor fantazio. Is just Square make dumb decisions to make games solely for ps platforms only and then release their games on other platforms at separate dates when people lost the appeal of these games.

Who told them to wait 3 years to bring an old ass game at full price to xbox and an unstable port to pc.

The franchise is old. Many old fans are still alive tho. I can only speak for myself, but I much prefer the old Turn-based final fantasy with simple numbers and mechanics to the new generation of staggering monsters who have sissy-super-duper-boss mode that activate and wipe all of the party because you didn’t use “X” combo at “Y” time. Yes, there where such battles in the classic FFs (1 thru 10), but they were few and not as obnoxious. If real time combat AND the combat mechanics are obnoxious in a FF game, why the heck would I waste money on that ? If they want to recapture the old fans, they will have to go back to basics and get different mechanics closer to the earlier FF from before FF12.

Get a good team of writer and write a semi-open ended FF with an overarching plot, and party sizes of 4-5 like old FFs, maybe even 6 like FF11, and really make a great turn-based (semi-real time setting in the menu) battle system with non-stupid mechanics like being forced to stagger an enemy to inflict real damage or survive. But that’s just me, YMMV.

I disliked FF12 (I know it’s popular, but still), FF13 was absolute garbage (cool graphics and loved Lightning tho, most characters were cool… but the rest of the game? urrrgh). FF14 was another online and I was/still am a FF11-online person (tho they trashed that game in 2011), FF15 was as bad as 13, I dropped it semi-early on, glad I didnt purchase but borrowed from someone. I’m done until they go back to basics. I had enough.

But that’s from an old fan. For context I was already an (young)adult when FF1 came around.
Have fun and see you around everyone !

I actually really love this game

This game is one of the greatest games of all time if you ask me! This just proves that most people don’t know what the hell an amazing unforgettable masterpiece really is. It’s like with the Gravity Rush series on the PS4, the games were incredible and most people just ignored them for some stupid reason. I guess I’m a little mad, but it genuinely upsets me when masterpieces like this get treated like garbage. I am assuming that many people don’t like it because it is different from other Final Fantasy games, isn’t that the point though? I personally like the differences, it just makes the series more unique if you ask me.

The numbers were updated by the time this video was uploaded. The hell of homework did you guys do?

This is most sucks final fantasy xvi I’m ever playing, however it’s a great game’s but I’m going quit final fantasy game’s for research first which it’s Better for gaming 😅

Or is it because people are conditioned to believe something will eventually hit Game Pass on the Xbox side so games aren’t worth buying there.

Ff16 was absolutely incredible

Last good final fantasy was 10
16 was good but didn’t have a party
Remake was meh
Go back to turn base!!!!!

Igni philosphy demk was suppose to be ff16 but instead square cut it and made the idea into forspoken it seems like. Then they had no good idea for ff16 so they made this generic ff16

They changed too much that it is not Final Fantasy no more is more like another average western rpg game with broken combat system

Fantastic game. I was disappointed that it didn’t initially release on Xbox. Having a blast with it on my Series X.

Poor Marketing and shadow dropping it are exactly why sales are bad.

I plan on buying final fantasy 16 for Xbox as soon as I’m done with the hundred of other games that have came out recently and maybe that’s the reason that sales are so poor… I played the demo. I’m actually hooked just not ready for it.

Why the hell did y’all do that to crash bandicoot?

Final fantasy doing poorly on xbox is no shock. They neglected xbox for years and then they expect them to embrace the franchise? If they had released remake and 16 on xbox from the start its a day 1 purchase for me. The ship sailed. I lost interest.

should have never left turn based for action

The whole not having a party you control and being devil may cry. Not something you want to experiment with on a main line game

It is literally the 11th and 18th best-selling game on Xbox Series X|S right now.

(11th is the Complete Edition, and 18th is the base game. Add them together, and I’d estimate that it is in the top 5. Definitely top ten.)

On Xbox PC, it is the 4th best-selling game and the 6th best-selling game. Same setup. The Complete Edition is 4th, and the base game is 6th.

Y’all believe anything you are told and don’t even do the most basic of “research” bedofe posting.

Research wasn’t even actually needed here. All you had to do was logon to the Xbox Series X|S and Xbox PC and just… check. Just check. That’s all you had to do. It’s the most *basic* of…

… ahhhh, nevermind.

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LMFAOOOOOOO. Can we go back to a time when people didn’t care about statements made for stockholders? FF16 sold 3 million copies on a weekend and is a great game. No it’s not for everybody but people have been saying this franchise is “dying” for 20 years. It never will.

I don’t think ppl buy Xbox to play Final Fantasy or RPG’s lol

The company that reported these numbers have made it known that they are just estimates based on how many reviews there are on different storefronts, so in other words it’s nonsense

Lots of people would have bought those games back when they released, but now we already have them on PC so not much market left.

FF16 is mid its ok the combat is ok the story is ok the characters are interesting i give them that but over all the game is a 6/10

I didn’t buy remake 2 BECUASE I WANT IT TURN BASED !! JESUS

Where’s tactics 2 through 50 We wanna know about them, warring lions yo.

Well…. everyone who wanted to play it already played it… plus, they alienated their fanbase trying to cater to a new demographic who didn’t bite the bait.

But how can any newer FF game die when it’s been designed to reach the ‘broader audience’?

The problem is took to long drop it on xbox. its too many good games that came out this year. they mess up. it should came out last year, or 6 to 8 months when it came out.

I’ve been watching this channel for a while and can’t believe you said 16 was great but didn’t like rebirth. I couldn’t wait for 16 to be over and will probably never replay it. Those side missions and the plot holes were horrendous

Part 10 had the last traditional fighting style that i love 🎮

To answer the question in the thumbnail – we can only hope so, but I suspect the world is not that lucky.

They should reboot final fantasy as a whole… The next final fantasy should just be “Final Fantasy” …. Make it turned based and start making sequels from there.

Final Fantasy and square, in its current form, are so far detached to what what made them successful. It’s mind-boggling how this same company released Final Fantasy 6 and Final Fantasy 11 at one point.

