Which is worse: FF15 or FF16?

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If rather be bad then boring. Yahtzee. Being bad offers interesting perspectives, being boring offers nothing.

15 was literal dog shit, haven’t played 16 but damn can’t imagine…

XV isn’t that bad. Vanilla yes I can understand but royale edition isn’t that bad guys.

I didn’t care for 15. I actually enjoyed 16 comparatively. No it’s not the best but I think like 13 it will have its place as better than the hate it gets.

Man I fucking adore 16. Loved it in a way I haven’t love FF since either 9 or 12

FF15 might’ve been a mess but it’s one of the most enjoyable games I’ve ever played and I’m not even sure why I just felt like the game clicked for me personally I played w the Japanese dub idk if that makes a difference

15 wasn’t great, 13 was good thou. The turn based atb combat required strategy & was rewarding. 13-2 on the other hand fixed everything that was wrong with 13, there were multiple towns, npcs, side quests, basically endless party customization with the monster party system and the battle system was smoother with QoL improvements. I honestly think 13-2 was truly the last great FF released.

15 was super good 1/3 of the game, mid was mid and last part was a corridor run.. overall i enjoyed it due giving me the illusion of “boys road trip simulator” and making memories taking pictures and whatnot.. certainly had its problems but yea.. liked it most out of all the modern new ff games. lightning ones i despise

I think sticking to the main quest of ff16 is pretty interesting and enjoyable, but yeah the side content (esp in the final stretch) almost made me stop playing lol

16 and 9 are the two best FF games and I’ll die alone on that hill

Final fantasy 16 was a blast. Great story too. This guy is just a mouth piece he whines

Who unironically uses words like “soy” in 2025? Christ 😂

16 stands head and shoulders higher than 15 imo. The world building in 15 was terrible, and to date is the only Final Fantasy I’ve never completed. https://youtu.be/v8lvAq_yp_w?si=CFuRh8rYPjmEmcBD said it best for me.

I know that 15 is a very controversial FF game but I will always love it as it was my first FF game but I can see that it has some major issues mostly in its story and usage of characters but i just like the relationship between the main 4 party members

I prefer 15. It was different from the others. It was a road trip with friends in a world that wasn’t medievalish. I like that. I wish more RPGs had the FF15 world look/style to them that modern look with fantasy elements.

I remember liking FF15 only because it reminded me of the show Entourage, which made me laugh a bit.

After all, 3 dudes hanging out with the main guy. Prompto even reminded me a bit of Turtle, being the group’s comic relief.

It’s crazy how terrible your takes are, you don’t even like games you just like what you’re told is good

I mean there are people who are way into someone pissing in their face.

15 is when you not playing the game you only know 4 majn character Freya and that Cid daughter. FF16 you only know clive exist

I wish I heard this review before I bought it when it came to Xbox. I googled it and the reviews were mostly positive.
I played it and it’s a steaming pile of garbage. The story is vaguely interesting but nothing new, the characters are bland and one dimensional, the side quests were boring, the filler quests were repetitive, even the combat wasn’t that great. Just the same loop of eikon abilities till your target is dead. 15 was much the same but the combat was actually fun and was the only reason I stuck around.

I feel like I’m quite done with Squeenix. Too many uninspired projects. They’ve lost their heart and charm.

Aaaaanf those two are gameplay-wise the Best Main ff games😂

Both of them are better than 7R

I love FFXV…. Boys, the characters that is, everything else felt hollow and rushed, the abilities and magic were interesting for a while, the summons were an spectacle.

Haven’t played 15 since I finished, I was a day one player so it could be nostalgia talking. Haven’t played 16 yet I am waiting for the game to go so low I won’t feel scammed😂

Yeah both games could’ve done so much better

16s combat is fun 15 doesnt even have proper magic Id rather play 16 multiple times than play 15 one more time, 15 is a good first time playthrough but if you ever try to play it again after the first time its awful. 16 is just boring with anything that doesnt have to do with the direct main story, cutscenes and fights are incredible but thats all it’s really sad, equipment is fake it literally just gets better everytime you get something new, i guess at least 15s equipment system was more unique?? 16s equipment was so barren and useless.

I actually rather liked 15… though admittedly it didnt really feel like a Final Fantasy game, more just a decent non specific fantasy game. I actually quite likes the combat even if it was jarring at first. Way better than 13s mess of a combat system… ugh.

15 is better. At the end of the day, it had a villain. I like Ardyn and his backstory, though it was unfortunately DLC is good Ardyns history should have been in the full game on its own

I would take ff15 and ff16 over the 13 trilogy any day

It seems like XV relies too much on people watching Kingsglaive first. Which isn’t a bad movie but just kind of weird. XVI is better in my opinion but that isn’t saying much.

I just played 10. Again.

I actually really enjoyed the 16 story, it was the gameplay between that lagged. The bahamut fight was epic in all ways. 15 I really enjoyed the chocobros relationship but my god i felt like i got nothing from the conclusion. Noctis slept for 10 years then he died because….destiny?

I loved both of them. FF15 leveling system was a bit shit, but overall it was good. Really there should only be two FF games we should shit on and that is FF13 Trilogy and FF Mystic Quest.

My man speaking facts. FF finished on X.

The difference is that FF15 is still an offline FF game at heart. You might not live the pacing/vibe/characters/story (which people can say about any of them) but even with the action elements it still has that JRPG feel.

FF16 is DMC, but with all the bosses being FF14 MMORPG style raid bosses, “stand here when the boss turns blue, attack when the tail is raised” etc etc.

That’s what really jarred, as a Brit I quite enjoyed all the characters having regional British accents and didn’t mind the GoT setting.

I’m not gonna hold you, I would choose 16. The epic moments are enough to keep me from blowing my head off and it’s not as cringe as 15. Still bad but at least there is some nutrients to be found in that turd.

So i gotta ask what do you think of world of final fantasy?

16 was great.

16 is really so bad? I didn’t play it, I heard it has a boring gameplay but a cool story, which I think is the opposite of 15. Anyway I didn’t like 15; I think it has some good ideas, but it felt… I don’t know how to say it in english… just meh 😅
Also, out of context, what do you think about Type 0?

