Diablo 4 Devs Try To Save Their Game
Devs talk about Season 3. Remember guys: this is their LAST chance to save Diablo 4…….
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If it doesn’t have unlimited backspace four items I don’t care about it I will never play Diablo ever again if there’s limited backspace
Maybe in a few years, it will get an expansion and be a decent game
Boosting characters in Diablo is wild.
Will green set items debut in this update ?
Even if it gets improved and fixed, I’m not paying for the season again f that
Too late.
Being a female blizzard employee is an SArpg too
It’s like they’re figuring out how to develop a new ARPG, except it’s been 1.0 for months.
how hard is it to make a fkn trade icon like the inspect shit?
where the set gear at ??? need set gear but kinda rly rare..
why dont they just call it g-rifts?
Anything BUT step back anti-consumer practices.
Nothing big against the people working hard on the actual game aspect of the game, but that I have to say that, says it all.
So, my condolences fam, but F your game, your handlers don’t deserve the IP.
Walk away from that tumor of a heigharchy.
Until you do, you’re literally part if the problem.
RIP Diablo.
…. It doesn’t look like they are genuinely passionate about what they do.
Hiring managers now considered people worked at Blizzard before as incompetent devs, lmao
dude with the glasses hates us all.
wtf happened to rune words, and socket items that actually mattered, the essence of saving runes was so nice in diablo 2, this games not even remotely the same
Do you guys not have knowledge of systems rpgs
man its like they learned nothing from d2 or d3. what a joke the game has become. I am glad they are tying to do something and at least they aren’t trying to sell it as DLC But man what a let down this game was.
Hey look, they played zelda too! lmao @ 1:13:37
“Why does it even exist if nobody cares about it” yeah ask myself that every day
Diablo Immortal is fun to play now haha
TL;DR pl0x someone, waiting for diablo4 to get on humble bundle monthly o7
The higher the ilevel drop should depend on your magic find stat. If you are fighting level 80 mobs with no MF gear, then their entire loot wheel should have a chance to drop, with more items on a lower level being available. The higher the MF stat you have, the more that gets eliminated within that loot wheel.
I think it ridiculous to just want the developer to grant you the best things because you are fighting higher level mobs. Rather, give you the ability to manipulate the drops available within the loot pool.
58:26 Already downloading the game again…
Joe Shelly has aged like 10 years since the launch of D4 man
Poor guy I feel bad for him
the 4 stooges again..
Esu change is good. Aspect will still be bis though to get the attack speed. Hm
All they can hope is they get D4 to near LE quality, yet most of us will just stay with LE so its dead either way. GGs lmao
LEL, how about adding a fucking market?
6+ years and 3 seasons in, and the devs are just getting around to hammering out some of their core figure-this-out-before-you-write-a-single-line-of-code design concepts.
Almost there guys, maybe you’ll have a decent game by 2030 at this rate.
They haven’t had much sleep
So I can buy this game now?
D4 is already dead b4 season 3 started… They said it will be revived by season 2 yet it is still a failure.. they tried it on season 3 and still dead.. they re-introduce the GAUNTLET and it didn’t saved the game… now they are offering another way to save it, do you think players would still believe it after so many failed attempt??? I already surrendered by 70USD payment and will not coming back to this game… but will still be watching videos on what is the development of this game…but not uninstalling it though
Dude Blizz is doing their best to make the most easly game ever made. The game has no challenge and they keep empowering items LOL. Thats what happened when you make hard stuff for everyone … thats how they “killed”wow. GL with D4. Just to note I m a real franchise FAN, I play Diablo since D1 days, drom the start, I ve raided WOW since Vanilla and I can tell you its all about makes everyone to complete the entire game in a few weeks just like kids wants it to. Takecare.
it is called hack and slash game …
dear lord, the game director does not know game genre. hollow knight and hades are rpg? tf
Maybe a new class like a samurai or ronin type of character would be cool
Why isn’t there a WoC on the panel? Just throwing that out there because clearly these guys didn’t think of that, damnit! WoC were some of the pioneers of gaming!
so much love for adam, he has really put so much love into the classes
Took them 4 seasons to figure out affixes
campfire chats are good for the upcoming film, “How Joe Shely got Shellshocked”
no point of ptr if they aint gunna change anything thats ass
First 3mins and they was yapping about a whole bunch of nothing😭
ptrs work well in sc2 so i would expect it to help in d4
Ahem! Sorry had to clear my throat “dont care🎵dont care🎵dont care diablo4🎵dont care🎵 dont care🎵dont care diablo4🎵dontcare dontdontdontdont care dontdontdont dont care🎵 dontdontdont dont care🎵 dont care care carecarecarecare carecarecarecarecarecaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrreeeeeee bout diablo fouuuuuuuuuuuuuur!🎵
is diablo 4 fun yet should I reinstall?
I quit after the first season . I WILL be playing season 4!
They couldn’t careless….. they already made over $1billion and people are still too stupid to see what they’re doing and will keep playing
This is what happens when you play Devils Advocate. You’re not gonna change a game run by a bad company all by yourself. Not possible.
Once your company turns into this, you’d better find a new studio
Wow attempting to listen your crowd when you realize something is missing which is money for you guys. I don’t even play diablo and I hope it fails.
I see why there is a huge Reditt post claiming “creators” want games to fail.
PoE has needed a PTR a LOT of times. There have been a lot of leagues that turned out horrible
they need ptr because they cant figure it out themselves so they need feedback.
So Blizzard finally watched LE and realised that Necromancer can use minions ? 🎉
When are all these changes suppose to take place?
46:30 — “All this is good” NOPE… when there a chance to brick a possibly god item… the games in a bad state. Period…
The pit is just a copypaste of diablo3 greater rift system??
Let me side with Lilith 😡
SARPG? Shit ARPG?
No offense but Diablo was always a looter shooter kill bad guys watching different color loot spray out and then get some story details on the next evil demon or one of your side characters rinse and repeat while fallowing the narrative literally borderlands was originally marketed as Diablo with guns and stuff like that and fully birthed the “looter shooter” genre of games and its supposed to be like a power fantasy with difficult and challenging late game content so why isnt that the formula they are fallowing give us new classes powers weapons dont make the new mechanics a 20 hour trek through the world to unlock a single mechanic thats required to progress the natural content dont take power away from the player until they are ready to sign up for the challenge dont nurf builds restructure your encounters and buff under performing classes its pretty simple right
if you call your game a ‘systems’ game, you have zero idea what experience you are trying to invoke in your audience, or the mechanisms of play your are trying to use to deliver ANY experience.
To quote a wise man, “Do or do not. There is no try”
This man really called a game full of unrewarding, terrible systems a “systems rpg?” Bro, I hope they pay you well to lie to yourself.
At 51:52 Recycle bin has a diablo icon on it, seems about right
What’s weird is that for a game that promotes replay, why make it so difficult to achieve BiS? If you happen to “max out” your character halfway through a season, who cares? Most people play multiple characters anyway. Random loot, and especially random loot with random stats is just shit
Blizzard doesn’t deserv your money.
”as long as it doesn’t effect the game” people say when it comes to micro transactions now imagen if everything in diablo 4 was earnable by ”doing things” how much less dead would the game be? I’m just saying…. even things people think don’t effect a game do so more then they think.
F any cash shop I’m done even accepting ”it’s just cosmetics” anymore and D4 can go suck it I won’t come back even if they payed me.
The only fun way to play Diablo is PTR>AFK>loop, end.
We wanted more Diablo 2 they gave us Diablo Uber dookie 💩 in a Diablo 3 format D3 sucked ass 😢 you guys failed 😞
TLDR: ITEMIZATION STILL BAD.
People need to realize that D4 is a failure because of its marketing and monetizing. The devs in this game that created the game are capable. Itemization and depth is lacking compared to games like path of exile but in many ways, it is better than all competitors. The first campaign playthrough and the betas were amazing.
If diablo was announced as a diablo game with a great story and optional multiplayer and for like 50€ without a shop and bullshit like emotes, people would not have been that upset. World Bosses would be a pleasant surprise, they are a gimmick, marketed as huge things.
Blizzard is greedy when it comes to monetization. Those devs who work there dont deserve most of the hate. Its lead of the company that is responsible for the mess d4 is right now.
I dont like the fact you cant trade Uber Uniques….seriously if I get a UU that I dont need why cant I trade it?
lost interest 3min in – their comparing D4 to elden ring…….. boo. these people don’t play the game and make decisions
MEH!
Its just so frustrating. I was so excited for this game before it came out.
blizzard outright failed since d2 lod released, everyone made a better diablo except themselfs
the Recycle Bin had the D4 icon on it.
YES save xd unstall
No but wow is blizzard…. forget same genre what about same creators
How does one keeps a good faith in this series after D-immortal?
SACK ALL THE PANEL = GAME FIXED
I start Diablo 4 and remember I still have to go get all the Alters of Lilith and I just shut it off.
just make a auction house ffs problem solved.
Y is this so cringe to me? Am I old?
they all look so defeated
almost makes me wanna buy the game now
They called Hades an ARPG. That tells you everything you need to know about these developers…. developers DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!
What distinguishes games like Diablo from other ARPGs is the isometric viewpoint
When the PTR hits, I’ll be watching Asmon, Rhykker, Raxx and DM to see what the changes amount to. If I like them, I might give S4 a go. If not, I won’t be playing.
I absolutely love the sound of every change they talked about but one big thing they didn’t discuss was balancing with each individual class. A big example is the melee builds of rogue being so OP that bow builds aren’t viable and then season 3 made bow builds so OP and then melee rogue was completely useless. Each class needs multiple builds that are meta
Dead game. Hard pass. Too little too late. Not even going to watch this. Enjoy your copium.
Worst game ever.
DEV just make the game FUN! Make it unique and not so job-like type of game.
Asmandgold, like always, wants Diablo to get POE
12:51 ❤❤❤
One of the best videos of the year ❤❤❤❤
When you’re a diablo 4 developer it’s probably not a good idea to mention games like Elden Ring…
5th last chance had me dying as well. The player count drop off after 1 month was probably the worse of any game ever made.
Diablo should try to go full on Helldivers and go 3rd person.
“Small boosts, like 5% extra damage, are really hard to notice.”
Oh really. Not like that was the reason why WoW reworked talents fifteen years ago, yeah?
Also its funny how their font/UI is so bad that each affix still linewraps by like 4-5 characters making it infinitely more obnoxious to read 😂
shoutout to blizz for a game that inspired me to stop playing, go outside, and meet people.
So is the existing gear in the eternal realm built in the old way going to still be there after this update?
on the first comment of not needing a PTR… when the asian gentleman was describing it. he mentioned that it’s used to get feedback from players… which is a freaking lie. because if they actually listened to a majority of us, they wouldn’t have a game that’s collectively believed to be trash
Who gives a crap about items where tf are the cows?
im not sure i agree with his definition of arpg
Lmao 41:29
2:02:45 but you love PoE where a loot filter is so mandatory that it’s built into the console version of the game. I like PoE but I don’t like how I need a loot filter
Still no Diablo in D4?
Nice mobile game port this game has been
Deleting this garbage off my computer once and for good to free up space for literally anything else. RIP Diablo.
Sounds like they’re releasing Diablo 4 v1.0
I was done with Diablo as soon as season 1 came out. They have made Diablo boring and terrible.
The game is trash. World tier 4 is trash.funny how content creators make content about a dead game 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Looks like times are rough for content creators. 😂😂😂😂
Theyre going to fuck this up.
lol the game director is just like, ok boys, im here to learn, while the other 3 talk like they know what theyre doing and talking about lmao
joe shelly probably gets a lot of flack so i get it
Diablo 4 is as fun as Diablo 1, which is a bad thing. D3 had the best game play, D2 had a slightly better story but if i had to Rank them its D3, D2, D1, then D1 again and finally D4. Story was super Weak, and honestly the game bored me. (think they lost some of the things that were great) They should build off of the things that were great, and frankly they did not. they focused on things that were, poor experience. which for some bad idea that added to the core game play. Its the problem with open world, and not on the rails game. Open world games need to make the open world fun. on the rails you focus on the story. D3 did this the best. D4 did it terrible, another game giant that also messed that up was Halo, Same problem. They dont understand what makes them good. Frankly D4’s hype is not coming back. people have moved on and they will wait until D5, and pray they figure what made there games good.
intellect is also not useless for other classes, since intellect is also resistance. strength is also directly related to other effects as well. what are they DOING?
so rogues are only going to find dex on stuff? that kind of wing clips like every hardcore build in existence…
This reminds me of “grandmas boy”
Also, 3 days is long enough to clear all the content of an entire season. You can deck out a whole character in 3 days in hardcore. D4 progression is INCREDIBLY accelerated compared to other games and as a result, this is a horrific idea. And since they won’t respond to the actual imbalances and bugs during the 1 week long PTR, the PTR won’t matter anyways. Think of this as just a way to “discover the bugs you wanna abuse all season”.
PTR destroys launch excitement, and is only useful if the company has snappy response time to balance issues and bug management, neither of which Blizzard has, so in this context, a PTR is going to do nothing but hurt the game.
Looks like I’ll be logging on in a few weeks.
diablo 2 forever
A FEW WEEKS? That’s an entire month!! Never on time, the last update timing was an even bigger joke. It’s not getting better.
while your fixing it make it so you can play offline
People still play this crap game?
Diablo 4 is a POSrpg is the one he was looking for
Diablo devs should get locked in a room just to play poe and borderlands 😆
They’ve had 83 chances but this is the last one. for real. How could anyone believe anything they say after releasing a game like diablo 3? Sadly I haven’t played diablo since one week after D3 released. Diablo is dead and has been dead for a decade. Move on, people.
I periodically come back to check for whimsyshire 😆
It’s Joever.
Blizzard went from one of the best gsme developer studios in the world, to literally the worst developer studio in the world.
Still can’t play the builds I want to play!
SOUNDS GOOD
Only took them a year after release. I’m honestly tired of these idiots ruining every single game they release only to fix it back up years later, I consider them scammers. Not coming back to D4 and not ever buying a Blizzard made game ever again.
Combat, and loot. This is the core of a Diablo game Joe. If combat sucks and loot sucks, nobody’s gonna play that Diablo game. Also your direct competition isn’t Elden Ring, Joe. It’s POE, so how about look at how you game compares to that.
Joe Shely has the charisma of a wet sock.
petition to rework varshan boss fight.
The boss mechanic and hitboxes are simply stupid.
it was pretty funny how often asmon stopped it to say something only for the devs to say the same thing after he unpaused the video.
till they fix there mind set of is diablo fixed enough so they dont need to fix more they will fail
SIMPLE… Season shits and micros (only cosmetics ones) players dont want that shitttt. Players want to pay for a game that have everything. If the wanna make more money.. do DLC that doesnt force people to buy them, to be on the same page.. dont do DLC to make players stronger that players thats doesnt have the last DLC. SIMPLE. BTW Diablo 4 is a hack and slash game with stories.. Doesnt feel as a true RPG game when u kill 10 monsters in 3 seconds..
look like a bunch of dudes who dont like each other and dont wanna be there lol
nah im going to pass again. I rather do yard work then waste my time on this game.
They all look defeated ..
I feel optimistic for the coming season if what they talked about is actually implemented. Shame it’s taken nearly a year. My buddy and I still have fun for the first 2-3 weeks grinding toward 100. Still waiting for Diablo to, yanno, be in Diablo tho.
That dude Joey gave the game designer the yeah right look, and smirk.
So now ill finally buy the game soon
I truly hope they fix this game. I was so disappointed because i wanted this to follow D3.
These guys talk about what the current state of the game is as if they had nothing to do with it, kind of lame…
That initial Blizzard speaker that described “the frame” of the game sounded irritated and rant-ish. He probably needs to move on to doing something other than D4.
Nah they can keep d4 for themselves I’m out.
“what is diablo 4?” -an indie PoE ripoff
What did the farthest Left dude say at 00:22?
I think one of the main issue i don’t see people talking about is that you have this weapon and you want 2 specific stats. First you have to find the perfect item to start your tempering, then you have to hit 1 out of 4 stats 2 times in a row on this one item else its bricked. :s Its a 3.52% chance of that happening or on avarage 1 out of 56 items. This rng is absolut madness if you ask me. 3.52% chance is just to low in my opinion.
but see the thing is that blizzard has forgotten is that the game is trash NOW, not in 3 months, not in a year, it sucks ass NOW. and they have failed to fix it 3 times. people dont care anymore. idc if they fix it and make it perfect, its too late. yall had enough time to listen to your players and work with them. nobody cares anymore, PoE2 and Last Epoch..GG.
Why would a barb only find strength or all stats on his weapons? I mean, doesn’t it destroy possible build diversity?
I bought this game and didn’t even make lvl 100 before season 1 came along and suggested I start all over again….like wtf?
Just look at the way the guy is speaking. No wonder the game is direction less and bad.
calling d4 a “diablo-like” that is hilarious, btw i just realized i didnt start d4 for 6 months now… maybe itll be good in 2-3 years?
there just doing this now so you can buy the ultra deluxe expansion for 130$
Finally couch coop on PC! Can‘t watch this whole thing, but for sure it‘s coming, isn‘t it?
Gamers are angry because Blizzard stole their money ( a lot of $$ )for a novice dev BS cash grab “game” that is NOT Diablo at all.. they are all in damage control mode for the pastyear but you cannot put lipstick on a pig and call it a princess .. it’s still a pig
This game sucks ..
You know your game is in a bad state when adding gacha mechanics improve it 😂
You’re not making an Arpg or an sa rpg. Your suppose to have made Diablo. This game is corporate trash and is nothing. The developers are novices. They can’t understand that what they made is not the fantasy game called Diablo. It’s a joke.
Ok, so D4 released as a sicknote version of D3 release and now they’re trying to RoS it. Fuck this company. They legit released a shite version of a game just so that they can remake D3, 12 years later. WTF is this shit?
This game is just trash. It’s not really Diablo. A complete disgrace to Diablo. A complete disgrace to history. The fantasy game is forever ruined. They all should be fired and an apology should be sent to Diablo 1 and 2 developers.
i liked small numbers better tho, the problem was never that items didnt affect you enough, also i hate big numbers, if you want players to “feel” the upgrade you gotta use understandable numbers 3 digits damage, low 4 digits for the super powerful min maxed damage, hundred of thousands?
Joe’s face is the face you have when you are completely done with the bull shit that is going on within the game team/ company. I have been there.
To be fair, Diablo4 was developed by a small indy studio
these devs have no fucking idea how to make a good game. they should take example from the other smaller devs out there making great games.
Still no using main/ one character theu all seasons bummer
Let me spoil this for you guys. They are going to totally mess everything up in a month from now. Don’t fall for it
Joe says rift at 01:46:44
Hey look! It only took them 4 seasons to make a game ready for launch! Isn’t blizz great? Ohwait….
On a more serious note, It is nice to see blizz doing what they do best. Ninja concepts from other games, and make them cool looking.
Why PTR? because PTR is blizz’s version of early release. One reason Last Epoch was so successful is all that time they had in early release to get feedback and adjust. Honestly, I think they could benefit from another month of PTR, but this is the new blizz, so “release when were ready” has changed to “release asap.”
lmao that guy in the left is mad as fuck
geeze, ive watched more news about diablo4 than actually played at this point. I hope this brings the games bar up, as a collectors edition owner i really just want a dope game to sit back and play. glad to see them working in it
Idk if i can ever forgive blizzard for the POS D4 is…after TEN years they had to develop it
Dead game is dead game
Joe Shely looks like he is having the “Joe B” syndrome,
Did you think I was going to say Biden huh?
Joe Blizzard
I get why they arent allowing tempering on uniques , but i think it would be cool if they gave us a freebie affix slot to change so as to personalize our builds even further.
I don’t know if this is the golden standard nowadays; to hold feature interviews, but it feels really desperate and pathetic to me. If you make D4 GOOD, you wouldn’t need to go do interviews about what you are doing, people would play the f game. Fix the game, give players what they enjoy, and win. What is it with these 2 hour show cases about how you upgrade your gear? This shit should be common knowledge and in game working “as intended” in the first place.
Basically I have very low respect for these developers and I also don’t share Asmons positive attitude towards them. It is taking too long and at this point “if they make the game good, it’s a good thing” doesn’t mean everyone should forget how badly they f up. I mean with their wallets.
They should have drop only max role with maybe 3rd best being craftable. POE does that part right
It really shows that Blizzard lacks and can’t hold talent. Their wages they pay were always garbage, even before the merger with Activision(actually the studios under Activision paid/pay their employee more).
So other companies in the industry pay substantially better and easily poach talent. That happened a lot in the past. Ans i’m not sure the Blizzard of today even gets much talent anymore, because their reputation isn’t what it used to be.
If they can hold some talented people, those are very likely the work horses and overworked and underpaid as well.
No wonder they can’t create good and fun games anymore. Of course there are many more reasons as well, but this one is an often overlooked one as far as i can see it.
“It’s a trick. Get an axe.” Sounds great but blizzard is notorious for selling something that is an amazing feature and then ruining it with the behind-the-scenes systems that increase the time sink and further exploit slot machine mechanics. I can’t wait to see how they ruin the Codex idea with stuff that never drops, things are attributed to “quality” not “quantity” and are based on the idea that any “chance” for something to drop, however small that chance is, is enough of a carrot for us.
41:48 😂😂😂
they aint that good at presenting it would been better if they just go with the flow like “it’s perfect so if you come across thoose kind of crash you can provide us with this part of the report for an easier debbuging on our side” or something of the sort
poe 3.24 comes out this friday btw
lmao they stole masterworking straaaight from d2 cop paste start to finish. not mad..just hilarious lol
which one of these guys you think has been in the cosby room?
Ima try Diablo season 4 when I comes out now
Diablo 4 is doomend, after what is coming from PoE
should be talking about some upgrades to diablo 2 not this diablo 4 junk :/
Listening to these guys feels like listening to someone who develops entirely new game for the first time… not like the guys who supposed to have 20 years of experience and 3 previous versions of Diablo behind the belt…..
look at face of dude at 6:50 with diablo symbol – pretty much sums up their gameplan.
Holy shit the devs looked like they aged 20 years…
Do you think those 4 guys are able to make a good game and are not allowed or do you think they are just not able to make a good game ?
as a dev I hate this, regularly talking for hours to an audience regularly instead of just focusing on the job. they’d be more productive if they just fixed issues instead of talking about them.
Haven’t read a lot of comments, so here’s my question. Is blizzard’s save Diablo 4, plan basically almost the same plan they had in the Diablo 3 expansion? Especially the itemization part. All the pattern seems to me the same as back then.
I’m just awaiting all the crybabies who never got an uber unique to start bitching they cannot get an uber-uber or even a regular unique that tripples into their main stat.
Gonna be hilarious
Change the way you interact with summoning stones already. Make them soulbound so the RMT will stop
Folks can say what they want about Blizzard, but they have proven they know how to finish a game. D4 is a beautiful game graphically and the environments are the best in any ARPG. Look forward to these changes, but in truth I play Diablo for the story. I want the expansions that continue the story and hopefully bring us closer to facing Diablo himself.
The changes coming at least makes it much better.
Love the long-winded verbiage to “explain” their newly-minted bowel movement! Pure, unadulterated b.s. . . .
Last Epoch Devs: “We are huge Diablo 2 fans and want to make a game we feel updates and refreshes the core game loops that made Diablo 2 so great and we’ll keep to that vision whilst bringing in the players for active feedback”
Diablo 4 Devs: “We want to reinvent Diablo but don’t really have a clear vision on WTF our game is meant to be when it’s not sticking to the established game loops old Diablo cemented. It doesn’t matter what our players our feeding back they want from their experience because we’re trying to reinvent the wheel here. But actually that Last Epoch game is drawing a lot of our primary casual target audience away so let’s head more in that direction for now to try avoid further player leakage”
Congratulations Blizzard, it took you over half a decade of development time, millions of dollars, a post-release blind fumbling around the place repeating the same mistake over and over and all the while pushing for paid expansion releases before even locking down your core game…… to eventually realise that the direction to take Diablo 4 is in the direction of Diablo.
It’s kind of a shame it took feeling like you had actual competition taking away your ultra-casual audience for that realisation that the best way to make a good Diablo game is to make a Diablo game to actually sink in though.
Am I not getting something? Isnt the fact that there will be “greater” modifiers mean that you would never want an ancestral item without them? in which case even if you are not getting sacred items anymore, you would still get ancestral ones without a “greater” modifier, which would also be considered junk when minmaxing.
Haven’t they just pushed the same problem one step further?
They can speak alllllll they want about the systems and gameplay mechanics etc. But actually it’s all about that microtransactions are priority to them over generating good looking mog’s and actual game content. This is not even developers fault. Call to prioritize microtransaction bullshit over actual game is driven by corporate lead.
4 circus clowns
I think he’s going to O, but a week after release he’ll be on here ripping the game like he always does.
They made Uniques shit. Good job.
Give us your feedback = Do our job
Why do Blizzard feel they need a PTR for Diablo 4? Maybe they’re realising how disconnected they are from the community with decisions made on the direction of things
They’re probably putting a PTR to do changes before the patch goes live just in case people aren’t receptive to changes.
More like an EssayRPG. It’s about as fun as writing an Essay.
Alo devs !!! Make the damn events to scale with lvl …i have a life i cant lvl 100 instantly
I dont understand blizzard ptr’s, they never listen to feedback anyway. Its just a stalling tactics at this point.
SA-RPG… stop putting a label on it & just make a fun game that doesn’t get boring after 1 day.
Gaming is atrocious these days. & this Shely guy is nuts, he should go hang out with Todd Howard.
Honestly I thought last season was pretty fun, I only leveled 1 character but still. Every other season there’s enough extra content to make it worth playing. I’ll definitely play Season 4, should be interesting.
nomore diablo like game, now is POE like game.
the problem is, I’ve deleted the game and cant be bothered to try it again even if these are good updates
D4 W
Rejoicing when an arpg company decides to focus on making itemisation not suck is like being excited when a car manufacturer decides to put a steering wheel in their car. Clown devs
losers are on the path to praise the blizzard again becouse they are trying to fix his own game xDDDDD
The changes they are making are common sense. That time could have been used to actually make end game content if it was implemented in the first place.
im gonna be honest. i didnt care at all about D4 Launch and all the seasons up to today. but with all these changes im feeling like play it. but only after seeing how goes this season. but feels like r in a better direction now.
5th Last Chance Faf.😂😂
Jesus just let the game die already.
This was hilarious 😂
what’s the bet they nerf all the item stuff into the ground before live
tl, dr: no. The point they don’t get: they act as they are actually talking about a good game that gets some improvements. 🤷♀
maybe im gonna buy this game after season 10
theres a lot to talk about so we’ll move briskly, continues to meander about telling us what we’re going to talk abotu instead of just talking about it
This is insane
they all look so demoralised
It all looks cool. It’s just funny that they use their previous bad content as a comparison to glow up “pits” when it’s really just GRs.
Changes look awesome so far, agree on that with asmon. So many haters in the comments 😅
the guy on the left with the beard seems pissy at the start?
Pit looks boring, at least change scenery it looks like any other dung, or make night dung them endless.
Can we PLEASE make a video about how they’re talking crap about their own game? Literally they say negative after negative thing about their own design???
I wonder how many of those guys go home and play PoE. HAHAHA
Sorry Joe, diablo has become so irrelevant its not worthy of naming a whole genre after it. This isnt dark souls, and by the way theres already a genre for these types of games its called dungeon crawlers
Billion dollar game struggling worse than a crack head getting his fix.
Their everything is toooo analytical. They are missing inspiration, passion, or anything at all inspiring from a gamer perspective.
ok maybe i will play it
POE 2 Next
Damage limitations.
PTR, (parents,teacher ,relations), bollocks if u ask me.
When are gamers going to say enough is enough and make a stand.
game will forever be trash, went away from the d2 system which is what made diablo so great and they keep adding fuel to the fire…
I almost want to buy this.
just give up on that game for god sake. it is hopeless
They should have just played Project Diablo 2, and gone ‘Oh cool, that with better graphics’
Get rid of “seasons” in all Blizzard games. You think you want planned obsolescence built into your account progression, but you don’t.
Again no Lootfilter?
calling hollow an ARPG. But why?
HALP!!!!!!!
d4 berry bat
Too little too late! Never going back to this trash game that milked my wallet with lies.
PTR – (do are job for free) bug/balance checking. am i wrong?
Gamers: This isn’t fun.
Blizzard: More rifts!
So many layers of RNG just to get a good piece of gear with the right stats….
All the devs will get laid off/fired and they’ll have to learn the same lessons in d5 in 5 years
It’s about time. The hyper specific affixes drove me nuts. Like the Diablo 2 itemization was awesome, there were fun affixes and plenty of fun uses for most of them
Backtracking to pickup cinders in helltides is still there? Come on…
Looks like the real Diablo 4 is about to launch in May…. I was in the “beta” during season one and prior and quit until the actual launch, becaus of the state in which the game was in. But the things they said here are 99% going to make me try the game again.
I feel bad for Joe, the man clearly doesn’t like ARPG.
Break the cycle. There are more games out there today, why give A.Blizz more chances?? Why support bad behavior or poor business practices?? Its like that saying.. “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me,.” This philosophy will never change unless you Force these types of companies to set higher standards. The solution is easy since its a money-related issue and a “monthly numbers game”. People in general needs to be mature enough to start using their heads, grow a spine and quit playing half-made live-developments. Simply swap to companies that put the gaming quality and experience first and the monetization last. This will force companies to take action and deliver better products in the future.
A synonym for forging is to copy fraudulently 🙂
Blizzard really needs to do a relaunch that give the first expansion out for free to folks that own D4 to attract interest.
I’m not planning on even trying the next season of D4.
Might change my mind if the diablo content creators are still excited about it two weeks in.
