You got to remember that there’s some people that are out there sweaty as fuk at anything that they do they’re going to look up a book guide no doubt about it even if they’re not struggling

Its just gonna be Lost Ark

K let’s not forget unlocking the harder game mode type thing was also in the 3rd game which isn’t NEW I keep hearing the BS without seeing what they’re promising as being interesting and new. DUDE LMFAO the Diablo game at its CORE was about an open world where you could pvp someone or just kill them and loot. It’s not a game for everyone like yall always go on about. Now Diablo is some MEH mid kind of boring exp with no real difficulty like other online players. To add insult to injury on top of wifi fees monthly and Xbox gold fee they are forcing a $70 charge for just a single player WHILE THEIR PRODUCTION FEES are ON ROCK BOTTOM smaller than they ever were. The cope for this is real lol.

I haven’t PVP’ed anyone in a Diablo game since that one time in 1998 when that one guy challenged me and he basically one-shotted me. I didn’t realize at the time that cheating was prevalent in the game.

12:10 because in PoE there’s AT LEAST deviation between +5, +10, +20, and you’re going toward things that DO something and is relevant to your class… D4 stats are largely irrelevant and most people will just grab dex or willpower; in D4 the “get excited for it” node they showed was a 5-25% dmg increase conditional… compare this to chaos inoculation or blood magic or ANY ascendancy tree… it’s a joke. you don’t need complexity to just not have dogshit “number go higher” as 99% of the board.

MMO and ARPGs stop being fun when it comes to endgame…. Just forced busywork. Lazy Devs should add more content instead of just adding more stupid currencies and incremental stat gain to eeeek out the same repetitive content.

I wish some of the other popular ARPGs were on console.

Im sorry Blizzard but nobody cares if you like the tree being beautifull or mystically haunting. I dont care if the sky turns darker.
Who does these PR presentations? Who is this for?
The only thing that went thru my mind was straight up just a wish for them to shut the fk up and talk about the mechanics for more than 5 seconds.
This is Dragon Isles all over again. The garbage Trailers and even worse presentation finnaly failed to hype me or get exited for the expansion and now im free of WOW.
Great job Blizzard!! At this point im not even surprised.

D2 had limited respecs, and they adds more respec chances(3 free+ drop items).
D3 which was the game after D2 and we got free respec.
Even WOW had high respec cost, and they changed it, twice.
What possible reasons or logics did Blizzard had for them to insist that we must go through this huge respec cost experiment again in D4?
Leave room and test the water for real money respecing? Through season pass or cashshop?

What an absolute beta figgot crying about people making jokes on how the diablo dev looks souless, its ironic. What a complete clown, EAD.

Asmond being a cuck about people making fun of the soulLess devs in the video

So world tier is like D3’s Torment levels then? They start with 4 levels, and a couple of years we have 10 levels again? 😛

I don’t want to do pvp because of the way its packaged. People load up their character with gear and expendable items like they’re going on an overlanding trip and can’t afford to forget or miss anything.
Pvp should feel like catching eyes at a stoplight and full sending whatever you have at the moment all out. It should be over fast and all you should think is I’ll get them next time, or better luck next time sucker.

“if people who pvp want to still get loot and play that way they can”
no… because just about no one but noobs will interface with this bullshit forced pvp dogshit as they literally get ganked and lose their shit they just farmed.
it’s just the “pvp player” who simply enjoys bullying others and at the first notion of them losing their stuff or a fair fight they’re gone.
it’s 2023… not 2003. this has basically killed any hype for thousands of players and it’s going to be a wildfire of anti hype for the game if it wasn’t bad already. seriously you can’t be fucking serious with +5 main stat paragon 2.0 and the “legendary node” is a conditional 25% as the thing they want to show people to be excited for… christ how do these people have jobs working for billion dollar companies?

All I saw for this trailer was that all the content they introduced in this was what was in the endgame beta. Get ready to do nonstop nightmare dungeons, broken up with a short travel to averice world boss and Somtimes if you feel like it the other world bosses. Ashava or I forget the third world boss( they showed it as the new trailer.) otherwise you are just not being efficient. And nightmare dungeons are basically maps of the same extremely repetitive dungeons.

Honestly at launch I just want a good looking game that plays relatively smooth with decent systems that are complex enough to add specialization but simple enough to understand.

So long as there is enough meat for players to dig into and grow the player base that will be enough until the game is grown in future expansions. Clearly they are trying to appeal to a much wider audience and they have people’s attention now. Let’s hope they follow through on the hype with a solid delivery when it counts.

Asmongold is such a snowflake when it comes to pvp.

dont play the game if u dont want to pvp, simple rule. its not poe, its pvp and group activities and events,
its more mmo side.

As a kid I looked at guys like John Carmack, and I thought. This guy is more hard-core than me, he has better ideas tries harder, and there’s no way I could do a better job. I look at the people they get to talk to us nowadays and I see someone that took a course I can’t afford, telling me this is the best thing yet like I can’t remember the past. Are these hard working developers and idea people? I can’t tell. They look like the marketing department and they work like McDonald’s employees. “I don’t t know how to make burgers, I just do ketchup and wrappers, and I’m good at what I do”

Its not a good indication when everything exciting about diablo we have seen always leaves us with “we are gonna have to see the things that come after that to truly know”
Melee are underwhelming in beta; we have to wait for late game to see them get better.
Talents seem boring during beta; we have to wait till endgame to see if they get better.
Dungeons seem repetitive and boring; we also have to wait till endgame to see if they get better.
I swear the fanboys that blindly defend games are out of control. Theyre the real reason we keep getting cheap half finished games.

Man.. these devs really suck at this.
No excitement, no enthusiasm.
Dead soulless gazing into the camera whilst reading a premade script written by someone else is tough.
Redhead at the very least had SOME enthusiasm but still very robotic.

Comparing this to the ViDocs Bungie put out and it’s no competition.
Pity, endgame they showed so far is a good base/starter looking/hoping to see good and meaningful innovations on them as the seasons roll around.

im just going to turn my brain off and play the game, if i like good, if i dont like i go back to poe and finish out that league.

So same as Diablo 3, just another way of picking the points.

Wolcen Lords of Mayhem still has the best board I’ve played in an arpg. Flawed rpg, but I definitely enjoyed it and think Diablo IV’s Paragon board looks like a more simplified version of it, despite Wolcen’s already being fairly simple.

Wow it’s not an entire hour long way to go asmon

the red head is pretty. 😀

I can only resume the Diablo expirience of the last released games as: “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice…” At this point, only braindead would preorder something regarding this franshise. Just wait and see how they will f*** this up. Cause they will.

It seems like anyone who played beta can’t wait to play, and people who didn’t play are concerned and hating on something they haven’t played yet

From my point of view

A bit sad to see them doing this for hard mode with just slapping affixes into them. There are other much better methods for creating hard mode dungeons that actually add to the experience not just slapping brainless affixes on them. FFXIV has some great hard mode content redoing the dungeons with harder mobs and new boss fights in it as an example. Still hopeful this game can be good and not feel like a malaise grind.

omg its a fucking tree

Reminder Last Epoch is only 35 dollars and is much better than D4

This video got me excited for endgame. But yeah, I’m kinda glad I’m not some hardcore player that takes everything so seriously and critical, because I’m able to simply look forward to the game and plan on having fun. For me, I just look at it like: Will I get my money’s worth? And I know I will.

Lmao, these are the same things they were saying about Dragonflight, and it ended up being trash. Also pretty fascinating how they can make a 10min video of them claiming bold shit like “You’ll always have stuff to do, we have many people designing different paths bla bla”, and then not giving us any real info as to how they’re gonna manage doing that, but instead, they give us a preview of “world tiers” which is a system that’s existed in these types of games since forever. I can play D2 forever, doesn’t mean it has good systems in place for replayability, same goes for literally any other game ever made.

What do people want the end game to be? Everyone complains but I haven’t heard any suggestions. People still grind diablo 2, I think it’s fine.