Edit: ok, I didn’t know what “turd” means… I’m laughing so hard 😂😂

I much prefer 15 over 16, even if its got one of the worst segment’s in any game (chapter 13? at launch). What I played of 16 it was just linear corridors with occasionally some boring combat. You could at least explore in 15. I know games like 10 are also very linear but I still felt like I wasn’t just going from A to B

Spot on!

Gladio went off to beat up a cripple to make himself feel better. Sure Gilgamesh has three arms out of four, but that’s cripple for his people so Gladio is still a dick.

i mean… my lil twink likes getting pissed on soo idk

16 was a random assortment of cgi scenes and it felt they forgot to put story in between.

Damn you’re old FF 1-9 are bad 😪…. Final fantasy 16 and 7 Remake are amazing

FF15 was too much of a slog for me story wise and gameplay wise. As for FF16, well the game would be better as a movie than a game

Both are fantastic, whoever thinks these games are bad genuinely has poor taste in my view.

Ain’t no mf way you called ff16 boring when u literally fight titan and bahamut. That game honestly has some of the best boss fights in all of gaming. This gotta be ragebait…

Dunno who this guy is, but I’m a fan of 16 à the remakes and getting tired how I’m only seeing his disengenuous (imo) hater clips

Hearing your horrible opinions feels like getting punched in the balls

I liked cooking in ff15. Bro some of that food looked like absolute fire.
And i liked the fishing. And driving down the road listening to tunes. Should that be final fantasy? Nope. But I found things i enjoyed. I put 16 down after a couple hours.

I gotta disagree entirely. Loved 16, but 15 let me down in every way. Combat was too basic, story was too fragmented, and i didnt care about any of the side characters. All gripes that I felt were absent in 16

Man, the only thing I can say in FFXV favor is that the soundtrack is top tier as anything Yoko shimomura makes

16 was boring until it wasnt. It will have moments where you are hollering at the screen due to thr sheer badass or going “this is basically FF game of thrones”. But everytime you arent having those two feelings, you are bored out of your mind. And they killed the only character who was slightly interesting.

Some crazy people like piss on their face. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I loved 15. It wasnt the formulaic ff game and I enjoyed it so much.

FF16 is undercooked in a few ways, to say the least. But FF15 is little more than a collection of assets, and there are specific rooms that were so soulless I would walk into them and somehow be forced to think about how this is a space that developers placed objects in. Nothing has so kicked me out of a game before or since.

15 is a bad game in ways 16 never comes close to. You are given the worst method of character swapping I’ve ever seen in a videogame, watching half an encounter play itself while you wait to play someone who isn’t Noctis. Half the locations have scarcely more context than a random Mark in 16. The structure of the DLC as main menu episodes condemns it to being a story you cannot play from start to finish without removing yourself from the game. Square-Enix may very well never make a more troubled game.

FFXV is better, if they remake the end of the game it would be one of the best. I finished FFXV, watched the movie twice. I played FFXVI for 40 hours and stopped.

Bro is so awkwardly biased against these games. They have their problems, yea. However, they are both great in the their own right, and if you let FF15 grab you, you will actually love it. Obviously he was too salty about the modern direction off final fantasy to let anything like that happen.

i’m currently playing FF16, and i’m liking it. but FF15… thats a disaster on the technical side, and on the narrative side, at every corner looks like you fall in the middle of another story, or even in another totally different game, and not for the good reasons.

i can totally understand people not liking FF16 for various reasons, but at least the game is playable and the story is not a bunch of pieces slapped together with no consistency.

the only part in FF15 where i thought “hey, this looks and play good” was at the begging. after you leave to the water city everything starts to fall apart. from characters stuck in corners, camera issues everywhere, warp strike being the only way to make the less annoying (and guess what? they remove it from you on a certain part of the game). in the end, is like FF15 are undercooked ideas of dozen of peoples who maybe even didn’t talk about how to put those ideas together.

FF16 feels very epic in terms of the eikon fight but the overall pacing was boring af. I fell asleep numerous times doing the regular mission. However its fun as it is especially if youre a DMC fan.

I enjoyed FF15 a little bit more since i had the feeling of exploration and the summon even though a bit annoying for their condition specific mechanic felt more grand. I loved that the lake became instantly frozen when Shiva appeared.

I think tbh none of the mainline final fantasy games have been bad including FFXV or FFXVI. They did a good job of experimenting and adding new gameplay mechanics, a staple of the series. Are either of these games turn based no, but I don’t think Final fantasy’s staple is being turn based it’s trying to innovate and do something new. Both of those games brought a bunch of folks into the fandom who most likely would not of without having real time mechanics, and I thought the unique flavor of each game was a welcome addition to the series. Neither are my personal favorite (that spot being reserved for FFVI) but I throughly enjoyed both games. In my opinion the only “bad” mainline game we have had is FFXI and that is simply due to it being ahead of its time, believe it or not an mmo on the PS2 isn’t the most optimal, but that being said it’s still got loyal fans til this day on its PC port.

Lmao 😂😂😂

15 at least had the open world and endgame had more stuff 16 is just so bland and the exploration didn’t feel like a thing

Ff15 has flaws, many flaws. As a fan of FF15, I fully accept that someone would dislike the game, and I feel many others would acknowledge the flaws they overlook to enjoy it.

To the fans that say FF16 is a masterpiece or its the best in the series I strongly question their intelligence with the bloat and lack of meaningful content that game had.

I think 15 at least had some amusing moments of interaction between the guys. There were moments that actually made me laugh in a good way. 13 was just frustrating, and 16 felt like it never actually got where it wanted to go.

15 was awesome.

15 is worse for me, and it’s not even close. Beyond the far worse dialogue in comparison to 16’s realistic prose and worse combat: ff15 is just an incomplete game.

Even years on, the game does not have the ending it was envisioned and the holes in its story was supplemented by inserting other things to fix them (like the CGI film). Final fantasy 16 released complete, and remains complete.

WHAT?? FFXVI is MUCH better than XV. XV doesn’t even have a proper story, it’s often unclear what you should do next and the battle system is out of control. XVI is well constructed, has a tight storyline with many different locations and feels like a FF game.