So many better options out there
Last Epoch -Rough first week, but I’ve enjoyed playing a couple of different classes to 70. Will continue playing and hoping for more content.
POE – Had plenty of fun with it years ago and still play it occasionally if the season theme seems interesting
POE 2 – Looks interesting
D3 – Having more fun with a dead game than I had with D4 S1 or S3 (S2 was about the same)
Diablo Immortal – more fun than D4 until you hit the paywall – kind of dead to me now, but it didn’t cost me 70 bucks.
Just see guys scrambling
WHY IS DAMAGE TO DISTANT ENEMIES STILL A THING!?
damn I cant wait to play D3 season 500, grifts look fun again with these new graphics
Jesus wins
It kinda pisses me off that it took them a year from launch to actually fix shit people have been complaining about since day 1, then they throw up a PTR 2 weeks before season start, and we’re supposed to believe they’re actually going to be able to fix issues before season start. I gave this game the benefit of the doubt and kept my hopes up for a while, just to get pissed on every time and told it was raining. I still want the game to be good, I just don’t know if they’re capable of making it good anymore.
All the gambling shit is just being added for the eventual addition of pay2win mechanics they’ll add in 1-2 years
Systems RPG has to be the most cursed title you could ever give a Diablo game.
Killing demons and getting shiny loot. That’s what Diablo has always been about.
Systems didn’t exist until D3 and were a failure of a mechanic ever since.
Yo the flack on them for copying forging is crazy you think last epoch didn’t take anything from Diablo who’s an OG in the genre/space lol
bobby left
Too little, too late. Maybe someone is going back to try the changes, but most people allready quit the game.
That is a good way to make yourself a living meme. Keep on and stare sir
So wait I might actually might able to finish this game now lol 😂 my bad luck coupled with bad game play might not matter haha
Rare Blizzard W with the changes but i expect a return to the normal L’s when the announce the price for the DLC/expansion
Tempering Durability hahahaha
These companies should just start selling the games for 20$ early access and let us fix it over the first year lol.
Why does this feel like the devs were actually able to fix things by listening to the players (aka doing what they are meant to do), instead of listening to their manager that has never even touched a tamagotchi… They actually sound genuinely excited, like some barrier was lifted and they got to do what they wanted to
Up until now the updates seem to be good.
I’m hyped for the open Beta!! When is Diablo 4 releasing guys ?
$70 mount?
If necros minions are fixed then shadow clones should be as well right. TB rogue returns maybe?
Did they say anything about pvp?
You should build a time machine and go back to when anyone gave a shit about D4 for these changes to matter.
So we can expect odd numbered seasons to be shit and even numbered seasons to be better.
Good to know, so only play d4 every other 6-8 months.
This guys dont know what loot filter is. Living in 2010
Is all of this happening at the next update or are they waiting til the next season?
BUT IS THIS PART OF THE 100 DOLLAR great,,,,LE brought out the fear of God in the devs…. but now… will LE restep up their game even more…..
They look like pugs while talking about fun, excitement, delight.
D3+1=D4-Fans=D3 they made the same rift as d3 it’s not a pit it’s a D3 Greater rift and they didn’t even hide it well.
What is everyone complaining about? I have enjoyed playing Diablo 4. PTR is a choice for PC version gamers.
Everyone has to eat, things cost money. Welcome to Capitalism. Good, bad, ugly….thats what the world is. Let your dollar be your voice.
Still not playing this dogshit game
Endgame, crafting, itemization are the soul of an arpg. So according to the lead dev of d4. The game launched with no soul?
so this is what too little too late looks like huh
Frame this update for what? The murder of the Diablo franchise?
Who was the bearded guy that was in charge before? Did he get the boot?
If Diablo 4 is a Diablo like arpg what do you consider Diablo 1 and 2 be like?
still concerned they’re just gonna follow “damage good” philosophy like d3. it would have been great for them to bring back FCR and FHR mechanics to make items more interesting. trading becomes more meaningless when they bring back main-stat only gear like in d3. lol… it’s really becoming d3.5
okay that is hilarious for sure… the 5th last chance. 😀 it sums up you amazingly privileged Blizzard is right now. Other companies would have already sunk the 2nd or 3rd fuck up with a game. Remember the new game -I already forgot the name of it- day one customers burried it immediatelly, company ceased to exists, etc. Blizzard… they can fuck up 5x per year per game, who cares 😀 Jesus…
Garbage shit they giggling about should have already been in the game from the beginning
Describing your own game as a clone of itself shows that Diablo 4 is not actually a Diablo game. There’s no coming back from this brink with this leadership.
12 minutes in and the devs still floundering…
In the future people are going to study how bad Blizzard / Disney etc.. became because of focus groups and corporate trends. Artistic visions need to be left to people who are passionate about the actual art – once you introduce focus groups or share holders the projects become a blob of wanting to please everyone while pleasing no one. This is what happened to Disney and Blizzard / Microsoft. This is also why we get nothing but remakes or rehashes in a lot of entertainment, and this is why Indy games are becoming way better (as far as fun / story) than AAA titles.
If you can’t make your arpg a better arpg, make up a new category and be best in that instead… classic.
Diablo funs a sole reason we have a shortage of Copium worldwide.
The first 5 minutes feels like the start of a cult meeting.
This is the most abusive relationship I’ve ever been apart of
W?
23:00 Consistently getting one-guy’d this much is impressive
diablo 4 is a cool game but its very hard for me to replay it again – why? I can back to diablo 2 resurected any time and i will have good time – why?
Comparing d4 to any game is an insult to those games.
Saying d4 has a soul is an insult to humanity itself.
In another year this game might actually be worth playing
Honestly, a day late and a dollar short. It probably doesn’t matter how much better they make they game, I’m likely not coming back. I’m sure I’m not the only one who holds this sentiment.
You’re damn right bro😅👍
We don’t have any more innovators. All we have is “Ohh that was popular, how do we make this completely different game jut like that”
Heres what i think they need to do for diablo 4, they need to port it over to PC
You start crinkling a chip bag and crunching into the mic, I stop the vid and switch to Raxx’s videos instead. Here for a Diablo reaction, not a pig meal.
Fantastic update. Looking forward to jumping back in.
The dude on the far left looks like a serial killer
Lmao lets add an uber endgame system which is an EXACT CARBON COPY from a 2014 dlc, a system that was average at best, and seemed like an afterthought even then. Truly groundbreaking, 70(100)$ experience.
Unbelievable.
don’t know if you guys weren’t aware, but this is their LAST CHANCE to save diablo 4 for real this time guys
If Diablo 4 is a good game, you dont need this “campfire” BS to explain yourself. YOU just FAILED. There are only two options: 1. You don’t give a shit about the game and just want money. 2. You are incompetent and not able to figure out whats needed. I myself quit D4 in Season 2. It was just dont worth my time! And i played since D2. D4 is out summer 2023 and it STILL trash.
Joe mama
Pretty sure SARPG stands for Sad Action Role Playing Game
If the changes are different or worse than expected its 100% joes fault. You can tell these guys want to give us good changes and joe is a stick in the mud
No. Masterworking is a Tera mechanic, you got the diet version in Starrail, bald man.
Weird they locked their comment section, why they nerf skills instead of buffing other skills to make them just as viable
if they had just made a good pvp system…
I’m still waiting for them to give us an option to disable combat text. Too much clutter on the screen. You can’t even see the monsters under all that shit.
So the trivial boring itemisation will become more trivial and that will somehow make it less boring? Think again. 2 affixes on rare item … lol. So with the only crafting in the game, which is enchanting – shame on you for real – I will reroll half the item? And I’m looking for what? Damage and damage or maybe some damage with a sprinkle of damage? Because there will be like 5 mods in the pool and all will do the same thing? I’m already excited …
Who cares if they call it a rift? They should’ve called it Greater Rifts, they don’t rename legendary items every new game, it’s the same thing.
P O T E N T
i remember one of this dev talks at release, this guys had a better face back then, they going trough war
Thanks Diablo for spawning Diablo 2 for creating a baseline for ARPGs so PoE then Last Epoch could exist so Diablo 4 devs could learn how to make proper ARPGs.
This all basically sounds like they’re going the WoW Legion route. Hope they won’t take that route further 🙂
So. Once again, they only needed a year to make their game playable. And only need another 3 Years to make it somewhat good/fun? Yeah sounds about right. Why anybody would waste away 70 bucks rather than to play POE flies above my head. And I am not even a big POE enjoyer.
saving d4 for the last 60 people watching on twitch
Game died the second I got to end game and realized I’d been doing the *exact* same shit for 50 hours with absolutely zero reason to continue doing the *exact* same shit. This is the middle aged checked out of current games IP that survives off of casual player nostalgia. Anyone plugged into ARPGs knows d4 is dogwater
After reviewing all the things they’ll be adding in May, it’s actually looking like a really good update and general direction they’re headed in. It’s enough to get me to log back in and check it out after 6 months of not playing.
They delayed season 4 to be closer to poe2 release. Atleast they started working..😄
They look uninspiring
Fast question , will they add Class Set ?
“We added the ability to zoom out, we heard your feedback”…. its only been awhile.
“This isnt final”, tell me when it is so i can finally play the game again and not have to relearn entire systems.
Sims also have both Action and RPG elements, guys let’s find more examples of ARPGs! but remember to avoid mentioning our direct competitors
1:01:10 i dont want a new mechanic to learn in a diablo game. I just want a goodnatory for fucks sake.
I’m just not paying for battle passes tbh. I paid like 70 bucks for the game. And the content from the battlepass is JUST skins. I give two fucks about skins. I want new dungeon layouts and new world maps. Stop with the skins.
Ngl I kinda wanna play the game now before this launches in order to compare
A year late and about 70 dollars short. Fuck this game.
Itemisation 2.0? Finally play your own way?
Why is Asmon so hyped for this dogshit? Especially the “new” endgame content is just more old recycled crap. These guys can’t even implement new bosses with new loot. Old boss, same loot as the other one, zero replayability, zero reason to even do endgame. Greater rifts 2.0. Same old shit. None of the changes to gear or crafting (which is just more copypasta from other games) matter as there’s simply no reason to even max out your stuff. They can’t even implement a simple ladder for Greater Rifts 2.0? This company has become so bad it’s mindblowing.
Snore
D4 Dev is a fucking joke. I don’t feel pain anymore, It starts to get hillarious. xD
13:40
That’s bad asmon, considering it took them almost a year just to understand this simple problem.
these guys are the most fun aspect of diablo 4
Something is wrong with the devs if they can’t deliver good games without asking the players.
Do the players community get paid or are the devs the one getting paid for the game development jobs?
I rather they pay me instead, and I’ll write down what D4 needs to do and how.
a little bit too late to chance a soulless game
these devs have good intentions but no talent
I came in pessimistic and I’m actually impressed now.
Best last epoch crafting guide I’ve seen yet! On a real note though this is big time for diablo games gonna be looking real good!
the barb nerfs never fail
The last seasons of D3 was some of the best Arpg I ever played (if you didn’t play them, don’t even try to argue) D3 > D4
There solution is make it like d3 last few years lol
Dudes looked like they made one VERY mediocre deathcore album in 2007
Does anyone think it would be a bad idea to have the option to carry over one Uber each season?
no thanks im playing helldivers baby
I love how they spend time explaining how complex their old itemization affixes was to understand/read. As if we didn’t know that and complain about it for the past 9 months.
Still haven’t made the classes any fun imo. To few skills, still to many mandatory skills, paragon board still just mostly boring static Numbers.
These are all good changes, but they still haven’t addressed the honest core of the issues.
What a load of crap LOL!
It’s still them talking in a meta sense about video games, not actually about fun
We’re they women before they were men?
Taking another games idea and doing it worse. I’m sorry but I’d just rather play LE at least I’m not gambling stat rolls.
They never listen for their own good haha, that ship sank.
Take two seconds at the beginning to look for the bags under their eyes.
If Hollow Knight is an ARPG then Dark Souls is an RTS. It’s in real time, and there is strategy involved.
Wow so original LOL. Still good tho. Good to see some positive changes.
Omg MORE DUST DEVILS!!! Jesus Christ Blizzard is dead, a husk of what it used to be. I can’t believe anyone still buys this bullshit really.
I don’t know what in the world is going on at Blizz, but they always pick the worst and/or people to do these public town hall-type events.
The only person that didn’t make my “How did you get in here” tought trigger was the guy all the way to the right. I could listen to that and clearly connect with his speech patterns.
The second to ti left, with the “tisk”, and exaggerated inhale between each comma and sentest drive me up the wall. He is the guy that wants to tell you something, but it takes forever to simply say something simple. Long pauses, unnecessary stops. This is the guy in a raid that adds 10 to 15 extra words, pauses, “uhm” and ands to something very simple. The guy in raid that sees a healer in raid dispel themselves the without prompt reminds them to dispel. The Obvious Andy.
They need to screen the people selected for this with an external PR firm that is not woke.
Perfect example of when a studio gets too big and sells out and then fuck everyone who isnt a shareholder.
This looks really promising if this idea stays true Season 4 could be badass
Still cant believe that people are excited about these changes. Most of them should have been there from the release. Its not like we didnt tell them during Beta…
Here’s the fix:
1. Add some new mobs and not just B.S. reskins
2. Add in something like endless rifts or some kind of “go as far as you can slog” with some kind of substantial rewards the further you get.
3. If this dumpster fire is going to be an “live service mmo lite” game, then they need to find a way for 8-10 players to group for something besides a world boss or world event. Maybe an instanced raid?
5. Add another class.
6. Maybe add some new visual palettes or locals for the dungeons.
7. Fix the most important issue in the game, Loot make it better and try to cut back with the millions of affixes with all kinds of stupid percentages and bad rolls.
Bobby Kottick’s face should appear when you get a perfect temperance roll
A lot of the class changes it seems are just making these classes more like the classes from D3. Which sounds like gravy for me!
Every time I see these guys their hair gets thinner 😂
I wanna give joe shelly a hug
joe needs to go simple hes the biggest problem d4 has
I don’t like the random stuff buffs… What’s the point of it always being gambling for better items…
70$ unfinished Mobile game. Jesus…
Provide feedback that they won’t listen to anyway…
You really gotta ask if eating chips into the microphone for an hour is annoying ?
Yeah I gave up before season 1. This update will make me give the game one more chance.
I feel bad for them bcuz they are trying to get as back as fans to play again but I feel like the boat sailed a long time ago…
I hate “dead stats”… Am I the only one who likes when all stats are useful for every class?
Someone, please do a reel with the laughing Latino guy about D4…
They lured me back with this itemization update, we’ll see how classes go..
Wtf are they talking about? Srpg? And who the fuck took a dump in Joe’s cereal???
If they wanted me back they would invest back in me and make S4 free to all players
Something I realized as a good piece of feedback. Greater affixes are obviously the name of the game now. The best item in slot includes 3 ideal greater affixes now. Something I don’t like is that this means that for best in slot items, enchanting affixes is now useless because enchanting a greater affix turns it into a normal affix. I don’t like that this makes enchanting pretty much useless at least for the late game. I understand that it may still have its place in the mid game while you’re waiting for greater affix drops but I have always seen enchanting as a way to drop millions on an item to ensure the highest roll of your last affix that you need to really invest in an item and get what you need. On top of this, I want every itemization system in the game to be working in tandem to get a perfect item. If I have the best in slot item for my build I want to have had to put that item through every system in place, from a drop, to tempering, to importing an aspect, to enchanting, to socketing gems, to master working. It feels good to invest in an item in every single way possible. Hell I want even more ways to invest in items and customize further in the future and I don’t like that with this change you’re adding two new systems to the item journey but removing one. Solution: enchanting a greater affix should always roll another greater affix. This means that you don’t have to get god tier rng and drop a perfect drop which again removes the journey. They said themselves they don’t want an item to be perfect when it drops. They want a good template to build upon. So now players still need to find an item that rolled three greater affixes but they only have to have the wanted affix for 2/3 rolls. That leaves wiggle room for 1 affix to roll the wrong stat, that also allows players to use the enchanting system on perfect gear and invest in their item until they finally get that third perfect affix and then every system was included in crafting their best in slot. I think this would be a great change.
What is this games obsession with giving players a chance to do stuff? Why cant we just get an affix that adds bonus projectiles or something.
dumpster fire.
They only want the PTR so when they get it right they can charge you $100 for the update.
all I see is damage numbers and particles everywhere… boring
PoE 2 is going to destroy D4 I think when it comes out. But no need to feel sad guys, they already milked most of you 🤣
Potent and Punchier!
I hate to be this guy.. but they’re fixing issues we pointed out in the beginning. Happy it’s changing though.
Too late and a few too many dollars too expensive. D4 bad
Boo$ter
I havent played Diablo 4 since the end of the first weekend on release. Game has been boring. I would rather play Diablo 2 or even Reaper of Souls instead. I have my battlepass from my pre-order. Wont be using it. They can instead give me back my damn money
Just watched the next POE league stream. RIP D4
Joe shely in a nut shell 😳
diablo 4 would have been not too bad if it had released in 2025
HONESTLY MF BUY A F BOW FLEX OR SOMETHINFG JFC
the look on the game director’s face says the future of D4. Somber.
Asmon: Makes me wonder why the affix wasn’t always like this
Because their plan is to always release a more fucked up version then fix it slowly to get people to come back. Saw this coming soon as the beta showed these obviously brain damaged affixes
Imagine paying to boost on a ptr, i would not put it past blizzard at this point, they may not of said it but i still suspect it.
you are 100% true that is their game not us the gamers.
Wait, this game isnt dead yet? I swear we all stopped playing after 2 months, absolute max. Game should be more dead than Payday 3.
These guys are straight up mo-r-ons
I thought a long time arpg means “american role play game” since jrpg means “japanese role play game” (mostly on console)
“Their 5th last chance” 🤣🤣🤣
It feels like devs played their game for once and realized “oh shoot!” 🙂
Damn impressive , I was sure D4 is over and they made superb changes it feels like new Diablo excitement!, the PTR is smart to fix as many bugs and unbalance in the game.
Lmfao, it’s the systems!!!! The core fuggin systems the base game lmao, maybe they are finally listening, but systems don’t set diablo apart from any other arpg, nothing special about diablo systems if you ask me, and the Eternal realm is trash in comparison to seasonal content, how hard is it for fugz sake to figure this out, it’s their game have they even played it my gawdz!!!!
Dunno how those 100 people who left playing diablo are cope with this. They deliberately increased teleport time to squeeze play time, nerfed everything to squeeze play time. Their reputation is below zero right after first patch, everything they say is a lie.
22:34, some people just don’t have a memory at all. You have literally said that having to use any third party that makes you tab out Is bad game design. You have said this about addons and PoE trade.
Nerfing Barb and not having Ubers being tradable is a giant fucking L. Devs are still clueless, can’t wait for PoE 2 to finally kill this game off. D4 will always be bad
Oh funny, i know of charles from flesh and blood
its ok its ok Asmon… we all know you pre-watched the shit already.
bro, this company has all new people. we have to let go of some of these olds
franchises finally… they did it to themselves with their diablo immortal announcement,
and then released that shit. they claimed d4 is gonna be more like d2 again to sell their
shit, and everybody was unhappy and disappointed… im 33, and i still play wc3, and d2,
and i watched and played a decade of sc2, but amazes me people still wait for their new
announcements and releases in eager, when it really is a slap into the face every single time.
if feel like this about many franchises nowadays that should be left to die out maybe at
this point. if its mario, or pokemon, and their new releases…
Basically loot 2.0 from Diablo 3. Nice
i like how joe shelly said his piece and they had to boot him off
the guy far left looks so miserable lol
That crash tho uh oh !!!
These guys look miserable….
modern blizz
Sooooo, they just pulled the old d3 item logic.
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Now go take a shower and get some fresh air.
Beta 0.4 getting closer to a proper release every day. Thank fuck so many simps shilled out 70 bucks to beta test this.
Ngl, they are a obviously gay devs. It’s sad to see, Diablo is done.
the aspect system changes is a giga W. absolutely hated the old system
I would love to be able to change builds seamlessly like in D3
I don’t think you can save this game. At this point, I just don’t wanna play diablo. diablo 2 is the one exception. And I believe many agree.
It would be cool if you could encounter Uber uniques in the wild… just going to their summoning locations is kinda boring. I wannna be running nm dungeons and stubble across a big boss. Like how they have the butcher show up randomly…
The tempering stuff, that’s like in Nioh btw, where it’s even called tempering. lol
There’s no save option, I can see their dilemma.
Played base game and stopped before season 1. This update has me excited to play the game again.
They lost me once joe started talking
After playing Lost Epoch i went back to D4 its so bad LE is better in every way D4 is ok to play once for the story but as a ARPG is garbage
This should be the game of Diablo and PvP, they don’t even know what D1 was about, where’s diablo, where’s the pvp goals? they aint beating PoE in PvE
They are just to disconnected from whats fun and engaging for arpg players. Sad to say but diablo is dead man. There isnt any saving it at this point, the only “fun” aspect of D4 is leveling up, and once you get to end game, it is the most boring garbage ive played in a long time.
dude, minions on necros in LE are super fun, flashy, spells everywhere, projectiles everywhere, able to summon like 20 minions simultaneous, D4 need to enable those kind of things too
Full overhaul or gtfo
Diablo 4 killers just watched Diablo 4 suicide by itself LMAO
A PTR allows them to have bad developers and use fans for development. Its more free labor.
People still play this game?
Shit ARPG
I wish they would just rebrand and sell the business
This is what happens when the investors got what they came for and now the devs can actually make their game
Joe is balding
Last Week: “D4 Bad”
Today: “D4 BAD (80s)”
When they started doing the pit, Asmons face, priceless.
Poe doesn’t need a ptr because they have fans that are so die hard they could release absolute garbage they’d eat it up.
Explaining what an ARPG is to an audience of ARPG players is some quadruple A levels of out of touch.
It’s really sad a company such as Blizzard, a creator of games that have literally taken the hours of the entire worlds life time in gaming and have changed gaming forever with THE BEST games ever created. Have degenerates like us profit off them with content of their slander and obvious devious actions. This company with such an esteem has a standard that they should accept nothing less then perfectness. Yet here we are… BLIZZARD this is on you. You are not listening. You are unable to take a risk away from money even though you have made more money in the gaming industry any company dream of. shame on you. Shame on you, you have these content creator hold truth and mock you. SAHME ON YOU
Nothing is going to make this shit game good, it’s rotten at its very core.
Joe Shely needs a hug ❤
Dang if I had to take a sip every time they say “temper”, not sure I’d have lasted the whole video
you could say its the first strand type game
He clicked on trap augments and it crashed how obvious, my guess it was staged/planed if not blizzard get me!!
From an ignorant player who has no idea how game development works i would’ve fired so many of these guys already.
tbh they need to redesign completely the skill system, should take some lessons from Last epoch and POE guys, the customization in D4 is very sad..
diablo 3 and 4 are trash, there is no saving lol
It’s like they finally watched one video, any video, of people talking about the first season. Great work guys
hmm maybe I will play another season of D4…. litterally stopped at the start of the second season after being bored to death
This is what good items looked like in Diablo 2
+2 To All Skills
+45% Faster Run/Walk
+1 To Teleport
+750-775 Defense
+ (0.75 Per Character Level) +0-74 To Strength (Based On Character Level)
Increase Maximum Life 5%
Damage Reduced By 8%
+14 Life After Each Kill
15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+ (1 Per Character Level) +1-99% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based On Character Level)
Seems really good can’t wait to try the New changes d4 gud
Asmonfooled. Blizzard: “Bigger number” Asmon: “I’m sold! I think I’m going to play the next season.”
the guy 2nd to the left look more aging and dying every time they do this.
One day in season 15 it will be a amazing game. Just like 3 was.
nobody cares about blizz slop anymore
So they just got 80% from last epoch and put there name on it ? Judt wow…
Dude saw arpg and got it completely wrong
i am 3 mins in. They all look haunted – (possibly a great thing for diablo lore?). If a dev is trying to explain what type of game the game is, 10 months following launch, there are substantial issues which cannot be solved with a video depicting tortured shadows of devs in a blind panic freefall due to what I can only assume is “management” holding their kids hostage in a shipping container somewhere until they “make it gud”.
They charging 4 there home upgrades 😊😎🤗
am not a fanboy or anything but is zack and alot of ppl actually think there is a 70$ mount in the game ?? that is not true btw …. it’s a 7000 game coins + a mount the 7000 game coins alone if bought separate will cost around 75$ ! …. the mount is a plus extra thing on top ! … i know the game was having alot of issues … and was frustrating even to me in some areas …. but plz ppl stop hating just for the sake of slamming blizzard lol … and ppl should stop spreading ” fake news ” just to make things look worst that it actually is …. and lets all hope season 4 and these amazing changes ” on paper ” will actually feel good and fix the game moving forward ^^ … we r all here to have fun guys and play these games and enjoy 🙂
just make a good game omg. Why do we need these boring chats where 4 dudes listen to themselves talk. They don’t need a ptr, they need a good team of devs who actually play their game.
D4Bad
So as a none diablo player is this game worth getting after this update? Or should I just wait?
tbf yr paying with your time to test a game that the creators dont know how to make not dog shit
Path of Last Diabloch
the guy on the far left looks like he should be on some sort of welfare watch. 1000 yard stare and hardly blinking..PTSD?
Actually ur president u ride in on
Oh man watching this was so cringe 😂
Anyone remember looking for the 5 slot armor in D2 to use runes to give it teleport for any character? I forget what it’s called
Last epoch 4 retempered
Diablo IV sucks, Last Epoch, Baldur’s Gate 3, PoE, Dragons Dogma II and Final Fantasy VII are way better than this POS. Why waste your time with it?
theyll delay this implementation at LEAST twice.
Somebody sew epoc and d4 peeps a beautifully stitched blanket.
way too late
Diablo 3 had the same problem initially, how are they fucking it up again and then fixing it all over again in d4
It sounds like someone finally forced them to play their own game.
Joe Shelly literally emanating “It’s so over.” Energy throughout this.
where is diablo :-P?
Diablo’s 3 and 4 are by far the worst jrpgs ever created everyone on this panel should be fired
I played season 3 I think season 2 was cooler but both 2 and 3 were basic stupid differences. Season 4 will bring everybody back.
‘Please come back to D4 so we can sell you a $100 expansion this summer’ -Blizzard
Of course blizzard would want to call their game an SArpg
The whole gathering materials and pumping resources into items and random stat upgrade rolls and crafting items and forging items and tempering items and all this item management is the part I hate about these kind of games. So this sounds horrible to me. I just want to play the game, I don’t want to browse menus for 10 years.
51:15 just shut it all down. TL;DL Helltide got a GTA police stars, old boss came back as “new”, 1:47:20 brain off tower battle. No new mobs after all the new updates that should been there during S1.
Diablo IV is a Diablo-like, really? This man has a job? HIRE ME. I’ll helm that shit.
Only thing I don’t like is hardcore changes. I’m never playing hardcore without some kind of cheat death mechanic 🤷♂️
Just end it guys you are wasting money
honestly i like the changes but the blatant copy paste with new names is kinda disguisting and feels wrong, that craft/temper system had 0 innovation to it. they just stole LE’s innovation to the genre
I’m pretty excited I hope it works out
you eating chips made this unwatchable, great video otherwise.
my last d4 experience was realizing resistances werent working ‘as intended’… im done with their systems
If they implement the ability to Gain MORE Paragon Points.. oh my. Let us MAX out Characters FULLY.
The damage next season is gonna be insane.
S a rpg
Funny and akward but all the changes look good. Not poe level, but on on the right path.
Why do people keep investing in this company? Faithful hopefuls dreaming of a return to glory?
so you hear the director of d4 saying arpg is ‘hollow knight but also elden ring’ then you go to the poe livestream where they talk about specific interactions between generals cry or bone armour and automation. yea d4 is definitely gonna be good
25:49 if you close your eyes this guy sounds exactly like Ion Hazzikostas
Hot take for future me & you. At least 3 of the 5 that conducted this wont have a job at Microsoft Blizzard 1 year from today. Hard pass for me on whatever they are changing & PTR testing. D4 is just a bad game at its core (too many undercooked ingredients from launch). The bridge has been burnt. I am not around to wait months/years for it to be “good enough”. Last Epoch & PoE2 are the ARPGs to play going forward people.
Asmon can read between the lines like a got dang oracle.
PTR is outsourced free labor and it should be detested
I laughed when the base item affix update slide came in. Yall really are paying Blizzard to beta test their unfinished product huh?
To think all they had to do was follow the D2R formula
They could just listen idk 🤷♂️ 😂😂😂😂
de ja vu
A new acronym to distract from the issues that they haven’t solved.
just boycott the d4 expansion guys!
What is the point of allowing trade if you can only find items with your classes stat and abilities on it. Also are we not just switching from a storage full of aspects, to a storage full of manuals?
i’m planning on downloading it for gamepass, and i expect it to be a replacer of vampire survivor, which means, nearly mindlessly walking around and shooting stuff. and i expect the blizz spice of cinematics.
Steps in the right direction
Final Final Final Final Final Final.jpg
SRPG is basically mobile game RPGs. The systems are there to delay the players from getting top tier loot for as long as they can so they can encourage spending to speed up the process.
I do not care for talkie talks.
Just make game good.
It cracks me up people talking about Last epoch or path of exile influencing diablo, when none of those games would exist without diablo lol. Good god, so many toxic people for no reason. If you don’t like the game, don’t play it, I can’t imagine how pathetic my life would need to be that I’d have to go on another games video that I didn’t care for to bash it. I have thousands of things more worth my time than to troll the internet. Just from seeing how toxic those around the last epoch or path of exile scene seem to be whenever any of this stuff is brought up, it drives me away from ever wanting to even attempt last epoch or go back to path of exile.
talk is cheap. lets see it in action. im sure they found a way to fuck shit up somewhere
Diablo 4 in a nutshell by Asmongold: “This is their 5th LAST CHANCE”. Funny but sad, but funny.