The problem with unlimited respec/no respec cost is no weight to decisions

Nobody wants objectives in dungeons.. come on devs

elder Portals xD

The features they showed are a very solid foundation that will be enhanced with the subsequent seasons. I’m also sure that reaching 100 will take some time just like in PoE or D2 and 100% clear the map is also a nice time sink, leveling alts will be easier and will encourage more than one char per season so there’s lots to do. Will it get boring after a while? I don’t know.
Excited for the livestream with Rhykker on the 20th about beta feedback and more endgame questions. Rhykker will definitely bring up the concerns of the community.

Just rip off POEs endgame and we’ll be happy

ok, but nobody’s asking… WHAT’S THE ENDGAME?! They just talked about everything we already had in D3, but almost nothing new for the endgame.

killing same stuff over and over. welcome to diablo my guy, its been like that for 10+ years

‘create new expeiences’ Narrator: Sadly, not any of the experiences were new.

That red head tho

I want Gladiator gear, but I do not want to do pvp. What do I do?

Wait did Asmond just do a 180 and talk bad about PoE for once? That’s incredible, he just said it’s overly complicated and doesn’t want Diablo that way? Said the skill tree also has +5 stat in PoE? What a difference that is because all you’ve done so far is talk about how much better PoE is and how only smart people play it 😂

Let me save everyone 50-100usd, you find and kill Lilith, Diablo is Resurrected and then u fight and kill him. Then maybe another angel turns bad and u kill them ect..the end. 😂🤣😂🤣

Asmon’s alliance crybaby stance against pvp and people making fun of fatties in the videos he watches is just hilarious. He’s overwhelmingly hypocritical and soft.

Pvp can become a design limitation for pve. I hope they don’t balance too aggressively for pvp.

Did I see le unique and legendary system

100k refund cost lmao

Maybe it just me, but whenever I see these in-depth developer videos online were they talk about the upcoming features of unfinished/unreleased product, it’s almost never a good sign. It just seems like the selling wine before it’s time. I just hope Diablo 4 does suffer from the “Peter Molyneux effect”.

She is morbidly obese.

So, you’ll have to chase pve progression in pvp areas !?!

Diablo 2 we grinded a lot, wow the game, I thought you grinded, farm areas

My intuition tells me that its not gonna be a happy ride on the release.

honestly after talking to a few of my turbo casual gamer friends they loved the D4 beta. I think the game will be a success among people who don’t really give a shit or even know about POE or other ARPG games. It’s the moms spaghetti boys that are going to nit pick every little aspect of the game to death.

i really hope blizzard pull it off before release, because i played trough act 1-6 on the closed beta for friends and family and i must say… it was hella boring, endgame ofc.

i am honestly surprised you or your editor didn’t put that THICK woman in the thumbnail like you normally do what happened? cause she has not only boobs but a belly too? and don’t come withe the superficial card since your thumbnails, content clips and youtube/insta/tiktok are THE prime example of superficalty

People ARE complaining pansies these days. Just ignore everything and judge it yourself.

3:35 But it does say about them (not all of them ofc) when you look at the game.

So they literally just copied The Division’s endgame and called it a day

I never understood why people held different people to different standards based on those peoples actions and historical decisions or their individual capabilities either. Especially if one person or group does something that people don’t like and the following person or group has an opportunity to not repeat the same mistake but chooses not to, big deal, they are just doing what others are doing. Everyone should be treated the same no matter what, everyone should frankly be treated like Nazi’s regardless of who they are. I am 100% with Asmon on this.

i like the way PVP is talked about here. i might actually give it a little looksee when game releases.

i do believe a lot of the negativity surrounding diablo 4 is not really the game itself but rather because it’s blizzard, as for the stat paragons, they feel bad because everyone i’ve seen talk about attributes based on the betas have said that they feel like the attributes contributes to next to nothing

the comparison between the two games dont make sense since poe actually has builds that are built around scaling a main stat to gain massive amounts of damage which is something there has been no indication of in d4

as a last personal note, the beta pretty much just thaught me that i wont play rogue because it doesnt feel good, the basic skills feel worthless and the core skills barely feels any better as well as also the combo points to me at least were hard to even feel a difference between using a core skill with 0 combo points and using the same skill with 3 combo points, also visually rogue for sure got the short end of the stick with pretty much nothing being flashy or cool, bow feels like i shoot an arrow and there is nothing special about it while melee feels like i stab with a dagger or throw said dagger and thats all there is to it, like it doesnt look visually pleasing in my opinion at least, but with pretty much any other class, they have cool visuals to their skills most of the time, thats at least my take on rogue and i didnt really have enough time to thoroughly test the other classes so i cant say too much about them.

People on you stream complaining about respec cost, dude I was getting 50k+ doing 1 dungeon run in under 5 min at level 25 on beta. Like come on guys

We need an offline mode

There is always some pointless farming.

All the game really has to be is… fun and rewarding. All the rest will fall into place. Idgaf what anyone says… the beta was fun for me.

Ah yes the revolutionary world tiers that you unlock by beating the previous tier. Never existed in Diablo before. Very exciting.

You need to realize, D4 only started production after Diablo Immortal was torched at Blizcon. The fact that its a copy paste mix of D2 and D3, albeit with good looking graphics, it took them 6 months to change a few skills from already implemented character designs, reface the rune slots into a skill tree, add a paragon board (that can be tilted) and slapped you with a $70 shut up price tag. Had they started this game with good intentions, and took the time to think about new ideas, approaches, and new classes we’d have something new. It’s back to Paragons, spin to wins, with the addition of monetized battle passes.

12:33 yeah +5 stats were a thing over 10 yrs ago, its not that they are hating on Diablo and ignoring Poe its just one was made ages ago during that time and the other is trying to make a new game with new things but sounding not so different.

A lot of iffy things with D4 but honestly we won’t know until release exactly how it will be. I see a lot of people always comparing D4 to POE which is totally fine but remember POE has 10 years of development, D4 isn’t even out yet so they surely have a lot of room to grow……right? 😅

it blows my mind the nitpicking going on with this game. It’s a great game.

The paragon skill tree looks slightly complex.

AsMcgay is an insecure whiny Pansy. I used to like your content but I can’t believe you would ban somebody for name calling.. insecurities look bad on you.

The beta was fine and I’ll still buy it, but I’m sick of the games that people are just gonna use a website to look the elitist build

Spot on with comments on forced participation in PvP. If I’m rail-roaded into PvP, I will toss the game. Full-stop.

The cost of respec I would assume is to make you have to wait until a little bit higher level to switch around your stuff.

I can’t watch asmongolds videos anymore they are too long. Can someone crop Subway Surfers or smth on the bottom so I don’t get bored?

It seems to me the whole respec cost going so high you have to make a new character was hyperbole that people were taking way too literally. I expect even at end game a day of grinding will last you a week of respecs.

Asmongold threatening to ban people for calling the fat lady fat lmao

is this the same guy that calls people retards?

Does anyone normal work at blizzard? I feel like everytime i see devs talk at blizzard it’s all fake, dressed up, and super stale…

Literally looks like new world endgame

This is why mobs scaling to players is awful. it makes doing inferior context slow, grindy, and boring.

I been playing last epoch for 1 day and holy crap is that game so much fun, I had more fun playing last epoch than d4 beta. I haven’t hit end game yet but man everything about that game from the skills to each skill having its own skill tree is so good. I love it. I’ll play d4 until i get tired of doing those same dungeons then prolly go back to last epoch tbh but time will tell

Asmodan is a dev?

I don’t get why blizzard neeeds to show those butteer golems on theiir videos it was the samee with the wow roundtable thinggy about dragonflight. it’s just diisgusting and disreespectfull to the viewers to exposee them to that
and yes I know that the ununited states of North america have a 60% obesity rate, but that’s not normal in the rest of the world

+5 Dexterity

-70$

that redhead is so hot

They should probably stop releasing these videos because they’re not doing the game any favors.

I refunded the game mid beta and this video has convinced me it was the right decision
D4 is going to be garbage at the beginning I can just feel it

I like diablo, but it will die off after 2 weeks.

I genuine hate dungeon objectives

What’s with the neck beards hating on the +5 node system? A huge majority of D4 players are just playing it for the story as we’ve been playing since D1, we don’t want some wildly complicated reinvented wheel shit, I don’t even care about PVP, just make the core gameplay /fun/.

