Everyone Hates Diablo IV?
After the recent Diablo IV Beta we’ve seen tons of reviews with some fairly harsh criticisms of the game. Much of which is valid…but also probably won’t matter. Let’s dive into it. Thanks to Ridge for sponsoring today’s video. Head to https://ridge.com/force to save up to 40% off from now until March 26th.
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I quite like D4, planning to play it quite a lot this year. Will be diving into the game a lot more on our new channel, if you want more regular in depth coverage, check it out https://www.youtube.com/@Drop_Rate
i have never played diablo before and liked diablo 4. Probably im gona buy it.
Nope
Played the beta but it didn’t hook me, it’s missing that special something. Will play/replay Diablo 2 Resurrected until I get tired of it.
Diablo 3 is the worst game ever made, and the people invested in it are shitting on diablo 4
The level balancing thing sounds really silly because what’s the point of leveling up if everyone can just fight anything at any level from what I understand from what you said.
all these kids crying about build diversity IT WAS A BETA everything is not in the game. have not even seen the unique items in the game. calm down judge it after the game comes out
Its ironic that the things wow got hate for is what i love and not having it in other games is ruining them for me. Like PoEs exp loss on death ruins the game. Ive never made it to level cap because I refused to take part in the pay2win of path of exile. IMO even if your paying with virtual currency trading to get gear to make your build work is still pay2win. And if you dont follow a perfect build guide you are heavily punished. you can lose hours of exp progress by hitting a brick wall for you class and dying 5x to some 1 shot mechanic happening off screen. And thats with me heavily focusing on resistance and survivability stats.
diablo 4 is a random game like grimdown or torchlight tbh
not payng that much for this game, probably gonna play it only when it is on a very very low price just for couch fun with a friend
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“Everyone hates diablo 4”
Everyone: *crickets*
I actually don’t hate Diablo IV, I really liked it, however, there are a few issues, like Dodge cool down is a bit overkill, enemies are too fast and too many to have a cool down, character movement is sluggish and slow, combat movement is slow in comparison to the enemy, there are a few other minor things, over all the demo was fun and loved the game play,I know that was an older version and looking forward to its release!!!👍
I dislike d4 because it feels like they took d3, and opened up all the doors and said go outside into the world. you get the same repetitive loot, Doesn’t feel exciting when you get drops, and you only have like 5 things that drop… gold, some gems, armor, and some weapons. Very exciting… No stat allocations, only learning curve would be what skills you take for pvp. The game gives the vibe that each class will have 1 build and the rest of the skills wont even be touched because it will never keep up with the only good build. Lower level chars can come and clear your dungeon faster than you because they scale to their level. leveling up borderline feels worthless until you reach the next tier of skills.
I thoroughly enjoyed the beta, but the power scaling was very weird. Not consistent at all.
In full respect I feel people what criticize it are rather accustomed to other games and so rather nitpicking because D4 is not fully arpg but is mixed with MMO so it is kind of unique game and critique based on direct comparisons with PoE or D2 is bad as D4 try to be different game (let call it mmo-arpg 🐱 ) and imo it nails it. What this means that is somewhat less action, there is less enemies but they are stronger – seems good for me because enemies even could be stronger imo and very rarely I needed to use healing potion (playing solo on veteran ). There is less enemies on map so there is more room to breath than constantly fight (for example not linear dungeons – but you must most of the times penetrate left and right part of dungeon to activate something or find key – and going back to center gate give you few seconds of rest from constant fighting ). About dungeons – I don’t felt that dungeons are exactly the same (I heard similar complains in other games so it seems it is subjective matter what changes in dungeons make people feel that dungeons feel less similar ). Items – some people afraid of this because we don’t know for 100% how it will be but Bllizard already told that there will be less drops and be also rare items – so it rather should be good. Skill tree is imo is not issue but for bigger convenience it should be not vertical but horizontal to not need use scrolling up/down. It is normal at this stage that game is not properly balanced but this sooner or later will be addressed like in any game like this. If I was nitpicking I would say dynamic shadows was bugged but this can be disabled in options and I am not sure if story would be really great (yes it was dark and interesting but some stuff keep me wandering if it not lacks logic or is oversimplified ). Endgame – this is big question as we only know some things and not exactly how it will be but I have hope that they manage it. Vram leak (crashing when in options are high textures even 12gb vram cards ) I suppose will be fixed fast if it isn’t already but even this wasn’t big problem because game don’t looks much worse even on low textures.
“As you level up, you feel like you’re getting weaker.” This is the number one reason why I did not like this game.
Came here to down vote and leave.
Everyone I know, ie real gamers, really enjoyed the beta and are looking forward to launch day…
i wanted d4 to bring me back into games, i really did. it’s the biggest dissapointment ever.
It had a lot to live up to but didn’t deliver. One thing is they only brought the world boss out like 12 times over the two beta weekends and I never went in with enough people to beat it. The world felt empty the gameplay was repetitive but not in a fun way like D3.
I quite enjoyed what was available, so am looking forward to doing so for a good while.
Haters gonna hate i loved the beta on ps5 60fps in 4k amazing, minmaxers can go fuckthemself cya.
Holy click bait! Everyone…& I mean everyone, I’ve talked to about D4 – is raving about it. Didn’t watch your video, because can’t stand the crap click bait tactic (Asmongold tactic).
hates? I played the beta, thought it was 8.5-9/10 game and that was just the beta alone. I expect it to impress me more when full game is out.
The majority of people do not play POE through STEAM 😀
I generally disagreed with most of the feedback from these ARPG pundits, and their suggestions were mostly awful. A lot of them couldn’t even slap a decent Druid build together, it was so pathetic to watch. Most of them also missed the major point that D4 is an MMO Lite, not just an ARPG. Disregarding these muppets, I would say that the PLAYER feedback was overwhelmingly positive.
Upscaling is essential, and no you don’t feel weaker as you level, you feel a lot stronger.
I like the game. I hate that it’s an MMO. I got really sick to my stomach when I saw a side quest to “greet and cheer up the soldiers” and then again later when I had to “find ten ghoul liver”. The overworld is a laggy piece of shit, enemies spawn around you like bad monster closets, it’s basically devoid of anything to do other than follow the map for a dungeon entrance, other players wandering around MY game added nothing and cluttered up MY game experience, the events and bosses being trapped behind timers is horrendous feeling.
I didn’t want an MMO. I wanted more Diablo 3 combat but with a better written story and a slightly more cohesive end game experience other than raiding a rift. Instead I got World of Warcraft, but it’s smeared in blood. I won’t be playing on launch because I know for a fact their servers sucked on every single online only game they have ever made, their servers sucked during the beta, and they’ll suck on release. How can I give this anything other than 4/10, when only maybe half the game is good and the other half just sucks.
BlizzRdd employee
Stop falling into Blizzard’s bullshit.
diablo2, a game that came out literally 20 years ago, is objectively better in almost every single way. what’s up with that?
For me it was the copy and paste enemies from D3. Hell even one of the main bosses is also a butcher!?
They will not remake the game to add more depth. More hardcore elements. That would require them to remake the game. Cause you are talking about problems with the core gameplay. Which is design for mass mindless non gamers. Blizzard is after the normies. Not gamers.
I think we’ll all enjoy the game at start but i don’t dare to believe the endgame is gonna keep us long in the game. With such short ability variety and levling scaling it’s doubtful the game will last. Hope im wrong lol
Level and power scaling definitely was a let down, it wouldnt have been as much of a problem but the skill and dodge timers are too long for the pace of the fights. If I could use dodge at will that would make more sense with bosses in dungeons that can one shot you fairly easily. It seemed as if the scaling was geared towards multiple players rather than solo play.
I hated D3, so skipping D4 and the cell phone games.
As someone who is just getting into the series and is currently binging diablo 3 I am extremely excited after trying the beta. The hard-core diablo fans are like maybe 30% of the audience of the game.
Game is garbage people will play it a few weeks after launch and then it will be forgotten and abandoned just like D3 this game isn’t worth 20$ yet alone freaking 70$ when POE is better and free and POE2 is coming out soon if D4 wasn’t made by blizzard it would be DOA but the fanboys will defend whatever garbage this company puts out
This isn’t the world where there’s no competition and garbage like D3 does well because there’s literally no other game Last Epoch and POE are way better than D4 and it’s not even close and those games won’t be abandoned after 1 month unlike D4
Typical YouTuber! Clickbait thumbnail for Diablo 4 with a rating of 4/10, and then a 19-minute video consisting of 5 minutes of WoW, 5 minutes of POE, and 5 minutes of ads. In order to get everyone to click on my video, I deliberately mislead people with the title and rating, but I never actually explain why Diablo 4 is unplayable, because a 4/10 game is unplayable!! The dungeon isn’t good, the level scaling isn’t good, but is that really a reason to trash a game? It’s shameful!
A Diablo game without Crusader/Paladin XD
if you buy the game you will be buying a half asses game
it will be an unfinished product
there is too many problems with the game
and there is no way any company can redesign a game and fix and patch shit in 2 months
its impossible
diablo immortal actually has tons of content
d3 has lots
poe has 1000s going for it when it comes to content
and as far as leaked gameplay goes for latest builds the game is very lack lustre and does not satisfy at all
so like i said
this game is far from finished and needs atleast another year to be fixed up
I totallly agree. I’m one of those “not hardcore ARPG” people. I actively dislike POE, calling it Path of Economics because the most important dynamic int he game was the economy. I play D3 (and D2 and D1 before it) solo. All those “nice complexities of social interaction” that hardcore fans seem to like, I actively dislike. For me, the jury is still out on D4. What I played seemed like a prettier (and MUCH shinier, lol) version of D3. So the question in my mind is, “Would I pay the money for a graphics upgrade?”.
In terms of people new to the genre, I think the game is reasonably approachable. If they’d tone down the shine factor by about 3, it’d be very pretty. As always, I think they could do better differentiating irrevocable decisions from ones you can change. All games that I’ve ever played suffer from this. But overall, and coupled with Blizzard’s massive advertising budget and solid name recognition, I expect D4 to be a success, no matter what “hardcore ARPG fans” think.
I feel like you were paid by Blizzard
Just remake Diablo I and give us multiplayer.
Diablo IV is only Diablo in name. It is no longer an ARPG… it is now a looty-shooty MMO… just a lil less shooty and a lil more slashy. Diablo II is still the king of ARPG. Diablo IV… is just an utter disappointment.
game is meh nothing is new it is just aspects of d3 and lost ark mixed into a game. melee is garbage and class design seem extremely lazy. it still bewilders me that blizzard literally set the bar with d2 and nothing has reached its level of well done. d2 has its minor issues but LOD was just good period. D3 was a massive back step and D4 seems even worse. POE is close but overly complex class builds can be annoying but also adds to variety so thats a whatever.
this game is not evenr remotely close to being worth $70+ I highly doubt ill even purchase this at all and that kinda sucks. I want to like it but nothing is really drawing me in again especially at a $70+ price tag.
Judging by your own comments section this video looks a lot like desperate clickbait
I really don’t get the leveling scaling concern. At no point during my necro or sorc play-thru’s did I get this feeling. I think the issue people are seeing are undertuned melee classes, probably just exacerbated by the level scaling.
I liked it, I am worried about itemization, pretty much legendaries are just something to extract and trash it. And the repetitive dungeons, Simmons suck.. for Druid and necro,
But Sorc felt amazing. So let’s see how it goes
It looks like I’m looking to Batman vs Superman movie like stuff when I see this Diablo 4 stuff coming up right now… I hope a lot of improvements to the game from Blizzard to finally bring Diablo game back to live.
Diablo IV is uninteresting.
https://youtu.be/UzMBimoRSkY
Incredible world building and graphics but adopts an isometric perspective “just because the other ones did.”
Should have been 3rd Person camera (like WoW or ESO) That way all the grunt-filled storyline and long cinematics you endure only once would have been more dramatic. The game play would have been 100% more exciting.
Baldur’s Gate III will crush it this year. I believe Diablo IV (Sorry John and Gavian) is not bold enough. What we have now is a higher fidelity dial up modem.
Who actually gives a flying fuck what other people think about something if you enjoy it? When will we ever get to the point again that it doesn’t matter what others think? Just play the game for what it is or don’t. We don’t need to keep seeing videos talking about how some people are hating on something and how they should or shouldn’t.
i played many game like this from D1, D2 , D3 and many MMO , last epoch , lost ark , path of exile , ff14 , rappelz ..many more …but i always came back to diablo game style when i played D4 i pretty enjoyed it alot. yeah dungeon seems same style but the game ain’t release yet and normaly there a lvl 2 but in this game have a lock door instead of a lvl 2. i didn’t mind it really fun …. the only thing for me missing is the option to see which quest you completed and have map discover little by little instead of section by section. when trying to find hided quest or lilith by tracking where you went its a bit hard .. but the rest of the game is crazy good and i know i’ll stick to it for many years like i did with D1 – D2 – D3 that are still installed on my PC(D1-d2) – Xbox(d2r-d3) and switch(d2r-d3) . XD
I stopped playing most live service games, the only one I play still is csgo it cause of the gameplay. But I have spent more time thes past month making art, learning 3d, learning to shoot with my left foot, trying to sing. I even unused to most gaming channels. I have so many games that not many new games interest me anymore. I do have 300 gamea wishlisted on steam but most of them im probably not going to play.
Click bait,, everybody loves diablo IV I got withdraw I wanna play the game now
Idk about this frame that everyone or even most in the ARPG community hates D4 at all. Yeah there has been a fair bit of criticism like you point out. But even from those people most of them enjoyed the game and think it will at least be good. I think most of the ARPG creators really enjoyed themselves but the Kripparians of the bunch who are much more into more hardcore variants like POE rates the game a little lower than the averaged consensus.
And I don’t that popular means good. I’m sure there were mmos that were superior to wow in many ways. Blizzard is great at making huge games and had the name and resources to make it big and accessible.
All in all I think D4 will be a great experience and a pretty decent to good ARPG. Even if I agree with a lot of the criticisms. The game looks and feels so great to play that it boosts the experience by a lot, even with some suboptimal or “watered down” systems. And since everyone you know will be playing it most likely that will factor in as well.
Level scaling, non tradeable items, diablo 3 combat, skill tree stolen from poe, battlepasses, always on, no single player… So many reasons to hate this game my whole clan dropped d4 for last epoch.
Just give us world of warcraft
Good Good that was I wanted to hear. Like everyone hate it and like everyone say Diablo IV gonna flop very hard. Very good thing. its time Blizzard will be no more at this point. There glory state is over when they stop doing Starcraft game. Good news to see Diablo IV is already a failure like 3 month before its release
At least, 4 is better than 2 & 3,
less grinding, some QoL changes
The difference in complexity between WoW and Diablo is enormous, so WoW as a dumbed down MMO still had a ton of substance.
Diablo is brain dead gameplay, so dumbing that down leaves almost nothing
Characters are ugly as frickin hell. Someboody wake me up and tell me the characters don’t really look like this. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone or something. Seriously these character designs are straight trash.
The druid really REALLY showed the cracks with the game and the itemization. They basically ripped the same HORRIBLE ideas that D3 had and put that into D4. They made the class skill tree AWFUL and in order to ‘fix’ it, you need to get the correct legendaries. WHY THE FUCK did they bring back the same dogshit legendary ‘set’ items into the game again???? Why are we going down this road again?
Funny you have to relate to click bate titles rather than good content.
This is bullshit, the game is good!
you look like a Diablo
i played the beta and the classes were incredible , the level system was great , very similar to assassins creed Odyssey which i like , the loot is the same as previous diablo games! I like how they utilize the need to take on unique bosses in different areas of the world with other people but im not a fan of the loot system , other people can take your loot if an item drops , if its really good and ur class , they are free to take to all classes , i dont exactly know it works all the way around but if its like that , it could use some work , maybe a patch can fix that and take care of the loot system , other than that the game seems fine , i noticed the horse glitch when the guy gets on the horse in town before it says “Welcome to the Beta!” , He gets on the horse backwards but rides it forwards , that can use a fix…
Nice click bait 😂
Every “hardcore” fan of a genre was once a casual fan of the genre and what I’m hearing is this game won’t make casual fans into new hardcore fans.
I liked the mix between old and new ideas. I only played druid though. Trying to do werebear against elites or bosses was very arduous. It was very disappointing to struggle against a tough enemy for another character that is lower level to almost one shot it. And the poison mechanic is awful, especially since movement was slow and dodging had a 5 second recharge. I absolutely hated that. On that, I don’t like the cool downs on skills.
Other than that it was generally really fun.
Wait wait wait…..you were a freshman in college when WoW came out? You look 30…lmfao wtf. Nah u lyin
Everyone else seems to love it..
Played the beta, game was absolutely amazing lmao… Done research into what they’re doing with their live service and things coming and it’s got a very bright future. June 2nd can’t get here quick enough tbh.
Good video, going over all the different takes and then adding your own meta take ontop of that, looking forward to the D4 content
Unless youre a technical player, all of these “issues” are negligible. You’d have to spreadsheet most of these technicalities or actively compare multiple charcter bulids both personal and sampled at a developer level and the masses dont do that at all.
I find it interesting that no one ever provides (with anywhere near the same details as the scrutiny) solutions of models that work. I think if THAT where the culture of content creators there would be a shift in product quality.
Everyone I know who played, including myself – loved it
I didn’t get to play much as it kept crashing. There was massive memory leaks and even brought my graphics card up to temps that made me question the quality of devs they hired. 36gb of ram and had page file set to 18gb, I had to up the page file to unlimited, which stopped the crashing but not the random disconnects or crashes after portalling back to town, the throttling that occurred as my card reach concerning temps. At least my cpu hovered at 53 Celsius and didn’t spike.
I won’t be playing when it is release and will sit back and hope they patch those issues. Till then I’ll go back to steam and gamepass library.
I played the beta and I loved it!! I went in skeptical but was pleasantly suprised. It feels like it still needs much improvement, but the beta was limited. I got all characters to level 25, both weekends, farmed most of their legendaries, tried their metas, farmed Ashava, etc. Still found it all great and fun playthrough as a tease. The big issue I have with the beta is they allowed Necro, Sorc and Rogue to use their specializations (Book of the Dead, Enchantments and Rogue Combo/Inner Sight) yet did not allow us to try Barb and Druid specials (Expertise Quest and Spirit Boon Quest)! How can we test out 2 nerfed characters against 3 un-nerfed chars? Makes no sense at all! Other than that, hyped for D4 release in July!
Everyone doesn’t hate d4, people waited in a que for over an hour to play. It’s people like this that complain and complain til the game industry changes the game these people didn’t make a game like blizzard has for years. Their entitled little biothes their parents should have raised them better. To complain about a game that’s not exactly how you want it to be lol put the controller 🎮 down get a girlfriend and a life.
Streamers and their echochamber who claim that the Druid needs to be just as OP as Necro and Sorc should uninstall the game and f*ck off. THe fun you have clearing dungeons without any gear blindfolded while doing math equations, yeah so much fun Sorc and Necro. Blizzard again made a horrible game lol. PD2 for me to continue, f*ck this game, no challenge at all.
diablo 4 is the same exact game as d3. The same rune system, the same boring quests, the same easy monsters, the same shitty scaling to force artificial difficulty. Refunded my copy after playing the beta. PoE 2 looking really good right now. History’s gonna repeat itself.
No they don’t. But if streamers say so it must be true.
*Too many effects?* Anyone else think there’s too much going on during battles to fully appreciate? Particularly in parties.
I played the beta with 3 friends and even with very low level characters the screen was just awash with lighting effects. Hard to appreciate my own character or individual enemies.
Seems to be a trend in the Diablo series. Each sequel lights up your screen 50% more!!
No one hates number 4? Unless they are new players. All the old players love it. I’ve been playing diablo since the 4rd one came out and beat the old ones and grinded and it’s an amazing game. I think people just don’t understand what beta means
The game is very vanilla and marketed to a wider audience. It works just look at World of Warcraft. All the other “real” MMO’s are gone and dead while Blizzard is still making bank off their vanilla style games. Not everyone wants to micro that hard they just want “dumbed down” fun and that is what Blizzard is giving.
I hate that the game looks like D3, nothing left of the visual style of D2 and D1, is it because of the chinese market again?
Beign an old-time D2 fan i must say i didn’t like what i felt during the open beta. I’ve put a lot of thought into why exatly. My criticism can be divided in two categories: 1) things that can be fixed and probably will be; 2) things that can be fixed but probably won’t be
While the problems of first category are well talked about in the community – balance problems, level scaling between hero and mobs and so on, i cant find so much talking about the second category, which i found very much ruining the classic diablo experience for me, so here it goes:
1) Mobs proportions. D2 seemed way more restrained when it comes to the size of the monsters relative to the hero – the big ones were much rarer, and the biggest (Duriel and other act bosses) were not so big in comparison to those of D4. These gigantic mobs create the overall cartoony feeling.
2) i can’t feel any “weight” to the mobs. They dont feel like something made of bone, flesh and armor, they feel more like balloons that i pop by clicking on them once of twice. One of the first big ones i encountered was a giant bear that was bigger than Duriel from d2, and i killed him just by few clicks. Ridiculous
3) field of view and character size on screen. The camera is way to close to the hero. I can’t see normally up and down, it feels like i’m wearing a bucket on my head and can see only what’s under my feet.
4) terrible UI, the screen is overloaded by chunks of it – why do i need to see mob health above the mob as well as at the top of the screen? Why do i need to see the those damage numbers popping out of every hit? i can intuitively understand my damage by seeing the mob health bar dropping. I want to see the clear picture of battle, with hints that are represented not by text and tooltips, but by visual hints in the special effects.
I love D4, cant wait for it too launch.
Its awesome for us casual gamers:D
You were troolling with your comments about Asmongold, right? I just visited his channel, looks like he mostly reacts to other people’s content? Extremly obnoxious, nagtive guy.
“Predictable” unlike what? D2 maps have like 3-4 variations that are easy to tell, d3 has no map variations and everything is the same every time, and in PoE maps are a bit varied other then end goals being in the exact same place every time. PoE especially is literally just hold right click until entire map is dead. Dont get me wrong, i love all 3 games, im just saying that calling the gameplay loop predictable is extremely hypocritical.
ok you dont care about diablo so dont cover it
I am more looking to PEO2 than D4.
I’m not a huge fan of the itemisation. I was surprised how little I enjoyed the barbarian compared to the rogue which was a blast. I’ll probably main lazy necro to start, but I’ll max every class as usual. Dungeons felt empty and samey. Balance will get cleaned up I imagine. I’m excited.
Just another click bait YouTuber. No one said this game was bad!
It felt more like a mobile game to me. Every single dungeon was repetitive. Item drops were boring and weapons were mostly unusable for my character. (Played a sorcerer, but got weapons I couldn’t use)
I didn’t like the fact that you couldn’t telport back to your location after breaking down gear either. I found myself getting bored with the game and I wasn’t even grinding, just trying to complete basic quests.
It’s a stunning game can’t wait to play 🫡
D4 MMO hack and lag 😂
1:41 there are just a few people I hate in Youtube, and Asmongold is one of them, he’s such a cynical jackass, I can’t stand him
blizzard shill
Meh, I’ve played all the Diablo games. I played the open beta to level 20 and had fun. It’s a beta. I’ll judge it when it come out.
this was an old beta lol. blizzard said this beta was for just a stress test. People need to calm down!! The QUEUE was only on friday lol and if there was a queue on saturday or sunday it was under 5 min.
I think the reason Blizzard is making these choices is because they don’t need to cannibalize their two ends of the ARPG market. Diablo Immortal and D2 (original and remastered) cover both ends of the casual to hardcore market. They really are aiming for that sweet spot in the middle.
I heard devs might invite you YouTube bums who are out here trying to ruin the game for everyone else by complaining you can’t one shot everything “because I feel weaker waaa waaa waaa”. How about y’all talk about important things like balancing the builds better or added something simple like more body type options so we all don’t look like the same male rogue. Idk just simple things.. leave the gameplay ALONE.
For me, pvp is the most important aspect, i know that’s not the main thing in an ARPG, but if Diablo 4 has good pvp, i don’t care about anything else.
My new hobby is hitting “do not recommend this channel” to anyone who uses asinine clickbait thumbnails that appear in my feed. Congrats on being today’s 😊
I thought it was awesome. Brought me back to the original Diablo which I loved. Not much of a fan of D2 and D3. I cant wait to play a lot of it.
I never played Diablo, and I was addicted. Enemies being adjusted to your lvl might be problematic. ppl said defensive maneuvers are at its best ever but you can’t kill a boss with “1000 cuts” so I’m confused to what they meant
This should be named poe veterans dislike diablo 4
Gunna say, before listening, I have yet to see a bad review. I loved the beta test myself. Keep trying to log in hoping that it is secretly back up…
Everything these guys are saying it’s great to know but isn’t that the point of a beta to push this out so that there can be upgrades and improvements
You have hardcore Diablo players that have been playing it since the first installment coming through a bit jaded. Maybe it’s burnout. I thought it was okay but. It’s not as dynamic or action packed as it needed to be in the beta to capture the masses but then again… Diablo isn’t for the masses if I’m being honest.
Man lying
What are talking about ? The majority of the beta reviews were really positive.
I’ve never played any diablo game until this weekend. Can’t really compare it to the older Diablo games but I couldn’t stop playing, it was reaally good and I enjoyed the free beta 😀 but I won’t pay 80€ for a game wtf
I’ve played all of the Diablo games (I thru III) to completion on multiple hardness levels. Diablo IV sucked to me. It was boring. It was zoomed in too close to the player as compared to Diablo III. And YES — the further I progressed, the more difficult it became even when going back to earlier sections of the game. It is not ready. Also, when recrafting some of your weapons, it doesn’t even tell you what the possible random attributes are, nor do you know if your particular existing attribute is already a high or low value. This looks sort of fine, but the game play really was horrible. It did not always recognize my keystrokes and compared to D2 & D3 I found combat to be laggy. OH, and nearly every single time I left town the game rubber banded me back to the edge as soon as I moved about half a screen down the trail. I played Friday evening and Saturday. On Sunday, it kept kicking me out (along with a couple times of Saturday too). Yeah, I lost interest in it rather quickly which surprises me as I have been looking forward to D4 for several years now! I hope they delay and fix before the official release. I doubt this though because Blizzard is not the Blizzard of yester year and is instead actually Tencent –and they are just focused on making a buck instead of providing a great game and player experience.
A streamlined version of PoE, Last Epoch, Grim Dawn, etc. already exists, it’s called… Diablo 3. I don’t see the point of D4 if we’re just reskinning D3.
I could have told you all it would suck.
do you have a source of people hating wow in 2004? People hating wow in 2004 were like 2 but people hating d4 is a decent amount. What are you even on about.
DAOC freeshard servers are still better than WoW.
After playing the beta, it doesn’t feel like a $70 game, especially with Path of Exile still sitting there.
Diablo 4 is 11 from 10, your video is 0 from 10, your sponsor this shit ridge is -1 from 10
I played both BETA weekends and already pre ordered it I enjoyed it the length of the dungeons and the Graphics were Awesome Looking forward for the Full Game Happy gaming Everyone.
Force, I have to say. I agree with your meta-take ENTIRELY. Imho blizzard is great at creating consolidated, polished experiences, that as a result can feel simplified.
Diablo is like terminator, 1 was bad quality graphics but a fun time .2 was amazing and all we want is a expansion of 2 that doesn’t try and change everything but continues with slightly small changes .
Only people who played druid think it sucked (cause druid was under powered). Game was good so far and I also plan on playing the hell out of it…
I hope everyone hates it. Queues won’t be as long.
More people are hyped for poe2 than d4.
Thank god you said my thoughts – I’m sick of hearing people complain about almost everything about the game.. the dungeons suck! The items suck! This sucks! it all sucks! It needs improvement! Jesus it just sounds like these people don’t like dungeon crawlers end of. It’s like it’s ‘cool’ for people to hate. THIS is a problem oh and THIS wasn’t good oh and THIS ?! what were they thinking. I’m not saying you can’t have a negative opinion of course you can, but everyone in my circle had a great time playing it and are so hyped for it. Hearing negative opinions is valid and essential for game improvement but… I dunno.. maybe it’s because I don’t have a hardcore ARPG background..
I’m not saying that diablo IV couldn’t be improved – I had my issues with it as well. But jeez I LOVED the open beta! They did so many things right. Returning to the darker routes of D2, I tried all the classes and they were all fun – even barbarian and I Normally hate that class but even I enjoyed it. The art style is BEAUTIFUL. Holy crap the number of times I just stopped walking to admire the views – both inside and out of dungeons. The story is compelling – I am so excited to do the next two acts.
Yes okay druid is underbalanced but you know what, it was still my favourite class. I hope it gets some love, I really do, and that necros get a nerf.. but the aesthetic and feel of the druid is very well done in terms of the RPG aspect of it. It was exactly what I was hoping for. Plus okay druid seems underbalanced but don’t forget we only got to level 25. Druids also don’t get their animal spirit boons yet.. I mean okay they should still be a bit stronger, and I agree, I hate the fact spirit doesn’t passively regen, but in the grand scheme of things it’s difficult to judge when you can’t level being that, because if you could it puts it into a whole different perspective.
Personally I never had an issue with dungeon repetitiveness… it’s a DUNGEON crawler game there are only so many ways to make a damn dungeon, jesus, what are people expecting. HAVING said that.. I did see a couple of ‘copy and paste’ rooms in dungeons, that I do think is a bit lazy. Especially when the furniture and items inside are also copy-paste – fortunately this wasn’t a big enough issue for me to not have fun however and it wasn’t that obvious but yes that was a bit lazy. Nevertheless I don’t really care what shape the dungeon is.. because dungeons are ultimately the same idea – you go in, you kill, you do the objective. I want fun combat – Check. I want lovely artwork – Check. I want interesting stories – Check the side quests were also very fun to do and really added to the world. I really don’t care if I have to go right or left or walk in a circle or go up or down stairs. I don’t care at all what shape the dungeon is – they still felt pretty damn different to me lol. And if you need to farm a dungeon for any reason – then you need to farm a dungeon. Either you’re going to find that repetitive or not the dungeon design isn’t going to change much about that..
Can’t take what you say seriously when you end the video saying I’m going to be making a new channel specifically for d4 coverage😂😅
It doesn’t matter to 99% of the players.. unfortunately this is mostly content creators going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NEW GAME ISNT LIKE THE GAME I LIKE.. gimme views. Mrllama was by far the worst at this and always has been. He is a Diablo2 boomer who hates change and anything new. And I do enjoy most of his content.. but fuck he was bad to listen to about D4
Diablo 4 better than diablo 3. Diablo 3 is super borring
what a bad video
Everyone: meaning people that spend 100 hours in a couple of days playing a beta. Me as a casual player, and as 90% of the player base… It’s perfect
The # you used for concurrent players on PoE isn’t accurate, although the true number is still smaller than blizz games.
The steam client is not used by a big chunk of PoE players because for many it was redownloading the entire game on patches, crashing, failing to update, etc… There were many issues that pushed people off of steam for PoE.
I think the concurrent players for the most popular realm was 270k in 2022 as per a post on the PoE forums from GGG. So the total is likely over 300k, not 150k.
Havent seen anyone hate diablo 4
I going play this game only for the story if it’s good… and buy when the sale is -60% ^^
delusional and objectively bad take
WoW was hated when it came out? LOL
delete your channel you have literally zero idea wtf you’re talking about
It’s funny that I tried the beta just to hate the game because I found Diablo 3 really boring. But instead I really liked it so far. 😄
no one hates it you are clickbait *ignored
Glad i never played this garbage like diablo 4 is.
They should delay the game for another year.
Trash. I’ll stick to my yearly Belzebub and MedianXL drug fixes.
Heeey a voice of reason in a sea of middle aged, self proclaimed professional arpg experts 😛
I have seen more honest, pragmatic, levelheaded opinions from the average variety gaming youtubers that those sadfaced “legends” and “pillars” of arpg communities.
Also you have to love the arrogance of dude like Kripparian when he said he is not planing to do any world firsts in d4 and therefore d4 will have no worth world firsts cuz he will not be taking part in them.
Can anyone tell me, if you pre-order, do you have access now and up until release or just when it realises?
Just some thoughts (that I’m sure people will roast, but whatever. I’ve been playing video games since BEFORE the Arari 2600, and as a “OG” gamer, these thoughts are based on my own experience. YMMV):
1. It was an early build preview in Act I of a larger game.
2. Not everyone WANTS a D2 clone. We already have enough D2-like games. D2 wasn’t perfect, and just because people love it doesn’t mean Blizzard needs to keep remaking it.
3. Everyone I know actually enjoyed the game FAR MORE than they did D3 in the Beta then.
4. I thoroughly enjoyed the call-backs to the earlier Diablo games, and although you think it’s not replayable, for me and my family/friends, we all agree that this game really will fit the bill for time-waster.
5. I don’t need it to be revolutionary; I just need it to be fun and well thought out and executed. My wife said, “This game is a love letter to Diablo and its fans.” I agree.
Way overpriced!!
The thing that bothered me the most in the beta was how much D4 feels like an mmorpg. I used to play gw2 and then poe afterwards and it made me realize how much i dislike so many things about gw2 and mmos in general. And blizzard is now introducing exactly these things that i hate into their ARPG.
– killing mobs feels meaningless because the main way to get xp and loot are objectives like quests, events or dungeons.
– leveling up and gearing feels meaningless because the mobs level up with you and even the best rare item that you can get at lvl 15 will be worse than any lvl 25 rare.
– your dps on world bosses is meaningless because you can just get carried by the people around you. You can stand around and occasionally autoattack and succeed or try your absolute hardest with a well geared character and fail. Your contribution is so tiny that it barely makes a difference.
– There is a lot of downtime where you just walk around. The towns are huge so it takes way too long to go from your stash to an NPC and in D4 there aren’t even waypoints next to events and dungeons so even more walking. And the fact that killing mobs on the way doesn’t give much loot/xp because all loot/xp comes from completing objectives makes this even worse.
d4 will be good midseason in POE
I fucking looooooved the beta. Even with the annoying rubber banding and some disconnects. NO MORE QUEUES! Sure it needs improvements here and there, but seems FAKE RAGE Youtubers are the norm. Negativity gets them views right? Bitches.
That something fresh, especially your favorite IP, copium hype.
Diablo 4 can be summarized with a Gordon Ramsey analogy. Why the fuck are you making a grill cheese when you have all these incredible ingredients. It’s clear as day that not much innovation is coming for Diablo 4. The beta made me just reinstall Lost Ark. Blizzard is just focused on monetization more than the core gameplay itself. The writings on the wall.
I don’t know what’s sadder, how you are so deep down your blizzard simpign hole that you are bringing WoW as a comparision to D4, despite both game having literally nothing in comon (both from the gameplay standpoint but also from a mechanical innovation standpoint) and aren’t developed by the same company.
Today’s blizzard is NOT the company that brought you WoW or diablo 2. Today’s blizzard is the company that brought you Diablo Immortal.
“See all these people that actually know wtf they are talking about? See how they have a lot of very valid complaints? Well yeah, but I dun care, I’m still HYPE dude! I remember when I was hyped for WoW and people were hatin dude! Dey WonG!”
8:44 “But let me cover my ass because I’m also a fens sitter than don’t want to be caught with my pants down, you see that whold 20 minute video I’m making to handwave people concern and valid points about D4? Well actually it’s not here to handwave them at all! Naaaah.”
Ok dude. Time to unsub I guess.
But I’m sure you will make a big boy video once the game is out, turned out to be a shallow piece of shit it’s obviously going to be to shit on the game for view, and then you’ll keep milking view making a dozen videos about the inevitable Diablo Immortal style milking this game will get.
The reason D4 is trash is the forced mmo components. It completely ruins the game.
I got a feeling diablo 4 is going to be spoiled with monetization hope iam wrong
I enjoyed the beta a lot. But for a 70 euros game, thinking that in 3 months will be out…and so annoying things happening? I’m just suspicious if they would be able to solve these issues like lagg, mele class problems, Lack in character customization, and so on ..like 4/10 might be too low, but not at all even an 8/10. Maybe with lower price…. Difficult decision!
It’s more simple and nothing really new. Diablo 3 has more to offer and that isn’t saying much.
I’ve never heard of people complaining tbh, love the Beta
I have been playing diablo since the original came out in ’96. While i do agree the mission structure and dungeon layouts need more variety, i dont understand the hate. I dont understand why people (a lot of diablo 2 fans) are upset that its “gone mmo”. Diablo 2 was online multiplayer, it was massive, semi open. I enjoyed the D4 betas. I am sad to go 2 months without it. Lol. I think it will be awesome no matter what the haters say. I pretty much think every game gets review bombed for the sake of clicks
Only managed to get through 7min of the review before stopping. Force Gaming’s mentality is the reason why supposed-AAA companies can get away with mediocre crap. Acti-blizz has been living off the hype from Blizzard North’s products. Wow really is inferior compared to the MMOs then (FF11online for example). D3 pales in comparison to D2 or PoE. D4 sucks because of its cheesy storyline, shallow skill system and lacklustre itemization/crafting. No amount of nostalgia or shilling, like what this video is attempting, is going to make up for it.
I’ve been playing games for over 30 years and when I booted up and played Diablo 4 during the open beta, know what really stood out to me? That I was having fun. Legitimate, unadulterated fun. I wasn’t looking up guides or anything else, but I was just moving through the game enjoying myself. It wasn’t perfect but it encapsulated that same feeling I had when I played WoW, FFXI, Diablo and Diablo 2. Gaming is my hobby, but I would never consider myself hardcore and I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment, Blizzard is making a game that tries to appeal to the masses and there’s really nothing wrong with that.
Here is what I think of people (casual or hardcore streamer) with their opinions of D4. I could give any less f’s. I play games for my enjoyment. I enjoyed the nostalgia of D2, but it’s endgame is crap. D3 is alright, I think their seasons are pretty cool.
Level scaling doesn’t bother me much. I hate out leveling an area, but still having to progress though the story, getting 2 xp per kill. I don’t really care if a lower level can kill stuff faster than me, their game is not my focus, my fun is.
Sure, dungeons can get repetitive, but if the base dungeons are any indication, nightmare dungeons will be awesome.
Character balance, it’s level 25. You don’t balance a game around level 25, you balance it around a fully leveled character. I don’t understand this complaint.
Boss mechanics, it’s an ARPG where the community is mostly solo players. You can give a boss ridiculous mechanics and expect it to be downed by a hodge podge of players not grouped, with no tanks or healers.
Open World. IT’s not really an open world, it’s just a larger one, and other players are in it. I don’t mind seeing other players out in the world. I would enjoy if they instanced towns though, just for immersions sake.
MMO aspect. Really it’s MMO-lite. I stopped playing MMO’s, I enjoy single player games more. Quit WoW, partially into Shadowlands, and never looked back. I’m fine with MMO-lite, as long as I can complete 99% of the game solo. IF they start making more MMO like content, I will stop playing.