Both are bad, though I guess I really disliked the characters in 15 and that pushed me away from even finishing the game, remember back in like FF13 where at least the combat can be fun in that game if you actually branch out and explore your options instead of hitting auto battle all the time, even if the story is jank

I hated both actually

15 :
1) the magic system is non existent, you try out each fire ice and lightning and thats it. I dont use magic the entire game other than the first try.
2) the last few chapters were done so poorly that entire last arc feels rushed and it is not even a complete ending. And heroine is so insignificant that i dont feel her at all
3) combat system is linear that i only use one move which is teleport then strike the enemy while waiting for the ultimate bar to fill up
4) world is beautiful yet u cant just stand and appreciate it because the is constantly enemies falling down from the sky to engage in battle with you

16 :
1) i alnost thought im watching a movie here… 10mins of gameplay…. 5 mins of cutscenes… like 50% of the time im watching cutscenes
2) everything is just…. Done alright… nothing spectacular nothing special yet nothing was bad…. Just…. Too ordinary…

I never played 15 but 16 was downright forgettable. I forgot I even had the game until I saw a notification that my ps5 downloaded an update.

I love ff16

If only FF15 had been half as good as the Kingsglaive movie was lol

I’d always known about final fantasy as a game series, but 15 was my first opportunity to actually play it. (The only thing comparable to final fantasy as a genre that i had played beforehand would be dragon quest 9 and bravely second)

I really enjoyed final fantasy XV at the time, and i still hold it in high regard, regardless of its ultimately unfinished status. The music is slept on i feel, ‘Hellfire,’ ‘Apocalypse Aquarius’ and ‘Magna Insomnia’ are just too good.

I think my favourite thing to come out of that game though is Darren De Paul as Ardyn. I feel he is a really stand out antagonist who i just cant help to smile at whenever he’s on screen.

But ultimately the are better final fantasys. There are finished stories. And there are more realised experiences in the series. In the end, i still hold FFXV in high regard in spite of all its flaws as it was my introduction to the series, and in being my first, there can only be better experiences to be had on top of a game that, at the time, was already rather mindblowing to a kid me.

Omg I’ve been summoned! In my humble opinion, I think ff15 is leagues above ff16. FF15 is a game about going on a road trip with 4 guys of various stages of closeted limp wristed-ness. They all have character and interests, and they grow as people. Meanwhile, FF16 is about the most obvious “plot twist” ever as you observe the main character perform about as well as a cardboard cutout with occasionally extra grumpy eyebrows stuck on for “dramatic effect”.
Keep up the great vids, hope your day goes well! -Your local heretic

But I like 15 and 16, but internet man say they bad, but I like Expedition 33, but internet man says it good, brain hurty

Pissing on face is better actually in this situation. It is over soon and you can go wash yourself. You can’t un-eat a turd sandwitch and it will mess you up from inside. I really hope that eventuall Final Fantasy XVII will go back to the roots.

16 is great, it’s DMC more than a ff but It’s a good game

that was not a good analogy at all that was such an easy choice😂

lol

15 is overrated. The combat in the game especially the dodging was satisfying to play. It’s a game where you kick it with the boys. Not the best but it’s LEAGUES better than the shit show of 16

I couldn’t even finish 15 – it just dragged too much

My take is that FF15 is not a bad game. The story mas mediocre at best but it sort of compensated after all DLC’s released. It was a bad final fantasy game but not exactly a bad game in general. I spent over 400 hours in it and couldn’t really grasp why until I finished it. Exploration was quite rewarding and it had this sense of adventure that I rarely experienced in other games. FF16 story was great but those side quests were a disgrace to humanity. But yeah there are way better final fantasy games but I don’t regret having played FF15 at all for some reason

I personally enjoyed 16, but I can absolutely understand why you didn’t had fun – its definetly not a perfect game.

But 15???? 15 is just a giant fucking mess. The story is split across different versions of the game, an anime, books, a Movie and goddamn unfinished dlc. The Characters are generic af and it really isn’t that great to play.

To sum it up: I think that 15 is just so much worse than 16 or actually most FF games in general…

You are the most miserble person man. Every video I see of you is just bashing FF. FF16 was fucking godamn amazing and realistically should of been game of the year. FF15 was also really damn good despite its internal issues. You also can never give a reason you just say its shit. You say 15 is boring but fail to elborate On why. If I said clair obscur was boring or shit. people would say Im just hating and theyd be right.

Shut up you dork

I only played XV after all the dlc episodes and personally I enjoyed it. Yeah it’s not “final fantasy” but I didn’t go in expecting it to be like the classic games. I liked the main party and urban fantasy setting. 16 was fine but not having a party at all turned me off. My top 5 would probably be XV, VII, IX, VI, X but there’s a big gap between XV and the rest.

Personally i’d rather play 16 > 15 any day of the millennia, it speaks something when noctis is more fun as a guest character in tekken 7 than he is in his own game, I never cared for Gladio/prompto/lunafreya/noctis/cid etc all because a huge part of the story was missing for a movie which was a huge L move.

While Clive was just stuck in this middle of having a daddy bod with this quiet gruff voice which personally didn’t match him with the disney swearing as well but at least the combat is actually engaging and the story is kinda good at points, I actually cared about the opener of the game at phoenix gate, Cid was actually funny and an interesting char (unlike a certain cid in a certain part 2 of the game that LITERALLY PUT SQUARE ON THE MAP FOR WESTERN AUDIENCES) AND Yes while the combat is DMC esq at least DMC combat is good compared to whatever the living ass aids ff15’s was however i can respect that people think both games are complete dogshit.
Ignis carried 15 just with i’ve come up with a new recipe*

Turd sandwich bad, sure. But who’s pissing on your face? 🧐

I love both ff15 amd ff16 your tripping

Why does nobody talk about Final Fantasy 11

You can dislike the combat system but saying FF16 is a bad game is quite delusional.
Is it a turn-based FF? NO, but it doesn’t mean the game is bad at all. FFXV was very flawed probably because they changed vision midway during development and we got a half baked frankestein of ideas.
However both are waaaaaaaay better than all FFXIIIs

Shame so many didn’t enjoy 15. I liked it a lot. I’ve pretty much played em all except for 13 and 16 and I’ve enjoyed all of them

“which one do you like better ?” If rephrased, that would make “which one is … unworse?”
I played neither, i withstood 15min of ff15, and didnt get ff16 yet. Combat was good-ish, but both worlds were just awful (a let-down for a FF!)