Does Joe not understand what an ARPG is? It’s 3 min in and the disconnect is surreal. Game director, btw.
Why is Blizzard trying to coin the term Sexual Assault Role Playing Games? Weird.
Confused, its the itemisation that is terrible, no loot filter… just not fun. Just copy/paste D2
Hey guys, when does this game release out of beta phase?
yeah seriously just call it forging
This made me want to play last epoch and PoE 2 even more😂
Small stupid things are big important things.
Hey guys we are completely out of touch with our player base heres us trying to do something that shouldve been done along time ago
Is that guy going to get fired ? Please.
they all look depressed, why do they do these videos 🤣
So to clarify for anyone wondering: the PTR is there because they laid off QA team + so they can say “we listen” when actually people playing there are working for free.
Finally moving over from Paid Alpha
Nope never going back. The dagger has already been set in this heart. I shouldn’t have to wait almost a year later for your game to be fun and these updates not gonna improve it much.
So the game is still dog💩 got it.
All I remember from the whole thing was “increase the size of your bone spear explosion”.
I don’t want to hear ARPG or SARPG ever again.
I’m still not buying D3. Or D4. Mebbe D5 if I am bored of PoE2. ^ ^ KC P.S.: These changes are too late. Sorry Blizzard. 😛
Idk if i can watch this xD
hamster wheel arpg, HWARPG
Swear they just control c, v the content and just chuck the name in a thesaurus and pick the first word😂😂😂 and I’m all for it, if the game is good I don’t really care.
Is this bungie? 😂😂
I don’t think now is the time to discuss the semantics of what the definition of arpg is…. Like cmon bro lol. I’ve already tried to figure out in the past what the definition of an rpg is and what certain characteristics put a game in a different category ie jrpg arpg crpg etc, it’s a confusing mess. Diablo 4 is an arpg, just leave it at that. Hollow Knight is not an arpg in the traditional definition. The “action” is a bit of a misnomer and misleading. Just define games by what traditional genres go by, otherwise it will all come crumbling down like a a jenga tower and none of it will make sense.
They sound a bit like the crypto bros :p trying to explain to “normal gamers” all the reasons their product MUST be good xD xD xD xD xD
Look at those demoralized faces.
I like hearing the changes and all the customizability coming, great for build crafting. But at the end of the day theres just going to be a meta that most will follow. Hoping these changes make it to where multiple build variants are viable.
Man joe s needs a win I hope things end up going well he just looks so defeated haha. The slouching says it all.
Blizzard devs freak me out the way they talk about how deciding to make your whirls go blue and lightning or red and damage over time fire on a menu is like some kind of extremely engaging, amazing life changing content there.
The game coming to game pass in a week or so and that will give them a big jump in players.
make the exp pack 30$ would be the first step
I dont think I ever wanna hear someone from Blizzard calling a game an SA-RPG
I just bought Last Epoch.
I was so mad to see D4 showing up on my Xbox gamepass when I paid almost $90 for it, played it 7 times for about an hour around launch, didn’t really find it fun, and then uninstalled it finally 3 days before it said it was coming to gamepass.
I would have just waited, ugh.
Hmm I may in-fact log in again to check this out
Looks like they may be able to pull this game out of the shitter after all. Certainly looks like they are stressed about this patch being good.
Diablo 4 is a joke. Diablo 3 was a joke. Milking the community and the whales*** is how their new profit plan works
The Blizzard Art Team needs to find a company who remembers what fun is.
10 simple changes that would make Diablo 4 better. Remove PVP and use the areas in a better way. Boots always roll with movement speed. Conduit Shrines trigger waves of enemies. More Variety in the open world and especially in dungeons. Cellars have almost no purpose anymore. Let a few of them have a portal or something that leads to a demonic realm with some great unique loot. Add more shrines. More goblin variety (D3 did it perfectly). Add Pets that auto pickup gold and materials. Detach Aspects from items. I don‘t wanna add an aspect, as soon as I find a better item. Make aspects permanent slots in a secondary inventory. Bring back Kanais cube, with 3 slots of any aspects and one for an unique. Enemies shouldn’t be able to paralyze the player. Make him vulnerable, that’s punishment enough. Add More stashes.
Itemization still fucking sucks. It’s amazing to me that D2 has existed for a quarter century and yet they learned absolutely nothing from it
As a minion main, im happy i won’t be seeing millions of items with shadow and blood damage bonuses. Always thought it should just be flat across the board
Jesus Christ this ongoing live service campfire talk shit is getting out of hand. It’s taking the fun and magic of the gaming experience away. This is both the fault of the players and the developers at this point, and the construct of communication that is the internet. This all feels so very hopeless now. These poor developers, that might I remind you are human beings like the rest of us, trying to bend over backwards over issues like skill points and “fog of war” while also dealing with the extreme weight of their corporate overlord and shareholder investors.
This must be what it felt like to be a part of the industrialization of filmmaking in Hollywood during the 40’s to the 60’s (pardon my inaccuracy in decades, I may be cattywampus). I was born in 1985, I experienced the time when you accepted and enjoyed a game for what it was when it was released. And I’ve been there the whole ride into games becoming what they are now. Diablo 1 and 2 never had to apologize to me for it’s itemization or lack of good items dropping when I looped boss battles.
But here we are. A monster of our own design. Both player and studio to blame for this embarrassing foray into financial prowess and deformation of the art and its artists that have deserved the spotlight. I feel so sorry for the people who poured their souls into creating Diablo 4. To be this bashed and beaten over the creation of an entertainment piece of media. To those people I adore your talent, and you have created a master craft game visually and atmospherically.
This hate train must stop. After a while it becomes the same vehicle we use to make changes. The Diablo 4 hate train eventually becomes full of the same evil that created the systems we started the train with.
PS: Don’t smoke a fat J midday on a thursday. I dunno how you kids dab and function. You wild fucks.
See you in the depths of the comments 🙂
so when does retail Diablo 4 come out
Them nerfing things isn’t going to kill any bills because of the gear changes they made
Looking into those three guys eyes I can only think of two things, one they are totally baked, or two they’ve been through hell, literally because it’s Diablo.
At this point why even listen to them. The game not that good and never will be. They are lost and clusess and live in a bubble and think things are great. Becase they only listen to each other.
I love how they first said that you can purchase things with real money BEFORE talking about changes. Tells you a lot.
Why the hell, should customers wait years for a game to be remotely playable and enjoyable when they have readily available, much better alternatives?
That ship has sailed.
imagine still playing this garbage
its interesting changes, but hard to know if the system feels good until its played. Sadly, we cant trust them to play it to ensure its good.
They still need more unique and memorable boss encounters, not just lol here’s another Tomb Lord. Sounds like good changes all around, though.
39:30 Didn’t they fix the menus in Rise? I haven’t played World, but I’ve had no issues with the menus in Rise, it wasn’t rocket science.
WASD walk keys?
I’ll just wait until Diablo 5 comes when I’m in my eighties.
The thing I miss about old diablo was that all classes could equip all items except for a few things. That made for more interesting gameplay. I remember playing a melee sorc with fire wall.
The intro from Joe Shely was bizarre.
I am so glad they had the open beta for the game. Made the decision not to buy it super easy. And I’ve gotten hours of entertainment watching the dumpster fire it’s been from the outside.
Diablo 4 sucks
They should have held this meeting in a PTR before going live. They taught me what an ARPG is and what it isn’t, but I still don’t understand why they’ve developed a trash game. Maybe we’re all in a PTR right now.. Maybe my brother’s wife didn’t really cheat on him 17 times last year. It’s all just PTR… maybe I can fly..? I’ll brb.
Its starting to feell like the d4 and the OW2 team is out-doing the wow team…..
The real reason the game has trouble is there’s nothing for the gold farmers to exploit and they’re the ones that spam the forums
It started off really weak but by the end, it started to look like they are having fun. I’m sure they’re all exhausted racing uphill.
Is this actually going to be good? Maybe. Have to play it to find out. Still can’t tell what’s happening on the floor much of the time.
It’s funny how they put their game in a new category: ASS aRPG
What a superb publicity!!!
So I have to pay the d4 I should of gotten when I paid for d4 in the beginning.
and this is a waste of life time ..bye
Everyone with an ounce of talent has already left the soulless husk that is Blizzard.
Only the dregs that have no other options remain.
Edit: ok, patch notes actually looked good. Thanks Last Epoch for introducing mire competition. Now, let’s see if this actually translates well to the game…
Killed diablo …..it’s like none of them played d1 or d2 or d3 lolsz ….like they think they are making a new diablo like it’s a new game and never played the sort of game it is.
Remove the stupid must always be online to play ur dumb game.Not every time people have stable internet.I regret buying ur diablo 2 remaster in thinking to relive my childhood…L dev if you tell me
THEY LOOK SOOOOOO TIRED. :O
Why are we talking about the changes in D4?
Next… Waiting on D5 now. See you all in 10 years. Again.
“Path of Epoch 4” – Ive been waiting for u all my LIFE !!! This new game will be Awesome !!!
While this is good for the game. This clearly shows how trash and out of touch the Blizzard staff is with its user base. Everything here should have been in on day 1. Lazy or incompetent you decide.
So fix gear that never should of needed fixing . Added Andariel with same drops as Duriel as new end game? So you now need to farm nightmares and legions on top of helltide and whispers for Ubers… same shit different pile.
You know its going to be good when the lead starts with “what it a game anyways?” Like bro snap out of it!
None of these people look remotely happy to be there.
Come on now asmon.. ” i dont care about rmt, just ban them” as a streamer, gold is not an issue. It is for the rest of us.
And regarding ubers not tradeable. Good. Keeps lazy streamers like him, from being fed them for free.
“Important Decisions for an ARPG”? It’s almost like Blizzard hasn’t even seen the different between Their Talent tree vs something like POE’s Talent tree.
Am I taking crazy pills or did they have this exact same problem and exact same fix for D3?
Testing for free for a billion dollar company…..thats a no for me dog
Everyone’s really positive about this but I’m getting Diablo 3 loot 2.0 vibes and I don’t care what anyone says reaper of souls is garbage.
more like it is still going to be a casino, but now it will be less likely that you ever get the skills your looking for on a weapon heh, sounding like you’ll never have your gear to even progress into the next tiers or youll be waiting weeks and weeks for xitem so you can even kill anything in xtier.
Wtf lol, whats so hard about calling the “pit” what it actually is, and why was it not in the game from the start, he thinks that activision still owns them? its not new lol.
How f’in hard would it have been to make an actual pit that your char jumps into instead of a grift monolith. Remove the damn portals and make you jump deeper and deeper into the “pit”. Almost like you’ve diving into hell or something >.>
The game Quasimorph has this same exact Helltide summoning bar functionality.
Total win for Last Epoch. Them “inspiring” a lot of these changes.
“Competition breeds excellence” is absolutely right. Blizzard saw, we’re about to get Eiffel Towered by POE 2 and LE, we gotta do something for real. The problem with Blizzard these days is… if they get players coming back they go right back to their old shit. Let’s just hope these actually meaningful changes are the first of many and not a dying gasp.
So obfuscating currency in games is… bad, but obfuscating game mechanics to extend playtime is… good? It’s like every mechanic in the game needs a slot machine.
Anytime a developer says “it didn’t feel fun/good” should be considered a failure on there part either you guys don’t play your own game, you have emotionless robots playing, or there is no one playing this game before launch.
Glad they took the time at the start to clarify that Diablo 4 is a Diablo-like SARPG ARPG.
So, D4 is now LE + D3
Yay a PTR, now we can see the crap they try to make us play even sooner.
Gonna summarize for y’all:
Diablo 4 is an “S-ARPG”
ShitARPG.
The end.
Except it’s still all meant to disrespect your time.
All rpgs with a trade should have a AH/ auction house
God I wish I could get my $90 back! 😂
Make it f2p
Nice, it’s D3
So I get to use cool items to boost my fireball that either does 2% more crit or is slightly bigger. All these changes are great but none of the classes have enough cool skills and variety to make you want to play with the new items.
Diablo 4 Yoink™
D2 had great itemization, just copy that and build off of it, there’s a reason so many people still play it..
i hate that i like the campfire dudes and hate how bad the fucking game is. Wish blizzard woulda released a game and not a scam they deserve better
this is why Speech & Debate should be required in high school, holy shit
no
Billy Corgan looking rough
Diablo WAS a dungeon crawler…… what the fuck is an SARPG?
THEY FINALLY PLAYED THE GAME GUYS!!!! we may FINALLY be able to go back to d4 and have fun
all this is great, but is the game fun yet??
As long as mana isn’t brought back as a common denominator for every class, itemization can never be engaging. Charge and release skills are bs and even if d3 and d4 claim to have different classes, they are all some pale copy of the assassin in d2.
Blizzard is a “yeah you can copy my homework but dont make it obvious” company at this point.
aaa the liers are back!
I don’t trust blizzard at this point. They are hiding something.
Nah, not worth my time re-install it. I’ve got grass to touch.
It’s amazing how the PR speak doesn’t allow them to say the pit is essentially ‘greater rifts from D3’ when we all know what it is and they know that we know what it is. Its not like the other systems they copied (and for good reason) where they just don’t want the hassle of doing a direct comparison, but greater rifts is from the previous version of their game and it was one of the most, if not the most, compelling end game features from D3. Is there some sort of ‘shame’ or rivalry that just doesn’t allow for this kind of acknowledgement? I would argue its most certainly a PR messaging control but maybe I’m missing something?
the first thing i noticed in the first 3 minutes of the video is just how they struggle to mantain eye connect with the camera (their audiance) and keep looking at eachother for reinfocement which to me means lack of confidence in what why are trying to sell.
Bring back season 2 for the rest of the time left. I’m not touching season 3 is terrible.
Diabolo battle royal🎉🎉
they look so excited to show their update of the game
Sorry, but D4 is still sh1t. Have they fixed resistances? I haven’t login in eons.
Sometimes I feel bad for them, it should be difficult to haveto present like this every season… BUT THEN, I remember that these were the guys that ruined my favorite game of all time
Other communities practically beg devs to have PTRs for testing and here sits Asmonbum and says the opposite lmao
Also god damn Joe has basically negative charisma level. What is he doing in front of a camera.
it’s not an sa-arpg, it’s diablo, stop trying to make it into something else, that’s where you guys fucked up in the first place, you’re trying to change the game into something besides what made it popular.
Here is how I would fix D4,
1. reduce gear drops, by ALOT, so when you get a drop it’s meaningful
2. remove disenchanting items
3. let items be sold on AH for gold or traded for other gear or items
done.
Im feelinng for joe. He definitely cares because his hairline is just drifting away with every awake hour. But management must be fing him so hard, Theyre literally plowing away his hairs
If they would sit around a table they wouldn’t look that guilty .
Thah guy is not blinking … he’s taking screenshots.
lol they still never fixed why no one is playing the game. This team is clueless. It will still take way too long to swap and test builds. I will set back and laugh when season 4 fails
So they nerfed everyone to the ground then slowly buffed them back to normal 😂😂😂. Yeah im good. Fk d4
People who brought diablo 4 deserve this. What did you expect to happen! Stop supporting these types of companies.
You deserve this game being bad. You keep buying the games because fomo and no self control. This is why blizzard will never change, because of you Simping blizzard gamers
You can not fix / patch a fundamental broken game.
Games like cyberpunk had a very good base , you csn remove everything and build in that.
Diablo 4 is a mix of a mmo, mobile game, rpg , aepg and dungeon crawler , no focus no real base.
diablo 2 had keybinsings you could use so many skills not just 5 useless ones , why can’t diablo 4 have this ? Cause they are chasing trends and looking at metrics of mobile games selling shit
You can not build on nothing , you can not patch no focus, you can not simply the write the most basic of code.
They only thing they cared for was the mobile aspect of the game : micro transactions.
Let it die.
AAAA SARPG
These are all just reasons to play Lost Epoch, Helldivers, or Palworld.
The devs for those games understand the players and what we like.
Not even 2 hours in and I haven’t watched anything.
When a Man cant look at the camera for more then 3 sec.
well easy diablo 4 is crap and is a dumpster fire last epoch came in to give a helping hand to players who are dying from diablo 4 lack of content and telling ex diablo 4 players be proud poe 2 is coming soon to ease the pain and make you happy again
I dropped D4 after I completed the campaign, it wasn’t enticing enough to continue. This makes me want to get it again lol
Matey on the left has had his soul dragged through hell itself since the last time I saw one of these
honestly they just need to look at d2 and see why it works 1million x better than d3 and d4. Take the itemization/crafting/runes/sets and add those to the game and make tweaks to them. Then create new things and expand from there. There’s a reason why d3 and d4 itemization is shit. The fact that they don’t have sets in d4 is fucking beyond stupid. There’s a reason why sets are so fun and awesome to have.
Nope 👎
Do. Not. Give. Blizzard. Money.
diablo 4 sucks
You do realize the ptr is optional lol, you dont have to partake in it
Skip to 2:11:30 for final thoughts.
Joe just needs to go
Please fire both Joes.
A multi dollar company 😅
this is a promising direction but they still need stash tabs !
Maybe they actually have fired all the people with bad ideas from the Diablo Team
so I guess I play dragon dogma 2 until this dogshit releases
They know their jobs are on the line and by the looks of their facial expressions, I think they know they are going to be fired.
Talking about ARPGs… Bruh, PoE, Lost Arc, Diablo, these are all what people mean when you say “ARPG”. You never go “Oh I really like ARPGs” and then have your friend go “Oh, so like Dark Souls?”
Oh god 😂😂😂
yo that kid first on the left is going through the J Alen Brack style of aging.
i remember a couple of years ago he was talking at blizzcon about d4 and now look at him, bags under his eyes, thinning of the hair and hairline raised (the first obvious signs of balding), skinnier than before…
and the worst part is that i can’t even say “i hope they pay him well” because diablo 4 is garbage and people should not be rewarded for producing garbage.
Let’s be honest this is ether an under developed or an over developed game. Whichever it is Diablo 4 is bad end of story.
They admitted it ,, Diablo LIKE
D4 devs talk about experiences and feelings they want to spoon feed you, and devise systems to meet that goal. POE and others devise complex and engaging systems and let the player experience develop organically from them.
making it one stat per toon is bullshit. this game only looks like its gonna get worse.
So no loot filter
Blizzard is doing the same thing many gaming companies do. Give you a terrible game/season/dlc and once everyone is ready to quit after being bled dry, they release an update that’s mildly okay but it blows everyone away because they are so use to shite.
Joe having a existential crisis right before our eyes.
Joe Shely not hiding his feelings on the matter at all.
wait, you guys like playing minion builds?
Is D4 good now? Was my $70 an investment after all?
They had me at “All Uniques drop at WT3”
You would think after nearly 3 decades, Blizzard would have figured out how to do loot.
The Game Itself Tried to SAve itself, by Committing Suicideeee crashing….
They should have made the ptr start on April 1st, cuz that shits a joke.
Jokes aside while I dont see why they made so many strange desicons such as how gear worked or the stash problem but its glad to hear that some many stuff is getting fixed.
D4 is dead…period….end of story.
all sounds very good on paper but lets see how diablo survives these changes. After so long failing every change they’ve made and failing its community so many times… im not buying this campfire. PoE 2 will destroy it (it’s a fact) and last Epoch is just a better game. It sucks because i was a diablo player but i will not pay a 70 quid game from blizzard never again. Greed has played against them. Only fools or people who don’t care about losing money will continue buying garbage from blizzard, i don’t really care, its their money. But i don’t like to be scammed as i have been with diablo 4.
Joe Shelly sounds like he had Kamala Harris write his fucking speech god damn he said literally nothing
alpha phase completed now were in beta test of d4 lookin good
Panel of soyjacks
Talk about the fucking game not whatever category it falls under. 3 min in and you already have given up ffs
Seems like some of the lessons were already learned in D3. Do they have the amnesia?
Gaming industry is an absolute joke.
PTR just gives them a penultimate chance.
Im feel so sorry for Joe. Dude was rly excited coming into it but looks like he was defeated by this company. We don’t know wtf is going behind the curtain but he rly looks defeated. Maybe he don’t have the skills for makings this game good or company is holding him/his team back.
they look so tired and deflated, its sad honestly, that this is now blizzard.
Joe Shely face reflects average D4 player experience
I enjoyed this game until the first battlepass. Then i could clearly see how scummy this game planned to be and the lack of content i knew i’d get. Thanks for the base game. I played with my nephew for most of it and we live states away so i got to bond with him, but i also paid for his copy and mine and neither of us play this crap anymore.
Bale is definitely the most charming one in that room
Good changes, will for sure try out the changes and see if gameplay is improved.
even in season 9.. it ill suck. sorry
Imagine if during one of the slideshows, Last Epoch was shown instead of Diablo 4.
“Okay guys we made a game, and you think it’s shit. Now the burden of fixing it falls on you, so here’s PTR.”
LOL this is so funny to watch…
They could have fixed all this with an auto salvage option, people get exhausted going to town, break down, sell this extract that. Auto salvage and send to chest.
I gave up on Blizzard the second i played the D3 demo
I’ll be honest, I don’t care if they stole Last Epochs systems. D4 just feels better, looks better, and honestly it plays better. I played quite a lot of LE but man, its systems in D4 is just a big W and all of these changes sound great.
ive never played any diablo game in my life, but i have watched HOURS of asmon talking about it.. ….
These guys look like they don’t have phones.
Does it really matter at this point if they do fix Diablo 4 to be the best ARPG? Do you guys trust Blizzard anymore with your money? I sure don’t. I’m not giving Blizzard any more money, especially when there are great alternatives from publishers/developers that at least appear to care about their customers
Who is still playing this?
THIS IS A DEAD GAME WHY ARE THEY EVEN TRYING..
Still won’t get rid of level scaling so no thank you.
It’s incredibly frustrating to watch the D4 devs slowly learn lessons that have been learned in past Diablo games, and solve problems that are entirely of their own making… again because they ignored the 20+ years legacy of the franchise.
They had all the blueprints to make a fantastic Diablo game and they decided to throw pretty much everything out the window and instead just design everything from scratch, only to fail miserably and then end up ripping ideas and content from previous and other games. Which is fine, but that’s what they should have done in the first place.
Just pay another 80$ for the expansion to access the (partially) “fixed” version of the game.
It’s the fiiiinaaaaal last chaaaanceeee didu diiiduuuuu didu didu diiiiiiiiiiii 🎶🎶
Joe always looks so sad and stressed saying in his head, “I really wanted this game to be great.”
Blizzard and Diablo 4 is dead. Players have moved on. Players have the power. Enjoy the downfall Blizzard, your days are over. Was fun while if lasted, you sunk your own ship. Bye
Every time Blizzard mention something in this video, they immedietly go into explaining why / defending what they are saying.
For fucks sake, do changes that do not need defending / explaining. make it fun!
Why are you guys giving blizzard the attention they crave?
let them r.i.p. already…..
watching joe shelly mansplain action rpgs to people that have been playing video games their whole god damn lives is cringe as fk
Oh they took the master work idea from Destiny for the max roll items. That’s actually great
I love philosophizing about systems in video games and whether they are fun, but perhaps they should have done that before the game was released
the dummies convene again to repeat the same promises over and over
“Quality of items versus quantity of items”, considering they already have an unlimited amount of garbage items…..they don’t need anymore.
Joe still trying to hype “Hell”. These mobs are 800% MORE wicked demonic than before u guise
D4 was a paid beta. Game launches in season 6.
It really REALLY annoys me that they are talking like “this is our philosophy” .. like mofos, yall came up with the original regarded system and shit like increase shadow damage to enemies who have a shadow dot.. you guys didnt come up with any philosophy at all, yall got cussed out for pretty much almost a year as to how trash everything in the game was and defended it to the death, until now that the game is basically dead do they actually do something somewhat worthwhile to make the game a bit better.
And i will say i used to defend the game when it launched, i liked the idea that gearing up was hard, i liked the idea that leveling a character took a really long time. But after i got a sorc to 100 before s1, i realized how boring and awful everything was. This game is made for literal babies. Everything seems complex at a glance but in reality d4 is even more basic and simplistic than d3 while somehow also being extremely boring, at least d3 was like a bad movie with tons of really good action, d4 is just a terrible all around movie(i still think the campaign is/was fine, i still really enjoyed my first playthru of the campaign.)
“Listening” until everyone comes back and they start to do their shady shit again.
Fck Blizzard and Activision
3:53 You know the industry has gone to shit when you have people in it or around it trying to act smart by using “fancy” words like prolific and lush. BiG wOrD mAkE mE sOuNd SmArT.
Just shut up, make the game, and make it good. Do that and you’ll never have to open your mouth to sell a game’s quality.
What a car crash… Seems to be an ongoing thing across Xbox, sad stuff
PTR 4
finally, been waiting for this video
Okay so these are the three stooges. They look unhealthy
easy mode steal small indie games better gameplay mechanics. The way it should be.
Joe Shely needs help 😢
Soooo greater rifts. We get greater rifts again. 😂😂😂😂😂
This isn’t an MMO, it has no need for a PTR. Just make the game work for fk sakes, and stop with systems on top of systems and stop producing things like the stash tab BS.
looks liek im logging back in to d4 dident think i ever would
How they monetize this game is why it sucks.
These fixes are just inconveniences.
So it’s d4…. but it’s d3 and last epoch and poe and etc and etc… but looks like d4. 😂😂😂
Good to finally put a face to the guy that ruined necros
Last Epoch is so much better and (for me) it came out of nowhere. It’s so much better than D4.
That’s an astounding big W for D4!!
Asmongold: “Why can’t you trade uber uniques? PoE allows you to trade everything” What Asmongold doesn’t understand is that PoE has something to do AFTER you gear and D4 doesn’t.
2000: Game design by a dedicated few: A masterpiece.
2024: Lead game designer, assistant game designer, lead class designer, queen of dragons: A letdown.
The real problem with blizzard is that they release live service games which are created without a proper long term strategy on how to keep people engaged. And from the overwatch pve cancellation we can see they cant even make proper financial prospects about their businessplan. It is remarkable what a downfall this company makes.
They are cooked
90+% of the changes are to make things more simple. I wish more Devs would do this right off the bat.
Look at HellDivers 2. It’s a simple and fun game that wasn’t made overly complicated for no reason.
Make more fun games that aren’t over complicated.
Played diablo 4 months ago. Have absolutely zero desire to play it again. Helldivers 2 is the newest greatest thing right now
The game never needed to be saved. PTR is always better for the game not sure why this is questioned. All Diablo games are always better as time goes on. IMO ppl need to understand games are a lot larger than older games so when I huge game gets released with understanding it is a game as a service the game development continues with its community after release.
Jesus fuck they don’t even know what a fucking ARPG is…
The problem Blizzard has is that it wants to make system arpgs but suck at creating functional systems….blizzard sucked at balancing since warcraft 1. And their skills of balancing their systems got worse and worse ever since. Look how many steaks can you burn to coal before you realise that you shouldnt do grilled steaks. Maybe just try making a soup, something that you cant burn
10 minutes in and they havent said anything of substance. Just a word salad. jesus
They are leaning closer to Diablo 2 itemization and rng, which is good.
Shely explaining to us what ARPG is like he once heard in a lecture and explaining to us from memory. These are the devs of the most consacrated rpg game ladies and gentlemen…
Wow. Can’t remember the last time I saw a game dev interview with just 4 regular looking dudes, who actually look like they might play the video game they make. Where is the non-binary green haired chick?
The dev on the lefts face is the same as D4 players . He’s just sick of hearing the same shit over and over and just wants it to die
Its both sad and sweet how many games I have not purchased in the last few years. Games that I would have purchase in the past, example: Diablo 4 being one of them, I just had a bad feeling about it. All my friends bought it and encouraged me to do so. Funny how after a few weeks they stopped talking about the game entirely. Like they were defeated by another shitty woke game.
These 4 dudes look like a pack of gremlins
also why is asmon shilling so hard for blizzard? like any of these changes matter to him.. he dont play D4 anymore.. hes doing this for free WoW mounts lol.
More like Joe SKELE
This is all really nice but I’m probably still done with the Diablo 4 because they don’t play their own fucking game
The Pit = Elder/Challenge Rift from Immortal
SARPG, where the S stands for Snorefest.
Just a couple of average Joes making an average game
all these people talk like execs using buzz words to make it seem what theyre saying is more than what it is..I stopped listening to anything they had to say at that point
its like watching a hostage video.
so i have to pay for them finally going from alpha into beta status? o.O
“The PTR will have bugs”
It was PTR all along!
I have conflictions about not being able to find stats that arent for your char. I enjoy farming for items for alternate characters. Would be cool if there was an option
46:08 someone stop my laugh!!!
Hello, diablo community… Not “greetings”… He lost me right there…
“Lets purposefully make the game shit on release so we can update it months later to how it should’ve been and make ourselves look good”
They are giving Duriel a break. Take 5 Duriel. Its Andariel’s turn 😂
The only people that are confused on what an ARPG is, is the Blizzard staff. We know exactly what to expect from a Diablo-like ARPG. Strange how a Diablo game can’t be more Diablo-like.
im an avid diablo fan i loved 1, 2, and even 3 but diablo 4 killed the franchise for me i wont be doing anymore diablo games
dont forget, these updates are gonna come with just as many screw ups so theyll have more things to fix next season. so they keep ya looking forward to the fixes next season.
These campfire chats have the same energy as a public execution
Having hope on a team that has just released shit for the last 10+ years is crazy, now all of a sudden they know how to make a good product?
Bro on the left end trying to corral the convo immediately. He probably knows D4 players aint in a joking around mood. They aint trying to hear no boiler plate jokey discussion. Your game and possibly your entire company is in shambles. You should be more serious.
