8k players a time? geez… pretty sure most runescape versions have that beat…. diablo4 sold like hot cakes at a prison. but it sucks. take the money, create the next project. poe2 is so successful because it took 2 of the greatest games of all time. diablo 2 and dark souls and made something insanely great. blizzard has lost all credibility in making new good games. diablo 4 undoubtedly has made more money than poe2 but thats just for now… poe2 will be generating money for the next 25 years, where diablo4 was a sell, and lose most your audience in 6 months.

Blizzard cant make good games with management on top only caring about $$ and not about the quality and welfare of its people. Thats the difference between nvidia and blizzard. Blizzard at its current treats its employees like dirt, how can you expect them to reciprocate with good contents

The issue with Blizzard is how Disney-fied they’ve become. Imagine how popular Overwatch would be if it had sexy skins and jiggle physics like its competitors, or if WoW was M for mature, or if Diablo was truly dark and horror and held nothing back. We would be in golden age of IPs again

Lilith 1 is a dead franchise. Blizzard is a dying dev at the hands of their own making. Why would anyone want to support them, even if they cut the cost to zero to play?

When you realise a ton of people also play poe with standalone client and not through steam. Steam charts only half the story :’D

So is diablo 4 only bad after 80 hours of gameplay? Im completely lost with all the backlash. Its been a fun game for me though i havent had the time to complete the campaign but im just hearing that its bad when it comes to veteran players that have that time to play a game 24/7. Where as to me, anything over 8 hours of entertainment from a game is worth it to me. Currently at a little over 20 hours…

world of warcraft has no new mechanics visual up grades from games in the 90s man. same thing over and over. diablo 4 same way but worse since you got to start over in ever season? thats dumb to alot of people. warframe is like the only game that keeps updating itself and adding mechanics… like bethesda putting out starfield but its the same stuff from their games years ago. same thing over and over no new mechanics or anything from skyrim. but just more loading screens and they took out executions…. .. gta5 next game is rdr 2. night and day diffence in upgrades and mechanics. thats how it should be dont. u gotta do both….

Best thing to come from d4 was getting me into other arpgs

Buying every expansion for destiny 2 is my biggest mistake, even after they made my favorite titan a cover for an agenda that didn’t need to be part of the universe like dude is a robot Chad killing aliens and stepping on their children and all of the sudden dude is fruity

I enjoyed PoE2 for the content that is in the early access so far. I did pick up Vessel of Hatred and I’ve been enjoying it. I appreciate the fact that the first thing D4 did when I fired it up was offer accessibility options to make mobs more identifiable, the cursor bigger and different colors, and the text bigger. It’s also a nice palate cleanser to not be constantly 1 shot because I mis timed a dodge roll or didn’t notice a bad effect on the ground. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy PoE2, but it isn’t a perfect game.

You’ll see that they will have to make the bosses of the campaign much easier if they want to keep players… Loosing 30% of players over 2 week ends isn’t that good imo. And that’s probably because it’s too complex and builds are totally unbalanced. Why bother with so many builds when 90% are not working and you need to stick to metas to finish the game?

D4 is definitely bottom on my list of arpgs you can play right now. PoE2, PoE, LE, Grim Dawn, hell even D3 is better. Apparently Torchlight is getting better (I’ve never played) and D2 remake too

I’m the popular character this season, grinned gear and still can’t kill Uber Lilith. I’m done with Diablo 4 from sheer disappointments. 😢

I was downloaded it…but I don’t saw first how the game is free just untill 2024 dec 31…all my hours what I put this game went in the trash…I thought maybe I buy it but when I saw the price…nope this game absolute not worth the price!!!

Watching asmongold video for my dopamine hit. Oh. Wait.. damn…

Would you recommend PoE2 to new players?

Well its so f booring to grind same f dungeon to get more power …

Sorry but it’s not free to play. It’s free to try. But still have to buy game if you want it. And not the first time it’s been free to try.

bought the 30$ pack then bought another 30$ upgrade because i have more hours in POE”2 than in D3 and D4 together, even wolcen wich i loved has lover hours by now.

here is the thing po2 is 15$ for my region

D4 is so bad I rather play immortal

Poe focuses on the game, Diablo 4 Focuses on the whales and the crap they can sell you.

D4 doesn’t look worth investing time into. I blame blizzard clowns who shit on gamers

F, shit i paid over 100 bucks for this shit and now its free, i want a refund

So give back our money then !

if i could only put 5,10,15 or 20 hours into a season….
Why would i bother wasting time on D4 when i can enjoy PoE 2? Weird take

Even if they pay me im not comming back

D4 is living rent free in your brain

When the beta release of a game obliterates a full fledged Triple A finished product 😂

Blizz hates their fanbase. It’s so apparent

I don’t agree about new players. I couldn’t finish 2 act with my first char and had to start again. My brother did the same. So no, the game is very hard.

This is the truth people will pay for a good game regardless. I just played stick of truth. It cost me 3 pounds that’s like 4 dollars… Then I found out they had released fractured but hole. But it was 25 pounds for a game from 2018 I didn’t hesitate to pay that for it that’s how much faith I have I will at least get my 25 pounds back in enjoyment of it.

WoW has always been shit as far as I am concerned. Played it when it first released, got a 6 month sub, then let it run out. Checked it out again when they made it F2P to lvl 20, and it was the same trash that it was a decade prior.

Just make it free to play and charge dollars for cosmetics

Buck flizzard, playing hs since 2012 it has always been a bugged af game

POE2 its to much complex and Diablo4 is to much simple.
PEO2:
-To much complexity;
-There are alot of Bugs;
-If this not a pay to win or pay for confort i dont know what is;
-Quallity of story is very confused;
-No suspense in the game;
-Wtf is that skill treeXD

To be honest, I would pay much more to play POE2, and a game I really want to play have to cost over R$ 150,00 to put me off of playing it, at least for a while.

worst 90 euros I’ve ever spent

I really wanted it to be awesome. I paid money in good faith and hoped against the prevailing sentiment. It’s just a huge shame.

D4 player here and I agree. It’s gotten to a point where you have to play HC mode in order to feel a sense of challenge. Softcore feels like a clown fiesta tailored for people who never touched a videogame before. Feels like they have forgotten about their fanbase and are trying to appeal to new players, then try to make it a game for everyone which in the end won’t appeal to noone in long term…

So is ftc gonna sue them like fortnite? Cause I’d love my 100$ back for the pre order. Especially since nothing was exclusive.

Regarding 6:00 and the Renown. It’s not redoing Renown that’s bad, it’s that Renown is such a pain the ass and boring system, but is required for player power.
PoE both 1/2 have players redo *the entire campaign* and it’s both faster and better than Renown. If Renown were a better system, with reputations and proper tools ingame to help, it wouldn’t have been so hated.
The overall point is still true, Blizzard didn’t read the room.

You’re pushing out so much low quality content it’s getting to the point where i have to ignore your upload notifications. Fyi

поувольняли стариков близов в результате засрали франшизы всех игр .

If you cant sell your game anymore, your reputation is down the drain, then you go free2play and try to sell microtransactions, because the guys that payed to play dont play anymore to pay for skins. so they try to go free, to get fresh blood to buy the 60$ Horse. i regret even get the normal version of the game at release, i wish i coud go back in time, and buy some PoE stashes instead.