Come on lads, it’s xbox.

They ruined the gameplay , the sprites and the fact that you have no party makes it very boring. Everything righr about Final Fantasy 10 and 12 was not even seen on 16. They just went all in for pure crap. Story wise also ranks very poorly

You do realise that analytics estimation for xbox sales is pure guesswork right? They admitred they estimated based on how many reviews it had on xbox compared to playstation 😂😂😂😂

game dont even look like final fantasy …..it feel like game of throne story plus devil may cry 5 combat …..even more story feel less interesting and cant compare to guy who shoot “chaos ” every ten second

FF16 is in the top of the top paid games list on Xbox. This early report was either very early or incorrect.

That game was a snooze fest. People were hyping it up so much and tbh it was both an inferior dmc game and ff game. They literally took out everything that makes a ff game a ff game

Yeah because you want Xbox players to pay full price for a two year old game. You shadow drop it, and how Square Enix has treated Xbox players. Why should they care. Anyone who did has already played it

Tbh this game just sucks, that why nobody is interested

16 sucked.

lol there is only 22,000 xbox users. Most already got it on PC

Xbox gamers buy games?

They fools, update the video

I haven’t turned my Xbox on in months. And I was a huge Xbox guy. So this makes sense.

Considering the overlap between PS owners and FF fan base, this is in no way an indication of the “death of FF.” It is, on the other hand, proof, once more, that you guys have zero analytical ability and need to stop these types of video when it is painfully obvious what the cause is.

Excluding remake & rebirth the last good ff for was 12. Never bought 16 as it doesn’t appeal to me that you only play as 1 character & don’t build a party. Interswappin party members & having a mix of summons is a big part of ff for me. Hope they remake 9, 6 or make 17 more like the earl8er ff’s .

Fake video analytics firm lie and yet they still haven’t taken the video down the Xbox tax is real

Ff16 was a pretty good game kinda reminded me of the old god of war games
Epic boss battles and fun combat

Maybe square enix should tap on sandfall on the shoulder and ask how to make a final fantasy game

Expedition 33 shows how bad square is making final fantasy games

Expedition 33 proves Final Fantasy isn’t the issue…Square-Enix is.

Final fantasy died nearly 20 years ago. Every fan knows this

People wanted final fantasy but got devil may cry instead

if Final Fantasy 16 Sales Are “CATASTROPHIC”, why Square Enix stock at all time high NOW ???
back in 2023 when Square Enix stock dropped, almost all in the gaming media called FF16 a flop, NOW TWO YEARS LATER WE STILL TALKING ABOUT FF16 SALES NUMBER ???, what about FF7 Rebith ?, it sold less than FF16 on PS5, yet for some reason you keep talking about FF16 ???
do you hate the change of FF series from turn base to action base so much that you keep trash talk FF16…
Get a life.

Too many trailers killed FF16. They so desperately want you to buy it that they basically show the entire game
FF16 also looks to have bombed on PC too

YEP. FF16 is the WORST selling Mainline Final Fantasy game and yet the fanboys refuse to admit it.

I’ve got the RECEIPTS on hand and I’ll tell you how badly the sales of FF16 are compared to literally any other FF game.

Like bitch FF13 has 9 MILLION copies sold WORLDWIDE. You’re telling me that FF16 has lower sales than the “Worst Final Fantasy Game ever” ???

Smh FF16 was a commercial and financial failure and it’s time to admit it already

No one buys games on xbox thays the oroblem 😂they beed to release this game on switch 2 im sure it would sell well there

rebirth is a masterpiece… anyone who disagrees is mentally ill

This is what happens when companies dont listen to there audience

So many bad choices. Complete genre shift away from the fanbase that was actually buying the games into a ridiculously oversaturated action game market when SE has never been fantastic at making action games. If they just made a spin off series that might have helped as well instead of usurping mainline FF.

And the budget and graphics. Cool in theory but especially with how poor the games tend to run on console and PC especially, they could easily focus on stylized graphics that still look grand in scale without being so taxing and overblown with tiny details. Reminds me of FF14 when they had those flower pots that destroyed performance because they were so insanely detailed they each took as much memory as player characters even though no one is going to be staring at flower pots to ever need them to be that overly detailed.

square enix have problems with modern ff but this sales report imo is indication of other bigger problem – on xbox ppl dont buy games, thx to gamepass

Shadow dropped no marketing and I’m a fan more of the turn base final fantasy games I will be getting 7 remake as 7 is my favourite but I’m not interested in final fantasy 16

16 is just a mediocre game.

Yes it’s dying. The last good FF game was FF 12 on the fucking PS 2.

I predict 17 will be turn based and their most critically successful in ages

What i dont get is why Xbots complain about Sony exclusivity but they dont buy games. 😂

WE WANT HELLDIVERS!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😢😢

completely misrepresented, the sales are catastrophic on xbox because its 10s of thousands, but it literally just launched on xbox without advertising

They havent made a good final fantasy since ffx or ffxii was decent in some ways other then that pure trash 😂

Square enix is dumb, u don’t get to shyt on an entire user base of Xbox customers then say NOW you can buy it at FULL price a damn year and change later!

Wtf….

Who’s gonna tell them?

Honestly I would have bought this game $70 right out of the gate if it had been available on Xbox from the beginning but I’ve had more than enough time to watch other people play it through YouTube videos got some hands on and a friend’s house. There’s no incentive for me to buy this game even if it’s only $40.

I think I actually like FF16 more than FF7 Rebirth, FF7 remake I think is better though and intergrade was really fun. But the bombastic feel of 16 was just plain fun

JRPGs and XBox just never got along.

Also yes I believe 15 was the downfall for Final Fantasy games (I love ff7 remakes tho) but as you guys stated 15 was so overhyped for years and I was extremely excited but the story fell extremely flat

Lol probably because Xbox fans thought it was going to be on Game Pass OR got so used to everything being on Game Pass that they probably didn’t want to purchase it

For some reason I just can’t get into final fantasy which is weird because I love kingdom hearts but not all the Disney stuff which is basically what final fantasy is

Those sales aren’t facts but an assumption based upon reviews. Weird to make a video based off of such random information

Reminds me when Capcom dropped horror and insisted they didn’t sell, so they made Resident Evil full action. Then they finnaly came to their senses and returned to horror to huge sales. SE still hasn’t learned their lesson and insists on making games their fans don’t want.

there have been a few good games since but ff7 is still peak. visuals got better but devs and writers didn’t, really.