Finally. Saying it’s good or bad is a moot point. We only got to play a sliver of the game, and the beta was more abut large scale testing than anything else. Login servers in particular on console had a major hit to them. I was queued for over 24hours the first weekend before it got fixed. Large scale testing of bugs is essential. You can’t judge a game based on a beta test. So I take no one opinion seriously.
force gaming can you name one time streamers helped the average player .
streamers screw up every single game they touch with there opinions just look at destiny. every single gun nerfed because of PVP. fallout 76. cod every game past mw3 . hell mw2 they probably cried because it was easy to get Battle pass tokens so they nerfed that.
Diablo 4 was the truth. Tf is this?
you gotta remember you and streamers usually screw up more games for average players than do good.
I like the game itself but the lag and DC are really bad. I have really good internet and a decent pc. I even tried cranking everything down to low but it still didn’t help.
Why this shit title
Everybody I talked to and watched on Twitch was positive
Seeing an inclusion of a battlepass tells you all you need to know about the current state of blizzard. They have completed shifted to trying to net casual gamers which honestly feels like the direction they have headed since hearthstone came out. The pendulum has just swung really hard in that direction at this point. This is probably a good choice financially, just not a good one for people that like good games. I guess one can hope that they utilize all their battlepass money to pump put new content and character classes, but I’d rather just have them drop expansions that came alongside characters so I knew what content I was getting. I’m sure all of the younger generation will love having different colored spell effects and armor/ weapon transmogs and whatever other garbage is in the battlepass, I would personally rather have actual content, but to each their own. Overall D4 gameplay feels fine, but I would be hard pressed to say that the D4 beta was better than where diablo 3 currently stands with the exception being the graphics/ art direction of D4 being superior. Prettiness doesn’t really make or break an ARPG though, and I am skeptical that d4 gets anywhere near the level of ARPG quality that grim dawn, poe, or titan quest, or even torchlight 1 and 2 have for me, especially considering it will have no offline play capacity, no modding, and if D3 is any indicator few and far between content updates.
Not everyone hates d4
It will always get compared to Diablo 2. Its not the same game. But almost everyone will try to benchmark it. And well this is not even close to Diablo 2.
Was fun to play. Will play it until Throne and Liberty releases.
Beta?
What everyone hates ? Lol story of the world everybody is a hater ? I hate that u hate that I hate your hatred
It needs some character balance, other than that the game is awesome, and dont use word EVERYONE for your bait, no offence
Eh, maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. But a lot of the ‘features’ you enjoy are ones I absolutely loathe. Let’s talk about the shared world. I want to play a video game to chill and relax after dealing with idiots and morons at work. I do *not* want to deal with idiots and morons while trying to de-stress from having to deal with idiots and morons. Nor do I want to get a ton of mailbox dancers, spambots, and other BS a shared world inevitably draws to it. I despise and loathe the MMO genre because I don’t like dealing with randos. I don’t want more of that in my ARPG, thanks.
Looks like I’ll stick to Grim Dawn.
I enjoyed it enough to finally pre purchase.
nope doesnt matter at all to me. no lifed beta and had a complete blast, love the game
It will be a GREAT game!
Click bait
TLDR
– I had “fun” but too many things is either lazy or a bit on the stale side, its kind of like knowing you can pull an A but you choose to do C+ cuz its way less effort, makes no sense to me in terms of taking pride in your work, and it also doesnt make sense on a buisness level, here is why the way i see it.
You either:
A) Build a quick game with bare minimum, capitalize quick cash, and hurt your reputation (people forgets in seconds anyways). That is the way to go for the entire industry if we all lower our quality, people will think this is the best we can do and have tried to do.
B) Throw serious money and talent at it, and generate a pillar that people for the next 1 or 2 decades will look on and go i have to play this at some point no matter if im interrested in this normaly or not, and in that way generate even more income over time far exceeding the initial cost/benefit, plus our reputation will get a stellar redemption.
They have the money to throw after a project that only AAA can possibly provide.
– Long version.
To have a good.. a really good game, you cant do bare minimum. I expect Blizzard to suit up and understand the previous titles are dated, you need more things you cant keep doing bland and bare minimum.
My complaints are many, the combat is actualy good(ish), they are on to something its not perfect but they got a few things right over other ARPGs (im worried for how world buffs and paragon will completely flip the scale in your favour on its own or just as bad be fluff that means nothing of true importance, hopefully its a give and take approach)
The endgame we havnt been shown from the dungeons we have seen, the boss mechanics so far are not super interresting and very samey. Blizzard with their WoW history of boss creations are extremely lacking here, compared to what we know the company can do.
Skills are upgraded to have very much d3 runic effects, not much super interresting, sometimes vital other times not so much. Not sure what to make of that in terms of how a skill can alter its nature or play well into something else.
Then theres the cinematics with ingame graphics (you HAVE to look at the character you created for whatever reason), again Diablo 1/2 cutscenes were absolutely amazing for their time, there were 1 cinematic per class you were and id be fine with that again here, they really dropped the ball here for what this company in particular has shown multiple times it can do. This is not your average skilled indie company after school 15-17 project , this is billions of dollars worth of acquireing skillful people to go above and beyond, and honestly they do not show the distance here.
The UI is indeed very unimaginative, the fonts are boring the way the items list abilities are clustered so badly, the delay on display of items cant be changed.
Kill animations not good either, kind of a shame seeins as you have lower amount of monsters to fight, no attention to amp that detail.
Gold, it does have some use, but you sink it into putting item effects on, i dont hate it but i also think they could go a little more out of the box, again being a billion dollar company, hireing excelent talent and creativity should be anything but a difficult feat, again with the simple amethysts and emerald stones, really boring socketing, one should think they would have learned a lot more lessons from D2/PoE/D3.
Mechanics are so far get a little light if you want to expand on them, you cant alter the range of close/distant atleast not yet (whatever the range is also thanks for the transparency there Blizzard in terms of what it even is in distance and how far that is and not showing dps close/distant respectively through advanced display). I dont wanna slander them too much on that subject, it can still go sort of well if they dont zombie on as per usual, again i doubt they will get this right if they dont show us they have changed as a company.
Overall i think people give companies of this magnitude way too easy a time when it comes to quality and perfections. Its mediocre as it as, and its bad for a company that pretty much pionered the genre, and even worse with the money behind them, i expected more lessons to have been learned from other games and especialy their own, i expected better polish especialy for a beta.
I doubt i will pay for this game until ive seen what endgame is like and what the game will offer there, if its the same D3 shit in a new shape of turd, i wont bother with this game. Also their asking price is silly, its greedy and its not a promising sign on its own. Plus their openess about their approach and direction hasnt been fantastic, they would not shut up about it if they were truely proud about what they intend to accomplish.
I dont hate the game but also dont love it, and that is a heavy concerning feeling i cant shake.
Yep, I don’t get it either. The game is 100% great to the vast majority of people who tried it. I streamed the game in the past two tests. I’ve probably played more games than anyone I’ve met on the planet. Let me tell you this. Diablo 4 is so good that it makes time go by much faster than almost any other game I’ve played. This is the hallmark of a great game. I ended up streaming 100 hours of the two betas. Each stream was almost 24 hours and each one felt like 6 hours to me. I played through hardcore with every character and didn’t blink an eye at restarting when I died. Just went oh well let’s go again. Hopefully the end game doesn’t suck.
D4 is leagues better than d3 those ppl are crazy.
im not sure how i feel about it tbh. like, im going to keep my pre order and play it and everything, but i wasn’t as wowed by it as i expected. played Sorc, Necro and Druid and just none of them really amazed me. The skills took a step back in their cool factor, the drill down trees for the skills were boring. nothing really changed how something worked. There’s a lot more skill points to be had and way more customization which is cool, but yea, nothing really made me think “man i cant wait to unlock that later skill, that sounds so badass”. Also, the game was stupid easy. Not sure if they’ll bump up the difficulty for launch, but I had no reason to dodge or kite or care about skill usage. health pots were everywhere. lastly, not really a fan of the open world and side quests and whatnot. i like to play Diablo for the campaign experience. the immersion. i dont feel as immersed with others running around. its not my story at that point. thats a feature for end game i feel. so it just felt like i was playing Lost Ark or something, which is fun, but not what I go to Diablo for.
I still don’t understand why you still cannot distribute attribute points manually to your character. I would much rather be able to mold my character into a dodgy, crit based, dual weilding maniac instead of a slow plodding sitting duck for all manner of ground based traps as a barbarian. Now I have to use skills that have to use all the different types of weapons that you can slot into the barbs inventory in order to stand a chance at the early levels.
I tried it and IMO its Meh and totally forgettable the UI looks like crap D2R is the champ of diablo games
Not sure why no one is mentioning the 3000% item drop increase set for the beta testing. Legendary items make or break each class and their builds in this iteration. What happens to he feel/fun of this game for someone who has poor luck no only with receiving legendary drops but further bad luck in getting drops that help their build?
Would be foolish to assume the devs will automagically address this issue properly and it can be the difference between “I had fun” and “this is terrible”.
There’s a lot of nitpicking, but overall it’s a solid game. The lack of a map overlay was the biggest concern I heard about, and that’s completely understandable. Aside from that, my biggest gripe is the chat box isn’t in the left corner, and if it’s a feature that can be changed, it’s not intuitive. There’s just so much stuff in the menus, it’s hard to navigate.
I learned something new today, neither force nor me got laid freshman year of college.
Take in consideration that even Diablo III sold more than 30 million units it still strugled to retain his players and is constantly overshadowed by Path Of exile in terms of Twitch populariry and annual earnings (PoE essentially banks ~40 million $ a year, whereas DIII at the moment probably costs money to Blizzard).
One minor nitpick is your comparison of concurrent PoE players using Steam stats. PoE has its own launcher and I suspect a majority of the player base still use this over Steam launcher.
shill
F end game id rather not sit at max lvl & do nothing zzZZzzz thay should add a reincarnation system loop like in DDO u can basically get sent back to lvl 1 but u get a Extra stat & skill points to spend :)endless growth
I actually got some pretty cool legendary items. One gave me two extra skeletal warriors, and the other made me practically invincible for damaging elites.
Honestly, Diablo 4 has been one of few games that I’ve been looking forward to and now that I’ve played it, I’m not disappointed. The beta was a ton of fun, despite the performance issues.
Never trust anybody at all when it comes to how fun a game is. You could be one of 10 people who actually enjoy it.
This is click bait as hell. Most people LOVE D4. Quit trying to incite panic.
played it and it was fine however i play lost ark so the combat of diablo was a slight letdown
DOYOU GUYS NOT HAVE PHONES??? 😊
Gee. You must be wrong. Angry Joe says it is a 10/10.
$109 AUD,
Battle Pass
Microtransactions.
Yeahnah
Definitely a crappy game.
Looks nice, plays nice, but is ultimately a shit game with shit mechanics.
why would you even look at Diablo when path of exile exist, and its free
It’s your typical game in the 2020’s everything is shitty now days and will never be as good as their previous games… respectively
I don’t think everyone hates Diablo 4, but I bet some of the people really hate how the beta bricked their cards
Bad business practice.. but who cares, as long as the game is good, right?
While more people will play this game as it is flashy with top-notch graphics and a cool campaign playthrough, I honestly think PoE is a better game with so much more depth and options for diverse builds. Of course it’s a biased opinion, and not everybody likes too much depth, but yeah I thrive on it… also not sure how much replayability D4 will have at end-game, but I will reserve judgement until I play full game on release. If it is just rifts, and greater rifts similar to D3, then however I think it will be lacking.
Lastly I know that way more people will play Diablo because it’s a long running, and already establish IP with a huge following, and I also acknowledge that without Diablo, PoE probably would not exist, but still… in my opinion, POE > D4.
I have played and i think D4 is one of best Diablo clones, but this type of genre guess will die just like strategy as there was no changes in this genre like for ever. Locations have same story as Dragon age 2 with copy paste map parts. Missions are just shoot them all and no actual difference. Classes are super unbalanced starting weak and slow druid and ending with cheating power maniac necromancer. If you want just go and kill all the time then its fine game, but there diablo 3 and tons of other diablo like games, what the point of same game in different colors.
People crying about a dungeon, crawler being just that, a dungeon crawler 😂 the game is dope af!
If you don’t like the game, don’t fucking buy it. It’s a simple as that. People are gonna cry, no matter what.
The only real downside for me, this game should look and feel more like D2. This is how it is advertised. But it still plays and looks way more D3. Yes its darker and the mood is better, but yet d4 still feels less grounded and misses that really dark feel. Its all in the small details. Other than that. I like the gameplays. And as a casual gamer with a second child around the corner this is definitely a game that i will play 1 hour a day.
It looked amazing but I never got to play the beta because I’m an offline gamer so why isn’t anyone talking about that since diablo 3 and the original 2 were playable offline
The game feels, plays and looks like a Korean F2P Diablo clone. But the asking price is 70-90 euro.
For me who absolutely love Grim Dawn I could never become a hardcore player just because the system for skills and gear is just way too complicated for me. Diablo 4 at least in the beta having the ability to just swap abilities instantly for essentially free gives me a chance to actually try different things and get deep into the skill tree. That alone was huge for me I want to be a hardcore ARPG player but the games just are usually too much for me Diablo 4 as of right now is looking to be my favorite ARPG and will be the first time I can become a genuine hardcore player im very excited
The game is cleary very good, the coping is hard
Interesting hardcore meta review of a beta test (your title is misleading). While it’s understandable to value the opinions of hardcore players, it’s important to consider a diverse range of perspectives when reviewing a -game- beta test. Additionally, it’s essential to keep in mind the context and expectations of the game when evaluating its features and mechanics; “Diablo IV! Hardcore Only?”
diablo 4 is the best game i ever played
The level scaling should also affect out attack power, you level up but the power level doesnt move an inch, we should also get skill points we can place each level for out str,dex,int,will. Legendary drops are not often so we for lots of time are “stuck” on the power level until something better drops or we have luck with the obos lottery.
I am at a point where the info available makes it likely I’ll wait a year after it comes out so I can make a really solid choice on the game. I love the look of it and the story seems to be better than any recent Blizz IP. But mechanically from the demo it feels like a poorly designed game. I want to be able to spend 1k+ hrs in it but as is I’d play the story once a never play again, and any game like that cant be priced over $30.00 for me.
Nice click bait bro
“it was a mess. A pernicious mixture of server issues and deeper design flaws angered a fan community that had already been anxious about this new chapter in the beloved series, which had been more than a decade in the making.”
-GameSpot on D3’s launch. Sound familiar?
Path of exile global chat woud like to disagree, many people keep saying it will be the poe killer.
I never stopped hating wow. I like Diablo 4 but it’s going to have some major issues. You literally attack faster if you spam the attack
Once they tried to force me to pre order just to check out the beta. I was out. Im not buying anymore games unless its a finished product. Why do these devs not understand this concept yet??. People are tired of getting ripped off on unfinished half assed projects.
People are criticizing from a place of love. Everyone wants this to succeed, and not just commercially.
just my opinion, d4 is not getting past POE. it might at first on its name alone, but it will fall off cause d4 is just gonna be the same dumpster fire that d3 ended up being, people will like and play it but probably walk away from it sooner rather then later because of how lacking blizzard has been with their games over the last couple of decades. been playing diablo since d1 hug fan, just dont have a lot of faith in blizzard to actually make a good diablo game anymore. it will be more of the same just with a new coat of paint, like i said just my opinion.
Why would you want to be stronger than the monsters at same level even without better items? that leaves no sense of accomplishment when you find a new item for your build…which is actually what the game is about….LOOT!
I’m excited for Diablo 4 but with that being said diablo 4 is also my first ever diablo game
They should have made this game exactly like diablo 2 cause that was the best diablo… I don’t understand why anyone would want anything different. If you do I consider you foolish
I played I enjoyed, I might buy
Loved playing the beta version for the last 2 weekends,can’t wait until it’s released
diablo 4 is actual trash but we all wish it to be good, we play it like a shitty arcade game — we skip all the quests and try to minmax the grind and bosses. Its an arcade game its not an rpg like baldurs gate 2
Asmongold is hot garbage. Why anyone watches him is baffling to me.
I loved it. Wtf is everyone’s problem?
I really felt this vid… and agree with the assessment. I am not a hardcore arpg player and I couldn’t play Path of Exile .. ended up just deleting it in fact. So… I am definitely of the masses that Blizzard is attempting to reach… give me Diablo 4!!!!!
gamers are the worst consumer right next to truck guys
What’s wrong with you? If they dumb the game down from Diablo 3, the game will only be for 5 year olds.
Completely agree. Most of the reviews are people complaining about things most players don’t care about. Plus it’s a level 25/one zone BETA. People complaining about the gameplay loop in a freaking beta. Whatever. D4 is looking great and can’t wait till June.
Great video, thanks for covering this. People crapped all over Diablo 3 also, but I thought it was a pretty fun game, and I have been a fan of the Diablo series since Diablo 1 first released. Blizzard is a money making corporation, not a group of gaming saviors. They are going to make way more money off of the general masses than a small group of hardcore gamers who live in ARPG land. Also it was way easier to impress people and bring fresh ideas with Diablo 1 and 2 when there were very few games like it.
Reply ability??? I don’t think so😊
I heavily disagree, As someone who has heavy prescription glasses and generally has bad eyesight; Font size and type Can make a huge difference, especially in a game where you have Read a bunch of stats🥸
sweet video Force.
The graphics seem pretty awesome but I feel like they dumbed it down. This is why I play my ps5 once a year. The general public is filled with nothing but morons. I beat the original Zelda as a kid and I feel an adult in their 20’s couldn’t beat it because their brain power is at a zero
I know it’s a detail, but most PoE player I know play on stand alone client, not steam. Figure you show is, I imagine, way higher.
On the topic, I was disapointed during the first beta WE, then surprisingly pleased to come back for the 2nd. I wish D4 all the best, i’d love to have a 2nd ARPG to nourish my chronophage tendancy.
it was fun, there are lots of good improvements, but the whole game feels dumb. When I think about it, it feel like a dumb, shallow game.
Nailed it.
This is just a good time for ARPGs and, let’s fucking enjoy
I want and need offline mode i play diablo to slay demons and make a badass character not to play with other people to possible hack my game idk servers sounds fucked
The overworld scaling was a great move. I played with about 15 casual friends over the weekend and all of them loved the fact that we could all play together with everyone being all over the level range. Its likely to be the reason they end up getting the game as in other games they always feel like they are so far behind that’s its not fun to play together
Nobody hates it… It was great. Can’t wait for release
So I’m totally with you on almost all of your points. The deal breaker for me though is build variety that is fun. I leveled up 2 characters to lvl 25 the first weekend, and I felt bored after that, left wondering if I could refund this and curious about when POE 2 comes out lol. I hope it does end up some where in the middle for complexity, but so far I am worried…
I really liked this content. I too agree with many of the critiques as a player of almost every ARPG ever, but one in particular puzzles me: the problem people have with the game scaling up and getting harder as you level. It is clear that the mobs in the game ramp up faster than the player if you just randomly slap on any piece of gear that has a bigger +. However, me and many of my friends playing thought the game was way too easy to begin with (yes in world tier 2). Most of us who still play D3, start playing several tiers above the starting tier to ramp up the challenge and level quicker. The whole point of Diablo is to keep conquering the game as it becomes harder and harder. What if they decided to do that through level as well as world tier in this iteration of the game. Why is that bad?
For myself, I never felt like I was losing power as I leveled up either weekend (except for the barbarian but my build sucked at the start). So, my concerns remained in the camp of will the game be challenging enough to be super fun before we get to the first real new world tier. Either way, 25 levels implies we have seen 25% of what these characters can do, but level 25 (if the game works like most others) is really more like 10% at most. So, like the man says, lets see what the game can really do 🙂
My only real complaint is that I can’t move with wasd
The always online aspect of this game kills it for me and not having the monk class bothers me as well but I know that could come later. Being confined to always online and pretty much at the mercy of servers to ruin a night’s play time or the weekend just cuz of a server… It is absolutely ridiculous. This whole inclusive playing with people bothers the shit out of me.
It’s like they tried to take some of the skills from D2 and add it to D3
9:33 You DID NOT just compare StarCraft 2 with C&C games in this context, did you???? StarCraft 2 is waaaaay more complex and anti casual than CnC.
Its lazy and doesnt seem like they put any effort into it. 4/10 is being generous. I would have gave it a 2. Copy and paste layouts. Combat is slow and boring. Ui/inventory/customization/gear all low to mid tier. The list goes on. I love d2 and i know they will never make a diablo as good. D3 sucked but i can still play it occasionally. D4 is just ourright horrible. A huge step backwards. Feels more like diablo is turning into an rpg version of gauntlet. On top of that its gonna be filled with mobile mechanics like micro transactions a battle pass and all that cheap cash grab stuff. If blizzard cared they would stop trying to cater to casual gamers that will only play for a month b4 they move on to the next big release and actually try to make a good diablo game that fans will play for years
The optimization was & is pathetic
Just felt tedious to play, at least as a Barb… stuff just takes too long to die, fury based skills seemed to be delayed because of the always online nature of the game and the level scaling sucks all the fun out of the game.
I also have issues with the graphics, your character and enemies are so similarly coloured and shaded as the environment, I found it really hard in big battles to see what was going on and where my character was.
Yeah, I’m not worried. I don’t like D4, but plenty of people will. Blizzard games are great for new gamers. They make solid titles for a genre. Nothing fancy.
This is what I Feared: A dumbed down version of what we want it to be. From what I’m seeing, Blizzard does not make games, they make profit.
I feel like if this game came out instead of immortals I would play it. But its too late. Many hype games coming (SF6) so D4 will sit on the bench.
Don’t get me wrong it is D3 2.0 in a good way. It’s very fun, although a bit easy. But yeah, I’ll see you guys when d4 is 20 bucks
I played the open beta. It was fun, but not worth the price. diablo 2 is still the most fun of the series.
25+ years playing the Diablo series – this was a trainwreck and for THE “next gen” ARPG from a $60B AAA? I REALLY wanted to love it & be impressed, nope, not at all. TY for all you do guys!
All they did was take Lost Ark and put a Diablo twist on it. Its not ground breaking. In fact its rather boring.
With only 6 action buttons, the game cannot be rated higher than a 4/10. That said, i did enjoy the beta, specifically the rogue. What I don’t know is how much of that enjoyment was just the ‘honeymoon period’. I know that it did piss me off when i had useful stuff on my action bars but then i unlocked my ultimate and i had no room for it. That’s just poor design and it WILL be a major limitation.
Why have so many options but still be limited? Seems artificial. It’s just the d3 talents rearranged into a tree shape but the d3 limitation still exists.
You said the same thing 5 different times.
Ragebait
Wait… unnamed survival game? How did I not know this?
i liked the beta it did a good job in min to min game play my issue were like small things druid not having any of its core stuff the map needs better color for ppl with bad sight , i do think they should just use adventure mode d3 rift systems as a randomizer for dungeon , and the server hick ups on ps5 making me rubber band or not let me in a new area because of the servers is annoying last please make gear drop around my lvl instead of it being lvl 13 while im at 25
Actually most people like it, nice misleading retard Youtube title btw
Not everyone. I couldnt get enough. And i personally loved it
feel like this video is a whole bunch of cope based on one time a blizzard game “looked bad” before launch and it turned out to be good.
I was on the fence about D4 before playing the open beta, but after playing it I will definitely be buying it. I didn’t think the MMO parts were terrible, and it was kind of fun running into people randomly in the world. My big complaint was that I felt I was getting weaker as I leveled up. I had a barb that I got to level 16 before the end of the beta, and it was a hard push for me to get there. I may have had a terrible build, I’m by no means a pro at ARPG’s, but I was disappointed by that, especially since strong melee characters tend to be my go-to in any RPG.
Yeah not sure about the bad review title is the way to go… heard alot of positive reviews not even 1 negative just about lag issues thats about it….. so why make a false video and say your gonna play the game 🤔
I enjoyed it but my biggest complaint, has not really been mentioned by anyone that I have seen is the lack of action slots. In DIII we had all 10 now we get only 4 which makes it really hard to take advantage of all the cool skills or combo builds.
Honestly, i couldn’t care less about D4, i _loved_ D1&2, and enjoyed D3 as well despite all the negative coverage. I’m sure i’ll enjoy D4 too if i ever get it. But Diablo isn’t why i’m making this comment.
This statement right here ( 13:00 ), that’s why i’m taking the time to make this comment.
I simply _can not overstate_ how incredibly refreshing and utterly overjoying it is to finally hear a game critic acknowledge this. The fact that the overwhelming majority of game critics, if not straight- up _ALL_ of them, tend to get hyper fixated on little details and then make mountains out of molehills. That’s not even to mention the way a *very large* portion of game critics these days seem to think their opinions are _gospel_ in the most literal way possible. (Cough cough, LegendKillaHD, cough cough)
I just really wanted to take the time to point out and really _pour on_ the praise for what i think is by far the single most important thing said in this video. You deserve huuuuuge credit for being one the very few people in your chosen “sphere of youtube” who is at least self-aware, because that is a trait that is becoming increasingly more and more dangerously rare these days among the “Gaming” segment of YouTube.
The game is awesome and people are loving it. Why lie?
I really appreciate how the plot has been shaping up so far. The complexity in the conflict between Inarius and Lilith’s forces is a highlight for me. Both sides seem to be using humanity while claiming to be their only means of salvation. There are many well-meaning characters involved with the church faction but you also see a number of violent, extremist practices being carried out by the institution. But their actions make sense when you see how dire things are just around the Fractured Peaks area alone.
Let’s paint a false narrative like the fake media. I swear it’s like people want things to fail that bring us enjoyment.
Blizzard knows most gamers grow up and has to maintain jobs and family, but they have become masters of quick great gameplay boosts. Yes it caters more to us casuals, but then again I will never have the 1000 of hours to sink into games, gear farming etc. maybe ever again. Give it 10 years and I will hear my kids complain about how some people can just buy stuff (which I used to do), but now that I have the cash I like that option 🙂 I am looking forward to revisiting a franchise now as a retired hardcore nerd.
I’ve been following a few channels, including this one, for Diablo IV content, and have been enjoying seeing the wide range of nuanced comments on the game. I noticed I tended to align a bit more with some views rather than others, but as time went on it became more and more clear that most of those divergences are matters of opinion and personal preference. And all that changed quite a bit having played the betas and and got to know firsthand how the game is shaping up for real.
I’m surprised that more people haven’t brought up the on-boarding experience and UI/UX. For example, how the game explains (or doesn’t) it’s mechanics. Simply how to do things.
Aside: How many Necromancers broke their minds wondering why they couldn’t attack (or how weapons impact their attacks) without looking it up?
Bad misleading title………….. thumbs down lol
Seems like it’s really cold in your house
Game is boring, ugly, simple, items and skill sucks, the characters are copy paste of the most vanila stereotypes.. Boring, simple and zero innovation. I refunded.
I think the consensus is that blizzard polishes things until theyre shiny. you might have to shell out 60 bucks every few years for what many would consider just a DLC but the idea of rehashing systems to make it perfect is what makes blizzard, blizzard. Overwatch 2 is not a good example however… everyone makes mistakes lol
I thought the beta was amazing. I’m really excited to spend some time with it this year.
I wonder if the haters maybe want the same game they already have, time and time and time again… 50 years down the line we’ll be playing the exact same games. Sounds like a bleek future to me!
Gamers are seriously the most insufferable consumers out of any entertainment medium imo. People are NEVER happy with what they get and that attitude has only gotten worse the more the internet grew.
The game is still not out yet… so you don’t know what the final product will actually be. I actually played the closed end game beta and both weekends of the open beta and I believe the game is amazing.
It’s pretty amazing how everyone loves to destroy a game without actually giving it a try first… (the best example is days gone.. everyone dissed it to the point they didn’t make a sequel and once it went free on ps plus and people actually played it they loved it).
All games have certain issues and eventually they get fixed.
Honestly, Never had evere played a arpg that I enjoyed more than Diablo 4 and I felt that it was less clunky and felt nicer than Diablo 3. Dungeons felt fine since you only went to them once or twice. I feel like its a great game and the gear progression with aspects and gems felt nice and concise. The only worry I have is that for late game/ Replayablity that it will be fun or just boring.
It’s literally Lost Ark – Lite. Without all the fluffing bullshit that came with P2W. It’s the SAME game it has always been.
Diablo 4 is fun as phuk.
I never saw a negative review
Good stuff.
rly nice video. yes i agree on the dungeon repetativness. “if that is a word” :P. it should be something they still can do something about., i do love it tho. i had a car at lvl 60 ich. and ye its a different game then 25. i also see that lvling and feeling less powerfull aint right but that will change as you get gear. i love it and will be playing it. i love that no matter what lvl you or they are you can play with your friends. i worry a bit about the seasons. how much will they change the game. lets see, ill be there when i launches.
Fun, but the game isn’t “amazing”. Its kinda the same ol diablo. Honestly I think the visuals are a bit weak also. Its not revolutionary, its evolutionary. We all wanted it to elevate the Diablo experience but Blizz is playing it way too safe. Also everyone keeps pointing out how the Druid isn’t what it should be which isn’t so good considering a lot of people want to play Druid.
Conflict of interest: this guy is literally making a D4 channel, hence Diablo 4 is very fun. Fuck your opinion, man.
1 specific thing: Remove the INCREASED HEALTH modifier. It’s AWFUL. All it does is turn trash swarms into damage sponges. No fun at all.
That power scaling turned me off to ESO. I had a level 45 and would do higher numbers on my level 8.
I call it Diablo Ark. I doubt that’s what the fans of the older games wanted.
I liked the moment to moment and the presentation but the side content was a slog.
Diablo 4 is awesome, content creators are nuts.
Dennis boi, you’ve grown much over the years and your content shows it. Thanks for your efforts. Here’s to the new channel!
I enjoyed it I leveled everything up to 20+ with my sorceress capping at 25. It was great. And I will be playing.
Watched it on the bald guy’s channel. Just here to say great video and I agree completely. 🙂
Is this for stupid clickbait title, came here for the hate critics video?
Problem is, most of the in-depth reviews come from such a miniscule part of the playerbase (stereamers) that it, basically, means nothing. Why would people even care what one dude who speedruns D2 24/7 have to say? Or guys who made a name in PoE playing “hardcore” with logout macros? Those guys literally get payed to play games, contrary to the vast majority who play for fun. So, they play games differently. Most of those videos dumping on D4 are basically bitching how they can’t do the stuff they are used to in smaller games who cater to them (and sometimes drastically change game mechanics) for a bit of free publicity. D4 is fun and enjoyable, period. It will sell incredibly well, it will be played for god knows how many years, that’s it.
I have played all Diablo games and expansions since the start but I’m going to skip getting this at launch.. I’ll probably pick it up sometime later when it costs 10-15$ but it just doesn’t seem to be adding anything really new and I’m a bit played out on that formula. I think younger players (and they are the vast majority) will still play it, so I think it will do fine.. but without me.
Diablo 2 is 23 years old and Blizzard is still scratching their asses in confusion as to why it was “good.” D4 is boring as fuck. I’ve tried to give it the gain of salt it is due, but it is clears a day the game is overly handicapped by console design first pc second. I’m sorry, ARPGS are constantly constrained by scope and controls. While D3 was “bad” for this reason, it was more manageable than D4. D4 is so damn slow feeling I’ve actually wanted to take a nap instead of continuing to play. It looks great. It sounds great. The “tone” is more in the D2 vein to some degree but not really. However, the actual gameplay is a fucking snore fest. I know some of that might be due to the level 25 cap, but D3 didn’t seem to have the problem.
It will sell very well because the number of players who have no desire to be “left behind” or “left out” will gobble it up. However, I’d honestly rather play D2R or D3 more than shell out the cost for this which isn’t adding much of anything in experience. It is everything bad from WOW lately and everything bad about D3. Kudos to Blizzard for fucking up for 18 years straight!
Don’t forget the guys that have opinions on games like D4 but then never play games like D4.
I hope we don’t see legendary items at lvl 15 in the real game… feels like a mobile game when I saw it drop.
i ENJOY3ED IT.
I really apricate how deep you go into topics and your breakdowns are clear. Always looking forward to your content, Keep living your life man!!
Fantastic review. To me the platform is fantastic. Itemization and skills are impossible to determine at 25. Dungeons are easy to fix. I dislike the scaling and suspect it will go away. Technically it’s a moot point at endgame so will only impact the small groups of playthrough fans. What I see is an amazing opportunity…who knows how it develops over the next 10 years. D3 is nothing like it’s launch version. Neither is D2. I loved both and will love this I suspect.
Say kripp right
Love the meta-analysis. Great insight, critique, self-awareness, and reflection. I’ve always thought this about hardcore Diablo/ARPG players – that their perspective and what they want from a game is possibly significantly different than the thousands or millions of casual gamers that will play the game. And I have hoped that game developers don’t listen too much to these hardcore players and end up creating a game just for them. It looks like D4 hasn’t fallen into that trap, but we will see.
I am super excited to hear about your own D4 beta experience!
Not everyone hates Diablo 4, they need to speak for themselves lol.
My complaints are very minor. Class balance being the most notable. One other thing is only having 5 buttons for skills because I’d love to have like 1 or 2 more. Lag and stuff related to poopy beta servers get a pass because, well, it’s beta. Commenting the game lacks any depth when we played to level 25 in the first zone is a bit “what?”. Hard to compare low level experience to like t16 POE mapping for example. We don’t know much of anything outside of rumors and possible leaks about end game. So yeah judging the game for “lack of complexity” is not really valid in a preview beta.
4/10 is a way better score than I would have given it.
The amount of nonsense in this vidéo…
You contradict yourself many times, the wow part isn’t true, it was the opposite, the “as in lvl 25” part is because devs said they’ll use beta feedback to balance classes at that level, which was a terrible statement on their part… No one expects balance at lvl 25, but to that degree ?
Does the majority of players care about those glaring issues ?
The answer is yes, otherwise you have no clue what type of game you’re playing… That’s just an insult to Diablo players.
its a really good game in many ways others it really sucks ballz the world scaling is gross the dungeons are so bland some of the classes are straight up broken for example permeant invulnerable necromancer and then there is the community wanting the barb buffed and thinking necro is amazing lol however levering up a rogue or barb felt great to me a nice difficulty curve and once you learn and start your own build it opens up a lot and you start feeling like a champion the world boss is absolute trash i have watched so many people dying tho as i just moved slightly out the way of his attacks and got hit once or twice in the whole fight lol its insanity !
Your comparison of WoWs launch is a bit weird. Firstly it feels like excuse making, second they are fundamentally different scenarios, times and games. Diablo is being compared to it’s previous iterations if itself, WoW was compared to other games from other Franchises. Your blizz cheque is in the post.
Diablo is for Mobile gamers who just want lolz epik Lootz games.
I hope, D4 devs see this video. Because you analyse absolutely right. Thank you. <3
For PoE you also have to mention the stand-alone and chinese client.
You got to at least double or triple the number of players on steam.
At lvl 25 you can not say what the game really is!!! Until about lvl 50ish it’s more like training!!! Every ARPG in the world is like this. I think we will have to wait and see what the full game is in the end. End game is always where Diablo has shined.
cant wait for release, next 2 months is gonna suck
You can’t rate a game if it hasn’t launched yet, its still beta and a lot of things will change. Its stupid to rate the game now and choose to hate it in its current state.
Only thing id like to see with the dungeons is more of a reason to target specific ones. Like the appearance if items dropping having a specific theme? Or some unique items only obtainable from that boss. Id like the bosses to feel more like bosses aswell. More challenging (not just more hp/dmg/enrage timers.. but more complicated mechanics for the actual fights and more rewarding when killed)… early day d3 actually had cool mechanics fighting the butcher etc safety dancing/dodging the hook etc.
If you take elden ring boss fights and cross it with d4 play style and have hundreds of bosses id love that lol
But PoE had more than peak 150k players since it’s not only on stream, and big portion of players play on PoE launcher, and there are also consoles. It is a similar situation with many other titles.
Try being more genuine next time Blizzdrone and stop spreading misinformation.
“It’s been 2 years, idiot”
I just wish they didn’t restrict the skill tree the way they did.
I don’t like being forced to put points in a basic ability, then a core ability and so on to get to better abilities. D3 had a much more modilar system where any ability could be slotted anywhere. It’s like they want to force builds rather than letting them develop naturally.
Heya, Love the videos keep up the great work :D. Hey I tried your link for the ridge wallet but I don’t think it’s working in Canada? Is this up 40% off deal only in the US?
Your diablo 4 channel is going to blow up, looking forward to it
The way the game is currently designed melee builds are terrible. Your going to have to level using spells the switching to melee later. For example werewolf or werebear are a chore to play when you compare it necro and sorcerer.
Can we stop calling them Blizzard? They are Activision now and have been since 2012.
oh dear after 10 mins you finally conclude your argument and it”s bogus sorry . Blizz wasn’t a dumbwasher gaming company no starcraft wasn”t a dumbed down c&c starcraft was one the finest rts and the start of esports (on a professional huge scale in southkorea), wow had raiding and great pve but garbage roleplay or pve whereas uo still does better in roleplay or even 1v1 or daoc in guildpvp. overwatch is probably even more competitive than tf2. hearthstone and magic hm magic has been around for ages ofc it has more mechanics by now hearthstone has it’s own complexity but for me magic still has the appeal of real playing instead of online . yes true hots was a dumbed down game but this was in a new era way later where also d3 was a dumbed down d2 and i still hoped d4 could be more interesting when they drawback on streamlined builds by not allowing pullback mechanics ,bring statsgain back, not forced builds by equipment and too little differences in skills. Also personally i can’t see how should i enjoy d4 openworld content as a hardcore player when something suddenly is overleveld and just onshots me or a stupid bossmechanic of a openworldboss with a huge blast just kills me randomly when i pass on my horse if things like that can happen i don’t believe i will enjoy d4 . Also d3 was actually only fun at the beginning before it was patched to become too easy hm remembers me of wow which argueably only was decent after the 1st addon. anyway since d3 blizz isn’t a official quality seal anymore and with major f ups like warcraft reforged and even destroying the still working community of before. Trying to cash out with wow classic and somehow making it worse than free servers. Immortals was a huge middlefinger towards the gamers. Other than that activision/microsoft chaos and scandals about their worker and female treatment extra. All together made me not too excited for d4 and very critical towards blizz and way more sceptical towards influencers. But i”ll at least definetly enjoy wacthing all the d4 rendered sequences.
Dosblo was always always a chill game for me where I could grind at my own pace and enjoy killing demon spawn. Now that it’s like Lost Ark all of that goes away. I see bot problems in the near future. Good luck doing events.