Diablo 4: Hey can I copy your homework.
Last Epoch: Yeah, but change it a little.
Diablo 4 can’t be saved. So many things about the game are bad or boring.
Honkai Epoch 4 😂😂😂😂😂
A company that allows its competitors to school it on how to run itself, is gotta be a losing bet. I’ll wait to hear the reactions to the actual season 4, before playing again, because the PTR could easily not translate into anything meaningful, based on the past performance of these greedy, clueless idiots.
Too Lilith, too late.
i stopped playing wow jan and cancelled my subscription i only played D4 to lvl 21 and thought it was lame and i played wow snice 04 😉
all these updates theyve been doing for every season are all just common sense things that shoulda been in the base game on release lmao. it feels like the made the game with making it as bad as possible in mind so they can keep people playing as they fix all the things they did on purpose, and drag out the fixing of it for as long as people will put up with it being shitty.
A systems ARPG? so like an ARPG which has different systems in it? like every other ARPG? hmmm… idk man, smells like bs excuse to me…
I feel so bad for these guys every time they have to go to these chats
Diablo 4 2.0
So you’re telling me instead of going for a Howl From Below with low fear chance, now I need to go for a greater 2 Howl From Below with low fear, and masterwork until I get a perfect low fear roll?
Wait when they mean minion inherit all stats, does that include Thorns? Razorplate would be broken
This game is so bad guys. I couldn’t even stomach playing past level 30. Though pretty, is definitely the worst Diablo in the franchise in my opinion.
Here’s my issue: These changes are good, mainly. It’s Ike they read and actually plan to implement a lot of changes based on the community feedback they’ve been getting since launch.
My issues is that they’ve lost all my good will. After 2 seasons of mostly trash, posting similar fireside chats promising changes, then completely failing (or giving wild time lines for changes that realistically would take a team a couple of days to implement), what reason do players have to go back to the game? My time is spent better elsewhere.
For those still playing, I’m happy for them to get some changes here. But will this revive Diablo 4? I actually hope it doesn’t, because if this works it continues to reinforce the notion that Devs can release incomplete games, treat their community like trash, and keep saying sorry for months.
Game patches shouldn’t be a tug of war between the Devs ruining their product and the community throwing a riot. And it’s wild Diablo has followed that model.
What about cosmetics are the diablo 4 team members going to change the way you can earn them not because a lot of players are getting sick of having to pay to get cosmetics, or for example you play the game witch makes sense and you get different level drops or loot armor weather they are good or horrible, now if only the dev team would do this or addresse this in some that we the players can profit from in good way.
First… Hollow knight is not an arpg
no bro you already made the best one it was ****DIABLO 2****
Diablo 4: Last Chancepoch
Both D3 and D4 are empty, I wonder where all the players went.. “hint” Many bugs and robots have taken over, will you do your part?
51:33
They use a lot of useless words. These devs have no idea what they are doing.
“Diablo 4 is an ArPG but it plays like shit” ….Joe Shely is completely lost…..
the last chance to save this game was last year in summer. No one even remembers diablo 4 anymore at this point
What I heard was, ‘we nerf base items so you can power them up to what they were before’ with that base stats starting lower.
fuck diablo 4 and this crap….
I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say, fuck D4, I wont play it. I preordered this, was so fucking excited, and it flopped, then it flopped, then it flopped again.
You want to bring me back? Start making playing it worth my time once you make it ” Good “. Im not buying you BS Seasons in hopes its good. I dont trust blizzard anymore. They are not the same company, they wont be again.
This game is dead, make it a live service and walk away.
So sad that Diablo 2 had items, unique or otherwise, that directly changed how a lot of player skills function. People LOVED this kind of thing, and yet Blizzard is so adverse to doing that despite in some extremely rare cases. I loved the immense difference I felt when I first tried Druid and got my first ever Tempest Howl and how it changed the game for my completely, but it really is the outlier because there is so few items like it.
They would rather give you just static damage increases and call it a day than to make items that actively change gameplay. Really sad to see. It’s not surprising anymore, but even Last Epoch had build defining/skill changing items that we just don’t see anymore.
Atleast i can do PITs again like in D3 😀
some of these changes could also work on the 3 button simulator known as Last Epoch
So, they are gonna break my build, again.
Fuck this shit. I’m not respecializing and searching for a new meta.
When will developers realise that they should have a vision on what a game should play like from the very beginning and don’t make 180 in order to save their sinking ship every six months.
I’m outta here.
iT’S thEIr LaST cHaNCe
Lmao… This game will be around for a long time.
Someone tell me if they said anything actually useful please, I cba to watch these goons speak any longer
It was so funny that they have to invent a new subgenre to explain what they are up while obviously not understanding that the make a Hack and Slash game ^^.
L4ST DPOCH
No timestamps.. Yeah no, absolutely not going to watch this crap for 2 hours. The game is beyond redeemable. The developers have already proved to not make this game for ARPG community. The build system is one of simplest I have ever seen in build focused games. I am not going to install this game again. That system will never get as deep as I would need it.. So I will drag my ass to watch that PoE stream, and thats about it. Have fun in your little dying game. It is not for me.
Imagine going back to D4, and in a few months, you have to pay another 2x LE price to play the Expansion. Which by then would be 4x the price of LE. And the builds still look boring with one S-Tier build that everyone plays. Nah, bro, I’m good thanks.
“What distinguishes this Game from the other games that is in the same space…The most important decision is…More Money”
RIP they are simply to far the rabbit hole. Hopefully blizzard’s Redemption Ark will still happen in my lifetime
The negativity surrounding d4 is so exsausting, so many people constantly complaining but offer 0 solutions.
It’s incredible how inept management/leadership and apparently development is so bad at Blizzard. They need to get out of their blizzard bubble and listen to people.
I think I did get my monies worth out of this game initially but have no desire to play it anymore.
These are good changes. Itemization has leveled up greatly
So only play the even seasons and not the odd seasons, got it. Thanks for the update!
I forced season one on myself. I don’t know if I can play this game anymore
Joe Shely needs a Lexapro brand deal
Diablo 4 is a diablo-like
I’m happy I haven’t spent a single dime on this game since release, I knew that it would just be a dumpster fire in the long run. With the developers scrambling to put it out with a fire extinguisher, against an inferno from Diablo himself. I hope that this team can really recover and make real promising progress in the future.
10 minutes in, nothing of worth discussed. If these guys are this bad at presenting during work meetings then they should hire someone else for this stuff.
So now we have a new game type.. System RPG, WTF kinda crap is that. Sounds like you have to work thru a spreadsheet of some sort.
PTR. They don’t wanna pay for QA. Congrats D4 gamers, you’re hired without pay. 😂
Looks like Joe has completely lost the plot. Like damn….
Given that I played D1, D2, D3 consistently for the past two decades but no longer have any interest in getting to the end of most D4 videos (or to play the game anymore), I think it is too late to save D4.
what are these guys smoking, never in my life heard anyone call elden ring an ARPG
Diable 4 dev team ” hollowknight is an arpg” “diablo 4 is diablo like”. Very insightful Diablo.
Is this the new quadruple A? SARPG?
How are these people still keeping their jobs when they have clearly demonstrated they are not capable. All the shit they talked about should have been worked out before release… we are now a year out from release. Blizzard get ur house in order.
When will they add a new class or more depth to the existing classes
soo, they are testing if the boost works so they can sell it?
They’re a marketing company who tries to make games with hopes of cashing in on nostalgia
Can’t wait for POE 2
If someone RMT’s an item, it has zero effect on me as a player – I don’t care. I don’t want my gameplay impacted because the development team can’t manage RMT. It’s stupid and lazy and for $70 with premium full-priced planned expansions, I’d expect a premium experience where these things are handled and not lazily cut out due to mismanagement.
Praise the lord of other companies creating great mechanics and giving blizzard scripts on how to make a good game. 🙏
The peope who RMT are the ones who would be willing to pay for the 100 CAD mount, Every cosmetic. Why punish them. Also theres safer ways to stay under the radar like getting legitament obtained gold from low or no income foreign players, gaming cafes children in India, china or your average american kid doing this for gifted fortnite skins making diablo gold, farming gear as there only way of making money then exchanges them to sellers and the sellers becomes friends, have history with the customers then trade it off the gear.
OMG GIVE IT UP D4 LMFAOO ITS OVER POE AND EPOCH ENDED YOU 🪦 ☠️
Well, I haven’t played since season 2 start. I am genuinely curious to actually come back and play now. WASD movement, better items, more interesting systems and damage…I thought D4 good, then D4 was bad, now D4 GOOD again….well in two months or whatever. Gives me time to play Dragon’s Dogma 2
The OG devs on the left look so beat up, no longer bright-eye Devs that they were in the 1st D4 videos. They have that 1000-yard stare. They’ve seen hard times daddy, Hard times. I hope the new changes fix the game, I’ll check it out. I wish them luck.
Well, I heard ptr is gonna be paid.
Their goals are the opposite of D2 in many ways, and that’s why this game will always be trash.
This made me want to play the game though. Maybe Microsoft’s mgmt will be positive if they’re pressuring blizzard to give players what they want
This actually all looked pretty cool. Shame the actual dungeons are still terrible and boring.. go get this from one side, go get the same crap from the other side. Bring them to the middle……. jezzzzzz.. I suppose there is always rifts now, sorry i mean pits
Crazy Idea here I know…. Why not just fix the items make them more like Diablo 2, Add in DIABLO and have a story mode that lets you farm gear?
Each campfire circle jerk is worse than the last. At this point I’m not even mad anymore, it just makes me sad that none of these devs realize how dumb they are. The fact that indie studios are blowing them out of the water at every turn is just… How can they be so blind? It boggles the mind.
Sometimes I even start to think that I’M the crazy one for wanting a video game to be fun.
is this game still EXIST?
This is all fine but like… If F2P games like LE and PoE can incorporate loot filters, why can’t a $70 game that you know will have multiple paid expansions do the same? Seems like they just decided to be lazy and drop less items than to just give us a way to sort through the items that were already dropping
They spent so much time just to update something that are already existing in rivials?
Hopefully Game gets better and better, i have some good hope for that. But they have to listen way earlier to players or in general to their community.
they pretty much saved the game with this one, season 4 might be playable
this stream was a huge W for us who payed for the game but dumb asmon viewers don’t seem to notice
they really want the game to fail
I’ll definitely be playing season 4. Love the aesthetic of Diablo so hopefully these changes amp up the game for me
42:40 : Ah Ha! … Yeah! … Sounds Familiar! Las**cough**t ep**cough**och
I mean all these are good improvements…… that being said why the test server?? 95% of these changes are just tunning?…..
RMT is NOT a PLAYER problem… its the devs problem… so their solution is to restrict and punish trading for the players?
Someone wake Joe up!
I had a blast in season 3 for two weeks. Made a 100 barb feels 100000 times better than launch. Super fast xp tons of mobs, less inventory mgmt. However never got my uber unique needed to fully realize my build and stopped playing. There was no point to level past 75 besides the promise of getting my build completed. Never happened.
The reason for a ptr is free quality testing since they laid off theirs
If I never heard the word “feedback” again it would be too soon.
They put so much emphasis on the P O T E N T!
Lmao.
If they want us to be excited about finding items, put the items in the goddamn game. At a location that we have to have to find, with a difficult boss guarding it. Not this RNG nonsense
Honestly at this point, I just feel like the people in charge just don’t play games or know what makes them fun anymore.
These teams are too big, and there are too many people on it that have a vision for what they want, when in reality it’s not what the players want. They simply can’t react fast enough to feedback, or they ignore it entirely because they think they know better.
That entire ‘lets frame diablo 4 as a systems arpg’ part shows this. They think they know what this game needs. When the players are just telling you it’s not fun.
I am so sick of live service games that they go in to fix after the fact. They simply don’t include people, players in the development of these games anymore. Beta’s and Alpha’s aren’t necessarily for them to get feedback on the systems anymore, at least not with these big companies. It’s just simply a bug test these days I find. I remember when you used to get invited to beta’s a year before the game released, not a month. And you could give feedback on the game and it would be changed. I used to be involved in so many Beta’s back in the day, was one of the original players for League, first 3000. But now, stuff just hits these games and when you give feedback, it takes them years to listen to it. If they even do at all.
You used to sit someone down and have them play the game and then ask them what they thought. They just don’t do that anymore. Now they spend 6 years making a game, and then 3 MORE years after it’s released ‘making it better’ from feedback and players leaving.
The next season will be the season of rmt lol. This had to be hard for these developers they fought to keep there game how it was and now are changing it to what the players want.
whats sad is they don’t look proud to be in front of diablo 4. They know its mediocre and its hard to sit, chest up, face at the camera, and be proud of your game when the feedback is quite the opposite. I can sympathize with that. However, they just need to get their shit together.
We have been playing last epoch in last epoch We trade things all the time you pick up little bones or whatever they’re called while playing which allows you to trade with your teammates
Some good changes in reducing garbage items and bloat. Maybe they have been playing Last Epoch or POE because that’s all those games have. Great we can have a chance early on but, there needs to be a pity system for players who have no chance of getting those rare items. Which based on rates will be a lot of players.
“you could call diablo 4 a diablo like”
Exactly joe,that is the fucking problem.
These people are figureheads and make none of the key decisions. They can only give lip service and string people along. The marketing team and executives drive the decisions. This is the case for every AAA game in the Western market. The reason POE doesn’t suffer from this problem is it’s owned by Tencent. When it comes to art, profit can’t be the main driving force or you’ll get nothing good.
Oh my, over the last few years Joe has not aged well…as if something is bothering him…
Nice to hear you like this one, Asmangold.
Didnt see the whole video but I see in the start that u finally seems to like the upcoming season 4 🙂
My dawg joe is cooked
Crazy when the game is in dire need of overhaul they don’t put their DEI employees front and center to explain the intricate systems. Wonder why…
Man, I gotta say this is some primo uncut copium rn bro I’m actually hyped to try the PTR D:
Is it me, or did Joe Shely sound like a man interviewing to try and keep his job?
All these itemization changes are great but im still left asking myself, what content can they provide that will keep me engaged and want to actually farm these items? Im sick and tired of endgame being, “oh welcome back to your 100th nightmare dungeon and oh wanna run helltide again?” We desperately need more avenues of access to gear and we need more content, the people are owed that for sticking around
Hello diablo community, the whole 9~ ish people
Last Diablpoch looking kinda good Pog
Did you notice they went through all the like for like games of arpg but they refused to say Diablo is Poe like game trying to avoid that comparison at all costs.
Pubg was able to have a separate Public test servers game on console 4 years ago but it’s asking to much of little ole blizzard to do the same of course
Blizzard the company that made D2 and everything was called a D2 clone. Now D4 is called PoE clone.
damn i might come back. we will see how ptr goes though first. have not played since release week 1. actually kind of excited for this.
I played my 1st PoE league in Affliction and I really liked the crafting system… this is a Crafting for Dummies which I like b/c I didn’t fully grasp crafting in PoE
no D3 paragon system ? not playing.
dragons dogma 2 diablo 4 season 5 and elden ring dlc its going to be a good year for gaming
yes PoE doenst have a PTR. PoE also has a lot of jank and bloat and it takes them multiple leagues to fix the jank
I strongly disagree with their game directors philosophy and what he considers “the most important.” I don’t think I’m coming back to D4 y’all.
masterworking = weaver’s will
I loved how you skipped the common sense stuff! Thank you! Love your videos!
Literally just copying smaller company ideas and renaming it lol.
“There’s a lot of ARPs out there…” just don’t compare us to the good ones.
since they bringing all d3 features from 12 years ago, when 10000% damage set items? I want my items to be impactful.
Ptr cuz no one knows how to play on the team
i think the dude on the left is the only one who even knows wtf is going on
The problem is you are trying to rip people off and the game is not fun!
I’ll believe it when I see it
What is the point in the best items in a game being right at the end of the game? Are those items transferable to another game, console or PC, so I can begin my journey and have fun with these items? Major flaw! The other issue is good items that last for several levels and then don’t scale and become useless. Give me something to work towards early to mid game that requires a good deal of effort that once obtained breaks your game, which in every instance in video gaming history means FUN. Not in PVP which is always a sh**tshow anyway, no matter what game.
It’s very good news IMO. Excited for how this will feel. I stopped playing after season 2.
I played at least 1 char to lvl 100 every season in D4. I am one of the very few persons who actually enjoy the game on the internet. However, it’s very hard for me to go back to D4 after playing Last Epoch. Farming end game content simply feels so much better in LE. Not to mention the crafting system. I really wish D4 gets better, but I will stay with LE for now.
games just to boring.. was nice to play on fresh characters twice but every single season just to experience exacly same gameplay as the last one.. then nerfing whats good insted of buffing unplayable classes is any1 even playing mage since ball lighthing was nerfed ? play barb or gtfo out of game is pretty much msg by blizzard.. and the expansion thats gonna cost what another 70$ for 1 extra class ?👌
59:45 They even mix with the weeb gacha game’s mechanics LMAO
So they consider it a ‘Systems ARPG’ but it has the lamest/simplest systems in the genre? interesting…
Joe needs a nap
D4 Is getting ready for its official release! We’re out of the beta build boys!
they gonna start selling gold in the shop for silver that you buy with green
As a future game dev myself, I’m watching and taking notes on this video about “how one can fumble horribly at making games and still gaslight people into thinking I’m one of the good ones”
What is diablo4 this is a valid question lol.
Diablo is a loot based action role play game aka an ARPG. Don’t know why they are confused about what diablo is.
Watching this while playing LE, makes me love the game even more, glad Diablo is doing something and maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe looking to play it for the first time AFTER all these updates are implemented and WELL RECEIVED by the community.
deff agree on the loot filter topic , i look at loot filters like wow addons. sometimes they look dope and are customized and all that. but the setup and learning curve to setting them up is just a serious wall for a lot of players it takes way to much effort esp in a game made for console and pc. overall just logging in and not having to mess around with extra stuff is a w
Tldw: no they can’t.
please clap
Menacing Pieopora spotted!
They can either make a grindy game that is for hardcore people who enjoy that style of grind. Or make it to where a normal person can farm+finish a build within a reasonable time-frame. Flip-flopping and trying to cater to both audiences is only going to lose both. Me personally, I enjoy finding BiS items fairly often, and do not play games where you are required to farm hours upon hours just for a chance at an upgrade.
Call me oldschool, vut I hate systems where half your stats are useless
It will be nice to see PoE 2 with most if not all the systems that were present in previous game and take big ol dump on the Diablo 4 showing you actually CAN bring in content/systems from previous title. At this rate Diablo 4 at season 10 will be what it should have been on release.
Let me help you dev team, add runes and runewords to your game or something similar creating a real economy and reason to be excited for drops on a regular basis other than just items you wear. You’re welcome.
Meh, never touching this game again. I regret buying it. I tried to give the game a chance after loading it up again to try last months patch and still found myself getting bored after playing it for 20 minutes. The Diablo series is dead to me.
They just want to move on to other projects 😂
PTR for PC only so that console players can’t test how things work on console… stupid. Well most likely game update will flop again anyways so doesn’t matter much.
Sigh…back to Last Epoch. Not even 4 minutes in to watch this.
So do your characters on the eternal realm stay exactly the same with all the same shitty bugs???
They look like employees forced to do that
And thats whats wrong. Gaming was about creativity in my days, like a painting or a song
You cant force that, results are a soul deprived marketing product
Thats why double AA company are making the biggest results rn
Man, this all sounds so familiar for some reason. Oh well, I’m sure it’ll be great this time.
I really love the story and aesthetic of D4, but the systems were really not very fun. It is good to see them for season 4 listen to the fans and copy other games to get this to be good. I feel like me wasting $70 on this might pay off. I will reinstall in May.
People pissing about games copying games – Blizzard literally invented ARPG. This is their platform. Without Diablo there would be no POE. Chill.
Everything here is a massive W. So Diablo 4 will officially launch on may 14 everyone.
D4……. Good??😮
they could add nfts to the game and the reputation would stay the same
1:17 “and, for people who don’t know, public test realm is kind of like a private server”
WTF is this dude yapping about “private” server when the name has “public” in it.
Is this the best lv of technicality that Blizzard have in their company?
Diablo lV is dropping on xbox gamepass March 28th. Ive never played a diabo game before so I will definitely be playing it. I think that this is going to add a pretty good surge of players, at least initially. If it runs good on xbox I may start playing it regularly.
So many of the fixes were asked for on day one but then blizz decided to nerf everything cool into the ground. It took the better part of a year to deliver what fans wanted and I’m not feeling like it’s worth it anymore. I can literally wait for poe2 or pick up anything else in the mean time. Remnant 2 and other games came out just in time to make me forget about season 2 and on tbh.
There’s no saving this train wreck…
Being a proud Diablo 4 dev is definitely harder than being a streamer, just look at Joe’s face.
Player test servers always end the life of games. xD Look what happened to endless-online
They did a video with people who can play the game I’m shocked. I’m still not interested in their game though.
Anytime I see/hear comparisons to D2 I always have to remind myself that Blizzard didn’t make Diablo or Diablo 2. Condor games did, and were later purchased by Blizz and had their name changed to Blizzard North. People keep expecting Blizzard to return to when they made good ARPGs when they never have in the past.
The actual developers look seriously stressed the guy that started off talking I think is just a PR person his hair isn’t falling out and his eyes aren’t five times as big 😂
Diablo 4 it’s an ARPG + Candycrush game
YOU CAN EASILY TELL THAT HE PREWATCHED THE VIDEO
Pretty bad when a game hasn’t even been out a year and they having to rework a ton of stuff, like gear. And much of this is pretty obvious stuff, so why wasn’t originally like this?
we’re getting closer to how the game should have been at release. beta is almost finished.
Nope. *Goes back to playing Helldivers 2*
Is it really so damn hard to just copy D2’s homework when it comes to items? ffs I hate crafting/upgrading, I hate getting the same legendary but it’s 2 lvls higher so the stats are 3% better, and I hate my spells doing more dmg because I found a bigger sword.
When he said do the math I almost choked to death on my coffee ..LMAO …
D4 is heading in the right direction now
Maybe now it’ll be almost as good as Last Epoch
Tempering is not the same as forging. Tempering is softening metallic crystalline structure to reduce hardness (brittleness) generally by applying heat after forging and quenching to. Forging is reshaping metal into a desired form.
well slap me on the back and call me Molly they did it son. Son of a gun that was so unexpected and welcomed. Thanks guys really mean it
a lot of this sounds really good, BUT why was it NOT like this from the start, some of the devs creating orignal ideas behind D4 should get bloody fired.
why did they even introduce these hyper specific affixes, when they now all agree they are crap. Would have been nice to get some reasoning for the design choice in the first place
PTR only being on PC, to start, is silly.
Still got my free Battle Pass from Deluxe edition 😀 never played after lvl 100 in pre season. You think it’s worth to use it in s4 or I just wait they give me my shield paladin i want 🙂
W
What is Diablo ? It’s a Diablo 1, Diablo 2/LoD and D2:Resurected. The end.
What is scam ? Diablo Immortal, Diablo 3, Diablo 4.
I doubt they will apply the ptr feedback
So they knew they had way too many affix stats 🤔. We can only hope they improve. It’s just hard to start over, over and over again.
“pushing back S3 a few weeks”, few weeks = a month, yeah
51:50
Still no WASD tho…
This interview is a perfect example of the problem with Blizzard. They spent 90% of the time explaining what they’re gonna explain, why theyr’e explaining it, what the explanations for the explaining are about, and then only 10% of the time actually talking about wtf the whole point of this thing was.
That said, I will say that the ideas they’re yoinking are great, and I will give them points for desiging a better UI for this than Last Epoch has.
Good to see season 4 is gonna nail it well . Let’s skip season 5 and just go to season six after season 4 .
Dude on the far left looks like he is about to go on a killing spree
D4 player that stopped playing as soon as I got to Tier 4. Itemization was the worst thing about this game. (Opposite of what D2 was in my opinion.). Haven’t been interested in coming back, till now. Maybe they finally moved enough in the right direction? We shall see.
Can someone tell me why not having a PTR would be better? I really don’t get it
Where’s paladin? Where’s Diablo?
The Last Epoch and PoE players are complaining about Diablo again
the intro alone had me like the game is dead. full stop.
they are done for, D4 was such a let down, They let Last Epoch have a chance and all of their players base wont go back just because now you fix the issues that was ask for.
At least we don’t need phones with this pointless PTR.
Big W situation
They finally listened. I may check d4 out again once these changes make stable release. I wonder what took them so long to make these meaningful changes?
Whats that? They talk all about who evry other game have is that a satire?
Painful to watch LMAO
jfc another last chance?
how many last chances they’re given until d4 players convinced its scuffed.
Farm mats to add affixes, then farm mats to summon bosses to get uner uniques, then farm pits to masterwork your items.
Are they turning Diablo 4 into a shitier Korean MMO? Lost Ark does it better.
Hollow knight isn’t in the same universe as Diablo 4.
Last chance; Real last chance, real last last chance; last real last last chance 😂😂😂
Most of the vidieo those guys look like “why am i here?”
Like I’ve been saying, “ARPG” doesn’t mean “Diablo”. It means action RPG, where RPG is a turn-based complex character building game like Pathfinder, Fallout 2, etc. “Action” RPG are those old turn-based games made real-time, thus “action”. It doesn’t mean “a game where you kill screens of enemies to roll loot”. Which apparently lots of Asmongold viewers have no idea about, probably because they’re too young.
This update looks very promising. Anyone know if they’ve made it less costly/tedious to respec your character?
How did it take a year for this to happen? Everyone was talking about the shit itemization since season 1.
just play last epoch at this point
Can’t we just forget about D4 and move forward. We all know that Blizz won’t do good for the franchise. It’s just a tool of money sucking by using the name and nothing more. Blizz is a braindead company and people just needs to accept it and move on. D2R still a better game compared to D3 and D4 if you have at least some gaming taste.
watch them undo all these amazing changes get reversed once the player base comes back 😂
then again, i don’t think microsoft would approve
These guys look so miserable. I don’t feel any excitement from them and they don’t look like winners to me. Get better people
They are an embarrassment it’s a flop and they should just give up on the trash full stop. End of discussion. 🤷♂️
L4ST DPOCH
safe word “tempering”. Tempering x1000 times…
More monsters to kill less space running between packs….Plz
a SARPG. yes they sexually assaulted me out of my money for the rpg that i thought diablo 4 was supposed to be.
April Fools!
First 3 days of playing this game at launch I said to all of my friends, why doesn’t the Kotik update it would solve so many issues? For the life of me I can’t understand the hell tested this game as a developer and said this was a good idea the way they launched it.
Example. You have a Necro. Would be nice to be able to have a Bone Hydra??
How they describe problems and are like “ya this isnt cool or fun, now we will not do that”. These problems were designed and intentionally put there in the first place. Now they realize the game is insufferable to play, swoop in, and act like heroes.
Poor Blizzard. Activision destroyed you. Activision needs to change their name to NoVision.
When you aren’t a fan of the game you say wild shit like “what is an ARPG” and compare Diablo and hollow knight.
Im so Back in
What is fun? here:
1. Replayability by randomly generated spots of the map so each play is different and you have the fun factor of exploring everything like in Diablo 2
2. Looking at your no regen health and slow regen mana and tackling these problems by finding skulls and gems and getting enjoyment out of that
3. Each new hero starts fresh, no shared inventory and gold, brand new unexplored map, new adventure.
4. Many skills that lead to many builds
I mean POE has a third party website you use to trade.
I guess technically games like Hollow Knight and Hades are ARPGs, but just by definition of those words together. 🤣 there is action in these games and they do have character progression like RPGs….
It fits if you completely disregard what ARPGs are historically 🤣
Diablo 4 is a gamer farm. That’s all it is. That’s the system we hate.
I always feel so bad for joe Shelly he looks so miserable always everytime lol.
The game has been shit since launch. That’s when most people figured it out but stayed for the campaign cinematics which were awesome. Then after playing for a week they realized the game was shit. It has been shit ever since. The only way to fix it is to change the core dynamics of combat and since that will never happen, then game will continue to be shit. Nobody is playing it. 10+ million copies sold, 7k players on Steam and most likely less than 20k playing overall.
Joe looks disheartened. Please, help us understand why we should let you farm us.
We paid for the game! Give us the content.
The problem with a PTR is that it splits the player base. People playing their character that matters and people trying out the changes.
IMO New World did this and it killed them. Yes, they are slightly different game mechanics, but essentially the only difference is 1st to 3rd person and a tab target system.
Edit: obviously that wasn’t the only thing that killed New World, but the PTR came pretty soon after the game dropped. They split their player base immediately
Don’t forget to buy the PTR-Pass for 20 euro to get access
Get rid of the cash shop! Make ALL of the items free drops in GAME!
The TDS is strong in this group.
Please, look at what we’re doing so we can continue to try to farm you in our cash shop
I haven’t played the game since launch but ill actually try it again now. Thanks last epoch
Now, they need to work on improving the skill trees.
Why are they playing favorites on these previews? They spend a lot of time on updates for some classes, and almost no times for others.
mr editor can u speed up every pause this baldie does by 2 times or 4 maybe 16 sometimes
last epoch like
Diablo 4: Shadowlands
People meming about them saving d4 but if they actually do make it good and a proper arpg I will 100% be playing it again I haven’t played since season 1 and put it down because it was a joke, outside of the systems the game looks and plays beautifully I just need it to actually have the ARPG feel and not a shitty single player game that feels half cooked.
“Saved” is a strong word. It will definitely be better but we get all this gear to do what? Farm Duriel? Not about it.
I’ve noticed with reduced items start a new game will be a pain
Sounds like Diablo 4 is coming out of Early Access after a year.
i do have one question : Can i get refund after this season gonna suck like all others ???