FF16 is meh…. FF7 Rebirth is contender RPG of the decade

It’s a terrible game. For me it’s the worst FF game on almost every level. Characters, story, combat was bad. It was pretty to look at and the music was passable but that’s about it. I wasn’t this let down by a game since Quest 64 lol.

Also, I’m one of the few that loved XIII 😂

I think it is. They’ve been moving away from the series’ roots in gameplay since 11. FF16 plays so far removed from what Final Fantasy was, it’s nuts. Action RPG. ONE person your playing as and no party members. Square Enix have betrayed their fans. If they would go back to their turn-based roots with a group of characters and different ones to play as, the sales would be HUGE.

How can you love the first FFVII remake and hate the 2nd part of it? I mean the first one was a overstretched mess it was like the first hour of the original game stretch to a full size game

I want large companies to reign in their scopes to a manageable and a sustainable future.

They did a shitty PC port thats very inferior to the PS5 version and they jilted us 2 years by not releasing day and date.

Did it even cover the cost of porting the game?

THIS WAS DISPROVEN

Firstly, I don’t think Xbox gamers have ever traditionally gone for FF games.
Secondly, as mentioned, Xbox gamers have now been trained not to buy games anymore. They just play whatever’s on GamePass.
The numbers are honestly not surprising to me.

I’ll play it eventually, but as it stands, my primary interest is the name “Final Fantasy”, not the gameplay itself.
I’ve played/beaten every solo player mainline FF game since the first one came out, so I’d play it for the completionist in me. But yeah, it’s otherwise less enticing to me. I’d rather play something turn based.

Problem is you already knew the game because of reviews when it came on Xbox. Keep making final fantasy hack and slash, let’s see how that works for you.

I am still amused at how much ff16 Mc looks like Velvet Crowe from Tales of Berseria

My series s is basically just a gamepass machine for me. I love it but I don’t often buy games anymore.

Final fantasy always fail when sales are concerned on the xbox

It’s dying after 9

Square started chasing the formula for financial success rather than sticking to good, emotional, storytelling.

They told their fans bullshit and then told their fans what their fans should want.

They gave us 15—the last final fantasy feeling final fantasy, after a huge mess up with 12, 13, and 14—and then left the fans in the dust rather than complete the game.

They then ruined FF7r, like they didn’t know what players wanted, changing the story, and adding the most cartoonish nonsense I’ve ever seen in a game. And then they doubled down for Rebirth, which sold less than half as many copies.

And then 16…I have yet to finish it, it isn’t a bad game, it’s just not Final Fantasy. I bought the game on release, with hope in my heart. I was let down yet again.

Then I heard of Clair Obscure, it became the first game I’d preordered in ten years. I knew it was going to be good, the final fantasy I’d wanted for years, I felt it in my bones. I could tell from the few clips I’d seen, from the music in the trailer, the way the characters spoke as if their world was real. And it was. Blindingly so.
The depth of writing, the connections of characters, their arcs, the twists and turns, the raw emotion. The fact it pulled you through the world as if you belonged, unravelled the story in your mind, rather than telling you what you have to know and kicking you down the corridor.

It held all the values I used to love about Final Fantasy, the values they put to the side for margins of profit. The loss of which has ultimately caused their demise.

Will they come back from it? I hope so, their old games are some of my all-time favourites, games I play every couple of years.

But they’re going to need to pull their head out of their arse and stop relying on the enablement of modern, mindless fandom and toxic positivity.

Also Xbox Series does not have a large userbase, regardless of “everything is an xbox”.

Go back to turn based… be surprised how many buy just because that alone. So many have hyped the new in time combat but just hype. I’d say really most actual final fantasy fans want good graphic, great story, turn based. Very simple… tried to make a action game 5 times now that no one wanted… sales only worked out cause hype of something new. Now it’s not an wow no sales, weird.

I don’t have money

Ah yes a negative vid by the 2 presenters who only do negative vids.

Its shoulda been on xbox I brought it last week 🤷🏽‍♂️

I think they absolutely flubbed the FF7 Remake with the wild story changes, I feel like no one talks about that enough in terms of sales numbers between Rebirth and Remake.. “Fool me once, shame on… fact is don’t try to fool me.”

Two key issues. 1. Recent FF titles arent FF titles, but middling entries into the super saturated 3rd person action rpg-lite genre. All the adderal kiddies that need endless action have been silenced to a remarkable degree in recent years with regards to people not wanting classic JRPGs. FF does not need to keep catering to the knuckle draggers at the cost of brand identity.

2. SE’s franchise management has been trash. Bloated dev budgets and directionless development cycles. Being out of touch with what your audience wants. Churning out poorly performing titles. Phoning in ports after acting like they weren’t in Sony’s pocket. Disrespecting the audience by changing a visual remake into a full price, multi-installment remake loaded with bloat. SE has some significant issues to tackle.

Its hilarious that SE turned to Xbox to increase sales, its a market they’ve openly neglected, and most people that don’t own a Playstation who have interest in these games would pick them up where the mod community opens up options and variety.

Erm, nobody owns an Xbox except a few CoD weirdos…. Definitely not the core audience for FF games, all the recent FF games have sold really well, with the exception of Rebirth, which is understandable due to it being a sequel that requires having played the first game.

We haven’t had a proper FF since 12.

I like collecting trophies, Ive got a few platinum working on FF12 but have been branching to other francises like SMT and Tales of.