I agree its pretty bad. That is what beta is for, to get feedback make adjustments and corrections. The level scaling and the MMO aspects SUCK! ALSO many of the tile sets are a DIRECT copy from d3 with a new skin on it!
As a player who enjoys using the bow, the game felt very underwhelming to me. The skill tree is probably the biggest turn off imo. If that is the finished product, I’m sorry but the game sucks.
I don’t like how complex PoE is but I’ll be damned if I’m spending 70 bucks on a game that’s a dumbed down reskin of D3. There were literally like 4 bow skills and then an ultimate that’s on a 1min cool down timer….on top of that the gear had a lot of trash affixes that are essentially just fluff to give you the illusion of complexity.
Last e-pok 🙂
Diablo4 will be known as the biggest embrassment to arpg releases since Diablo 3.
D4 will be day1 6million people waiting at error screens. Day 7 will be 200k concurrent. Week 3 will be 5k concurrent. And month 9 will be the last announcement that will ever exist. It will just say we are working to fix the problems and have plans to add an endgame. 10 years later. Diablo 5 announcement!!! Internet goes wild!!!!!
even if i get paid to play it, i wouldnt – its a mix between diablo immortal and lost ark
d4 is amazing 9/10
Wow all these comments about blah blah blah … shut up your never going to be able to log in anyways
Having a girl follow me while looking for her mother completely bored me by level 20. The campaign was GRUELING.
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Diablo 4 looks cool but what bothers me is that no matter where I go or what i do, I’m borderline bored. EVERYTHING scales to your level so it’s not too difficult but if im trying to reach a goal (to fight a new zone, or kill a boss I can’t kill) Im happy with something to fight towards. BUT THERES NO GOALPOST in this game! You can run past every creature in the game and only go for story and beat the game at level 20 (honestly) it’s BORING! Path of exile at least forced you to work towards figuring out why you die so fast (resistances) and how to fix them. Im not saying I WANT a complex game like POE (although I’d love that) I’m just saying I want to play something more than pretty cutscenes and actually put CARE and thought into my character and build. But i guess it wouldn’t matter if everything scales to your level anyway
Thank you Force. Looking forward to more Diablo 4 content I have subscribed to your new channel. And I am looking forward to your content in general. Thank you for your insight into Diablo 4 🙂
I’ve played last two weekends, and me personally really like the overall atmosphere and grimness of the thing.
Biggest problems I have mostly concern immersive breakers…..animations that that look weird of stupid, using the same kind of NPC look multiple times as different character…..that kind of thing.
For more technical things, like skill trees and itemization and what not, I’m to stupid……so I like the feedback of those more seasoned players, if the aim is to elevate the game….not kick it in the ground.
D4 beta was overall a good experience yea we had lag issues etc but the game from a d1-3 player I enjoyed it. I’m not a huge fan of the way they did no belts but I understand why doing that works for the console versions etc. The level scaling is alright but I would like to see some more areas for levels vs I get to 20 and all enemies are now 20 but it did make it at least tha ti could farm any area for gear which is both good and bad. Personally all of these games have medium replay ability at best once you max out you build to your play style what’s the point? It isn’t like we have jobs like wow we will have to see what the season passes offer but even then if it’s all cosmetic then eventually it will not be a game worth playing until something is added like a new class etc..
I’m done with D2, Enigma has lost its luster.
The inventory, map/traveling and potion revamp is perfect. The story is ok to me so far, Lilith is badass. The dungeons and power level will evolve over time. Its a beta, I am not worried.
I found myself pretty bored with the Beta and didn’t get sucked into playing it every moment I had. But what I did see what at least a solid foundation from which a higher potential could be achieved. It seems to be somewhat behind where D3 is now, but could definitely grow to be more. I’m ok with it changing as it gets revised. I hear many outcries of delay the launch and do more development, but I think development in a bubble can only do so much. Once it’s live and the D4 community as whole chimes in it’s going to get to where it will eventually be much much faster.
Im a believer that games should be designed to be played, not watched. Be immersed and have fun!
Here is my problem with streamers/youtubers, they have a lot of weight to throw around, but what they want from the game compared to everyone else is a different thing. Streamers want to not go insane by playing the same thing for years while building audience and earning money. Gamers, just…game for fun.
I didn’t have high hopes for D4 after mistake that is immortal, but i was pleasantly surprised this OB weekend, it ran smooth, no crashes. Was easy enough build without having to pull out spreadsheets or build planners, but still gave me moments to go “hmmm, i think this skill build feels better”. They’ve managed to place complexity somewhere between d3 and poe and it’s absolutely fun for me. Majority of unhappy doomers are expecting prettied up D2. Sorry, than ship has sailed long ago.
Im on the fence about scaled leveling, on one hand it always pushes you to make your build better in some way and on the other you never feel like you’ve gotten stronger, it’s like a rollercoaster slope that never ends and keeps going up.
The game UI looks like a mobile version. NO BUY for me.
We’re only kidding ourselves if we think Diablo 4 is any good. It’s simply trash. Secondly, we’re sitting here hoping the plot will make up for it. Highly doubtful. There seems to be absolutely no mentioning of what happened in D3+RoS whatsoever. Which brings me to my next thought: people don’t seem to understand the weight of Diablo 3’s plot results…..neither do the current developers of Diablo 4 apparently. D4 is chalked. It’s unfortunate but is it the truth.
I find it funny no one wants to talk about the micro transaction elephant in the room. All this is irrelevant to me if the predatory monetization is as bad as I’m sure it’s gonna be.
Very nice Analysis, I agree, looking forward to play the game. Thank you!
ive been loving the beta. and im a diehard diablo 3 fan. and for anyone who needs a fill in on the story if you didnt get to play the beta. heres a summary:
Lilith is the goddess of temptation and manipulation. The church, vigo, neyrelle’s mom, and even the angel inarius himself. All somehow corrupted in their own way. The last we see of vigo, he was praying to the heavens hoping to make amends. And at the final battle of act 1, he shows up with godlike armor. It seems like the heavens granted him his amends but also punishment at the same time with death
As someone who has been playing this series since the 90’s, I’ve loved the beta. Some of these critiques are certainly valid and since it’s only the Beta, I would love to see what the final product for release is.
As someone who has a few younger gamers in the house I often worry about influencers personal opinions on many topics and try to support people playing and deciding for themselves.
That being said, D4 is a continuation of a series and not a brand new standalone game, so if you hate it, maybe you just aren’t a Diablo player.
Thanks for the clear and honest videos!
I don’t think I’ve talked to anyone that hates Diablo 4. There are issues, sure, but the couple of dozen people I know that have played it love it. The gaming community as a whole… eh… are a little too entitled and don’t know how to look at things without emotion involved. I’ve basically learned to accept that most of the gaming community is fairly inept at most things – communicating like adults being at the top of that list.
Click bait title. Should be “Streamers who spend 20 hours a day playing games hate D4” And that wouldn’t even be accurate.
You sit there and trash the game the whole video but than say you can’t wait to start playing when it releases? Bizarre
Everyone hates?? Lol not everyone I know…what a statement to make so boldly lol
Blizzard have turned all their games into boring easy leveling and gearing up.
Starcraft more casual, more masscompatible as c&c? Sorry, but in this point you are not correct. 😉
I was excited to play a druid (I played one back in Diablo 2). I absolutely hated the experience, it was frustrating from beginning to end. At some point after an absolutely eternal boss fight I just shut off the beta and never thought of logging back in again.
Played two characters to 20s and I enjoyed it enough to say “I will have to buy this”, but is it something to spend 500 hours plus on? I highly doubt it as it seems like it will just be like Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 once the story is over.
Well worth the time I played, but at one point when I was doing another dungeon outside of the story line I felt…..lets hurry this up and wrap this dungeon up. That kind of feeling will be strong when the main story line is over. Need something more than Bael runs/Rifts in previous Diablo games to keep me around past story.
I loved every minute of D4 early and open beta access. We dont need another Path of Exile! D4 has and should have its own niche. All of these “poor reviews” are not valid at this stage. We only got to taste Veteran difficulty up to lvl25. We have NO CLUE what the end game will be like so calm your tits. Not to mention so called “good” “exciting” legendaries dont drop at lvl25 🙂 . I cant wait to play Full Release and call Sanctuary my Home. Thumbs up
My only real complaint is the always online part & some consequences there in.
My specific example is:
When I play D3 I like to put one Youtube in the other window and just go ham while listening to something or watching a movie.
When I did that in D4 I got some pretty terrible lag on the video & some lag (not unplayable, but not fun) on D4.
I don’t really understand why its a problem here and not with D3, but either way if that gets fixed I’m all about D4.
Seems like a good game.
llama is a manchild d2 shill his opinions are meaningless
Honestly my main complaint is the combat, I think it feels impactful, but not being able to move while attacking is and feels very dated in my opinion.
Diablo 4 just reminds me of Diablo Immortal but more polished. The monetization worries me a great deal as the fact that it has purchasable Battle Passes and the most expensive version offers you a Battle Pass that is already unlocked and well into its process, meaning Pay 2 Win. The game’s content is very blah. The technical issues are really not an issue as most of those will be fixed in due time. It just doesn’t merit 70.00 USD for the Standard version. I am sure it will do great things but I loved the first 3 Diablo games and this one, like Immortal before, just leaves me VERY flat.
poe’s player count is 150k on steam
I played D4 this weekend, got my Necromancer up to 25 and killed the butcher.
I would rate the overall experience as around a 5-6/10. I didn’t ‘hate’ it but felt that it was incredibly average. I personally prefer both PoE’s and Last Epoch’s combat. It might have been a little less ‘crunchy’ but I felt both of those games played better and didn’t freeze every 10 seconds.
My biggest concern is how limited the talent/skill trees felt. Thankfully, the Necromancer had a couple of builds; mainly deciding whether you wanted to play around with the bone skills or go for a more blood (blood mist, or even blood surge) build. However, I think Mathil made the observation that you generally built your character around the legendaries that dropped; have a legendary that buffs blood surge, then spec into it, how about bone spear, then go for that instead. Once you’ve played a necromancer (or any other class), is there really any need to roll it again? Probably not.
Graphically the game looks decent, the art style is an improvement over D3. The sound is good, I loved the music, the voice acting is alright (though I disliked the faux-Russian accents). The combat and gameplay I found underwhelming. Storyline I thought was uncompelling and allowed for a “Lilith ain’t really all that bad” ending. I think that some of the crafting mechanics could be its saving grace (though these are like a less predatory version of DI’s mechanics).
As said, all in all, I found it to be a little bland but alright. I am not going to preorder and I might not play it at launch. I personally, feel like they’ll improve it before launch to around a 7/10 but I think that the skill trees are what will hold it back unless substantially improved. Balance is borked at the moment and will certainly be better (I mean, it has to be, right?) on launch.
For me the main complaint is that it doesn’t feel like a significant enough upgrade from D3, but it is an upgrade, and any desire I have to play D3 is now transferred to D4.
I suspect it will be a solid 7/10
I agree re Blizzard’s modus operandi, but I think D3, one of the best selling games of all-time, is _already_ the simplified, streamlined version of the ARPG genre designed to draw in the masses. Gameplay-wise, I’m not sure what D4 offers over D3. I get we aren’t seeing the whole game, etc., but historical betas/teases for truly great games have _excited_ me, _despite_ those types of omissions. D4 just doesn’t do that for me. I’m sure Blizzard will be working on this a lot, they are going to monetize it after all and will want to keep players hooked. I just don’t see the appeal yet.
You’re a moron if you think StarCraft is dumbed down compared to command and conquer.
im a D2 player solo only, I am not interested in a MMO version of diablo. I hated D3 and so far see the same issues in 4. I hope there is a solo mode, if not I will pass on it.
Sadly first game I 3ver left hate mail on.. no Lego drops,potions,mf,stat. Being able to look impressive but in reality just a skin..feels like a step back.. like the cell phone version.. I have mastered diablo, h3ll fire, etc till now.. very sad …
Thank God this game isn’t being designed around the MrLlamas and PathofMaths of games.
PoE is for the .1% who want to play 18 hrs a day and stare at databases to figure out which of the 400 affixes they want to craft on the influenced gear that took 100 hours to farm and another 200 for the crafting mats. I have no interest in farming an Enigma by running the same zone 3000 times like good ol’ boy Llama.
I killed shit. I had fun. That is all.
I like the enemy scaling aspect. Of course, I really enjoy playing with friends and even running into people in world events and such, so I don’t want to just one shot everything because my gear might be huge in comparison. I hope they keep it as it is, because, if you play this with people, remember what Diablo 3 was for example, you’d not even be able to “play” with people unless it were greater rifts at a high level, and if their gear was equal to yours so they wouldn’t just die and could contribute. Regular rifts were a joke, it was elite pack to elite pack with everyone following the destruction path of one person. I don’t know, personally prefer the way they’ve gone with it in this game from a multiplayer aspect, don’t really need my epeen to be enormous if the trade-off is having fun with other people.
Started playing Last Epoch after trying the Diablo 4 beta. It’s so dang good.
I really wish they add a bestiary in the game so you can revisit the demons/monsters and bosses you slew to enjoy their art style and description, sometimes in the heat of the action you don’t get much time to enjoy the so diversified and magnificent art of this game.
Is it annoying for a Youtuber, that doesn’t have an original thought in his body, steal your content and profit off it?
No. Everyone hates u.
Majority likes d4 . Thumps down for that bs topic.
Your take on ‘StarCraft’ being easier than ‘Command & Conquer’ is probably the most retarded shit I’ve ever heard in my life to do with video games. ‘StarCraft’ is one of, if not the most, hardcore game series ever made. The learning curve makes ‘Escape From Tarkov’ look like you’re playing in a ball pit. I don’t even play ‘StarCraft’, and even I know that it’s the most difficult set of games ever to get remotely good at.
Sadly none of the classes really clicked with me, i don’t like the skill trees they just seem so… uninspired. Most other things are pretty good but that one thing is a huge negative.
Yooo good luck with the new channel!
I’m excited for D4, it’ll ve a great playthrough or two but I’m not sure about seasons. Unless they really spice it up, I don’t see myself sticking around.
Asmongold is cringe and I worry for his mental well being.
Not Everybody i ❤ D4,
i disagree that there is some big reveal to come for Diablo 4 and the end game. What we see here is what it will be for the other acts and end game will be running the same dungeons over and over just at the scaled difficulty. They are just going to mimic the PoE formula but have made it less grinding.
I think until level 25 you can pretty much only judge the casual aspect of the game, as this is what almost every player will experience. And from that standpoint I am mildly disappointed. It feels like an upgraded version of Diablo with some Lost Ark features. It is missing that special something as of rn.
Imo it isn t bad but it isn t amazin either. It feels like as if it were something I ve already played but with only the stuff very bland in.
I need to take a shower. I feel dirty after watching so much shilling.
i would rather see a massive expansion to d2r.
Clickbait…. Beta is actually good!! And I’m a casual at this type of games
I love the beta it does have some issues regarding lagging and log in issues but other then that I like the game it has huge potential.
For some reason I am more excited for PoE 2 than Diablo.
Beta was great 😊
This video was a 4/10 though
I didn’t have fun with D4 beta. This seems like mobile game. Gameplay was boring and I had little fun killing monsters. I’ll pass.
My biggest complaints were class balance and the itemization. Necro feels OP while druid feels like a wet noodle Its very annoying seeing this again after playing D2 for so long. D2 melee vs. casters performance have always been an issue in D2 and its sad to see it return.
I was expecting more from items; rares are boring and legendaries just have a singular affix that may or may not work for your build, forcing you to re-spec into a build that you may or may not like. Seems like a big issue to me…
As someone whos NEVER played a previous diablo game, i enjoyed the d4 beta
It’s everything I’ve waited for, minus the shared world. Wish they would have shared cities and that’s it.
Play Last epoch, better game, half the price.
played alpha until lvl 13 and I gave up. played yesterday the beta and gave up after 10 minutes. I think D4 is strictly made for a type of gamers …and not for Diablo community fan base.
Whoever says that diablo 4 is even remotely good , just ask yourselves this. If this game was NOT named Diablo, but rather some other random name, would you even give it the time of day?
I am really enjoying the BETA (bugs are present, not too many that impacted my weekend play)
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I think you are right: In many cases Blizzard has not simply tried to attract the usual audience of a genre within the gaming community, but to appeal to new players as well. So the feedback of the hardcore fanbase – who probably would play the game anyway – isn’t as important as they would like to think. Diablo 1 was my first proper PC game, so this series is always something special for me, but I am not as hardcore as some other people about it. And overall I enjoyed it. With the history of the company in the past few years I have grown sceptical and concerned, but so far it is really looking good here. Good is not perfect though. Some performance issues and class balance seemingly all over the place and some other rough edges that actually make me wonder if they can fix it in time for the release. Also some typical MMO and convenience features I would like to see added (later on): Sharing quests with group members and maybe an LFG for the dungeons – not because you need it, but because you would like to do it as a group. And a planning mode for your skills (marking those skills you want to take when leveling up) alongside an easy way to aplly it without needing to take a break.
Diablo 4 on PS4 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 https://youtu.be/XREZGzBwz0s
I’d hoped for a sequel to Diablo 3, pushing that gameplay further, instead I feel we have Diablo Immortal 2. Hey ho, I hope people enjoy it.
Played the beta and hated it.
Boring, generic classes doing generic stuff, nothing exciting.
Lvl 12 and I was doing worse than at lvl 1 with grey gear in terms of speed killing because of the inflation of enemy HP with leveling up and the stupid level scaling.
No challenge whatsoever (just more HP), itemization sucks, dungeons suck (I did 2 of them and I didn’t want to set a foot in them anymore with those boring fetch items mechanics to open boss rooms for no substancial rewards)
The beta felt like a waste of time for me and my brother.
I completely understand why people asked for a refund after the first beta.
I want a refund of my time.
You are judging it and we didn’t even see the endgame. EVERYTHING is subject to change
D4 is fine and I had fun both weekends. If you want needless complexity, there’s another game out there. Some of the knit picking based on a sliver of the game is 😂.
“What Starcraft was to C&C” [dumbed-down/streamlined]
I mean I know you went for the royal flush of perfect examples, but this is one of the most clueless statements I’ve heard in my entire life, and I’m not even exaggerating lol C&C is casual compared to BOTH starcrafts, in terms of both mechanics and overall development/ecosystem.
sounds like polished garbo to me tbh
I feel like people keep forgetting the beta is a beta and many of the big talking points right now, like with drop rates, will be completely changed. Heard someone on a D4 beta discord ranting about how common legendary items are and how it will ruin D4.
Also, as a second opinion, I think that everything g was toned up and more rapidly scaled than what we will eventually see and that the current leveling and power scaling will be less steep. Being level 25 before the end of act one in a 4 to 5 act game just seems too rapid to me. I think it will be another case of the beta testing the system rather than the final product.
Strange, I’ve seen quite good reviews of Diablo 4 from damn near every channel I watch. I have heard balance issues with like the Drood etc. But it’s only BETA so that’s to be expected. I heard they addressed the server issues after a few hours on day one. And over 900,000 people were simultaneously playing. So they definitely got some great Data. Truth is we just don’t know yet. The End game is tell all for ARPG’s. I think every real player knows that.
I hated Diablo IV from posted videos before beta because it reminded mi so much Diablo III. Once I got my hands on it in open beta I was really surprised. It reminded me more like a mix of Diablo and Diablo II which is really great. So not sure if the title was a clickbait or some shit but definitely gonna buy the game. Damn you can even run it on integrated graphics very well lol
Meh, I enjoyed it.
I think diablo 4 has good graphics, decent gameplay and just SUPER boring spells, I love necromancer in D2 but they just cannot get the necromancer right ever since. The necromancer spells are just really freaking boring and just suck. It’s not worth the 70$ they’re asking for. Maybe $40? but nothing more honestly.
Jesus Christ no more Ridge Wallets. Why does every youtube title have to be Negative.
Looks fun to me and the art looks really cool.
No, they don’t.
It looks stupid..
D4 is less casual than D3. Its a mix between D2 and D3 in more than just theme. Not sure I understand the complaints.
My main concern is is level scaling. It’s great to go to a new area and things are tougher but if you then go back to a previous level that you destroyed and it’s just as hard then you feel like you got weaker and not that the world got harder which kinda sucks.
I think the key to longevity is to make the game playable. Broken audio at least through headphones and lag so bad I just turned it off 30 minutes in getting to the hub town. I really hope they allow you to have a private game at some point if they are going to thrust other players into your game. Don’t get me wrong, I love other diablo players, in their game. Consistent crashes when in Kyovashad. And this is common when you have semi MMO elements in games like these. Maybe you can turn this off in settings I don’t know. I had only a few hours to play the beta because of real world circumstances but I was still really excited to play. I didn’t have time to mess around with the settings and maybe there were some things I could have done to alleviate it. Sorry but I didn’t feel like deep diving into settings and trying to make things work with what little time I had. Was a bit disappointed but that’s not a new feeling and it is a beta after all.
Well, I think it seems pretty sweet… it’s not a cartoon and finally feels like a modern Diablo should.
Devs gave up at this point. They try new things pple hate it, they build on the old things pple hate it. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. Can’t remember the last time creators appreciated a game.
This will be interesting to watch especially considering all the changes Diablo 3 went through over the years.
Lol…Blizzard could make it rain gold and entitled cave dwellers wouldn’t be happy…
I just wish I had a PS5 for the game. It’s so slow and laggy on the PS4.
Who is everyone? A bunch of people who won’t let go of the past or people who play indie arpgs and think they know what they’re talking about?
I loved the beta 🤷♂️
I really don’t like the back tracking of the dungeons. From what we have now in the game the dungeons are by fare the worst part. The events and quest are fine but knowing that Dungeon running will be the main active in the game, I personally will way to buy the game after a saw some ppl play in the end game and see what it feels like.
Trying to give Diablo 4 a pass for not being engaging and deep is never going to work.
I don’t overthink gaming anymore at the ripe age of 40. The only requirement is have is “is it fun?”. If yes then I’m playing because I don’t have time to worry about endgame or itemization etc. My time is limited and I just want to have FUN.
D4 is fun.
From what i did. I played the class i would likely not play (sorcerer) and i loved playing that. It made me want to play more with the class i would least like to play… it was the turning point back to preordering it cause it can only ggo up from there and i loves playing it
i am a average human. My name is even Joe. I thought all these things while playing the beta without outside influence. Im just now looking into what people thought of the beta.
Just the same game feels like I’m playing a game made by rockstar lol
Thats the thing. You have those hardcore streamers who will bitch about the smallest things in the game, the smallest error. I really liked D4 and I streamed few times myself on my channel, but its really annoying when you see other streamers that complain about class thats weak when they play it (beacuse they dont know how to play the class). Just because someone streams games for 8 hours a day, doesnt really mean he know how to play it. Asmongold is a prime example how not to play druid. He maybe good at WOW, but when it comes to D4, he is newbie, like all of us at this point. And then he is ranting entire stream how druid is weak. Pathetic. I stopped watching him after he rage quit from WOW because other player has better gear than he got. Like he is fuckin five. Anyway, I really enjoyed D4 and I dont really care what anyone else say about it. Me and my mate we had ton of fun playing together and we will continue doing so after release.
i really think the game is made for casuals, played sorcerer last weekend and literally onehsot fucking everything, i used 2 potions for the entire act1 or whatever its called now.
and yet i was giga stoned
moreover lvl20 and i got full fucking set of epics, wtf is this shit
Look better than D3 skill tree Is a big deal
I tried the previous Diablo games and I didn’t really enjoy it at all.. but Diablo 4 looks interesting I’ll give it a shot
pretty much disliked diablo 3, never played diablo 1 or 2 but arpgs are my favourite game genre, this diablo 4 seems perfectly polished in most of the areas (except balancing) so i was pretty hooked about it, combat feedback, audio engine, etc..yet i’m really really worried about longevity and endgame, which was absent in diablo 3
Clickbait
diablo4 is perfect diablo game for me 🙂
Everyone hates it because there is no transgender, rainbow flags, LGBT or character pronouns. Blm, It’s something we needed.
Will never support a Blizzard game again, simple as
i like D4 and i hated the first two. But how about we wait until the full game comes out before we start shitting on it. Dont listen to these people play the game for yourself then decide.
this feels like the kind of game you play once and then never touch again
I’m loving D4 🔥
I think the really big difference is this is a fourth entry in an already established franchise and not a brand new genre tackle like WoW was. sure they’re shoving mmo elements in but people are still gonna look at it and compare it to its contemporaries like d2, d3, Last Epoch, PoE and lost ark. Something that I find fascinating with ARPG’s is that even when the games are dated graphically, people will still flock due to finely tuned gameplay elements and unique mechanics. Its why we still see people playing PoE and d2 all these years later, hell Titan Quest even had a revival. So when we see the people who are not only passionate about the genre, but are well versed and can speak about D4’s shortcomings with such accuracy I think its a cause for concern.
Oversimplifying is what kills games like this long term
I played 44 hours over the last 2 weekends and i have to say, that its the best game i have ever played. To all the haters: Go cry in the corner of your room and develop your own game if you dont like it : ). For this masterpiece i dont care paying 100€ on console for the deluxe edition. 🥺🥺😉😉
Hey Beta is beta, Blizzard gonna fix those anyway. I love this D4, same as i did for D3.
I liked everything about my experience with 1 exception…for OP reasons I see no reason to play anything other than a necromancer. It’s so much more powerful than EVERY other class.
Asmongolds opinion means shit to me, him and his penis rocket
im pretty sure POE has way more than 160k peak as many of the players using standlone launcher.
I hate. Hate. The new evade function, as a console-player. And I played Diablo 1 and 2 back in the days aswell. Diablo 3s evade, rolling backwards, as much as you want, is what I want in a modern ARPG. Being a more fast game. Not easier, but faster. D4 feels slow in comparison. I don’t want to need to play a rogue, I want to be able to play a barbarian or other class, that is fast.
It’s an MTX gambling simulator with a Diablo game attached. Of course we hate it and it deserves to fail.
SC2 days. Oh lort, sooo wong ago, so wong 😂
My view is the broken balance and bad dungion design and level scaling are deal breakers for me. and 2 of those are built in to the design and are not going to be changed. this is not diablo! this is imortals v2 Cash grab V2
Participated in open beta… this is the worst diablo game. Not worth a money blizzard is asking for at all. Not worth money at all TBH. There is nothing to carry forward pretty ok combat mechanic. Story is trash, itemization doesn’t make any sense, it is just a dumb slot machine, dungeons are straight boring, side quests meh at best, World bosses have the same mechanic/pattern with different textures applied on them etc. After few hours I couldn’t find the answer: why should I continue? There is no replayability in this game. The game at this point is pretty much finished. Nothing of the glaring boredom will be changed/fixed before the release. The thing that will be added is battle pass. I will just pass on it though. Thx for making enthusiastic videos though.
Probably the most positivity I’ve seen about this game in the comment section, it’s refreshing.
Everyone? Is this a clickbait channel?
the mmo part is a valid concern, the lord of lag is really worse.
People can say they hate it but they will still play it by the millions when it comes out.
D4 is an instant classic despite all these moronic vids
As a diehard fan of Diablo 2 who never really fancied D3. I’m stoked.
This game was way easier to get into than poe and I like that
Blizzard will mess this up. It is in their altered DNA. I am sorry, but I will judge based on looks. Just look at their development staff; soy latte, body piercings/tattoos all over and pink/purple/blue hair. That is all the evidence you need.
Blizzard is a zombie, and has been for years.
Always with your mega shill takes, didnt even comment that the difficulty of the game is pathetic just says “Class balance”
You always agree with blizzard and claim they are doing the right thing with “this game”
Every monster has unique attacks that you should be aware of preparing for end game, this 1shot early difficulty is disgusting.
He is really comparing more than 10 years old PoE with its stable 180k players which is Free-to-Play btw, with AAA Diablo 4 made for masses and is payed 70 Euros for?? Really?? I totally get the Blizzard’s targets, but you can’t overlook many bad things. And especially smaller things like font, network stability, and some weird bugs. This title should be polished it that matter first place for it’s price. Those are kind of weaknesses of smaller games, but that you can excuse because of smaller budget. D4 is in development for almost 8 years and they have 5 different fonts on one screen??? NO, that’s not what I’ll excuse….and so on so forth…
Ngl as someone who enjoyed wow at any point throughout the last 10 years, i can’t stretch enough how little the opinion of some angry single dude in his mid 30s on the internet should matter.
I love Diablo 4, I honestly don’t understand all the hate.
When RAID Shadow Legends first came out I was impressed by the graphics for a phone game, but saw the sans-serif font in a fantasy setting and it was an instant dealbreaker. Total immersion breakage for me. 🤷♂️
I think your comments about hardcore gamers hating on new games are pretty spot on. Myself and friends played the Guildwars beta. When that was over and we would have had to pay, many of the Guildwars players were saying “back to World of Warcraft” when they signed off on the last night. This prompted me to go grab WoW and a couple of copies for my sons… we played WoW exclusively for about 5 years with an extended group of friends and many new friends we met in the game. I think hardcore folks and Internet “manners” in general always skew towards negative views on new gaming releases. You definitely are not doing wrong taking these initial takes from others with a grain of salt and being very, very skeptical.
The biggest issue i have with 99% of the critiques is it’s only act 1. We don’t know what end game dungeons are. We don’t know how different builds will be and play at end game.
We literally only know level 25 builds, level 25 gear and act 1 dungeons. For all we know dungeons could be insanely different in act 2, act 3, act 4 and end game. I’ll withhold my own judgement till i actually play the full game not 25% of a game. It would be like critiquing POE’s dungeons based off act 1. It makes no sense.
Story and its presentation so far is the best of any diablo game – or any Blizzard game in a long time, the world feels great, i love the skill system, the look and feel of all the classes, the moment to moment gameplay, the mmo elements they introduced, the gear system (from what we saw of it so far) and all the little characters and voice lines and other worldbuilding details the have all over the place. But oh no, my druid does less damage than the other classes at this random low-level point in a beta – I guess the game’s trash forever.
I dont hate D4
Story telling is extremely well made
Gameplay is great and all
But…. WHAT did they do to my boy druid man ?
he fucking sucks xD
I played the beta… I had a blast. But I absolutely agree about the level scaling. I found myself hitting so much less hard as I approached 25, using more and more health potions (even when dodging teleporting spacing etc). My attack eating and dps kept going up and up… yet I was feeling weaker and weaker. This bugged me, but then oddly I also kind of enjoyed the increase in challenge as I got better in the game. It was a double edged sword… definitely needs balancing. But idk how they’re going to do that.
1 chapter in and people going crazy 😂
well im still love this game.
The one thing that really kinda ruins it for me is the level scaling. When I look at the “core” of what makes a Diablo game fun, it’s not the combat, or the spells, it’s the feeling of progression I get when playing the game. That feeling of how much stronger I am now than I was a few hours ago, or the day before. That doesn’t exist at all while leveling in Diablo IV, and only kicks in at level cap. I go to bed friday night knowing that I do less damage and take more damage than I did when I started playing that evening, and that feeling sucks. Really makes me wonder why I’m evening killing mobs and clearing dungeons if all it’s doing is making me do less damage. I get that this problem goes away at level cap, but I’m really dreading the leveling experience if this stays. I may just have to “bribe” someone to level me to cap so I can actually enjoy a sense of progression.
dude d4 is way better then d3 imo
Nothing revolutionary or new at all. Nice sound. Graphics ok. Game play exactly the same
Played a few hours this weekend, sorc and druid.
– it looks great
– it sounds great
– it played great most of the time
But:
– the UI looks cluttered and not so pretty
– balance of the classes seems off indeed. Sorceres was super easy compared to druid
– the fact that everything scales with your level doesn’t really give a sense of progression.
D4 feels like a dumbed-down ARPG mobile experience. Boring.
Game is decent
I played the Open Beta and had fun, but it lacked something. Actually it lacked a lot! I tried three different chars, the Rogue, the warlock (arcanist? wizard? The spell slinger, you know what I mean) and the Barbarian in that order. What got very obvious after a while was the difficulty levelling which was just off after a while. At first it feels great. You can fast track the main story and not have to worry about being under leveled. Great! But it also means that no matter how reckless I am everything is always about the same difficulty. And that’s just whack!
Then there’s the leveling. So I go up a level, now I get to customize my char, select point distribution for the attributes and select and upgrade skills, right?
Well not quite. Sure you have a pretty interesting skill tree with a lot of skills to choose from and way few points to spend, one per level. So that’s not that uncommon, but the incredibly large amount of skills to choose from makes this somewhat agonizing as you really have to choose carefully. Sure you can respec, but that’s not something I like to abuse. I think that takes away from the feeling of spending the skill points. If there’s no respec option then your choices really means a lot more. I guess it works if respeccing is really expensive so it hurts some when doing it.
Bet all in all the skills system seems fine. My beef is with the attributes, as in we don’t get to have our say in how they are distributed. Sure it means we don’t have to think about balancing or min-maxing, but it also means we can’t really min-max. We can still build a glass cannon, but not by min-maxing the attributes but buy buying a skill that let us do more damage in exchange for taking more damage. But that’s not the same thing. Over all the attributes and how they influence you char is not very transparent. So far it’s been a total black box, and I have no idea what the attributes really change, or what it means when I get something like +5 in all attributes. It doesn’t seem to influence the hit points and I have no idea if it changes the damage output.
All in all I get the feeling the attributes are just window dressing, numbers for those of us who find number crunching interesting, but with no real feedback it feels meaningless. At least that’s how it felt for me while playing the beat.
And then there’s the weapons choices. My Rogue can either dual wield or use a ranged weapon like a bow or a crossbow. And you can load up both at the same time, but there’s no way to on the fly switch between them so you will either be rocking the bow or the knives, but you can’t start with the bow for long distance and switch to the blades for the close up work that inevitably happens. So you fight close combat with the bow…
Same with the Barbarian. They can have one two handed mace, a pair of blades, maces or hand axes for dual wielding, and a twohanded bladed weapon. But at least as default the game will use the weapon with the highest damage output. At least that’s how it has worked so far. Which is great as it means you make the most possible damage right?
Wrong! Or at least it is wrong if the game use the most common game logic which goes something like; If it’s bone bash it. If it’s meat slice it. If it’s a ghost magic the shit out of it. But without being able to chose the weapon on the fly you end up using the two handed mace on both the skeletal undead and the human criminals. Or if the two handed sword has better base damage we will be slicing the meat and carving at the bone…
So what about the dual wielding, you may ask. Sure there you can have a short sword in one hand and a single handed mace in the other. I think. Because I have so far never seen the game choose the dual wielding option even once for the Barbarian….
If all this about weapon choices seem whack that’s because it is. Now it wouldn’t surprise me if there is a way to switch between weapons, but I’ve poured over the key bindings and other game options without finding anything about swapping between equipped weapons. And they are equipped as I can see the large bash weapon, the two handed sword and the two one handed weapons on the model. I just can’t use them effectively.
This release of Diablo is making the game play even simpler than D3. You don’t have to think as the game is doing everything it can to take the thinking out of it. Level up?Slap that single point into a skill of your choice and get going with the digital slaughter.
As far as graphics goes D4 is a real step up over what D3 was. But it’s not the bast looking game I’ve seen. Still if the rest was fine the graphics would certainly be fine. Unfortunately the rest is not fine! In addition to the problems with leveling and the over simplification the level design is often very repetitive. You see the same elements used over and over and over again.
This is something I saw the whole time in Path of Exiles, and it felt stale there. D3 also had this problem. And I don’t think there’s a single random dungeon or map in the game. This was something they had in the original Diablo and in D2. While not every map was randomly generated most of them were and that kept you on your toes.
And now I have to get some sleep. The weekend is over and if the Beta isn’t offline by now it can’t be many hours left. I played way to much this weekend. And even after I figured out what I disliked about it I still had fun power bashing through the game at breakneck speed. But I’m not going to buy the game, at least not as it look and works now.
claustrophobic
I haven’t played yet because gameplay seems so slow when I watch videos of folks playing it. Is there anything to this is or is it just me?
Ive actually been enjoying game got both the sorcereres and Necro to level 25. Didnt get the chance to face the world boss rimming was to random for me.
Well, it seems it’s blowing up certain 3080 cards like New World did, so I hope they fix it prior to full release or A LOT of people will be give it a bad review indeed.
I find D4 is basically just D3 with some changes and acouple different classes.. although I’ll wait til the games out and I see more of the story and mechanics are out but the story didn’t grab me like D3
You know Diablo IV is bad when athe queue of the Open Beta (no purchase needed) on a saturday 7pm in NA is non-existent
To your point. I think the biggest difference is PoE has LASTING appeal. Everyones biggest complaint of D4 is Depth, and content you progress towards, and itemization you work towards.
The way D3-4 design their game, you essentially have a fully realized character within early endgame. And then you’re just working towards getting slightly better versions of the items you already have. Most people quit that style of game vary quickly, and some never return, cause they always know what to expect.
This was the case with D3, and that’s ultimately what we’re worried about.
WoW lived on cause it’s a MMO. And MMO’s are pretty simple in nature, what keeps them going is group content, slow progress towards upgrades, and new content.
Very different from an Arpg, where the main content in the game, is the development of your character.
i wouldn’t say 4 out of 10. its pretty good but needs a lot of work and wouldn’t be surprised if it gets pushed back for more polishing.
I am hyped about the plot. I want to see what happens beyond Act 1. I had a lot of fun and intend to play the hell out of it when its released.
Thanks for your review. I really enjoyed it and you got a new sub from me. I really enjoyed diablo 4 this weekend. Ive been really surprised with the game as i wasnt expecting much from blizzard.
Agree with everything except the SC2 comparison. SC2 has an incredibly high skill ceiling. To call it a dumbed down version of command and conquer is really doing SC2 a disservice.
Diablo 4 after as many reworks as it has received… is actually pretty legit. It’s very enjoyable to play it and experience the little portion of the game we get to experience in the beta. I for one will admit there are areas that still need improvement and time to bake fully before being released, skills and the skill tree in general are at the top of my “wish it was better list” but this is just a beta and I am hopeful this is not all there is to it upon final release. I wish they would make the map generators more randomized and interesting to explore.
That all being said I think the beta as is shows a promising game that will hopefully receive far better servers, doubtful as this is given two months till launch and it being blizzard. I for one am excited for the game however and will play it through fully regardless.
On a side note I think anyone complaining about the font in the game is honestly just mental.
No games will ever satisfy these guys 🙂
There are a number of fair criticisms and concerns about the game, but they’re almost entirely undermined by nitpicky shit like “the UI is bad and they need to throw it out”. Hilarious that Llama made that particular comment, since he’s a D2 purist of the highest order and the UI is almost identical. Let’s be honest, D2 is a fantastic game but it isn’t perfect. And for the folks who won’t settle for anything other than D2, the great news is that there’s a remaster sitting right there. No one is making you play anything else.