I was having fun until they released the dlc for a game that did not feel complete already paying 40 more for content is not nice

sorry blizz im going to spend my money for a new stash at poe2

Diablo 4 has no end-game. The difficulty is just scaling ratios up. The game is completely broken and spiritborn can be played by a person with no hands. Citadels are stupid. It requires 2 people to unlock gates and certain boss mechanics, but it can otherwise be soloed.

Diablo 4 did a decent job of the skill tree, but the paragon tree is convoluted. There are no sets, and little item variety. An ideal gearset for a build might have one optional piece

It’s not really F2P its a Free trial….

i just played diablo4 for the first time a month ago with discords gamepass trial promo… knowing that its been out for over a year and has an expansion and has supposedly been fixing it… its not diablo. it plays fine responsiveness wise which is something diablo3 always had over path of exile1 but their advertising of diablo4 as “a return to darkness” its like they thought peoples only problem with diablo3 was that it was colorful. diablo3 items were terrible. the foundation of the game was terrible. the only way to make d3 play well was to boost damage by 80,000% (thats a real thing, not a made up number)

so the items and stat system was flawed but those were the foundation of the game you would have to remake the whole game to fix. so diablo4 decided to reinvent the item system and somehow make items even worse than diablo3. everythings based off these new BS stats. so again the flaw with the game is baked into the foundation so also not an easy fix. you can see the new class is a flawed attempt to fix the issues. You pick an aspect it turns all your spells in the whole spell book into that affinity type so that when you get an item that boosts your damage it boosts EVERYTHING. instead of all the other classes i find so many items that boost 1 singular spell in a tree i dont use? or it will buff every spell in one section of the tree showing that rather than working down the tree toward where the powerful spells would be in every game the games telling me i should be dumping all my points in basic skills? or core skills? nonsense.

i will say opening a chest and having a pile of gold fall out….. feels very satisfying but then you remember gold means nothing lol

Of course there is player retention , NOTHING DROPS! And when it drops its for monk… fk !

does making d4 free to play, make it more POE-like? asking for a friend

I will continue saying it, I regret buying D4 so much, I regretted it when I saw the PoE2 trailer and now that I have many hours in PoE2 I confirm it, D4 is very expensive and I got bored too quickly, PoE2 is just an EA and I am having a lot of fun

I got scammed by Blizzard into buying D4… Its just bad…

Older diablo games was a complete experience. Blizzard made a series games to suck money out of you.

Blizzard should have just made an endgame for D2R with new rune words Uniques and increased difficulty.

30 to 40 hours most people are lucky enough to get 8 hours in per week because they’re busy with their lives live streamers and YouTubers can easily do it

Poe2 vs D4 ?

Not even paying for the Anthem Ultimate Edition felt so awful than it felt buying Diablo IV…

Free ? Still 60$ here

POE 2 lost around 40% of players till this day, even till the day you posted this video, whata are you talkign about? Cannot use filters properly?

It’s not free to play.
It’s a free to try for a couple of weeks.
Even I, who play diablo 4 wouldn’t try the dlc for a couple of weeks only to have the character deleted.

Great player retention! Game is still in early access, imagine when it fully release to f2p players.

I would play PoE2 if they didn’t scam me out of early access and actually responded to my E-Mails.

you think PoE is an indi game? lol. plz, check your informations.

Have to thank all the folks making videos about D4… Considered buying it the last time it was on sale but missed it, and it’s on sale for me again now… but YouTube conveniently put a bunch of these videos on my recommended list. I essentially almost bought D4 out of pure nostalgia knowing full well I would likely not have time/energy to actually play it (or any game outside of iPad puzzle games), so the YouTube Gods have saved me some money.

I regret spending 33 euros on D4 expansion. Finished the campaign and then forced myself to spend another 15-20 hours on it after that which was just pain to play as it was the same rinse and repeat gameplay using “the skill twig”. Hate to see that the game has fallen so hard after D2.

Dopamine hits in D4 is so flaccid compared to slamming a +170% phys on a rare with flat and hybrid already on it. That shit is amazing.

I played the “new” diablo season over the last couple weeks after not having played in over a year and I had a lot of fun. Way more fun than I originally had. The changes to gear and upgrades is so fucking nice, the options of what you can grind isnt bad at all, I actually want to try to get to paragon 300 next season. They’re definitely in need of legit raid like lairs, which I think they’re kind of stepping into with that new dark citadel of Khazra. Or some form of boss rush, or more game modes like infernal hoards. At this point they need to start stealing shit from all the other MMO’s and just sell out and drops tons of shit people can actually grind. The thing is, for true grinders all you have is the never ending grind to make your build better so you can hit a higher pit tier quicker. Like that’s a sad endgame man. I get why people would hate this game if they’re hardcore, but for me as someone who can appreciate a game with such good artstyle and cool characters, I truly don’t think this game is as bad as they’re making it out to be. It’s by far and away better than a year ago.

Blizzard I ain’t playing Diablo4 even if you paid me to play.

Are you kidding me i spent 60 or 70 at launch and now its free like what 2 years later. I will never play thisgame again simply out of spite. Its trash anyway

Nah, I already uninstalled D4.

Half those steam numbers are bots anyway in poe2 hate to tell you ive been botting easy money, never look at steam numbers so many fake acc or 10s of thousands of bots

Poe is trash its a new game everyone excited common numbers, wait months and see. Elder scrolls online way better, blizzard needs to just make a d2r expansion will be number 1 game

My GF asked me while playing with 2 friends “whats the point of this game?” And yet im trying to find that answer, i paid full price on release btw 🤡

Imagine you bought Diablo as a Christmas present. And on Christmas Eve little Timmy finds out, that you gave him a game he can get for free. “Hey, they call me discount daddy for a reason.”

WTF – Why i paid 100$ ? Now im really pissed off – Paid collosal money for F2P game ? scam – REFUND or it should be Class Action Lawsuit….

Blizzard acting like they still release the best games in the world.

blizzard listened to the “player base” while spirit born still gets buffed while all other classes underperforming in non existent end game while you need to pay 50$ more for overperformance in endgame lmao

Blizzard as a company blows!! And their games are less about making a fun and good product and more about being money hungry! Blizzard is just a money hungry company. Trash af.

Bought Diablo 4 huge regret. Last game I’m buying from them. The last Ubisoft game I bought was watchdog two and the last cod game I bought was mw3. Let’s stop investing money on shitty company.

D4 was alright, but that end game was straight booty cheeks. So glad I didn’t buy the dlc too, same price as SOTE with way less to offer. It’s wild how lazy Blizzard is, yet expect to be praised.

Bro it’s just so sad that they threw it away. Like blizzard you had everything. And it’s sad to see them falling apart… Diablo, and StarCraft- some of the best games ever created.

I bought D4 then refunded it the next day

WTF I want my money back

I honestly had fun playing d4 for a couple weeks at launch then it was excruciatingly boring, again had fun for a couple weeks on the dlc, now playing POE 2 and I may never touch diablo again

I’m so glad I stopped supporting actiblizzard years ago. Not a cent from my wallet to them.

Melt like diarrhea in the hot sun, Blizzard. You fucked around, and now you’re finding out.