They always make the level you are meaningful to the items you drop…. It shouldnt be like this. If I am level 60 and feel like I can do harder content, I should be rewarded with good shit. Not something that my level says I should get.
POE2 GONNA END THIS GAMES CAREER HELL FUCKIN YEA
If this game came out without the title of Diablo do you think people would still be as mad about it? Or would it just be a less then stellar arpg with a niche community that enjoys it and that’s it?
Idk if asmon said it but so many people said “OHHH OHHH OHHH WHY DONT THEY DO A PTR?!?”
This guy sayin “why do they need a ptr?”
CAUSE WE ASKED FOR IT CAUSE THEIR QA SUCKS
Dude on the far left looks like he dosnt even want to be there.
With the masterworking, instead of resetting it all. You should be able to reset the item back to each 4 rank breakpoint in addition. This would make it to where if you got the boost on the stat you wanted at rank 8 you could reset it to rank 8 so that you could masterwork it to rank 12 to get the greater upgrade so you dont lose the luck you had with the previous upgrades.
More like: Sucks Ass Roleplaying Game (SARPG)
ptr is a way to get feedback without pissing off players
D4 and LE both didn’t hit for me. Joe Shely’s giving it a honest sailors attempt I commend him for that.
When is Blizzard going to pay us for coming up with a better design for their game?
They got a headstar by launching before Last epoch and POE2 and they got their money. Now they will play catch up from now on. To get back on top they need to redesign the experience of end game, the core not the details.
I’ve lost good faith with Blizzard. I doubt D4 changes are fixing that, sadly.
Why couldn’t they just listen to the fans and create a good game, like D2 used to be in it’s time
That monologue from Joe Shelley is legitimately one of the most awkward, painful things to watch. It doesn’t even make sense. I can’t even figure out what he is trying to say. It’s frickin brutal. I want to stress puke every time I watch it.
They still dont have a fucking multiplayer party search. Its 2024
Honestly everytime I open the game and it instantly wants to take me to the shop the little need I had to play evaporates and I close the game
Diablo 4 is definitely a AARPG. it got similar elements to other well known AARPG games
Still D1 and D2 are better games
As a metallurgist…. Forging and tempering IRL are two separate things 😂 but yes Last Epoch
Well they almost had me. Removing death elixir and not adding a passive to classes ruined it. Not interested.
This is basically we don’t take responsibility of our failures PSA from D4.
Pretty sure that Joey had a full head of hair at the start of this mess
I loved your coverage in this video, but the food crunching was unforgivable 😅😅😅 it’s the worst noise according to my brain. It makes me queasy and distracted.
I am a long time fan of you and fortunately you are not usually doing mukbang content.
If you are going to eat into an open mic, at least make it non crunchy food 🙏
I still hate mouth sounds, but crunching is the most intrusive version of that.
Due to this video I feel slightly excited about D4 now, despite having uninstalled the game long ago and never even got to max level, because I was bored and felt too lonely playing it.
The item changes and item clutter reduction is music to my ears.
I will try Last Epoch and then decide on whether to give D4 another chance.
Thank you for covering this.
It would be too boring to watch without critical commentary.
Necromancer Minions being crap was my quit moment with D4 as I really wanted that build to work and be fun. They might be able to redeem themselves yet.
Joe just looks like he’s fuckin DONE with this game right off the bat haha
Good to hear! Too little too late for me personally though, I’ve moved on
im getting stressed i like Last epoch atm. But also a dire Poe gamer I also want to play this “new” ptr D4.. what to do? 😀
remove these devs. and put someone plays the game in.
They need the PTR because they fired all their QC staff. The players are the unpaid QC staff now.
its not nice of all the whales to leave the game already. how is blizzard supposed to feed their children now?
Ahhh yes the reason i left. MINION NECROMANCER WAS TRASH. Glad they realized what some people quit for
I pretty much remember the most beloved part of Diablo (1-2) was getting loot and trading. Hardly sounds like an “sa-rpg”, more like a looter/trading arpg. I don’t understand, why Blizzard wanna avoid trading so much.
Sacred 1 and 2 are still the best arpgs around
“The world is a vampire….” – Joe Shelly
Enhancing boring skills with aspects and 1 piece of gear to make 1 bad as_ build at level 100? SOO boring a ride to get their.
1 on far left: fuck this can’t possibly go well
Middle left: oh fuck I gotta word salad enough that maybe they won’t realize the state of the game
Middle right: try to look like I want to be here. Just keep trying.
Far right: this may not go well but that paycheck is gonna be coming and daddy needs a new toaster oven. Gotta give it 100%
Its good to see that Blizzard is close to launching the game out of beta.
D4 Season of copying Last Epoch
@5:00 What… What do i do with muh handddsssssssss…. What the f*** was that opening. Who let him cook, what the hell was that
Dude on left said let the people decide. Fire the rest.
@asmongold should u start a campaing to make illegal purchase from mobile games. It’s ok to have them, but not more than 20 dollars or so
I mean they could have at least credited the original creator of forging, I mean tempering
Unless they give us runewords that aren’t copy paste from d2 I’m still out
They finally played the game.
“Diablo 4 PTR coming soon that will boost you straight to Endgame so you can check out all the systems D4 has to offer.” is CRAZY when we all know what’s not there.
I’m actually pretty excited to check this out. Still enjoying Last Epoch, but glad to see them listening and improving. I’ll definitely be playing S4
Obviously we’re missing a lot of patch notes but if they are only nerfing things that are used often that doesn’t make other stuff better, it just makes everything equally bad.
in a year or two, all these guys are gonna have to shave their heads
When the people in the community engagement event look like they would give up a months pay to be anywhere else… wow, shocking d4 sucks, they don’t care at all lol
Just skip to 51:20 and you can see the actual state of the game.
If you piece all these developer videos together you can see the evolution of Joe’s despair
joe looks like a hostage being forced by gunpoint off camera to make a video about why his game is not terrible
The more campfire passes, the more they look miserable and in search for food. Almost like they’ve been stranded in that room for a few years now. “Fix the game or never get out”
D4 bad
I feel like I’m watching a group presentation from the kids in the back who never came to class..
The problem is that Blizzard can’t hear us over the sound of their PR staff screaming “WE ARE LISTENING! WE ARE LISTENING!”
Case in point: A 2 hour stream of their devs rambling about a dead game instead of listening to their HUGE amounts of feedback.
uber uniques are so rare to get that i grinded few weeks and got nothing, had fun back then and after that stopped playing.
Overpower, lucky hit, vulnerability, fortify. They should get rid of these nonsense systems
The tempering system is just awful since it’s MANDATORY 2 rolls on RNG affixes AFTER you found half decent item from mobs. With these chances, players will see ZERO none unique items that wont need tempering with. Before players had to go through items in the inventory – Now they need to take the very few decent items that are dropping in the first place – and spend EVEN MORE TIME in the tempering window. Horrendous call by the dev team that is still too stubborn to put loot filters in the game to improve the actual playing experience.
i thought these were pretty good changes
Isn’t Joe the same guy that said overwatch 2 has no pve story mode…. I don’t trust him lol
Force the devs to play their own game on stream, 8 hours a week (1 workday). then you get feedback by yourself and dont need to use the players time AGAIN. The ideas and explanations they come up with speak for themself. These guys arent players/gamers and therefor CANT create sth. fun.
I really hope they can fix d4
did i miss something or they still ignoring basic skill?
D4 bad
Joe talked for a long time and said nothing. Like wtf.
Its so weird to me that they take so much inspiration from Last Epoch now. I mean, were they so arrogant they didnt play it before 1.0?
The game is dead bro move on
These poor men sound so defeated and rightly so.
POE dev test the game themselves. D4 dev cant even play their game thats why they need PTR
still no 3rd slot for sorc enchantment?
So they’re bringing the stats back to Diablo 3, from the sounds of it… Joy… I can’t wait to only stack crit chance/damage/mainstat.
Good bye Diablo.
Funny, the more I hear them talk, the less I trust them.
haha these guys are goofs lol.. If you honestly think Diablo will ever be good with these guys at the forefront lol. Walking battered wife syndrome simulator.
why did they have to call it an SARPG, all I can think with this company is Sexual Assault RPG lol
i just do not get it, why are they doing that to the game? are they mad at blizzard and trying to ruin its reputation? or Blizzard don’t care and know for a fact that there are sheep who will just spend their money on their products even if it shitty???
D4 requires what happened to FFXIV, full reboot, discard the game and make a new one…
Next season it’s updating the skill trees.
I need TLDR summary
ded game ded!
I haven’t played since launch. I never felt like I was getting stronger. It felt like I was playing a slot machine and I was strong for a short period of time and then went back to being weak for the majority of the time over and over and it just wasn’t fun for me
Ultimate chase items shouldn’t be just “max tier” that’s boring.. they should have game changing mechanics that truly alter the character’s feel. That’s what made Diablo 2 so epic.. with Hoto you got battle orders which was a barb skill you can boost your life on any character class if you held the weapon. Or how about enigma allowing all characters to teleport completely changing your ability to farm and play/pvp… We need big mechanical changes in gear with unique mods specific to the epic legendary items…. Not just “oh cool it’s numbers are slightly higher and my char will do the exact same thing just slightly better”
I would have so many ideas they could apply.. Hire me Blizzard lol..
Sure! We will act as a whole control board and quality control for a multi billion dollar company for free. I couldn’t imagine doing something for 20 years and actually get worse the more you do it….
Affixes are stupid fixes tbh, not really solving the underlying issues where bosses glitch and transpose randomly in their spot.
For them even Call of Duty is an ARPG, they are so confused that they don’t even know how to categorize D4. Pathetic company ActiBlizz has become.
Paladin needs added ASAP
THey dont want people making money off their game. Only they can make the money. @23:39
The happiness here is contagious…
Too little too late. Alot of ts should have been in the game to begin with. Poorly made game. Blizzard lost me when they released a game that is just meant to make as much money and time as possible vs making a good game people WANT to come back to
How can you save something if the something is a garbage from the start.
The 3 guys on the left look like they have had a rough few months
plz test our game for us (for free)
yeah nah. let this game die. let the series die. Blizzard is a garbage company. Get the D2 team to make D5 and I might consider playing again
How did Joe Shelly get his job? That guy is not the smartest guy in the room when he visits the Paradise Hotel reunion.
Fix spawns when you die in a dungeon.
If they fix level scaling. Then to me. D4 is saved.
my analysis that this game will reach season 5
NGL, I forgot Diablo 4 existed. Too busy playing Palworld, waiting for Dragon’s Dogma 2, and playing Borderlands 2 and Halo 3.
That stun granade build is going to be busted in pvp lol XD >:)
Overall, significant boon to the game. Next major overhaul has to be the shit class ability system. Waiting til an expansion to start reworks is a tad insane.
I’ll never play D4, but this does make the game better.
Systems don’t have to be deep at all..
No passion, no inspiration, and no love for the game they made. You can see it in their attitude.
“Elden Ring is aRPG but also souls-like RPG,
Diablo 4 is aRPG but also bad-like RPG”!
Lol these guys have to roast themselves.❤
Anything about raids mentioned?
Big game companies are done 😂😂😂 thank goodness
this fireside was really good.
i keep hearing that helltide is disliked… honestly helltide was the only fun thing in the game after getting to 70+ having all your renown done etc… just that helltide was so much worse then everything else that it just felt bad to do…
Random bookmarks for myself: 43:36 51:08 57:05 59:40 1:13:24 1:46:26 2:00:00
Bro Diablo 4 is far superior to any other arpg. Use the net to steal a build on all the others you claim to be better and theres zero challenging content there either. Just stop the madness.
Does anyone still play Diablo 4? Thought it was dead on arrival. Quite myself after reaching about level 20, most boring experience of my life
PTR = Don’t have to pay testers
They really trying to convince us it’s not an ARPG because they facked up the game
Campfire talks should start with “Hello Rob!”
Devs: “Now we’re giving you all the good stuff because you don’t want to play it with the shit.”
Players: D4 was dead before it was released and no one will recognize that….until now…thx!
Devs: No!, we call it Improvement…plz save D4!
Players:
3 mins in im already bored and turning it off
They on season 4? Wasn’t this released only a year ago?
For me tempering really looks like Minecraft’s enchanting system: you loot a book with random enchants, you find a cool enchant on it and a good target item for that enchant, you go to your anvil and you apply the book’s enchantment (maybe several!) and there we go. And if you find another book and your enchanted item can accept the new enchantment – there are some enchantments that can’t coexist together – you just apply it again.
Kind of sad that wasn’t a thing in Minecraft Dungeons…
So PTR testing SHOULD be for the testers at Blizzard, I shouldn’t have to do your work. Am I gonna get paid to test your game? Sucks but not for me
At a base level character building isn’t cool or interesting in D4. You can change drops, legendaries, gear acquisition as much as you want but if at the end of the day there isn’t a really cool character building system to dive into it doesn’t really matter.
PoE has its huge skill tree and gemlinks. Last Epoch has mulitple skill trees including skill trees for skills themselves. Grimdawn has a dual class setup with one skill tree per class.
D4 has the more bare bones skill tree that is “choose if fireball crits or fireball has dot”, its not interesting, its not engaging, it leaves nothing aspirational or thought provoking.
They should just chill. Regardless what they make, YouTubers are going to cover it from Hell to Kingdom Come no matter if it’s good or not. The internet created that monster by offering an infinite amount of free press.
Dang so Diablo 4 is a Diablo clone😂
Through PS+ monthly games I recently discovered and got completely consumed by ‘Nobody Saves The World’. A two year old indie game you can finish in about 15-20 hours. Looking at this livestream, it’s puzzling how Diablo’s combat doesn’t even edge out a 2 year old indie title that is free for all intents and purposes.
Who really cares enough at this stage to sit through a 2hr livestream, and not hatewatch it, but honestly be interested in what is at the end of the stick.
Just goes to show all the money and cold blooded bodies in the world being worked to burn out levels can’t beat inspiration and loyalty to a vision.
Blizzard humiliating their devs on stream, It should count as abuse, like the walmart dance.😅
I cant even really listen to what they are saying, a blizz employee trying to tell us anything at this point is just noise in the wind…. lie to us for a decade and all of a sudden i dont care when your jobs are about to not exists. Let real human beings make decisions that actually improve things ya nobs and not years later after you have tried to convince us a shitsandwich tastes good.
Might as well call this diablo 5 with all the system changes
So many great changes, but unless they design seasons that make sense in the eternal realm and offer them there as well, I won’t play again.
I’m not interested in hardcore, or leaderboards, and I don’t find leveling and grinding for things that I already had not fun.
It’s fine if people like the current seasonal model, but there is no reason why we don’t have both: There will always be enough players for seasonal realms to offer proper competition and there is no economy that casual players are involved in.
And I am sure that there are many people who would be more likely to come back and buy a seasons pass for each season if they didn’t have to throw away all their past progress.
And that’s in Blizzards own interest as well.
The devs must think their customer base has stockholm syndrome. Seriously couldn’t pay me enough to waist the hard drive space.
Good, keep making changes. I’m surprised it was this much, I was not expecting anywhere close to this much of an update to items at this point. 🙂
still boss fights are closed behind grind wall and that sucks. why i just cant run through the dungeon to any boss in a game? why i have to do the boring grind of summoning materials?
Every part of this game was horrible other than the graphics…they have atleast a year and a half left of constant patches for it to be decent..they fuuuuucked upppppp
My tip for the future to D4 Team:
Please improve your games before you sell it, so you wont have to save it!
PTR = we have no vision, we don’t know what we’re doing and we don’t do testing so we’ll let the players decide
Better than just having no vision and no testing I guess, but still not very confidence inspiring.
The biggest problem for me with D4 is the dungeons are to similar to each other if you ignore the aesthetics, they need to make the dungeons MUCH more varied not just in style but in substance
These guys are what’s wrong with d4
the look of so much shame
why do they keep looking each other in the eyes? i mean, are they looking for someone to save them?
4 seasons an beta over!!
Diablo 4 is free in my local library. No one wants it.😂😂😂
Is there a TL;DW?
The “define RPG” topic has been around for years now and it was a mistake to wade into that off the bat because you immediately stoke the fires of debate. To be an RPG typically requires character progression of a type that allows user decisions to impact things..in other words, playing the role of the character. Whether this be in story choices, character builds, etc. A metroidvania barely qualifies by maybe having weapon options (most dont) and literally nobody is going to call Shovel Knight an ARPG, we’re going to call it a metroidvania. There is a reason we have different terms…
I not doing PTR, I already pay $80 dollar for an unfinished game.. fuck them not testing your game for you because the dev can not get it right.
That guy had more genres of RPG’s than there are genders.
“junk items” were never a problem. Junk is subjective. The issue is that the attributes/item modifiers are trash.
Great improvements. I think this will make the game feel fun and different again. Hopefully, they might fuck it up lol.
So changes to make sub stats to no longer show up on a weapon glad our paragon board doesn’t make us get to a minimum or anything…..
There’s gotta be some kind of endgame for me to care about gearing.
just give up on this trash game
It looks like these fools are being held hostage and forced to make this 😂
I’m so glad I have yet to play this game and it’s coming to GamePass
Spicy asmon is gold 😂
Just look at how well the final fantasy franchise has been its all systems as well they keep some core things but each game is completely different from the last the problem with diablo 4 is that we’ve been doing the same shit since diablo one it’s like omfg who gives a fuck about the “skeleton king ” and the “the butcher make a completely new game for fucks sake sick of the same shit oh the horadrim deckard Caine then the lesser evils rise for expansions always the same shit
If the soul of the game is the “systems” and not the gameplay… you’re doing it wrong. 😅
Where are all the diversity chicks they have to have at the start of the game and supposedly love diablo? Hrmmm… I like coming back to the basic and listening to real fans.
I knew game was garbage when i found out its d3 engine
if they really listened us, they would give us our money back
I imagine the devs watching this video like the disappointed cricket meme guy. Just hands on the hips, scowling at the monitor.
listening to the philosophy of these devs, I can safely say that I’m never playing diablo 4 again. They have no clue what they are doing.
I had planned to get back to this game at the end of 2026 but this has changed my mind, as they say “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”, though they just plagiarised the ideas, all good as long as it makes it a better game.
They just need to give up they flopped hard
The devs was like, oh you can farm dungeon? Let’s reduce the exp!
Oh you get drop from this event?Let’s nerf it!
Oh you can spam this skill? Let’s add its cooldown.
They spend the first 3 months, slowing down player’s progress. And when they buff something “we adjust this skill damage from 23% to 25%.”
These devs are out of touch with player’s feedback.
Having a PTR doesn’t mean they will change what’s suggested lol
Look at these winners haha
The biggest problem is the legendary affix system. Its awful. Diablo 2 did it right, had fun itemization, yet for some reason they are obsessed with legendary affixes to items. What we want is more uniques, more set items, etc. Diablo 2 and POE have literally like 900 more different unique / set items.
Everywhere forever
Just let Blizzard go
If some mechanics are good and are copied that’s fine – they are not getting any points for innovation but as long as they have some unique differentiating factor it gives more people a reason to try. A little worried though about the RNG. There’s RNG in LE as well but you can just farm a lot of affixes and then customize an item the way you want but that doesn’t seem to be an option here. The cateogirzation for type of affix is good but there should be some more control.
maybe ill give the game a try in PTR lol then i dont have to grind i can just test out the game?
I feel like Blizzard just uses the PTR to test for bugs. They just release what’s on the PTR anyway, even if it’s disliked.
They’d have to rebuild the entire game. It’s awful. The launch was bad, the gameplay is meh, and you are overcharged for everything. The systems are trash. Each class has two boring choices for their abilities, D3 had 5 per ability. Leveling felt terrible and boring and the story was overwhelmingly mild. I stopped playing the week after the game came out. Classes never felt powerful or fun. The season pass was more like “season ass”.
I already uninstalled the game and have moved on. I’m sure there are a lot of players that have.
cool maybe the game will be good by the time they come out with Diablo 5 and then spend 3 years fixing D5 after they charged you a premium. too late for all this imo
All the “copying from LE, PoE, etc” are hilarious to me, considering the irony that THOSE games carbon-copied the progenitor of the genre, the very same game & dev team in the video, Diablo. Everyone influences everyone else — that’s how art & games work!
Thanks, shareholders.
I’ve seen jollier hostages on Taliban videos.
For those saying their tempering is a rip of Last Epoch… of course it is. BUT less easy to use because you have to go to find a blacksmith to do it, whereas with LE you can just do it anywhere
“get your react faces ready” this man knows what’s going on
I deleted it an hour into this season and I’m good nothing they can do will be enough games already OLD. Also I’m console so shove your ptr where the sun don’t shine. Great idea to piss off half or more of your players
It’s like the faces of meth. But instead its faces of diablo 4.
13:10
What he means is : We gave you only junk till today.
Now we give you all the good stuff, because we gave you all the shit!….plz Save D4!
I will only play Diablo 4 again if there is a portal to Dragons Dogma 2, or to the refund page.
Love your content but I made it 4 minutes in and we’ve slapped another letter on backronym city. An SARPG. With aspects of diablo-like……it is fucking diablo…….I don’t think they even know what they want out of their games anymore and if their I’d true vision left at Blizzard it gets snuffed for systems that reward length of grind alone or buying items. More and more I simply keep up with the lore of these game I.P. that I used to be head over heels for but now aren’t really rewarding. The stories are good for the most part. But it’s not enough, I can read a story, I can watch a movie. I want to get lost in an rpg and most of them suck anymore.
Bro I love LE. Not related to this video at all, just wanted to say it.
Why is the whole aspect system not just a normal crafting system? Drop components, let us make whatever we want. The whole aspect system is just a bandaid over a bandaid. Also catering loot to your class is not the way to do it… Never giving barbarians things that aren’t tailored to barbarians destroy trading, alts, and any hope of a player economy.
I believe this guys having the so called Camp Fire to really training for poker tournaments in Vegas…😅😅😅
Joe just Devsplained that we arent playing an ARPG we are playing a SRPG. I wonder if POE and LE know they arent making ARPGs.
They are adding diablo to gamepass,
Diablo 4 dev team sounds like the abusive husband/wife.. “I swear I’ve changed. Please give me one more chance.”
Don’t get suckered, they will still treat ya like shit. Don’t fall for it.
Joe and Joe look rekt😂
Is Last Epoch is the D4 PTR?
Dang i didnt know Billy Corgan worked for blizzard
if you cant beat them copy
Want to save d4? Redesign the whole “skill tree” and completely change itemization. Totally redesign dungeons and endgame.
I’m so glad I never paid for this game. Everyone said it would get better. They argued I was just a hater and I couldn’t see the devs visions and that I should give the blizzard team a chance. D3 I said ok it’s not bad but it’s clearly we’re away from what made d2 great. Then immortal, I’m really close to just not buy any blizzard products and I won’t be purchasing preorders and I’ll wait till the game comes out to get an idea of what they put out. Saw what they put out in d4. Microtransactions, shady business tactics.(big surprise from activision right?)😂 I’m staying with Diablo 2 hd and classic forever. All blizzard/activision has proven is they don’t want to give the community what they want because they’ve already have ideas to try to pull the most amount of money out of your pocket.
yawn, they still only have limited skills to upgrade with min branches that limit the builds for the class.
Why are they smelling their own farts so badly? Like wtf is going on?
“While at full Life, your Skills unleash a divine barrage dealing 17 damage”
That Joe guy could put Cocaine Bear to sleep when he talks.
Saying hollow knight is an ARPG is like saiyng Fortnite is a MOBA because it’s massive, online, and a battle arena.
The real question people should ask themselves as why did it take this much for them to finally start making real changes that are more for the player than their own greed. This just shows their far from genuine it is going to do it again as soon as I can get away with it.
I haven’t played Diablo in a long time so does this video about player concerns they are trying to fix that they’ve been ignoring for so long and now they try to address it so the game won’t die? 😅
So they fixing the same problems what D3 had also in the start…
While i dont play anymore, it sounds like some alright chsnges. But i cant help but feel it sounds a bit like diablo 3 and people didnt seem to like that game so im wondering how long this will actually satisfy players
I am so glad I never bought this game. These people keep me outside touching grass.
I actually really liked alot of what they said especially codex of power stuff
Fix it whys it so hard
Fool me once and shame on you, Try to fool me for the 4th time? lmao. Cmon blizzard. you still havent resolved the issues from release that players have been complaining about!
Its always to late when people want to make finally listen much like the cheating partner who swears they will stop if you keep them.
Dont fall into the naeccistic relationship of the consumer and predators.
*COPIUM OVERDOSE*
It’s funny that they are adding a ptr after firing almost all the Q&A staff, essentially anyone in ptr is free labor on their part 😂
Great update!!!!
Joe is always like he has a critical effect on him.
I noticed something about Zach he doesn’t know how to take criticism or an L for what he says or had said in the past. Like god dam dude. Everyone is wrong at some point in life. Accept fault man
I like the rock wall
It’s done it’s game over for diablo IV
“I would rather not have a PTR”
Then don’t play it, problem solved.
advertising better games at the start lol
Looks like I will check this out in season 4! Good job FINALLY listening to the community!
Yes. You eating chips is annoying.
It’s annoying how bad they are public speaking considering they do it so often
No wonder why the game is shit, when the game director is comparing Elden ring with Diablo. Right, Super Mario Bros is also al ARPG or a JURPG (JU from JUmp….). He stupidity level is over 9000….
So how many $65 horses must be sold to implement these changes? /spit
Look very good
sorry i got no time to watch 2hr video , is it fucked or is there another chance ? thank you for the help
Like every video it’s insane how many people didn’t watch it. These changes look awesome, glad to see it. And yes I love POE and LE, and hope D4 gets to the point where I can constantly get that ARPG fix from another when one dulls out
But it’s not better than you had, It’s what you had in the previous game that they didn’t do in the new game and now they brought it back. I get the point, these features should have been in from the beginning. There’s no reason to have things that people liked in the previous games and just not do them in the new one.
Y’all like that one thing we did?
Yeah well we’re not going to have it in this one.
Hey guys we’ve been listening to your feedback and after months of talking about it, we decided we’re going to do this thing to make the game better.
“competition breathes excellence” but then slams exclusives.
The big question, are they going to support base game after expansion. If not there is no point in picking the game back up. Bliz/D4 lost all trust for the game over the past year, why would/should i give you another 70$ for something that will be broken on release?
d4 less bad
The over thinking in just defining the game adds zero value. Much like many still on the staff evidently.
How are they not fired yet
These fireside developer chats almost make me fearful to play when it comes to Game Pass.
It’s annoying they do this now, because u have season 3 of sod around similar time, can’t put effort into both.
I think this is a huge W for d4 coming to season 4. Anyone who doesnt agree does not want this game to be better. They just want to hate bc thats what the “cool kids” are doing.
The Game is in steam sale right now, should i buy to give it a shot?
Last Epoch should get them back and add $65 mounts.
Just fire everyone and hire a new team lol jk
when i watch this i had low hope of playing the new season but with what they said i think i will be playing it
Bro all in all. This is Good. But damn, Joseph looks so miserable. Hope he is well.
To be honest, the changes sound good. Ignoring the fact that they are partially copied from other games and renamed.
Let’s see if they actually do them right.
I feel sorry for Joe Shely…
Because the people in charge where assholes and needed to be fired, he was *rushed* to the position of Game Director and he clearly was not given the proper training and has to force himself into the position
INFINITE UNSTOPPABLE FOR NECROS???? Necromancer gets the buff unstoppable when golem uses his hability. Decrepify plus cooldown reduction with corpse explosion dot, plus golem aspect cooldown reduction, plus skeleton 3 sec cooldown reduction: YOU ARE UNSTOPABLE ALL THE TIME. I have played with the bone golem and the taunt is literally always active, plus tendrils, and if you add thorns that mean more lucky hit, more cooldown reduction. Let’s see how that works but looks very nice on necros.
And then add azurewrath, with all hits from dots, thorns, skeletons mages that freez too, everybody freezing.
Btw razorplate only have one stat, so you can improve 12 times with master crafting, that can achieve incredible numbers of thorns, and every of your minion are going to have that effect, an enemy hitting one minion is just rip, and if it is in area goodbye boss in 4 hits. And now imagine if the aspect of “thorns in area” work for every single minion you have… Now it does not work but with those changes who knows!
Large companies just gain to much bureaucracies.
Amazing how they have been doing itemization for almost 30 years and still don’t have a proper theory and design to show
When I watch Japanese devs talk about their games I always learn something new. You can just tell the devs know what makes their game good, they always give you a deeper understanding of why you enjoy that game you enjoy… these guys just waffle.
-Framing the type of game to give it an identity because they lost it themselfs.
-Steal systems from Last Epoch because they lost it themselfs.
See the die hards get all hyped because hey, now the game is saved.
Cringing out of my mind.
Hmm, I’m actually gonna try out S4 for sure, seems like lots of good changes. Can’t wait. (Gotta see if there is room on my HD though, jeez I need a new one..)
Diablo 4 -> Last D3poch
They are stealing the good parts of last epoch which is good, it means they are not as fucking dumb as we thought
Most of them look real young, like they know everything already.
I came to see the trainwreck.. but I’m not kinda excited to try the new season. Kinda wish it was here. Since I really do want to play an ARPG now but I don’t want to spend on last epoch or try to get into poe again, for that I’ll wait for the new game.
Asmon: “Why dont they ask for player feedback?”
Asmon: “Why are they asking for player feedback?”
Jesus christ of latter day saints, man.
I really like the changes to Last Diablo.
I cant believe these changes are actually in play….Holy shit!
To fix this game they would have to completely strip it down to nothing and start from scratch
Joe went from smug, condescending , and arrogant, to please play my game, let me describe what a ARPG is.
looks amazing!
Wow was this boring, They are explaining all of the small tweaks to things that should have been in a $70 game loaded with MT’s day 1. We took the wand and changed it from 22 damage with 15 fire to 20 damage and 17 fire. It’s like they are trying to plead with people, Look were listening now spend all your money on this overpriced broken game.