I think I’m just tired of most of the ARPG streamers. The only one I like still is DBrunski.
Dude D4 is Great I loved D3 and what I played of the beta I really enjoyed it I want to keep playing but I can’t progress anymore so I’m going To wait until release. plus it’s a new game they will fix everything D3 didn’t Lauch in the best state but over time became one of my favorite games of all time so I’m all for this game And I’m Gonna Buy The Deluxe Edition Hand’s Down
Diablo 4 just feels like they tried to take Lost Ark’s gameplay, PoE’s talent tree and Diablo Immortal dungeon generation, and mash them together into a new game. Maybe it has future potential but the beta underwhelmed me. D3’s beta (only being able to play up to Skeleton King) was lame but at least it left you wanting more, this left me feeling like I don’t care.
Oh god lmao
Llama’s a huge dbag
Lack of cinema for me so far. Take diablo 3s skeleton king fight. You remember that first time he woke up? That wasnt the act boss. I didnt even realize i was fighting a special boss for diablo 4s beta act 1 boss until something dropped in and it was memorable in that id seen it in 2 mmos before.
Then theres the difficulty increase when you form a party. Have a good build? It may not be the second you join a party…
Skills are all right but right now id expect a lot of changes before id even begin to verdict. Some spectacle but some skills are kinda weak or dont work or add anything you dont get earlier. Like the difference between fireball and meteor.
But… it is a beta. They may be faking us out for the full game.
Played wow for a year when it came out, quit and never looked back. Still playing D2D2RPD2 to this day. Played D3 since it was on Nintendo Switch until D2R came out. Played D4 this weekend, never looking back. It seems another boring D3 copy with darker graphics.. is not for me.
D4 is okay in my poor opinion but for 70$ game i was expecting something else… Kinda got bored from after 5 hours to be fair also lets not forget Activision greed. Battle pass, paid cosmetics and who know how much more monatization there is gonna be.
What the heck the game is in beta testing, wait a year I can assure you everything will be ok
5/10 for me. The UI is copy pasted crap from D3 (arial fonts? all items take up the same space? give me a break, looks like a Microsoft word document). The music is too generic and doesn’t capture the Diablo essence (though it has a few decent moments), the level scaling is REALLY stupid and ruins the entire motivation to develop your character, the dungeons also repeat themselves. It’s just not groundbreaking, nor does it “feel” like Diablo. It feels like a copycat to other modern arpg’s with a lot carried over from D3, rather than what this franchise used to stand for, which was THE standard with a powerfully distinct style around it.
With that said, the art and graphics, story, combat, and skill tree are all strong. But that’s not enough for me. Not with Diablo. Diablo has too high of a standard, and Blizzard just can’t meet that standard anymore.
I’m not a fan of so many cooldown skills (just make them more expensive to use and/or less powerful, cooldowns suck). I also have no issues with the MMO side they’ve added, though if MMO makes level scaling mandatory, I say to hell with MMO. More fixed scaling is desperately needed.
I’m definitely pumped for DIV! The thing that upsets me most is that it’s still like 3 months away. I just wanna no-life it nowwwwwwwwwww
this is what happens when u treat your employees like dirt!
Path of Exile 2 will be the D4 killer.
shits like a boring mmo but worse with the mad cutscenes
I literally have only heard good reviews from everyone playing the beta
Fact is, without the voice of these top players, blizzard would serve up complete bullshit and get away with it. I’m not pre-ordering and won’t even buy D4 on full release day one purely based on principles. Blizzard don’t deserve your money, make them earn it.
In my honest opinion, the problem I have with reinventing the wheel with ARPG games (especially Diablo) there’s simply no need, so much has already been done. Diablo 4 feels more like a sequel to Diablo 2, the mechanics just feel right.
I don’t want another reinvented game, I want a Diablo game that feels like what I LOVED from Diablo 2, and this game hits it to the T.
I also kind of think that the legendaries early on are going to become rarer.
When max lvl is 25, you want to see some LEGENDARY items. I would be depressed just getting garbage items, I want to see what the Legendary mechanics are like.
I also think there is plenty more polish planned for the final game, plenty more RNG enhancements, gear enhancements, and tbh I’ll laugh when there’s some new gear mechanic we haven’t even seen for all the whiners. That’s my thought, remember it’s BETA they don’t want to reveal EVERYTHING in the BETA!
It needs diablo 2 gore….
I just loaded up the open Beta today, and it’s quite buggy but the gameplay is solid enough, reminds me a bit of D2. D4 will do well and it will be around and played for years to come.
Disgustinggggg games..kill stab wtch games..God hate that muchhhhh..
The class balance is most baffling to me. As a software developer, the decisions from a systems desing perspective makes me want to question why the gap in players experience vs. developers is so different. You’d think internally the gameplay/class design team would have Q&A testers that check for balance and someone who is familiar enough with systems design to forsee the obvious flaws in some character designs in relation to other systems design, such as the enemy design. Some of it just doesn’t make sense and I had to constantly stop confused and wonder how did a system like that get a pass in the current iteration. The devs really need to sit down at the table and think things trough.
So basically Blizzard is doing what Blizzard does…. Meh modern gamers suck period. Entitled, toxic, know it alls, douche bags…I’m not surprised at all by this… Remember this game is DIABLO and is all about repetition and these ppl are complaining about just that? Wtf did you expect? Or are they just upset they can’t fart and become an instant level 25 with a friend power leveling them? “Hardcore gamers / nerd influencers” need to realize that these games are more geared towards casual gamers now. Ya you got the hardcore mode I guess but that’s about it. Most of us don’t give two shits about many of these things because we actually have a life.
On ps5 works flawlessly, about ps4…. A total joke. Yes I have both. 😢
I think alot of people just want payback for Diablo Immortal
who gives two fucks about ridge? i promise here that i will never ever buy shit from them.
Always online to justify their battlepass bs is pretty lame, I understand Free to Play games having a battlepass that you pay for but a $70 game having that… Come on… This is a joke right?
The glaring issue here is we only got to level 25. We didn’t have access to unique/sacred/ancestral gear, helltides. higher world tiers, paragons, etc, etc. Way too early for reviews imo. Personally, I wished for a WoW-like Diablo years ago and got it. I love it and will be enjoying the shit out of it in June.
The game is still in beta. Everyone who thinks they know the game need to chill out and shut up till final release. Damn crybabies
Overall I would say the game is good not great but good. It feels a lot like Diablo 3 so if you liked that I don’t know why you wouldn’t like this. The one thing they really need to address is power scaling for sure Necro starts OP and continue to get more OP as you level while the druid is the total opposite the simplest fights are a bit of a grind
In my honest opinion… it was just a beta. Nothing is completely refined yet and there’s things they’re going to work on. I think the story line so far is fantastic, the voice acting is amazing, and the music? Just hits RIGHT. When you put time into a really good story line, you nail the music that helps you stay immersed and voice acting is just the cherry on top… I could care less if the dungeon generation is kinda the same all around. I’m going to absolutely love this game, and I’ll embrace flaws because that’s what gives a game character. Call me crazy, but I enjoy things for what they are.
Technically, it was ‘what Warcraft was to Dune II.’ They didn’t realize we were making C&C until they saw it at a show. The story goes that Dwight was demoing the game for a couple of people while a group of guys in suits were watching. After the couple left, one of the suits commented, “You know, your Command & Conquer looks like a lot like our Warcraft.” To which Dwight responded, “That’s funny, your Warcraft looks a lot like our Dune II.”
It’s pretty boring but people will still buy it cause it’s a safe hack and slash game.
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insanely disappointing with d4 what a feckin disaster. i never would have expected it to be this shallow boring dull awful game design. yea it looks amazing but fuck me a day and im already bored. Every dungeon was click 2 things open door kill boss. Class tree’s are boring this whole game is just insanely boring i cant believe it i really cant… the shared world kills it, the world quests are wow dailies leglalos2020 running up and killing your shit is not fun. Going to be a hard pass if it was like 30 quid yea 70? 90 euro gtfo.
I’m a console gamer n for me I really like Diablo 4 beta so far. The story about LILITH is amazing so far. Gameplay is fantastic but need some polishing.
I don’t get the hate for this game
This game is designed make you play forever and steal your life and soul. Hard pass. Companies have become much too greedy.
It’s not hate you’re hearing, it’s disappointment.
How many times can you be offered things that exist already elsewhere and pretend Blizzard just invented them and it’s a design revolution ?
Diablo 4 is really good. I don’t know what you’re complaining about
D3 is better than D4 hands down. I was playing the D4 beta today and jumped back into D3 for comparison and it was apparent that Blizz are going backwards.
I don’t hate diablo i hate Blizzard and I won’t support scammy companies
I have zero intention of buying this trash. And Ive been a fan of diablo since 96′.. the streamlining, and monetization is far too disappointing
honestly my only complaint is the level scaling, it literally ruins it for me, my favorite thing is feeling stronger but I only felt weaker and weaker
Really good take
While I agree with most of the critique d4 beta is getting, I also find most ‘influencers’ are acting as childish spoiled brats.
It’s only a public beta…
Blizzard is known for their polish and long period of updates after the games released. Just compare sc2 with release date and now.. d3 release and now..
Sure, Blizzard has gone through a lot of change recently… so, I guess we’ll have to see.
I don’t know what to think of it. I enjoyed the beta but I can imagine most of the problems already:
– What will be the end game? Will it be replaying chapters, running custom maps/zones or a hybrid?
– Balance: I played druid, barb and necro and I got to say: melee combat felt like complete garbage. My shapeshift druid/barb struggled with everything while my minion/corpse explode necro decimated everything and their mother to oblivion
– Networking/Always online. I had MASSIVE rubberbanding problems in the open world while having the amount of people I met in the overworld being counted on 2-3 hands. Max. Why? I mean we all know why, but jesus can’t we just opt in and out of this? There is no reason I struggle in battle, flip flopping from one part of the screen to the next because Blizzard can’t handle networking properly
– Support/DLC/buy able content. The game is already 70 dollars, and it felt…. At some point cheap. Most enemies were upgraded models from D3, UI felt a hybrid between console and mobile. Granted, controller support was superb but sometimes felt hard to check my buffs/debuffs without swapping to my mouse.
That being said, what will the future bring? The ingame shop was not included but Diablo Immoral was released…. 8 months ago? We can’t just forget about the micro transaction shitshow that was. Will we get constant support like they do with PoE? Will it be up to standerd or just lazy leagues like they did with D3 for the longest time?
Or will they come in paid bundles like battlepasses/seasonal bundles that you can only enjoy fully when you buy them? Or will it be cosmetic only (suuuuuuuure Blizzard) and will they fill the gaps between expansions with decent quality seasonal *free* content?
I’ll be waiting with giving Blizzard money untill the game is out for a couple of months and they show their true intentions with the game. If they do an EA and add horrible micro transactions a few weeks after release, they wont get a dime. If they’ve proven that they actually learned from past mistakes and mean well, sure I’ll buy the game. It’s good so far and I had a blast during the beta.
But I’ll never buy the story that “The old Blizzard is back” untill they’ve redeemed themselves. They burned me way to many times, and recent events still prove otherwise
Everyone hates Diablo IV? not true…i like it.
I hate the game, I don’t think D4 is even worth 20$, let alone 70$, loooool!!!
I played for about 3h, after 30 minutes I started skipping all dialogues and cutscenes, I just can’t listen to that dumb, generic and uninspired story anymore. Every NPC treats the player-character like the van of the problem-solving business has arrived. xD For the items I just look at the green number, and my necro ran around with a zweihander. And the skills, I think there’s even less variety than in D3? Less skills with less “runes”. The skills feel all similar, like, I think necro has like 3 different bone spears and then 2 more skills that shoot in equal manner, as core skills. Boring skills that differ in color. Yet due to the lack of diverse skills, but neatly categorized in core and defensive (etc), Blizzard’s just spoonfeeding us builds as if players were too dumb to figure them out themselves. And these skills have so much AoE, they evaporate whole screens of enemies in seconds. I played sorc with chain lightning, from lvl 3 the sorc has access to a self-aiming spell that jumps around 10x. I just clear everything with it with 1-2 casts, it’s really, really boring. Lots of enemies however pop up from thin air, or fall from the sky. Which is so dumb. SO DUMB.
The beta is still running, isn’t it? Well, I uninstalled already, I’m playing something else, a game that in my opinion isn’t as dumb and isn’t treating it’s players like morons. After how disappointing D3 was, I knew I wouldn’t touch D4 unless I could test it for free. It looked more promising, but then turned out to be like D3, even like a DLC for D3. I can’t wait for PoE2. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I think players are gonna watch videos with which opinion they agree with. So on a positive video there’s mostly positive comments, and on negative videos mostly negative, as well as the blizzard forums. Everything nicely biased. In my opinion the game is really crappy. I wish it were better. But it’s as bad as D3.
Not a bad title thus far, however it feels as though something is not quite right…Can’t place it
lol – because blizzard is trash – expecting diamonds from a shit pile is stupid.
Diablo 4 or diablo 2 isn’t aRPG. Thay are a h&S. Witcher 3 is a aRPG.
I thought it was okay.
D4 has not delivered what fans have wanted since the smash success of LoD. It isn’t that hard to figure out people want runewords and a cool crafting system via the cube. They do not want a D3.5, Lost Ark, Immortal hybrid.
Lost ark i mean diablo 4 is amazing and feels great. all the people bitching about little things i just find funny esp when its coming from D2 heads that cant move on.
Unfortunately your comparison to older games is a little flawed – we get what you’re trying to say though – however Blizzard already released two of these games prior, of which are critically acclaimed to be the best versions of these genre of games and to some are debatable as the best of all time. Therefore they set their own bar. Should the situation have been this was Blizzard’s first foray into the market place then all of what you’re saying is fair. The reality is, ‘Diablo’ players were disappointed in Diablo III and they want a true successor to Diablo I and II, simple as that. If Diablo IV is not that then Blizzard is wasting their time, as there’s plenty of casual friendly ARPGs already that do it better.
Sorry, I stopped after I seen the Kripp link, that guy is such a douche.
I do think it sucks that Blizzard hasn’t made a new class for Diablo 4. The classes they have are cool but we’ve seen them all in D2 or D3 and I think it would of been to have a new class on release to play as with new perks and skill. I guess they will add one in an expansion or dlc or something.
I didn’t get hooked by D4 tbh. After 2 hours, no boss fights that had a particular fight style. Feels like always shooting the same monsters over and over. There are no Blood Raven, Grisworld or even Andariel. Feels like you have to play 5-10 hours to get to an interesting fight. Feels like D3 more than D2. Amazing graphics though, was stunned about that.
What? Clickbait? Most of the people like it dafuq ur talking about
It´s at least a step forward from D3, love the skill system, sure its not Last Epoch or PoE but its still an improvement, more D2-like. I also like how all classes feel different, which they don’t in other Action RPGs, just different skills and character model but the exact same gear setup (looking at you PoE!) and kudos for still letting us fiddle with the characters (Looking at you Last Epoch!)
still, it didn’t hook me very much and with how things are going over at ACti-Blizz, eeeeeeeeeeh. ill probably pass on the game. Maybe pick up the “complete” version in 5 years, maybe the company is less fucked up then…. maybe.
Why the fuck did the .make the druid fat
I really enjoyed it so far. Will it be the best ARPG for the next decade? Maybe not, its up to the devs. Will it be a great game to play for a long while? Yes.
what was it old blizzard said? core gaming for everyone, sure they dumbed down and polished EQ to get WoW but they inervated to , it had a visison and its own identity .
D4 doesnt seem to have that inervation or vision, it feels like a greatest hits , they made a checklist of features people liked and tried to just whack it all ,its what you get when you take talent money time fear and a lack of creativity.
it was real boring work to get to 20 in the beta for me , im not willing to repeat that , hard pass for me
diablo 4 is not bad but def a lot of things I don’t like, class balances are needed, the UI compared to diablo 2 R was worse, binding abilities in diablo two was so easy and thoughtless here it’s kinda annoying (controller wise) and also diablo 2 had the ability to hold L2 trigger button allowing you to have a second set of abilities you could bind in diablo 4 i had to remove one of my abilities just to use the ultimate ability as not
enough ability spaces to bind . the dungeon tasks to open a door or something to progress the dungeon is not needed this is a looter game
so just going in fighting way to boss is all that is needed .
Not sure what people were expecting – Diablo gameplay was always a repetitive loop of, kill shit – loot – sell loot – kill more shit and level skills along the way…. and then just race gear level and skilltree against higher and higher resistance on monsters which counts as “difficulty”. Diablo 3 tried some different stuff and it was… shit. After Diablo 2 Reforged which was awesome nostalgia trip – I am really happy with Diablo 4, and will preorder. So far just 2 things are awful in Diablo 4 – lack of boobs on necromancer lady and that abomination of a model for female druid. Rest is fine.
imo it feels exactly like diablo 3 for combat, everything just insta dies.. i was hoping for some challenge while leveling or doing the story but from what we have played its boring. nothing really feels great
The game is good but way to easy. Items, drops and equipment all feel useless. Nothing holds any weight because it’s so unbalanced.
Blizzard made a good choice in not trying to make a game that would bring in the D2 diehards a la MrLlama, because that will never happen. They’ve been playing a 20-year old game which didn’t get any changes for something like 13 years. They’re set in their opinions. They’re not going to jump ship for anything that’s not D2:2. I no-lifed D2R after release until the beginning of 2023, didn’t plan on playing D4 at all but ended up getting into the first public beta (thanks KFC) last weekend and LOVED it. Story, graphics, environment, all s-tier. The difference is, **I didn’t go into the game trying to figure out what made it bad.** Among all the mainstay D2 content creators I’ve seen, only Llama was overall negative on the game, which surprised absolutely nobody. At least we got a good “this font makes it literally unplayable” meme though.
What did you expect? You were all dumb enough to buy something from blizzard when all they did was reskin Diablo 3 I honestly can’t believe you guys would consider buying something from a company who would tell you to just go buy a phone for their mobile version of Diablo the fact that you guys didn’t boycott them right then, and there is absurd to me
My opinion. Diablo 4 isnt worth $70+ or close. Minus the fact Og Xbox one vr is next to unplayable cause frames drops to like 2 doing most things.
It honestly just feels, underwhelming. Like I really like Diablo. I really like these kinds of games but well it doesnt feel like a sequel.
PoE has great n fun bosses, and alot of abilities.
Lost Ark has cool abilities, combos, and awesome dungeons.
But Diablo 4, the characters feel just like Diablo 3. But entirely it just feels like a Diablo 3 dlc. Ya it’s a beta but like it’s part or all of act 1 I forget which, but ya it honestly just feels like it’s a big Diablo 3 Dlc. Which sucks.
The fact the general resume always starts with “LOOKS FINE”, is all you need to know. Yet another graphics whoring garbage game made for non gamers.
This game is fucking dog shit. Nothing more.
deleted the game after 10min Beta its just not good and mtx will be crazy… mark my words
I don’t care about PeO, gameplay is just clunky and feels frozen, I really don’t understand why people think it’s setting any banchmark for ARPG, I think complexity isn’t enough for making a good game at all, especially when the gameplay sucks so hard
honestly after 2 days of beta I already feel like it’s diablo 3 all over again. Once you stop being hyped and stop being amazed about the graphism… And play with your playlist with sounds effect set up to 30% like you would do for games you already played… It feels like there is nothing new. But I hope I am wrong and the full game will be diffrent
I have played it for a bit… I liked it most of the time…. BUT… the town design. I think the shop, Armory, and all that, are too far apart. It will take forever to go to the item shop and then go to the armory. I can’t imagine playing coop. Towns should have every thing in one place like act 1 of D3.
D3 was my intro to the Diablo series and I fell in love with the game immediately. D4 isn’t bad, but I’m not getting the same feeling :/
Honestly all the stuff everyone is complaining about I see just as something that can easily be hotfixed and tweaked/fixed/updated, the core parts of the game, art, sound, story, gameplay (feeling of abilites and the impact/weight), social, all of it hits my cravings and needs for a game like this, played poe for a bit before only thing it has going for it was the in depth customization of builds besides that I genuinely believe POE sucks everywhere else and what stopped me from playing it in the long run.
My little brother asked me to play Minecraft dungeons and I mentioned to him there’s something similar but better and it’s called Diablo 4 . So Diablo 4 can’t wait
so the beta was rough? and had problems. That has got to be a first for a beta……
I don’t understand why they don’t have wasd from launch. It’s like they’re being over cautious because they think they will upset console players or silly purists?
D4 is not meant to be hardcore, obviously. If you want complexity and depth, Play PoE or Grim Dawn. If you want something somewhere in the middle, play Last Epoch or D2R.
I had fun, played sorceress and used blizzard, hydra, chain lighting mostly. I just hope it doesn’t become best to use all skills of the same element later on.
I did betas and the like for D3. Got annoyed on release with the servers. This time i will be doing none of that. No betas and just buy the game 2 weeks after release when hopefully servers are optimal…ish.
After about 80 hours between the two betas here is my take: The game isn’t revolutionary, and it does not need to be. It is a solid, enjoyable game, that I’ll absolutely be likely to sink 1,000+ hours into within the first six months, especially when it gets to seasons or playing characters with friends or dumb ideas with builds, or just streaming if I have the IRL tike to invest in that again as well.
The game is exactly what it needed to be, but nothing revolutionary, and that’s okay. I already love it. It’s better than many other things Blizzard has done recently, and feels much more like the devs enjoyed making it compared to some other games.
Full release could be different of course, but from what we’ve played between the betas, I’m down.
Edit: WOW that was a bad typo lmao. Misspelled invest.
Im not surprised people are rating d4 a 4/10 because theyre all comparing a lvl 25 beta to games like poe. A game that literally has 10 years worth of content and balancing patches on its back. I really enjoyed the beta and like the game for what it is. Looks like a really solid foundation to build on.
Also the people who are enjoying the game are probably busy playing it, so you obviously find more „bad“ crtitics on the internet.
It looks quite nice, the art team at blizzard always does really good work, but other than that it felt very underwhelming to me, very mobile game-y. Like Diablo Immortal, but a little better in some ways. Also, very uninspired on the quests and overall narrative.
I was considering pre-purchasing it before the open beta but now I will hold off on it. It smells like a barely passable game to me.
Shame, because I had high hopes.
Now with this weak showing grinding gear games has a great opportunity to come out on top with PoE 2. Here’s hoping they don’t screw it up.
Diablo series is ok , but you don’t need a brain to play it ! Mario is 100x harder to win at , not to mention Roblox ! They only implemented brain dead mechanics , that’s why I can’t fully enjoy the game . Because of this brain dead mechanics a ton of things in the game are also dead : leveling is a joke , 99% of gear / items are bloatware , 99% of mobs do 0 damage , you never feel the fear . This is why other games that avoid dead mechanics, like Fall Guys / CS Go / Fortnight etc ,are super simple but also super fun .
For long as they’ve had to work on this it’s not that great. I really don’t like how limited it is. You can use less skills then in d2.. It’s reaaly a better looking d3. Still would rather play poe.
D3+ at best, it needs work.
I’ve seen some really bad takes from some of the influencers. D4 is a great game, can’t wait for it to release.
As far as the Wow beating the other mmos. The winner is not always the best. FB beat Myspace as a crappier, less feature having version. FB still doesn’t have any of the superior features of Myspace’s massive customization options. Unreal Tournament was way better than Halo but chose to focus on the Unreal Engine (which is awesome, check out YT videos on UE5), while Halo got to pretend the silver is gold. People are fickle and love a fad. I’m going to go log into FB so I can see the badazz skulls background I have with the huge playlist of music on my jukebox and maybe play a game on my page or click a direct link to other sites I use. Aw snap, I’m thinking of Myspace, FB still has none of that 20 years later.
Perfect analyze.
I think people were expecting something really innovative and fresh. But what we have right now is just…a new arpg. Blizzard isn’t the same nowadays. Innovation costs money and time, if Blizzard was willing to invest those things and take risks, we also would have seen Overwatch 2 go in a more interesting direction.
Don’t care about fonts? That’s a paddlin’
WoW went gangbusters when it came out. Lost all my friend group to them playing it 24/7. Online loved it too, cause this was the hype-the-public-to-release-date and then release thing. Barrens Chat was “off the chain” (lol) and you could say whatever.
I’ve made it to lv 20 with my Sorc and right now the only thing that would make it more fun would be a defenseless copy of D3 to attack with lightning.
Diablow 4 does actually suck. Quite boring. Dungeons generation are poorly designed and repeat in a boring way. I literally fell asleep streaming it.
id rather keep playing d2r or poe than this poop
i used to respect what asmon had to say about stuff until he started reacting to everyones stuff. i unsubbed and asked youtube to not recommend his channel
Weaker when you lvl up? Ofcourse, it’s an arms race, you have to invest wisely or drop the difficulty. The games already too easy this is a silly complaint.
i love how everyone online was like, oh yeah world of warcraft was easy mode mmo, me after killing the lich king, 12 million subs hmm. it’s a shame they kinda dropped the ball on the game after that. and wouldn’t be good until legion again.
Internet users have been retarded since the dawn of time, of course.
Anytime anyone critiques the font, I dont want to hear anything else they have to say. It’s fine, please stfu. I went out in to the real world(once or twice) brought up the font and my coworkers and friends looked at me like…wtf are you talking about. My point exactly. Stfu about the font nerds, just stfu in general.
Legendaries were impactful on my druid, this is the best ARPG base ever.
People judging so much without seeing end game. I think kripp’s was maybe the best. But the community has been absolutely unbearable with the constant whining.
Meanwhile I really enjoyed playing it and i went from being extremely sceptical (about blizzard in general) to actually buying the game. But then i’m not that deep into ARPG’s. I only played D3 for a while and D4 seems more fun so far. My main issue right now is balancing; it’s not balanced correctly at all between classes; but they still have a while to work that out so its fine. Somehow from saturday onward there wasn’t even a real queue. Longest I waited was like 5 minutes. Now on sunday it’s just instant. Pretty good really
I have been playing a necromancer with skeleton warriors and mages. Necromancer has always been one of my favorite classes. The art direction and the story. It’s much better than diablo 3. The musical score and the ambience really adds to the game.
Walking speed seems slow I hope they adjust that combat is fun. I can’t wait too see where the game goes from here…
Problem: if you are new to Diablo, that’s a great game. So much worse out there. If you are a Diablo coregamer, even worse: since D1, it’s just no Diablo anymore. After having to CHASE and LOOK FOR enemies, I was so happy hitting level 20 and quit it. Skin saved and waiting for the summer sale offer. For 30, 40 $ it’s an “OK” Game.
Well it’s an open Beta. I have enjoyed it just playing a little. Don’t want to ruin the story.
Well my issues was as soon as i started playing i couldn’t block an attack no block button then i tried and tried and couldn’t use my bow and arrow and on top of that the enemies knew exactly where i was ..The AI feels like i was playing this on a ps2 …Its feels old .. I couldn’t surprise attack or use any kind of strategy .. Feels like an 80’s arcade game .. I was very disappointed
I played Diablo 1, 2 and 3. And i will play Diablo 4. At first I wasn’t a fan to be honest but then I played about 14 hours or so. Well I got into it 😀 Rogue level 25. Yes I like the game.
Let’s complain about unreleased features like the full game just dropped and the content sucks 😂 it’s a beta! Sure there are lots of things wrong but that’s the point of a beta. Tell blizzard so they can fix it. Now if they do their part and make the necessary tweaks and balances it’s going to be a great game. Now if they release a game that’s anything close to having the same issues the beta has, then you can trash them. I sure hope they get the networking down because forcing player 2 to jump in a queue after p1 has already been through it and constantly failing to join really sorted the couch coop I was trying out with my son. Also they need to add a pre game lobby!! Not being able to party before launching the game really sucks.
My biggest problem is since WoW, large corporate game publishers, have made basically ALL games TOO casual and too easy. I don’t want to run around and slay mobs with ease. If I’m not dying, I’m not being challenged and there is very little reward for me to play the game. In diablo 4, the simple fact that you fill your entire inventory with 50 rare / legendary items in one dungeon, and replace “Legendary” items every level or 2… doesn’t make them very legendary.
It’s a beta still and we are playing an older build , their input is absolutely meaningless 🤣
Still far better than D3 kid simple crap.
Also Reddit is worthless for info vs discord elsewhere, people are using trash info sources and repeating garbage from it .
what is the point of levels if you implement power scaling? that is the DUMBEST idea ever. it completely ruins the journey of leveling. i dont get the same fun feeling playing D4 I have with previous Diablo’s. I got bored so fast and was waiting on it to get better, i finally gave up after a few hours. I’m still trying to talk myself into giving it another try…
People don’t like Diablo 4 because we’re tired of being forcefed shitty microtransaction themeparks dude.
As someone who just wanted a classic diablo experience, I really liked it. The story, the game play, the design, it was super fun. I would agree with the maps and the level scaling though.
I knew from when the devs did that dumb talk to the community, and basically said the design of d3 is perfect but the execution needed some fixing- this game would flop. D3 at its core isn’t enjoyable, that’s why they had seasons and had to do like 30 of them to get your attention for a few hours. When you never break down how the game revolves around that sweet spot of gear to difficulty ratio, and how you’re always chasing that constant clearing of enemies rapidly… you never feel like you’re playing a game. Always feels like you’re heading to a destination nobody cares to be at for long.
I love it reminds me of D2 with some D3 parts the Necro is a lot of fun.
I only made it to 4:59. And this is why I will stick with D2R.
Know what is supper sad? No one has any concerns about the Story being narrated, the absolute laziest and worst way to tell any story. unless it was the Movie BigFish that was a Narrated story and how it should be done.
Sounds like damage control. I was interested in playing it. But the people I know that actually play Diablo decided not to play it. Because it apparently looks trash. Plus forced online?
Looks like it’s going to be an awesome game! I won’t be purchasing it because blizzard is pure evil, but I Will be pirating it once the cracked for offline play comes out from steam unlocked.
It’s still in beta. 🤦🏼♂️🙄
nah this game fun as hell. these dudes represent a super slim minority of ultra hardcore players who create content for a living aka dudes without real jobs …sorry force 😉
also they’re not “surprised”, they just know that negativity does better than positivity. just look at the title of your video 😉
I think it’s fun but at $70 is it doing much worth that price tag? No. I’ll wait on a sale.
My $0.02 on the WoW MMO thing, I was a hardcore MMO player before WoW and yes I do feel like WoW kind of ruined the MMO community. Before Wow, you were your character, and you had a reputation you built with other players, MMO’s back then didn’t allow for the most part, lazy, casual, bad players, to make it to end game. The leveling up was all about filtering out those people, and making a better player. WoW changed that and made it so pretty much anyone could make it to the end game, hell you could level hunter to cap naked besides your weapon. I really think this was the downfall of the MMO games, WoW trained everyone into wanting easy now. No one wants hard. Which fine, that is ok, but why do we still need to level up in MMO’s anymore when it really doesn’t matter. If it’s easy, and everyone can do it, just remove it.
Cool. Cant wait to see youre new channal. I have been here since starcraft.
until now game is awsome!! can’t wait for the release!!
I’m still not finished with D1, D2, and D3 so I have no desire to touch D4 as it does not seem like radically better than the previous ones. I’ll still continue to play the older entries until I feel like I’m done with them. Also does Diablo IV require you to be online to play it or to sign up in any way? If so, I may never hop onto it, because that’d be a dealbreaking change to a worse direction. I require D4 to be a completely offline singleplayer experience like the previous entries were. Also local offline co-op on same screen should be a thing like in the previous entries. If that’s not present, D4 is a step backwards.
I will judge this game in August or so, extrapolating from the Beta how good the entire game will be, is just hard and having fun for the first 25lvl doesn’t mean lvl 75-100 will be great.
I mean I get it… These people are no lifers that dedicate every second to min max and have a career around that sort of thing. I a father of 2 and husband who works went into this beta to check out stuff. I like Paladins and Necros, was sad that we dont have a Paladin on launch but I am assuming a later expansion… I leveled a necro lady to 25 and had a bunch of fun. The story seems cool and interesting. I did notice leveling a druid (feral) shit was a lot harder with bosses and some situations were sticky as I didnt have a bunch of minions and curses to crowd control… I am enjoying the beta… I am assuming that most are just enjoying to play and its only the career nerds that are upset that shit isnt ground breaking or something… I get it I do but really… Us older nerds who have families and not a huge twitch or youtube base to have a career having fun… Its like why you have to be mad? its just a game? It is to pass the time with friends and family and be in the diablo universe. Chill. lol
Uh, it’s really good. And I scrolled the comments for a minute or two on this video and couldn’t find any negative opinions *shrug*
the “as of level 25” seems like a really weird stance to take and emphasize… this is the Diablo team…
I’m loving d4 so far. First impression, it seems way better than d2 and d3
I would like if they dropped seasons for Diablo 4. Or at least introduce a good system to skip the campaign.
The beta has been decent. Nothing really innovative to draw me in though. Also, can’t forget the Diablo immortal practices that have me skeptical to say the least. I will wait and see what happens before I give them my money.
The comparison to to Wow’s criticism doesn’t fit, in my opinion. At the time, EQ had what? 500k subscribers? Vanilla WoW and TBC maintained 5-6 million subscribers. One could say that WoW’s massive playerbase was new to the genre. 80%+ of those players were playing WoW as their first mmorpg–that isn’t happening here with Diablo 4. The pre-existing aRPG demographic are largely Diablo players. Blizzard isn’t catering to an untapped market of millions of gamers with this offering. I think it’s a bad analogy. Which is not to say D4 will suck or that it will be great. I just don’t think mapping early reception to WoW by veterans of the mmorpg genre is appropriate for D4.
Holy shit man….someone who actually gets it. Breath of fresh air.
One of the best games I played recently, I had a blast in diablo 4 beta
ANOTHER blizzard ass kissing video, keep trying to get on that launch page like DB did.
I just started playing POE last month then I tried Diablo 4 and I was blown away with how good POE is.
I played the beta and got to level 20. Game
Is fantastic and huge, feels like Diablo 2 which was the best game but more in depth.
The forced multiplayer open world is cancer. Makes the open world feel cheap and over-used honestly game deserves a 4/10
Bro just delete this video do yourself a favor
I played the beta. My first time playing a diablo game, and I’m not big a fan of the dark aesthetics, but I had fun. The storytelling is captivating, and the cutscenes are really nice.
Sadly most of all negative review is just to attract views and like . Just play the game and enjoy. Adapt and learn.
Wait till Blizzard includes LOOTBOXES in D4….
My biggest complaint was the lack of inventory space and Druid feeling more like a weak elemental mage than a shapeshifter the damage was poor granted I didn’t have access to the spirit of boons passive buffs since it was locked for open beta but still such a unsatisfying experience playing a class that felt like I couldn’t do anything without help from my bro playing necromancer
Game is very good the way it is. The so called “Specialists/Streamers” just need clicks and you wont get them with “Oh its nice” – No, clickbait and negativity brings you up to speed and those sooo needed clicks. As soon as they invade the next upcoming game and leave Diablo 4 the players will have a great time as they will take their disciples with them.
Blizzard should implement some things from V rising since that game has been well received.
The game needs one more year. It’s unstable, it’s unbalanced and it needs polish. And it also needs a Single/Solo Player mode. I’ve played EVERY Diablo game TO DATE, when they came out. And I’ve also played every MAJOR ARPG on the market, including some really bad ones.
I have never played such a depressing “mage” class as in Diablo IV. Very disappointed
Nice clickbate. Definitely earned a dislike. Nobody gave it a 4/10.
With a level 25 Rogue, level 25 barbarian, level 20 Sorcerer, level 18 necromancer and a level 16 Druid, I can say it’s pretty fun…. Honestly they took the good parts from 3, evolved on them, and pushed it into 2. Then reimagined the graphics. It’s the successor I’ve been waiting for. Bugs yeah, but it’s a beta.
lol imagine people playing only the 1sr 2 acts of D2 on normal making sweeping judgment the “hardcore” arpg players want boring 1000 runs on a single boss crap in D4. D2 is great but it turns into a damn part time job once you hit hell.
to me the game is the best so far in the franchise as it is a huge step of progress and new changes. I see a lot more they need to do and tighten up but I think just like PoE they will get it there within time.. and then the full potential of this game will be just crazy, Just like PoE. It doesn’t need to be BETTER than PoE but it should be competingg with it and so far I think they’re on track.
I like it… but agree with every point you have. The combat is fun and that carries the entire experience. The dungeons are extremely repetitive and long though. At first they were fun but over time they became a chore.
Trying out the D4 beta for a bit almost got me to reinstall D3 instead of playing the beta. 😀 Granted, I didn’t play that much yet (only got to the hub city with my sorcerer then tried out the other classes up to completing the first dungeon) but to me it just feels… underwhelming I guess? Don’t get me wrong it is fun and if this was a new game from a smaller developer it would be good… but this is supposed to be Diablo 4, the newest entry in the famous, well-loved Diablo franchise and the most recent AAA game since over a decade. And for that it feels extremely lacking in my opinion. And it is my belief that we as players absolutely have the right to put higher expectations on a new AAA game of a gigantic developer and the next entry in a really famous franchise on top of that.
The player characters are so incredibly shallow that if you played a voice-less shadow figure (like in character selection in games where you did not unlock the character yet), it would make no difference story-wise or RP-wise. Gone are the distinct reactions and style of each class like in D2 and D3 and when you compare the voicelines side by side it is almost impossible to figure out which class you are listening to.
This coupled with the fact that the leveling experience is hampered by the extremely linear/shallow skill-tree and the weird progression (you only look forward to the level ups where you unlock a new skill category, inbetween that a level up is just a meager stat buff and that is tremendously boring).
Probably just a me-problem since many people seem to like the game, of course it always depends on subjective opinion but I do find it a bit strange how… timid and easy-going so many people are on D4, like they don’t want to admit the game’s problems because they want a good new Diablo game so bad and just see everything with rose-tinted classes and judge the game with a forgiving nature like it was an indie-project.
It seemed okay it just didn’t work. Spent more time logging out and then waiting in queue than playing the game. The game would despawn my minions and then not let me spawn new ones, and also wouldn’t let me change zones unless i logged out and back in
D4 feels shallow. ‘Casual’ feels like a cope for an underwhelming job.
I can’t see myself playing this long-term in its current form.
Maybe by the time expansions arrive it will be alot more fleshed out.
I just hope to god the paragon system isn’t minor stat increases, that would be tragic.
Krip that guy who played D3 for 2 months then disappeared for 10 years. Yeah I care what he has to say.
Everyone is playing D4 to leech views off a new game. If you aren’t Raxx or Wudi you have nothing to say about the beta.
Clickbait
I really appreciate this take. I am starting to become numb to the complaints of all of these other creators even though they are people whose views I normally respect. It just feels premature.