Cmon man, and they didint even let you play to max level to check out the game. Its free till level 25 and then you got kicked to the main menu. At this point Blizzard is speedrunning its downfall. I guess noone is saying anything about that, because they didint even want to check the game out for free. Way to go Blizzard.

I’ve kinda had enough of people saying how “different” POE2 is from POE1. “Oh it’s a totally different game omg”. Like no, no it’s not.

It’s the same passive tree, same skill gems, same supports, same activities, same trade, just a bunch of shit is named differently. And no move speed lol. Just to be clear I’m not knocking it, I’m still playing poe2 and enjoying it, although almost done with it.

But just remember who’s ur daddy, aight? Lol it’s only Been 2 weeks EA.

I stopped playing and uninstalled the game the second they released the expansion. I’ve given it enough last chances, played the game every freaking season. D4 is complete trash. D3, while not perfect, is way better and is more fun to play, has more blood and gore during combat as well.

New Poe player here. Completed D4 campaign and a little endgame. Took me ages, mainly because i had to talk myself into playing it through to completion.
With PoE 2 I have to talk myself out of playing it so my Mrs can get a look-in with the TV 😂.
Finding it more challenging than D4 but mostly it feels fair, when i die, it’s usually cause I fucked up.

I only got D4 just to say I beat it and then I quit at season 2 just got repetitive and boring

the act one boss of poe2 really made me fall in love with this game its so good and its really polished which is crazy for an early acces

please ggg, buy blizzard

I never had a pc growing up. Never played computer games at all until I bought one myself when I was 22. But I always remembered hearing about Blizzard and how gigantic they were and how influential their games were. They seemed liked such a titan in the gaming world. And now I don’t think I’ve seen anything positive about blizzard and their product since I was legit in middle school. And somehow they’re still here, still relevant. It’s absolutely insane

So uhm.. I played most Diablo games. I REALLY enjoyed every game. I played 2-3 characters. Not to a BiS kinda situation but it was good enough. Then I went on played something else to wait for another similar game. I will see myself playing PoE2 for like couple hundred hours. Its not much in comparison to other players playing for thousands of hours, but I will drop it once I finish grinding and gearing up 2-3 characters to a point where I don’t enjoy the grind anymore. People will drop PoE2 too. Just like many dropped Diablo 4. Or like singleplayer campaign games are losing 99% of their playerbase within a few days or weeks. Thats normal. No one plays the Call of Duty campaign for 500 hours. Well, no one … there might be a few haha.

I quit D4 because I just bought and the expansion was anunce a week after at the same price lol

Gaming is one of the cheapest long term hobbies you can get. If we can look at games as 40 hours of gameplay on average, a 60$ game is a dollar fitty an hour. Cost was never the issue.

payed 90$ for diablo. should have cost only 20 $. there was literally NOTHING to do in this game

The Queen of Filth from act 3 could make a better diablo ^^

PoE 2 is a better game in my opinion.

But people on here are so delusional. Diablo 4 cracked almost a 700,000,000 dollars in sales in a week after launch… not counting expansion sales, and other seasonal contents, battle passes, or cosmetics in the last 18 months….

I’d be hard pressed not to believe this game is in the 1.25-1.5 BILLION DOLLARS in sales.

So no it isn’t a failure, blizzard didn’t release a franchise ending dud. They made probably a billion dollars + on the game.

I hope they do better for future content, but if they dropped support for the game today they did just fine.

I want a refund, I bought the ultimate edition. $130.

I have xbox gamepass and d4 is free but I tried 1 and half season and just it’s not the same over again no progress just constant grind to max level look up what it’s overpowered delete everything and start again. Waited 2 days after pov2 came out, and I just straight bought it bo regrets the first 2 hours I had more fun than 1 and half season of d4.

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Diablo IV for free? Nah, hard pass.
Paying for soon-to-be-free PoE2? Absolutely.

9:38 I mean, I see vulnerable all over the screen, so clearly I see the important stuff. Very important word.

8:50 yes, and annoying, so annoying. Imagine going through the campaign having to deal with neyrelle All The Time. I tried to do it a second time, but couldn’t.

5:41 maybe they were thinking that people love to grind quests in wow classic 😛
I think renown grind might have been ok, if the rewards from the side quests would have been good

What is funny is that all the nerds that played POE1 are now playing POE2 and are acting like it is the best ARPG of all time, and nothing can tumble it down. Most people dont care for a math exam to play a stupid game, just wanna chill.

Feels like blizzard should invite a bunch of hardcore diablo players to be part developers for diablo 5

Oh ma gawd! Free! I should pla–No.

can i get my money back then ? xD

Blizz went cheap = D4. I believe none of any original Diablo 1,2 devs are around. No one from the think tank from, days past, exist within Blizz nowadays, I heavily suspect.

I remember in Classic, when there was a bug, people would meme and say, ‘Can’t expect much from a small indie company.’ But now, I feel like Blizzard is probably the size of a small indie company with even lower revenue. I seriously wonder how they will rise from the ashes.

Hi, im on PC, on launcher.

Everyone who says d4 is good are delusional who wasted money and want there money worth so they say d4 is not bad.
I was lucky that i played only the beta and on a friends account so i dont needed to buy it. Even that wasn’t worth…
Edit: Blizzard make every time so much promises on all there games and every time they ram there fists in our aaaes and then they say “oh we are so sorry we do better” and do the same again to us xD

D4 bad btw

Blizzard is kinda fucked, media-wise. Most people already know that they can’t create enjoyable games anymore. I hope that Blizzard will keep up whatever they’re doing until they run out of money. Also, this video just made me want to play PoE 2 more. GGWP 😂

Diablo 4 is a good game my first arpg but POE2 is another level of good I paid the money and have played non stop you’re right if the game is good no one cares about the money what we want is good games BG3 POE2 bonkers

they have diablo immortal making billions , thats where they focus

I won’t play this game even if they paid me to do so!

Really like your reactions to videos! Can’t stop laughing everytime i see you!

Poe has dated map transitions. Load a map to load a map to load a map.

Camera is too close.

i started playing arpg with diablo 2 and aways use that as reference, poe 2 is like a sequel to d2 but with improvmentes in every front

Azmond, weve disagreed on many things but HOW DARE YOU shizz on Pixar? x’D

Bought d4 at launch def got my moneys worth of play time and fun out of it but it’s clear the path of decline the game was in from the rip.

Lol it is limited f2p as always that we get every 3 months.Why we are looking for cheap sensation.COme back when season will start xD

after playing D3 my expectations for D4 was so low that I didn’t bother buying it and waited for reviews first just to confirm if it’s good or not, and thank God I did!

Blizzard is physically incapable of making a true D2 successor in today’s market. Microsoft has too many policies in place that stifle and limit creativity.

I am in the same boat with WOW (it went downhill after Legion). You can only do the same exact thing so many times before it gets boring (I stopped playing both WOW & D4 for the same issues). True, you could play it for the rush of gambling/looting, but you can do that in better games as well. Going free is a good plan for D4, but if they go free permanently, they should reward people who paid for it (give them a free skin or something). Otherwise, you end up making a bunch of people who already paid for it feel cheated (not a good plan if you want them to use your products in the future). Especially since the competition is a better and cheaper game. Making it free will only help for so long, (GGG are releasing POE2 free once it’s out of early access). So if they plan to do it, they should jump at the chance while they still can.

didn’t played when it costed 79$, not gonna play when its free, gonna play when Blizzard pay me for this

It hit me when you said it should have been more like Lost Ark. I didn’t even think about that. Oh well, too late.