Dare I say both games kind of feel like mmo slop quests. Half the quests are go here grab this bring it back or slay X amount of monsters with no quality side quests. It’s like ff 14 has rendered square incapable of separating 14 from 15 16 or even 7 remake for that matter. There are the hook and reel moments that start the games and then they fade quickly left with a ton of filler.

Man I had fun with FF15 , granted I played it later on the PC when it had all the patches and dlc so maybe that helped but I had a blast and played it all in one week. Ff16 even though was beautiful and had great music I couldn’t even finish it.

just play ff10 for the 10th time😂😂😂

Has 13 finally been dethroned from the most hated ff game category lol

I’m so tired of people talk bad about 16 if you like turn based then talk about what you like if I hate turn based then come to shit on turn based games because I don’t enjoy it it wouldn’t make sense right

I saw 15 as squandered potential the story was there the characters were good the gameplay needed more work but it just fell apart under its own weight it felt like

I don’t like either of them but, at least I finished 15

Cannot make a comparison because I never played 16. Yet I loved 15 but I admit that I sometimes love bad games. 15 was a incomplete mess but it had elements I enjoyed. I liked the ‘bros in a car’ vibe and the fact that you could listen to most of the ff soundtrack on the car radio. Yet I will admit this: it is not a final fantasy game. If they put it under another label it could have been better received but the ff title brought it down.

15 was awesome. I think the game would have been a LOT better received if it wasn’t a FF game and had its own identity. Love it anyway

Imo FF16 is the best we’ve gotten since FFX. The story was great right up until around the part with Odin. After that, the writing started getting a bit lazy. I think the main thing that held the game back was the lack of having a real party. At its heart FF is always a story about traveling with your companions and interacting with them in different situations, but 16 didn’t really have any of that. Torgal is best boy though.

Piss in the face isn’t always bad if she’s hydrated enough 🤷🏻‍♂️ 😆

FF16 was so boring, I didn’t even know it released until almost a year later

Now that I think about it, I have played 15 longer than 16. And 16 feels as stale as Game of Thrones after the 2nd season, at least for me it was stale after that when talking about the writing. And 16 isn’t necessarily bad, just too generic medieval fantasy. And the combat and music tries really hard to distract players from the dull story. Square Enix still delivers with the music, but that’s all they can do these days it seems

FF15 was my first final fantasy. I know its bad but ill always love it🙏

16 before that one guy with deep voice dies to me actually has character and heart…..but yeah overall its so flat

16 was mostly just a movie. a good movie but takes a while to get through. 15 was…awkward to play as a straight man.

There’s something about FF BoyBand that I really enjoy but the problem is I can’t figure out what it is.
It’s like eating a supreme pizza – the individual components aren’t my favorite when in isolation but for some reason when you add it altogether it’s enjoyable.

15 didnt feel like an FF game,it was a different game with some Final Fantasy skins slapped on. 16 felt like if someone that didn’t play Final Fantasy tried to make a Final Fantasy game-it looks good on paper,but its lacking the detail and soul that make us keep coming back

The only FF game I ever played was 15. The story was cool, very cinematic, but literally every game mechanic it had felt like a rough draft. I saw footage of FF7 remake and thought “Oh that’s what they thought they were doing”. Idk, this is just a super normie perspective.

I couldn’t even get through the whole demo for FF16. It was so damn boring!

Other then the MMO’s FF 15 and 16 are the only main entry games I didn’t care to 100% or play through multiple times.

15 is indeed very cringe but 16 is the worst possible type of game……BORING.

I liked 16

Amen

FF16 is a fun 10 hour game *crammed* into 50 hours of drudgery.

Golden showers are more mainstream that a turd sandwich 😂

… i bought the delixe edition of 16 when it first came out. Got all the dlc & i havent even went back to it after experiencing 10 hours of gameplay 😬 byt in all honesty, what is a good final fantasy game to jump into? Because so far my catalog of FF games consist of 7 remake and rebirth 12.. which i enjoyed. 15 and 16. So, guide me to the holy grail 😂

😂😂beautiful comparison, I feel like 15 was worse , 16 had some really great potential for story and gameplay but it just didn’t live up to what it could be

I like the story and gameplay better in 16, but 15 had more to do. Like the fishing which I loved. I also like that in 15, you were eventually able to play as the other characters in combat. I don’t like how in 16 you can only control one character always. I suppose that it makes sense since the story really is focused on Clive. But it just felt lacking. Especially after playing games like ff7 remake and rebirth. Plus 15 actually had real exploration, There was cool things to discover.

Yeah I have no idea how they made 16 boring. I couldn’t even finish it

FF 7R & Re : Hold my fking beer

have my downvote

15 sux but is still a final fantasy game
16 is good but more of a dark souls/devil may cry game
So 1s the worst verison of what it should be vs a good game that isnt what it should be😂😢

I dropped both

Unpopular opinion I loved 15 and then they added kingsglaive to kind of expand upon the world. The graphics for the time were great, music top notch… I love harmonicas haha, battles were fast and fun, story was ok, all in all I was drawn in for some reason.

The 4 guys in 15 are actually memorable

I agree FF16 is boring, combat is ok but meh, minimal RPG elements

Dang I love 16 lol and 15 has some strong moments in it. The Bahamut fight in 16 alone was worth the money.

16 has by far the better gameplay – but while I do think 15 has a lot of issues, I loved the boy band. The story is big poo, but the 4 dudes being on a roadtrip, seeing it more like an adventure game, that part I actually really liked. 16 took every single bit of itself so serious, it was so far up its own ass, which made me dislike the overall story a lot.

Ff16 definitely had a better story by far on 15 since it was actually finished and clive was actually a great character

15 and 16 had immense potential.. it’s really wasted potential.
In 30 years time I’m hoping some fan made remake of both will be released. Might be a masterpiece

Clearly never had someone piss on your face

One can only hope that SE will see the huge success of E33 and realize went don’t want more FFXVI. We want more FFX-FFXIII era

I kind of liked 16 but would agree there were some boring moments I really didn’t like 15

Ff16 is good imo, but it’s a dmc game in a final fantasy setting

15 was rushed but the story was there. It just needed to be expound upon.

Im playing 16 rn and the story is really good. The side quests meh, and the combat seems pretty bare. But goddamn Clive is probably my favorite protagonist in the series. You cant say Ifrit v Titan was not just fantastic to watch

I never played any of FF games, which one should I actually try?