I think its pretty bad. Building off of 3 in terms of gameplay rather than 2 beyond just cheap esthetics was a huge mistake and disappointment even if not surprising
19 minutes of saying nothing with substance.
hi, a played d4,but i dont see to spend points in vitality ,intelect, str,etc…like in d2…
A whole lot of the complaining about D4 is just complaining to hate on blizzard. The reason those you mentioned all have legit critiques but in the end they all said the same thing, they had fun. In the end isn’t that what matters? I mean hell I plan on maining Druid still even after seeing how bad they are compared to all of the other classes right now. Why? While clearing and leveling, at least early on will be a bit slower, I am really enjoying how the class feels.
Yes. Like everything in this video was quite accurate to my pov here. Good video dude.
man i comeback to watch the video to watch the gameplay of PoE2, that looks amazing.
when werewolf doesnt have enough spirit for shred trying to use shred makes you stop everytime you click it… which made chasing enemies spamming claw and shred really annoying….
I don’t like the beta…. It feels that they have a lot of work to do and with a few months left i don’t that think they will launch the game as a polished product. Safe to say, i won’t pre order the game.
Pretty sure the 160k concurrent player in Poe is just on steam. There is the Poe client as well. I’m sure the number is quite a bit higher
How can you respect someone’s opinion when it comes to your own taste? It is sort of codependency and that is mental
I don’t care what “everyone” thinks of it. I like it so far
I don’t thing D4 is trying to compete or supersede games like Last Epoch or PoE. I think Blizzard is trying to change the path of the diablo series to be more like an mmo and mimic Lost Ark. Like they do with all their games, copy and refine. You also need to remember that Lost Ark didn’t seem to ever be released in the west when they announce Diablo 4. I think Blizzard wanted Diablo 4 to take that spot. There was no option for them to make an arpg, they knew that they didn’t stand a chance to compete in the classic arpg genre.
So far a level 20 Druid on the open beta. I’ve actually really liked the game so far. Can’t wait to see what Druid spirit animal attunement will be like.
the bosses seems so boring in this game… I was just like… Na it’s not worth my money at all
I remember all the forum conversations about WoW. And then it released and it took hold of my life. Grand Marshal baby!!!
Boring click bait by a person who isn’t even satisfied by an orgasm. So of course Diablo 4 won’t satisfy him
I’m a pretty strong believer that you don’t have to reinvent the wheel. Sometimes, just making a fun game that works as intended is just fine. Most of these issues are just problems that high end gamers are going to have with modt games. I’ll bet most casual players who played the Beta this weekend haven’t even noticed or cared unless someone told them they SHOULD notice and care.
Clickbait title… Everyone is extremely positive about it.
Really good game . I enjoyed a lot.
Blizzard used to make games that were 10-15 years ahead of their time.
Blizzard now makes games that are 5 years behind on everyone else.
The games are still fine, there’s just nothing setting them apart from other companies.
I have absolutely loved the beta thus far.
It’s a soulless, boring game. But to say it’s not beautiful and has some seriously awesome qualities is nuts also.
I was interested until I saw the price on the store and already know that it’s gonna have mtx, a battlepass and season pass since it’s by blizzard.
Makes me really glad I have zero attachment to that company because they absolutely fuck over you lot.
Finally a somewhat based opinion on the state of the game. I think it will do quite well with the greater audiance if blizz manages to fix the technical issues (especially rubber banding while zoning, which was a huge issue here in europe).
It is as you say, it’s certainly not hardcore but it is pretty okay for the most part, especially for someone who will playthrough the game once and forget it afterwagrds for the most part. Most ppl just don’t have the time to go as deep into games as hardcore/no-lifers.
Feels like it’s pretty good to me but it’s my first time playing a Diablo game
The devs did tweet that item drops were scaled up for the beta. You won’t be getting billions of legendaries at level 25 in the release. Also, legendaries are the new ‘rares’ in this Diablo. There’s another ‘tier’ now.
Played every major ARPG. Been playing them as an adult since their inception. Diablo 4 is pretty good. I really like it. I don’t care about little issues here and there. Things will get tweaked over time. Whatever.
I don’t hate Diablo 4, in fact I have no opinion on Diablo 4 one way or the other. What do have, however, is no desire whatsoever to play a Blizztard game ever again.
I thought it was great! People just complain too much these times. Its a great game so far.
I tried it this weekend and it’s a good casual game for now. Doesn’t feel like it’s a game I would want to spend thousands of hours with though. But I understand you, my opinion is irrelevant.
Anyway, at its launching price it’s not worth it to me.
Pff all these so called diablo fans sound like big cry babies get over it no game will ever be perfect but this game is straight fire story is dark again like u all wanted yet u guys cry like lebron all day it’s literally a beta u crying about a piece of the game not the whole game lol
I just can’t get into the combat. Not when we have Lost Ark. the skills in D4 look meh….
It’s activision, it should be despised.
If they hate Diablo 4 then they should stop gaming completely
It’s sad that game companies nowadays can survive off of nothing but polished rehash
I didn’t play D3 very much as it was still progressing through the release of the Acts. It sucked so much that the best stuff in the previous Act was pretty much obsolete in the next, and there wasn’t very much stuff to get in the first place. But I did play a lot of D3 after it was all complete and the Paragons were introduced. I reckon it will be the same with D4, except they have a ton of microtransactions and probably P2W boosts like DI on the mobile. I know better now, so I’ll wait it out while the “pros” tough it out. Will probably also be cheaper to buy the game later on. I’ve still got a lot of stuff that I bought on Steam during the Christmas sale to play. Believe it or not, I’ve only just started playing Skyrim for the first time, and that is really going to take up a lot of my time.
I do not even care what this one has or doesn’t have, I only know what immortal had and that’s enough for me to never look at another diablo ever again. They went full retard. You never go full retard. (if you’ve seen the movie you would know why that’s not offensive at all, if you haven’t correct this mistake at your earliest convenience)
You keep saying that some of the critisism from experienced players could be valid only because you will spend hundreds of hours in this game, but I can tell you that they are valid also for a player like me, who has very limited free time in my life but I still share the views and expectations from the elite players. If I choose this game to spend my very limited time, I want it to be worth it!
Nobrainer like this might be fun for some big portion of population, but it gets old very quickly. Not trying to push the boundries with a big name like Diablo IV is just listening to your soulless financial department plan and playing it safe to keep the money rolling in.
I can’t imagine many arpg’s are showing all the game mechanics at lvl 25, I imagine things will get a little more involved as we lvl up. Especially once paragon bored is unlocked etc. Level 25 is to soon to judge imo in reality will will only spend about 10 minuets tops at this lvl in full release.
the biggest part is WHY CANT I OVERLAY my map like in d2. or any arpg for that matter. At least let me zoom out the minimap
The core of an ARPG will always be:
Build diversity: It’s important for replayability, Otherwise you will get bored fairly quickly.
A fun and engaging end-game: So you can do the repetitive process of farming monsters or bosses.
A good loot system: unique’s shouldn’t drop like candy or be broken. Build defining, yes but every item shouldn’t enhance your build to an degree where you become overpowered.
And i feel like Diablo 4, Unless changed at a later date, Will fail on build diversity and loot.
They need to limit the amount of legendary powers you can use at the same time. Otherwise we will see millions and/or billions on our screen as soon as we press an ability.
The ability tree isn’t adding any excitement. It’s very streamlined with very few decisions to make ( Almost none at all to be fair)
When it comes to loot as of right now, It’s shit.. The random enchant on a random piece of gear ain’t that intressting. Would have rather seen the enchant itself drop and i have to use it on a yellow piece of gear, Giving me a reason not to ignore 90% of drops.
lets be real. 90% of players will never touch a message board or watch a streamer.
As soon as he said, he was a Diablo three extraordinaire I understood why you didn’t like Diablo floor because you like gay games Diablo three is World of Warcraft with a Diablo story probably the worst Diablo yet
I am probably going to get it, play it, and give it as fair an assessment as possible, but from the things being brought up in all the reviews, both favorable and not, I suspect I’m ultimately going to hate it. My personal tastes are rabidly anti-MMO (got no problem with people playing what they enjoy), and the reviews so far are making it clear to me that the shared world/multiplayer/online experience is what the game was designed, constructed, and optimized for. I want to be wrong, but I get the sinking feeling that the few like me who have both enjoyed Diablo and don’t enjoy MMOs at all are going to wind up ultimately disappointed.
I personally am not really liking it. Mainly it feels like there is less abilities then in D3, and I don’t really vibe with any of the classes other then Druid.
Diablo 3.5
As a turbo casual ARPG player, I’m having an absolute blast in the beta. I do see the potential long-term issues these creators are pointing out though.
So excited for your new channel with all D4 content.
I don’t hate it but that doesn’t mean I like it. To me it is just fine. If my friends didn’t buy it I wouldn’t have picked it up. I’d probably still be playing D2R or POE. There is so much good about D2 and D3 and they implemented all most none of it. Oh but they added in emote quests. You know everyone’s favorite type of quest. The UI is ugly, the skills are lackluster, the fact that you can’t have more than six skills on your bar is oppressive. A lot of the monsters are just reskins of other monsters which that happens but not usually so quickly. An update for WASD for movement would be great oh but I get something like that if I play on a controller. Great. With so much to build off of D4 should be an awesome game but it seems so lackluster. I see a lot of first time ARPG players really enjoying it and if I was a first time player to the genre I’d give it a 8/10 but as it is for me it is more of a 6.5/10. I’m hoping the end game content is good, but looking at some of the shops it seems when they said nightmare dungeons would be equal to D3 rifts I think they meant that literally. I’m hoping that in the two months they have before it launches they’ll make some sweeping changes. Over all if you have friends that are going to play it pick it up. You’ll probably at least play till after the first season so that should be a good 100 hours or so of game play. Now if that is 100 hours of enjoyment we’ll have to see.
even now i think i will be glad that i have Grim Dawn if diablo 4 is gonna fail in the end. And gonna play then the Reign of Terror mod for it
I thought the closed beta was repetitive. The open beta feels repetitive. I love exploring but there is so much open space has no mobs, or barely any. I really want to like D4–God knows, I need a new game to play. But it’s hard to get hyped about something that so far isn’t proving to be alluring enough to stop playing LoL. I am so bummed.
11:00 Something to remember when looking at PoE’s numbers is that Steam players are the vast minority. For PC, GGGs launcher has marginally lower latency, and pre-patching for earlier queueing at league start. There’s also the console realms to consider, which are also not counted looking at just steam.
Low-ball is 4x that number, assuming GGG’s launcher has only half the PC players, and combined PC is about equal to combined console.
Mind, I’m not defending PoE. By all that is holy the game is absurdly complex, the respec system is laughable, and the concessions made to trade make the endgame grind entirely un-fun. But on a factual level, it is a far larger game than you’re assuming.
Two reasons that it seems everyone hates d4: (1) Reviews right now are over-emphasizing flaws because there is still (maybe) time to fix them before launch. (2) Our expectations are REALLY fucking high. Nothing but a 9/10 game or above is acceptable. And with those expectations, good combat and great sound engineering is just a must-have. “Oh, those are good? They better fucking be. How’s the fucking end-game?” With that level of expectation, the game would have to be a once-in-a-lifetime game to get a glowing review, and d4 isn’t that (yet?). But at the end of the day, it’s worth the cost (mumble), and people are generally going to have a great time.
Diablo 4 is mid as hell
It’s a really great game.
nailed it bro 🤘
Hi Force, I really think NO OTHER GAME gets that’s level of neatpicking, from a Beta test. I get that we all love this franchise and want to play it 10 Years+, so constructive criticism is important. But come on… The font? Really? Criticism shall not overcome the feeling of just playing the game and what they really naild like gameplay, ambiance and graphics. Damn this feels good. I want all those critics to come back after really playing the full game with a decent time and understanding of end game. Now we can talk and sttart itarating for future seasons and live service game evolution.
Your general consensus of WoW was wrong, most high end EQ raiders moved to it straight away.
No it can’t be I don’t want to see this game fail not diablo 4 I think it looks awesome and I’m already pre ordering it
I kind of liked D4 honestly… Other than the issues expected from a launch/beta.
if youre hating in font then you are hating for the sake of hating 😂
Diablo 3 was already what youre claiming Diablo 4 to be. It was dumbed down, simplified, but mass marketable. The issue with D4 is that it’s just worse in regards to the already oversimplified aspects of Diablo 3. If D4 was Diablo 3 but with Diablo 4 graphics, atmosphere/story and gameplay then I think reception would be way better
I can absolutely get the feedback about dungeons.
But items and class balance? In a beta where we can only go to level 25? Really? Fucking seriously? When have all these incredible content creators with smart insights into their respective games turned into unthinking idiots?
I was very bored playing diablo beta. I was surprised how positive everyone else was. I had way more fun playing diablo 3 and evem more fun playing path of exile. Diablo 4 was kinda meh…
I might be wrong but imo those content creators started throw sh*t at D4 because they can literally play it 24-7.
And because they can actually milk the f out of the game (a BETA test) they start realising things that the majority of players wont even notice or even if it noticable they just dont care about it because the game itself is actually good.
I jumped in the open beta and had the privilage to play fairly good hours and I had a fucking blast.
The other problem is probably the huge hype train which was on the way to this point and at this point the expectations are over the border and no matter what happens in the game, that wont be enough. But if you sit down and think about it, and compare D4 to D3, the difference is just massive. The look, the gameplay, the feel of combat, the interactions, the atmosphere, everything…
So I decided to not give a flying fuck about what others has to say, as long as I am having fun, I don’t care what the hardcore 10% bragging about.
Thanks for reading this outburst, heres a highfive o/
I love (algo comment push-up phrase) how D4 was really unn interesting for me. I didn’t car e to finish the questline on the Beta even. It was the same with D3, just really b land and f lat.
Whenever I start the game of my dreams, PoE, I get so incredibly bored after act 6 or something and stop playing for months… but at the same time, I enjoy the D3 rifts… which is probably the dullest gameplay loop in the gaming world.
The controls of D3 are super smooth, but what else?… I don’t get it. Is it just that?
On my PC, PoE is installed since 2015 and I have only 131,9 hours played. Still want to play it and looking forward to PoE2.
I liked the D4 Beta very much. Same smooth gameplay as D3 (and great controller support). Hopefully the endgame doesn’t suck.
I don’t really compare or choose between games… I just play what I like. 🤔
e: Watched some of the mentioned streamer vods about the D4 beta. Their opinions might be valid to them, but it’s nothing I care about.
And those “This is the best build!!!” vods are inflationary used… it’s really annoying. People shouldn’t watch those… Don’t let other people play your game.
To be honest, I played the beta, got to level 16 and I was bored to the point I felt drowsy and took a 1hr nap after hitting 16.
I’m still not going to judge the final game based on this as it’s just 25 levels and only early game, but I don’t know why it feels so dull at this stage.
Hello. Game as a service, remember? We will have an open beta for the first season. Then will come the new features. We need a functional word, gameplay(and a balance one)and systems . The rest will come in future patches. Every game as a service started small: wow, poe, dota2, fortnite, gta5 online.
I don’t hate it
I’m like most players, I don’t give a fuck. Beta was fun.
Diablo III was what originally brought me to your channel! Glad you’re covering 4!
Yeah, yeah… You *think* you don’t give a shit about font, but you do, believe me. Do you need it to be atrocious chicken scratch for you to realize, “hey maybe that’s a valid point!”?
For me the game is not bad but boring as hell. There is nothing new to the genre. Defo wouldn’t pay the full price. iight get it on sale someday in the future but I wont play much games in summer anyway.
This game is amazing tbh best Diablo yet
Im just scared theres a lack of content. Like… get legendaries unlock skills and then…. What? What is the end game goal? Is there pvp? The beta severely lacked content so I hope there are way more mechanics when the full game releases
It’s pronounced ‘last epic’. just an fyi
Diablo 4 is what 3 should of been. This game is being recived well. Immortals was trash.
ppl are only hating it because everyone was expecting it to be a whale game no thanks to immortal, that’s what they get for revealing the mobile game first before a D4
Think it’s a bit far to say everyone hates it, I mean there’s a lot of unpolished stuff and endgame doesn’t sound like it’s the “we plan for people to play the endgame for years and years” endgame they described. Could be related to the not meeting deadlines stuff and people being overworked or forced to put out something.
Druid feels very underwhelming though still a better leveling experience than barb and necro seems pretty overtuned as always but fun. However the skeles look like they are on a low res texture and look like they came from diablo immortal. UI needs work in general, functionality is fine but it looks horrid, idm the health and mana part but menus and stuff look bad. Also needs map overlay. I’ve had fun with it but the thing I’m most concerned about is endgame, it sounds like it was put together in a day.
Honestly, I wish you could turn off encountering other random players. Maybe limit your open world instancing to your friends/guild. Having random joe smo come in and just decimate everything just makes the game seem like I am not doing much. Like the point of the game is run from world even to world even and just leave progress off people more powerful than you – until you finally get the drop you want. Game has good bones I’d say – but I hope they flush it out into something a bit more interesting in the first couple of seasons.
The game is mid, I love Diablo but this ain’t it “yet”
I am the average diablo fan. Never played D1, grew up with D2 including a lot of modding. I also have a fair amount of hours in D3, including a pre-nerf inferno kill which I’m proud of.
I don’t like D4. Why?
Animations, game feel, general presentation. Something just feels off.
I remember not liking D3 cartoony graphics perse, but the overall feel + animations + quality was amazing at launch. I killed Leoric with 3 different characters during the beta because I was genuinely impressed..
Now D4… Feels like some lesser company made it.
The tone is right, but the entire presentation is wrong. I’m not an artist to pinpoint why, but it’s bad imho (no, it’s not the fonts).
Maybe the spells are underwhelming, maybe the mobs are barely visible in some environments, maybe the (sorcerer) animations are completely off. I don’t know which part, and how fixable it is down the line..
All I know is, I’m not going to purchase it. But I do feel like playing immortal after this beta.
It costs more than S$90 for the standard edition where I’m at. Played the open beta and I liked the game but don’t feel like it’s worth it at that price. I’ll wait for a discount but I’d probably moved on from D4 by the time the price drops 😅
This video is click bait
The fundamentals just don’t grab me, I’m fine with an ARPG being repetitive, it comes with the genre. But backtracking through empty sections of dungeon is just lazy design. Waiting for NPCs to talk or walk, or being told to walk 3 feet and pick up a quest item when it could have been granted by talking to the NPC feels like a waste of time, while minor it’s really going to hurt the games replayability. The customization is fairly linear and lackluster. I feel like its a solid experience for someone new to ARPGs in general, a simplified experience for someone who wants to play through the game casually and be done with it. But if I have the choice of this or D3, PoE, Last Epoch, Torchlight/2, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, or even Wolcen, I think it’s my least favorite.
In early 2000s some people played a magical game called Diablo 2, ever since then these people take it upon themselves to remind the whole world how everything in the world sucks because they can’t have that magic back, I know people who are stuck like that on that one girl they dated for a summer, they never moved on, and their lives are always going to suck because of that
What??? I love this Beta of Diablo 4….and everybody I know playing the beta love it too… it’s not perfect because it’s a beta… I think your playing a different game…
Ignore those haters. They are missing the point. The point is the last game came out over a decade ago. A DECADE. I don’t want a new game to do different shit for the sake of it. I want it to deliver what I loved about the series and enhancing the parts that weren’t so good or refreshing them for the modern gaming landscape.
In movies the saying is “the audience wants the same thing but different”. This is exactly what I want. It delivers as far as I can see.
Great to see room for improvement still but this game is gonna do well cos it’s fun to play. Simple as that.
Great vid. Do you think they cn fix all this in 2 months? I think…. no, not even close. This will be a year plus project!
Playing the beta made me go from “kinda interested” to “genuinely considering a buy”. It’s so much more fun to play than I expected. As someone who only played D3 before, I was very interested how it would turn out after hearing that it would be more like D2 (which I didn’t pay attention at its original release, then never got into after playing D3) and after hearing about peoples love for that one. Potential Monetisation really is the only big worry I still have and I hope they don’t slap any microtransactions on the final game.
Too late to change now. Maybe some RNG tweaks, but the core game is set.
Game’s pretty good but marred by the current business model of gaming. I won’t be buying it on release. The monetization model is just too egregious 70-100 dollar game with an upcoming premium battle pass to boot. Wish gamers would stop just mindlessly consuming the corporate bs so they’d stop shoving it in our faces.
Lmao the copium
Never forget Diablo Immoral.
Don’t forget, damn sure don’t forgive.
seens like the paid actor is kinda of triggered realizing most people opinion, thats ok buddy, doesnt need a video tell us all over again, how right you are.
Dude what? You’re full of sh*t! Not only is this game awesome (yes I played both early access and open beta) but I have seen nothing but perfect reviews. Click bait is click bait.
I havent seen a bad review besides a few nerds in a comment section
I played it. I have decided that I am not picking it up at launch. Honestly, I thought it was going to be a train wreck and it actually was quite nice. It’s a beta. It was a good beta. The world map is nice, but the dungeon maps are some of the most generic to date. I don’t play D3, I will never, so I don’t know what that’s all about. If they fix the dungeons and itemization, okay. I am too casual of an ARPG player to want to spend my time playing a glorified mobile game. If I am going to spend my time being entertained, I should be puzzled and challenged, not given a hand out which is all this game seems to want to do.
Blizz just made this game for low effort, high profit development going forward, it shows.
A little off-topic, but I subscribed to you back when you were doing the Diablo 3 coverage before it entered beta 🙂
Most of the negative reviews don’t sound reasonable. Seems like most game reviewers on youtube are just skewing negative to get views and it just hurts the final game
I love how dark the game is. They’re not scared to put in the brutal. It’s like a mix match of D1 Darkness, D3 Dungeoning and loot, and guild wars 2 open world event based mapping. It’s different, but I’m loving it. After hitting 20, I bought the ultimate edition.
What body type is this youtuber? Anyone know?
Maybe it’s just me but its pretty cool game I think I’ve been playing the free weekend and probably will go ahead and get when it comes out.
They screwed up by putting diablo 2 and 3 mechanics together
Game is ok, I expected more in 2023
I’m in love with D4. I couldn’t stop playing the Early Beta and I can’t stop playing the Open Beta.
And I’m really hyped for the June release.
After blizzcon 2018, blizz doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Also the game is woke. None of the women have pretty faces or pretty, long hair or anything bigger than B cups. Yaay. There are no masculine alpha looking men aside from barb, but oopsie, devs said in response to weekend feedback that barbs are “intentionally weaker than other classes” so good luck with representation there 👍.
The druids are fat neckbeards with the same running animation as everyone else(to cut corners, of course), but I got news for ya: fat men don’t run exactly the same as small women. Completely jarring and unrealistic watching these tubs fly along. I’d go on why this game is just another nothingburger ARPG with the diablo logo slapped on it to sell copies, but I’m sure I’ve hurt enough fragile weirdos and the wannabe chad in the video providing commentary for this clickbait. Y’all need standards.
WoW was pretty crappy when it launched. It got better as time went on.
…. Diablo IV is very lackluster, gg.
its a console game
we live in a world where people love to hate everything. If Diablo 1 or 2 came out today just as they were back then, people would shit on both of them
Gotta stop with the sensational click bait titles shit dick
hmmm.. personally im level 20 and kinda bored already..
has me wanting to play PoE honestly.
will the entire campaign / story be based around helping people find keys to unlock doors to initiate a small dialogue or cut scene? 🙁 sad man facve.
I love this game. It’s a blast to play. Can’t wait for the full game to launch in June.
I think a lot of the hardcore ppl and Diablo/ARPG content creators are looking for something they can make content out of. A lot of times no one wants to get an EXCEL spreadsheet and map out how they want to build their class. The builds in the beta are super early. I find it so crazy that ppl will review a beta like its a full game. Some of the feed back is good and much warranted. And I think the ppl who want the game to be more complex should just stick with POE. I like how Diablo 4 feels…it feels like if I put the time into it, I could come up with my own build fairly ez. If I want to super optimize it…I will look up the more vet players. I think and hope the game will be more polished by release and it will feel even better once we get the paragon builds and more skill points to fill out the final builds. At this point in my gaming life I just want to play games that are fun and not play games to have the best builds, best damage, OP farming method, secret loot caves, etc.
Game is just boringly easy , probably takes multiple plays before it even becomes a challenge like 3.
In a game v rising a normal npc like a wolf would be considered a boss in diablo 4 with it having just a few simple mechanics.
That’s my main gripe anyway basically a high graphic game of asteroids wiping stuff as it slowing walks towards you.
let’s hope the strong story telling stays consistent through out.. and it’s not just the beginning to convince people that it’s a good game.
I have every intention of playing Diablo IV pretty intensely when it comes out, but I definitely have concerns that seasonal gameplay will be a real slog if it’s always a completely fresh start. Some of these first-time leveling activities and account-wide bonus collections will feel a lot more like chores when we’re repeating them every 3 months.
I played and bought every single Diablo game. And Diablo 4 commits the worst sin for a video game. It’s boring. I don’t think I ever played a game that boring that long. I couldn’t believe it and played for a few hours hoping it would be better. But it never got there. All previous Diablos were 55 minutes of fighting and 5 minutes of selling stuff and story tid bits. Now it’s maybe 30 minutes of fighting if you are lucky. Diablo 4 is not respecting my time and so I will not respect it.
D2 is still the best Diablo so far. D4 is Diablo-lite.
Lol this title is shameless click bait. Solid work.
but why can’t we just start from lvl 25 so we can skip all the pointless loot from 1-25?????
I didn’t even play the game and it already feels like a job to lvl up to 25.
A really good beta. Can’t wait for full release.
Not many complaints here.. it’s diablo.. it’s what we want.. no need to reinvent the wheel. If they go too far on pleasing people, it ruins what made it so good to begin with.
Diablo 4 is a masterbugcrashespiece.
I agree 4/10
Did you just say star craft was more casual than c&c? Lmao…
definitely needs more/ better legendary powers
“as an MMO fan, I enjoy it” is a pretty perfect summary of this video/video game. It’s not supposed to be an MMO, it’s supposed to be an arpg. Diablo 3 had the same issue, it was an mmo. So don’t act surprised that arpg fans hate it.
I can’t wait for D4, my hype is through the roof after playing the beta.
It’s pretty garbage. World level scaling is such a stupid decision. Itemization is boring af. Skills are boring af. And the responsiveness leaves a lot to be desired.
Weird, i enjoyed it and it seems the vast majority of people do also.
It’s popular to hate on Blizzard and also POE fans are like the vegans of gaming, they want to enforce their game to everyone.
Honestly this is exactly what I wanted. I didn’t want an entire new game. I wanted a more refined better graphics and more of a continue on the old games. When developers move to far from the original idea it’s almost always a guarantee lost. I think D4 is awesome and I’ll be playing it for a long time.
I am worrying about some of the things people have been saying about Diablo 4.
But I think Diablo 4 is going to be alot better than Diablo 3. Just look at the graphics of Diablo 4, it is actually the first Diablo game since Diablo 1 that has graphics that are on par with It’s generations standards.
Making a Diablo successor at this point is going to just set people up for disappointment.
I think that given time people will stop pretending Reddit is real life and fall into the same game design traps that have earned modern Activision-Blizzard their place in the industry.
Diablo’s spirit died with Condor Studios/Blizzard North in 2005, it is what it is.
This original poster of the video doesn’t really like it, so EVERYONE hates it and puts it as a clickbait title. GTFO clown
im sorry but WTF DID YOU THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE? seriously stfu spend your money and sit in your basement . The world wont miss you and never did! dianlo was dead a decade ago dummies.
adter he started playing WoW he failed out of school and became some random cringe who gives his opinions on games via video. bravo! nothing like mocking the youloser crowd who calls themselves content creators….. you created nothing and never will. id love to see these losers all get together and actually create their own game but that will never happen because they can’t.
I agree. WoW is a dumbed down version of EQ and I blame WoW for ruining EQ and the genre as a whole.
I love it
I’ve never played Diablo before this last couple weeks… after playing Diablo 4 for a few days and Diablo 3 for a few days, Diablo 3 is way better
Everything tastes like ash to gamers nowadays. The most popular game is shitting on a popular game. At a certain point, these reviews have less to do with the product and more to do with the mental and emotional state the average gamer is in. The dopamine hit is getting harder and harder to get with new games nowadays. You all just need to touch grass to start appreciating games again. Do other things besides games.
When WoW first came out I was plating final fantasy 11. I remember a mass exodus of veteran players moving to WoW. A month later they came back saying they did everything lol
“It feels good”. Nope, it does not to me. I’ve played D1 and D2 with all expansions for more than 10k hours. D3 I’ve played less, but still came up to around 2k hours. After that I preferred playing PoE. Yesterday I’ve played D4’s open beta and I was underwhelmed and didn’t feel a connection. As things stand now I will not buy the game, especially because of the pricetag of 70 bucks (which I could afford easily). No thanks.
I refunded due to the issues mentioned here AND the absolute lack of class diversity. I was bored out of my mind with the rogue and its extremely basic skill tree.
I mean the game is great so far, feels like reviews now a days are for hardcore gamers only
the biggest thing i took away from all the footage was………
the Ui looks like sheet! it lack clarity, it is so busy with Vulnerable! Stuned! Dodged! 124! 172! 283!
are you really still playing a game? or a visualized random number generator?
it just look so cheap and terrible….
I concurr that most of the concerns won’t afect “most” of the playerbase (that is, the people that’ll play probably 2h a week or something like that, casual people), but I don’t think that the issue with Dungeons replayability/backtracking won’t affect them.
Dungeons grow old pretty fast in this game, I hope they improve that system.
Hopefully we’re looking at prerelease NPC’s as well because practically every one of them is a copy and paste job. This normally wouldn’t be a big issue, but coming from D3 where most NPCs had unique skins it looks really lazy.
It’s basically Diablo 3 re-skinned with more open world maps and the same 6 skill slot BS and an additional dodge/roll button.
Why nobody cares about this video
Im looking forward to this game. I played it for about 2 hours this weekend just to get a feel for performance, visuals etc to determine if it may be something i want to try when it comes out. I didnt want to spoil anything for later. From the short period of time I played it was awesome. The visuals were incredible, and the game played and looked more akin to d1/2 than it does d3 and for that I’m excited as hell.
I’ve really enjoyed this open beta. I think it feels and play way better than the previous Diablo titles. Items and gearing will probably become a bit more complicated as we progress. I got a loading screen saying that “items that has the possibility to change the way your class plays doesn’t show up until Nightmare difficulty” – paraphrasing.
My biggest beef at the moment is that melee is very shafted. Every single boss spams pools or beams that you have to stay in if you’re a close range melee, but you can’t if you want to survive. So you have to painstakingly slow boop the boss in small windows of opportunity.
All in all I think D4 will be better than PoE 2 when it comes to story and multiplayer, but PoE will be more interesting when it comes to builds and itemization . I will be playing both 🙂
It sucks ass
Most lag in the game, totally flop
Uhhh everyone I know likes or loves the game, reviews are very positive.
I feel like most people who are content with this game are just 40 year old dads or people who work and play games maybe an hour or two a day. Which isnt a negative thing. But I do hate when they argue about what is good/bad about the game. I have had too many conversation about feedback for the game like making a better UI or some other random thing and they swear this game is game of the year or there isnt any issues. If you have no issues, is different then thinking objectively about the game and seeing what the ARPG community wants. There is also a difference between people who will put 50 hours in a year vs someone who wants to play 500 hours in the first few months. For longevity the game needs improvements, For the casual gamer who isnt going to beat the story in the first day the game is fun. You can turn your brain off hit some demons and have fun. Sometimes though you need to think about how people who will play everyday feel about the game. ALL IN ALL I LIKE DIABLO 4 SO FAR. It is fun to kill shit and is great. The beta can get boring after completing everything but thats just the beta. THERE ARE ISSUES. but its still FUN.
Aww cute WoW loser makes home video for the internet
Players complaining about not “feeling strong when leveling” is because there’s no guides for them to follow and optimize their build. So personally I think that is a good thing. Who wants an easy, brain dead game. Diablo is good at making you feel strong for a bit and then as time goes on and you scale up it becomes harder again. Making you need to seek new gear or change your build. It helps with the cycle of having to grow and make your toon stronger. Rather than just always walking into a room and clicking a button and everything dies. So, I’ma take that critique with a grain of salt. One thing I will say is the end game better have multiple things to do, or it will get old quick.
Honestly I feel like there are alot of good moves made compared to previous diablo entries … feels alot more fun to play than what I’m used to in diablo the beta has been awesome so far
You make the all too common mistake of using steam numbers as overall player totals. PoE had its own launcher long before it was on steam so I dont think your player count numbers are all that accurate.
If I want sushi, I’ll go to a Japanese restaurant. But sometimes I just want Wendy’s.
That’s the best analogy I can make toward PoE vs. Diablo. There’s room for different flavors of the same genre.
Casual D3 player here.
After this weekends beta, I can safely say I am ignoring the release of this game now.
I’m so gutted because I was hooked on D3 end game for years. But this beta has shown me that they have done very little to improve the game. But instead just thrown in uneeded gimics whilst loosing big and little good things from D3.
I cant believe you like the fact this is an open world mmo now. Diablo never needed this.
I’m on ps4 so maybe that’s the issue, but anytime I go into a populated area I get severe frame drops, and rubber banding. Thats if I don’t get kicked, which is about 80% of the time. I cant imagine how bad this will be when I’m playing at the highest difficulties with a hundred enemies on screen.
I cant believe how bad the inventory system is. They did such a good job in D3 at showing at a quick glance if a new item is worth comparing to equipped or not (with the green and red stat arrows) and organising the “best” at the top of the list. Now you have to individually go through each one. And that will carry on until end game. Making it worse for the casual player who doesn’t really do end game. And making it worse for those of us just wanting to speed through to end game.
The open world travelling is boring and nothing but a time sink.
I’m also really concerned about the ingredients gatherings for certain upgrades. I can already see videos titled “where to farm herbs and ores”. But that isn’t fun gameplay. You can’t tell me it is. I’m not playing diablo to go foraging!
I honestly have about 100 complaints/concerns about the design of this game. But obviously I’m not going to do that here. I just wanted a quick drunken rant.
But for the record forcegaming. No, I don’t trust your reviews or impressions on any game. I’ve seen your content many time and all you seem to do is overhype. I do t know if it’s because you’re gullible AF. Or you take some “not sponsered” paychecks
Click bait is a form of deception, thus dishonesty.
This is Clickbait. I hope no one is taking this clown serious.
Well come on, diabo iv beta gameplay is worse than even early access of Last Epoch. do u play diablo series for story? xD for sure. How much did Blizzard pay to you for this opinion? btw 70 eur for poor edition)
Hi,
This is totally a me problem. Or at least a low vision issue. But as a low vision player. It really would be nice If more gamers did care about font. Font size & readability in particular. It is genuinely annoying to not play a game solely because of tiny or hard to read font. It’s even more annoying to strain your eyes so bad you go functionally blind playing a video game. A real thing that actually happens. While temporary its also depressing & frightening.
I’m not colorblind. Yet I’m all for colorblind modes. We’re talking about video games. This isn’t a zero-sum issue. Does something truly have to affect you directly for you to be supportive
Take care & have a good one
People making opinions about a game about the first act of the beta. What a bunch of fuckin pine cones bud.
I think you are too overhyped. You know who is Blizzard now? The company that is making pictures with Bill Crosby, and it is raping women. The company that is scamming since the last 5 years and the same company that is making shit since the last years and years. That’s Blizzard. Will it be a quality game? I can bet no.
And I hope also no. Because for me, Blizzard only deserves the worst, and it will be forever and ever in my boycott list.
Just wait for Path of Exile 2…
Played all the #Diablo games. D1 was groundbreaking… D2 was my favorite and still the best… D3 was beautiful to look at with a cliche story and mindless clicking… #DiabloIV is visually interesting but dead inside as much as D3 was. At least I didn’t waste money on it.
SIDENOTE: I also don’t trust Blizzard not to epically monetize this out the wazoo like this did with the mobile version. Plus, being forced to be Online when you have NO desire to use the Online features in a game is an epic fail. I don’t support “Live Service” bullshittery.
Cheap copy of POE with bad character models
You think D4 looks great and feels great? Feels like garbage and looks like a filter is over everything… ffs.
so I played Diablo 4…so first I slashed and then I hacked, and then I slashed, and then I hacked, then I got new gloves, then I tried slashing before I hacked, then I slashed and hacked at the same time, I’m starting to sense a pattern here….
Casual players: man, this game is fun!
Hardcore players: *triggered* no it’s not
I’ve enjoyed the game so far. Not a fan of the other players roaming around though. Was just looking to play with my friends. No one else. Was doing an event with my friends and a level 25 guy strolled up and the event just melted. Same with killing random mobs. We were running through and higher level guys would come by and just wipe the map around us. If there is an option to disable it I’d be ok with it. But as of right now I’m not a huge fan of that feature.
LoL bro I had this lv 15 mage which was super powerful. Joined my mate who just started. And his lv1 rogue did more damage to the enemies than my mage. (I did drop him some gear I happen to carry and he could use, the item levels that drop make no sense btw) That was awkward
The game is fine, all these videos are fucking stupid, (not this one) and the comments, we have played the first 3 hours of the game, thats like hitting 15 in wow and saying yup this is bad. End game matter, actual gearing system matter not the early game bullshit.
After seeing how scummy ridge is, I’ll never buy a single one of their products sorry force.
it ticks the boxes.. but tastes like diablo immortal. Its best to quit these hamster wheel games before you start.
I think the game is awesome, but then again, these are the same people that say that call of duty is good lol.
Don’t know what the hate is about, they definitely need to balance the classes and yea needs to be more variety of the dungeons but gameplay is amazing.
I personally like the level scaling, makes you actually not 1 shot everything, just have to get your skills and legendaries in line, and keeps the game challenging. Itemization does need some buffs though.
I like your style, I wish more people would reserve judgement until the game releases.
Force are you sponsored? lol
I ended up refunding my pre-purchase today. First off the tech issues involved with the game just let me down from the start. then when I actually got to play the game, I got bored so fast. It was the same shit over n over again, but it doesn’t even feel as fun as diablo3 lol. playing the werewolf I just thought the entire time… I miss playing the monk, which felt 10 times more fun to play then this repetitive slow excuse of a character. Sorc was my first champ, got bored of that by lev 15. I will just save my money and play free to play games, seems like a smarter way to game.
Isn’t Diablo 4 basically just a rerelease of Diablo Immoral with better graphics? 😂
That’s funny, it’s the first one I’ve enjoyed since Diablo 1&2. The necromancer is even more awesome now and my wife and I had enjoyed playing together. Diablo 3 was absolutely horrible, this seems to have fixed the problems I had with 3.
Setting art style looks/feels too much like ds, elden ring, bloodborne
I also wish there was an easier way for players to figure out what types of stats/attributes/attacks/etc to prioritize when they are trying to build a particular type of character. There’s so much to learn for newbies. I remember getting into Diablo 3 and not REALLY fully understanding everything until maybe a year into playing. I see the same thing happening for new players here as well.