That felt like 4 car salesmen trying to sell me something

Uh oh asmon protecting poor woke people and murican sensibilities…

Asmons I don’t wanna run dungeons over and over they add a ton of other things and asmons well I don’t wanna keep doing all these different things over and over lol wtf are you talking about?

Poe is free, blizzard is 90 pounds and +more in the future

From my understanding to do harder content you need to run regular dungeons. Farming dungeon drops to unlock Nightmare and hell? This will make the endgame lack luster. Honestly not excited at all about this and will probably flop if this is the mechanic.

If the systems work together in any meaningful or direct way, it necessitates interacting with them, which goes against their idea of letting you do only 1 thing if you want, like pure pvp without feeling like you need to do other stuff. We all know that if meaningful items exist in these separate systems, people will feel obligated. I don’t think there really is a good solution here, other than to acknowledge this and say we can’t do it. On a logic level, it’s not possible. Pretending you can will just disappoint players. They are telling gamers what they want to hear, instead of what they need to hear.

@asmongold you should know as someone who played PoE that it may have a huge tree and tons of skills but to get into the deep end game your limited to a small amount of builds… not to mention very specific gear and min/max

Elden Ring isn’t supposed to have an endgame and seasons. Sure you can choose how to “play your own way” but the game starts and ends. It’s not made with a live service mmo crap mindset.

What’s the difference between Blizzard and POE? Bc POE has proven to be a good game and Blizzard has proven that their best is “pretty good”, that’s the difference.

Endgame is just that. Farm Nightmare keys, do nightmare dungeons until your strong enough for the next world tier. Rinse and Repeat. If they had more to show, they would have. Get ready for a repetitive endgame. At least until they add all the seasonal content they’ve promised. D4 will probably be really awesome in season 7.

Dont want to waste time on content to do the content you want to do…. like grinding for maps and labs in poe

when he says “aparently it came out 15 hours ago he is referencing the person who got fired for not letting him know about it sooner ;D

who actually gets bought by these telemarketing corpo fake “devs. explain” they really so full of sh.

Longevity in ARPGs comes from replayability. Not the end-game. Look at D2 – almost no end-game, infinitely replayable because re-rolling a new character is where the fun is. ARPGs are not the same as MMOs, so “free respec” is akin to killing the game. Period. ARPG characters are short-lived experiences of building something that works, enjoying it for a bit, then doing it all over again with something else. So many people compare 1 game to another, when you need to compare the genre of game to itself, and look at what works. D2, PoE, legend status. D3 = free respec = shit tier.

“Lol Diablo stats are toooooooo simple”

_Boots up PoE_

“Time to follow a build guide verbatim so I don’t have to engage with the complexity”

Asmongold: “I don’t understand why people are being so negative towards Activision Blizzard? What have they done wrong besides a) sexually harassing a woman to a point, where she committed suicide, b) sexually harassed a bunch of other female employees, c) left women and minorities out of promotions and pay raises, d) released a shitty ass immoral abomination of a “game” named Diablo Immortal, e) gave away OW 1.2 “for free”, a completely dead game otherwise, while selling skins for 26 fucking dollars (to people with low impulse control), f) leaked a diversity chart, which pretty much confirms that they will never ever release a straight white male character again …

Do I need to continue? Because I can. I’m pretty sure I can complete the entire alphabet with bullet points.

I’m gonna buy the game on a decent discount, play it for the story and the vibe and I’m done . Next one …

It’s that ladies fault druids look how they do huh…

That woman looks the big exploder mobs in Diablo

Let’s be real no matter how complex the game is there’s only one build

imagen using a log out macro cuz you failed so hard thats not hardcore thats pussy core

I’m still very concerned about the concepts of this game. As a D1 and D2 player back in the day, these end game systems don’t really want to make me spend 70 USD on this game, especially so when there are competing aRPG’s that are way better (imo)… Also, when devs force you to remake a character from scratch because the avenues to respec your existing character is either non-existent or in the case of D4 very costly while making an emphasis on that concept of ‘you’ll have to make a new char if you wanna try another build’ is telling me that there isn’t much content and the devs are relying on replaying campaign as a form of pseudo content.

I know this video doesn’t really show much, but so far, the way they spoke and what they’ve shown for end game doesn’t really breed innovation or anything interesting. I can already tell, PvP is gonna be broken asf, where it will be gated by Paragon, where CC heavy and massive AOE builds with high paragon will always faceroll other players. I can already tell, majority of end game is gonna be farming for nightmare keys en masse so you can do a particular dungeon that is faster to run compared to the others back to back to back to back.

Sounds boring. I’m still not gonna buy this game from all I’ve experienced and seen so far. I used to say imma wait for the game to release then decide, but as time goes by, and I play other shit like Last Epoch etc, my will to buy D4 is decreasing day after day.

My problem with infinitely swapping back and forth without restriction is that ARPG players are absolute spergs. Look at the D3 builds. There’s a bounty build, a speedrift build, and a rift pushing build for every single build out there. Now imagine because of no respec costs the optimal thing to do is to respec 200 paragon points and all your skillpoints and swap half your gearpieces because you go do a bounty. Now you wanna run a NM rift so do it again. Oh World Boss comming up better get back to ton 10 minutes ahead so I got time to respec to my World Boss build. Oh let’s PvP time to respect to my PvP build.

Nobody is going to want to play like that but top tier D4 will look exactly like that when you make respeccing unlimited and free because that’s what people already are doing in D3 right at this time except D3 doesn’t have even 20% of the build complexity D4 has so you can suffer through it for longer. Not to mention because people will do this on the top end every piece of content is going to have to be balanced not around the average general purpose build with a few convenience respecs say an AoE node to an extra atk speed node for a World Boss, but around the optimal builds around that piece of content at all times. So now if you wanna do bounties you better believe you’re gonna respec cus they’re going to feel dogshit on your dungeon build. Wanna do world boss? Well better respec buddy because we just buffed them all for the people that have world boss builds. Are you fine with not respeccing and having a bad time? Alright then you have fun on your own buddy cus you know damn well nobody’s going to carry your ass on the internet if you refuse to spec into the optimal build :’) Been through that pain personally in Classic WoW wanting to have some frost mage fun but nobody will have you for any content that matters if you don’t spec into perfection as long as it’s viable to expect a respec.

What people don’t understand is there are no games with unlimited activities, there will never be one, I got bored playing poe very fast as well.

He’s worried about doing the same thing over and over again in endgame in an ARPG? All endgame in ARPGs are just various ways to give you an excuse to kill a bunch of shit and get loot. What does this even mean?

blah blah blah, this isnt what you think (it is), blah blah blah, more of the same, marketing, blah. on a side note, Blizz art team continues to not suck.

You literally never have to PVP, unless you really care about the cosmetics – but the same goes for the Battle Pass. You never have to buy the BP if you don’t want to.

please blizzard add in micro transactions and pay to win elements. Please please please. don’t listen to all the naysayers, immortal was a huge cash cow. Don’t you want that sweet green again?? PLEASE ADD IN P2W!!

Bro give the devs a break, Not everyone is super charismatic, and not everyone is camera material.

If you do anything over and over again it’s going to get tiring. All you can do is smoke weed and try to enjoy what we have now, or wait until not too long from now when AI is generating new content faster than we can complete them.

Poe has those nodes but they are a secondary choice that nobody takes typically. It’s all about noteable’s if all you have is 100 bonus points and 60 of them are bonus stats whats the point. Just give us 40 points at that point and remove stats like that.

i hope blizzard copy legion raid mechanics (LoA) and implement them on certain bosses in diablo’s future expansions.

So it’s gonna be dog?