I haven’t played 16 for the reasons no one has, but 15 story was so bad, then I found out I had to have done homework before I played it. So I did it after, dident help

for me,FF Dead at FF XII…..

I loved 16 🥲

Sausage party or sad soup?

About a quarter way into 16 and I started just skipping every cutscene that came about. I’m sure it would be interesting, if it only interested me…. But damn, those side quests were almost on par with remakes.
Walk across town, talk to dude, walk across town talk to lady, walk back. Quest over. If you were lucky you got to go fight something . Buy music scrolls … Uhg

FF15 was an incomplete childish meta story wrapped in a very expensive Tech Demo and I can’t understand at all the praise it got.
FF16 tried with the storytelling on the main quest but everything else was either shallow or over(and I mean OVER) animated for no reason at all (even if they still gave a damn “meta” finale again)
I’d vote for 16 just for the complete story and the fact that adults at least tried to talk and behave like actual adults

I like ff 16

I finished 15. I didn’t like it, but I finished it.

16 I didn’t even finish the free demo and thus never bought the game in the first place

15 was thebbuggest disappointment to me. The expectations were so high and it was just a mess. 16 was just devil may cry with a fantasy story. Neither deserve the final fantasy namenin my opinion.

this guy is such a hater bro if its not thr bullshit old ff games he doesnt like shit ff16 was great but whatever to each their own

At least ff15 felt alive. Ff16 world just feels dead.

15 is for me by faaaaar the worse, there are no real Charakters in the Game, the World itself fells like Commercial of its own and the Fighting System is practically none exisitend. I had a deeper and more emotional Connection with Torgal, A DOG(good Boi :3), then with any “Charakter” in 15. Friend of mine told me they cried at the Campfire near the End, and I said “Over what?” I know these Guys barely for 8-10 hours, and what they showed me was basic, cheap, Anime writing 1o1 with minimum effort. To compare 15 to 16 is diabolical and does 16 no justice, it at least had Characters and a decent Plotline and most of all, the Combat was stupid Fun, maybe not deep, but Fun nonetheless. Sorry, got a bit Steamy their.

I beat 15 because of how much i love ff games. I stopped playing 16 because of how much i love ff games. The “darker story” people talked about in ff16 stopped after almost the first scene with his whole team being crushed by a rock. And the story itself was horrible.

As a person who platinumed 15 and 16 i think in 15 the characters was annoying as fuck except Gladius. I liked him. Even Ignis was a so forced serious character.

I personally liked 16 way more because i didnt compared them how not turn based these games was.

Clive and Cid is my favorite characters ever 😀 (except the Prologe Clive.. Prologe Clive is cringe imo)

I definitelly agree that 16 had some boring quests for the platinum but for me the animations and the fights was WAAAAAY BETTER than anything from 15.

I like XV and wish it had all DLC that was planned. The story has so much potential and not exploring Ardyn’s story more in the launch of the game is a major failure! Square has to stop with the DLC BS and sell a complete game on launch. They had like 15 years to develop the game and story! There’s no reason it shouldn’t have been more fleshed out. The leviathan chapter should have been longer as well. Fix those two issues and the game is an instant masterpiece.

Damn am I crazy or something? I thought ff16 was a great game? Memorable? The eikon battles weren’t memorable? Certainly not a perfect game but I didn’t know there were people who thought it was a bad game.

FF16 does have issues but overall is pretty good. Graphics are great, music is epic, they really did Eikons justice. The battle system is fun too…. Is unfortunate the enemies are way predictable, repetitive and die super easily. The sidequests are terrible beyond hope. The exploration negligent. The handholding absolutely insane. I would still place it over 15 though… 15 is just so bad…

if neither of these games are titled final fantasy – it would be a different story. same as how AC series butchered fans expectations

FF16 wasn’t perfect but it was memorable it had a brilliant story music was 🔥🔥 really good characters with good character development and the eikon boss fights were brilliant

See I’ve only played FF1, 2, 4, 7, 10, 10-2 and 13 (and very little of 5 and 8) and the more you talk about Final Fantasy, the more I respect you cause I didnt like where final fantasy was headed either as time went on🤣

Edit: My two favorites are FF2 and FF10

I’m not quite sure to be honest

I liked XV better for sure. Better combat (which isn’t saying much) and at least I like the characters. I hated all the characters in XVI except for Charon and Byron.

If you don’t think of 15 as a ff game but a standalone title it’s not that bad of a game at all but when you compare it to the ff franchise by comparison it’s awful.

15 was boring I actually love 16 but I’m also a big dmc fan so 🤷‍♂️

I dont know why, but I kinda liked 15 and was bumbed out that they didnt outright finish it, it really got better and better with time

Haven’t touched anything after FF12. Feels good.

Oh 15 and 16 there’s nothing wrong with them. Try playing type zero they were fixing 15 but the backlash was way too much and if people give it a little bit more chance also the only thing that I have problem with 15 is why did they add a multiplayer for DLC and then shut that down? 16 not a perfect story but it’s fun and I do like some of the characters I played about two hours back in 2015 on type zero definitely not a fan and the zodiac age was garbage compared to both of those games I rather choose those than the ones that I mentionedboth type zero and the zodiac gauge I would like to throw that in the garbage.

Please there is nothing to save in FF15. Story sucks, combat sucks, gameplay sucks, characters sucks… Maybe the graphics and the music were good back then. But besides that this game is hot garbage. And that’s frustrating because Kingsglaive was an amazing animated movie and got me engaged immediately.

The intro to 16 really grabbed me. Then the combat was button mashy boring and easy. Ex 33 rocks though. Imagine a final fantasy inspired by expedition 33 with old school cover Yoshitaka Amano cover art as its style

Did you play 15 after they added like 10 different DLC? I think it’s quite good if you play it today, which it definitely wasn’t at launch. 16 is fun cutscenes and boss fights attached to completely lifeless and boring RPG.

Agree 100% lol

Oh they aren’t that bad. I really enjoyed both.

Ff16 design is so bland

I don’t get all the gate for ffxv. Ok massive as a ff title. But as a game?