I personally loved ff16. That along with expedition 33 are 2 of my fav games this gen

Ya I have this game on PS5 bc of my brother and I still don’t wanna play it 😂

The reason Final Fantasy 15 sold like crap was because it was disjointed and slashed to bits, and not a great Final Fantasy game. Regardless of platform, it wasn’t going to sell great. Final Fantasy 16 took too long to go to Xbox and anyone that probably wanted to play it, either played it on PC or just bought a PS5. Not listening to fans and trying to cater for an audience that doesn’t care is the problem with Square Enix and having something not work once, and then going 100% in the other direction every time instead of going back to their roots will kill them eventually. Slowly and painfully…

I had bought this… but I regretted it. I wanted a Final Fantasy. I did not want Devil May Bitch.

Xbox has devalued games with gamepass. All anyone said about FF16 was “Gamepass ?” Or “No gamepass no play” also when was the last time a full priced game actually sold well on an Xbox ? They have been conditioned to not buy games so games releasing kn Xbox will likely lose money instead of make it.

Pretty sure the marketing didn’t help it at all. Maybe ita just a “me” thing. But when 15 came out, it was EVERYWHERE. I didn’t even know 16 came out until about a year afterwards.

Square were delusional in thinking that releasing on xbox was going to do anything significant for sales. Most of their fan base are already either on PlayStation or pc. Anyone who plays on xbox these days is conditioned to not purchase games and theyre definitely not the type of gamers who are final fantasy fans, let alone willing to try it on a passive interest. Final fantasy is just caught in the trap of constantly changing to chase trends in gaming rather than having the confidence to set new trends or redefine old ones. 16 had great presentation as you’d expect from ff but even though the gameplay was good, the game lacked the system depth and world density you expect from ff.

Had FF16 actually launched on xbox on release when it was at its peak hype they might of got 500k to 1 million sales its too late now and in few months you can buy it 50% off

What did Square expect? They went exclusive on a game and released it later on other platforms a whole 3 years later. We already watched TONS of streamers and content creators play the game all of the way through. Why would new players try to dive in when they already saw everything it has to offer….3 years later.

Say what you want, think what you want, these are the facts:
1. Sony said FF16 wasn’t coming to Xbox so players like me who were hyped about it lost all interest immediately
2. It’s been 2? years since it came out so people have forgotten about it, especially the aforementioned ones like me
3. Considering it was never supposed to be on Xbox, people are probably waiting to see if it plays properly or if it was thrown to us as a quick cash grab with no real QA
4. It was literally SHADOW dropped onto Xbox. I logged in yesterday and saw it on the dashboard. Only reason I even knew
5. It’s still being retailed at $50. Great price, no doubt about it. That’s the correct decision, but, people don’t want to be spending full price on games, especially ones that have been out for years.

It was shadow dropped on a system that typically gets it’s players subscribed to get “free games” from the service.

Expedition 33 sandfall took the final fantasy crown 👑 from square

I’ve been saying this ever since Square threw up their hands and decided they’re totally against exclusivity.

Maybe they should have launched the game on multiple consoles, but what kind of numbers did they really expect for Xbox gamers. Honestly.

They cultivated a fan base that doesn’t want to play games unless they’re on GamePass. No one on Xbox buys games

Still haven’t bought it, currently playing few titles on my backlog. Maybe the price will drop, though the normal 50EUR isn’t that bad for the PC version.

Good, let it die.
We got better series to play anyways.

Thats really sad. FFXVI is such a good video game.

Sorry you don’t like 13 but love 16? …. No thank you…. 13 and 13-2 were amazing pieces some of the best story there is and the game play with the different class changes

Square Enix needs to go back to their roots PLEASE! Expedition was only as good as it is, because there are absolutely no turn based RPGs out there…. I won’t deny 33 is a great game but we are in this space of wanting RPGs sooooo bad

Only because of Square Enix’s insane sales expectations did FF16 “flop”. It’s so frustrating to see corporations have such unreasonable expectations only to write them off as failures afterwards! Square Enix are like spoiled brats at this point.

FF15 turned me off the series. its just a hack and slash game with some RPG elements these days. Not the FF games I enjoyed.

Final fantasy never sold well on Xbox 🤷‍♂️. That is why they stopped selling on Xbox in the first place. It is why a lot of jrpgs never try and release on Xbox.

Sooo, nice trickery with the title, making it seem like the game was just absolutely abysmal all around. You’re talking only about XBox. *sigh* I’ll catch ya’ll next video.

I mean… I’ve seen marketing for it… But also… everyone who was going to buy it bought it on PS5 or PC. I’m not shocked.

I don’t think this is the problem people are making out to be because the metrics are skewed by time. But also as a long time SE fan, I know and read more about the company than most. Part of the reason they say everything doesn’t meet expectations is because of the way they judge it. I’ve read from someone who was an insider a few years ago that they set their sales goal based on how much money was spent on the game against how much money they would have made by just investing the money in the stock market (An issue with the company being Square Enix Holdings Co. ltd and not just simply Square Enix Games or something. Holdings implies that they’re an investment company first). Thus if a game does not beat out in sales the theoretical amount they would have made by never making the game and just investing in the stock market, it doesn’t meet sales expectations. That’s an issue in and of itself.

However, I also question things about the source and timing of the sales information because, let’s face it… It’s been like A WEEK. That’s not nearly long enough to make accurate judgements nor do you have a full picture. It’s like all the people acting like DND 2024’s new PHB only sold 3773 copies… That was based off of really bad data that no one reporting on it actually understood. That data didn’t include sales from local book stores or Amazon, or even DND Beyond. I think it only accounts for major book stores like Barnes and Nobel… which is the worst possible place to buy those books. Also, a number that precise and exact can’t be an accurate picture even with a reliable source as it’s failing to account for some sales, especially when it was known all 3000 presale copies at GenCon had sold out. It’s the same with Final Fantasy 16. There’s plenty going on here, and Xbox has a lower install base to begin with, and a lot of Xbox players are more likely to own a gaming PC as well. A lot of people who would have bought it there probably got it on PC. You have to do look at a much bigger picture. Plus think about how many people have probably bought FF16 on PS5 since it came out as the price has gone down over time.

Its an old game at new game prices, you cant expect to cash in on the hype of a new game when the game is throughly spoiled and the discourse is years dead.