I’ll tell you why this game sucks…its path of exiles with a diablo skin… most diablo players I know don’t play poe… notice you’re constantly comparing.. that’s why this game sucks…we want diablo back…d2r will still remain the only good playable diablo game

bad potrail of the paragon system. Showed on the shallowest way.
It’s much more interesting in reality.
Don’t want to scare casuals?

enjoy that huge deck in your salad with a side of shiet sandwhich LMAO D4 dead on arrival

paragon board is basically just the same as we have in d3 lol just with a couple keystones thrown in, literally copy&paste xD even a retard could have done that, they probably recycled effects from old legendarys and baked them into the board as well and the only main difference is that it has a actual max level which d3 had too in the beginning, so it can change in d4 too.

for my taste its a little too shallow, i didnt expected main stats, i expected uniqueness, this is inspirational copy&paste dogfood.

They kinda look ai generated 😀

Sounds sexist but wtf do these women know bout deep end game gameplay mechanics? i feel they put them there for “”gender equality “” …. Such fake force emotions and persona ,

I find it funny how that one chick is explaining dungeon affixes as if they invented them – as if POE hasn’t been doing it for a decade and other games even longer.

despite me enjoying the beta and being superexcited for the launch of D4 i was and still am pretty critical about a couple of design-descisions they made. But the hate towards this vid is hard to understand. Ppl are bitching because there are attribute points in there? What did they expect? I mean we knew we where going to get 4ish points to spend per levelup. What did they think they would spend all those points on? “Oh.. imma grab 25% dmg here and then i grab +50% max life over there and… oh i really would like this 15% chance to stun on hit over there and… yeah i’ ll take those 20% allress aswell. Few. Lvl 51 was a nice levelup. Cant wait to get to 52.” – Lol

I’m telling you D4 is a worse D3. It is already implementing everything D3 has done or already has in the game.
1) nightmare dungeon: so normal versus T16 dungeons. or lets go back to vanilla. You do Alkaizer run to get 5 stacks and then go to Fields of Misery and hope Decaying Crypt spawned.
2) open world activities for caches: Oh you mean Bounties for Material caches from D3
3) skill tree is non existent. 2 runes / skill = D4. 5 runes / skill = D3
4) if you think D4 is slower, people forgot how slow D3 was on launch. That was until someone figured out break points for Critical mass for wizard and Thrive on Chaos. 100% the game is zoom zoom.

D4 is a lesser D3 in an open world setting.

18:00 – 18:35 100% agree, probably the smartest thing that ever left his mouth. Its pretty much PoEs main problem.

You demons think you getting harder at Nightmare? Fool, it’s I who is rock hard just thinking of a possibility of getting better loot!

-$100 KEKW

So it is Warhammer Chaosbane + Inquisitor + PoE in the world of sanctuary.

They revealed that the main idea behind end game is just multiply mob DMG i health but also your dmg xd.

70usd kept in the pocket

I will say that there is not a double standard for blizzard vs POE. Stats like strength and intelligence mean different things and affect the games differently

No forced PvP please.

I still find it hilarious that everyone always complains about repetitive gameplay in arpgs. That’s literally what they’ve always been. Kill shit and get loot. That’s the whole game loop lol.

I mean fair enough that there’s a line as to how much grind you have to do to be able to get to the fun stuff again, though the inferior content argument can also get a bit dangerous in a way.
We all wanna farm the highest tier content possible and everything below it is going to feel inferior right. But then we’re done doing the highest tier of content and we say hey 4ssholes give us more content this game is boring now cus we could limitlessly farm the top tier content for a few days and get everything we wanted. So they add a new tier and now the tier you’ve farmed becomes inferior content so you don’t wanna do that to slow down the new top tier. Problem is because there’s no throttle you’re just going to run out of content again in a week and you’re back complaining that there’s not enough content.

I think the job of a game director is to find the goldilocks zone here. How much grind can we artificially put in between the fun top tier content to slow you down enough that the new content can actually keep up with the player’s need for new content, but not have it be slow enough that players feel like they hardly get to enjoy the top tier content? You can’t do without but too much is also going to be bad so I think instead of whether to gate endgame content or not we should rather have a debate on how much is too much and how can we spice up the inferior content in ways that makes it still fun to do, even though it’s not the most rewarding content in the game as of this time.

i have a feeling that this game will disappoint most ppl

Everybody needs to remember these horrible people are paid to tell us the game will be great…I personally don’t see it at all… secondly every single person who worked on this game looks like the exact person I wouldn’t trust to make a good game…

Diablo devs creativity for items and talents = %dmg and base stats. Like cmon give us crazy shit.

Asmon literally showing signs of getting old, last couple years you can visibly see his passion is lost, and all he does is trying react “logically” to whatever comes up, and behave in set of rules so not the bother dealing with all the “clout” might bring. before i though it was blizzard thing they let down so many times of his “passion” he felt alienated to “safe zone” of Blizzard universe and more and more distanced himself to video games. but i guess it wasn’t only just that. “i dont care, what ever spins your wheel” attitude is kind of feels not genuine. it might be time to retire, if you are that much not interested.

like for example old asmond could easily come up with argument that ,
depth does not equals to confusing.
or
even why “+ stat” points important in PoE but not in Diablo 3+ because there are no items/gear/gems has stat points requirements or tresholds you have to meet.
but instead of arguing he just goes with what majority a “average andy” would say.

I mean someones gonna do the maths for each build and people are going to copy and paste them.

People have double standards for Blizzard? Huh, I wonder what caused that ^^

ohno the wolcen spinny thingy oh no fuk me not again

Not sure why but I had this feeling while each Dev was talking. The feeling that… each one was full of shit. Not sure what about but something behind the eyes said “I’m not telling you the truth.”

This just made me not want to play D4. Sounds like endgame is just like fucking work. Grinding stuff to do stuff to kill mobs to get loot. Greater rifts are back in the form of nightmare dungeons.

Hard pass at this point

Uh oh they forgot to add a handicap midget to their developer panel

My bf was watching this and I clocked the AI/effect immediately. He doesn’t think the people speaking are AI or a filter, who else knows they’re not real people in a prop dungeon and this is a demonstration of their tech?? We bet $30 on this.

played beta.. .was super boring for me.. made it to 25 and there was nothing fun for me.. took about 18 boring lvl to finish act 1 boss… skills tree was soo basic it didn’t matter what you choose.

Only interesting thing in this endgame is the pvp….

what a fucking shit video the devs put out and jesus christ they made the paragon board look so awful (the fact that its got that many +stat nodes is fucking boring and sad regardless of what else is on there). I’m excited to play D4 more and everything but christ do this game and team have a long way to go.

highest production say-nothing video from blizzard in a while. hate these.

Its funny they have this presentation with gameplay more boring than what was happening in the demo, nearly fell asleep 2 times in their presentation, clearly the inverse of hype.

“Why, are there no gamers with phones here waiting for D-4? Am I so out of touch? No.. It’s the players who are wrong.” – Blizzard B o b b y s w o r l d

Honest question… does any Dev working on Diablo 4 actually hardcore Diablo fans?

The thing about us hardcore diablo fans… we can see a fellow fan a mile away. I can tell None of those Devs ever played a meaningful hour of any diablo game.

Requirement for future diablo game developers… at least 100+ hours on each diablo game.

Pvp = Extraction.

I feel like no one who played the beta actually bothered to read the tooltips associated with Strength, Intelligence, Dexterity, and Willpower. They do not function the same as they did in D3. While your base damage is amplified by a “primary” stat, the other three provide bonuses that shouldn’t simply be ignored. Whether it’s Overpower damage/chance, Critical Strikes, etc. There could very well be a reason for a Barb to be walking around with a bunch of Dexterity.

This isn’t “I’m an Int class so I stack Int in every place I can” simulator anymore.

Asmongold payed by Bxxxxxx

Okay, now release the bloopers from reading off the prompter.

Why’re people hating on this game so much? The trailer looked good to me

Why does Blizzard think
Affix = Hard
In all of their games?

Its a 6 minute video he turned it in to 20+ minutes video damn 😂

Asmon made respect for keeping the keyboard a-holes in check.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
me when it comes to hoping games have a different outcome…other then pvp endgame

“normal node” is boring af. just remove them. nobody cares abt +5 stat.

I agree I prefer the normal talking not just reading off a prompt and sure some of the dislikes are legit but feels like a lot are just bandwagoning on the dislikes. Ima wait to play it and see if its really shitty or not.