Hello the ingame money give (gold) cost more if you buy 300 too buy the pack support. that good people play a lot go pay some little gold anytime for stash?? sorry bad english french quebec

Can’t worship Satan and think Diablo 4 was gonna prosper. They don’t respect their consumers. Hollywood got a hold of the gaming industry and 💩 s on the “fans” everything is $$$ grab now…

Right now as I’m watching this video d4 has 300 viewers in twitch while poe2 has 38k

Fact that anyone thinks is cuz POE2 is nuts , they do this every year, they did it last year too. Also all discounts are a yearly thing that Blizz does. Also looking up D4 on steam is dumb af, when most ppl play it threw Blizz app. Now all that said I do think POE2 is better atm.

To this day you still cant change resolution without changing it to the whole system. Triple aaa

I totally say what Diabló4 is now. A bunch of greedy businessmen copy and paste things into the game without any professional talent or creative idea of how games work. They just live from the legacy of Diablo2 but they even have no idea what is D2 or ARPG They just bought the license like a sports car and don’t know how to drive, use it, or fix it… They don’t know how to build a sports car!!!! They can’t build a good ARPG like Diablo….

if diablo 4 gets free to play i will want my money back

~19:00 1) Who even reads these articles/ads?
2) Who is captivated by such soulless texts and goes to try out the product due to it?

POE2 has 350k peak now. After 65 hrs its just like D4….out of withc its all classes the same…dodge 1-2-3 repeat.

4:20 He’s describing that the substance is gone and all that’s left is the skin.

I dont play a game to pay 50 euro for one dlc. And poe2 is free if you dont want early acces

Even free i wouldnt go back to it. First diablo was diablo 4 and first PoE is PoE 2. PoE 2 is leagues above

I’d play D4 if it was on 800% discount.

“We do not Preorder”
—House of Biscuit

Only reason I’m not currently playing Poe 2 is because I’m at my in-laws with just a steam deck. I tried it on it and it runs but it’s not the same as my desktop

I wonder if D4 VoH would have gone better if they gave players the Paladin they wanted instead of Jungle Monk that no one asked for.

I never even got a chance to play D3. I bought the game, and every time I tried to download it it would stop at 97%… It didn’t matter whose internet I put my laptop up to. It would stop at 97% every time. I had my money refunded, then when D4 came out, I never even thought about it. I didn’t even get the chance to grow further than D2 resurrected.

Poe 2 comes out, I had it downloaded within 30 minutes and playing just as fast. I’ll gladly send money to these guys. This game is insane so far. And, I have a hell of a lot of catching up to do. Because, I suck. LOL

Yes, poe 2 is good

Da fuq I just bought it

Blizzard should go all-in and make 1 final Diablo game. Hire the best game developers in the country (pay your developers). No number, just Diablo: Flame’s End.

Click to move? Hard pass. Even free is not a reason for me to try it out. I am so glad PoE2 has normal movement.

They can afford giving it for free, actually I would say the bulk of their revenue comes from micro transactions across all their games and the only reason they “charge” for games and dlcs is because they failed to create any new solid franchises like wow, Diablo, sc and on their mind that could prove to the players how much they invested on development and how much love they put on their main (and only) franchises. For companies like blizzard, after such “lineage”, going f2p from the start on one of their remaining “big names” makes them look “cheap” for the player base they think they still have. Thats the only reason I can think since eons ago they discovered the celestial stead that could have been made by an intern, delivered more money than the sales of their dlcs. Also if you think developers have “any say”… you are mistaken, everything comes from the business side of the company, limiting the budgets for each part and what can or cannot be added to the game and these people, the ones deciding, for sure never played shit.

Baldurs gate 3 is gay garbage why million players… diablo 4 garbage, marvel heroes total copy of overwatch garbage with cartoon graphics… every game that comes out these days are garbage dei woke agennda crap not worth playing or the money

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they could have made more money if they make warcraft 4 and starcraft 3 but nope

2 week is free

If u play D4 u can’t play class Mother of the Sanctuary

But u play poe2 u can choose witch and choose Ascendancy Infernalist
Learning Demonic Form u can transfer to Mother of the Sanctuary and say D4 bad ever

P A N I C

I paid monthly to play a good dame for years and i have zero regrets it aint about the money

Ah hell nah man lol. I pre ordered for the 80$ one and they pull this sh*t

poe2 is better, i cant wait for the future of it

im just hoping GGG doesnt get inflated after the success of POE2 and end up like Blizzard/Activision. im currently on a Blizzard/Activision/Microsoft boycott due to poor game development and permanent banning casual players that are just trying to enjoy the dogshit they produce.

Blizzard has been dogshit since the Activision acquision when 95% of the talent that made Blizzard what it was, left the company.

You sheeps keep buying their games. Despite flop after flop, after flop. Jokes on you. 😂

They should pay ME for playing it.

Who would have thought that making a game good would keep people playing it. I thought people needed characters to look like them and know that buying the game makes them superior to people who don’t.

Blizzard has always tried to curbstomp their competition whenever they can. Whenever there is a game that they see as competition being released they always try to time their expansions or big patches to beat them. This most definitely is a direct response to POE 2’s early access.

just want the poe 2 to come free

It’s simple Diablo 4 is boring, slow and it’s just game to help you sleep

Well my rogue had 12k AP, with buffs arounds 36k, now I have level 50 gear and 512 AP. Wtf waste of time!

They’ve literally been giving us free play days and weekends on and off since the game came out

People botting in poe2 BIG time.

I looked at some of the bot/hacker sites. There’s two or three major bots and map hacks easily accessible to the public.

That’s why the numbers don’t go down. Mass of bots farming to sell the tradeable goods. The real money sites popping off for poe2. It’s not an open shared world so no one realizes poe2 is one of the most popular platforms for selling in game items. Poe1 is also big for botters and real money sales on third party websites.

17:35 asmongold is completely right, i’ve never played an ARPG and POE2 has me completely hooked. I’ve dumped 80 hours into it since release and it has been so so so much fun. I was actually thinking of buying D4 a couple days ago and I’m VERY glad i didn’t lol.

“underpowered boss that you can pop open like a pinata” …. if its an ad, why do i wanna play it less after reading that?

I can’t imagine ever going back to d4 after Poe 2. Yea Poe 2 has some issues at endgame but it’s already 10x better than d4 and we know they going to continue making it much better

This game is so bad. If you a fan from day one of the franchise, do not waste your money or time on it.

Eh. It was still worth it to play it. Even if I could have tried it for free I would have most likely bought it.

D4 is still a solid game as the story line, average player like me only buy it for the story line. People expect too much as it has a Blizzard tag on it, lets be honest blizzard is long gone.

All blizzard products in the past 10 years or so seem rushed out, while POE 2 took years of development and feedback

only thing i remember from diablo 4 is that loriath (?) had a really good voice actor

All they’ve done is given everyone a chance to compare a good game and D4 themselves.