Sorry but it’s now an old game released way too expensive and took way too long to come to the Xbox also we want a final fantasy game not DMC
That means turn base or something similar and strong focus on story also multiple characters to play that have different roles
They need to go back to basics and make a game people can afford

Final Fantasy began dying with XII.

We like turn-based. Give us Dragon Quest, Persona, and Clair Obscur. I

I liked XII, but it doesn’t have the Final Fantasy feel.

Because it’s a spinoff with a number on it. They should have… Oh, I dunno, made a final fantasy game, not medieval devil may cry

Final Fantasy is dying … they are trying so hard to leave their past behind them. Current FF games have more akin to God of War than they do with their own games from the past. This is also why Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is selling and doing so well. It is more of a Final Fantasy game than any of the last 6 FF games have been.

In fairness, FF16 has been out on PS5 for near two years, and PC for nearly 9 months. Why did they think sales would fly through the roof? People have the game already.
Stupid part is that by making it a PS5 exclusive for so long, they likely LOST sales. Previous titles in the series were released on Xbox at the same time as the Playstation counterparts… so not sure why this one had to be held back.

It’s sad, FF16 was pure heat. I got the platinum for it that’s how good it was.

It’s not dying, it’s dead. Square Enix said it didn’t sale well on the PlayStation or steam, plus it’s an old ass game. Most of us Xbox players have lost interest in it because we’ve all seen the endings and Easter eggs even though it’s only $50, most of us will pass. My wife bought it, but she’s a Final Fantasy fan.

It hasn’t been final fantasy since 12

It’s not dead, Clair Obscur is eating the same bandwidth for players now and it’s a game that released full price years later.

Thumbnail is clickbait. Could be because no one wants an XBox!!

it had crap ending.

As the Godfather once said, “Look what they did to my boy.” Devil May Cry XVI wasn’t a Final Fantasy game and I’m glad it’s failing.

Problem is, FF is now just another generic gameplay game.

I think it’s been a trend with the big PS exclusives in general.
Story driven games have it worse since, frankly, generic ARPG gameplay slop sucks. So if everyone just watches the cutscenes and other big moments, few feel anything is “lost” by not having the “experience” of Generic APRG Slop #69. If FF stuck to turn-based JRPG type routes and iterated on that, they’d probably have better times here since there’s more of a FUN based reason to pick up the core game itself. Rather than treating it as a once and done movie.

finalfantasy 16? i call it god of fantasy…or fantasy of war…because thats what has become, its a god of war clone, and for that i preffer god of war, final fantasy was the best turn based rpg, and they decided to let down all of their fanbase

This is why clive is mad in tekken 8

16 was such a let down. Yes it was a very pretty game, but the writing was terrible. Cid was the best thing about that game and if ya know, ya know. Also I don’t need to spend 30 mins on a boss fight having to fight it in multiple forms. It’s great for a final boss but all of them? Also it was so padded in the middle it just got stale. I don’t need to do 6 hours of fetch quests.

FF16 is mid, dont blame the XBOX owners. The copies sold is based on reviews in the game card on XBOX. If you call this accurate from a journalism pov you are a clown.

6 and 8 remakes and another dissidia game then the franchise can die happily

Honestly with Dune, Expedition 33, Lies of P DLC, Nightreign, ect…I mean theres only so much time to play : (

Its likely FF7 remake part 3 will be the last Final Fantasy game. I can’t see FF17 even being a thing.

they turned a tactical turn based strategy heavy game into devil may cry… Fail

There wasn’t a single FF game since X that I was hyped for. Every new game looks less appealing to me.

Final fantasy suffers greatly from “oh well I didn’t play the first 15 games” where you have to rebuttle with “well first off there’s like 28” and then explain that only sequels to the number entries are cannon in each universe and every numbered entry is its own exclusive game

I skipped 15 and 16 because they’re action games. I struggled to get through 7 Remake and stalled out on Rebirth. I don’t really care if the game frame rate dips as long as it isn’t catastrophic, but I don’t really enjoy DMC style action. Also, the reviews of 16 indicated the story is a mopey bad time. No thanks.

They focused on the wrong console they should have ported it on the switch 2

Final Fantasy 16 was a linear pile of garbage. I only had it for a week, and just was bored AF. Xenophobic trash.

The people at Square Enix dont know what FF means anymore, I feel something like this could happen when Horii leaves Square Enix and someone else has to make Dragon QUuest games. I know, the name says FF, but there’s something missiing, a lot of the sensations, themes and identity is gone

Also, im 💯 over Ff7 remake. Its completely stupid to me making this a multiple installment game when its just FF7, nothing we haven’t seen before. I really dont care about 7 anymore and its waaaaay overrated now. So in reality, i blame FF7 rebirth and the fans obsession with 7 as the ultimate death to Final Fantasy.

No, I don’t think FF is dying. There was just zero marketing for this coming to XBOX. I think with proper marketing, people will still show up for the franchise.

Yup. The switch to xbox killed it

Final Fantasy free to play battle royal incoming! Imagine the micro-transactions! How many loot boxes to get the Bahamut summon?

These numbers have already been retracted. They’re wrong.

This final fantasy was so annoying. Its starts great and gets more and more generic as it goes. The story goes nowhere

Is Final Fantasy in trouble? Yes, for multiple reasons:

I’ve played most of the mainline series, but haven’t even bothered with XVI because it doesn’t “feel” like a main series Final fantasy game from what I’ve seen. It looks like one playable character, whereas older ones (and even a later update to XV) have one or more full Party’s worth of playable characters. That to me personally is a big drawback and puts me off.
The Final Fantasy VII Remakes initially did well, but seem to be dropping off in popularity. I personally don’t care for them as I’ve played the original, so the story for me has been told and I see no point in spending hundreds of pounds for what will essentially be the same overall story.
Final Fantasy XIV (despite what they say early on in this video) took a BIG hit with their latest expansion, which for me was so bad that I gave up less than half way through Dawntrail. Many, including long-time players complained about how awful the last expansion was, particularly coming after a great expansion in Endwalker.

All of these combined (as well as other reasons) make me think they need to put the series on the backburner for a while, look at the possibility of returning to the old-style ATB or turn-based battle systems of more popular older games.