Preordered the game – check, secured my days off work when the game launches – check, built brand new PC for the game – check. Staring at the Play button – check. See you in Sanctuary fellow warriors…

DAE think the Hellgate looks like a GOATSE?

this looks boring af

Epic life time ban comment at start subscriber because of that. Hope game is good already pre purchased. I feel will be good for a few hours then onto next game.

I disagree with the premise that Diablo games should be infinitely playable. Let’s just create a game that has 70 levels and call it a day. You’re allowed a max XP or max hours at Max level and then it dies. When you beat it your name is added to a champions list and your character retires forever.

When you look at the people that developed the game, you start understanding the look of the characters.

I’m more excited for the last epoch game. Every single video on last epoch looks amazing and is being pressed and trimmed properly. Looking at d3/D4 looks like a sculpture of diarrhea with some diamonds in there. It’s fun but you have to sift through the poo first lol

Maybe they’ll do what Bungie does with Destiny 2. Releasing a little bit of new content every season, including new levels and quests. Then releasing large expansions once a year, with a full new map zone and campaign.

I got a very good idea for end game Diablo 4 and expansions for the game. Where this idea came from and why, I dont know. There is a lot of strangeness going on in my life. But the idea was to build a world under sanctuary for the next expansion pack, which is unlocked by finding keys and runes, and even can be unlocked by strange artifacts. This world is the staging area for demons and foes before entering sanctuary, and also places where treasures from heaven and the angels are hold by powerful monsters and demons. You can say they are being carried downwards towards catacombs and hell for storage and hiding. In this idea is also the ability to visit closed of areas in elite dungeons. There are sealed doors and portals which cant be activated before you find a rare or unique key in sanctuary or the staging area to open up these sealed doors inside the dungeons. The ideas and methods to open these doors or portals are endless. The only limit is your own fantasy or creativity. These dungeons inside dungeons may contain even more powerful dungeons longer down and can have several steps down. And the longer you venture down the harder it will be and the less light there will be. So you have to find light sources which can light up the dungeons before you venture down, and often you cant enter the dungeon before you are at a specefic strength or place on the Paragorn board. There can also be items needed for the specific dungeon. Like a sword from heaven or an angel to defeat some of the foes inside. And the ultimate rewards inside these super dungeons is super loot and glyphs. Etheral angel weapons and armor just pieces of art and some of them shine with beautiful auras. These weapons has been dragged down to be stored and hidden, and it needs a real hero to claim them. Another idea is to have clues on the map to hidden dungeons and end game content in the art and scenery below sanctuary. Ive seen some places windows and structure which lays underneth the main level. Why not open up these for players to climb down in new content expansions. If you see something on the map, you can be sure you can go there at some time in the verse. So to sum this up: Dungeons inside dungeons going further down towards hell, the staging area, which serves to hide powerful items stolen from heaven and sanctuary being guarded as they are dragged downwards, the necesity for unique keys, different light sources and items to enter these darker dungeons and create the staging area as a level under sanctuary to go further down towards the depts of hell. And portals which need rituals and pergaments to be opened. What do you think about these ideas?

Saying them dots +5 exist in PoE as well is an absolute disgrace. They do exist in PoE for a REASON. You HAVE to build around them in order to achieve desired target for your build, to meet the REQUIREMENTS of gem or item which is for your DESIRED build. THEY ARE NOT JUST CONNECTORS FOR A BIGGER DOT A BIT FURTHER FFS

Damn it looks boring even before coming out..
I tested to lv 25 .. I wanted to make a full frost mage and I was SUPER DISAPPOINTED..
I barely have any skills…most enhancements are SUPER boring… like 15% chance of chilling enemy.. WTF?
What’s your guys experience? I mean I don’t need to be PoE level but F#$$…

Imagine trying to pvp as a Barb in this game. You get kited the fuck out by sorcs, necros, and rogues.

The +5 shows us NOTHING about what the passive is. So it’s still a mystery and I like that. They keep letting us guess what it is.

Force PVP is a no-no. Force Bounty is a NO-NO. I just don’t want to PVP in a DIABLO game.

I like how the MMO new comers are genuinly confused about the endgame like “what are we even do in the endgame ?” than they proceed to push ahead with this endless respec thing so they make one character, they lvl it up, copy a build from a guide, and they never ever have to do it again. Well then, of course you’ll have nothing to do in the game after like 1-2 months 😀

Consider it: Diablo 2 had no endgame whatsoever, but huge replayability, and it’s widely regarded as a classi after 2 decades. Diablo 3 had an infinatelly scaling endgame but zero replayability, and it’s considered inferior in he community.

Glad to see I still have no reason to buy the game.

Thanks Asmon

Diablo is the poe tutorial

06:05 – Yeah. Back in that day regular Nephalem portals (grifts wherent a thing back then) required a key to open. You would obtain those keys from bounties which is the (only) other endgameactivity (that noone ever enjoyed doing). Eventually they made Nephalem portals free of charge.

Main reason am getting Diablo 4 is PvP. I was second best barbarianwhirlwind barbarian on US West. The Barbarian GSD was best but he had perfect health charms and used fade procs from treacheryaround 10k life!! haha. Whirlwind Berserkers. SPIN TO WIN :).

Guess what else gets harder…

So in other words, Chaos Dungeons from lost ark…. lol

god, in the video they just talk in emotion and imaginary and not straight nerd facts. Way to much hearthstone woke vibe.

5:20 let’s go they added beyond to Diablo 4

People are gonna be upset because they want this instead of +5 strength:
– Chance on hit for lightning bolt to strike all enemies.
– Chance on lightning bolt to spawn army of demons that explode
– chance on demon explode for earthquake to appear at explosion
– earthquakes pull in enemies from 80 yards, enemies take 500% more dmg
-enemies struck while affected by earthquake bleed.
-bleeding enemies aoe spread bleed when death.
– if 10 enemies are bleeding, spawn a blood golem
– blood golem chance on hit to spawn smaller blood golems

people won’t be pleased until they hit an enemy and their PC hovers from their GPUs fans

Agreed about PvP. I like occasional PvP when I CHOOSE to do so, not so much when it’s forced on me.

Reminder that it isn’t a Diablo game..

I want to know what secret lvl we getting I just hope it’s not a acid trip of one like diablo 3

Im already falling asleep in the first 5 mins. Diablo 4 at this point just makes me wanna sleep. Fuck that game. Bored. The most entertaining part of the whole video was Asmon saying “Say one fucking stupid thing about these humans and I perma ban you dumbass.” Good take. Fuck those jackals. Some people get a hard on at hating on people just to hate. Someone needs to teach them how dirt tastes.

I dunno what people are on about the “do it again” as if in PoE maps aren’t just going through zones again and again. Running through harder and harder ones as you progress. Isn’t that the whole point?

there will be 3 meta builds, an endless grind of the same 3 dungeons, the paragon board is bloated and boring

Your one strike rule is funny lol. Imagine being a 30 something dude always talking crap behind a screen than 1 day, your favorite streamer is like, “Welp, your Gone…No fat jokes today bud”. Being spanked by someone you look up to is probably more humiliating than someone you look down on.

i think the +5 / +10 nodes feel worse when they’re the same size on the board as the legendary nodes. Literally I think it’s a visual issue. In the PoE skill tree, the big ticket nodes are visually larger, more impactful on the screen.

I like pvp but I don’t want to lose my good gear or hardcore characters.

I have no problem with huge respec costs. What I have problem with is constant patches that invalidate stuff that lead you to throw characters away, because you don’t have the time to respec and find new items. This was the reason why I also quit POE.

asmon should go look at the paragon board leak so he can see why people are complaining about +5 stats

I feel like people are negative about that video because they didn’t really tells us anything new about the endgame. We got pretty much 0 details, absolutely nothing about seasons, hence why people are negative about it. I think if they did a 15 minute truncated playthrough video of the activities you’ll be doing at endgame, and showing more of an indepth look at the paragon board than showing 7 +5 stat nodes and 1 interesting node, the video would have been received a lot more positively.

lol now everyone has realized, just how ripped off they have been. No doubt it will be worth it 12 months after the initial release but that doesn’t make the price point of this game fair or worth it.