SARPG, jfc.
yeah I think I know now what the issues with this game are…
You’d think this was a panel on curing Alzheimer’s or something.
i haven’t played since Season 1, but you have my attention, Blizzard.
Unpopular take. One guy has a pentagram and they develop a game with devils and enochian symbols and darkness, It’s obvious why the game isn’t succeeding and why they all look drained. Evil takes its toll.
anyone still believing in d4 is the kind of person that will believe any political promise.
glad the game failed and their reputation as well 😂 – not touching the game even on gamepass fawk blizz
DSP’s pahdcast is making more sense than this and he’s mentally insane 😂
They need to make the first expansion free, I cant believe they have the gall to even try to charge us for it. 😭 🤣
All of these X “CHANGES” X should have been inside the game at launch with the $100.00+ purchase. They need to release a NEW CLASS into the game FOR FREE.
This is the best yet most shameful press conference to date
last epoch should fuckin sue lol
Where the hell is the cow level?
He’s added eating into the videos / streams now 😂😂😂
On that Ludwig pill
Incredibly difficult job to mute yourself, god streaming is a challenge!
Some of these guys are so overworked none of this makes sense from the sleepy stooges
Right off the rip in the opener… in the 20+ years I’ve been playing WoW/Diablo… never once have I played the PTR. Ever. I’ve participated in alphas/betas for a bunch of games. But never in any test server for any game I’ve ever played.
Put it live. Bet you’ll get way more feedback.
“I don’t get why they need ptr” simple, free testers
4 minutes in and I’m already tired of listening these guys speak. What’s next, explaining keybindings?
You know why, the Devs don’t play their own game. It was clear as day from beta to season 3.
Season 4 is the nail in the coffin and the d4 community is so blind they don’t realize it. Tell me where do you think LE got their idea for Exalted items? They got it from D3. And what implementation ultimately destroyed D3 itemization and power creep, Ancient and Primal items. The fact that most of you people don’t realize they added Ancient items to the game when we clearly stated we don’t want it.
People don’t see the issue. Ancient items simultaneously added a layer of power creep, while adding more trash loot by obsoleting a tier of gear.
D4 Dog Shit
Adding an item filter into D2R would fix D4.
frozen orb builds are gonna be OP get ready boysss!
does the dude on the left actually work at blizzard or does he save kittens from burning buildingss
I want to have a full refund
d4 system is bad and trash
talk about yellow paint, but there is nothing more immersion breaking than having to watch press conferences on game systems.
this is all antithesis of what I want in a game.
are we there yet? game good now? fuck this shit.
PTR = Paid Test Realm
“Hey guys we made the game closer to be what it should’ve been at launch. Again.”
What the hell is Joe talking about.
Firstly, there’s no need to discuss how diablo 4 is different from anything, because it’s now.
Well that’s not entirely true. Most projects do copy paste approach and add something new.
With diablo 4 they managed to do copy paste and actually diminish features.
You can call it systems arpg if you want, but let me tell you something. Every game has got systems.
Problem is, diablo 4 systems blow. Unoriginal, uninspired, creepy copy pasta.
Seriously, this game makes you appreciate diablo 3 more, because it actually tried something different.
Give us those paladins with the whirling hammers!
Where does a smile stream at
Diablo 4 is a hack n slash ARPG…
Diablo4 made me bored so quick.
Worst investment of last year…😅
My issue is, where was this insightful design… during development? yknow when they’re supposed to do the major reworks?
They’re trying. I think that’s worth recognizing.
Wanna fix Diablo….fire all of them there.
Finally something different new metas tired of seeing same build every season
Deciding to put knowledgeable competent devs who understand what game needs and what changes to do instead of the diversity hires… Bold strategy blizzard bold strategy
What would be more impressive is if they just admitted D4 is a failure and moved onto their next project instead of forcing people to work on this garbage and lose interest in their career paths
Why do these people still have their jobs? Serious question. The game is an utter failure.
They’re not trying. If they were they’d scrap the game and start working on a real Diablo 3.
Holy shit I’m 3:30 in and the way this dev talks about games tells me everything wrong with D4… LMAO
The second guy who spoke.. yeah don’t need to invite next time. What a completely bizarre intro
You know how “good” a game is when it’s changed so much in such a short period…
I wonder if the platinum shop will work in PTR xd
Anothey way to decribe it is a mess
now if they copied the talent tree system from last epoch it would be perfect
Diablo 4 is a POSARPG
Thank god, I’m already getting bored of the mobile game last epoch
Diablo 4 sucks
Well we know that they had devs that sucked at what they did, they had no idea what the players would like, they were smelling their own farts soyfacing out while handcrafting this hot garbage.
They made very good progress and now we’ll see what they will add to the endgame and stash space. They have still way ahead of them but damn it’s starting to look good!
That initial framing comes from a simple internal problem: He’s had to do this framing very strongly in his own team, likely because there is significant divergence between the people making Diablo 4 and those that play it – this lends to a LOT of time spent aligning on “What are we trying to be” within the team (this leads to over-scientification of the problem among few who are trying to explain the systems to others in the team that are just trying to now understand what the audience likes and tend to move into “Tell me what I need to do and I’ll do it” – which is not a problem for game teams on PoE or LE because the developers ARE the intended audience.
How do we deal with these indie studios showing us up? How about we just say Diablo is a SARPG instead? Would they fall for that?
Overall opinion is that it’s good they’re finally embracing the risk to let players break the game. Specific criticism is that you end up in the same issue as D3 where you don’t really play your build until you get the unique that lets you play it.
I don’t like a lot of their item upgrade designs because it’s just more MMO and mobile upgrade BS.
fucking amazing these clowns remove prefixes and suffixes from the game and expected it to work
Na man, im out, gl blizzard I play last epoch from now
I think intelligence being a dead stat for barbarians is a design flaw why can’t barbarians benefit from a higher intelligence somehow
2 hours, you’re better off watching a film in less time.
Why does bro pay an editor, just pull a northernlion and upload vod sections yourself. Basically what they’re doing.
All I see is four middle aged men unable to understand why the sky is falling.
I thought the seasons were how they tested things? So they need a test for the test?
Blizzard is a legit graveyard for games now .
They look miserable that translates into the game. A miserable boring game.
New iron golem is always angry. =P
D4 combat is trash.
Joe is definitely sleeping under a desk somewhere because he hasn’t left the office in 6 months
My brother went to a college for An infosession to study gamedev and they said to him: if you like gaming you are in the wrong place here. That is the mentality educators in gamedev have. It isn’t gonna get better in the industry like that.
They have Razer Synapse open, no wonder they crashed. They have malware installed on their PC.
Not having a ptr is just a bad take lol. Ptr does not neccessarily mean, try our game so we can try our best to have something worthwhile playing on launch. Some people are just bored of the content early and just want to try new stuff out. Ptrs are mostly uses by people who want to enjoy the new content beforw release, and then they jot bugs down that occur during. Asmon saying dont have a ptr realm? Just to say, what? If you have a ptr realm you know your game sucks so ptr is put up to salvage scraps?
to late to save it imo..
D4 has shown that every lesson learned in the past has been forgotten…
Bro, hollow night. im turning off the stream. work on it for another year
Why people still play this game. They played you at the start and you’re still just falling for the trap.
Massive W
So many things should have already been in the vanilla version of the game. People can beta-test this game in this new test real, how many months after its release, wtf?!
just stop already… ive already given up diablo 4 after season 2…now your forcing us to do PTR for a broken game after almost 9 months since release….
Worst purchase and i cant even refund….
Damn poor Joe, dude looks soulless
POE2 Info today will totally eclipse what ever they say no matter how good this is.
Blizz should hire David Brevik (the man behind D1)just for 1 time to explain what ARPG is😆
I might actually play d4 for the first time since release with these changes.
And holy shit playing minion build on necromancer will actually be fun?!
So LE was the alpha test for D4’s Season 4? Perhaps that’s why it costs half the price of the early access beta xD
Blizzard stealing from LE and PoE, how times have changed, from pioneers to copy cats that cannot do anything right :/
I’m happy to test the game for you on the PTR. Where do I send the invoice? My hourly rates are 100 dollars per hour.
They really need to make crafting cheaper during the leveling phase. I shouldn’t be spending millions to fix pieces of gear that I’m going to quickly out level or be stuck at a level because I can’t find gear that increases my damage just to level up
Blizzard isnt listening, they are copying what other games are doing. hehe
If you developed a game and need a PTR then you most likely need to replace your entire dev team , and having pepople on your panel when some look like they’re on prozac you should probably do a cheer up pitch before turning on the camera or replace(just a thought)
They are trying to save their jobs xD
TLDR – DIABLO IS NOT SAVED
I love how excited they got when they started talking about the crafting and exalted drop systems in last epoch… I can’t wait to see next seasons theme of time travel…
Poor devs, stressing hard because of the decisions of CEO. You wanna be a game developer focus on mobile games, you earn 10x as much and gaming in the end is just entertainment.
I’m confused by the comments. This is actually a really good update, why is everyone still hating on this. Yes this stuff should have been in the game on release, but it’s definitely better now rather than never. It’s like Asmon said, you need to praise when it when people do something good so they keep doing the good thing.
Im convinced the insane quality of itemization and endgame in diablo 2/LOD was accidental
These are the faces of failure?
Joe Shelly reminds me of the HR guy from the Office
these guys still have a job? You can’t get one of the best studios in the world and design such a shit game, i would have quit on principle.
Good changes but most of this was feedback provided back in Alpha.
Tempering durability, yeap, they’ve been playing a lot of Last Epoch, LOL.
They had to tick some boxes with the gay Asian I see
I stopped playing after they wanted me to grind to lvl 100 every 2 months
You cannot save something with no soul. Blizzard hasn’t give a game that kind of attention since Diablo 2 first released. All they make now is they attempt to make profit.
How long did they take to enact this?
The game deserves to break and crumble.
Begone filth.
Oh, there’s a game attached to that money firepit simulator?
No other game is as bad as the sorry excuse d4 is. Absolutely pathetic.
They dont look very confident tbh.
Ass rpg, they said it themselves
oh ffs does this mean i have to install this game agaiiin jeesus
Problem is even if they get inspiration for how to fix their game and truly want to fix their game they will fuck it up in the implementation of said inspiration.
shit like this makes my head hurt. what is diablo? well, they fucking defined arpg’s with the first two titles lmao
I’m 1h in the video… great, but I’m still waiting for stashtabs… 😇😅
edit: I’m now on 1h 50′ and asking my self… “where is the overlay map…”?
NicE
So many people so mad its hilarious. Sorry the game isnt built specifically for sweatlords. If you dont like it, dont play. There are a few really good alternatives for all sorts of ARPG playstyles!
Most of these changes sound good.
Sad they decided to include trade, though. Trading is anthietical to the soul of the genre and invalidates any type of competition (iE ladders).
LEs Circle of Fortune should be standard to design diablolikes by
No wow is an arpg like Elden Ring
Joe Shely’s hairline is directly related to the playercount
maybe if it wasn’t a mediocre game that cost a stupid amount but is still pay to win. I’d be more disapointed if it did sell well
It took 4 seasons for this , smh
The crash… Unless they are taking real time questions then why make it live? Did they take questions in real time?
No matter what happens, we all say that necro skills are too weak and need to be buffed during the ptr lol
I haven’t given a dime to Activision/ Blizzard since 2018 . My life has been great, and I’m not bald anymore!! ❤
I’m at 1:34:29 and although I didn’t really play this game. Asmon seems to be happy about the new stole- added mechanics 😂
Why are the comments still so mad lol
When you call a souls game a souls like lol. I didn’t think I’d ever hear a from software game called a souls like lol
PTR is probably solely for early feedback about potentially incomplete/bad updates/patches.
Diablo IV has more press conferences than Trump mid-COVID. . .
Joe looks defeated LOL!!!!!!!!!!
So what i’m hearing is “We did a shitty job, so we’re doing a PTR so you can do our work for us”, gotta love been a failed game designer
POE has an alpha coming out witch in a way is a ptr
so did they rebuff the eternal realm?
This UI is painfully bad looking
If they make it offline option and put some easy 3rd party mod option, it should at least pull back some modders and players again. 😅
Odd how they all look at each other while talking, like they are scared to look at the camera, they know we mad lol
It’s wild how much money and time was used to make this game. Yet they come out speaking of “new” things to come that should have been there on release on a game with this high price tag… Guess this is what you get when u do diversity hiring instead of hiring for the most competent people. This is what “positive discrimination” gets you. Go woke, go broke. Last Epoch is ten times better game than this hot mess will ever be. Indie developers have been and will be the future of gaming, glad to see these money hungry big companies fail, good riddance.
Must be hard to make a game when it is focused on profit instead of player enjoyment.
oh yeah, i forgot about D4.
Glad Diablo 4 Finally launched and we can finally expirence it for our selves, and that they didn’t rush to release in an incomplete state, and we didn’t have to wait multiple months for them to get it right 😃
Full trade sweet time to buy gold and gear up.
Welcome bot overlords
Who are these kids? Not my blizzard.
You know there up to something that Julien dude from TPB has been sitting on the left the whole time. They must of made him ditch his cup of rum so people wouldn’t release.
Looks like a soy convention… 😂
This Pit system so stupid, they dont understand they need complex to Nigthmire dungenons like PoE do to maps, why i should run somthing other if i can run Nigthmare dungeon and get some other enter in dungen to do pit content and get craft items and also get exp for my glyphs, if i dont want go there i just not enter different way…. They dont understand they create Nigthmares but left them behind what not should be they need create contet AROUND nigthmares.
As i start my day looking at the auction house, and sorting through my now 60th tab of gear, i wonder why I should reinstall d4.
They’ve already lost my trust. There are too many other good arpgs out there whose developers don’t treat their players like shit.
I would categorize it as a top down arpg, or isometric arpg. ands the most important aspect of those types of games is how spells and skills interact with the environment.
So League of legends is a top down style game and it’s core mechanics are how spells and skills work within that environment , same with POE, or even RTS game how the spells and actions interact with the environment.
Could you imagine having a Tattoo based on this game specifically LMAO.
Question for the lead class designer: why were the skill trees dumbed down so badly from D2? Why was class balance not considered? What is the reasoning behind making an obviously worse game from D2/3 class wise?
Just scared these good decisions are only to make us buy the expansion and after that it’s just back to swallowing garbage until right before the next expansion.
No wonder the game is shit. The devs don’t even know their own genre
You can see Blizzard treats their employees like shit. How are you expecting to get a good game out of them devs? Look at their faces dude!
Blizzards level of desperation is now 3 out of 4 white guys 😂
Holding off to buy until s4 starts but i aint paying $70. That shit better get a discount 😂
Good timing, POE2 will kill them today with their announcement 😀
I was just saying the other day that it really sucks D4 was mid at best. After waiting for decade, it was such a let down. It is literally the reason I will never pre-order anything from Blizzard ever again.
Wait… D4 s4 good? 🧐
Last epoch did not need PTR because it just came out of early access and more importantly, they know their players and more likely than not, they play their own game. Blizzard however has lost touch on what the players want/need, they need the PTR as a crutch to bridge that gap, and based on what we have seen before, they don’t play their own game.
L4st Dpoch!
I have no words honestly, they’re trying so hard to get people to like a game that just fundamentally trash at it’s core. D4 will never be good and even if it gets close to being good, I won’t be there to find out.
It’s funny they talk about dead stats on classes not dropping AGAIN, they had to fix the same issue in D3 but they thought it would be okay this time again I guess. EX Intellect for barb dead stat.
All very good changes. Big W:codex, itemisation. Still big L: no group finder, no trade system, no filter…
I think the only thing that will save d4 is a battle royale mode
D4 bad
I think that joe shely was about to say, that the core game mechanic dosent work, and never will because they cant change the whole game. Thats why he mentioned elden ring, because that game feels so good to play and that game is build like diablo 2, but he keeped looking at adam fletcher, like im gonna say it, you cant stop me fool, but he choosed not to, because he could lose his job. thats was i felt
wtf. A PTR for a fucking Diablo game? A Looter grinder game? ARPG? Jesus what the fuck….. every fucking game of blizzard game has a PTR which doesn’t help them at all. Sure keep beating a dead horse with the exact same game design across all games. So glad I decided to not be a game designer
Nice changes
The PTR exists because they clearly don’t know what is good content.
is it me or did Joe lose half of his hair
Is sad Diablo WAS the game to use as example of ARPG, now they use other succesful games
So now I’d like to see some executives on screen explaining why it took them this long to do the things they clearly know people wanted. I’d like them to actually admit that they thought they knew better than their players. Still not buying a Blizzard game. We’ll see after the fixes go through.
The fact that they call their own DIABLO game a “Diablo-like” says a lot.
Thanks for these ARPG genres like Epoch like and POE like for giving this small indie game inspiration to improve them and get rid of blizzard-like stuff.
Listening to Diablo designers talk about Diablo, is like listening to a bunch of elitist billionaires talk about modern art. Self-aggrandizing nothings.
Blizzard died a long time ago
still LE crafting system better then this.
Diablo-Like is perfect way to describe it lol, its LIKE diablo but isn’t quite diablo
wow diablo 4
If they don’t make it available to play offline and couch co op offline, Then I don’t want it.
So by their logic Maple Story is an ARPG 😀
diablo 4 will always be a dissappointment
Joe Shely is prolly thinking of people he can poach to start a real AAA studio and leave this indie studio he works on behind.
Everyone of those boys looked and sounded really soft.
They turned off comments on their YT page lol
these guys just look so disheartened. its so sad
% Damage on Tuesdays
Why do they call it “crafting” it’s such a dumb thing to say when it’s literally an exotic item trade and there is no downside of bricking an item or anything.
So…Rifts and Item Filters, damn…if only Diablo III didn’t exist. I guess these devs never played prior games.
“Eyyy rpg”
D4 bad, D4 devs bad, POE good LOGIN
D4: Last Yoink Rail. I guess I’m gonna play this season, I hope it’s good this time.
Btw I’m ok with using something from D3 or D2, if it’s good. But don’t advertise it as if it’s something new, like for example I would like to see “Delve” system in Path of Exile 2 or “Expedition”
But it shouldn’t be copy-paste, like I don’t want the same creatures from PoE Delve to be in PoE2 in Delve as well, just change the monsters, renew them and improve the system if you can.
damn these guys are dead inside.
The most importat decision from blizzard perspective is how to make people spend 28 $ for 1 armor set transmog.
The rest is just them trying to fix the itemization problem they created.
Should’ve put PTR on April First and it’ll be more believable as an in-season joke
So weird and sad that they needed people quitting the game for a year to finally realize that the 100 different dmg affixes sucked. Guess that is the downside for them being a small indie studio 😏
Diablo 4 is finally leaving Beta and going to Alpha. Pay $70 for the expansion to unlock 1.0 in a year
This looks like some great changes but it may be too little too late. I’ll certainly give it a try (haven’t played since S2), however imagine if everything that was changed including in S4 was actually released with D4 at launch? It took them an entire year to make their game possibly enjoyable.
They should rename their little talking round to Dumbsterfire
This is terrible…. the game still isn’t finished… and it’s terrible. What a bunch of horse sh!T
It is so weird to hear Diablo get called an Action RPG. And I kind of hate hearing it coming from people playing the game…especially when they’re trying to introduce a new term to call Diablo. Diablo doesn’t need a new term, it’s a Hack and Slash game, which is a sub-genre of Action RPGs. It’s what Diablo was called when it was brand new in the ‘90s, and it’s what Diablo 2 was called throughout its long lifespan. Is Diablo an action title? Yeah, sure. But it’s a completely combat focused game. It’s a sub-genre. Action RPG implies something that’s more than just a combat focused game. Like Arcanum is an action RPG because it was a regular ol’ RPG like the creators previously game Fallout, only instead of turn based combat (or at least just turn-based combat, since it could be played in turn-based mode) it had real-time action combat.
i dont mind when some1 copy a good mechanic from other game that is good for the consumers! However i do MIND if 1 copy’s and comes up with an own idea and that gets copied and it would get attacked!
diablo 4 is so bad they had to create a whole new game category. lol SRPG? Shit role playing game.
Diablo 4 – Last Epoch Edition …
Well thats a healty looking squad omfg
I’m quite excited to play season 4. Shame I have to wait almost 2 months to buy hey, better late than never!
Edit: they could’ve left the plants in the game that would enable you to colour your armour… by combining it we can get new colours and shades. Preferably being able to have full on black armour… it’s lame we don’t have a black armour imho!
First 5 minutes: Joe explaining that an ARPG is an ARPG is a SYSTEM RPG, SARPG. Five minutes for me to understand that a game like Diablo 4 has systems, and that is the framework. Systematic frameworks are essential to understanding that OUR GAME IS TRASH.
How cany any of you begin to trust Blizzard on anything, do they think we have amnesia and a lobotomy
D2 is the blueprint build off that. Itemization changes won’t be good enough. The game needs to be reworked and rethought from the ground up. They failed and I don’t think I’m ever coming back to a blizzard. Over it 😴
Is mayonnaise an ARPG?
aaand the game crash in live KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK D4 alpha
SAVED
We are reducing affixes… padding, padding… We are adding more affixes… padding padding… We are adding even more affixes by introducing GREATER affixes…
WAKE UP people! they are just taking you for another spin, GL getting the item you want after these changes because it will add more and more layers instead of streamlining like you would hope for. Yes they are stealing some great concepts from other games… then they introduce them halfheartedly, until they start actually caring about their own product nothing will change.
It’s sad to see how they have lost their soul tbh… all they care about is making money these days and all a player is to them is another bank account to withdraw from.
No loot filters, no care
hopefully joe emerges from his slumber in time for season 4
Franchise is 27+- years old D 4 is about to hit s4 , yes please tell us what diablo4 is…cuz no1 is sure at this point
‘”systems arpg?.please no.
What about “bird’s-eye arpg (BEARPG or BEARPG). Every RPG game uses ‘systems’. Should FFVII rebirth be called a ‘systems ARPG’? That game has many mechanics partaking in its system. Nooooo the ‘systems’ name is so dumb. In no way doea it categorize the kind of game D4 is.
It’s a skycamARPG or birdsEye ARPG’. Please let’s fix this badly named category.
Diablo 4 is a monetization engine and little else. That`s what they mean, when they talk about systems. Diablo 4 isn`t designed for the players at all.
More Glyph exp pls
I love how the guy in charge of design or whatever for the OG grim gothic series is wearing a flower shirt. I can smell the corporate through the screen.
people still play this game? who here lacks so much self respect to still giving this piece of shit any time after the first season? I can barely stomach the fact that I paid money for this garbage in the first place…
This people are Diablo devs? In the last video others were playing and presenting the game.
16:43 first letter of every bullet point EOOA is Last Epoch theme music trolling EEEEOOOOOOAAAA
These are discussions they should have had…4-5 years ago?
AAAARPG
Is it saved yet?
to people saying stuff like: “Thank you Last Epoch/POE for giving this small indie game inspiration to improve their game” … remember these game’s Devs are all fans of the diablo franchise in the beginning and they copied tons of stuff from other games, why would it be a problem when suddenly blizzard is doing it ?!?
they all look dead inside hang on is this ai
Yo D4 devs, you need Demons with Guns, Palworld did it
Blizzard lost all my respect when the held off diablo 4 for a mobile game thinking we would all love that and made it a whale game
So, what’s the end game now… super Duriel?…ugh
Finally someone saying that a PTR shouldn’t be necessary. Thank you for that. They had closed betas and internal testing and 7 years of development and did nothing with it.
Dude got butthurt that his game was called an MMO lul redefining what an aRPG should stand for and calling Diablo a systems game XD
I thought you were supposed to trade?? How are you supposed to trade if you can only find strength mods on items? don’t those other stats also impact your character in SOME way?
Alright, so instead of filling your inventory with aspects you’re filling it with manuals. Understood.
Someone else already said it. Still too much build in the items and not in the character itself.
Great game! You nerds complain too much. As a husband I can play couple hours a week and i fucking love it. This Update is gonna make it even better. 🎉
there just making excuses
Imagine the quarterly earnings reports for a game with only 100k active players. They are effed.
Is that one dev losing his hair he looks like his world has completely crumbled a few months back he looked sad but now he looks like his wife and kids left and lost his house and his dog died he looks like he literally has nothing left living in an empty apartment surrounded by empty bottles like Jesus dude your going to put yourself in an early grave u keep stressing this hard maybe making VGs aint for u buddy
…SO the guy literally starts out with a “You don’t REALLY know what an ARPG is” spiel? We are off to a great start…
The guy with the pentagram shirt looks like he is genuinely depressed and upset that he is even a part of this. Also the balding guy used to have hair…
Diablo 4 has done so much damage haha
i wouldnt trust blizzard as far as threw them game not fixed yet
look at those guys faces.. they look restless!! 🤣😂
Classic game developers. Run their games as cheap as possible, act like they care about the game for a month until we forget about the bad and it’ll be worse than before in no time.
not even interested in the slightest in this overt cash grab masquerading as a game.
Microsoft and Sony are taking big Ls, bungie is proving to be a huge waste of money and Activision/Blizzard has been dogshit for years. These guys just sound like corporate shills, no passion whatsoever
They’ve totally justified the price increase plus season pass.
I started playing D2 again, can’t imagine deleting it to make room for 4
What’s the point of having a PTR when they’re not going to make any changes?
It’s basically just an advertisement. It’s like they think nobody has played WoW before…
Wonder if they have phones?! 😂
51:34 is what you were here for. Funniest Sh1t.
April 2 PTR? are they sure they will have it running, or will it be delayed….
I think we are off to a great start from here but i think Diablo 4 will be in a good state around season 6,7, or 8. I think since they did a major change season 4 season 5 you won’t see much it will fall off and season 6 slight change again and will fall off season 7 maybe an L and season 8 another huge change will happen again season 5 or 6 i think the only W will be the new DLC not because of the DLC itself but because it’s something new new class new map and maybe some new weapons and that will hold people off till season 8 so every 4 seasons major changes 😂 next changes i can probably say coming skill tree for all classes
Unless they completely overhaul the skill trees, this game will never be good. No point building on shit foundations. The game is just not fun. Melee rogue literally only has 2 choices of spenders (one being garbage and the other boring to use), unless they change that, I won’t be coming back.
“Sleepy Joe” Shelly
“Diablo 4 is a systems ARPG”. Bro, what?
Lmao blizzard doesn’t even know the genre his game is called dungeon crawler and compares his game to non dungeon crawlers that explains so much
Trash d4 start making D5 and listen to your audience about what they want instead of your shareholders.
Diablo 2 onwards were not Diablo. Bliz is dead.
These streams are stupid, the game should speak for itself.
Sleepy Joeeee
Systems RPG is my trigger word
Lmao this vid is basically, “we took Last Epoch’s crating and exalted affix systems and equipment upgrade system from gachas like epic7/genshin/starrail because our team of thousands of people can’t come up with anything new”, I mean its something in terms of the game getting better, but I would think a billion dollar company with thousands of people working on a game could come up with something new and exciting, rather than taking the systems from other games. But it will make the game more replayable for sure.
Yeah this doesnt make me want diablo 4 more just going to get last epoch
Diablo 4 is Elden Wrong
Bruh is much balder an D4 hasnt been out a year….stress is a MF…being a dev 4 blizzard is no good
4:58 so is Hades. That is worrisome because although you level up in real time I wouldn’t primarily charactize the game as such. It’s closer to horde survival / rogue lite.
I don’t know why the hate train is still running hot. These changes are all great. D4 steal things of other ARPG‘s who cares?! If stuff is good do it! Why reinvent the wheel over and over? Every game steal things out of other games. I think season 4 will be great for a few days/weeks depending on how much you play. Endgame still lacks content but the journey into endgame will be great.
why does this game need some many directors and leads to achieve so little?
These changes are good. Even if it should have been on release this is good.
Some of you all just like to be the cool kid in class that makes fun of stuff that doesn’t need to be made fun of so you can get attention cause your family didn’t want you
Its our stashtabs!!! As much I liked Diablo 3ROS, cant see myself liking D4 in the near future…Hopefully season 10 and after will become somewhat playable.
I feel somewhat sorry for the three devs here.
Their facial expressions are like 3 victims in a kidnap video
I’m about halfway through the video and I feel like this campfire should’ve been happening after the first beta
i mean the changes are great and i’ll be playing season 4 for sure. but i dont see why other people shouldnt just play POE or Last Epoch they already have all these systems and more built in.
“It’s a system rpg” No, it’s a bad rpg.
They keep promising and not delivering. Like with OW2. Just stop paying attention to them. So many more better games.
lmao im 5 minutes in and they’re defining an ARPG, and its so obvious these dudes dont know wtf they’re talking abou
Was funny to watch asmongold from being in disbelief and jest to become more and more happier the more they explained.
Except for trading. Dafuq. That still needs some love going forward
13:29 YOU LEARNED THIS IN DIABLO THREEEEEE!!!!! LOOT 2.0 ?!?! HELLOOOO???!?!! WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS LIKE YOU JUST HAD SOME KIND OF GD EPIPHANY ?!?!?
The most Important system behind ALL of this is still, the capitalist system.
‘hello diablo community’…all 10 of them.
i just bought my 54th stash tab on LE
so they said : hey we listened to you and now do common sense stuff- praise us and give money. who knew
So can confirm I wasted my money back in June 2023. 100% my fault
LE/POE look better imo, they play better, and objectively are better. Why people keep supporting this garbage is beyond me.
Why would they not name their DIRECT competition…
Wait every video has talked about upgrading Harlequin Crest. It’s aspect is the ranks. Not the affix. I was excited too but that’s not how it works sorry fellas.