The thing that shocks me the most is you disliking Rebirth while liking Remake?! How. Rebirth is an amazing game.

16 is below average!!! When did 7 drop? Anyway, I have it on PS and I have finished it.

FF hasnt been good in years. 12 was the last good game. 13 was god awful. 15 was a “push x to win” and 16 is Final Fantasy May Die. FF is an RPG.not some trash action game. And the sales prove I’m not alone on this. The ONLY game I want from SE is Dragon Quest. and from what I heard, they are removing the turnbased. So it’ll be trash too. Persona and Exd66 PROVE turned lovers are still around. Stop destroying our games, Square.

Ff7 rebirth is one of the best RPGs I’ve ever played so I definitely think square can compete at the highest levels.

15 is where they lost the plot and went off track

The api hadn’t updated, it just did earlier and is selling great on the xbox

The japanese market has never been kind to Xbox, and then they want to bitch about sales? Like they haven’t been doing their best to ignore Xbox for the last decade. SquareEnix is one of the worst offenders, and NOW they want our money? Nah dawg, they can keep their Devil May Cry 16 and the FF7 Minigame reboot… Now, if they want to release something like Metaphor or Clair Obscur, I might be interested, but what im NOT interested in is being served years old slop like I should be grateful.

Squenix should know better than to believe XBOX players pay for games. The reason FF has declined is because Square insists on turning their games into action titles. They don’t feel like Final Fantasy anymore.

FF needs to pick a gameplay style and stick with it. They need to keep the 7R gameplay as the template moving forward and use 16’s gameplay as a new IP.

I don’t know why its being made to look like Square Enix focused on the PC with Final Fantasy 16 as if it wasn’t broken as eff from the day it was launched to this very day as just like Final Fantasy 7 remake intergrade on PC they have decided that selling a broken AF game on PC is AOK who knows may release a sequel and then release a patch that barely fix anything again ala Final Fantasy 7 remake intergrade when Final Fantasy 7 rebirth came to the PC which was also broken like its predecessor.

Should have never made it an exclusive in the first place. If people weren’t forced to wait 1-2 years later the hype is gone. Exclusivity hurts games

Okay, what about PC sales? Also, aren’t XBox GamePass sales down in general?

This is old info. Please refresh information and dont trust what only source said

I mean, realistically this should be Part 1 of the grand plan for FF.

1) No more console exclusivity, so that more copies can just be sold in general.
2) Stop ballooning the budgets way way more than necessary.

It’s clearly not dying. FF14 is one of the most popular and lucrative games in the world and they’re about to come out with a mobile version, which will also likely be successful.

But Final Fantasy as a franchise isn’t the powerhouse it once was. It has no identity anymore. All the name Final Fantasy means at this point is the game will have Chocobos in it.

I don’t think it needs to be cutting edge, but players need to be able to think of the name Final Fantasy and at least have a basic idea of what kind of game that means. It’s also that despite FF14 playing very differently to the single player games, it’s still stacked with recognisable franchise elements. I’m not saying it should be nostalgia bait, but it should speak of a certain tone. And it should actually be an RPG.

What do you mean? They haven’t made a proper FF since X

Xbox gamers don’t buy games. That’s why their console is dead

You can adore FF16 all you want. Doesn’t alter the fact that it’s not an actual Final Fantasy game. The FF moniker was stuck on it to trick some poor saps into buying it as a Final Fantasy game. And I’m sure that people who like that sort of game will enjoy it. I like actual Final Fantasy RPG’s. So I personally won’t. Mind, I’m also clever enough to know I won’t before paying for it.

A Shame it’s such a great game

Is FF dying?
Yes

It’s hilarious NONE of these gaming channels can figure out the difference between FF & Claire Obscur: FF destroyed it’s legacy by turning into an action game, Clair Obscur does what FF USED TO DO: make fantastic TURN BASED JRPGs. It’s really not that hard but it is funny how everyone thinks anyone with a microphone has 2 brain cells to rub together.

so yall really think switch 2 can run this when the Series X only can run it at 720p?

The game sucked ass

I tried the demo… I wasnt impressed.

Xbox abandoned their fans

16 has already been out for awhile on playstation and pc so honestly there probably isn’t very many people
Left that want to buy it that haven’t already same with remake plus other than the snippet of the announcement it got at the show ive seen nothing showing its there now to attract people to buy it

I’d love a FFX prequel based on braska, autonomous and jechts journey

Square: No more Exclusives from us.

Bravely Default…Switch only. 🌚

Well..people on Xbox use gamepass… also ff16 seemed kinda mixed with fans since they ditched the party system and rpg mechanics in a FINAL FANTASY GAME. like a final fantasy without magic weaknesses and no party and no rpg mechanics is just devil may cry which well the combat design did work with dmc so eh…

Just odd to me they said they wanted to get the GTA kids with ff16 like what about ur millions or core fans already. And atleast remake had normal FF stuff with a action mix.

Lol sales on Xbox

Good game but not a Final Fantasy in my opinion. It departed from to many of the core concepts of FF. make it turn based and make it an actual RPG not a hack and slash. like i said i enjoyed it but not what i signed up for 5 years ago and that sentiment spreads. it would be like CoD making a life sim, could be amazing but wont sell as well

Little marketing but word of poor performance gets around. The port is dire.

I haven’t cared about the series since X.

a majority of people who planned on playing ff16 already played it on ps5 and pc. i already bought the game twice (once on ps5 then once on pc with the dlc). I think 22k is actually a pretty good number considering its more expensive than what i paid new (i resold it on ebay) or pc (bought on a steam sale).

Ah, yes. A Final Fantasy game gets released on a console not known for it and suddenly it’s ‘dying’ because sales are lower than expected on that console. This is not a reflection of the franchise or the fanbase. If anything, the mistake was thinking that it would be successful simply because of its name. This whole video is free publicity.