Can we wait to bitch till it’s released…. Holy shit.

They said bounties, I don’t wanna run bounties again…

But why are giga chad barbarians super lame 😩

I think the issue people have the paragon board isn’t the fact that we saw stat nodes but the fact that they hardly showed any non stat nodes. PoE for example hardly ever talks about the small stat nodes we usually get shown the actual nodes. Personally I think the paragon board will be fine, may take them a season or so to get it right though.

Finallly

3:16 As it should be. Glad Zack does this, cause honestly some people need a reality check.

People can be so toxic.
This is just a base that we will get in june, a good one I think which will become better and better with seasons and new mechanics going core, just like PoE does.
Devs will experiment and if players like it, it will become core. I don’t understand why people can be so negative. What I saw in the beta (for what a beta is) was extremely good.

1 minute and thirty seconds in and blizzard already systemlands on Diablo
“So here’s the system guys”
Bro can I just play the game straight through and choose to do it with my friends? Sprinkle pvp on that
Why do we need these weird systems

I dont like when they say that “every part of sanctuary is fullfilling and satisfying” (quote)…Isint it for us to decide if we’re satisfied or not?

EVERY arpg looter player wants to grind something for loot and power. The seasons will add new stuff and items to keep things fresh. Asmon keeps harping on not wanting to do the same thing over and over. Thats what a looter is. Yes seasons will add more variety but you will still be grinding the same activities. Thats what a looter is. It’s not WoW.

I can’t wait for my set pieces that give my main ability 10,000% more damage lol

I can both agree and disagree with Asmon. You don’t want to make respeccing ridiculously difficult, but I don’t like encouraging constantly changing builds, meta hopping, etc. Or swapping between a well-rounded solo build to a max DPS glass cannon based on the content you’re doing. That removes a large part of the decision tree associated with actually making choices. “Have your cake and eat it too” mentality feels lame.

Maybe the better solution is to have respeccing be free/cheap, but adding a game mechanic with a small benefit to players who are more decisive with their builds and willing to accept situational drawbacks rather than constantly metagaming.

“play your way”
*Unless your way includes completely solo without shared world and mmorpg features. Then no.

Let’s just be real, we’re all buying this game and we’re all grinding end game content even if it’s not that great 😊😅

diablo 4 end game is gona be shit 100%

What’s the point of saying the pros are a vocal minority when they have influence and act as our guides because they know the most? Thats like saying don’t listen to asmongold because he’s in the vocal minority: big streamers. Which is pretty much an irrelevant statement when you consider the influence you have. So it’s the same case here for the pros.

7:09 wow nice mustache.

Agreed on the +5 nodes on the tree not being a negative thing, but I also think it’s strange that they didn’t edit those out of the trailer, because like you said, PoE has them too, but during trailers and updates and stuff, they don’t show the travel nodes, they show the nodes with cool stuff. That’s not a flaw in the game, that’s just a flaw in trailer editing.

I 100% disagree with Asmon on comparing people’s feelings of the +stat nodes in D4 to how people feel about them in PoE. For one simple reason, +stat nodes in PoE has depth and uses to them. Namely being able to actually use skill gems, getting enough defense/evasion or damage, and there’s a ton of things that empower what stats will do. That’s why stat nodes in PoE aren’t bad but in D4 they are boring because main stat feels like a filler stat.

I think if Asmon wasn’t on the spot and given a moment to think about this, he would come to the same conclusion.

seems extra beneficial to have no respec cost in an arpg, that has us repeating dungeons and content in general so much. Let us mess around with builds as we grind a few dungeons. I want gear and skill sets I can switch between for world bosses, and dungeons, and etc.

I can buy that Blizzard has alot more planed for the endgame with content and build variety, but where is it then?! Surely they would show us atleast a few more examples than this?

“I hope we don’t have to do the same thing over and over”

*Me who’s almost maxed an OSRS account where I’ve spent hundreds of hours doing the same skills over and over*

…. Interesting

So Diablo 4 end game play is “taking care of werewolves that are rampaging through town”, wow. I can’t wait for the $70 game, plus battle pass and seasonal pass! This is AAA gaming!

This is so frustrating. It’s like the devs don’t even play games or know what fun is.

Well Andariel is making a return for sure. She was at 20 seconds in. Sick!!!!

I know the end game isn’t super fleshed out, but Last Epoch has 100s of viable end game builds right now and people STILL demand guides and only want to do the most meta builds.

Ultimately, both being able to change easily based on finding awesome gear AND forcing people to grind for the gear needed to fit a set in stone build are viable game design.

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Let’s talk p2w, Is buying a skill reset with real $$ p2w? Free respecting if you pay monthly sub 😂

David Brevik must be dying of cringe rn

Damn, you can see how pretty she would be if she wasn’t so fat…

is it me or does all videos from diablo 4 looks like diablo 3 grafik and quality … so low and boring

9:37 Spends 2k red PvP crystals for a pair of blue rarity gloves….. 10/10

Stop comparing this to any other game. Diablo stands alone. I’m a Diablo player and I’ve never played Poe or any other garbage rpg.

The end game is what’s going to define this game and unfortunately it seems like we are going to re live what happened to Diablo 3 and it will be 8 years after release until the endgame is good. I miss Champions of Norrath.

I don’t get why ppl are so butthurt about costing respec. Mmo and arpg games are suppose to be long and hard, requiring strategy.
Free respec removes replayability. Makes the game just shorter and boss fights easier.

If you want free respec, then why not just make it possible to change your class aswell at highest lvl to something else? Because you got no time to start a char over, or you just found an item perfect for that class.

I hate this argument where ppl keep comparing + str int dex in Diablo 4 to + str int dex in PoE.

1.
Some builds do damage based on stacking Str Int and/or Dex in PoE. Zero builds do that in Diablo 4.
2.
Every piece of armour in PoE has a required Str Dex and/or Int cost. Zero items in Diablo 4 has that.
3.
Str Int & Dex in PoE serves a noticeable purpose in PoE as far as Damage, Damage reduction, and Mana. Str Int & Dex serves literally no purpose in Diablo 4.
4.
Str Int & Dex on a PoE tree means you do not need Str Int or Dex on any item. Therefore making items far more customizable and far more impactful. Diablo 4 Str Int & Dex on the tree does literally nothing.

This is a stupid argument, a stupid comparison, and it’s an intellectually dishonest one at that.

Woke lol

Token diversity hires in full effect

These paragon points just seem like boring filler “oh lets just pump some more points into my main stat”

17:42 How fucking delusional do you have to be, to somehow pull anything other than their direct statement?
IT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT TO MAKE A NEW FUCKING CHARACTER, BECAUSE THE GOLD COSTS WILL BE SO HIGH.
How unfathomably fucking braindead do you have to be to attempt to skew this? This isn’t “misspoke”.

Love that I’m a YouTube viewer and not a twitch viewer. If I wanna call the girl in the video an orc, then I’m free to do so.

Lol play our way? I call bullshit!

PVP Shard Purification is just going to be a massive Gank fest. Super OP players, in groups, just WAITING for people to start purifying.

everything that they are saying at the beginning is just bs buzz words, like they arent even really saying anything

That video is so bad & cringe in so many ways that didn’t deserve not even a react…

God this game is awful for a $70-$100 price tag. If it was F2P, totally different story. But they’re charging that price tag because they know people will pay that much for the “Diablo” name brand. Not because they genuinely believe they have a $70-$100 quality product. Lol

In short, Diablo 3 yet agian but torment leves have been renamed world tiers and greater rift stones have been renamed nightmare sigils. Aside from that, you do the same shit over and over and over and over again. Still will be worth a buy when november sales come next year i guess.

“Why does PoE get a pass and Blizzard doesn’t.” Really? Because they are fucking Blizzard. Blizzard/Blizzard North made D1/2/3. They’ve made expansions, Diablo Immortal and now D4. That’s almost 30 years of ARPG knowledge. This game feels like a huge step backwards in terms of balance and QOL (UI, dungeon design, severe imbalance between classes, imprinting, monster density) and outsourced to a company that have a couple months of experience with the idea to rip off other ARPG ideas. This game looks entirely mediocre, especially for the price.