I can’t believe they don’t just have slides of last epoch’s crafying system in the background while they’re explaining the “new” crafting sytem…
this setting is so fuckin awkward why do they do it like this
S4 will be awesome
“everybody knows what an arpg is” except people who works for blizzard
I’m cautiously optimistic
A while lot of nothing being said
Clean your room bro.
People like these are the one’s who mess your order up at McDonald’s everytime.
But it’s months to late. It took way to long for these simple fixes….
2:38 hand shaking, Moms spagetti
Blizzard: So, copy this but don’t make it look like we copied this
They still have no idea what fun is
It’s so funny to watch blizzard embarrassing themselves over and over again. It’s just never getting boring 😂🤣
These people are delusional, elden ring and d4 should never be uttered in same sentence, regarding the systems, game is about as complicated as 2 sticks tied together with a shoe lace, fuck blizzard, peace
Call of duty so bad got me playing Diablo
These idiots STILL think restricting what players can trade is a good idea…
If you play PTR just report the bugs as Feels like Last Epoch , feels like POE 😂😂
Almost feels like a finished game. Maybe its time to give it a go
Whole Blizzard team playing LE atm just yoinking litterally everything, next d4 patch be timetraveling & monoliths
So pretty much
D4GOOD
The game it s just to dead to be revived.
For me it’s too little too late. While part of me is glad they’re trying to fix the game, these changes they talked about really should’ve already been there on launch. And even if itemization does get fixed, the boring skill trees and tedious endgame will remain. Why play this game when better, cheaper options are available?
L4ST DPOCH WIN
I feel like Last Epoch gave them the kick in the butt that they needed
Brutal
Ptr because they have no idea what the audience wants.
Season 4 looks great, excited for the PTR
The term RPG has been way overused for the last decade. Now essentially everything is called an RPG. Because you are playing a role of a character in each game but before RPG term was used for games like Morrowind, Fable, Baldurs Gate, etc. A game where you made the character and picked the role yourself.
No end game, a trash system that starts at level 100? Why play at level 100 lol. I hate this people
LOL still no end game only copy paste from d3
Guy on the left looks completely broken and mad at life
Game is ☠️ these people are not capable…
They fucked up and will never fix it.
Blizzard: How about start hiring experienced/vetran devs who can ectually make a game and stop hiring people who belong to representatives of certain minorities and political viewpoints, so that your employee position appears sufficiently diverse in PR terms.
so this is it d4 beta ends and season 1 begins in may 🙂
All I can hear when I hear these guys talk is “do you guys not have phones?” 😆
The numbers on items are still too dang high. If they divided all the numbers by 10, they would look much better, and bosses might not instantly die.
I think they should close the studio. Go home. So much ignorance. These guys are just sad. You can tell. They are trying to avoid looking at the camera. There’s no point giving them a chance. Do you really think they are going to flip the game. Surely, aha, tomorrow.
Seasons system needs to go – this restarting a new character BS is why I no longer play when I otherwise probably would. To me and many like me, we become invested in our characters and restarting breaks that immersion.
INB4 I don’t care if it’s always been that way.
SARPG ?
Scam Action RPG ?
🤣🤣🤣
Not a single ounce of testosterone
13:56 wise words. Asmon should be featured with these directors.
“Wow player are the smartest player” Bro say it without cringe gotta give him a raise lol
Damn. I thought ARPG was Above (view) Roll playing game.
Sometimes dead is better…
They have to thank last epoch for the ideas
Cool changes … still nothing to do lol
First: The changes are very good. I wish they had implemented that from the start. Would have saved me a lot of unpleasant grinding. 🤣 But thinking again: Would I then still play it? 🤔 Maybe casually. I don’t care for min-max, high-res graphics and ubbers. I care for content and build-variance with decent items. I love some nice drop, but I don’t want to depend on it. And now there are alternatives that still will do it better. In LE I play 4 totally different rogue builds in endgame. I still do not see, those will be possible in D4. Skills and paragon and contents are the issue for me. Launch hammers/lightningballs/skelletons/wolves, run in, cast a spell or skill, all dead … that are not different/interesting builds for me, and I see no real change there. For me, it still is all the same. Colors and graphics are secondary. Sure, I will get back and test it for some days and look for some funny loot. I bought the game, so why not. But will it be a reason to buy extension? I doubt it, with no more thrilling changes. More interesting games are in sight for same money. And yesterday, Chrono Odyssey launched a new trailer 🤣. Is that a good, or bad, sign? Well … I wait for campfire 2 😅 This all will improve D4 a lot and make it a 7/10 for me for a new player. But that will not make it number 1 for me.
so what’s the conclusion in this talk?
I feel like he is trying to convince himself more than us.
Should I pick up the game now?
Every single time with these campfire vids, Bliz is like Lucy holding the Football and Asmon is a hyped Charlie Brown ready to kick it. Yet when the ball is inevitably yanked away… “WHY DO THEY NEVER LEARN?!” xD
I might try a new class, I’ve only level 100 a Bard and Sorc so far.
Why is it every time I hear these people talk, I seem to mostly hear excuses coming out from their mouths? And boy do they look and sound awkward and uncertain in this. I almost pity them, almost. And why is it so hard for them to get to the point? Also, is it just me or they are trying to really, really hard not say something they know the players will hate, but know is going to be implemented into the game regardless? It’s like they’re consciously trying to omit something. Or were they just nervous about the uncertain future of their game?
Here is the thing blizzard you are making a game about great heroes tearing through hordes of demons you are tying to hard to add systems and math to making us get more powerful, when all we want is to look badass and kill lots of demons. So what you need to do is stop making the game feel like homework or a job you make the game play more like Doom. Give us choice but do not make us work to have fun we as adults do that enough.
People are going to understandably meme on this video without watching it, I understand, because I also gave up on the game. But I have to admit, just like Asmon thinks, the changes look pretty great. I’ll come back to see if it actually pans out.
They are known for basically never listening. No set items, no runes, no charms. How can you just make a franchise progressively worse? Because America is slipping. It’s so obvious.
Yeah I know that black t-shirts are, well… diablo aesthetics, but it really looks like funeral 😂
born to raise hell 😉
Single biggest take away from this, they are nerfing barb again.
And why the fck i cant zoom out camera ffs?
D4 stays bad, but you’re still out 70+$. Who really won! 😂😂 Blizzard just continues to screw yall! Well deserved for being so stooped! 😊
They have ideal itemization and other things already in diablo 2, and they still doing a shit job.
poe devs: 😀
diablo devs: :<
The only question is how many times they will delay s4
My advice to EVERYONE(unless you enjoy it, but I highly doubt many do), let this game go…just let..it..gooo..your soul will finally be free, it feels so much better to not give a crap about it
Fuuuuck!!! How we gonna shit on the game now😂😂😂❤ I’ll play season 4 again it sounds like they fucked up and EVENTUALLY started owning it and fixing it. I’m not mad at it guys, I wanted to enjoy it and maybe now I will. I wish them luck in revamping my $70 experience.
d1 d2 = diablo-like arpg
d3 d4 = trash-like arpg
At least these campfire chats make for some good memes.
D5 will fix all this
Holy crap did the first guy basically Mansplain what an ARPG is to everyone?
Anyone else think Adam Fletcher rambles on like a babbling brooke? Like, get to the point bud!
So they took the Mobil game and made the rifts the same things as the dens or whatever they call it so there taking mobil Diablo and implementing it into Diablo 4 wow what a joke of a franchise
They had the instructions how to make a good diablo game, that was written in Diablo 1,2, and 3. And somehow they manged to fk it all up. At this point its all just excuses.
its always a bad sign when they deactivate comments…
The problem with most devs…they do what’s best and easiest for them, the players are a afterthought…a lot of devs also don’t really seem to understand what’s actually “fun” or “entertaining” about their game or games in general…and lastly many devs just don’t have the collective talent and competence to make a great game.
Idk how you can have a PTR for limited time content, it makes even less sense
Save everyone the time: “Short Answer is NO!”
What happen to the diverse alternate woman developers who were so focused on the level artwork?
You know, the ones who played Diablo 4 for the first time on stream.
This update literally makes the game way better and way funner and people are still complaining 😂 this update is AMAZING and they are listening how people don’t see this idek your just hating at this point
Can I have Joe Shely casually not understanding video game genres for 100 Alex! It is your job to know the genre of the video game in which you’re lead designer of the entire fucking game.
Hollow Knight is now an ARPG. Good to know. Is Gone Home a narrative focused FPS now too?
Can’t wait to play the new survival game Depression Quest haha.
Edit: I did not survive playing Depression Quest. /wrist
Will 5.0 save WoW?
Will 6.0 save WoW?
Will 7.0 save WoW?
Will 8.0 save WoW?
Will 9.0 save WoW?
Will 10.0 save WoW?
Will season 1 save Diablo?
Will season 2 save Diablo?
Will season 3 save Diablo?
Will Overwatch 2 save Blizzard?
Will Activision save Blizzard?
Will Microsoft save Blizzard?
…
I’m sensing a pattern here.
D4 – the meta systems app with bonus so-so mingame of killing demons for when the menus and stats and stuff gets too boring.
Not even 4 minutes in and the Diablo 4 team describes D4 as an ARPG diablo like game. Well if D4 is only diablo like then who the hell makes Diablo games. Great circus some cute monkeys on a couch
The irony of playing Last Epoch while watching this 😆
No one normal plays this game anymore, so they get feedback from who? There is no hope for this game. Hope that they will not touch D2R to make some “improvements”. Cheers!
monster hunter menus are great…
They all look like they hate video games but love money lol. Especially my man on the far left.
I wonder what these guys were thinking would happen after Diablo 4 releases? Like, they have had to have know, that their “live service” game has no content prepared for like the next year, and that’s really one of the main issues with Diablo 4. Barebone content that is designed to milk your time and make you spend money on the battle pass and store. Exact same formula like CoD/WZ has for each year
This is like watching a band interview, when the members of the band all hate the new album, and eachother.
you know its th 5th last chance when they put the devs in front of the camera instead of the suits or blue haired people.
The systems are the worst part.
These people are work mates, not friends.
The old stereotypical “Thanks Tom” when they get passed the mic just screams these guys don’t care.
These guys putting more work into pants than the game
Charles Dunn does not want to be there.
Has anyone tried to tell them yet that their game sucks? Might want to start with that.
THE BIG FAN AND THE ACTUAL TOP TIER PLAYER OF DIABLO 2. ITS FUCKIN SAD THAT DIABLO 2 STILL BEST DIABLO IN HISTORY AND THEY COULD MADE A GOOOD D4 = ( LAME AZZEZ
SEASONS SUCK!!!! Just have the base game & PvP. End of story.
I’m happy that Blizzard is doing progress, I just don’t understand how the biggest company with the most money and developers is the company that does NO innovation.
But I guess if the game just becomes playable, I might return one day.
Big wins, they’re almost at a release worth state. Now they still need to revamp paragon and skill trees but its getting there
I feel sorry for Joe Shely, again. Seems he is under an enormous stress and looks more and more miserable in every stream.
Can someone please explain to me what the actual heck POE is?
The only POE I know is the Prison Of Elders from Destiny 1; ill often switch between using acronyms and full titles, but literally EVERY time I’ve heard someone talk about this other POE they only use the acronym.
Also what’s PTR?
To be fair, PoE’s PTR is the first 2 week of league launch.
seeing the gameplay even with the new stuff reminded me of another reason I hate D4 its so visually unappealing… Last Epoch just looks so much better
Dead to me 😢
gassing to save a shite game. MGGA
Looks Good!
I also like that you get less and more relevant loot, instead of adding a lootfilter. For me, a lootfilter is just a fix for bad lootsystems, the itemization overall looks promising,
What is Diablo? What is ARPG? What is gaming? What is fun? Why am I here? Who am I? Is this a real life or just a dream? Hello? I guess I will go for now. Bring other dude. – Blizzard Dev.
Glad you realized masterwork is a gacha mechanic. Was waiting for that lol
This is great advertising for Project Diablo 2
It is might just be warframe and helldivers left at the end.
Asmogold, read the homepage for the upcoming GDC, presenting what speakers will talk about what topics.
It is a shit-show of a lot of topiccs you love to expose.
That last firing finally cleared out at least some of the stupid brain drain in blizzard – Seeya wokies – don’t let the door hit you on the way out!…..
I want my freaking 70 euros back. Well at least you won’t see more from me in the future
We used to call Diablo a hack and slash game back in the day but I guess it went out of fashion.
Having to go to the blacksmith then the fortune lady was one of the things I hated most about d4. Like why do I have to go to so many places in town to do the same thing… plus u couuldn’t ride horse in town which was annoying af. Even of they let u ride horses in town still annoying made me hate going to certain towns and only traveled to the towns where all the vendors were so close.
Systems rpg???
There is a reason people call this “all talk”.
Blizzard is dead
Blizzard screws up. Blizzard promises to listen. What does this mean? It means it’s Tuesday.
So D4 is ok every other season or twice a year and the other time is bad 😂😂
Watching this it is obvious to me that noone on the team have the capability of bringing original ideas to the table. Big or small.
D4 is lacking at the core. Theyre not going to remake the game. Adding fluffy changes on the surface wont change it. Its a pipedream. Just stop it.
How do these guys still have jobs, I am baffled
We know. The S part is $.
welp, skipped 2 seasons. we coming back boys.
Good stuffs. We get more time to play Last Epoch then. Since S4 will not come before May.
i made it to 2:37 those people cant give a presentation
So the new items journey includes, picking up an item with 2 less stats then taking to an NPC to add to 2 stats?? Wow absolutely revolutionary.
Good games don’t depend on community feedback. This eagerness to receive feedback to correct the game is the result of a team of bad devs who cannot create something original and exciting, and so they need to push the responsibility onto the community, who just want to receive a good game ready and have fun. We don’t want to do your work for you, devs.
Diablo 4 having a PTR and it comming out April 2nd truly is the definition of “Out of Season April Fools Joke”
For me the Zoom Out is the biggest thing
It doesn’t even matter anymore. If I spend up to $100 on a game, I expect that shit to be awesome. This game was so underwhelming from the get go, Obvious QoL deficiencies that made the game annoying to play. They can fix whatever they want now but that game is uninstalled and isn’t coming back.
Yes, it makes sense that Blizzard would make a SA RPG….
The game sucks, diablo is dead. Mobile game followed by 4. A decade of crap.
I love the plans. ❤
Diablo4 was a giant turd.
The entire part around the 2 minute to 3 minutes mark kind of blew my mind, and not in a good way. Is he intentionally conflating the Action RPG and the ARPG genres? Yeah, they’re both technically the abbreviation for the same thing (ARPG = Action RPG), but the genres are VASTLY different. ARPGs are by definition games like Diablo, Path of Exile, Last Epoch, Grim Dawn etc. Action RPGs are completely unrelated; games like Skyrim, Elden Ring, sure, even Hollow Knight. These are RPGs with action elements. Action RPGs. They are NOT ARPGs.
As always, I will wait for Asmingold to waste his time and play the game, if by a miracle the game is actually awesome (not good, that’s not cutting anymore) than I will waste my time trying it
Respect your time hommies
This is their last chance. But is it their last last chance?
Don’t we all have phones?
I like when the game crashed, he went and said “What would have happened”, bro if your game is in this state in a LIVE BUILD, are you expecting it to work for other people when it didn’t work for you? What is stopping it from crashing on my system if I do the same thing as you did? How can we trust you to build a game if you can’t even present it due to crashes…………
I don’t play the game but love watching blizzards mess, I have learnt my lesson
my guess iss meta item crafting evolves around keeping 1 affix open mastercraft till you hit what you want and then add the last affix ( better chance to hit what you want)
“Hey guys, let’s talk about season 16. We hear you, the game is NOT at a good spot….. one EXTRA stash tab…… we are excited to see you try it out hahaha….
QA: why does Joe look 120 years old?
SRPG? Blud thinks he’s Kojima and can just make up genres on the fly and get away with it. 😆
Need cool earn able mounts that isn’t just a horse and get rid of the shitty cosmetic store but that’ll never happen even though this game is 70 fucking dollars and shouldn’t have store shit in it
I’ve never seen so many boring meetings, for a boring game no one is playing. Blizz has a sunk cost fallacy problem.
Just leave Blizzard alone! It is just a small Indie Studio and they have much to learn! They only just begun!
I pray every day the add something new to D2r. Imagine an act 6 how much would sell if done well.
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you would think the team would wear more Rolexes n shit
Literally couldn’t care less what they say, it’s what they do that I have concerns with and I seldom care about that at this point.
JUST MAKE DIABLO 2 GAMES STOP WITH THIS BULLSH^T D3 SPIN OFFS, D3 SUCKS. GUESS WHAT?? NOW D4 SUCKS BECAUSE ITS JUST LIKE D3 STOP BEING DUMB
This just shows how messedup bliizard is, they make a game with milion problems and then overwork them selfs for years to fix those problems, but they cant fix everything cuz they haw core problems in theyr engine. In all these years they still dont know how to make a game where you wont need to change 80% of it latter, like WTF? That talk about what kind of game D4 is, was just like “Dont you haw phones” thing, just longer 😀
Man Joe Shelly is stressed af. lmaooo
They failed. It’s time for them to try something else
I like that they’re now properly refering to Diablo and it’s ilk as an “SARPG”. ARPG now belongs to the genre that Demon’s Souls spearheaded. Those are true action role playing games. Diablo isn’t really ever going to have the same level of action, or role playing (you can literally character create in the Souls games as any character/role you want). The focus in SARPG like Diablo series is more on all the systems and stats and resistances and all that stuff and making like an autoplaying game essentially.
More like a slot machine with some basic casual 3 finger combat, which is great and true to diablo’s roots. Us people who play Diablo 2 etc want to play with one hand on the mouse just mashing through the content picking up the shinies and the other hand on our dick/in a bowl of cheetos.
Thanks to diablo 4, I now have 400 hours in PoE 🙂
I don’t game anymore but I have fond memories of Diablo 2. I’m sad to hear this title struggles to this point. Time for blizzard to put their money where their mouth is…… or never get money again. Pretty simple right.
By the way. Love the channel
Bro no one cares lol about Diablo….
I guess they played Last Epoch last month.
First thing Joe said is “hey, we heard you like arpg’s, did you know about all these other arpg’s you could go play that are better than our game”. Thank you Joe.
Every single one of you complaining in these comments will continue giving them money to ruin the game more. You are all the problem. Not blizzard.
yay a new cycle in the spiral downwards
Well he did good by giving definition of what’s an ARPG, because in this era, people seems to struggle to even distinguish between what is a man and what is a women
large ones
D4 bad
Guys, we promise we know what ARPG’s are..
We googled it.
Dead reckoning: unemployment line blizzard Edition.
Blah blah blah blah were gonna rely on PTR to do our work for us.
Holy crap. the most boring video on youtube
stop looking at me Jooeee. stop staring at ma soul
they are stealing it from last epoch.. loool. blizzard are so dead omg.
They need a PTR because they just fired their whole QA team and players do it for free duh😅😂
The best news was that the season 3 is ending….no matter when, no matter how, but it’s ending…one day…. somewhere in the future.
I’ll sum up the whole video “we won’t be listening to the community and improving the game”
Imagine if blizzard admits they are behind and start taking inspiration from other games much more.
If a game is an RPG and it has Action, technically it’s an ARPG – Great job Joe Shely, the smartest developer Blizzard will ever have
It’s like they are designing their game after it’s launched. It just beggars belief how things are these days. What happened to getting things right on Day 1.
its not changing yall, saved ya 2hours of your life. MOVE ON FROM BLIZZARD GAMES!
Their biggest mistake they made after 3 seasons is to let us try last epoch, nothing can bring me back to D4 after that
Didn’t watch the whole thing, but did they talk about why they are selling portal colors for 40 euro in the store? When the game itself is 70 dollar?
It’s funny how they say stuff like they knew it the whole time, we’re basically still moving towards bare minimum here
Close the cash shop. Add all the stuff from the cash shop as rare drops in the game. Go play DIablo 2, take some notes and fix your bull shit cash grab game.
the journey for items = open up your wallet.
Okay, now lets look how are actual passionate devs talk about their game today (POE) in a few hours.
Why does Asmongold like to talk about games more than play them? He played what, 10 hours of D4, but happily gossip about the development of the game for 8000 hours of content/stream.
Joe as lost it and its time he jumps the boat, the dude is so disconnected its getting hilarious.
D4, Now with a Gold Border! FCKIN NAILED IT!@ -first try- “We saw you liked PoE, so we made ours look like that.”
Next Year: Bliz buys GGG. Coming soon – Path to Diablo – GOTY 2027
nobody wants a PTR, they want a GOOD GAME. Its season 4 dudes, you should know what we want by now lmao
glad indies are taking over, last epoch, grim dawn, and titan quest, grim dawn is getting a new dlc, titan quest is getting the 2nd game. All of those will be better then d4 if they keep botching it.
actually joe invented a new genre…trpg
It was painfully obvious they stole ideas from LE….
I’ve watched men go through divorce proceedings, that looked like they were having more fun than this. What even is this?
SO after making D4 and “improving the game” they somehow went back to the shitty D3? grinding stupid gems to the death, rifts, power level items which is such a stupid system that shouldn’t exist and is simplified to “just get to lvl 95”, Sacred and Ancestral just remove it what is the point of this feature? so meaningless… Rerolling without actual any restriction and no money restriction is not a good restriction for example Last epoch forging potentional is an amazing way to limit it and play around it, Codex of power LITERAL D3 and obvious fix should of been implemented since day ONE. I’m sorry if people have any sort of hope this game is going to be good I’m sorry to tell you the creators of this damn game have 0 creative thinking, 0 balls to take risk and even throughout the video they don’t even seem excited to provide you the information they are presenting! they seem tired of this shit.
Diablo 4 the first Action System Soul RPG or ASSRPG for short.
They finally picked the bar up off the floor and put it back on the rack. Now it’s up to them to continue to raising it.
it does not matter what they change.. the core is the same – no content. POE 2 will be the next arpg to play
Devs looking like there loosing there jobs 🙂
I hope they’re successful. Make good games and they will come with zero promotion.
such a smart move from GGG to have a big announcement 1 day after this shitty campfire.
Bought Last Epoch yesterday (and its great so far ~8hours), was waiting for D4 to be fixed but ive been waiting too long, they’ve lost my future custom and its actually dissapointing to see one of my favorite games sink like this.
2 hours video are u crazy in ur mind ?
L4ST DPOCH
Soon they start to cry…
I have one question – will we get more horses? Thats important for my gameplay
Never played Diablo, but 51:48 😂
The saga continues..
shit game give me my money back
Devs don’t even know what an ARPG is, it all makes sense now.
there is no fixing it. its rooten to the core. the only way to save diablo is scorched earth.
Correction; an “action rpg” is an rpg with a focus on action or an action game with rpg elements. An “aRPG” is a Diablo-like. Genre terminology is a mess but using definitions interchangeably makes it worse, like for Immersive Sims.
Too late, it’s more dead than sun-exposed copper.
Listening? And you are happy with that? that they cant create a fun game and need the community’s handholding on what the f they should do in every single turn of their games? I hope ppl that speak in order for blizzard to listen, to get their games for free at least, if not directly on the payroll. Oh and free beta Q&A testing realm is open. Gooo and provide your services to the billion dollar company for free.
omy GOD Creepy Thin Man!!! watch D4 Streammm Dangerous guyss😂😂😂😂😂
why is this even worthy to mention. Diablo 4 is dead and there is nothing they can do to get me playing again.
blizzard/activision been screwing us players around for decades. – but hey maybe NOW they are listening-.
screw that. diablo 4 is done
Those guys look hella tired, I feel for them, they look like they need a break man.
You know they are worried when it’s all the actual nerds, developers who actually do stuff that they pull out and not some girl with pink hair.
After playing Diablo 4 for a couple hours it was obvious that most of these changes were needed. It should not have taken almost a year for this.
This time for real the game we ruined will be fixed 😮 5 seconds later “we dont know what an ARPG is”
Local co-op having attacks studder its unplayable
This feels similar to the Apology video for cyberpunk 2077
Blizzard hears everyone’s feedback. But they aren’t listening to everyone’s feedback
campfire without campfire but oh boy raytracing
The foundation of character building in these Arpg games is the character skill tree. If that is screwed up then it doesn’t matter what you do with end game or items. The D4 skill tree is way too shallow of a foundation to build upon. They are going to have to rebuild it at some point.
51:30 …
They should do what helldivers is doing. If shits not working, ask the community for ideas
Honestly there is little to no way for this game to flip up to acceptable standards fairly quickly, maybe in a year or two it might get refined and the edges formed into a decent game. But as of now its just in a bad state.
Season4: Last Epoch
This is entertaining – and I dont even play Diablo.
3 important questions I would ask:
Is the character limit still 10? With the early and mid game XP acceleration, it’s going to be pretty tempting to make a lot of alts.
I still think a loot filter is a good idea. I don’t think it should be that difficult to create a masking layer that filters items that are specified by the tool or vice versa.
Stash tabs. It’s been a year. Constantly running out of space is the second largest reason that I don’t play anymore. Behind having to regrind Lilith statues and fog of war for my non hardcore toons.
I made the mistake of playing my first playthrough on HC. So, I’ve had to do the exploration buff grind 3 times already. Can we just make the partition between HC and SC a one way mirror? Let HC achievements apply to SC? I wouldn’t even bitch about letting SC buffs go to HC. I play HC for my own enjoyment. If someone else wants to use that system as an exploit… I don’t really care. I just want to play HC until I’m tired of it, but have the option to pick up SC without the re grind.
I feel like they’re either scared of upsetting players again and making panicked changes that aren’t thought throughout OR they really don’t know what to do with the game.
The thing I hate most about Geshin is the RNG artifact upgrading and they’ve added this trash into D4 now… -_____-
41:30 finally they learned something form Last Epoch lol
Blizzie bad
My oh my how people are so quick throw out “W’s” smh Its more nuanced than either being just a W or an L, all of these changes to me are just neutral, not bad but not good, just what should have already in the game months ago. Like ehh ok.
Still not interested in buying the game.
They can “improve” all they want, I won’t be coming back. Ever.
Don’t be shy about it. Just fucking copy and paste that shit to D4.
We all know you guys are creatively bankrupt so just copy the good systems in LE/PoE to D4 and everyone will be happy.
We can only hope cause I bought the £90 version but it’s probably too late considering how the base code is built and the staff lay offs.
Too bad I traded the game in ages ago lol
Where greed meets incompetence
have not played since season 1 unless they changed the activities you can do at endgame im not eager to come back to run dungeons over and over again
IF the continue like this..after expansion..D4 will challeng poe2
The twitch numbers on d4 are brutal. Last I checked D2 had more viewers
You cant save broken game !!!!
They want a PTR because they have probably sacked the paid testers lol
This is the last one guys, this is it ! lmfao
They created an entire fantasy world of game classifications just for this video. Wish they spent that creativity on the diablo world instead.
All of this looks great, tbh.
Remember when videogames didn’t need regular press-conferences? 🤷♂️
3:44 I thought this game was about selling $50 horse skins lol
Lol the guy on the left acts as the big boss. I bet he is fricking annoying to work with lmao
they had me at “increase the size of your bone spear…explosion”.
take my $
Just a few more patches , give them time . Till first , max second expansion all will be fixed by adding a paladin.
It’s dead jim.
“Insanity is doing the exact… same fucking thing… over and over again expecting… shit to change…”
– Vaas
I’ve never played Diablo once but love this drama. It’s sad that it’s so satisfying watching this company flounder.
They will not make any changes, they are just doing this so they can say they are listening. Blizzard is trash!
If season 4 theme will be time traveling I will pee myself 😂
They need to completely change uber unique farm cuz with everx single one they add the grind for them gets worse cuz duriel gets more items it could drop so the percentage to get your item gets lower and lower
Just play Last Epoch people. Its in a better state after 1 month from realise then D4 after 2 years. Simple to get into the game but later gets complicated enough to scratch that itch that people have for making a good build.
They should stop worshipping Baal and revert to Jesus Christ, maybe the game becomes better.
This starting to give me real A Realm Reborn vibes
Let us keep the same character throughout Seasons and instantly get 4 customers back. ‘But that’s not how ARPG’s work’, okay then how’s that working out for ya 😂
they couldn’t possibly tempt me back with anything at this point. its still blizzard, they will still find a way to fuck it up.
Seriously, who thought “SA-RPG” should be the name?
D4 BAD, PoE GOOD, LE GOOD
24:20 The reason why they don’t want the best items to be tradeable is inherently tied to Actiblizzard’s basest desires: more money for less everything.
I know this way of head honchos’ thinking from the inside. In Actiblizzard’s case it is exactly that simple: they don’t want to allow any trading for actually valuable stuff to exist because said trading will automatically encourage some degree of RMT. And its not that Actiblizzard doesn’t want any RMT in D4. Its that they only want THEIR OWN RMT to exist. And whenever a player has to decide whether he’d like to spend 70% on a ridiculous horse or on a top-tier staff weapon, the choice is quite obvious in 99.6% situations.
THIS is what they’re so afraid of, and this is why they refuse to implement top-tier trading. It’s not because they “can’t ban RMTers”. They can. But that will still lead them to the case where players are much more willing to spend their extra bits of money on the equipment instead of preposterously garbage ‘flair’ stuff.
Any 30$ that could possibly be spent by any random player on a crossbow or an armor or a pair of nice boots is 30$ that wasn’t spent on a portal recolor. And that would mean a “pure loss” for Actiblizzard. Yes, this is how they see this topic in its entirety. I kid you not.
Now they just need to completely overhaul the skill system and make it thrice as complicated, and please give me the option to remove the fog that blocks the entire visibility of the game.
Edit: and 10 new classes.
These are great changes but at a fundamental level D4s skill trees are way too simple which is one reason why there is no build diversity and replayability.
It’s nice that they’re attempting to fix it but ultimately it will always be a kind of mediocre game imo.