It came out around the same time everyone is buying steller blade for pc so that’s why

I mean to be fair i already bought and finished this game 2 years ago on PS – and its long af whenever i do replay it its gonna be on ps5 for the plat, too little too late xbox

I bought a ps5 purely to play Final Fantasy, dont need to now buy for my xbox

I buy games on steam (like ff16) and mostly just play game pass on my console

Yes, and Square-Enix killed it.

FF is dead. Started Dying after 10 and just kept going in the (lets bee as little a jrpg as possible). 2 steps from Veilguard.

Most people that were looking forward to playing it, already played it on another platform. Plus the game is super boring and made for people like game journalists

I hate when they speak like ff7 rebirth and ffxvi are on the same level and respresent the same level of hype!! 16 was a bust for the franchise, its the exception of the norm for the franchise. Even 13 sold decently well and that game took the most risk of any FF game

Oh look many aren’t buying cause if price or don’t have the tech to play it because of other cost big surprises here funny tho since magic the gathering went crazy with the final fantasy magic set it’s been insane so definitely the love is there but man is the game industry nuts

The old guards are dying off one by one.

For me, the greatest Final Fantasy game ever made was FF 1, the original version, for the NES. If they want to save the franchise, I think they should start making the old new again, rather then spending umpteen who knows what money on experimental new versions. Make new versions and spin-offs of FF games that came before. When their sales improve enough for a profit, Then take a chance on something new.

The last Final Fantasy game I was able to connect with and enjoy was FFX. Ditching turn based combat for a more action based system is kinda like if Burger King decided to sell sushi. There’s nothing wrong with sushi, it’s just not what I want when i go to Burger King. Layer that with Xbox being a metaphorical neighborhood that doesn’t have a lot of sushi lovers.

I’ve heard rumors that FFXVI is getting ported to the Switch 2. Anyone else heard such?

No but whatculture is with so much negativity all the damn time

I think final fantasy 16 was a good game but not a good final fantasy game,

I found out this was released when my xbox tried selling it to me. Then I remembered a review about how FF16 is about magical racism and that I was turned off way back at that point.

Makes sense to me….i really had to force myself to finish 16.
To be fair, I loved it for about ten hours or so, but then the shine wore off, as I came to the realization that FF16 is a great 15-20 hour action game with modern (light) rpg elements, that they attempted to stretch into a 40-60 hour final fantasy rpg.

The third act devolving into standard tropes also didn’t help. A mess of a game that was a slog to get through.

FF X was the last game I bought. I do have all the remasters on Xbox. Expedition 33 felt like reuniting with a long lost love. Modern day FF just isn’t FF to me.

I’m waiting for 7 i didn’t get 16 because it looks like a devil may cry knock off

I’ll buy FF7 Remake when it comes out, it will be my first FF. But yeah I’m not buying 16 at £70 for the “Complete Edition” and it doesn’t even have all the dlc and it’s 2 years old and apparently it gets very repetitive AND it runs at 720p sometimes (what year is it?) sooo nah.

If they would release on both systems at the same time it be a different story. Show that you care about all the gamers and maybe they would show they care.

That game came out in 2023 and it somehow runs worse on the series X.
What did they expect?

Games dropping two plus years after the PlayStation release might as well drop on gamepass.

Problem is the FF fanbase is divided between those that love the older games while thinking the newer games are a bit meh. Then the younger fanbase that love the new games, while thinking the older games are good when they try them and come away thinking it’s nice but handily outdated. Thing is both sides will probably never be able to convince the other to see their POV. So naturally sales will suffer because the fans of the older games only give the new games a half hearted try then bounce off them to play something else. While the younger fans playthrough the new games and likely enjoy them more because of the action oriented playstyle that drives away fans of the more traditional rpg style. As for me I guess I’m in-between as I love the old games, but still like and appreciate the newer FF games. Well except for FF13, omg that was trash.

Are there still rumors on a FF9 remake? I heard it come up a few years ago then never again

It wasn’t marketed and expedition 33 has came out since, why would you go back to ff

Meanwhile I haven’t been able to find a hard copy of Clair Obscur for over a month

They need to go back to their roots. They keep pushing the action rpg gameplay, and sales keep getting less and less, yet they cant seem to fathom why. Meanwhile you got games like Expedition 33 booming.

Generic action gameplay with a whole lot of movie I have 0 interest in.

Final Fantasy’s biggest seller, back in the day was either, or a mix of story and/or graphics.
FF7, massive game with amazing story.
FF8, another big game, amazing story, good graphics for the time.
FF9, again, big game with story, and graphics.
FF10 was just next level.
And so on…..
But now with UE available to give people access to tools to so easily be able to make beautiful games, and so easily, you now have a larger number of people that can put their stories into games.

I love the Final Fantasy games, but all they have is their old IP, and that’s only going to last so long.

This game wasnt highly touted for a FF entry🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ those playstation sales are abysmal comparatively 🤣🤣💀💀💀 FF isn’t dying, they jus missed with this 1 honestly

I’ve been playing FF for around 25 years now. IMO Expedition 33 proves they need to reevaluate and think about going back to their roots. What made them a success in the first place.

they need to stop milking ff7 and create hype for new games.

Final Fantasy really could be dying. They keep going against fans’ wishes (remember Veilguard! Nobody likes not being able to control only the main character!), they keep rehashing games from their glory days, and don’t even get me started on Lightning.

Final Fantasy VII (the new version) looks breathtaking. But they retconned it so badly that I can’t recognize it.

That is a shame. I loved 16 more than the completely disappointing Rebirth.

Aside from Xbox being in 3rd place, the JRPG fandom in Xbox is rather small, so its no surprise FFXVI would come this short.

Final Fantasy in All seriousness is chasing trends instead of inventing Them, What we need is a return to turn-based, a love story and not betting the House on graphics with No story at all. Final Fantasy’s Golden Age had charm, humor and fantastic World building… Ask yourself if 13, 15 or 16 had Any of Those.

I think the biggest of multiple factors for FF16 not selling well on Xbox is the mix of how long it took to come out on Xbox and then coming out at full price. Unlike when it first came out on Playstation and Steam, enough time has passed and enough people know what kind of game it is, that everyone now knows if they want to buy it and how much they want to spend on it. If it came out everywhere on the same day, then it gets the “Oh what kind of game is this? I should try it” mentally

Because it’s Xbox? And they hate themselves?

ff7 rebirth is a great game with a million crap games tacked onto it.