1:38 I think systems like that are bullshit, you just forcing your players to do the same content and waste their time 4 times, let people go directly into the max difficulty if they feel like. if they getting killed, well maybe they shoulnt be there and thats on them

Games were better before female devs.

Let’s talk about the real stuff we wanna see, Is there a 🐄 and 🦄 level, I wanna see both!

why they use such low level gameplay to showcase endgame is a mystery to me

The lighting in the blizz vid is horrid…

Devs are ai avatars? Idk 🤷‍♂️

Why are two girls telling me about video games? Like female football commentators.

saw is beta there is world tier up to 99

doing the same things over and over that’s diablo 3 look at how many seasons it’s had since launch and still brings people back every season. i don’t mind replayability.

POE is boring. And the characters are ugly.

You guys kill me with your respec cost lmfao – go kill more monsters and find greed shrines – and make a gat damn decision and stick with it

Omg people will always look up guide with or with respec cost.

There are only 2 end game things you can do; kill things, or collect things. Everything boils down to those 2 options. The trick is keeping people from realizing that.

we can’t be what we want if respacing is extremely expensive (will they make us pay real money for “quality of life” exp boosts??). I think they should put an endless hell dungeon as the ultimate endgame, it would be truly diabolical.

didnt expect asmongold to be anti free speech.

I really hope they create better skill synergy like they did in d2. Also, running bosses are fun. There should be higher drop rates for unique and legendary items from bosses

when asmon talked about the begigining of d3 he was talking about you needed to do bounties to get something like a regular rift key to do a neph rift then have a chance to get a gr key. something like that. it was so horrible.

i hope there is no forced pvp

I love the affirmative action hires

Agreed with respec. I dont want to make a new character to make another barbarian if i make a jew character its for a new class

I agreed with most of what you said. And what I disagree with isn’t nasty or anything mean so don’t take it that way please.

I do slightly disagree with the complaint about having to do things you don’t want to do in order to accomplish things you do want to do. This aspect is absolutely necessary in games to make the task you want to accomplish more fulfilling.

However, if doing the unwanted task becomes more necessary than any of the other tasks to accomplish said goal and those unwanted tasks are tediously repeated it can become more of a game killer than part of the reason why the end goal is so worth doing. For example, if I have to farm for hours to receive one “token” that allows me to access to desired goal for a simple 2 minute dungeon and this is the only content left to do, I’ll find another game at that point. Know what I mean? That unwanted task should be part of the path to the desired goal but it shouldn’t dominate the entire path to that goal

EverQuest had the perfect balance of this, sometimes you would farm for days for one key item and not get it, but those instances were very seldom and the end reward was beyond worth the frustration of the unwanted parts of the quest however those unwanted parts were always only a fraction of what needed to be done.

It’s a necessity having those unwanted parts but if that’s what the majority of the content is then the end goal isn’t worth it and the game becomes boring.

forced pvp makes more ppl engage in pvp so they can say ppl play pvp and it is viable etc etc. no forced pvp in my pve games thx. same with open pvp areas on the map. these areas suck when you are questing and then suddenly get gankedd lol.

I enjoy the story building and how some zones have special events or npc’s because of the location. That’s more exciting the DB3 where it’s just new enemies and a new background.

The nightmare sigils remind me of the keys you needed to craft to access New Worlds dungeons. wouldn’t surprise me if they walk back this feature and make it a toggle instead.

dude you banned me for saying “look at his stream” about 8 months ago….

My question is what is considered a cosmetic boots helmets armor weapon’s Jem’s sgeals. Because they said the only thing you can play real money is cosmetics. Sow can some one tell me sow what’s the point of playing the game if you can just pay real money for. I’m just curious.

3:15 Yeah, ban everyone calling out the fact that out of hundreds of employees, the only people they could get are soulsucking void creatures reading off a script without a smile at all, or the largest fucking fake one you can find. Well, I suppose walletsucking creatures. Because this breaks your psychotic schizophrenic delusional world view that everything is fine, and Diablo 4 is going to be great and nothing is wrong with it.

Great commentary as always, but big thumbs up for permaban reasoning as well.

I’m actually so happy about those Hatred zones, going to keep me in the game for a longer time for sure. The game otherwise will become so dry in end game. W Blizzard

Something I enjoyed about Diablo 3 was being to change through my abilities and runes constantly trying new things

D4 sucks

Good to see zach obeying Disney.

this paragon system is unnacceptable compared to PoE, because 99% of what is in this one are +5 stats, in PoE the +10sats are like 20% of the tree

what diablo needs is super hard raids/dungeons like Lost ark with mechanics instead of the usual hack and slash.

When penis rocket video game?

In poe every stat increase actually matters, for skill usage, for gear usage and to increase the character in a way that makes a difference..in d4 its just why have it at all? for some % increase in dmg wooow

have to agree with Asmondgold on the spenders, Just give every one pots to resort the Mana/energy ect. and allow you to pot to spend as well as a general regen for it

A perma ban over something so small is so stupid! Especially when there have been many times when Asmon himself has talked shit about the way someone looks in videos! You can hear it in his voice saying “yeah just look at him” followed by him talking some shot about how a person looked on said day! Yet he perma bans someone else for it as no excuse! I love you Asmongold but today I gotta say eff you bro!

Nightmare dungeons i’m concerned are just going to be the same as the normal dungeon, they jump bump the hp and damage and add some of those portals… I’m also very concerned about the pvp area, but i’m hoping the pvp will just be for cosmetics, but with games like final fantasy and even WoW, there are pvp only gear and cosmetics that look amazing and force people to do it anyway to get those items, and i’m hoping that’s not the case because you know there’s going to be 1 or 2 builds you just can’t kill in pvp areas.

12:02 You are comparing a skill tree with 1200nodes against a skilltree with like how much 50 to maximum 100 nodes? and still d4 manages to have more “+generic stat” nodes than PoE. How on earth is that even possible. And i agree its mind blowing to me, how people can still have these double standards. U have a small indie kickstarter company that was able to create a better game than the Multibillion dollar Goliath Blizzard. When blizzard changes smth people always dickride the copium train to the fullest and activating all their coping mechanisms “We havent seen endgame yet” “This is only level 25 beta” “They are going to fix those issues” “Next game or addon, is going to be better, trust me bro” How on earth do people still have faith in this shitshow called blizzard, QUIT ur abusive relationship with this company immediatly. On the other hand u have GGG, which always listen to feedback, have a clearcut vision how the game supposed to feel and play like, they have a strong presence(forums,reddit,twitter), they dont work against their prinicples, and the most important, they made the best arpg there is. So The double standard is present i agree asmon, but Blizzard is the one benefiting from this double standard, cuz people have it backwards, they shit on ggg constantly, and praise everything blizzard does, so yes u are right, but not in the way u thinking. Peace out everyone <3

They really need to add the overlay map to D4. Even the original diablo had it, how come D4 doesn’t?
Also the option for WASD movement would be nice for the people that want it. I don’t personally mind click to move but I know a lot of people prefer WASD so it would be better to have it as an option.

Why does she have a mustache.

They’ve walked back the respec coat.

I see red flags already! We can’t wait to get this into your hands and play it your way lol

LOOOL.

so……literally 100% CM in guild wars 2? Blizzard seems to have found the student to copy/paste from 😂😂

My problem with POE’s Skill tree is that “10% dmg” isn’t 10% increased dmg and +10 Stats mean almost nothing compared to Diablo where 10 vs 20 Dex is the difference of 50% dmg

Please asmon, and his minions, PLEASE don’t play D4. Please keep playing POE or WoW or whatever it is you kids play, and let me and the other adults have D4.

I think a lot of people don’t understand, complexity != depth. Casual games can have depth that appeals to hardcore players, but complexity will always make your game more niche.

Diablo 2 did not have respec at all at first, and that’s becouse it was a real RPG. Building your character in true Rpgs like D&d means it’s permanent. I guess we are past those days lol.

All Arpgs are doing the same thing over and over? No? Poe, Diablo 2, torchlight… you literally do the same things OVER and OVER. That’s why we play them hahah

D4 will be geat for the casual player… which is what blizzard is aiming at… Your right about alot of the dungeons it should be more than just getting keys and the respec cost needs to be minimal.