They didn’t. You get to level 25band that’s it

Can’t fight path of exile 2

Warriors go hard

When poe2 came… can’t imagine going back to D4… no way.

Developing a good game costs money. Spending money on developing a game can end up up with a game ultimately … but most of all it ends up with the money being spend.

Most people aren’t you, or your peers like World Of T-Shirts, and can’t afford to always pay $70 for every game. Of course its a barrier to entry, you’re just so homestuck and 4chan delusional at this point from grasstrophe that can’t fathom 1 million people is a very small fraction of the 9 _billion_ on Earth. 9 billion that have no idea some hipster garbage RPG even exists… I envy them…

makes me a bit sad. it feels like there is no more magic in this world. everyone seem to be chasing pleasure and power instead of meaning. this feeling i have is the same as when i play clsassic compared to retail. in classic i dont know how to explain it but you can feel the love and the passion, when i play retail it feels like its all artifices

….I had no idea poe2 was also on their own launcher

I’ve got 500+hr in poe1 and I still didn’t know that😂😂😂

I will never get my money back from buying this game

I honestly think the only way to fix the entire diablo situation ( it will never happen ), would be for them to beg brevik to put together his own team as a contractor / third-party to create diablo 3, and pretend 3 and 4 never existed / erase all the lore, everything, and let them continue from diablo 2 LoD. they would also need to give brevik complete control and we would need him to receive a bunch of unconditional money so that he can confirm for us that no one at blizzard is allowed to do anything with diablo whatsoever. something like them co-owning the rights to everything diablo but with blizzard only being allowed to get a cut and their name in the credits. not even them allowed to show the name ” blizzard ” in the opening / intro of the starting screen. it would have to say like, breviks created name, and then it could say, ” in honor of the original / true blizzard ” and then show a gravestone with the birth and death dates of blizzard prior to activision, etc. one can dream.

BUT ITS NOT….. its 30 quid still you lie

D3 and D4 is horrible. Not worth the money. Boring after 30-40 hours. The game is dohs***.

im glad i sold my d4 account for 80 dollars

Are you stupid? It was free to play limited time in the summer.
Also a free trial (limited level) has existed on blizzard and consoles for a long time.

D4 was and still is just Diablo Immortal with out the BS P2W stuff. They used a trash mobile game as the base for D4 and it really showed in the “beta” they did before the game launched. I can’t speak on if its gotten better, my opinion here is purely based on the time i put into it during that weekend. It left a sour taste the same as Diablo Immortal did

It’s hilariously sad we can determine how well a game is actually going based on how many ftp sessions it has. When a game is doing good we barely ever get ftp days, or dbl xp, or sales on the game. Sadly hilarious

I payed $70 for this and played only 3 hours. I feel so stupid

farming content of Blizz = bad. More people play diablo 4 than poe. Poe is a better game for complexity, but sometimes I just want to blast and not think. I play both games and my identity isn’t completely shitting on a game. If I don’t like something I don’t play it like a normal fucking person.

I agree D4 isnt the greatest thing to grace the earth as far as arpgs go…perhaps people needed it to be a titan of the genre and in that sense it dropped the ball. But if you paid 70$ for base d4 played through the campaign and at least 1 season you got your money’s worth. I will agree however that the expansion was absolutely not worth the money they charged for it.

The fact that I bought the original game AND the expansion … and then they make it free to play, feels like a kick in the nuts, FU blizzard… glad POE2 is out

Buying D4 has been a great win for me. Love to play it every oportunity i get.

I don’t understand the hatred of Diablo 4. Ive put many many many hrs into poe2 and I can say that Diablo is definitely more fun, less brutal, and gear acquisition is way more satisfying than path of exile will ever be. Gear actually does something in your build tends to feel more complete a little bit quicker.

Path of exile 2 looks great and it is a good game but it’s too hard for a game that has a cruel difficulty and then difficulty in maps for the base difficulty. Acquiring gear that actually helps your build Is a big pain in the ass and it’s a long long haul for no reason. There’s a lot of unbalances issues with POE2.

Balder’s Gate 3 and Path of Exile 2 are so much better and the reason Diablo 4 even had success is because it came out first.

There is space for both. Absolutely nothing wrong with D4. To be honest I found PoE not as good in re to setting and mechanics and it was as equally repetitive. D4 is definitely more polished. If PoE and D4 are going head to head, D4 will be victorious.

Poe2 was worth more than $90 in early access than the fully released Diablo4. Doesn’t this happen to all the “great” companies of the past that we have admired for so long? They all fall because they lost their passion for making great video games and traded that passion for greed and capitalism.
They have been stuffed full of our money for too long, enjoyed our trust and rested on it.
Blizzard, Ubisoft and all the other we read so much bad news these days it made me cynical

marvel is sucks..😂😂 that game is damn rip off in any level just make the avatar a marvel characters 😂😂 this kind of shet only last for 1week or a month and prayers move to other game until they find unique game offer new..not a fcking cycle of rip off games

Yeah, I love one company make a game that you had to pay for and you had to pay more for extra material to be able to play which that came out to be like I don’t know what $200 maybe a little over and that’s not even including cosmetics And now you’re gonna have the game be free what are you gonna do to give those people that paid for the game unit give them anything special with all the money that they gave you blizzard. No, I don’t think so. Plus why would I wanna play a game where I only got two choices to choose on what I wanna do with my character you don’t fucked up blizzard. I’ll see you where Ubisoft is right now I don’t know in the next 5 to 10 years because you gonna fuck up and you gonna fuck up hard ain’t no if answers or butts about ityou can’t change greed

well the enveloppe of active players is now decreasing. I guess its the endgame that is not very appealing

I didnt watch any information on D4 when it came to beta.
I just had 1000 hours in D3 and liked the rifting and the gameplay, it felt smooth.

So i bought D4 and played the beta. I opened the skill tree and said to myselfe:”nice that is a good amount of skills for a beat to feel the waters, i wonder how many we get when the game comes out”.
Oh boy was i mad when the game came out and i played it.

RIP BLIZZARD RIP…….sigh

Funny thing about PoE2 right now is people are screaming at the devs for making things too hard and insinuating that they never play the game. Then someone links to 3 separate instances where one of the dev reached top of the ladder and they had to move the prizes to the top 2-6 instead.
Yeah, they know the game, they play the game, it’s why they understand it better than anyone but maybe why they don’t see the same problems as others who are complaining.

Diablo 4 need the final fantasy XIV treatment, just remake the game and throw away 99% of the game to the trashcan and bring us what they promised, because right now it’s just a pile of shit with lots of copy pasta environments and bosses where every area and boss feels exactly the same.

Worst part of christmas is that time when you get a present that is… just bad and/or useless. And diablo 4 goes with that tradition. A bad present that some people use puting fake smile to not make someone sad.

PoE2 is fun grind. Why will I want to play Diablo?

Bye bye diablo

If a game has its own launcher and goes to Steam, it’s dying.

If a game has several “free” periods and is a paid game, it’s dying.

Diablo 4 has been on the rocks since its release.

Although it sold a lot, it’s not 30% as successful as its predecessor.

I played it last night, i’ll finish the campaing, but only this.