I played xvi. After finishing, the more I thought about the game the more I hated it lol

It had such a strong start. Then what 1/3 the way? Half way? It just dragged then a rushed ending. Ending it just to end. How do we end this game? I don’t know use chat gpt

I didn’t think i would hate a game as much as I hated dragon quest 11. At least dragon quest 11 was god up till the end. Story wise lol. Ffxvi was better in every other department lol

16 is probably my favorite video game of all time

15 had a lot more going for it. An actual party, a sense of journey. I actually really enjoyed cooking and camping as well. As a huge Devil May Cry fan, 16 was confusing. How the director went from the incredible system in DMC 5 to that repetitive slop is beyond me. Oh, and it has no business being in a mainline FF

Can we chose none? Even though I like 15va tiiiiiiiiny bit better

Have you ever tried tactics. Its by far my favorite ff game and its getting a remaster soon.

As someone who hasn’t played any Final Fantasy titles besides 7 Remake, 14 and 16, I thoroughly enjoyed my time with 16, 100%ing it even. It had very accessible and varied combat, a mature and captivating story with incredible voice acting and an insane soundtrack to boot. I did have a lot of gripes with it though. Weapons and armor serving as linear upgrades with 0 interesting unique effects to warrant build variety, accessories being very limited aswell, not nearly enough cosmetics, no multiple endings, no Ifrit combat outside of scripted fights, etc. I understand that within the discussion of turn-based combat’s viability in modern RPGs FF16 can be viewed very negatively, which, given that I’ve now played through Clair Obscur I can totally agree with, but on its own I still think it’s a wonderful game!

I thought 15 was ok and id like 16 much more if it didnt have crippling pacing issues. I think these games would probably be reevaluated more positively of the franchise was just also giving us what we want. Like every final fantasy project announcement since 13-2 has had me going “i never asked for this”

Nah it’s 15 easily

I liked 16 more, some cool bosses and Ultima was okay cool, the combat system was the thing that kept me playing, once you got 3 eikons the game really opened up and “ult chaining” was super cool to optimise

15 sure had more character, but was so meh all the way though (except for some moments like Odin fight)

I really resonated with the bromance of 15. That final camp where Noctis thanks the guys for everything they did for him really hit me

I couldn’t finish 15. And ive said it a thousand times. I LOVE ff16

15 Really was full of character. So much that it actually tricked me into thinking that I liked it. I went back to play it after finishing 16, which is a terrible Final Fantasy game, but plays like a decent MegaMan game, and I put it down after just a couple days. My memories were a little bit off the Marc.

Might be biased but I like 15 it was my first final fantasy that i actually played.

Youre so right.

But did you play all 4 Character DLC’s, watch the free 5 episode Brotherhood Anime, the full length Kingsglaive movie starring Prime time Emmy Winner Aaron Paul and BAFTA winner Sean Bean and read the 408 page Dawn of the Future novel?

Seriously though Square was on some shit trying to fix 15.

Ff16 defiantly has its problems but has some some of my favourite moments in gaming when it comes to spectacles and fights, music to boot to.

XV was disappointing to me.

Most of the time I can tolerate bad gameplay if the game had a good cohesive story, but XV was extremely lacking in both aspects in my opinion, and that saddens me.

It felt like it went through so many revisions that the story was lost in all the padding. The movie, the DLCs, and the shameless Cup Noodle advertising.

Makes me wonder what type of story it would have been if Nomura stayed on the project.

I guess we’ll never know. 😢

16 at least had a way better combat compared to 15

15 wasn’t a finished game, but it was still a lot more fun than FF16. 16 had no character, and I was bored the entire playthrough.

For all of FF15’s faults (And there are MANY)…. It still “Felt” like a final fantasy game…. The ending was kinda awful and sure the game has one of the most boring female characters of all time cough Luna cough…. But at least I can give it a pass since the game was in development hell and nobody knew what to do.

FF16 on the other hand doesn’t have the same excuse as 15 so the criticisms are harsher (and mostly deserved)

I hate that the story dragged out with pointless side quest and even side quest that were mandatory

Not saying these games aren’t without their criticisms but the fact that you can’t like any later entries of final fantasy and go as far as to call them turd sandwiches is a diabolical take.

13>16>15
Im into kpop but 15 went way too far

15 was an incomplete mess on release and required so much 3rd party research(why a movie?!?!) but had some decent moments. I did enjoy the party dynamic.

16 was complete, but besides the boss fights and Cid, was completely forgettable.

Ff15 was an excuse to make a road trip game. The story (or what was left of it) was barely hidden as an excuse. FF16 had an over complicated plot for an oversimplified story. In both game we never understand what is at stake.

Am I the only one that liked 16.( probably because it’s my first and only final fantasy game that I have ever played

I think FF16 is salvageable if you remove the filler stuff. The game has very “high highs” and VERY “low lows”.

You go from moments where you’re like “Holy shit this is amazing” to “Holy shit this is so boring” with very little average moments.

FF16 is very good 25 hours game “trapped” in a mediocre 50 hour game. I still enjoyed it but meh….

FF15 is just a mess overall, but the side activities are much more enjoyable than in FF16 (I mean, FF16 doesn’t even have side activities, unless you count the time attack mode and the fighting arena)

I like the world of 15 but the gameplay of 16

While i think i prefer the story and vibes of 15 overall the gameplay was just so mindnumbing to me so i preferred 16. Also sokens music never failed to hit

Both 15 and 16 got my hopes up for wonderful characters, under developed them, then killed them

16 has better combat but that’s about it tbh. At least 15 had a likeable cast of characters for the most part and the final campfire scene was a genuinely great moment, also it has Song of the Ancients on the radio

The problem with the ff series since 7 is the deadline. 15 could have been amazing, but rushed, like 7, was leaving large areas and storylines missing. This is why the bigger the platform the worse the game and the deadlines are alway the same and the creators have no chose but to chees the game. Verses had high hopes, believe it or not, but half that game is missing.

That’s an interesting take, i wasn’t a huge fan of the gameplay and i thought the way side quests were structured in FFXVI was shit but overall i actually quite enjoyed XVI for it’s story, characters and concepts, i just wish it plays a bit better.