They will make more updates for more money and they will make the game better each time, its a great business model and thats how games are these days… at the end of the day they make the game for money… ex: battlepass and early access, if you dont like it dont pay for it, It is what it is.

It’s going to be like destiny 2

endgame that you will face more than anything else is…. OPEN DOOR with 3 keys. gather them and kill 100% all enemies. BYE

One thing I don’t like is that they don’t advertise d4 as an mmo, which it basically is.

The entire concept of “end game” is incredibly bizarre and incoherent. In order for a video game to not end, there have to be repetitive mechanics stretching out finite content into theoretical infinity. These repetitive mechanics are invariably tedious and inevitably boring, but the players act like these shortcomings are somehow the fault of the devs and not inherent to the very idea of an “end game”. It’s like people want games to last forever but don’t want them to have any of the features that allow them to last forever. In reality, well designed games END.

Over 10 years since D3 was released and the skill tree is just the D3 rune system copy + pasted into a tree with some bland passive nodes added to it. Dungeons are copy + paste. The endgame with what I’ve seen of the paragon board, doesn’t seem like something that will keep me engaged throughout multiple seasons. All the criticism Blizzard receives is justified.

wait… more damage per cc-ed enemy? soo reversed parthan defenders is not a paragon thing? ..great design… former skills become items… runes become skills enhancements.. that’s just renaming things..

Ive been waiting for this video for like 2 days now since this diablo video came out. No reason to watch it when I know I’m going to watch the Asmon version

The only endgame Blizzard has is money.

1:45 WHAT IS THAT THING?!?

Name one game ever where you’re not doing the same thing over and over.

sooo…reach level 50 to unlock the poe skilltree?

I can’t wait 😀

I wonder if the paragon map can be traded. If not then it will become a huge problem because with randomization there will be always undesired stats/traits or people will feel its not having enough of impact on their characters.

I’m excited for d4. I’ve been a big fan of the series since d1 and still get nostalgic about my first play through of d2. While I’ll probably never have that feeling of excitement and joy again, I’m still excited for it. Maybe I have high hopes and will be let down, but I have a feeling that even if it’s not when it first drops, eventually this will be a great game and I’ll most likely continue playing it for years to come. Say what you will about me, idgaf. You do you and I’ll keep living my life lol

Imagine a refill paragon board that shuffles all the stats and has a possibility of a demonic board that’s like legendary stats . Costs item like the altar in d3 and actually resets the paragon progression when you shuffle board.

people also dont realize you get 4-6 extra legendary effects from paragonboard.. add all legendary items to that and think about it.. thats alot

the builder and spender analogy is great, and blizzard has a hard-on for that style of content… for example when they gave paladins holy power… aka combo points… because EVERYTHING needed builders and spenders… whereas before everything paladin had felt like a spender.

Why they don’t simply add WASD movement into the game is beyond me. Unlike some things where people think adding something is easy and it isn’t, this literally is an easy add (they already essentially have it mapped for the Dpad on controllers). They’d probably have to change one line of code to have the WASD keys mirror the Dpad on a controller….

Last epoch is boring as hell. Monolith all day all day every day. Kill me now lol

We have more tolerant to POE on “+ stat” type of mechanic is because the game itself kept trying to do breakthrough in the arpg genre even though they have failed couple times.
Whereas you have D3 for many years adding cosmetics and zeros behind to keep their population up is why we have a different standard on judging the game.

People really want more than go kill get better loot, repeat. Smash or be smashed in pvp…. I don’t understand, you get loot to get more loot

02:44 No, In PoE u have travel nodes (stats) and than u have clusters, clusters consist of small nodes and a “notable” . Usually u wanna hit the Notable to be able to spec further into the masteries there, BUT and hear me out, BUT theres tons of builds where the small nodes inside a cluster, offer a stat that u very very rarely see anywhere else ingame. For example, The AoE cluster directly infront of inquisitor, has 2small nodes and a notable, But the small 2 nodes, offer a bigger bonus to Area of Effect than the “notable”. So no, very much not even in the same category as PoE sorry to dissappoint some ppl here.

Probably because there are lots of people who only played diablo and never touched POE? Where is the double standard here?

pvp is fuking only reason why ppl should play online games

Asmongold: “if u comment on someones appearance in the gam-movie- video whatever, you’re just gonna get permabanned”

xqc (reacting to You are not the father): man she is so big

Maybe this game will finally get me to stop playing Skyrim

Fancy paragon board system, still people will almost all use wtv maximizes damage.

Section of map turns red for corrupt loot, good luck with 80 other ppl already there killing everything in one shot.

I don’t expect too much for the endgame because obviously they want to stall out a bit for more content in patches and later expansions. But hey I just want to murk hoards of demons that’s all ask for. If combat is fun that’s all that matters to me

I hope each tier completely changes my life. Hope my expectations aren’t too high 😂😂

Treat ARPG same way you treat MMO – do not make people re-do same content at higher difficulty over and over- simply add new set of zones, island, continent etc every 6-12 months. Do not make the end game about farming 5 different systems of randomly generated dungeons with generic content

+5 +5 +5 lmao

I believe the different end game mode is just a pathway on how someone wants to spend their time to farm/obtain gear, giving you a choice to pick a path with activities you like . You like PvP you can farm some gear doing “fields of Hatred”, you like roaming the map exploration/ open world / side quests, toss in some “tree of whispers” quests” or “hell tides”, you like dungeons, have the sigils to make them harder for better gear. Its a nice approach maybe tie in an achievement, boss and/or hardcore cosmetic at the end of each pathway to give a player a goal for each thing.
Don’t wall rewards behind seasonal only or any other mode, not everyone likes seasonals, the hard reset, don’t create fomo situations… make playtime rewarding for each situation seasonal/non-seasonal, make the game challenging for the good rewards.

Poehave like 2k shit to choose from the paragon have like 10 things to choose from and 100 +5 stats… poe have jewels they got minor skills major skill… honestly d4 looks decent but i think it failed when they said its for casual and half the things aint no casual gonna play or understand

alot of the players choices are based on whats meta and what max roll says is meta and the paragons will have an optimal path… hahaha
End game is literally looks like a watered down d3 with extra steps 🤣🤣🤣

So if you comment on how they all look like SJW WOKE fat losers it’s a permanent ban? Okay got it.

But I just paid $100 for the early access. Lol

the problem with diablo pvp is that they are going to rebalance things based on pvp and ruin pve stuff in the process… just watch.

And why can’t someone say something about the big excited girl..?

by having respecc cost blizzard proved they do not understand, especially if it increases in cost every time. i dont play diablo games, but i find it very dumb to actively hinder an discourage players to try out new and different builds

Funny how huge the difference is between the presentation of Diablos endgame and Chris Wilsons voiceover about the next seasons content. PoE goes indepth about actual content and Diablo tries to tell us how epic the endgame is gonna be.

Never liked Blizzards typical “going to be epic”-speeches. Feels so empty.

I like when they talk about all end-game features zack is saying “I hope I dont have to do bounties”, “I hope I dont have to spam dungeons” or ” I hope pvp is not mandatory”. Dude thats all features of this game XD

I’ll say it again im salty as fuck to have to spend 70$, always pre-ordered all Diablo titles before, took vacation from work on launch … now (puke). POE is simply a sandbox tool at this point which has like 30 leagues of different mechanics in it, they take any genre and make it in a POE wrap. Diablo4 , being a new game … only thing they worried if this bitch runs atleast without memory dumps and new engine looks good. Endgame … 1 system … grind dungen = u having fun … nothing else , barebones crafting. To be fair all ARPGs at core are the same thing … running clicking buttons to kill shit … the creative ways to kill shit is separated into expansions … so POE having like 39 at this points … nothing can fuk with it. So D4 basically boils down to if u like the arcady zoom zoom for a month and -70$ .. make Blizz a shitton of $ and they will stroke themselves like they made a fkn geniune classic ;///

The keep mentioning overworld I wonder how big the hell and heavens maps are gonna be