Total clickbait. Surprising from Force. He’s better than that.
@3:10 (ish) — Enmemies scale to your level? really !?
Ok it’s official now. Not getting D4. Blizzard screwed the pouch for me on this one.
Have fun guys !
I’ll agree it’s not with out fault. But you also have to take into consideration those big names have put a lot of hours into another similar game and they’re going to compare it hard to what they know and love.
The dungeon structure I can see being a problem, I’d rather they didn’t have the crappy little wall that made me go explore further just to progress that dungeon that I need for a side quest. I prefer the d3/poe of oh you went the wrong way, well you got some exp and maybe some loot, now backtrack.
The UI especially the skill tree has many issues, why isn’t the skill tree full screen or at least toggleable so you can see the damn thing easier. Other parts are so nested I didn’t even notice them till they were pointed out.
I actually like the pace of the game, I only got my necro to 20, but it wasn’t such a rush compared to PoE or D3. I wasn’t surrounded by 100 monsters on every screen, I don’t need to have certain skills to be viable. I could explore at my own pace and enjoy the content.
I’m looking forward to the game, though will give it a week or two on release before purchase just so I don’t play queuing simulator.
Thank you for the video, I honestly find myself coming here often to check if you’ve got any new videos, you’ve got a very fair and informed opinion on the content. Much appreciated.
i love it, my brother did 5mins of the beta and said it was diablo 3 and quit, smh like whatchumean while in the same breath mention how he put hours in diablo 3 LUL
Sounds like every Diablo release since D2. Mid at best at first when you breakdown all the details. Guess we’ll see what happens here over time. Won’t matter either way to me though. I don’t support ABK anymore, not since the Blitzchung situation.
D4 is just way too boring for me. No way I’m wasting money on this shit.
MrLlama was always going to dislike D4. His feedback is basically worthless outside of anything D2 related, and even then he has intense bias.
I’ve always wanted an MMO that’s more or less just like world of Warcraft except with the dark aesthetics of Diablo
The camera is so close on the character its no needed resolution above 640X420P a 4k screen feels like that with this game.
D4 isnt gonna be a wow classic lol
They game feel soulless and cheap. UI is very weak, fonts matter and it’s bad. The map, items, monster models all look cheap. The potion system is bad. When I look at the game overall as it is now, there is not that top level of quality you expect and want.
the itemization seems bad bc of the amount of magic tier+ loot the game throws at you, immortal had the same issue if you have stacks of gold and legendaries all the time then yeah it all blends together and is not as impactful as being chocked on power and finally getting that better piece
Tried the Beta today, pushed a Rogue to lvl 25 and finished the story…. while the world is a beauty and the story looks compelly enough… nah, I’m skipping this one at least until a few patches.
I didn’t really get great legendaries, so that might’ve made the experience worse, but I didn’t enjoy the skills at all. I didn’t enjoy the open world aspect, and the hub design feels awful as well – why is everything so far from the waypoint
I hope those who will buy it will enjoy it and I’ll be tempted from all the praise to give it another chance down the line.
sidenote on poe player count – I believe the devs stated that most of the players play from the standalone client which isn’t reflected in steam charts
Necro was super fun for me this weekend
Ill wait for the 3rd World Country free version
Your pinned comment, completely contradicts your thumbnail/video title. Clickbait much bruh? Ur a big channel , why would u do this? There are at least 2 dozen things to discuss with d4, and u do this? Kinda disappointed.
In my opinion Diablo 4 I’d unbelievably boring and weak, skull tree… trash… lack of elective mode also trash (I couldn’t find the option someone correct me if I’m wrong), loot drops also terrible, when you level if you haven’t got a lucky drop you’re screwed cause you’re too weak for the boss etc etc. It’s only my opinion but I think they have failed in every way with this one bar the story and the graphics.
Is anyone else tired of the floaty damage numbers?
What? You guys don’t have phones? 😂
Imagine how much someone need to be idiot to give a judgement over a beta.
It had a smooth gameplay? It has mechanics you enjoy? Yes no? nobody care, it’s still too early
I played for a hour last night, when there was no 50 minute Q to play. I was ok with it but then deleted the 90 Gig download of it form my drive.
Diablo 4 isn’t bad but the wow reference is a little strange because it being a little different from everquest was good BUT the further it got from everquest the worst it got overtime. Also great content brother 👍
World of Warcraft was when Blizzard still made good games, though, before Activision bought them out and they went down the toilet. After being burned by the trash Activision has released over and over and over again, including Diablo 3 and expansions of WoW post WOTLK, I’m very skeptical and reluctant to buy anything from them again. They couldn’t even manage to do a good job at re-releasing the original World of Warcraft: Classic.
Looking at old school WOW makes me want to play it, but not know with how it currently looks and plays.
I mean to be fair this is as of level 25 once the full game comes out a lot of these “issues” won’t really be issues.
We need Runes back. Maybe Runes are part of the end game.
I didn’t like it. I have to be honest. This is just my opinion and I don’t mean to offend anyone. In my perspective it’s not worth what it costs.
I have been playing Last Epoch the last weeks and it feels much more smooth and engaging with more interesting systems.
I played a necro to level 25 and half of the time I was really bored. Dungeons looked all the same to me = Find a locked door, open this door and fight the boss.
Also small things like the skill buttons art design looks very unfinished and simple.
Another point is that maybe because of server lag the skills were feeling very clunky and with slow response.
In the end I think the game feels very unfinished. I know it’s a beta, but we are 3 months away from the release already.
I don’t understand the dungeon stuff. They seem cool. I’m not certain what people are looking for. I’m excited for this game.
Why can’t people give the games a chance!! It’s not even out yet
As a diablo fan that isnt into competetive play anymore and just want to have a fun time for some hours every now and then I think it will be fine game. Will it ever be as fun playing d1 and 2 for the first time probably not.
Im enjoying D4…. i dont care about these whiney complainers lol
Boring as heck. Very underwhelming. My most anticipated arpg I wanted to play with shape shifting but dang only two regular shapeshifting techniques that’s just lame. Smh. Took hr + to download, 4min exactly to uninstall
Literally just graphics is nice looking but in 2023 bleh, gameplay needs to be more enjoyable than graphics
If Diablo was catering to Hard Core players, I would not buy it. I want to sit on my couch and play this with my wife. Never played the other ones, but looking at this, it looks fun. That’s 70 bucks Blizzard would have never got had I thought the game was too challenging, had too many talents, required I needed to min-max, watch youtube guides, etc. I already play wow, ow
Beside time gating world boss and world boss camera and clunky control because of that camera and difficultly B’s from D3 I’m ok with others
nope love it
Everything I’ve read says the opposite, people love it. I’m currently playing the ps5 beta, wicked. Love it.
I rather buy and play sf6 because d4 is extremely outdated and overrated imo
I didn’t hate it. However the map is huge and having no mount in beta was exhausting took too much of my time
Diablo just has such limited content. Judging it right now is silly, but with all the typical Blizzard crap looking to be lining up again with network issues, even killing some GPUs, and only being able to see act 1 (which is fine). In D3 the other acts were SO borked on release it wasn’t even funny. Ok, maybe the invisible wasps were pretty funny. It definitely plays better than D3 but I have been playing Grim Dawn myself with some friends and its hard to deny how much better GD is than Diablo with keeping things fresh. I don’t think the paragon system is going to create much beyond A/B versions of classes with maybe small wandering from this meta by players here or there. For someone who doesn’t have Grim Dawn, why spend 100 bucks on this when you could drop 30 on grim dawn+all xpacs and get way more playtime out of it, and on top of it it’s more interesting gameplay wise? Every dungeon and area in GD feels hand crafted whereas in diablo its always some generated garbage or just really simple repeated layouts for everything. You even have the crucible expansion which is just such a hilariously obvious thing to have in an ARPG and a multi billion dollar company wont have anything like it. I am just waiting for the 9.99 stash expanders. If it were 60 bucks I wouldn’t be hating as much but Blizzard is so greedy these days and they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore, and are purely anti consumer. The worst part is the value. I’m not gonna buy this turd and I can’t wait for the videos “all the problems with D4” once it actually releases. I imagine it’s going to be the same lazy bullshit from them combined with ridiculous cost for a worse product. The rest of the acts aren’t going to be good, just like D3. These betas are just marketing. They have even said that the endgame is basically just rifts again lmao. Good luck everyone.
There’s a reason the last positive memory you have, Force, of a Blizzard release for is WoW. Ever since the Activision merger they have been slowly DECLINING for 20 years.
It is sad too see that there are so many games of this genre with great and awful qualities mixed, and instead of combining and improving upon those qualities they just do more of the same old things instead. To be more specific, path of exile had fun instance ideas but had no balance, meaning there was no impact behind skills, you could just spam them and meat grind the map until something else one shotted you. Lost ark had great sense of timing and impact on skill use but had god awful endgame with insta-wipe mechanics which would happend even if a single player messed things up for the party. Diablo 4 seems to have a decent story and graphics but beyond that i HATE how they mess up the level/power progression. You play, grind, study skills and come up with your own skill set/combo only to be weaker by each level. Who the hell wants to play to get weaker…
What’s the game at 6:24?
Painfully mid with little to no improvement on old/new implementations to the genre since D3. Buggy mess game with a live service model that will probably turn off a lot of the masses just like after Overwatch 2 launch. It will be a game that many play for a bit to get some nostalgia; however, it is blizzard, so end game will be meh and repetitive at best, and the live service model will probably suck the life out of the game. Maybe they will do more to improve, but Blizzard has been known more for mediocrity now a days.
Most of the people you mentioned are hardcore gamers. Most of the people who play games are casual gamers. As a casual gamer myself I can tell you that so far I like this game.
I heard that it is online only, is that true? I like playing games like these solo.
Lol, u can’t play both sides – saying we have valid points but they don’t matter to 95% of the audience.. pick a side homie
Lmao I hate the “Everyone Hates” Videos 😂
Honestly barbarian felt bad in early hours and the game just feels slow. First boss feels really unfun on barbarian as well. I def want to play more but not sure if I wanna put more time into beta
Boring gameplay
Most critiques by “pro gamers” are things I don’t care about. For example, I stopped watching all reviews when the majority were whining about frame rate drop, I’m 36 years old and never noticed such a thing my whole life. When we were kids we just played games, bugs, glitches and other issues were taken with stride and you just enjoyed what you had. Now a days it feels like every little problem is scrutinized too much to the point that you end up breaking through the fourth wall and losing all sense of role play and immersion. If all you can see are 1s and 0s, then your really not playing a game at all, you might as well be a coder doing work at a desk job.
I refunded after 2 hours of ‘play’. The MMO aspect sucks, barely monsters to kill, itemization sucks, … Except for the nice graphics I can’t say anything positive about it. Back to PoE.
If people cant be happy with D4, let them play with their toys ^^
This game is already fullfilling our long expectations, as a huge fan of D2 i can tell.
Have a lot of fun !
“Yea it sucks, but I’m going to milk this piece of shit”
the shared open world is for nothing waste of development time 😂
Diablo immortal was a piece of shit, so they had to rush 4 lol thats why this game feels like its 20% done
My complains are mainly that it feels too much of a Lost Ark/Grim Dawn hybrid with some skills taken from Path of Exile, which itself isn’t a bad thing, but the usual Blizzard polish is lacking. I managed to play to lvl 20 and well, the “bad graphics” really eat up the mood, music is nothing to remember by, animation, cutscenes and skill effects are really lackluster. They did something wrong with the color palette too, as It’s like a gray filter that ruins the image quality, so HDR is not really even a useable option for me either.
Funnily though I’ve had 0 issues in performance, sutterting or crashing because of using AMD GPU, while all the friends having nvidia cards do have had those issues people seem to be commenting. The game uses so much VRAM that those 2xxx and 3xxx RTX gpu’s with less than 16GB ram are going to have a bad time in performance. Maybe they will fix that considering how bland the graphics and visuals are, but you’ll never know until the final product is out.
Too many fan boys ignoring the issues and pushing this game as the best game ever made. Graphics ass, stiff animations, UI is ugly, lots of empty rooms, server issues [imagine launch day if they don’t give a crap about players already] power scaling in particular shows how lazy these devs are they took a shortcut for Diablo 4 catering to casuals instead of fans of the genre.
It’s not very good
I’m not a fan of the Diablo serious but I seen so many complaints about emote quest which is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard
Stop complaining, the beta itself is already a thousand times better than diablo 3.
great video!
Hillock in POE is harder than D4. D4 has too much lag to enjoy. What else is there to say.
Looks like another money grab after their last attempt
I like it. I don’t care what some old school Diablo guys think. I hated running around an area only to find out you should of went left instead of right. Only to back track 5 min the other way to find out you should have went straight.
I just hope that seasonal content become more like Destiny 2 rather than Diablo 3
They are salty idiots this game is great
Click bait. The game is fun and definitely better then 4/10
It’s not true, I love it!
I played the beta today and it sold me on the game. It’s so fun and story is interesting it’s my first Diablo experience.
Unironically, worse buildcrafting than Diablo 3
Just feels like D3 kida but better looking. If Diablo is your thing D4 will fill the hole. If you’re hoping for finally being turned onto these style of game well not gonna happen.
I played thru the beta.
It’s generic AF. The dungeons are all copy pastes. The classes, the same as theyve always been. Etc etc
Diablo 4 is terrible!
I look behind me out my window and the sun is coming up.
Yeah it’s not to bad at all.
I have this strange feeling that Diablo 4 is going to be this massive and expansive game for years. Kind of like how Destiny 2 started off as just a one-off game that may or may not have led to a sequel. Now it’s a full-fledged live service nightmare with seemingly no end. I have a feeling this is going to have a similar fate and become this game that Blizzard Will continue to support and become this massive live service. Because blizzards already headed down that path with most all of their games so it would not surprise me. I don’t know. just a feeling.
The game is so frickin good but the only flaw it has is the pricing its just a money grab when they ask you 70 dollars for such a game when there are AAA games that cost around 59
i couldnt get into anything after spending 1000 hours in grim dawn(sadly a dead game). nothing compares to it. until diablo 4. cant wait for it seriously. so far it seems more than enough to fill my emptyness.
Maybe I’m getting older, but D4 just doesn’t hold my attention as its predecessors did.
Played some last night. Went in with low expectations and I loved it. Super excited for the full release
Wow was the greatest in population because it had shit tier graphics that were available to almost anyone’s rig and internet.
It’s generic trash
Kripp is amazing. Found him during the Hearthstone era and he was just one of the best content creators out there.
WOW went woke so they will go broke.
A lot of gamers with serious daddy issues, Blizzard is a surrogate for the daddy that never wanted them.
Hi, i really like your Feedback and of course it´s easy to complain about a game at a beta and if it´s still new BUT … Blizzard has deleted a lot of Threads with critics about D4 Beta, especially in europe forums, without any explanation. This is a no go!
The company did a lot of bulls*it the last years, with one intention, to get as much money as possible, so i think hard critisicm should be allowed. Lack of innovation is only one chapter.
the forced MMO is honestly disgusting.
I’ve mostly seen positive reviews with criticisms leveled fairly at Blizzard.
Wow was super inventive and novel in so many aspects when it came out. D4 is not.
But it’s still a fun dungeon crawler, I enjoyed the last beta event a lot.
I enjoy it. I even didn’t realize what time it was and played until 3am and I had to get up for work at 6am. That never happens anymore at my age (in my 40s). I think that it has server issues like any Blizzard game since Battle net was invented back during my college years. I was there during the launch of the original Diablo as well as all the other Blizzard games (Warcraft, Warcraft II, WoW, Starcraft, etc). Servers have always sucked. Always. It’s a damn near certainty that at launch or during any Beta, the servers will suck. Blizzard, to be fair, does eventually get things up and running smoothly but to expect anything different is fiction.
I also think that a lot of the negative stuff comes from social justice warrior types who are apparently offended by some of the inner social politics within Blizzard. I honestly couldn’t care less about that stuff, that’s up to law enforcement and the legal system to deal with. I just want a good game. People who just want a good game and are tired of the perpetually offended mob are probably finding Diablo 4 to be “pretty good” or even “surprisingly good”.
This is what happens when people are much more interested in each other‘s opinions than they are about the actual product. Humans caring about what other humans think and trying to look cool…This is what gaming used to not be, it used to just being nervous making games and playing games for each other for the actual quality of the product.
click bate title, only issue ive seen people have is stability issues which will most likely be addressed before launch everything else is amazing and im excited for this next chapter of diablo
The game ain’t even out.
7:42 Yeah… I can’t, off hand, remember any game that seems lackluster a few months before launch that “held back” something amazing which put it over the top. Diablo 4 is, now, what it will be at launch.
Blizz doesn’t innovate. They improve existing formulas. lol In that regard I think Diablo 4 is great!
I like Lego too. It costs me about $10/hour to entertain myself (PornHub is free though… just saying). If I spend 20 hours on this game after purchase, then it is a win. I spent over 2,000 hours on D2 and about the same with D3. Pennies on the pound. Definitely buying it.
Agreed,, it’s kinda slow character movement and a lil clunky, hopefully it gets fixed
How can you hate something off a very small fraction of gameplay and content lol
ok thank you.
no need to buy diablo 4 then.
Lets not forget pay2win and extra p2w seasons pass
Played about 2 hours on a melee rogue and something just didn’t click. I’ve played loads of POE, D2R, Last Epoch etc. the skills themselves seemed very boring to me.
Played it for a few hours and meh. It’s boring to me.
I like it..
The game was fun from what I’ve played of it.
Unfortunately due to connection issues with the beta being a stress test, the moment I got to the point where other players started showing up, I couldn’t even move without the game stuttering like crazy and rubberbanding me nonstop.
I basically only experienced 1 side quest in the main city, and that was it, game just kept freezing every time another player was nearby.
The last thing I did was going outside to do a side quest, finding a small event that involved escorting some spirit, then died from lag.
You dont like dont play less queue for me
I think D4 will be a 7/10 for most hardcore fans. Like D3 at release. Blizzard will soon be challenging Ubisoft for the throne of mediocrity. Hope I’m wrong though.
Must be some giga PoE endgame ultra nørds. Or someone with crap pc’s that don’t understand what testing means. Best arpg ever so far. Plays like a dream on console.
If people complaining about Diablo being repetitive I’m not sure they ever played Diablo then.
Not even here to watch THE GAME IS IN FUCKING BETA? love to see these sunless cunts say that about end game LOL
To me it feels like the lovechild of D3 and Diablo Immor(t)al just with much better visuals. However, I played D2Resurrected now, for comparison. It’s just way better. Unless they overhaul most systems (and allow me to turn off ALL fucking combat text and the minimap too), I think I’ll be skipping D4.
Too much handholding of the user in the overall design. Can’t even assign attribute points (thought they’d bring them back from D2 and make them even more important since they said items will be less impactful in the overall power of a character). Camera is too fucking zoomed in, just like in Diablo Immortal, resource systems suck and completely lack variety (they’re basically all the goddamn same ‘cept for Barb’s). It’s just a game for casuals that also has grinding. No, thanks. And that’s not because more casual games shouldn’t exist, but I’ve been playing videogames for 3 decades already and handholding breaks most immersion for me at this point. It’s just too visible for experienced folks.
I think that D4 (or any diablo game) is more for “casual” players and PoE is more for those hardcore try hard no life players and I mean that in the most positive way…
Us old-time players of Diablo since the 90s, are concerned for one reason: Right now, the issues we see, what Kripp spoke about, doesn’t bother you. Good.
We’ll speak again in 10 months.
None of the seasoned veterans for arpgs you spoke of are actually seasoned or veterans. 🤦 Feel like this video was made out of desperation and boredness. 🤔
Mortal Online 2 is the new takeover of all mmorpgs
no fucking trading AGAIN in diablo game , wtf give us tradable items again like D2
Eh, D4 has less compared to other Blizzard games. WoW brought some advancements to the MMO genre including no zoning in the open world. D4 feels like a weird fork of an early builds of Last Epoch
Maybe they can do something amazing in less than three months but I’m not seeing how the game is worth $70-$100 atm.
I like Diablo 4. Some of the stuff is confusing but do a YouTube search and ur good..
i got bored before i even got to level 25 i left the beta at level 22
Maybe I’m just a simpleton but I haven’t put much thought into the details of the game, I just enjoy playing it.
Game is very dull, and wow hamster wheel. I hope end game is good, cause a lot of people are going to be mad asf. I guess it doesn’t matter, cause they’re on console and have Microsoft money.
Herp A Derp A Druggie Democrats!
Nancy Pelosi Queen of Darkness.
It has a good base foundation. We all know the game doesn’t start until max level in ARPG’s. Imagine trying to rate D3 when it first came out and the highest level you can achieve is 25. Would’ve been boring as hell. Back in the day there were barely any legend drops. Might get two if you were lucky during the beta. There was no concept of end game then either. We just have to wait and see at official launch. P.S. the UI is dog shit.
I would’ve played it if the queue didn’t go from 32mins up to 50mins all the time
I think I am from an older generation of gamers, turning 40 this year, and I clearly remember playing D1 and D2 a lot and having a great time. It was dark, gory and fun to play. D3 drift far away from that sentiment and now D4 is looking to be drifting back int the whole D1 D2 aesthetic. Hoping for a good game.
Its boring :(. i dozed off twice playing my (supposed) favorite class :/. Im struggling to even come to terms with this…
This is so full of sh*t lol. The beta is blowing up with players 😅. The game is badass, and you guys are drunk
Sorry for the link but this is so apt and hilarious https://youtu.be/QJW_8EcNzUY
Scaling progression my god. Go back to d2 with certain areas with higher level mobs
i had no exitement on dropped items like in D2R, that says everything, D4 sucks. it´s a 6/10 Game
Eh 4/10 for a demo ain’t too bad 😂.
I hate the lag and the fact that it will be online all the time but I really like the visuals, the gameplay and the classes. I’ve seen some of the criticism and it’s clearly from people who don’t like this genre or never played a Diablo game before, don’t give your opinion on something you know you won’t like, it’s like watching a football game and complaining because it’s not like hockey … For example those who say it’s too repetitive or complain that the dungeons are all the same, all the caves in act 1 or the tombs in act 2 of Diablo 2 were also identical
I think “hardcore gamers” forget that for a game to survive you need casual players, that’s where the money comes from.
Dogshit video and title, what an idiot!
D4 is 🔥 can’t wait for the full game.
I think game is not bad overall. This is not a Diablo xd. This is actually Dungeon Siege IV.
Anyway I have tried open beta, and somehow I don’t want to get back to sanctuarium world. For me skill snake and damage inflation is something which is eliminating this game for me.
Special information to the people who claims UI is designed for PS/Xbox, no it is not it sucks on the PS, and has been designed by a guy who has never had a PS for sure.
It’s very repetitive. Just spam same moves, fight none stop enemies. Everything feels repetitive. I enjoy diablo 3 more and 2.
So you rip on hardcore players complaining, turn around and say their feedback is insanely valuable? Wait what? Comparing D4 to WoW then saying you cannot compare D4 to WoW? All you did was flip flop rant, and its cringe.
Thought it was fairly boring tbh. Especially with the dungeons being so damn same-y.
I never liked path of exile so I’m happy diablo 4 isn’t like it.
You’re defending aiming for mass appeal rather than making a better curated niche game. As an eternal DII stan, I humbly disagree.
Dont even care if im the only one playing lol im ready to play some D4
Lost Ark Expansion… I mean Diablo4 = a scam.
This kind of feedback is what the BETA is for.
It was pure dogshit.. not a shock really.
I thought they would learn from their mistakes in D3… Somehow they made it worse.
there is a reason i don`t play poe..it`s way to complex…simplicity is more fun…easy to play and understand but hard to master is what i like.
I hated it as well.
I’m playing the open beta right now and I’m enjoying it quite a bit!
You make really good points about the correlation between diablo 4 and WoW’s launch. Thanks for all the work you do.
No. Everyone hates Activision Blizzard. I don’t care who releases a game. Fuck politics. I will absolutely wait and see how they try to monitise the final release. If it’s riddled with ads/is pay to win in a significant manner, I won’t be buying it. It’ll probably be fine. This practice of paying an extra 20 USD to play 4 days early is real money grabbing corpo shithousery – not a good start, but I do think it will be fine.
This game actually makes D3 look like POE in terms of complexity.
Played beta last night. Wow this game sucks. At least in the beginning. I was shocked.
It’s a neutered mobile port for children and smooth brains. “Will this stuff matter to most people?”, no it won’t. Most people are brain dead and this will be Blizz’s top selling game ever for that reason. And it is generic, boring, simple, and inoffensive enough that even Blizz’s best friend China will have no problem with it, because it is just nothing.
if you casual you buy diabo 4 if your a more hardcore gamer you play lost ark as mmo arpg just simple as that.
as it goes, i’ve played both closed beta and this weekend open beta, NECRO and Barbarian are my favorites. Miasma Necro is just so deliciously melty. and they did what i figured they would do which was combine both Necro and witch docter from D3 into 1 class. fine by me i get the best of both classes i loved lol.
however, barbarians need some love-having said that i know we dont have his unique class trait because its locked in a lv30 area which i found was kinda wtf.
Druid however, looks fucking awesome but my god it feels abysmally under powered. i think they need to scale back the spirit draw cost on the skills because for anything that even remote damages things that meter is burned instantly and building it back takes for longer than it should qwhen compared to barb and the mage classes.
over all though. i’ll be playing the shit out of it. been dying for some diablo in my life after beating D3 across 3 generations ( 360/ps4/PC) lol
Clickbait trash ytbe4
I didn`t play too much this weekend but so far I loved it, very fun and it feels like the diablo 3 we should have gotten, from skill trees, items and class selection, to the atmosphere and the way the story is played out, like it isn`t some huge power-rangers vibe we got from the diablo 3 enemies and how you are the chosen one (the whole nephlem bs), you are just a wanderer walking into a random village haunted by demons and you dwell into it, and the betrayal of the village people and how fucking creepy everything is with that flashback in the chapel.. also the game feels like it`s huge I can`t wait to explore it all, the map looks huge and the skill trees are deep
Tried to get some PoE players to play this beta, they didnt like it at the end of the session. Beyond being too easy and simple, game performance was all over the place as of now. Time will tell if D4 gets the fixes it needs and survive the review bombs if anything. Personally, im looking forward to leveling the barbarian come release.
Longevity is going to be this games problem, blizzard sucks at pumping out content at a reasonable pace and with this game looking like it is going to be really barebones at the beginning I just dont think it will be sustainable. I would not be surprised if the game has player numbers that drop below that of PoE in a couple months.
I hope I am wrong, this is my genre and I have played most games in it for coutless hours but D4 just has so many red flags for me.
Too bad for them. Game is amazing
What are you talking about? Everyone is literally raving about this game.
https://youtu.be/or7njUlYTLI here is the link about the game killing cards jayz2cents did a video
You also forgot ABOUT THE GAME KILLING 3080 ti GIGABYTE CARDS. so many ppl tried to RMA there cards it crashed the website…
would love to play the beta but the UI is all bugged and after spent all this morning and yesterdya try to fix the bug, well screw the beta!
I feel like not enough people are saying this. Diablo 4 is Diablo Immortal built for a non P2W demographic. If you played Diablo Immortal to level cap a lot of the features we are already seeing are already direct clones of what Diablo Immortal had.
i gave up on D4 because of the rumors regarding battle passes and microtransactions…
I am not interested in having them suck more money out of me, if they want to earn it, they need to make expansions worth buying.
diablo 4 is just a cheap version of guild wars 2 and guild wars 2 is completely different than wow even though wow copied guild wars 2 mounts. blizzard is lacking as an innovator
Best response to D4 so far. I played D2R alot and while it is a good game, many aspects of it shouldn’t transfer to D4, because hardcore players demand it. The risk is too high, that it is becoming a 2. WoW in later stages, with complex and punishing game mechanics like Mythic+ affixes, very hard raids and addon customization etc. . WoW Dragonflight is suffering due to feedback from hardcore players.
While some of the criticism has been fair it lacks the context of the greater overall game. We have not seen the majority of the game and demanding nerfs and balances off of what amounts to a tiny fraction of the game seems a bit knee-jerk. Let’s see how it is on launch and go from there. The big thing to nail at this point is making sure that everyone who buys the game can actually play the game at launch. If they nail the launch with minimal disruption that would be great and then lets see how the game is actually balanced once we get into the parts that will keep us coming back.
What
this beta is just dog shit. I am trying for 2 days now to get the f… game to start but it crashes everytime. Last sunday it worked just fine
I love diablo 2 still play it to this day. I played d4 for about an hour and turned it off. It’s just so meh.
So, you’re saying Blizzard used to make wine, award winning wine in fact, and now has reverted to making beer, because it makes more money. Sounds about right.
So … er … he decided … before making this video … that he’d be starting a second channel, commited to Diablo 4 content … so this video is just an Advertisement for those two things. Not a review or discussion of reviews. Got it.
My dude, why are you using steam charts to give a estimate on player count? Thats just inaccurate.
i played it for hours yesterday. i was fun.
It’s diablo 3 revamped
Played a couple hours on beta with a necro. The game did not “feel great” to me. It was serviceable at best. It’s like the release of a new album from your favorite band, but they just made an amalgam of previous successes and called it a day, and the new stuff doesn’t really fly like the old…
Also, what’s the point of having levels when the world levels with you? Then just get rid of the mechanic, and tie skill unlocks to other things.
@9:33 – Excuse me, sir? sir? SIR?
No. Just no sir, no.
That is heresy.
D3 was casual take of ARPG genre, was it good? We all know the answer. History simply repeats, casual copium creators hype it, even deep down they know this game flops after 2 if nothing ground breaking is coming up.
The combat is fun but the story, dialogue, and environments/zones feel like they were procedurally generated by an A.I. This trash is as generic as it comes. The itemization boils down to, is the number higher? That’s not interesting item design at all. Also its pretty lame how they throw legendaries around like they’re commons. Legos for everybody in every slot!! The six skill limit that carried over from Diablo 3 should have been dumpstered. The only reason that was put in is to simplify the game for consoles and controllers. The animations are made by amateurs, NPCs hands clip through each other, Horses don’t walk naturally, if you pay close attention a lot of it looks stiff and unnatural. Early impressions for me the game seems badly mediocre.
I love Diablo 4. I’ve gotten almost all the characters to 25 just in the betas. Again it is a (beta) I’ve had a lot of fun with just the beta, it looks amazing and feels good. Yes I do agree on the gear maybe being improved but we don’t know how it’ll be later on in the game. I do hope the skill tree becomes larger in the full game considering that’s the best part my opinion and will give more excitement when leveling up and customizing your build or it will be hard to keep coming back my opinion. I love the option to choose how you wanna play the rogue for example. Go all bow or blades or even a mixture. Druid is my other favorite & being able to use basic attacks and turn into werewolf is brilliant! Again my only concern is with the leveling reaching up to 100… I do hope the skill tree follows at least majority of the that time with new skills & ultimates or my fear is I’ll get bored fast with the same skills. Other then that I love this game already! 💯
Must’ve really liked d3
Level scaling is the worst thing to happen to games in forever I’d like to glove slap the guy who first thought that trash up. Nothing makes me want to play a game less than knowing all the time I spend building up a characters gear and skills is pointless as the mobs will be scaled to my level.
My only complaints are the cellars being practically a room with nothing to explore and the always online system. With how much people are “testing” the game, the lag is sometimes annoying. In regards to the rest of the complaints hardcore players are talking about, I don’t know, I guess they are looking way too much into it when all you can do is get to level 25. Reviewing the game based on 1/4th of its content is not a fair exercise, I don’t care how much of a Diablo nerd they are or what kind of pedestal they think their neckbeard community puts them on.
Blizzard sucks. Diablo 4 could be a bonafide 12/10 and I still wouldn’t play it.
I have played every diablo 3 season since S9, as well as PoE. Trailing behind current D3 season leader boards…this game is comfort food gaming for me. My job is insanely stressful to me and coming home to this means the world to me. Diablo 4s floor textures are more than enough to me. I will dungeon crawl this to forget the world for the next 10 years, just like i did for the last decade with D3.
I’ve realized that I need to stop watching other people’s criticisms of games in general. Love Forces approach as it’s a focused and balance take on it.
It’s like we all forgot that games are supposed to be fun and enjoyed, instead of nitpicking everything and if your not going at Mach 10 your playing wrong. I feel like the views on arpgs just really changed when these PoE streamers became more popular.
Anyways, the game is fun, I will play it and if I take a break from time to time because of the content that’s perfectly fine. We don’t need to be playing a single game constantly anyways 😊
as you level you will feel weaker because your gear is old…UPGRADE YOUR GEAR..yes the dungeons and the same because we are in the same area and cant go anywhere else….all the characters do great damage…just need to know how to play…if you are a druid dont try to be a sorc…Diablo 4 is like 10 other games the took all ideas and made a game…its fine…the gear reminds me of OUTRIDERS…..its fine…Love you all and ill see ya in game 😀
i do agree and yes D4 maybe wont appel the ” hardcore ” crowd, i am happy to have a new chill diablo game to play that is not over complicated
You can’t use Steam count for PoE, most players use the normal client.
Lol editor “it’s been two years idiot”. Thanks for this video.
“why would i play this when POE is better and FREE OMEGALUL” – most annoying people ever.
Diablo 4 is almost unplayable on console, its lagging so much.
Nah man, most of the complaints are nonsense, these content creators you mention (along with a handful of people) are stuck in time, they want everything new to be exactly like what they already have, be it D2 with its shit itemization that these morons praise so much, or the utter and aboslute mess that they call complexity in PoE, or w/e game they come from, I still play D2 and PoE myself btw, have more than a few hours on them.
People that farmed the pits for 20 years complaining about dungeons looking similar, in the same region/biome, what you fucking want? a tropical forest in the peak of a mountain?… hello? What? I will concede on the backtrack, it’s mildly annoying.
People from D2 complaining about itemization, the game where everyone plays caster because all the power comes from the skill tree and they can play naked ? 20 years and melee still unplayable… what? How can these people be taken seriously?
Go on son, its time for your 1000 pindleskin runs, or maybe you want to farm Mephisto? Durance of hate is a fun place, surely no backtrack there, have fun with your perfect game.
To be fair wow does look like a game made for babies the reasons companies do this is so they can make more money and tone it down so parents don’t care or mind so much it is a cartoon that looks like it belongs on the Disney channel.
$70 or wait for MS to buy Activision/Blizzard and play on gamepass?
Great review. Whole heartedly agree. On another note dude def doesn’t look like he’s 1-2 years away from 40 years old.
Fully agree. A game can have some flaws but ultimately what matters is that you’re having fun
Your recollection of 2004 coverage of WoW does not match mine. I was also a freshman in college during this time and as I recall it, the internet was awash in positive WoW coverage.
Not including the claims of supporting a company that was ok with sexual harassment at the work place lol.
Does the all time peak for PoE figure come from steam only? If so it is missing the stand alone launcher version and the console versions. Not a PoE Andy by any means, I just know that Force is a good guy when it comes to his figures and sources and I feel that this one should point out it’s steam numbers only if that is in fact the case.
So $70- plus $120- plus wifi $50- monthly so you paying $240 just to play a lackluster diablo exp of the GOOD old games 1&2 we should have gotten. BIG L.
Gamers:
Blizzard bad. Games are trash monetization is trash company culture is sexist and awful tons of legal troubles kotick is evil and their products are underwhelming.
Also gamers:
Oh a new Diablo let me preorder.
The “enemies scale to me” being a complaint is so uncalled for…that feature across games has made it so much easier to play with friends and becomes irrelevant as soon as endgame begins with higher difficulties. Hardcore crowd just mad that they can’t be pushed to the edge.
I’ll be honest, I don’t know if it’s just been so long since D3, or being spoiled by PoE or what, but I wasn’t super hype for this as everyone else, but it’s certainly not bad either lol. It’s def above average on visuals and combat alone, 6-6.5/10. What’s going to make or break this game is how repetitive endgame/dungeons and leveling alts are after the luster of beating the campaign once or twice.
Diablo was a realistic brutal exp where not only did you kill demons and fucked up stuff other players could fight and kill each other outside of town these new pussy diablo games are a childish cartoon-type feel of garbage that cost $70 paying for wifi and you need gold to join a guild and group. The Barbarian is busted and the game has been trash for a while. Let’s also not FORGET you get to TAKE other people’s shit after killing them none of this pussy PVP BG BS you kill outside of town and shit talk the other players after brutally DESTROYING them. This game is NONE of that. Sure there is some gore looks ok but it is too bright and colorful and it’s let us be real not a game meant for kids it’s more of an adult-type theme game. You can’t play this offline you can’t play with other games that are the same are FREE TO PLAY and this game you not only have to pay $70 plus the tax you have to pay for wifi you have to pay for Xbox gold which I think is an extra $10 a month which is $120 a year? This game isn’t even worth that amount of money at the asking price lol this is a huge L.
Any Exocet enthusiasts?
Yawn. Some dudes think it’s gonna suck…. some dudes I don’t know or care what they think. I’ll decide for myself.
L clickbait title
I find it annoying how the hyper nerds who spend every moment trying to break games have to dictate everything about them. Granted, we all want quality, but the incessant nitpicking isn’t helpful. Everything doesn’t have to be about endgame grinding either, it’s the journey that many of us enjoy.
160k only on steam….
11:12 Just a reminder that this all-time peak for PoE is not accurate, as it only represents the peak number of users on Steam. Many people play it through the standalone client available for download on the website, so the actual peak is probably much higher.
The diablo series will always have a hard time because of what diablo 2 did and how it felt. Diablo 4 feels much more like diablo 3 which did not feel like 2 at all. And that’s fine, this new style is liked by a lot of people. But diablo 2 will always be a comparison as a predecessor so don’t be surprised by that feedback.
the amount of damage you are doing above monsters is not necessary, do they help you?
Based on last weeks early access and this current weekend so far D4 has many flaws, but the one that really doesn’t sit with me the most is the online/MMO aspect.
Players running around and ruining events are on top of the list.
I already had a few instances where player would stand around the event and do fuck all while I kill all the mobs and then just come in and open the chest at the end of event. Loot whatever came out and piss off to another spot.
I know that everyone gets their own loot and it doesn’t matter in long run but just having other people running around my game just ruins the experience of Diablo for me.
We need the solo mode.
This guy is always negative he must get paid to give negative reviews
I’m surprised people are that into this game, everything about it seems so MID.
D3 1st playthru was a sleeping pill for me, gonna pass pn D4
i hate tone deaf channels like this. like who is everyone? majority of every review or opinion i’ve seen, everyone loves it.
smh i hate youtubers
I hate numbers popping on screen
I went in for 20min until i got disconnected and i’m not planning on playing again, didn’t like anything so far.