But either way, love your content, keep it up man

I liked 16 better than 15

15 is better, only the first half. The second half, meh, rushed, like they just put all in a bomb, and boom, ending. So many questions. Boom, irrelevant DLC. The ending is just anticlimactic, it can be emotional and touching. Short span to get to know adult noctis, and everyone in future is not enough. Like you play as noctis and the gang for 40 hours, time skip, and in just 3 hours, ending. So sad, it has big potential but delivery to conclude is bad.

FF15 (not the royal edition) for me was a dismal experience both in gameplay and story…all the characters are far too tropey it leaves a weird taste in me – especially Prompto.
While FF16 HAD the aura and grittiness I felt like maybe from the FFT days. Characters were much more appealing – bar Barnabas, perhaps. Combat was passable, some are enjoyable even, although admittedly it fell flat on its face for trying to be a FF game.

But yeah I agree…the last two installments were…sad.

One of the issues I had with FF15 and 16 is the lack of towns/cities. In FF15 we essentially had 1, in 16 we have none. We have outposts sure, but I miss the days of Alexandria, Lindblum, Dali and Treno.

My biggest issue with 16 in terms of world design is that they would build up Clive going to this major city, only to find out that we not only don’t journey to the city ourselves, but also its a set of cutscenes in between missions. We don’t get a chance to free explore the cities.

FF15 because you could actually travel the world on your own two feet (instead of clicking on a map and gets fast traveled to what is essentially different dungeons disguised as ‘open world’) and do stuff that does not always involve getting into a fight.

I really like the road trip aspect at the start of 15 , bu that’s it, the combat is so unfun and boring, the story is a boring mess and makes no sense and don’t get me started about the dlcs…15 made me stop buying new Final Fantasy games…which probably saved me money and much disappointment!

13 was better than 15, 15 was better than 16…
I see a pattern here. 🤔

Ive done the whole 100% completion for 1-13, but 15 no thanks that game sucks too much and 16 I just dont even want to finish because its terrible. So I guess 15 > 16 to me.

I feel like 16 is way better and its not even close. Story is better, side content is much better, in 15 theres a literal war going on and the side quests involve you hunting frogs. FF16 one side quest is feeding a rich dad and his kid to dogs, something they had been doing to slaves. Gameplay of 15 was okay but greatly under realized due to years of development hell FF16 atleast knows what its trying to be. FF16 gets abit boring once you’ve collected all the Eikons but the presentation of the cinematic fights are honestly some of the best in gaming

I like 16 for what it is. However, if I had to make one major change I REALLY don’t like how God basically just overrides the warring nations plot.

16 had so much potential…. Until they decided to throw away their fantastic warring kingdoms plot after you killed titan in favour of barnabus simping for god…. That was certainly one of the decisions of all time

Honestly I think these two are, along with 2, in contention for worst game in the entire series. And 2’s only down there because the most effective way to play it is to spend hours punching yourself in the face at the start.

I guess I like 15 more because it had a proper soundtrack that didn’t just sound like background MMO music for most of the game?

It’s sad to say but 13 was way better than either of these, and we all know how 13 was.

Now for the real question, 15 16 or Rebirth

One thing that i also hate of ff16 is its stick deadlock zones, they are incredibly tiny and it was the first game where i experienced stick drifts, the same issue was with ff7 rebirth.

16 ost is amazing and the story is somewhat decent. They just gotta bring turn based with good story telling and final fantasy could make a comeback

16 is such a snore fest. I tried playing it twice and didn’t finish both times.

15 is good. Whybthe hate for 15? 16 is shite

16 was better but ending sucked ass. All of those fucking side quests just to kill off the main characters? Bruh

I will say FF16 felt way better only because the mainline story was … kind of decent, which is more than can be said for any FF since FFX. But man the side stuff was mind-numbingly boring and the combat was meh.

I just can’t believe we live in a world where FF is more of an action game than God of War and God of War is more of an RPG game than FF …

As someone who enjoy DMC and hack no slash I fucking loved ff16, action was on point, boss and music were memorable character développement was solid

yeah but 15 has ardyn soooo…

16 was incredibly boring. Dozed off several times getting its platinum lol. 15 could have been great. The structure of the story was there but everything was in poor rushed execution. 16 just felt like trying to adhere to devil may cry fans.

Man, your pessimistic outlook causes you to miss out on enjoying things. 16 was phenomenal, and 15 was pretty good. Gameplay wise, 16 was amazing, and 15 was way too simplistic, which made it way too easy, but it was still good enough to absorb me into its world and enjoy the whole story.

16 plays better and has a level of action that makes up for its lack of “final fantasy-ness” but I get what your saying that there’s something about 15 players remember even if it’s a game they don’t like. Ignis is arguably the best character in a game that suffers from an attempt to replicate Western gaming’s DLC obsession which tore that game apart.

I feel you on Prompto. I never played 15 but I think he’s my most opened card from the Final Fantasy Magic set and it’s like; “Dude, stop following me. I don’t want to play 15.”

To paraphrase one content creator I watch, if you had me choose between FF 15 or 16… I’ll kick you in the balls and run.

😢

The thing was I can agree with your opinion BUT I loved prompto I understood who he was as a person cause I felt I was similar to him in some aspects

Easily 15 as Open-World as a concept is a red flag by itself, also the characters are way more boring. Gameplay was worse as well.

FF12 is probably the only FF worse than 15

It’s so painful to get through either of them. 16 at least was fun for its combat, but i like DMC so it tracks. 15 was fun for a few hours but it just becomes the same nonsense. That being said I don’t want DMC in my final fantasy. I hope EXP33 brings in a new era of turn based games. Gamers have only been asking for it for decades, the gaming industry has just been gaslighting us into believing we wouldn’t like that gameplay anymore. But final fantasy hasn’t given us a decent story since FFX.