D3 is better then d4 that’s how boring this game is to play
I’m broke but this is really getting me exited to buy it on steam today (on sale) after I get payed, even if it means I starve for the the next week, lets keep a watching see if they close the sale for me haha.
EDIT: sale in my country ends in 8 hours.. about 3 hours before the bosses pay us 😅
Lol….Diablo stealing ideas. 1) yeah its smart to leverage good ideas. 2) Every ARPG has stolen from Diablo who created the fucking genre. LE literally has a Hammerdin that looks identical to D2R lol. Shall we make a list of all the ideas taken from D1,2,3,4?
51:30 for when the game crashes during the stream
Listening from the start, i have ZERO confidence in this director lol
Diablo 4 is now just a meme
This the Human centipede? Oh, wait it’s the Diablo VI cast, sorry they got their head so far up their arse I couldn’t tell the difference O.o
My main problem with Blizzard is that they never listen to players until after most leave. Then if enough come back they stop listening again
There is solace in knowing it’s well and truly over.
SA’d ARPG!!!!!!
Very negative audience.. kinda sucks people are so damn negative about a video game. Entitled as hell lol
Now we all know what an RPG is! Now let’s all go back to Last Epoch.
Okay so the blizzard D4 devs know what game genres are…..but do they know what gender everyone is at the work place – that is the REAL question????….
Love how they didnt mention their direct comptetitors when they were reeling off “ARPGs” – They have been schooled by competitor ARPGs for the past 10 years.
how hard is it for the developers to fix their game?
the fastest and the most efficient ways to improve diablo 4 is this, bring all the top tier content creators for the ARPG genre, raxx and that blond dude that kind of looks like asmongold and at the same time escaped stranger things TV show and others. fly them all in all expenses paid (you can afford this blizzard lmfao) to the HQ sit down with them and work on the next season with them and then work on future proofing later seasons with them, if this doesn’t work out then you might as well close down the game for good or let it bleed.
Looks good..tempting
Games should be made by gamers…
Why can’t the host speak like a normal man…
Changes look good. Can’t wait to try it out in S4!
I feel like I’m being talked into play it….
Same loot table is a big F ! That means the easier of the two bosses is the one being farmed and the other forgotten.
Yoshida: Makes his staff play WoW to fix FFXIV
Blizzard: “ARPGs like Hades and Elden Ring…”
A buffer for more time to fix their shit disguised as a PTR? Got it!
d4 gud
The underlying problem with D4 is it being D3 with grim-dark-spoopy skin on top, thus it is shallow by design.
These guys are like Wendy’s/McDonald’s employees explaining why the frosty/mcflurry machine is broken and it will work tomorrow cause we need someone else to fix it
SA-RPG? WTF Blizzard? You hadn’t had enough of the SA the first time, you had to make an RPG for it? 🤣🤣🤣
PoE NEEDS a PTR. Every single league is fucked for several weeks at the beginning.
They should rename it from “Diablo 4 Camp Fire” to “Diablo 4 Dumpster Fire”.
The pit opens a rift but it’s called a pit … just make the entrance look more like a pit then?
I’ve never seen a “Game Director” who seems to dislike and seems so disinterested in “their” game. They are so far disconnected from any sort of reality. SARPG 😂
PoE doesn’t have PTR because its a free to play game, and the league system. If it wasn’t, oh boy, the outrage will be HUGE. The amount of shits went untested in each league is absurd.
What even is an ARPG? Some might say it’s a game… where you play… a role……. with action. But really it’s more than that. An ARPG can be anything you want it to be. You want to be a 20 foot tall unicorn impaling foes on your gleaming horn of justice? You fucking got it. But here at Blizzard we had to decide what kind of game would really suit us and what we’re all about, and what better concept for a company named Blizzard… than fire? It’s what all the hip kids are saying nowadays when something’s good, it’s what my dick feels like when I take a piss, it’s what we love to do to our employees, it really is the perfect fit. So you might be thinking, a fiery ARPG? That sounds downright hellish. Demonic, even. And you would be right, but this time around we wanted to take a different approach. Have you ever opened your door to find a burning bag on your doorstep, only to wind up with a giant wad of steaming dog shit plastered to your bare foot when you attempt to stomp it out? Happens all the time, am I right? Now say you take that to the next level, where does that pile of shit go after you scrape it off your foot? Now me I just throw it in the sink but my “wife” said that was “gross” and that it should go in the “trash.” So you throw it in the trash and then where does it go? A dumpster or a truck and then a landfill. Now imagine that landfill, full of the waste of various animals and god knows what else, all on fire. This epic scale is really what we were aiming for with Diablo 4, and I think we’ve done a bang up job. You might even say we did a “fire” job, eh kids? So what does all this have to do with what we’re talking about today? Well I hope these other guys can answer that because I haven’t the slightest clue.
A corpo in a dirty tshirt is still just a corpo
Be ready to be an unpaid QA team for a few weeks. 👌 It would really help them out ignore more suggestions.
Kidding aside – as per Jonathan Rogers from GGG, not in his exact words but it goes, if you have a good idea and already exist in other games, then do it still. Don’t let other games affect how to improve your game, or something like that. Although we don’t know if the new systems are exactly inspired by LE, Honkai, etc, it’s still an improvement.
they keep beating this dead horse.
take a shot every time you hear PTR
try not to die
Biggest grind in D4 is the grind some are doing in the hope it gets better!
It is not Diablo as they are not in it just minor mentions as you search for it.
Cutting the junk items is good but how are they going to provide the materials if there are less items dropping.
Cosmetics, why? On a character that the only time you see any detail of the item is when you are in your menu. On screen at what, 3% of your screen size brings out all that detail you wasted your money on.
Did they intentionally line them up in order of enthusiasm
they literally make fools of themselves every single time they make one of these campfire chats. i only watch them to make fun of them and read the comments. oh and last chance that happened before season 1
Is this fckn topic necessary, really? Kingcashcow(D4) aint going nowhere! Math and numbers doesnt lie, even on D4 lowest peak.
God bless this tiny indie company. They’re trying so hard.
i only think of how i wasted 80 plus dollars on crap when i think of diablo 4
They really need to stop trying to artificially increase game longevity, it’s been nothing but a disaster. Make the game FUN and people WILL play.
Big W for diablo IV
this game should of been an expansion , pretty much same game
All that mattered was itemization. Amazing itemization and easier to read stats on items from launch. I’ve said it for nearly 3 years.
Quick question. Do you always wear the same shirt, or do you have multiple of the same white shirt?
99% of the comments never even watched the video or the dev stream. Got to love it.
How can they even say there is directors or designers? No the directors and designers are marketing analysts, investors and cooperate big shots. Those are the developers lets be honest.
the single player parts of wow should be more like diablo.
Poor Joe on the far left, I really do feel sorry for him. He looks completely demoralized by the whole thing, knowing PoE2 is coming. I thought D4 in beta was quite enjoyable. Post-release I don’t care if I never play it again. I’m having more fun in Deep Rock Galactic Survivor than D4.
Cant wait for this! Changes look great and i loved D3 rifts so glad to see them return. Really really happy, gd job blizzard , though it should have launched like this 😅
They all look totally thrilled to be there.. 😂
The utter defeat in these dev’s faces. Not the mark that a game is moving in the right direction…just sad. Corporate greed destroys again.
Why do they look like they are attending a funeral
Diablo IV get 50% disc before 6 months.. damn
I’ll play it if people say its good after the season starts, but i quit within an hour for season 3 as soon as i saw traps
SO PAINFUL
Lol they put genshin atrifacts in diablo. Sure why not
Never bought the game and I still felt bored from D4
D4 is a RPG? Not a shitting slot machine??
search bar nice
It’s nice to finally be able to put a face to my clown emojis
The sheep will love it..
These guys are dull.
“we Know what an ARPG is, blabla, Hades is an ARPG…”
Yeah, I think I start to see why D4 is bad.
This was 2 minutes in
diablo died with diablo 3.. they should have turned it into a challenging horror arpg where it starts slow and enemies are hard to fight but turns into something like endgame diablo 2 as a barb. not flashing and flying all around and 1 shotting every enemy like its an arcade game. the arpg genre really went down the shitter.. its non-gameplay imo. diablo 2 got it right and theres a reason why its the best arpg ever made. if only these idiots realized that b4 they fked up and made d4.. its unfixable for many many many players. its not good. scrap it plz its over
Honestly, they screwed up this game in the most base ways. You can’t unbake that cake. Anyone that actually plays ARPGs on their team should have been screaming their heads off that this game was garbage. No trading, terrible itemization (the main reason people play ARPGs is fun loot), boring spells, the terrible overworld that all feels the same, the boring dungeons, the lack of storage space, the lack of interesting crafting….Just go back and watch that video of the diversity hire blizz employees playing D4 and having no idea what they are doing. Oh wait, they removed that because it showed that the emperor was wearing no clothes.
Video game fans have turned mob mentality. Where it’s “cool” to rip on AAA developers, and it’s “hip” to support indie developers.
It’s becoming much like the music industry… Blizzard is the new Nickelback, and Larian Studios is Sonic Youth.
51:32 the game crashes
Time stamp for when asmond is done eating please.
2:28
The fact the these devs think hollow knight is an ARPG………… it just shows how disconnected they are.
BlowJob 4
Try is the right word.
The word they were looking for is TINKERING
“This is the Last Chance. The Fifth Last Chance.”
“This is it: THE REAL DEAL.”
The term SRPG exists but it stands for Strategy RPG.
love how the 1st 5 mins we get to see why game is in the shitter. self pitching BS that means nothing… trying to make “diablo like” a meaningful statement but litearly means a hole lot of over paid desk jockies talking them selfs up… sit down joe cant push your BS on us…
its on steam right now for 35$ theyre desperate before it goes on Game Pass
If I had to say something at Blizzard I would fire the chinese guy. He does not come to the point and stays vague.
He fell for it again. LOL
These leechers will soon be replaced by AI, the games will still be shit but it won`t crash live
The amount of vocal fry on this panel is just so painful to listen to. My god. Why do they nearly all sound like the same man at different pitches. Yeuch.
Just another word salad from a shit game development company that fell from grace many years ago.
Asmond’s idea that an auction house is not what ruined D3 but made it great and how D4 needs one is just mind boggling. You know what you did for upgrades in D3 with the AH? You went to the AH, you only played the game to really farm cash to turn around and buy items. It was lame as fuck especially when some dumb ass could just drop a couple dollars and outbid your entire mountain of gold. But supposedly asmond sold an item once for enough money to take his friends to taco bell so it was the greatest shit ever… ya know unlike the standerd opinion that reaper of souls massively increasing the drop the rate and killing the AH made the game more fun.
You can tell they’re actually excited. I wonder who fought for more creative freedom. Kudos
Now they can just focus on making FUN and ENGAGING content instead of working on systems. This seems to be mostly fixed now. Now don’t touch the shit.
😂
The first 2 min with joey p just barely moving and staring into the camera was hilarious for no reason
Blizzard continues with a mindset that everything is fixable with a patch. It started with Diablo 3 and it continues with that pattern in Diablo 4. The skill system and itemization are the primary reasons why this game is bad.
Next time we see Shely, he will be a ghoul from Fallout 3.
It’s really easy to say “D4 bad” and shit on the devs but…Honestly, these changes will bring me back. A lot of things that put me off are being fixed. Point blank D4 is the best looking/feeling ARPG in the space and if they can get the systems right, and make the game rewarding to play I’m in. I’m very happy to see they are going in this direction, if the game is fun people will come back. It’s easy to be negative, but I am cautiously optimistic
It really does feel like they just copied last epoch’s homework 😂
Why is the dude on the left sitting like this all the time: 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 ???? 🤣
They think he is somekind of character from diablo 4 or what?
Stop making games as a dopamine-casino zone to zone mindless grind like Lost Ark.
Bring back horadric cube, runes, cool companions (who can also carry items and level)
So basically they started to copy LE. We’ll its not a bad thing.
barely the start of the video and you can hear the blatantly obvious despair in their tone of voice
so 2 hour for a dead game niice
so, they are too lazy to playtest their own shit or pay people to do so: LETS MAKE A PTR!!11
so much nodding
“I can explain and define my boring ass bad game” is all i heard.
Finally diablo 4 is coming out of beta
At this point wathing commentary of diablo is more fun than the game
Make a battle royal
I mean at this point just say D5 is in development. D4 is such a burnt bridge, it hit meme status, you dont come back from that. Unless they pull a FF…whatever one that was so bad they pulled it and fixed it, I just dont think they will ever get the playerbase back without a massive overhaul and relaunch event or something.
theyre lost in the weeds
Seeing how I do not have interest in seasonal model I won’t be coming back regardless, but at least those who do have something I guess
they should lean into the rated r , diablo like he said. diablo is meant t o be brutal. bloody. and unforgiving. get rid of the power scaling crap. if youre top level with god gear. you delete shit. end of story.
I had a really good time playing through to level 80 ish with my little sister when it released, but I just have less than 0% interest in returning for some reason. It feels like there’s nothing truly interesting left to do, and the cash shop leeches so many cool armor sets and mounts that would be creating motivation for me to grind and hunt for them. Just feels like mismanagement and low dev iq mixed with blizzard treasure goblin dogshit as usual idk
PTR makes perfect sense from a business perspective. why waste internal resources when you superfans slaves will do the work for free?
Its just look like AA meeting
Diablo IV is dead. I want my money back! Worst video game ever!
description is incorrect they talk about season 4 not 3, best edit it yo
Please let Diablo 4 servers up. I use it to fall asleep.
The frist second is sooo funny , they are look like sad homeless people wondering what went wrong in their life xd
Yes Hollow Knight and Elden Ring are also the first ARPGs that come to my mind.
They made an effort to not mentipn PoE or LE, it was so lame
Main thing they did was to simplify the game by getting rid of time eating mechanics that they originally put in to make the game last longer. Now it will be even easier to level and gear the char. The season ends when you gear the char the way you want because the content is crap.
Only way they’ll get me back to try the game is if they add the crusader class or some other paladin style class.
I’ve easily had my money’s worth out of D4. Four level 100 characters and enjoyed the game. Seasons then came along and I dip in and out to play those. No problems for me. I’ve bought games in the past and yeah they’ve not been my thing and I’ve not really played them, that’s how it goes.
Ehhh I made it 20 mins in and I realized I just don’t give a shit… peace out boys.
If they can’t figure out what an ARPG is it explains why loot was so bad.
I think the itemization changes is finally moving into a good spot. Less affixes rolled on an item (with useless affixes being removed) with higher values & with a crafting system that can help better augment decent base items with more affixes. That and the mastery system changes for item roll tiers is all really positive news for the direction of the game.
That being said you still have a lackluster skill tree, resource regen to use spenders is still being gated by generators, and much more issues plaguing the game to truly look past right now. I’m saying these changes are the best Blizz have ever proposed, but the good faith has all but dried up now. These changes are not enough to create a lasting experience, there needs to be more done to buy back that charity from those they have consistently let down.
“This is our last chance”
Well, in their defense… Just like I always say whenever I mess up continously; “The amount of tries +1 is the charm!”
promises on paper… on paper looks good
PTR is saying “we (devs) don’t know what were doing and we need you (playerbase) to test for us”.
What a joke and we bought this game.
joe looks like he is on gunpoint to the guy on left..
Just give me a fucking gen build for Frenzy and Reap like they promised in Alpha.
No inherent melee damage reduction, another stupid decision proving they never learn from past mistakes.
they have PTR cuz they don’t or can’t have good QA in their company, outsorcing inhouse quality to ppl since 2013
PoE trading sim or a loot finder Arpg.
Dude has to make up his mind about what he wants.
Trading leads inevitably to a shit gameplay loop.
Bla bla blabla blaa blaa bla bla bla bla bla blabla bla bla.
What I heard was : We are having a PTR because we don’t understand why players are mad our Diablo like ARPG isn’t Diablo like?
Did bro really just call Elden Ring an ARPG
JAB-BLOW
It’s going to be paid???
All in all sounded really positive and actually might be enough to bring me back for the new season. Looks like they got rid of one of the top 5 issues which is the item storage just for a Aspects. But still i wonder how gameplay is… do we still have to spam one skill to build up mana & wait for long cooldowns to use other skills.. dose the game immediately start to feel like its falling off after level 20 where your getting weaker and weaker… Is it going to be the same builds again where picking other skills is just useless… and of course will they end up nerfing everything again if people are having fun.
Also, I like the way Rod Fergusson was there for the first two of these things they ever did and when all the changes they made went belly up he went into hiding since, leaving the poor foot soldiers in the state they’re in now.
🤡D🤡I🤡A🤡B🤡L🤡O 🤡
Do you guys not have phones ?
What is the point in Sacred items then? I play world tier 3 to 4 from lvl 50 to lvl 70, it`s only 20 levels window for those items to be viable. I can pass those 20 levels in 1 day of playtime!
They just sit there looking depressed af nodding their heads up and down its so sad to watch, they are so out of touch just give it up.
PTR = they want their players to make the game because they are incompetent
Calling Hollow Knight an ARPG is wild.
Cant wait for the 5 minute news/patch update where they cancel the game all together *a la overwatch 2
The guy on the left has very annoying aura around him
Would be so fun if all feedback is bad and they actually have to end service for d4 because they do shit again
Crazy hate in the comments lol I love this game, and the changes being made are really good. Obviously since they’ve been doing this for so long they should have just had this stuff right off the bat, but again, I still like the game, and hope for more good changes in the future. It’s a very casual game, I turn my brain off, make monsters go boom, and that’s what I have time for and enjoy 🤷
Just shut down the game. Lets be honest. Who playes it? How many left? How many left for Last epoch? How many left for PoE? How many will leave? I have a hard time finding new people actually getting diablo 4. Maybe for holidays and sales. Game is on lifesupport.
the far left guy keeps staring in to my soul
Blizzard should probably avoid the term SARPG because Blizzard
IMO D4 got a lot of hate for no reason. The game was good on release, but with the lack of meaningful endgame people wrote it off then and there. Had D4 released in 2013, the game would be concidered a masterpiece.
And IMO a game like this can’t be great without player feedback. I highly doubt D4 could have been made any better then it was on release, and was always meant to be added upon with every patch.
I played 2 hours of PoE when it released, was PoE great from day 1? Or did they need player feedback, and patches to make the game what it is today?
Die entschuldigen sich ernsthaft damit das es angeblich nicht unsere „Art“ Spiel war
Die sind wirklich verrückt geworden blizzard gehört wirklich ein Ende gemacht
No. D4 is dead. Just waiting for the Seasons n seeing how they are….
PTR= free labor+ free training for try hards who hit the season running hard and screw us all over with game play tailored to their ability.
What is diablo 4? A shit game
I like for examples they named games like Elden Ring and Hollow Knight that aren’t arpgs instead of their actual competition like POE or Last Epoch lol
game is boring after lvl 50…doesnt matter what they do.
What’s there to even save? It’s a soulless fucking game designed to addict you to looting meaningless trash for months and months until you give up and just pay them money to buy the cool gear…
I forgot about D4, I didn’t know if anyone was still playing it
People still play D4 ? LOL
6:50 guy with the glasses…his face says it all…THATS the look of defeat :dead:
Offline mode would of been nice
Rofl no matter what they try to fix or do. its shit and it wil remain shit if you dont listen. only game i ever tried to refund my money for
Trying to turn Diablo into a live service game like Destiny ended up being a bad decision, who knew!
“They’ve won me over”
Cool story bro.
the biggest mistake = We can’t continue leveling paragons, like in Diablo 3. The rest is detail.
Blizzard’s Last Chance was like 5-10 years ago.
All ARPG’s suck, the same grinding fest over and over and over.
I guess the game needs RE-forging.
There is no Roleplay in Blizzard Games never was never will be
Alan Jackson was so passionate and did such great work on Heroes of the Storm and now he’s stuck working on this garbage. It hurts to watch.
Horses
Everytime you think you’re suffering, enter this video and look at joe shely’s face.
3 minutes in, Joe Shely has clearly lost the plot. Someone please, remove any sharp objects from this man’s desk and get him out of the premises.
JFC everytime I see the devs for this game they look like they’ve aged about 10 years and are massively dehydrated O.o my god it must be an actual hellscape over there.
Even if it somehow survives or is saved.. much like Tom Hanks in Castaway.. everybody who loved the franchise will have already moved on and left it for dead
I just don’t wanna waste my time man, Ima wait for season 10.
90% excuse 10%bullshit
Asmon absolutely losing it
5th last chance 😂
That man has the looks of total defeat.
Dead inside. But the company keeps killing him over and over lol. Poor guy.
they are really struggling to figure out what makes a game good huh
PTR : We are too lazy to test our own game and we want people who are already paying us to do it for free. And the sad part is that they’ll be happy to do it too
POE DOESN’T NEED A PTR
FFXIV DOESN’T NEED A PTR
FUCK THIS COMPANY MAN
LAST CHANCE YOU GUYS.
What’s the tldr? I’ve got manhwa to watch
So are they going to have unlimited stash room?
This so cringe
ABOBA POTENT
So funny. All these comments of D4 dead, d4 bad and yet they’re all still here, watching the content about D4 and still keep up with D4 content. 😂😂 can’t make this up.
Diablo 4 is an SA rpg. How do you not hear yourself 🤣
Why do i have a feeling that we are gonna be back in May when S4 starts talking about the super last chance of D4 lmao
The games just been announced to come out on game pass
Wtf even was that first 6 minutes?
Joe just wants to go home
Diablo 4 created a new genre, DARPG.
Drama action role-playing game. 😅
When you release a sequel game after 15 years and its basically a copy paste with upgraded graphics and some new things dont expect people to praise your shitty product.
They need a PTR because they fuck up too much
Last Epoch and poe is literally giving them the blueprint. I dont understand why they just wont change the game to become more inline to what players want.
im not sure what it really needs. when i was waiting for it to come out, i was thinking it would have all of these options for abilities and customization that just weren’t there when i actually played it. the only ability mods you had were all on aspects, and there was only like one aspect per ability that even modified the ability enough to make it different, like the twisting blades aspect for rogues. the paragon system just adds modifiers to damage, resistances and stuff like that, and i wouldnt call it customization as much as power/defense increases. i was looking for something in the skill tree that would allow you to change a firewall to a wave of fire, or a hydra to a hydra that casts your chain lightening ability or frost nova. thye could have done a lot with the franchise, but they just didnt take advantage of the data they had on what people really wanted.
You cannot define everything as ROLE PLAYING , by simply adding levels and attributes to it. Role playing has to have Immersion ,Choice and Freedom , that tries to emulate real life.
Elden Ring is a very Limited Role Playing game. I Would argue it’s an Action game with RPG elements.
Wizardy , Bladurd Gate, Might and Magic , Icewind Dale , Torrment , Disco Elisum , Elder Scrools,
Kindgdom come Deliverence is a Prime example of an RPG.
Not every Kusoge , with Levels , Skill Trees and Stats is a fking RPG…. these people make games for a living , jesus.
DIablo is a Hack and Slash with RPG elements , it’s not an RPG.
They’re LARPING , real devs.
amazing, now i got something to fall asleep too
Seeing that fez radar sitting there I know nothing is going to change. Dude is a diversity hire.
I played D1-3 and I wouldn’t touch 4 with a ten foot pole. I’m not an idiot I can see the shill happening. Stop that money grab and I’ll come back. In the interim I’ll stick to true heart and soul companies like last epoch or POE
“Elden ring is an aRPG” This dude has clearly no idea what an aRPG is
Is it just me or does the guy on the left look like he’s killed 2 people In his life.
i am not watching 2 hours of this shit, can someone surmise what they’ve said?
how bad your skills are if with “unlimited” budget you cant beat self found company like GGG? Most of the blizzard team should be fired, it seems they are don’t know what they are doing …
AssRPG
I just think Asmongold should rewatch his Asmongold reacts to Barney or uberdangers he is so different In the worst way he just went down the negative route and I think we all thought he was the guy that sees both side all the time but that’s not true
Exciting news for The 2 People still playing
That’s a big no, DIABLO is over finished Finnish done game over!😂
My feedback for them is to just scrap this game.
2:13:07 THANK ME LATER!
nah, i’m good.
not gonna touch that game ever again.
it’s like the wow retail cycle, just in a shorter timespan…
They should release the other classes they were planning on releasing down the road NOW! They’re done otherwise……I’m downloading Dragon’s Dogma 2 now and buying Rise of the Ronin Friday. by then d4 will be dead to me.
A long time ago my boss was getting on my case about something… I just pointed out that I’ve out lasted 5 bosses before him… That’s because corporate replaces the head of a branch when that branch is falling not the workers… That is how old school did things… From what I can see here some department heads needs replacing… just saying….
God imagine 2016 asmgold reaction to this it would of been funny and worth a watch now I’m just watching some hater it’s so boring now I can’t wait till asmon stop with this pure ego driven hate watching … he wants people to press him he wants the conflict but doesn’t realize that when he did not care about it he was at his prime
Ok i’m 5 mins into the video and i already feel like i’ve been mansplained what they want they game to be like and how it isn’t made for me… o.O I haven’t bought the game yet because i’ve been waiting for it to become good, i guess i never will xD
“Blizzard finally listening” i am sure i hear it in last 10+ years many times😂
That opening speech had as much lag as the average season launch.
Oh another sales pitch. How do people keep falling for these monetized soulless scams? Its ENTIRE framework of systems is designed to funnel players into its pos shop and not good gameplay and level design.
Game is trash throw it in the garbage
Why would you play D4 over Last Epoch or PoE. I own/have played all of them and I cannot think of anything.
PTR just means certain players will find exploits, not report them, and abuse them when the season launches lmfao
Xbox probably put the pressure on them to make the game playable by the time it’s on Gamepass
Asmond is just watching this because Joe is balding more than him.
Is Diablo 4 saved? No, obviously, no…
Im feeling like second hand embarrassment watching this 🤣
Go play Last Epoch or Black Desert Online
these guys are dumpster tier
The dev team can’t not stand in the fire circle.
I wonder if they changed the bonus stats requirements on the paragon bord since they removed one afix from items.🤨
43:56 the dev wanted to say “traversal” skill/tag because they got a lot of inspiration from Last Epoch lmfao. It was at the tip of his tongue. hahahah good job though.
the guy with the beard is angry AF something is happening and he aint happy at all he is so frustrated you can see it on his face 😀 .
What I’m trying to say is Diablo is like Diablo, ground stare as I’m so confident in what I’m saying
I’m at just 2:56 and I can’t believe what I’m hearing 😂
Take ol yeller behind the shed at sunrise.
sad to see how down that dude on the left is… but do better…
Imagine going into an interview laughing and giggling trying to explain why your shit game is not shit.
“important to get it right” lol. Is it? is it really? YA THINK IT IS?
man those 2 on the left is hard jaded. they alrdy fought and done with beuracracy and politic bullshit
Who got the TLDR?
so much empty bla bla give us a list of changes and go on
This wasn’t actually to bad. Hopefully the season 4 mechanic is good as well to go with it.
TLDW
Diablo… 4 Last chances
I find it hard to believe the same people who designed the original game, can fix what they made. If these new changes are so great, why weren’t they there in the first place? I’ll believe it’s fixed when it is. I have very little faith.
It’s a start, but I have doubts blizz will handle the details well with these changes.
Dont wanna kill your hopes or the hype here, but for now its just talking. Its not live yet, and we all know where Blizzard is, there is a way to fuck it up again like they always do.
I purchased D4 few weeks ago and refunded after 2 hours, for 2 reasons
1. The characters did not look appealing. I did not feel invested in my character.
2. The game constantly lagged, due to the requirement of constant internet connection.
These two are things that cant be fixed with patches, so I dont know if Ill ever return to the game.
The new itemization affix and crafting system actually makes the game feel like a real RPG. I will be playing it once again after they implement the update. you can kinda “brick” items in the new crafting system. on your 4th time of a crafting upgrade, it will randomly upgrade one stat on the item by like 20-25%. so you can “brick” it by not upgrading the stat you want if you’re a min maxer. this recreates replay ability and to chase items that will keep me engaged longer in the game. Since they removed a lot of pointless affix to items, you’ll be able to find more quality 925 stuff when you kill monsters ilvl95+
I really hate having to exude the same amount of caution and skepticism reserved for unknown developers and titles for my preferred franchises. I’m old enough to remember that when a game from a franchise you liked released, it was good. Even if the gameplay sucked, the fan service would help you swallow it down. Nowadays, you get nothing but a bad taste in your mouth.
Diablo was the first game I played where you have to make a new toon every season. I didn’t know that is how the game is played and I felt so dumb when I payed more for the extra 3 day preorder
100$ wasted on the pre-order
How’s he STILL the Game Director, it boggles the mind 😂
these things should have been in the game from the get go, but im glad to see they are putting them in now rather than never.
ARPG =/= Action RPG weirdly enough
Nope. Try better next time,… *evolve.*
D4 good
Diablo 4 is one of the worst games I played, I feel so stupid for buying it right away. Not to mention I didn’t even buy D3, bought D2 R though…
Left most dude looks fed-the hell-up. 😂
Joe has less hair with each video lol
Imagine spending this much money on a game and getting diablo 4 out of it. Think of the THOUSANDS of projects they could have done instead…
Not everything has to cost over 100 million dollars
Thank you, Last Epoch/Path of Exile, for inspiring this small indie game to improve.
earliest ive ever been love u zack
Yeah at this point if they dont completely restructure they are going to lose even more of their player base.
1 min boys leave a like
bruh
Watch how PoE devs talk about their game today. LOGIN
Early gang
To no one’s surprise, D4 continues to be bad.
Let them decide sounded personal 🤣🤣🤣{0:17}
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Diablo 4 is my biggest gaming let down ever. I was so excited for it and it sucked 🙁
It’s unsavable.
This should be good.
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