They already tried to WoWify the ARPG genre… with Diablo III, a game that ended up not having the kind of legs that its predecessors had. As far as PoE goes and dumbing it down for the masses… it already is. This genre has never been particularly hardcore or niche, Diablo was mainstream almost right out of the gate. Diablo II was not Ultima Online. Considering that they are clearly wanting this to be a GAAS money train, dumbing things down to the point that it is only entertaining for the sort of people who will buy it, play through the story and then drop it, would seem ill advised.
Anyway, my problem is more with the technical issues and garbage servers. No one (regardless of how hardcore or casual they may be) is going to have fun when they struggle to get their character to move through seemingly open ground because of some weird server issues.
i for one think the game is suprisingly clunky, too much animation locks and global cooldowns.
Animation lock (looks) should never be prioritized over playability, it says so on the statue at their HQ
I just want to turn into a bear and fuck shit up…
I can’t believe people are ok with $70 base game with mtx when it’s this dumbed down/simplified. Absolutely blows me away. I can’t believe gamers are ok with some of the shit they throw money at these days. People lost their shit at immortals greed but then they will turn around and happily throw $70 or more at a top down iso hack and slash that’s simplified couch controller crawler with mtx and we wonder why gaming has gotten so bad.
Really I’m quite enjoying it apart from glitches from Internet issues and lag
I played D4 with my friends last night and it was an amazing experience. Really excited for when it officially drops
I think the game is great so I guess I’m not everyone.
In my opinion, people are just so used to playing POE now that anything not as intricate as POE is just considered bad by these communities
Most new posts I see on the reddit or just casual gameplay videos. I see people are having great times and have nothing but good things to say.
Most of the issues I’ve seen are things that people wouldn’t even know about unless they played POE or it’s lag in other technical issues that have been very very prominent in this beta
You’re confusing mate… first you say u agree with all the critics, then you say it doesn’t matter. Then! You agree with it again. Then for some reason you talk about wow ending on saying wow haz nothing to do with d4!???? The game is not terrible. But it’s not good. There are better games out there for $25 or free! This is $70 game! It needs to do better! All the little things are important. Bad fonts!? One point less. Ugly ui ?! Point less. That’s it’s a 4/10.
Idk if that’s just me being better at games in general or d3 and d4 being just easy. I remember getting my ass handed to me in that first cave in d2, meanwhile I’m just face tanking the first “boss”
Scaling sucks, never feel any more powerful in this Diablo 👎
I do not hate this game at all, opposite of all that I am interested on the release build and how much will that improve after the beta.
I liked the beta a lot, I don’t care what the hardcore community thinks. Think it’s a huge step up from Diablo 3 so far anyway!
I haven’t seen a video just saying the game is dog. If anything the opposite. I can’t think of one content creator she saying “this game is dog don’t play” I hear the game is good but I’d like them to fix X, Y and Z. The major issue is the repetitive dungeon’s and chain CC. The address the barb feeling bad issue (low lvl 25 not a good spot for them compared) as of the beta D4 does have some issues but that’s to be expected. If they continue to listen to the community and fix the issues addressed it’ll be a good game easy. I’m a hardcore D2 fan and it meets the pace I enjoy, the more think about what your doing and not spam skills and clear the room in 5 sec. I’d let set items like D2 not D3 style where 1 skill does 800% wep. Dmg. I have faith it’ll be good I’m going to keep playing it
It is a fun game.
Hardcore ARPG players will likely go for PoE 2.0
But is a good and beautiful casual ARPG, in that sense it reminds me more of Diablo 3, even though the gritty look is more Diablo 2.
Well it was fun trying it out. But think my hype lies at Wayfinders.
The controller support for the game is really good. I don’t even want to use the keyboard and mouse
I don’t get the copy pasted dungeon/tile complaint. It’s literally in every arpg ever, including D2. They did nothing different and people complain.
I played trough Act 1 in a few hours today and honestly it is not for me. The whole act is bland both in design, layout and colors. I was bored to death the last hour but I forced myself to finish the story.
Now I’m equally bored with D3 and POE during leveling, so this does not really mean a lot but I will wait and watch closely how the endgame plays out during release since right now it does not seem promising.
Pity they could not make an interesting story with all that lore.
My predicti0on is that the game will be pretty much dead a month after release. I hope that I am wrong.
This is my first time playing Diablo and I’m loving it 😊. The Beta is buggy of course but besides that it’s awesome 👍 I’m definitely buying the full game.
Um… I’m loving every second of it so far
Beginning video with an intro to a future ad? Downvote. Skip to 0:14. No one gave this a 4/10 and this is CLICKBAIT. Unsub.
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Everyone’s worried about itemization and whatnot while I’m over here like:
“Why are there sidequests and outposts in my Diablo game?”
Hate it is a bit strong, it’s more like the game is slightly better than okayish and has nothing intrinsically wrong with it, and “negative criticism” actually means “we would like this game to break out of positive neutral because we do love it”
The artstyle is A1, the combat is fluid, the skill tree is simple enough for everybody to understand yet has some room for theorycrafting, and skills interactions give tactical room.
The game is fun who cares. The point of every game is to be fun isn’t it? Complexity and writing a thesis on playing a game does not make it fun. For me POE is annoying and the Last Epoch is meh. Diablo is just mindless fun that some of us who have full time jobs need to veg out and enjoy sometimes. People take this shit way to seriously. Take a deep breath and just try to enjoy it. At the end of the day, it’s just a game.
Game is too expensive with current state of the game, like the rest of the idiots I won’t buy instantly on release, those idiots who pre-purchased, good luck have fun.
What irritates me is that they’re just copy pasting a lot of skills from d3 and what’s worse is you don’t even get 5 runes to alter the skill attributes. Also not a fan of mmo components in the game. If I want to play an mmo ill play wow or an actual mmo game. No need to shove that junk into diablo
People who say positive stuff and give a good score to Diablo 4 at this moments are trolls or either have very low gaming standards. Someone who is a gamer over 27 year and a Diablo player. Diablo 4 is just bad and boring. Only thing that is has with the Diablo game is the name, everything other is flop. But I guess maybe some youtuber were paid to promote?
Hmmmm D4 is pretty sweet.. thing I hate most about it… it isn’t out yet
Can someone who’s been following D4 help confirm this:
– Did the initial screenshots/videos of pre-alpha builds have a more complex Skill Tree? (more nodes, different layout)
– If that is the case I’m leaning towards the conspiracy that those skills and nodes still exist, but they have taken them down from the skill tree and instead linked them to Legendary items. Because that’s what they look like: A way of giving you a boost/mod to one of your abilities (just like a simple skill node that you click when you get to the right level)
Assmongold opinion is nullified in the light of that he’s just an actor, nothing to back up his expertise but that he’s playing games. So does everyone here.
The other ones at least have high expertise in Diablo and ARPG games.
I really hate everyone taking his opinion face value when you also could do that with any random person on the internet, and he’s nothing special. He just got entertainment value to some.
This guy hides peoples comments he disagrees with. Damn, I used to respect Force but now I realise he’s just a sellout who cares more about clickbaiting views than actually creating useful or meaningful content. Peace out dude.
As a hardcore casual gamer I’m liking it a lot. It definitely looks and plays great. I already think I’ll like it better than 3 as that one always felt too easy, cheesy and a bit boring imo.
I mean it just a beta so hopefully we can put the review what need to be fix before the launch and hopefully bizarre Activision read our feedback.
So you listed every single thing people complained about, combined it to a review and said everyone hates diablo 4. I’ve seen clickbaits but this is just dumb.
It’s simple. It is fun now, but I feel it will get boring quickly…
These critiques come from 1% of the player base. The guys who beat a game in 5 minutes, rushing everything, trying to be meta-gamers and not finding fun in that. How about, just play the game normally?
People are idiots, the game is fking great
Its litterally worse than I ever expected it could be, And I was optimistic.
Clickbait !!!
Im not a hard-core player.. I liked to finished the story and probably dabble the end for awhile then stop. Its all good imo
I love how people say its repetitive after 1 day but will literally run the same 5 zones in d2 for 20 years 🙄
Can’t wait till everyone hops on Last Epoch 😅
Nothing will equal the feeling that WoW gave back in 2004. There hasn’t been a game even close.
Yes ….but werebear smash
I want to start with I genuinely enjoyed the beta. But I really hope the chest locations are more randomized. felt like most of the chests (not the random dead bodies) are on the sides of the open world areas leaving the centers of the map feeling emptier. I don’t want more loot or anything of that sort. Just felt like a lot of the time I was just skirting the areas because it was simply more loot efficient. hopefully at higher levels this is less noticeable (like the dungeons for example) since the pathways are narrower in dungeons it’s a lot harder to notice this. I myself enjoyed dungeons more than randomly exploring because in the “open world” I always found myself on the edge of the map for chests. It’s not a deal breaker. I just don’t see why make a big attractive world to just put most chests, plants, ores on the outer edges of the map. Am I the only one that noticed or experienced this?
I played it last weekend. Playing this weekend . I’ve enjoyed every diablo game. I still have an active wow account. I play games I like . I think some people are just negative for sake of it. But I say if you don’t like it don’t play it . Show me the games you made 😅
The one thing I have a problem with is, I was in a dungeon last night and I saw the same halls and area at least 3 to 4 times. It just so cheap.
Bad clickbait for a sponsored stream such a sellout for a bad product too
I want to buy the game but because of what activison/blizzard had done I’ll be waiting for reviews to come out if they are good I’m going all in on the game!!!! Side note I also thing people that want to buy the game and have doubts or even people who just want to buy it should wait for reviews I saw what happened to the people hyped for battlefield 2042 and I thinks it’s just all around smart to wait for real reviews of the full game.
I mean your take isn’t wrong, most people will like the game. But die hard old fans are always going to dream of innovation and improvement, and right now, from beta, this aint it.
Everyone hates it 🤔
Diablo 4 beta is actually really good from what I’ve played at least. It felt very natural if you’ve played Diablo before to pick it up the world is pretty enjoyable to explore and I do like the aspect of seeing other players around hub areas that’s pretty nice.
I can’t say anything negative so far but It’s not the full release and we haven’t seen the live service elements yet that will surely affect the full release title. So far though so good.
Diablo 4 is way too easy, so it gets boring quick
I’ve played a bit of Open Beta, and my experience is quite straightforward: it was fun, but there is no way in hell it’s worth 70 euros. 30, sure. It doesn’t have anything to offer over Path of Exile, and the latter is Free to Play.
Ahh yes I’m gonna take the word of a speed runner who’s main shtick is beating diablo 2 as fast as possible and a ginger who’s playing it because it’s the game of the week.
I’m having a lot of fun with Diablo 4 tbh. I really, really like it. 🙂
Game is super good..
yeah is a bad Game the most boring Game on the Blizzard world
It’s a fun game, for sure. Only hit 15 so far on the open beta.
I definitely have some concerns but the main one is simply the optimisation and frequent crashes really ruin the experience so far. Obviously this will be fixed, though it definitely ruins the experience TP’ing and 50-50 chance it crashes your game/black screens because the CPU/memory spiking… Crazy thing is even people with insanely good £2-3k PC’s are experiencing this same issue.
Overall hyped and really hope it shall be a great game.
THE GAME IS A 2 DIMENSIONAL BOTTLE OF SLEEPING PILLS.
blizz sux now .
From what I’ve seen there do see to be some actual game mechanics in D4 this time round which is cool to see.
But at the same time, why wasn’t this in D3 already, and why is there still so little of it in D4?
I wish ActBliz went way deep in there and revamped all the combat mechanics and objectives and actually make a complex combat system. It still looks like Cookie Clicker to me. 😖
Asmonds an idiot. Probably misspelled his names. But I wouldn’t listen to a single word outta that dudes mouth. Pretty sure he just hates good games
I think Diablo 4 is great! Way better than D3.
I grew up loving D2 and have put more than a 1000 playing it, without a doubt. But I’m not a kid anymore, I don’t have time to research, min max, and still actually play the game. The broad appeal and ease of learning the system is fairly comfortable in D4, unlike all of its competitors currently. I enjoyed POE for one play through, but it was just to complicated to make my character successful on harder settings. I want to just sit down and play the game, not research it 😅. D4 has enough complexity than can be learned with time spent playing.
I tried D4 Beta for some 6 hours today.. I dont feel the game, its kinda boring.. The items dont feel impactufull, the UI sucks, the dungeons are just ugh idk how to describe it, as if Preschool kids were designing the Dungeons, the Zones are lackluster and the Atmosphere is boring aswell, they try too hard for the World and the Ambient to be “realistic”, even tho i tought D3 was too flashy and “easy” to get into i like it more than D4.. I played D3 since day one with all the bugs and errors and it was waaay way more fun than D4… If they improve the game drastically and when i see the endgame il decide then if i buy it or not, not going to preorder it. So far it didnt satisfy my expectations at all.
i don’t hate it. i’m mostly going to hold back on judging it until i see end game. the worst part about it for me is how weak melee builds are. druid is absolute trash 1-25 and barb is barely better. i’ll be playing it at launch regardless
Havent gotten far at all, only lvl 12, but it seems fun to play. The only issue i have right now is how quickly your inventory gets full… i ran a single dungeon and my inventory was full after just that one dungeon
im getting this game in June, i know i will enjoy it because i loved D3, im sure they will continue to add content and improve on it
So bad… glad I got to play it free so I dont buy it
Im loving it, people just love to hate
people are just too much on the hate train. i will make my own mind up this time round. i agree game is fun and i think it will do well
Expectation management and good comparisons. That’s why I watch your channel.
Just play the game. Enjoy it for what it is at this moment in time.
Rykker said it was good and if rykker said it’s good then that’s good enough for me
Been having a blast with the Druid, I did a shape shifter build and he wreaks havoc with pulverize
I think the most important takeaway from what Force said is: we all at some point became quite critical of gaming but in the end the game is designed to be fun, not perfect nor necessarily an innovative experience. So… did you have fun? Yes? No? That’s what matters.
Why would you hate D4? i mean its not a bad game… tho the best part for this game is – graphics and cinematics! Gameplay, combat is a bit boring at least for me… prob ofc when they will release full game – end game will be much fun to play!
Slow news day? you chose to just straight up lie, when the game is in beta. You used to be better. Unsubscribed. Imagine having to make up bullshit so your sponsor has to pay you. I’ll be contacting Ridge and letting them know this is how you’re trying to waste everyone’s time.
11:00 diffy here is PoE is free. diablo iv 70,- fucking euro for a digital fucking ‘pre-order’.
Great vid, completely forgot about all the bad wow reviews back in 2004 lol must’ve deleted it from my mind haha
Not sure where you’re reading your comments, but I think you need to rethink your sources because I’m seeing the complete opposite. Unless you’re doing this for views?
D4 is really really good especially graphics and atmosphere
But beta itself has many serious bugs
I get disconnected every 15 mins and the problem is when I dc my entire internet is going red and I have to reset my router to fix it
If I didn’t know this is game I would totally uninstall it due to being possible virus lol
It feels like a step back from 3
It feels so dull
I launched Diablo IV yesterday, got 1 crash after I defeated the first boss, so lost all the loot, today decided to play with a friend, joined his party and not even 1 minute later the game crashed, memory error, followed by 2 other error which I tried to screenshot but ended up in blackscreens, and while this crashing took place, it also crashed Discord?!
I don’t feel comfortable playing this game. I did not expect this from Blizzard standards, this game is not ready for Beta.
D4: Graphics: improved but still looking like 5 year old game , Gameplay: same as usual with just fancy advertisements about open world and dungeons to create illusion u get something new while there are loading between maps sections, Game cost: improved, higher base cost and microtransactions. D1, D2, D3 u buy game u gain access to all content. D4 part of game content is locked behind battlepasses(payed version of d3 seasons i suppose) and other microtransactions. Paying more but getting less. With microtransactions battlepasses its no different than payed subscription like in wow to gain access to full content of game. People usually pretending like skins in game doesnt count as content. Also path of exiles is free to play game and bringing it in comparison just makes d4 look even worse with its game price. Just my thoughts and opinions. Well.. opinions varie 🙂
Great video sir
Every review I’m seeing is that they enjoy the game but the beta is awful cause it has so many problems
Diablo 3 Season 28 in my Diablo 4.
Great game, very addicting. Yes it has lag but I guess it’s something it will improve in the future.
It’s a arcade game. Ui is garbage. Could be a lot better. Item level is garbage, just upgrade if you see a green number. Where’s the uniqueness to items?
Well said
1 sec …. ist that like only steam numbers on PoE???? Are you forgetting that is has it’s own launcher or intentionally saying that ?? I’m sorry i still remember how you shilled D3 – and where it turned out to be ( in the shitter – before RoF ),
THIS FONT IS HORRIBLE. BRING BACK THE OLD ONE
Why should I care what everyone else thinks? There is just one rule to this: IS . IT . FUN ? That’s it.
For me, idk about Diablo 4. It’s always online and I’ve had it with always online. Online just isn’t what I’m looking for in games.
Well it is no real surprise to any one that Llama doesn’t like it.
I gave it a fair try yesterday and today and honestly im not that impressed, the world achievments and so on are ok but the classes in general feel just boring in compare to other hack and slay games. This whole spaming useless low dmg or singletarget skills to build resources to use the main dmg skill 2-3 times and than use the low dmg shit again just dosnt feel good. Also the biggest thing for me was the necromancer because of its minions and it feels simply wrong. The minions feel more like an gimmic than the main skill/part of this class with far to short aggro range, dmg and they run way behind your own char. This dosnt feel even half as good than the minion build from torchlight infinite. Yea i know people hate torchlight but for me it has the most entertaining minion class from all hack and slays out there.
Also the combat in general feels slow somehow in compare to PoE, TI or even Last epoc
i really like it, but then again, we have only seen a small part of the game, so i have yet to see to judge
I totally agree with you. I played D4 for some time now and at this point in time I already made up my mind that the game is great and I don’t care anymore about negative reviews. I like playing it.
People are really complaining, literally a beta KEKW. We don’t have access to much lol. People expect to much from a game.
meh i’ll wait for poe 2 lol most likely its already a wayy better game :/
Power scaling = not good mechanics, but overall the game is very good and people will just be nitpicky. Diablo lives on repetitiveness, D2 is the KING of repetitive gameplay. It’s literally where the game shines. People asking for more variety in the levels are the same who will TP to the boss using maphack and ignore the level entirely.
I thin d3 was literally obe of the worst games ever.bor8ng,plodding,just hit 1 button over and over.I deleted asa I finished Is D4 similar? If so,I’m out.
Melee builds seem a lot weaker than range builds. That’s why sorc and necro are insane on the beta right now.
The combat is so badly designed for melee it’s a wonder if they even have a clue what they are doing, D4 won’t be a 10/10 hell it’ll struggle for a 7 as it is now
Almost all of those complaints people have only matter to people who nolife the same game 80 hours a week and base their entire personality around it. For casuals, D4 has been amazing so far.
11:09 160k players only on steam.. most PoE players use the stand alone client version.. specially chinese & asians.
Im really not in a hurry. I will wait one or maybe two months after release and see what the game really is. Because balls on the table now guys, diablo is about the endgame, the itemization and variety you can do with even seemingly bad white or grey stuff. Thats what D2 has done extremely well, and thats the reason people play it to this day.
Dont get me wrong, D4 sure looks nice and all, but all we got is a little glimpse, technically we dont know shit about the game and how it will be in the end. To me the most concerning aspect are the mmo bits here and there. Thats just not Diablo to me. And i think thats the biggest problem of the game, the Diablo name. Because people have certain expectations to the name.
I don’t play Blizzard games, they’re owned by Chi-Comm’s .
Tou don’t suppose to be THAT STRONG at lvl 25.
D2 took me all the way to act 4 to feel strong.
20sec I to the video you show someone who has been playing diablo 2 since he was in diapers.
The people who play D2 for 20 years can’t move on…..just saying
Innovation in a game is terrible for me cause of change that im not ready for. Doom eternal for instance is mario with guns. I cant stand the platforming and the nauseating movement around the map in a fight. I just wanna use my super shotty and kill, but to do that i need cheats. Sad really when doom 2016 came out i was in love and i made demons my b**ch with my ssg and then eternal gets a trailer and its constant movement. Then it was downhill from there.
EverQuest for the win!!
I honestly get this feeling channels like this are forced to say “having tons of fun” because of their audience and access to future content from developers, not the actual fun of the game.
well when you have a group of players by the balls buying every fart your company releases, of course bad reviews dont matter! Welcome to fandom.
Its surprising people see this more then a reskinned Diablo 3 to cut costs.
This was half reality half apologetic
I tried the Beta with an open mind. Honestly, I was really looking forward to it. Overall, everything felt super bland and meaningless to me. It’s evident that this is a mainstream game made for a broad audience. I felt like my choices barely mattered. It feels like gear upgrades and upgrading skills has no real impact. I tried three classes and overall, I was super bored after reaching level’s 10-15. It’s just a very meh game, like something like AC: Valhalla I can see this doing really well since it’s very accessible and designed to be for a wide audience. For me, overall, I’m very disappointed and I guess this game just isn’t for me. It didn’t hook me in any way. I felt like my choices didn’t matter at all. Furthermore, it really did feel like Diablo Immortal, it felt like it had mobile game elements which I absolutely hated. I respect your opinion and thoughts though, Force. I hope anyone who enjoys this stuff has a good time, I guess I’m just an old man now (turning 30 this year). 🙂
Coming from Last Epoch the combat in D4 feels clunky and uninspired. The class balance is horrendous and it doesn’t usually get better in ARPGs as you get into late game. By 25 you’re nearly all the way down the skill tree so there’s no reason you should still be having combat problems. Heck almost everything about the game aside from world and sound design feel uninspired. Kinda shocked me.
The who world scaling bit killed it for me tbh. Killed wow for me as well
d2 still better wharap blizz :d
So many points in this video are wrong or straight up lies.. I just cant man.. As soon as he said that POE peak is 160k.. The game that nobody plays on Steam or recomends to play on steam.. Im good that was the last straw. (uh thats not enough for blizzard.. BTCH.. Diablo 3 DREAMS of numbers POE has.. Are you fkin serious)
I think i get your points.. DIablo 4 doesnt need to be good.. Diablo 4 is for casuals that just want to game to look nice. Doesnt have to reach standards people want from a good game and waited over a decade for.
Sure.. You are wrong.
D4 is a scam, imagine having such visuals and graphics in 2023… lol
for me this game bring nothing new, so i ll not play the game
I get what you’re saying but I disagree. The palatable mass market ARPG was Diablo 3. This one is a deliberate response to PoE. In that arena, it’s not even close. The massive lack of synergy between abilities and gear just scream unfinished.
To be fair, a lot of the criticisms of WoW early on were pretty valid and ended up getting fixed in later patches / expansions. I still have some reservations about the loot issues and level scaling in D4 and I’m holding out to hear more about what endgame will be like.
please tell me any APRG that had exciting and game changing uniques in other ARPG at level 25 from the first act :P? NONE!
AS OF LEVEL 25! … Bruh.. there is litteraly only one set of skills left for you to get AS OF LEVEL 25!. Your build is done.. The dungeons will be in endgame. We have acces to probbably all uniques. AS OF LEVEL 25.. For people who played beta sadly doesnt mean much.
The only thing i care about now is the end game which is not obviously aviable AS OF LEVEL 25..
But still.. this argument is lazy and valid at same time.
Is Paragon gonna give us new skills? or just stats? Are the enemies we fight now AS OF LEVEL 25 gonna dissapear in late game and we gonna only fight new ones? Are the dungeons we play thru now AS OF LEVEL 25 not going to be included in the late game? Are the “buffs and nerfs” to your character we saw really gonna be in the end game? if so oh boy.. We got some problems. oh and Balance??? I dont think they even know what that means.. Just look at the new Necro build people spam where youre litteraly exploding the whole scream while being IMUNE to damage NON STOP.
All the critcisims people you mentioned had.. Are valid and need to be said more.. Especially in a beta phase.
Now lets be honest. Blizzard thinks they know best and mostly dont really give a fk about our feed back(Maybe thats why they wernt able to release good game in the past 8 years).. Hell they wont be able to fix it in 2.5 months for sure..
Its still better to complain about stuff we dont like and have a chance of them getting fixed than doing nothing at all.
Whhhaaaat?? Diablo 4 is amazing !
I dont think that 160k active PoE users is accurate though.. community seems much bigger and better involved.
So you’re saying D4 is to the ARPG genre like what WoW was to Everquest? wow. WoW redefined mmorpgs and made it available to the masses, and streamlined PvP, etc etc
Are you really making this comparison?
Everybody loves Diablo IV. Is the real title. A little mistake.
Happens to the best of us don’t worry
Id give the game a 3 max looks trash
Remember gamers: its called a beta.
Should have added “beta” to the end of the title. 😅
Well the fonts thing is it’s just annoying having 25 different fonts on my screen. Makes the game look cheaper and unfinished
Level scaling did it for me, hate this stuff.
D4 is just another MMO, with no soul..
Been watching Ur content and noticed i wasn’t subbed, sry bout that ✌🏻
I actually couldn’t give a damn about these overly critical, level 25 reviews. This is the most fun I’ve had in a game in about 15 years. My crew is super hyped to play this game and we’ve had an absolute blast so far.
This game is so boring after 20 years, I can’t even finish watching… this… review? Anyways.. enjoy killing The Butcher for like the 5th time in better graphic
I think peple are still salty for D3 and Blizzard of today is nowhere near the blizzard of yesterday.
D4 will just be another mediocre cash grab. Sure it’ll make money from “casual gsmers” but will unimpress the more hardcore among us those who want an actual challenge who want and actuallly good game that isn’t yet another cash grab. We have Have Last epoch Poe and soon to be POE2 hell one could argue lost ark is s better Arpg/mmo than D4.
Honestly kind of a cope video. Dungeons are supposedly the end game/areas that are going to be highly farmed and played. Maybe they change in Act 2 and onwards, but there are maybe 2 or 3 out of the 20 ish dungeons that we got to play that have anything memorable about them. They all boil down to “run a really long way in a straight or mostly straight line, run to a room, get a key, run to another room, get a key, and then open the door. Btw now you have to kill everything in this huge ass next section, THEN you get to fight the boss.” Every dungeon is literally a chain of boring mmo fetch quests before I get to the fun part of killing bosses.
Don’t get me wrong, Diablo 2 (my favorite one in the series) had bad dungeons too, but guess what? EVEN THE *BAD* DUNGEONS were MEMORABLE. Maggot Lair? All my homies hate Maggot Lair and remember the LOD days where you couldn’t run through minions (thank FUCK they fixed this in D2R and made it a BIT more bearable but it’s still a horrible area). Everyone hates/remembers Kurast Sewers with all the dolls that could kill you in a millisecond if they happened to inch too close to you and you hit ’em with an AOE spell. And the dungeons everybody loves? I C O N I C. Everyone who’s played the series for this long knows Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone/Baal. Everyone knows Countess and Andariel. Just about everyone has farmed Ancient Tunnels or Pit. Everyone’s farmed Pindleskin. Should I even bother elaborating on why Cow Level is so memorable?
You wanna know the one thing all these great dungeons in D2 have besides being iconic and memorable? They didn’t involve some boring fetch quest to get to the fun part (killing the damn boss and getting my cool gear and XP and doing it again). And often if it WAS a boring quest (because I KNOW I’m gonna get some dummies in the comments that say “b-b-but Diablo 2 had boring shit like clearing all the mobs in Den of Evil so why are you okay with it there and not here in D4?!?!”…Shut the fuck up lmfao), you at least got good rewards for the boring fetch quest (Den of Evil quest literally gives you a skill point each time you complete it on each difficulty.). AND, if I want to I can SKIP some of the boring fetch quests that don’t have that good of rewards (Blood Raven being a good example), AND I only have to complete those boring fetch quests ONE time per difficulty. These dungeons in D4 though? They’re intended to be ran over and over, and they have the same boring fetch quests/chores that I HAVE to do to get to the fun part of killing the dungeon boss. If they fixed this ONE aspect of dungeons in D4, a lot of my complaints with the game will evaporate. Fixing this ALONE will easily bump my points up from 4/10 game to at least a 6.5 or a 7/10.
Fixing all the other nitpicky shit like ugly af UI, or no transparent overlayed map, memory leaks/poor optimization which is really annoying especially when I have hardware above the recommended specs, ability to only track one quest at a time, or how zoomed in the game feels (let me see this pretty world you’ve created damn it, I don’t get to see hardly ANY of it because the game would rather stay zoomed in on my character.), would easily bump it up .2 here, .3 there, .1 there and I’d probably easily find myself calling it at least a 7.5 or an 8/10. For $70, imo, with all these things I’ve mentioned in mind, it’s definitely not worth it. Last Epoch, for all the bugs it has going on in the current patch rn, is a more complete and interesting ARPG. And it’s half the price. PoE, as much as I HATE that game and how much bloat exists in it, is free to play and is a far more complete and interesting game. Lost Ark, as much as there is p2w in it, you can theoretically play f2p and progress all the way to end game without spending a dime, and it won’t take you an absurd amount of time either. All these games respect your time AND your wallet much better than this game does. If you’re still enjoying D4, all power to you. I’m not telling you to stop. I’m simply saying that I wish that Blizzard respected your time and money a little bit better and that they showed it in the way they designed their game.
You would expect on a followup game to take everything that’s best from the previous one and then improve and add up…how is it possible to miss core features that where there in diablo 3? :/
i like it alot
Diablo IV is a great iPhone game.
Only idiots don’t like Diablo 4
Boring lvl 9000
I HATE Isometric style video games/Top-down perspective video (especially if they are mmos/rpgs)
i dont want innovations. It’s nice to have something new, but not crucial. What I want as a player is a good immersion story and good gameplay (not just spam rightclick, not blind “anything work” builds, not “+green items are better” etc).
– Leveling monsters to player level – sux, it really kill progression feeling.
– Skill tree not far from d3 kind “get LMB generator, then get RMB spender, then get utility skill etc etc”. Yes its a much better then in d3, still it’s not a “tree”, but a singlebranch “highway” with some crossings.
– Weapon limitations: like barbarian cant use crossbows, sorc cant run with 2h sword etc… just limit some (stupid maybe but fun) variations and feel for freedom. Still i like the fact skills now require (and use) exact weapon type slots for a skills, like you cant rend with hammers etc.
– Also scaling spell damage with weapon dps (d3-ish) is also killing diversity in stats-hunting and kill immersion.
overall visuals looks nice, sounds and music are very cool. It looks like story get more work than d3 (trash), it can be interesting (still sad no Diablo in d4?).
Yet alrdy got some stupid shit with scenario:
– every character due to plot will get poisoned with the same trap-setup? Feels not only boring, but also like all sanctuary are stupid.
– few minutes later get to random dude and dinner with him LOL. Plain stupid.
Overall hate these kind of no choice decisions your character do during cutscenes. Not fun. I would prefer d2 alike scenes, where were no cutscenes, but some action/acting just scripted around
Only about 30mins into the open beta, and in my opinion, the storytelling is already 1000x better than any other Diablo title. The intro cutscene with your character alone does a great job at setting the scene and tone to the game.
Star craft is a much more complex game than C&C ever was.
I should probably try it more classes but I went with druid and combat feels sluggish. Then unsure if it’s by design or the technical issues of the open beta but it feels unresponsive. A rather large ramp up mechanism before you do whatever you clicked. Then as others have said it feels designed for ranged. And you will have a better experience by picking ranged abilities.
The game feels like Diablo 3.1. I hated Diablo 3, so there will be no changes other than fundamental redo that would make it fun for me, uninstalled beta will play D2 for couple hours instead.
Hope people enjoy the game, but disappointed I still didn’t get a good game for myself 🙁
This game looks and feels too much like Wolcen and last Epoch.
Comparing this game to wow vanilla is extremely irresponsible.
dont like the scaling
From the few videos i’ve watched I saw that they were making PvP another focus and im EXCITED to see how that system plays out and the rewards for that system.
Bull crap , game is awesome and every other REAL review says the truth! Don’t understand why you just gave up your credibility… For views?? Real lame
I doubt anyone will enjoy that kind of level scaling. It’s been done. It’s been done before. It’s been done to death. And people just never like it. Could be the thing that kills it despite the best in class graphics. Also arpg is already a simple kind of game. Does it need further streamlining?
Asmo gave the beta a score of 8.5 and Kirp gave 6.5, those are not bad scores man. There are a lot of things to be improved and the criticisms are valid, however, most of them ignore that we have not yet seen anything fro the game, class balance for lvl 25??? WTF, lets see what will happen after the release. I actually am enjoying the game a lot, even updated my prepurchase, however, yeah, if the dungeons is what we will have for end game like 2 leagues after release, I will be disappointing, however, I definitely love the game and will sure love it the way it is for a least a league or 2. If the guys from Blizzard are seriously taking the feedback they are getting, than they will add more end-game to the game and D4 will become better and better every league.
I absolutely love the level scaling BTW, this is the way your leveling experience and capaign can feel different every time
This video is just a bunch of bullshit clickbait dawg
It’s a beta for a reason, understand what that means.
Something I feel like me and other actual old Diablo players dating back to D1 would actually understand.
I have to try open beta, this weekend, maybe if I will have luck with login in. But from what I’ve seen, I wanted single mode aRPG (h&s) not MMO aRPG, and scaling enemies stats is a big no-no for me personally… so, I think will wait till first discount at the end of the year or something.
I’m curious 🧐 When people criticize Diablo four and compare it to other Arpg’s are they comparing it to the full game or beta phase. Especially older games that had time to spread their legs and grow. I don’t think it’s a 9 or a 10 at it’s current stake, but I feel like blizzard is going to fix some issues and look at the major ones down the road. Would hate to see this game flop because people are bias. Guys just play the free beta and just make your own opinions.
such a chill vid for d4
Game looks good, combat feels good. But, if act 1 itemization is any indication of endgame, it’s unbelievably boring. Also the skill tree is just…awful. Drop rates are way too high. Like, I’m shocked at how bad the skill tree and balance are. There is nothing interesting, nothing innovative, no depth at all to itemization and skills. The whole skill tree feels wonky and extremely poorly balanced, unintuitive. I honestly think they need to delete it and start over, don’t release the game until next year. I think this game will only keep the attention of hardcore players for 2-3 weeks tops. Which is a damn shame, because I really think the game looks amazing, the story is pretty solid. I just don’t understand why they rug pulled everyone into acting like they really put time and effort into itemization.
90% of the Legendary aspects should be deleted and integrated in to the skill tree as additional options on the dumb little skill forks they have, and actually interesting aspects should be added. Making a bunch of highly specific aspect powers which give more damage to specific skills, literally just makes those aspects mandatory. It’s no different than using Sets in D3, it removes any choice. There’s just no thinking required, and it’s such a damn shame. Also, the balance is just embarrassing, multiple Immortal builds, and melee characters feel like complete trash. But hey, I’m an idiot so I’ll be playing it in June.
Honestly graphics looks like shit for 2023……and no Crusader class? Wtf
Its a beta. And a great one at that. Maybe you YouTubers should make a better game. Never happy
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Yeah, but when the game asks 70€ and doesn’t even bother to have fonts consistency or the usual OG Blizzard polish, you know it’s asking too much from you to spend. The game feels like something that should cost no more than 20€ and has that free 2 play stigma all over it. And somehow it does not feel connected to either Diablo 2 or 3.
Not everyone hates it…just entitled white guys with beards who do nothing for a living.
To be brutally honest, it’s the same shit. Sure they’ve added some new systems but there’s nothing interestingly new at all.
By far the best most reasonable video I’ve seen among all the hate posts. Kripp did a fantastic job of criticizing the game without shitting on it also.
This is obviously not supposed to be POE with its insane skill tree and builds, it’s clearly made to be more marketable and more mainstream so it can bring more people. Why would anyone expect anything different from Blizzard is beyond me. That’s what I’m expecting. I like POE and i like complexity, but I don’t mind something simplier for chill out purposes. I will most likely play it for a bit on release, but it’s unlikely to be my main game.
Sounds like click bait
I’m not seeing anyone say they hate Diablo 4👀
Only thing I don’t like is the fact that u can constantly roll
I won’t play diablo 4 anyway unless they start to update hots again.
just go for poe 2
Fix the item icons blizz!!! Thats what bothers me the most…the graphics in the icons are rly terrible and simple…
Probably whining shitty casual FPS players who play Diablo for the first time ever. Diablo 4 is all I wanted.
Power Scaling? Garbage system/mechanic. Looks like another game I’ll be waiting a year or two to play. No way I’m touching this this year at full price. See y’all next year on discount.
Path of Exile is better. I played Diablo 3 and POE, POE is much better, but Diablo has better lore story about gods and demons
“I’ve never played it, I’m just going off everyone else’s opinion. But please listen to me.”
boring game
I’ve played D3 pretty hard and still enjoy it, so I’m very disappointed that D4 is pretty underwhelming so far, so much so that I was almost bored. You hit on two things I’d noticed – pickups have lost their spark, and enemy levelling feels disproportionally difficult. It’s not in my buy list yet, I guess it’ll depend on how it shapes up in future.
D4 is notfor my 70 euros, its totally horrible running on my PC.
guy shows action when the most part you run around looting nothing and spend time just running bangin your head at frustration that the game is a style you hate to play just like CS go – which i count as responsible for ral world teoorsim
Is the gameplay/combat great? Then some form of repetition is okay. I feel like people are blinded by that now. All games even the greatest games ever released I can think of can be repetitive.
My criticism is the male sorcerer looks like a twink, as does most character look crappy andgay.
Hm, a few days ago everyone was loosing their minds about how perfect this is.
My take – blizzard is dead and their so-called games don’t exist. Because they are not games.
Wod, shadowlands, bfa are both easy games for the masses and they failed. We don’t know what diablo 4 might be at end game but from i’ve seen in beta, the concerns are all valid. If blizards are looking for a quick buck ( which it seems that way before they sell to microsoft ) then they have succeded, but longevity is probably dead for this game. I think you’re drinking high amounts of copium but I do hope you are right and I am wrong, at the end of the day, I want diablo 4 to be a great game.
D4 looks like a game you play for a week and then go back to POE & LE. So why waste a week?
I don’t know what they were trying to do with it? Some dark souls?
For me i wish the game was as hard as diablo 1 felt. Dark gritty slow burn rpg. But it just feels too easy these days. You have to grind to end game to get challenging content but the game should feel challenging from the start but also satisfying when you got a new piece of gear. They seem to get that so wrong most of the time.
Someone that has played old dosgames a lot – I dont play games like the main goal is “where is it” hack at every crate wall every look in evey noocky talk with everyone for clues , its bs for me , where is it hack at wall 1 ,where is it pounce wall 2, where is it walk over there pounce these , where is it 697 wall – it bs for me and the fog shite ,when will devs ralise fog is s hite
I’m surprised that you’re surprised that people are surprised, it’s quite surprising.