“you cant see whats happening in D4” yeah cause you clearly can see whats happening in PoE2 :))))))))))))))))))
Basesd on my experience I was able to see much better whats happening in D4 than in PoE2 at least with the builds I’ve played so far.

To play Path of Exile 2 and feel so happy that I’m playing a good Diablo game must be such a slap in the face to Blizzard whose actual Diablo game doesn’t have the same feeling at all.

It seems like in general we are still thinking about Diablo, as if it would be a top tier game in this cathegory, however it may be just opinion based on old games. For me even diablo 3 was not really that good.

A free trial for a season that you’re going to have to end up paying for.. blows my mind :’)

Hopefully with blizzard taking so many back shots right now, they will FINALLY return to the company they used to be.
They should listen to the Riot guy. Stop looking at everything as a transaction. Make us good games, and we will buy them. And play them, and buy skins, and support the game.

Imagine that there are some people out there whos first time playing halo was with halo infinite. How sad

I´m not even trying this out for free. I´ve seen some gameplay footage, it looks absolute shit. I have other games to play right now, i´m waiting for POE2, looks way better than this.

D4 BAD

To be fair I actually liked the campaign of Diablo but the rest of the game including still charging for DLC is atrocious

I think it’s the opposite, making it free on Christmasit’s a smart move…like who tf would want D4 for a Christmas gift? no one lol

Im going to have to delete Poe2 it wont let me sleep. It keeps calling me. My favorite game since Socom 2 on ps2. Facts

And to think i wanted to preorder 😂😂

If they just release a free DLC. Some people might come back. But nah,

Still rather pay for Poe 2 which I did 😂

D2R is better, change my mind

blizzard games are like bacon with too much fat, sure it looks good and you cook it. but it isnt as good as it can be.

Done hoping for blizzard to be somewhat good. They’ve been a disappointment for so many years. D3 was bad but if you compare d4 even d3 was better. Overall the whole blizzard franchise is a shithole 👎 d4 dead d4 bad

i dont use steam for poe, steam is trash i played bo6 on steam and i went to battlenet i got 50% more fps with same exact settings

There is a reason why I and most players I know are rather playing D2, W3, WOW till Wrath… it’s about quality of the game and time I spent playing. I am a grown up now. Dont have the time I had when I was a kid. I now choose quality game and time over everything. And mostly it leads me to good oldschool games, maybe except POE2 which exactly met my expectations, which surprised me and I spent money on it.

if diablo 4 free to play , i will play.

Awe yes Diablo 4; the one without Diablo.

should i buy diablo 2 resurrected instead? since its on sale

I think what it comes down to is this – PoE2 is the result of a dev team listening to players and giving them what they want. Diablo 4 is the result of a dev team analyzing data from player activities, drawing poor conclusions and giving players what the devs think players want. Two contrasting approaches, two contrasting results.

also, why is he checking steam charts for diablo iv, when the free trial is not available on steam?

uh its not free to play

The amount of people saying poe is good because it is f2p unlike Diablo 4 forget that they are already playing a paid game the fact that they came out with a early access for 30$ and have a tun of people playing it it’s no longer a f2p game very few people will play the free version most people that will play this game has already bought bye the time it is free don’t believe the lies this is a paid game estimated 6 months but way more then likely longer then that so either pay the money or miss out for about a year and fomo fear of missing out what the devs are hoping for has you pay them money cause right not act 1-3 plus 1-3 cruel mode and then the maps systems which is essentially the mindless nightmare signals that Diablo was having us do is no were near enough for 30$ it’s pointless after campaign this game is ass it’s boring definitely better then Diablo but end game it’s still to new with no new upgrades that I’ve personally heard of in site to Amp it

They make it free to play because of d5 is coming

Blizzard is like that sad kid at school, who thinks bad attention is better than no attention.

I guess it’s how they make some money.

you can only try it to level 25.. LOOSER BLIZZARD

How about they send back out money. No fucking way they are making it F2P. What kind of bullshit

i wonder if i can ask for a refund?

POE2 is the EXPANSION we needed from DIABLO 2

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD(and he rose on the third day) LIVE IN TRUE PEACE WITH HIM ALMIGHTY

The funny thing is that GGG copied what Diablo 2 did when they made Path of Exile 1. Then Diablo grew away from D2 when they made D3. Then they became even further from Diablo 2 when they release diablo 4. Now PoE2 is a better representation of what D2 was…. Now…. If Blizzard fixes D4 or makes D5 and tries to go back to the way of D2… They’ll just be called a PoE Copycat. How painful lmao

Hate to say it but Diablo Immortal is better than Diablo IV…

I just bought this yesterday 😭

free? its not even a demo, you hit 25 and instantly get disconnected in the middle of whatever you where doing, its not even like wow when you hit a certain level you just don’t gain any more exp but you can still play, move your toon to a safe place and shit, this Diablo free shit was like it really hurts them and they really didn’t wanna do it, you hit level 25 just 10 minutes after starting act 1, so in total you play 20 mins cause the rest is just videos and cinematics. I uninstalled it as soon as I got dced, and you know whos gonna buy that shit? tarzans mom!!!!

thanks for addressing the dopamine hit bullshit

If they make the game and expansion register on steam without an additional purchase ill pick up the expansion. They let all your cosmetics carry over but force you to rebuy the core releases. I just want to use it on steam deck natively but they are wildly greedy

Bait, to hook new fishes

i warn everybody to not go 100% praising POE2 like it’s the best game ever, they are still improving the game and the most important factor is that this type of game that initially gets a lot of praise is usually targeted by consultant studios so they can convince the studio to add some modern audience social identity aspects in exchange of positive marketing campaigns by mainstream journalists. In fact, there are rumors that they are already working with one consultant company right now. So you can expect some pandering in the storyline, in future chapters.

I’m happy that players are enjoying poe2 but imo there’s a big difference between the last three seasons of diablo 4 and what poe2 is. Poe 2 is a great game if you want to think and have to focus on what they are doing but after a long shift I will personally choose over powered speed blasting of d4 over the the exercise in frustration of Poe 2

They need to make Diablo 5 just like ultima online and will be best game ever created

I never played path of exile, but I have to say I’m really loving POE2. It’s like the modern version of Diablo two.

never buy Blizzard game anymore

To be fair, D4 goes free to play all the time to try and get new players. They have always been hurting

0:27
Price of the game is absolutely a barrier to entry. Because you tell me I gotta spend $70 up front to play your game? I’m going to make damn sure it’s good, and that I will enjoy it.

Free to play? Who cares, download it. They drag you on and then hope that a quarter of them drop money weekly and it works.

GGG, FromSoftware and Larian the new top dogs of gaming.

Diablo iv is awesome! I just didnt like the Infernal Hordes season.

This is what you get when kids 2020 making games 😂😂

idk what everyones talking about tbh, i bought diablo 4 full price and have loved every second of it. probably going to buy the dlc very soon aswell.

Hold on a second! D4 is free to play With the frigging Spiritborn class? Are you kidding me? I paid for the Ultimate version, 140$ Canadian! What the hell! ? Not cool.

Is it the full base game or just a portion thats free?

thats me i tried POE 1 and it was just to much for me, i gave up after 10 hrs, just got POE 2, and it is actuallt my favorite ARPG atm. its super nice for new players.