If i had to choose between 13, 15 or 16, Id choose to watch spirits within

XVs world was a lot more interesting then XVI to me. With XVI, soon as I got to the act where you go to fight Barnabas, I honestly got bored with the game for a few months. DLC brought me back for a bit, but that’s about it. 😅😅

Hands down FF15. Could have been great, but every party member is a trope, and every secondary character is forgettable and underdeveloped (Iris, Cindy, Aranea, Lunefreya for Pete’s Sake, etc…).
Story is a mess (too many visible cuts, not enough backstory/engagement with characters that are not your party members, plot twists are way too previsible, oh and the second AND third act of the game are f**king MISSING); sidequests are actually boring most of the time, and give far too little added context.
Gameplay is okay, but you can feel it’s basically a beta for FF7 Remake/Rebirth and FF16 both (the Eidolons/final boss fight), magick is an ITEM!? (still feels weird, and I’ve played FF8).
Music was nice, but nothing that I remember from the top of my head.
Graphics were top-notch, I’ll give it that, but then again it’s a main FF title, they HAD to be.
Also, worst ending in the story of the Franchise (bar none)

Contrast with FF16, who does everything at least WELL.
Story is good, both main and side characters are engaging (Cid T_T) and you love to hate the villains, main story is classic but good, gameplay is really fun and versatile even if it now completely divorces itself from classic FF fare, Music is fantastic and graphics range from excellent when playing to fantastic in boss fights, and delve into god-tier during cinematics (Bahamut’s fight is just too awesome for words).

So yeah, FF15 is by far the worst. Then again, my opinion.

And if you’ve read this far, get yourself a cookie; you deserve it.

Both had that same energy of “yay we won… but the world’s a post-apocalyptic mess and the few survivors are left to try clean up and rebuild”. You finish the game and don’t feel like your characters have accomplished anything, there’s so much in the aftermath and left unresolved.

FF15 required all this external reading and movies and whatnot to get the full story, while ff16 started to with a bang only to become the most generic quests – new town – quests – plot – new town – quests rinse-repeat.

Neither game did a particularly good job of writing most of the side characters and major antagonists. And don’t get me started on the female characters in both. Clive was too cool a character and too well acted by Ben Starr to be left to rot in ff16.

You know, Prompto maybe cringe and in delusion that he wants a girl instead of Noctis, but his body transformation kinda inspired me to lose weight too. I’d love to one day be a soy as he is 😂

Really? I had the opposite experience. Like, 15 felt like such a nothing burger. I BARELY remember anything from that game. 16 at least has moments that stick out for better or worse

I like 16 so far, but it is a bit generic fantasy overall. Not terrible, but not great either. 15 though is just a butchered piece of a game. Because of so much reworks how it is in the end is just sad. The game has beautiful world, but in terms of gameplay it’s just dead and in terms of the story and lore it’s just all over the place. And the fact that you have to watch anime, Kingsglave, play the game and all DLC to fully grasp the story is not helping. Not to mention weird choice of character development through camps. Though it’s not that bad in the idea, but because camps give you basic exp boost it’s not even an option.
So yeah, 16 maybe on a generic sight, but at least it has a focus and good direction, while 15 is just all over the place.

Final Fantasy 16 had a good story that fell apart at the end and the gameplay got really repetitive.
Final Fantasy 15 had an interesting concept of a story that never reached it’s potential and the combat was repetitive.

I couldn’t get past 10 hours of 15 and then 16 I forced my way through

16 is way better lmao

Certified hater 💯

yo I thought I was just losing interest in games when I got neither into 15 nor into 16, but then Clair Obscur came and I beat the heck out of it, and seeing your review of FF just makes sense. I wasn’t losing interest, it’s the games that weren’t just as good as before.

16s way better

15 pissed me off but i can at least go into detail about why i hated it

16 was so mind numbingly boring that by the halfway point even the kaiju boxing fights had gotten tiresome

I love ff16 idk lol 15 was boring for me.
My favorite game is FF8 though so don’t listen to me 😂

I’ll go back and play I-XII but XIII and on is just where you go “nah once was enough for me.”

FF16 is severely underrated. The DMC gameplay wasn’t quite what I would sign up for, but I enjoyed it regardless. The art direction and graphics were phenomenal. The scale and epicness of the Eikons fighting each other was spectacular. The fight with Hugo was probably the most epic thing ever put in a video game. I dislike ambiguous “is he dead or alive” endings, but overall the impact of the ending was very strong. Ultima was a VERY cool concept and felt very “ancient aliens/civilizations” without being hokey (The Forgotten City is a good parallel for how it made me feel). It also still FELT Final Fantasy despite the dead-ish world. Not the best final fantasy at all, but still a very good game. I don’t get all the hate, but ultimately every argument is taste-based and it’s very hard to come up with some objective measure.

I don’t think 15 is that bad. It’s only flaw is that the main characters are all caricatures and stereotypes. The gameplay and the story aren’t bad. 16 is all style and no substance. Not a single enjoyable quest but it looks cool and the characters aren’t cringe. But I think you’re too harsh on 15. The car is a very cool element in my opinion, the world is interesting, the story is pretty good and the side characters are largely kinda cool. Just the main cast isn’t. I can’t remember their names even. But I still have “There in a jiffy” in my head like 7 years later. It’s such a stupid phrase and one of them says it every 20 seconds it the most obnoxious way imaginable

FF16 probably had the most impactful intro sequence of all Final fantasy series. Then the rest of the game was one of the most underwhelming storytelling.

Especially after the Garuda fight the multidimensional story telling went to a simple and boring story telling.

In case of 15 it had a great story potential. But lack of story context and structuring and poor scene sequencing and conveying the world and it’s lore.

I believe that 16 is a good game, it is slow and time-consuming at times, but it is one of the most epic games out there and that left a big mark on me. To this day I compare everything to the fight between Bahamut and Ultima. It is a terrible FF, it would be something like DMC for the Devil May Cry series.

15 is a travesty that does nothing right. I would rather play desert bus than 15, and I’m completely serious. 16 had problems, but I was drawn in by Ultima and the ending more than anything, even if the journey could be a slog.

16 had such a powerful intro… and then they reverted the impact of it and everything after was generic jrpg territory with amazing spectacle.

15 has a lot of issues but by the end of the game the main characters and their dynamics at least made an impression on me.

Prompto is best boy… Especially since robbie daymond is the va 😂😂😂 leave the sweet boy alone sebby😂😂😂😂

FF15 has at least a playable party. And way better music imo. And I prefer the overall setting by a mile. FF15 or FF13versus had very ambitious concepts. And even though it failed at them, I can still see it.FF16 is simply a game checkmarking a list of things Square believes are necessary to reach a modern audience. GOT DMC FF14 slop.

How is that even a question? ff15 Without a doubt, the story felt so rushed, and they really tried to make you care about lunafreya even though you barely knew her, though maybe thats because of recency bias