MTG FF is selling good

Its not final fantasy, its devil may cry with a FF skin on lol

That’s because most of Xbox player base are on gamepass 😂 that’s what happen when Microsoft has groomed their player base into not buying games anymore.

They went from turned based for like decades to action rpg. Final Fantasy hasn’t been good since 10.

Maybe they should try making an RPG

I mean is it failing? Many people with an Xbox these days are heavily reliant on Gamepass for there games and many games released on the system outside of the latest yearly releases are struggling to sell. It the very reason many publishers are starting to skip the platform because the development cost is greater than what they will make back in sales.

Is what culture gonna have a positive take in the next year?

This Proff why VideoGames will Be Less Epic & More Micro Because FF16 is a EPIC Cinematic Gameplay Unique & Badass! The Only Bad thing about it id that it doesnt have a ps5 pro update

did we forget xbox players don’t buy many games, they have gamepass, and usually stay within that library

“Turn based games aren’t popular.”

Expedition 33 is game of the year.

“Oh…”

Go back to your roots Square Enix. We never left you, you left us.

I’d buy it straight away if there was a retail product. I don’t buy digital ever.

no. xbox is dying

That is one of the best in the series

Mildly interested in it but not enough to over ride over things in the backlog. Will jump on ff7 when it drops though

who tf plays final fantasy on performance mode? its all about the stunning graphics and graphics mode on the series x is staggeringly beautiful and gameplay s smooth so idk wtf you two are on about

Or maybe it’s because it’s available on PC and I’d assume most Xbox players are on PC.

Xbox users have been conditioned to not pay for their games. Pretty obvious.

no marketing and all but it’s thousands more sold on xbox than there were 2 weeks ago so give it a minute. i bought it and it is outstanding and miles better than on the ps5

I can’t understand how they saw how much people hated having only Noctis playable in FF15 and thought it would be a good idea to do it again with FF16

I m waiting for the 7 remake

FF16 was so boring. And not even an rpg.

Final Fantasy has lost its identity. It’s just a collection of cameos and tropes.

Didn’t even know it was out.

Remeber when people said it would have sold much more if it came out on Xbox? Well it wasn’t that 😂😂😂

I just don’t understand why FF7 is going to take 4 separate purchases to complete one game, that originally came out for PS2 as one game. I’m not buying any of them until/unless they finish it. Imagine they quit after making part 3 and how frustrating that would be, and that’s a very real possibility. Stupid strategy in my opinion.

Dead? No. I think the fans on xbox just stopped caring about this game, or played it on another console by the time this came out on the xbox. I believe square made a bad business decision going with console exclusivity.

FF 16 trying so hard to be deep but sadly it only goes deeper as a puddle.
It’s too long and draggy as a dmc game. It’s too short and lackluster as an rpg game. Even the dlc doesn’t add anything worty to be played.

I just dont have access to the next gen consoles. Character designs also have been pretty mid for a while. They all look too similar.

idk when i think of FF it’s associated with Sony and Nintendo

Ff would sell millions on switch, Xbox users don’t buy games anymore

No they released a game idk 2 years later. Most people have played or watched it by now

Switching to real-time combat was a good thing. It let my little sister, who doesn’t really have the attention span for turn-based to experience a brand new, epic story about huge monsters.

I think if they had a turn-based ‘mode’, thatd be a good idea, but stick to real-time combat. It makes the fights actually feel epic. Could you imagine 16 having TBC? How uncool would the eikon fights be? 😂

Also, im not buying it on Xbox too. I already own it on ps5 and pc

FF16 was a fun game, but I totally understand why the usual fans of FF did not like it or avoided it. It’s so wildly different than a FF game that I wonder if they should have made it a new IP than FF. It probably would have done better.

I’d probably have picked it up by now if I knew the release was coming. Shadow dropping was a bad move I think. Got other stuff I bought and was planning on playing. I’m excited to get to this but not “drop everything and drop $70 to play it immediately” excited

Sad, because FF16 is the best FF since FFX

To be honest I wouldn’t blame Xbox owners if they snubbed buying it.

Square Enix has notoriously delusional sales expectations. Over 5 million on a single platform should have been more than enough. FF will never sell like Zelda or The Last of Us

I’d hardly expect Final Fantasy to do well on Xbox, and I don’t have one regardless.

Poor marketing and it’s a FF that isn’t really FF. Remove most of the magic and summon elements and it just becomes a DMC type game, IMO. Good game for what it is, but it’s one of my least favorite games from a FF point of view. Go back to what was SO good!

Ff was, is, and will always be Gai 😂

Problem is it’s not a great game

Ff lost its luster for me when they got rid of the turn based battle system. I have adjusted to the new play style since FFXV but 12 and 13 were unplayable in my eyes… hell 15 almost lost me if it wasnt for the banter between the party members i wouldnt have played that one either

Its just not a good Final Fantasy game. I’ve owned every single final fantasy available in the west, but I wont be buying FF16 and apparently a lot of people felt the same 🤷

*sales on Xbox were terrible.
3 mil sold on ps5.
Anyway Final fantasy started going downhill after 10, especially 13 upwards

Long term final fantasy player. Never bought or played 16 after what they did with 15. Pre-ordered 7 remake, got rebirth second hand and won’t play part 3. The series has changed and not for the better imo. It is not for me anymore. I’ve been having a blast with clair obscur, BG3 and metaphor

I didn’t like FF16, honestly. It was this weird FF where other than some of the common themes related to FF (like summons), it wasn’t a very fun game at all. 50-60 hours in and I have stopped, put it down, and went and played Expedition 33 instead (now there’s a great RPG). FF16 feels like a stripped down DMC, neither here nor there.

Clair Obscur was a better FF game than FF16

FF 16 was a amazing game. AMAZING.

I think most people who love FF, would’ve bought PS early on. That says FF16 has many issues on pc or ps, and i think action style is not what many JRPG /FF fans really want as well.