Just to be fair, PoE2 is also a soup of effects rn, especially in end game.

Most of the world doesn’t even have food.
The cost of a game is a barrier to entry.

it is like dev at blizzard got hired then think “Yes, i’ve made it” and then forget how to innovate games, that complacency is what killed the franchise along with inability to release a playable game on release.

hell it was so laggy during the weekends till at times it was not playable but the game is so good that no one wanted to log out and rather toil through the lag.

I love POE 2 but the support has me wanting to quit, I’ll never be buying anything for this game again, I’ve bought coins several times to get cosmetics. And NONE of those cosmetics have appeared in game for me to use. The fckn cosmetics menu doesn’t even exist on PlayStation 5.

It’s not just comparing apples and cantaloupes. Marvel rivals is an arena shooter. It will play retention for a long time. Overwatch has player retention. High number of people play overwatch too. I mean, not overwatch overwatch two a fair number of people playing, especially on consoles and they will continue to play it Even though it’s not that good in my opinion it’s just not that good but it’s polished. It might not be that good. It might not be balanced, but it’s a polished game with some fun to play characters and people will continue to play it on and on and on forever but now you’re comparing story, you know narrative driven games with arena shooters they’re not comparable in anyway not on player retention. Driven games are meant to be played through the story And then again maybe you do it again but how many times you’re gonna do it before it gets boring and OK eventually they’re gonna drop a DLC so you come back and you play through that with each of your established characters or maybe they designed a DLC in such a way that it encourages to start over with a new character whatever but you’re not intend that you’re not gonna play it nonstop arena shooters are meant to be played nonstop with season passes, and new costumes andother cosmetics each season they’re meant to keep you playing forever. Nobody’s gonna play Diablo any version of it forever nobody’s gonna play fat exile forever.

We launch two weeks ago there’s no level of retention. Tell us been out for a month and a half two months you can’t start looking at retention level. I mean when your game takes you 10 hours to complete you can start looking at retention. I will a lot earlier when it takes 30 hours to complete. You gotta wait a little longer. I’m not sure what the campaign case in that game For many people they’re gonna play through the campaign then maybe they’re gonna create a new character through a game then they’re gonna walk away just like they do with the Diablo franchise meant to be a game your wife I mean certainly they would like you to keep playing it forever and spending money buying shit But it’s not that kind of game. I just downloaded Diablo four even with Patrick exiles launching free to play soon I downloaded the trial. I expect that I would never get the try Diablo for but I’m gonna give it a go whether or not their 2000 or 100,000 people playing it in any concurrent hour doesn’t matter in the lease to me because I’m going to play through the campaign by myself. Enjoy the story cause blizzard still I mean they have three story was good well voice actor, but the cinematography was good. It was quality polished. Everything had a voice acted situation. It was fun to fight through the campaign. Do I want to sit there and build up my character beyond getting through the campaign fuck nowmaybe like I say maybe another class one time thing but in a long-term no I don’t wanna do the same thing with the for in fact that I expect that I would never play it but I’ll play the trial free as far as it let me and you know what it won’t matter to me if there are 100,000 people playing it at the same time I am or 10 because I won’t be interacting with any of them.

d4 skill tree is the biggest dissapointment for me

You guys don’t have cell phones?

Let’s talk Asmondg, you been making a fool of yourself over poe2 for last year, really badly though these last few weeks.
Poe2 is not better than DOABLO 4.. no friggin way. Poe2 is a knockoff of diablo4.. poe2 created by copycat cheap devs who took so long to make poe2, yiu know why they took so long, they waited for D4 to see what they had to do to get to the next level to copy Blizzars hard work.
This crap about poe2 free to play.. where? I been looking.. where is the free poe2 to download this 6mth betta?
I watched video after video of poe2 players and ppl newcto arpg games as well, I watched and watched.. glad I chose to be patient and watch.. numerous nerds hating on D4 everytime they talk about poe2.. its like they’re paid to hate, are you paid to make a fool of yourself over poe2 and make sure to bash D4 while you’re at it??? Are you? It’s like insecurity over poe2 standing on its own, so common nerds, let’s hate on D4…???
I look at path of Exile 2 I see a wanna be DIABLO GAME… that’s the truth.
Dialbo 4 has way more polish better sounded (poe.. common they so copy blizzard’s soundfx, make me sick how they copy.. DIABLO been around SINCE THE 90S! SO IT IS POE COPYING.. OWN THAT FACT.. U CLAIM TO BE ABOUT TRUTH.. SO OWN IT!
I been playing the Diablo 4 expansion and I see more polished work, I love the graphics the soundfx the menus… don’t get me started on BLIZZARDS HARD WORK TO CREAT TTHHEIR DIABLO MENU UI AND SOME FKG NERDS LIKE POE DEVS COME ALONG AND COPY IT.. WTF!!!???? AND YOU ASMOND ACT LIKE POE IS THE FIRST TO DISCOVER SLICED BREAD.. making a fool of yourself over a knockoff diablo game poe2 (and one).
If alls you ever did was l9ve poe2 play the poe2 game and praise it.. I would not be saying any of this here.. but manalive guy wtf?

base game is $30 now but boss fight still stucks.
story though is epic

Blizzard is approach to making games lately, is can be summed up to SAFE. no risk taking is allowed. mythic plus when legion released was wild it scratched the 5 man playstyle itch. diablo 4 felt like the barebones and very generic

Diablo 4 is actually top 4 mmo. 68 million players reached. Path of exile 2 14 mil.
Path of exile 1 – 40 mil
Path of exile 2 – avg player daily 500 k
Diablo 4 avg daily player 120 k.

Diablo 4 ain’t that shit I guess but then again.

Development cost d4 = 100-150 mil $
Dev cost poe2 = 10-20 mil $
D4 core dev people – 300-500 people
Path of exile 2 = 100-150 people.

Everything is relative

POE II crushing D4 and Rivals crushing Overwatch were two great gifts this season.

The expansion is free because they know people would rather buy another storage tab for POE 2 than the expansion for Diablo 4.

In general, there are far more game designers who don’t have much understanding of game design or the genre they’re developing a game for. I’d say 90% of game designers follow the wrong principles.

I play Path of Exile 2 on Steam, and it’s an absolutely fantastic game—no Diablo required!

One of the things I love most about PoE2 is how it keeps me constantly engaged. Every 2-3 new areas or bosses, I find myself adjusting my spells, passive skills, and equipment to adapt to the challenges ahead. It’s not just about improving my character; it’s also about refining my gameplay and click routines to conquer tougher bosses.

This constant need to strategize and adapt keeps the experience fresh and rewarding—not just for my hands, but also for my brain. It’s the perfect blend of challenge and fun!

Let’s just say the Spirit of Blizzard has left them years ago and whats left with the was Greed. It Transferred to Path Of Exile Creators, and they are now the gatekeeper of ARPG… Diablo has it’s Glory but like all others, Greed takes over and the creators lost all passion, especially for the fans.

As a non ARGP fan-boy it looks like this: D4 storytelling is much better than whatever POE2 has now (still alpha, maybe it will improve). Blizzard still rules at cinematics and player interaction story telling (although expansion was kinda shit). Gameplay, progression, loot, endgame etc is better in POE2. It’s that simple, you want a story campaign well told and presented, go D4. You want a very good ARPG gameplay experience (although hard) go POE2. And yes, I have 100+ hours in both games.

Blizzard is gonna be on assault on all fronts Poe is beating diablo Marvel rivals is better then overwatch, and wow is now in a week position and with the riot mmo coming i reckon they’ll get beat there too

its not disgusting its peak arpg

I bought the game and left it after a month. F2P aint doing anything. I bought early access, sorry!

Its almost like people are just hopping on the newest thing.

i remember they did a free weekend some time ago. i installed it… have about an hour on it. deleted it and they would have to pay ME for me to play it.

Endgame needs to get better. It’s a bit dry. It probably will.

Getting Diablo 4 on launch was worth it for seasonal content but nobody would ever buy the DLC lol, making it free is logical

The issues for Diablo 4 is 1) too many developers, too many ideas, too many cooks, and 2) the people who want to work for Blizzard aren’t “creatives” they are nostalgists or people looking for easy money, security, and recognition. The game could be amazing… But it’s not.

Diablo 2 w/ expansion pack.. such fond memories
Diablo 2 & 3 .. complete garbage
I will never ever buy a Blizzard product again.

Huge Diablo fan here,after the free Beta 6 hours in i decided not to buy,,so fuking disapointig was so highped,im still sad….D4BAD.

diablo 4 was my first arpg and it made me think maby i just dont like arpgs and now i have a 1000hours on poe1 and 220hours on poe2.

Soft blz 😂

I want to try PoE. But i also want to see Obsidian reduced to a pile of ash and shit stains

Why is the video glitching here and there

when giga-chad rob (D4 Barb) streaming poe2 for hours each day and Elon also spending hours playing poe2 you know there’s a problem for diablo.

I tried it and it was a was scam or felt like it. You can play it to level 25 , but at the end i leveled me up 11 levels after the first mini quest boss and locks you out of the game. I never saw any game to push so much ingame items to buy in your face.

The trial don’t even let you feel how is the game vs strong enemies or boss.

one video of you I watched is about how adds evolve when we use addblock and here we have the example 😀

This is a wake up call for blizzard
Start listening to your customer base and make games that they wantnot what you want

stop saying a game isn’t out. early access is just a marketing ploy. the game is out and they charged you 30 to buy the game. NOOBS

tbh I prefer D3 way more than D4

Bought the expansion when it was released and honestly haven’t played a single minute of it yet. I felt so jaded after all gutting of gear and things that made the pre expansion season so fun and then learned how they were planning on fucking it all up again, I just said fuck it. I’ll see where it’s at in a year.

D4 copied a bunch of last epoch and still bad

0:22 500k just on steam itself. But Johnathan himself confirmed over 1 million key redemption.

There are marketing teams that would give their firstborn for that level or player retention! PoE 2 is killing it!

It’s all about steam.

My buddy who played a little D4 with me then quit ( I played until the expansion) we played POE2 together he asked me what I thought of D4 compared to POE2 and I just laughed we were an hour in

it’s “when”, not “whenever”. you’re making people stupid

Who wants to play a game where Elon musk spends all his fucking time in lmfao

Here is my main problem with Diablo4: there was no Diablo. You make a game without the main protagonist whose name is literally what the game is called.

I would rather pay for poe early access then play Diablo 4 for free.

Game so ass when repeat dev dumb as fk

Good, blizzard is a company that just wants to include everyone to have a good time even the shitty players, and it makes it boring as F and way too easy no ssense of achievment game is dog shit. so is WoW same shit. everything is easy everything is free

Its only 2 weeks in, give it 6 months.

I quit d4 at like level 30. The stats made no sense to me. I didn’t want to get damage increases on a sunday if your enemy was standing in water while the wind is blowing south. I just wanted to do a fireball. Also not single player and the open world was too big filled with nothing

All yall actin like the government is forcing you to play blizzard games lol. they are just video games. We don’t need to analyze this so much. If you like the game, play it. If you don’t, don’t. It’s pretty much that simple. Also, POE2 will become super fast like POE1. Also Also, if Asmon thinks that 90% of players play Bnet, then using those steam numbers, D4 has 550,000 concurrent players.

I stoped playing diablo 4 after runing thru the game in under 4 hours and doing that over and over again exactly the same just harder is lame we have diablo 3 for that….

I bought the game at launch for my wife and I and it was pretty rough. However now that we returned after all the updates it feels pretty good and it’s fun. – mind you the method I’m enjoying it would understandably make it more fun.

I’m aware poe 2 is out. Waiting for it to ripen a bit more. Buying day one is a cautionary tale for me and I prefer waiting till the hype dies down before I jump in. Did the same thing with elden ring and it was sick!

9:09 no, the cinematics are the one thing about D4 you can’t say are bad

Just dumb people would buy D4 when there is POE 2 now.

Blizzard wanted some more ppl t get hooked on this. I personally gave up playing the game, I spent hundred of hours playing this never-ending sad grind of a game. The chance to get any useful items is too low.

Chinese upgrade the phrase Chinese are better than American to a oter level

lol I did not buy it, so if its free I might consider playing it, after I finish POE 2

Activision sucks. That’s why. CoD is next.

I was saving up enough money to buy vessel of hatred to continue the story but from the reviews and state that they’re in right now I think I’m gonna go for POE 2 instead. I even keep going back to Last Epoch rather than Diablo 4. Plus Darth Microtransaction is enjoying it so i think i will as well.

Refund me

The dollar walks, i will happily support a developer if they make a product that is worth my time. paid 100$ for poe2 when i could have played it for free and i still feel like i got a good deal.

Yup. It was their last chance. You know how woke people try to virtual signal others to cancel brands and games? Welp, we as the gaming community don’t give a fuck about that and all the Bliz drama, as long as we get a good value game to play. Like Romans and their colosseum. We know, we just don’t care as long as we’re entertained. Instead, we had to pay to get insulted. I mean, that’s a niche in itself, but still….

An AI could have made a far better story and dialogues than what D4 has

So can I get my money back?

When I watch, people keep pressing same buttons. You can’t even see mobs among all those fires. Mindless grinding

What is diablo?

I hope someone make a Game with the Lost Ark Combat but without the force to Group for Content played over 1k Hours but stopped because my friends cant keep up and quit and i hate randoms PoE2 is at least now a big letdown the combat feels so boring the only good thing is the Bossdesign but endgame and itemhunt is total dogshit

eh i havent played exile 2 due to it costing money lol

Money isn’t a barrier – asmonGOLD

D4 was never actually free, it is free trial. you still have to buy it if you want it after the free trial period.

i wonder what the love child of a hobo and a howlermonkey looks like. enter spazmongold

Im just glad other companies have picked up the torch at least a little bit. PoE 2 is the Diablo 3 we never got. I just wish we could’ve had more years of Starcraft and Warcraft success, those 2 IPs went so hard.

All I wanted from Diablo 4 was Diablo 2 rebuilt as a modern game and expanded. These new arpgs are so boring. I’ll just stick with d2r lol

Lmao i would play Raid shadow legends over Diablo 4 anyday.

Try for free…

every time i try to play it, i slowly fall asleep. I haven’t even completed ACT fucking one yet, and i already maxed skills on my elementalist. it’s just. so. boring.