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I wonder how much was left out of the beta such as dungeon variety, gear, mobs, etc. that’s planned to be in the area in the beta so that Blizzard could test out the basics
Krip had the best analysis. He’s the Diablo OG.
I canceled my preorder. Unacceptable to be paying $145cdn and not being able to play the open beta. Waited 30+ minutes then couldn’t connect and had to wait another hour to try again that is bs. I’m done with it 👎👎
THE ITEMS. They still have forgotten about the core reason Diablo ii was the most successful ARPG and will be for the end of time. It is the items. i am very disappoint to see they used the same UI as the boring D3 itemization and seemingly the same design. Not sure I will waste time hoping this is the “new diablo ii”, and just keep playing the OG Diablo ii.
to many people area judging to early. wait until release. the beta is just to test it and doesnt mean the game is going to be what it like beta.
I played the beta for a few hours today. Eh, it was ok. Not bad, not great. Ok.
I feel like there is just something lacking. It feels generic. Like a copy of a copy of a copy.
D4 doesnt seem to bring anything new to the table.
D2 had cube, runewords, charms, mercs, jewels, etc.
PoE had maps, it had currency-as-crafting materials, it had linked sockets in items, it had skills as gems, it had the huge skill tree.
Shit even torchlight had dogs you could send to town to buy and sell loot for you. It was innovative.
Even Wolcen had the town that you could unlock to progressively add features to the endgame.
D3 had rifts, love em or hate em, but d3 was lacking in other innovations which is partly why d4 seems to also be lacking, because it feels incredibly derived from d3.
What genre changing feature does d4 have?
They could have a magic anvil that you can access from inventory in the field to craft items with or a merc system that lets you bring one of your alts in as your merc, or a new equipment slot for a banner that gives you buffs that only work on other party members to encourage group play. Thats just 3 quick ideas off the top of my head and blizzard spent how many years on d4 and came up with…nothing it seems?
It doesnt mean d4 is bad it is just….generic, and i find it disappointing i guess.
My biggest gripe with D4 at the moment is.. there really dont seem to be any super interesting class to me. where is my amazon esque job that works with spears and javelins, why does the rogue have to use dual wied / range, why cant they use a sword + small shield. where is the Character smashing mobs in the face with a shield. It just feels like something is missing.
i like the game, but …
the UI is terrible and really destroys the immersion
the music sucks compared to all other diablo titles and does nothing to draw you into the environment
did i mention how bad the UI is?
Love the game! Improvement needed, sure but the basis is superrb
When I started hearing people talk about the F****** font, I about lost. There’s no helping those people. Let them sob in misery while we all have fun grinding d4.
Played the beta, its fun!
For someone with shitty internet connection, this game is unplayable… not buying until they announce offline mode
i tested d4, for me everything in the game screams money grab to me . i paid for it and now my money is a hostage of blizzard store.. i truly hate blizzard, i mean really hate big corp.
Mr Llama just hates everything in life thats not D2
Nobody has mentioned this so I will. Why are there going to be mounts? Teleports are so close given the size of the map (This is NOT WoW) so… I am not complaining, however what’s the point. Instead of running on foot for 45 seconds from a Site, we might instead run 25 seconds…? The world map let alone distance from portals isnt great enough to justify mounts…
There are many words I would use to describe the D4 beta, but hate is not one of them.
we do not even have the full game, all the perks and features, yet people act like this is what live will be as it is now.
Too big to fail??They said the same for Disney and Marvel….but when you just produce utter shi** full of monetization and money scams..sooner or later the users will see it.
Lets be real. d4 is bombed review on the darksode by mostly POE fans and content creators.
No matter how delicate and chill they”re own opinion is exposed.
We than have the veterans that expected D2 style of game- not even Poe does that.
It also has bad rap cuz blizzard trend has bad rap, and we all know why.
Also they kinda judge only the cover, without reading the whole book.
D4 isnt meant to beat POE, its bad they didnt go more the route of D2, but the game looks triple A, feels triple A and if im sure of somth, will be better than D3.
Nowadays negativity and bomb reviews are like the air we breath. Toxic from all this emisions.
It may not be the hero game we all expected, but its not the villain also.
It has the potential to evolve and be a home for people who dont want a POE like experience.
Min curios to see the full game, for the moment game looks awsome and feel fine.
Diablo4 just don’t know wanna be Lost Ark … or Path of Exile … is a mix bag and i hope their new fomula works
I’m. Enjoying both the closed and open beta
Could argue Starcraft was a lot more complicated than Command & Conquer
Need of improvement? the game is so boring, I couldn’t last 10 hours in the Beta
I mean, if you say you love a game everyone else love, you can’t call yourself hardcore right?😂
I HATE that’s it is an online only mmo and that you have to have a PS plus subscription to play!!!
So disappointed and will not be buying!!!
This game good af. Dont let these youtube dweebs finnesse yall out of a good game with over the top technical analysis. Load up. Have fun. Stop letting youtubers ruin the experience
Yeah, I’m having a good time in D4 so far.
Last Epoch is 10x more fun.
This game is great. This guy is an idiot.
No everyone does not.
Nah. It’s fun. Chill.
dude, the font theory comment made my day, was not expected but was greatly appreciated 😀
I just can’t wait for the fully functional cash shop weeks before promised functions are in the game. This was my first time playing a Diablo game. Absolutely loved it, didn’t think anything needed changing, I’m having a ton of fun.
Really like it so far. Love the Dark Souls atmosphere of the first areas and the musics. I think this is a world where I could roam after the main story with pleasure.
Problem is that game is boring. It is fun for 10+ hours but 1000? I can not imagine
There is no class balance in D4. The barb sucks and the necromancer and rogue are the strongest classes. I do hope class balance will be a thing at launch. I am happy they brought back the talent tree. I would say Talen trees, but there is only one talent tree. I really like enchanting in Diablo 4, because it makes the items more customizable and interesting. I wonder how many people who think the itemization is just bad actually did enchanting. Because that is pretty complex compared to just getting a item. My biggest criticism is the succubus isn’t naked like in Diablo 1 through 3.
If this is shade for immortal then it’s well deserved
Most of the critical reception has been overwhelmingly positive so far. As someone who grew up on D2 and hated D3, I’m loving D4.
I just don’t like the cd if the skill . Well 10sec below I still acceptable. 30 to 90 sec ?? Really ??
I think anyone interested in D4 should just play the beta and decide for themselves, assuming u can actually get in and stay online that is. I played the early access beta and to date im only lvl 19 cos i keep getting dc’d.
The problem with watching reviews by content creators who are very active in one specific main game is that they will almost always be heavily biased toward that game. This effect is made exponentially worse if said main game is closely related to or in the same genre as the game being reviewed, such as watching a D4 review from an active D2/D3 player or active PoE player. It’s not wrong, it’s just human nature and no matter how objective they try to be, their reviews are still gonna be highly subjective. “They did this different from D2/D3/PoE, therefore it’s bad.”
Then if you take their respective audiences into consideration, that’s another layer of pressure.
“They did this different from D2/D3/PoE but i actually like the change”
“Damn shill!”
“Must have been paid by Blizzard for this review”
“How does the sponsorship money taste, sellout.”
Point is, I would take such reviews with an ocean of salt because there are just too many legitimate reasons and incentives for these creators to be subjective and biased.
Remove the Diablo title and say it was made by EA and it would be totally credible.
The current state would be fine if they were 2yrs away from release date, not 2 month. Or it was a F2P + BattlePass. In that case, no critic would matter because the game would be FREE.
Paying that amount of money upfront without even knowing if the remaining will even be good is unwise considering Blizzard past, just the shear amount of bait and switch they did with Immortal. Too often, Blizzard released half-baked product that didn’t worth is price and only managed to fix their stuff many months later after seeing customer base bleed away. They don’t need to deliver a good game, they just need to deliver a product just good enough to convince people to open their wallet, then deliver each season the bare minimum to make people buy a battlepass. The exec don’t care if you play or like the game, just send the money and shut up.
Heck, one of the main reason this was turned into a mmo-like open world is so we can see each other skin/xmog and be tempted to buy them. They couldn’t do that with D3 as everyone is in their own game. Each character will be a walking Ads for the BattlePass/InGame Store. That itself isn’t a big issue as PoE doe exactly that. The main difference, PoE is free. They will probably rotate which class will be OP every season, because everyone will want to play it, and will of course buy the new skins to go with.
I’m curious about something for console. Blizzard already stated even on couch-coop, every player need their OWN battlenet account. Which mean if, let say an adult and 2 childs play the game, cosmetic won’t be shareable between them. They’ll need their own battlepass. That’s 1 game + 3 battlepass right away.
“Daaaaaad, can I have the same costum as my sister for my sorceress?”
“Sorry honey, that costum came with your sister battlepass she got for her birthday. Yours is in 4 months.”
“But daaaaaaad, I want one tooooooo!”
Dad pull out his CC and buy a 2nd battlepass….
God their marketting dept are genius. No wonder why they get a better pay than the devs.
People will cry all the time!Thw Diablo 4 is good and need some problems to fix and will be the best game for sure!I can find you 10000 ways to cry because something don’t like you!Dont cry all the time and play the game!If don’t like don’t play go play fornite!
for me first camera sucks. camera is too close like I playing at 800-600 or on tablet, we need to chave option too zoom out like 3 times. skills tree sucks is too small, not too many skills to choose and modifications are soo bad mehh. its piss me off thats somebody is killing my mobs while I doing some random activity. skills tree need to be in vertical on full screen.
no new class to choose, there is a rouge its ok little bit like assassin but we already should have all class from all diablo ver. plus completely new class because now is boring to play to see the same class the same skills or some small minor changes in skills tree thats are weak as F. blizz is lazy and they completely avoid to answer for most hot topic issues.
there is more and more but maybe after one year form premier of this game, maybe some big issues like camera to close or skills tree sucks or no new class will be resolve.
A lot of people were expecting it to be an updated clone of D2 and it isn’t, so they are butthurt about it. Overall I’m enjoying it. It has it’s problems and nitpicks for sure, but it isn’t nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be. And most of the ones crying and complaining I guarantee will still end up playing the damn game after all the bitching and crying.
We can say all we want about how silly Diablo 3 was but at least every single point of every single point in the game that you came across had some kind of story connected to it. I’m doing overworld then dungeon then overworld then dungeon. All the while I’m not getting a single piece of information from it. What is it’s side story? How does this side thing connect to the whole? I have questions. I want answers and Diablo 4 is not giving me answers.
It’s alright, I just don’t see how it’s a $90 game. Half that would be much more palatable.
So the synopsis of this video is all the criticisms of D4 are accurate, but we should all buy it anyway??? They literally took a page out of EAs book (ie. Madden and FIFA) and almost made the same damn game as D3, with slightly upgraded graphics. Has everyone forgotten Diablo Immortal?? How long will it be b4 they start implementing the monetization crap from DI? 6 months?? a year?? Activision Blizzard is a shell of what Blizzard once was. GG to the gaming industry if this is what we have to look forward to…
20 minutes video and he doesn’t talk about how Blizzard sh*t the bed with Diablo Immortal. Nothing about how this game will have microtransactions. How Blizzard bleeding players in every game. The hardcores are right to ring the alarm bells. All the signs of a disaster are here.
Finale some one say he we gonna play the game like its gonna be fun
I’m sorry but you can’t casually play this, at launch retail is $80?! that’s an investment man, I need returns on that.
Then go create a game if you are better
“It’s been 2 years idiot.” 😂😂😂
I love editors’ commentary
I don’t hate it, it just feels more like an Activision game than a Blizz game.
While I also like the shared world aspect because seeing around players makes the game feel “busy” and alive, I also dislike the fact that this may lead to potential balancing issues, where I was sometimes encountering random mini bosses that were way above my level. But this is Beta, and I am hopeful that this was just a hiccup on the matchmaking system.
Also the drops were too generous. I guess this was intentional for Beta, but I sure hope progression feels more rewarding when it comes out. There was also very bad stutters EVERYWHERE due to the shared world system. The textures are uncompressed and unoptimized as well, and I am kind of worries on that aspect if they only have 3 months to fix everything, especially seeing that a lot of the areas were hand-crafted and not procedurally generated. I could be wrong of course, and hopefully we see a much, MUCH more smoother experience once it comes out.
The combat does feel very good though. There are some minor issues with movement, and the cursor recognizing you’re clicking an enemy (could be hitbox or register issues), but overall it still feels like Diablo 2 in terms of greatness.
I think the game will fall or rise depending on how impactful the legs and gems going to be late game. The skill choice is kinda limited but the legs so far were interesting enough and i only had 7 drops
i just played it again diablo 4 hits good imo people just hating to hate prolly
You have to remember the people who hated early wow were likely the Ultima Online crowd.
A game where it took 4-6 real world hours to walk your character across sections of the map.
There was no fast travel I think.
so 5 youtubers post their concerns with a early access to a early beta and it’s a 4/10? 😂 dumb click bait title, game is fun and fine
You were reading my posts. Also warcraft was a rts and all other warcrafts were as well.
ive never played an arpg before and was very excited for D4, but now that I see its gameplay i can only feel like its not what everyone was hyping it up to be. it just looks like a very simple game to be able to hook me for more than a weekend.
Lemme know when the new channel starts up for Diablo 4. I trust your builds guides etc.
After 2 25s last weekend I can’t be arsed to do it over again, tbh I just find the game a little boring and to think I’ve waited years for this game
have yet to hear one single bad word about the game from anyone that has a real job lol
Main thing I’m concerned about is predatory, pay-to-win micro transactions mechanics that could be injected into the game later down the lifeline of Diablo 4.
cope
clickbait pig
I don’t know what you been reading or who you been watching but most of the people I’ve talked to and watched seemed to love it but whatever
I’ve been loving D4. I love the open world, being to explore freely. Reminds me of playing Sacred 2 back on the PS3. Game looks amazing, story so far is dope like I was actually interested in seeing how everything plays out. Lilith is a great villain so far.
I enjoy the skill trees and seems like a great middle ground between D2 and D3. Second to second combat is so much. My biggest issues are yes the level scaling, which i understand is kinda needed due to the open ended nature of exploration but I think they need to find a middle ground. I also don’t see any reason why we can’t create a offline only single player character.
I know there’s world bosses and such but I feel like they could just make some generic npcs based on different standard builds of the classes. So far the gear is pretty basic but it’s also only level 25. I’m excited and I’m loving it. I mean the first region is bigger than the entirety of D3s campaign pretty much.
Simplicity and accessibility and targeting masses is the safer play
D4 is eerily similar to D3 in a lot of bad ways. I don’t see casuals into D3 much more than 1-2 days every other new season. That’s a big yikes.
its sadly not really possible to recreate the back in 2004 what wow was to MMO genre, theres just for starters to much information available now to pull that off, and secondly there is no company or game dev that would risk litterally hundreds of millions for a complete inovation of the genre that might not stick, thats a lot of money to loose after all, and the same reason why one normally does not see any mmo to go of the established mmo route. as for D4 well honestly it looks just like D3 update which is nothing wrong in particular, but its nothing ground breaking either
One thing I’ve learned about a game community is that the negative community is always the loudest. You don’t see much praise in most game communities but you will always see the negativity.
Plus people giving a negative review on a beta is pretty dumb. I think it has more to do with with people’s current opinion of Blizzard more than the game itself at this point. The game is pretty damn fun. I had no issues that people were complaining about like power scaling or such. It felt good to me. But I only played Sorceress so maybe the other classes had issues.
Still it was a fun beta for me, I can’t wait for the Game launch in a few months. I want to experience the rest of what it has to offer especially the story. It kept me going the whole time.
Power scaling is just awful design. Kills immersion and the sense of progression.
The D4-WoW analogy is extremely weak. This game won’t last and is just the same shit all over again so blizz can cash-in. There’s no big reveal coming.
Yeah no I’m loving it
Rule of thumb: Characters MUST fell stronger for every level gained and equipment earned or the game will fail
I have 1,300 hours on PoE and consider myself a noob, but I’ve enjoyed my time there. I’ve played more than that of D3 and WoW (separately) with my best friends, kids, and nephews in which we enjoyed (and still enjoy) our time. D4 has been fun for us to play together, which I know makes the “power” of each character feel different since we aren’t soloing the main quest, side quests, and world events. However, it feels really good and is fun even though we all agree there are some issues with the game. We also all agree that we need to see how the rest of the game feels, especially the end game and the replay loop. Overall, we are enjoying our time and hope that it only gets better. Thanks Force!
It’s pretty hard to believe Llamasc can actually make a video like that with a straight face and give this a 5/10. Maybe that guy needs a new game already, every single point just boils down to ‘well they do it like this in D2’.
Why everyone already give score to diablo4?? The full game is not even out yet!!
I haven’t played the game myself and cannot say anything about the character progression, balance or the repeatability of the dungeons. My biggest concern is with what I perceive in all these videos and it is that the game feels like Candy crush and Fruit ninja combined. Extremely poor aesthetics with completely random magic effects. I dislike that the audience is clearly a school kid or an auntie who is playing on their phones while commuting. I hate that approach to visual stimulation. I was carefully watching gameplay videos to figure out what is happening on screen and what is the logic behind certain magic effects but couldn’t find any.
“add polish, refine gameplay” by making a worse version than something like last epoch, in almost every way?
Last Epoch does everything that has to do with gameplay, WAY better. 1. more visual stunning and impactful sfx on abilities? check, 2. Has the same 5 classes, but better in every way? check, 3. Has better skill trees in every sense of the word? check, 4. Has more fleshed out, original end game content, bosses, mechanics, and gear diversity/itemization? check. The only thing d4 has going for it is the IP; and the music. That’s about it i think.
I haven’t even gotten to lvl 10 yet, and I’m already bored out my mind. I’ve tried drood, rogue and necromancer, and all of them feel and play; like watered down, less visually appealing versions of what LE has.
Everything I have seen looks overwhelmingly positive.
Because it’ll never be as good as D2. And the comparison to D2’s rune system is laughable. Nothing will ever beat D2’s rune system.
Been playing beta for 3 hours straight but my pointing finger is so tired. Is there a auto move button?
Sub’d to new channel and looking forward to guides as a very casual player in my older days
the MMO aspect would be fine with me IF there were still a completely solo offline mode. making me wait in Queue for an ARPG is absolute deal breaker. bye bye bliz.
Seriously? i think D4 is better than John Wick 4.
I don’t hate Diablo. I hate Blizzard.
Nah most people seem to be enjoying it. Not true
I felt bored playing pretty quick.
I remember legendary weapons in early WoW were true items of legend. Hand of Rag and Warglaive of Azzinoth. As a casual you walk past someone with one of these and you would ask your friends. When people talked you listened. There was a bit of mystery too if you weren’t a raider you didn’t know where or how they got these weapons. Like an actual “legend” you didn’t know what was true and what was myth. Even epic mounts in vanilla WoW were actually epic. You saw people ride past in an epic mount and you were in awe. In Diablo 4 these “legendary” items are random trash that no one cares to remember their names, where they dropped, and someone having a legendary item is mundane and boring. It might as well be a piece of starter gear. Later on in WoW I started hearing the term “welfare epics” because they were so common and easy to get.
It’s funny how Force is now agreeing with all the concerns from others but never mentioned it before. So, what’s the business model? Hype all new games and if there are problems they don’t matter or just playing dumb? I can already see the next video title: “The biggest problems with D4”. I mean, you can’t miss that opportunity to make money.
Where are you getting “everyone” from??
Forget what mrllamma is talking about I feel like they’re being too anal I personally love Diablo 4 so much to the point I went to learn things for myself instead of automatically YouTube content it’s been an experience and I can’t wait for the final product
Played it all day today and it’s pretty disappointing. The barb and melee druid experience feels like garbage. Idc if they get good in the endgame.
“everyone” = PoE, ARPG Hardcore players who expected Diablo 4 to be just a basic Diablo dungeon game but I guess didn’t hear the 2019 press talking about Diablo 4 being an MMO ish game. Too many people ( Hardcore ARPG fans ) expected Diablo to be somewhat similar to PoE, a 10+ year old game with improvements and community feedback those whole years.
D4 will be a really great game probably in season 2-3 but for now the game is just good/solid. I am having a ton of fun on the game but I also can agree the skills and vastness D4 brings comparing it to PoE, not that much and with seasons I feel things will be better.
I am an idiot and addicted to arpgs , so even though d4 atleast do far doesn’t look worth 70 dollars to me, after launch day I will definitely get it mostly on the 3rd or 4th day,
Its not like I would have any new big game to play at that time
Jesus how old are you 😮
As one that mainly gamed in the 80s and 90s I am excited for D4. I am not one to finely critic the as many of the top creators. In the end, am I having fun during these two beta weekend? Yes! Very much so. In the end, it is up to the individual to rate the game. These days I don’t have a lot of free time to play games and I will not be playing this game for many years as these creators. I will probably play through with a couple characters and that will be it. I been loving my time with D4 so far
Not to mention the arthritis from no wasd.
Force man, theres going to be 500 channels covering every single possible meta of d4, dont worry about it. that shit ruins your own fun of the game.
there are a lot of us out here that are having fun with the game. And honestly I am tired of those of us that are just having fun are seen at dumb or that we don’t matter. If you don’t like it don’t play simple. Those of us that are enjoying it will stick around. That said. THIS IS A BETA TEST. Blizzard has said as much. and you are only playing to level 25. How about we wait till the game is RELEASED! The majority are having fun. Influencers are going to tear shit apart for VIEWS. Creating drama is what they need to do to get paid. How about we wait till the game is actually released and if the glaring issues you have issue with are still there then move on. Those of us that enjoy it will stick around.
its nothing new, in fact multiplayer works worse now then a decade ago, how they make it worse is baffling
I feel like Diablo 3’s font was better but not to a degree that I would not play D4 ofc. That being said, I have absolutely quit or not tried a game because of the font used xD (Usually mods for that though)
I like the art direction and enjoy the simple template.
Asmon gave it an 8.5 but ya totally hates it
Kinda disagree with OW is a streamlined, dumb-downed version of TF2… For me it’s more of a refinement that Blizzard again fcked up with their balancing but that’s a different topic…
I’m a very casual player. Played last weekend, and this weekend. I like it. It isn’t overwhelming like PoE. It is challenging, but not so much that I got frustrated and quit. The end game content will really determine replayability. I guess we’ll see.
🤔🤔🤔 When will YT content creator will make their sh!t games 😂😂😂😂
Overall, playing an ARPG is about as niche as playing a turn based jrpg these days, which means we’re not the mass appeal anymore, and we need niche content. So D4 has that horror content back now, and if they push that envelope, the game will be just fine. Blizzard’s success was always about selling the concept, the story, the mood. I played this beta, and I liked their presentation of the mood. Edgy blizzard is the best blizzard, and if they have the guts to cross some lines, I’m in.
gaming back then is different. people expect less and enjoy new things. people now expect more and easily disappointed
WoW was great, EQ was better. WoW ended up more popular because it was easy mode.
Click baited again. Damnit Force >:(
PoE2 will probably be better.
no, not everyone. I loved it!
I’m surprised no one complained about the actual skills in the game. They split the abilities into different types like “core” skills and every tier it’s fucking obvious which skill is good and which is bad. The balance is dog shit and I’ve seen 20 year old games have more skills per class than in Diablo 4. The resource system is also dog shit, they want us to weave in auto attacks to use big hitters but every good build will literally be to break that restriction (hydras, corpse explosion both don’t have that problem for example) already bored of my characters by lvl 20 didn’t enjoy any class.
I’ll be honest, Force: nearly every content creator you mentioned are those who are choking on the girth of Path of Exile and expected Diablo 4 to reinvent the wheel or some shit. Those same creators are conveniently ignoring the fact that 95% of the game isn’t even available. We don’t even have access to the Paragon system, which is supposed to be the major way of tailoring builds. Content creators only exist to release videos of what their fan base wants to hear. Their viewers are saying the game is bad, and so content creators are going to release content following along those lines.
diablo 4 is doing what is safe. the people that have been looking for it will love it.
I guess if someone plans to play D4 once or twice, the game is good enough. In the moment you have to farm dungeons, or do activities in the open world, the games becomes less fun.
I had access to the private beta last year. At the end, I came back to PoE and D3, as they were fundamentally more fun to play when you arrive to farming.
Clickbait title, everyone liked Diablo 4 except for some caveats.
On POE after first month of league numbers drop, maybe even before.
Nah D4 is going to be a solid 7/10. Last Epoch is going to be king though
Can’t trust you after Wild Hearts.
If I wanted to play path of exile I could play PoE and the upcoming PoE 2. I don’t like it so I play diablo and grim dawn. If diablo tried to be a copy of PoE, I would go play something else.
id be half ok with online only if it didn’t have a bunch of other random fuckers running around my game ….diablo was never a fucking mmo and it shouldn’t be treated like one
I just don’t understand why companies take something that could be a good game and shoehorn in a bunch of useless shit that should be optional
I never thought I would refund a Blizzard game in my life…
Gamers are the absolute worst. You can hand them gold on a platter and they would still complain.
I havn’t enjoyed it at all.
It’s not fun and I’ve played 1,2,3 nearly religiously and honestly – it’s the same but worse.
The art/feel is awesome, but the rest is just…. meh.
Actually refunded today and uninstalled and I’ll wait a week to see end-game before I purchase this game again.
Not stressed at all missing out of the start.
whatever, this games awsome
Personally as much as it hurts to say… the beta caused me to say “what the hell, I’ll give Last Epoch $30 and see how it is”. I know I’ll get tons of hate and all that but dammed if I’m not having 100x more fun in lost epoch (so far, just played 2.5hrs). To me (again, personally speaking on replayability) I couldn’t even convince myself to play the beta again this weekend. That’s all just me and it is what it is but I see where devs are taking in what we are complaining about but twisted it in stupid ways. For instance the complaints about going from one end to another end of a dungeon just to unlock a door to the boss is boring, they thought we were saying “hey after we fight our way through to the item we need, we’d like to fight our way back so the dungeon doesn’t feel empty”. The game just wasn’t fun to me and lord knows I wanted to love this game, I needed this game. Thank God some of the reviews talked about Last Epoch and I dove into watching videos about it. As of right now, that is my Diablo replacement.
It just shows out of touch the no lifers are when it comes to the everyday player. D4 will kill it and while they have a lot of good points it wont matter in the end.
Everyone hates it However will play for years to come!!!
The actual play through has been incredibly fun. Obviously we have absolutely no clue what end game will be like, but I’ve enjoyed all of my time in game.
What I find absolutely inexcusable? Login queue times that are multiple hours. When you couple this with server crashes (which I CAN tolerate in a beta… it won’t be perfect 🙂), this leads to an astronomical amount of time waiting.
For many game studios, I’d understand. But… This is Activision Blizzard. Blizzard has some of (if not THE) biggest multiplayer games in history. And it’s not the first beta this has happened with. It’s not even the first time with THIS game. They absolutely have the resources (economic, technology, and historical evidence) to better anticipate and load test their services.
This will still be the case at game launch, and that really bothers me. But otherwise, it’s been an awesome time in game when I’m not in a queue!
played beta today without much of an issue at all i think i had to wait in que maybe twice all day
1. first thing i noticed was the character customization…. it wasnt in depth as some games but overall i thought it was really kick ass to implement
2. the cutscenes where absolutely INCREDIBLE and as stupid as it sounds some of the best of any game ive ever played the voice acting was absolutely on point as well and very well done
3. all of the main characters in the game along with the npcs and demons i thought where very well constructed
4. played a rogue (ill admit i went flurry with poison traps kind of a boring class to play but meh it wasnt horrible it was lets say tolerable)
5. really enjoyed gaming with the homies like the old days and just learning a brand new game
6. noticed that the world was pretty gigantic and that random people can join in on events out of nowhere making you feel that the world and the enviornment was more… in depth if you will and more “liveable” if that makes sense whereas d2 was just ya heres a dungeon go in and fc k everyone else your alone (probably my 2nd most fave thing about the game)
7. bosses actually looked intimidating and some where very challenging
8. the class specific quests where dope as fck and the bonuses/benefits you get from doing so are pretty nice
9. the crafting in this game is endless and another really amazing concept
10 no more running out of tps because they are endless!!! absolutely love this!
11. no more running out of arrows if your a bow or xbow user
12. one of the downfalls is the camera.. im sorry but ive never been a fan of eagle eye view games and id really like for blizz/microsoft to make a 1st or 3rd person (but i know this is never going to happen) but after the first mmm 2 ish hours i barely noticed it anymore really
13. yes i know some people had a hell of a time getting in which i totaly understand the frustation but i personally didnt think it was all that bad as it allowed to do house work and get caught up on personal shit while waiting and share a few laughs with the homies on console while waiting.
14. in some ways i do think its more like d3 but honestly…. in a good way if you think about it why would you move backwards in time when the technology is there to make more of an advanced game (although d2 will still always be one of my fave games) part of me hates that its more like d3 but part of me was really really easy to look past it
all in all………… im def buying it and honestly cant wait for the release in june!
Why they had to put damage numbers ingame ? ( it look like a poor korean ARPG …)
PoE wasn’t fun diablo 4 is fun.
I hope diablo 4 continues to be fun.
D4 is a 9 out 10 core with a 5 out 10 package. I think most critics are warranted after explained. It is still not a deal breaker compared to D3. I’m more worried about the home work systems they may have with battlepass.
The dungeons sound great. The dungeons in D3 didn’t feel handcrafted, even though they were, because they were so generic and boring. I’ve seen better more interesting layouts from randomly procedural stuff like warframe.
As for the power scaling, thats kinda how WoW works. you’re stronger stat wise when lower level because you have fewer abilities, as you get higher level you actually feel a bit weaker. you do a dungeon with someone 20 levels lower than you and they out damage you because they’re doing the same amount of attacks, they just have a damage buff because they’re weaker ability selection wise.
Lol what a loser of a dude to make a title like that
do YouTubers ever get tired of lying in their thumbnails?
The mobile zoomed in view makes the game look cheap. Honestly D2R looks better, and feels more unique. D4 seems like a more generic than D3, seems like they’re happy to “polish” the game till the granite block is a pebble. Mass marketing games leads to the triple A curse, over polished and generic, good for a few months but wont have a long lasting player base like previous diablo games. Would be interesting to see a slower, more deliberate combat system like the original Diablo. Interested to see how Blizzard will react to the criticisms.
Solid content my guy
diablo 2 lod cant be beat
I’ve literally heard nothing but good things besides the repetitive early game dungeons 😂😂 I think some people just have brain damage
It just feels SO much like a mobile game ICANT continue Playing the free beta when Last Epoch is popping so hard. Glad I got to try so I don’t have to buy. It sucks… I wanted to want to buy Diablo 4
I love how people are giving a complete review of a game based off a network test.. this isn’t the full game .. idk I enjoyed it a lot and definitely going to buy the game
I’m liking it way more than I thought I would, Played early access and will be playing open beta.
while there are good stuff in d4, but so far i dont like the music, dialog and voice acting is awful, animations are on every corner and annoying, open world just doesnt feel right….
Have my dislike for ze click bait sir thx
How does this have 5k up votes? You steeple are ez
D4 is good…….. D3 sucked balls and was imbarressment to the franchise
I think that one of the big problems with AAA companies, they keep trying to pull people into the game. Just make it true to itself and people will be interested, we live in a different time where people are more prone to play games and check out new titles. But when you start mixing in elements from other shit you usually get a mess…That being said, I havent played the game and I was just making an observation. I will probably wait to pick this up till its on sale. not trying to spend 70$ on a game.
Its not 2 loot options we didn’t get to mess around with. Its actually 3 since Uniques aren’t fully implemented into the level 25 experiences. Uniques / Sacred / Ancestral these are the tiers of loot we are missing.
I’m more worried about the MMOish type stuff than any of this. You nailed exactly what I was thinking. If the hardcore players are in love with it then it’s probably too complex for most people. Most people don’t care or have time to spend learning a giant complicated system. We just want the game to be good. Not too simple, not too complex. Though I do think many of the gripes so far could be the difference between a fantastic game and a so-so or just good game. I don’t have a ton of faith in Blizzard since they released Overwatch 2 as a whole new game and all the scandals they have had. But at the same time Blizzard has been one of the most on-point developers in the entire gaming industry. Until a few recent releases like OW2, Diablo Immortal and Warcraft III remastered they could do no wrong. I own every Blizzard game except those in fact. I loved D3 after they fixed it, StarCraft is one of my all time favorite IP’s. I logged almost a year and a half of PLAY TIME on WoW between Vanilla and WotLK. I have logged at least 1,000 hours on HotS and probably at least that on the original Overwatch. D2 remaster is good as well. Not many other game devs have kept their integrity and reputation for excellence for such a long period of time like that. BioWare, Bethesda and Naughty Dog all threw some pretty big strikes IMO with lackluster releases after being super solid devs for years before.
The question is will this be Fallout 76 or the GTA5 of Diablo? I guess we’ll find out soon enough!
ppl expect a Diablo game int he diablo franchise which was made by Blizzard – the same company that made ALL those other games to be more Diablo because it is BELOVED – u want to win casuals? EASY -> Graphics and particle effects: Show your character looking badass doing badass things and looking graphically amazing and DONE, the casual audience will take note – right now, there’s at least 10’s of millions of ppl that have played Diablo 3 so you CAN go DEEPER than that – its the 4th entry into the franchise – you’re not making a new IP and its F’ing Blizzard – just their NAME on a product has expectations these days – there is no one even in the casual audience that hasnt heard of Blizzard – they’re mass appeal doesnt require them to dumb down a game, just make it more accessible…and that doesnt mean easy to get into and no depth, their moto used to be easy to get into, hard to master – they have ALWAYS had games that were like that…except Diablo 3 and now Immortal…so why the Hell is Diablo shafted when literally ALL their other IP’s have incredible depth – the paragon is just a passive skill tree, its not going to give you new animations or new spells – that’s what your active skill tree is for and its ALL visible…the items have affixes that are VERY lack luster, which affixes are u expecting at high levels to be there that will salvage the game? i can tell u that already – open ur character panel and read the stats your character has…every one of them is %dmg or %def or %movement…i mean what magic affixes are going to give you new stats that arent just dps/health/cc/speed?
D4 looks and fells really nice for me and all my friends until now!
I do hope they can make it even better until the release, but the way it is right now, it already is enough for me to buy and play lots of hours of it
Feels like a mobile game. I hate the texts they use for the monsters
WoW being popular does not mean it is good.
i told you. i said it before it even released it was gonna be 4/10. i was right
It has couch co-op which is the biggest selling point for me. A lot of arpgs I look at don’t have couch co-op , hell most games don’t. I pick up games for couch co-op because it gives options to play with my gf or friends who come over.
Complaints and compliments aside; I can’t wait to try it out.
I do hope, even down the road, that they add more uniques for higher levels. It sounds like they get “boring” 1/3 of the way through leveling.
Hell, HOPEFULLY, they add runewords!
Ah clickbait.
Of course you are friends with clickbaitgold.
10:30 they tried to supersede Dota and made blizzard all stars a dumbed down entry into the moba genre and it died because it sucked
This game is amazing so far so idk wth people are talking about.
This title is BS I love this game
So from anyone whos played whats the consensus? I never got to enjoy diablo 3 and really want to play if its anywhere close to Lost Ark.
finding legendary items was one of the best feelings ever in Diablo games. They cant screw that up. There needs to be a real sense of reward for finding them or else the game will grow boring, Diablo at its core is a looter ARPG game where discovering a badass weapon in the deepest darkest dungeon is what makes Diablo the game that it is. When you start using that weapon it makes you feel like a god after you start using it.
I’m glad that dungeons replaced rifts (if that is the case)… If I never play another rift or map from PoE it’ll too soon. Even if they don’t make them more complex, which they certainly could, I would be happy. At least these dungeons have some structure and mechanics beyond “kill everything willy fast and smash boss” rinse and repeat forever…
If you want to play Diablo 4 just play Lost Ark, its free, same game. They blatantly copied everything and the game has about the same difficulty aswell aka none.
I uninstalled after two hours of playing the beta today.. not impressed and won’t pay 70 euro for this.
Hardcore players typically expect a certain amalgamation of processes to come together to form the game they want to play. That’s fine, and there was a time i used to think like that, but honestly, i just want a fun product i can get 500 to 1000 hrs out of. It doesn’t need to keep me hooked for the next 10 years.
No one hates D4, everyone just likes to ride the band wagon, the game is quite simply great. Its scratching every itch. Haters gonna hate. The game is fun. Period.
I like it a lot. I’ll be playing it for the next 10 years a long with the rest of you shills.
These complaints are minor. The game feels cool and I think 80% of players will love what is available
Also, fudge asmongold- that dude socks
I’m not interested in a game that is more expensive than average, also has micro cosmetics and a paid battle pass where I’m not…asked to think. I appreciate some people don’t want to think when they play a game…but I want to be challenged…at least to literally read as opposed to just see “green number better than red number, unga bunga”
One big gripe…the skill tree fucking sucks and has zero depth too it
D2 purists complaining about repetitive dungeon structure is hilarious. Dude you’ve been farming Baal and Andariel for 20 years, sit down.
This is also the open Beta >.< It isn't even the End game. So why are we making review video's and dissing the game already? End game player lvl will be 90+ so I feel it's a bit too early to be judging the game for what it is worth. Everyone's entitled to their wrong opinions, and I never really saw Krip as a person of actual value considering he spent a lot of his career exploiting and breaking games and claiming to be an amazing gamer. lol
Blizzard is and always has been utterly terrible at innovation.
What they do best is iteration.
They can take great ideas from other games and then combine them and make them more accessible.
That’s just how they work and whenever they try to make things really original it has never really turned out since D2.
Who is “everyone”? All my friends love it, everyone on reddit is pretty positive. Who are these “people”?
Opinions are like ass holes …. Everyone has one.
I can get over every aspect of the game. The problem is trying to make Diablo look like other games. D3 was generally hated by true Diablo fans and still trash it to this day. They will sell outrageous numbers at first and good for them. But most of the “new players” will have moved on from this game within 6 months onto something else. They should’ve focused more on the long term goal to keep the game alive by focusing on their current player bases wants since they’re the ones keeping it around to begin with.
Everyone loves it
Diablo 4 destoryed the barbarian and druid… this is an insult while barbarian on diablo 2 was easy same with druid on diablo 2… now the cut or nerf them hard and it’s bs….. I hate the game because they nerfed barbarian and druid… they both suck… rogue is the best and so is sorcceror/sorcceress…. those are the only fun classes of all time for diablo 4 the rest is not worth it… I mean necro is still bugged a bit now… and I hope blizzard fix the summon skeleton when you go to your book of affect.
clearly forgot Quin69
tis the reason why I stopped playing POE a couple years ago…way way way too much complexity, I am an avid gamer but even I found it was catering way to much to the hard cores.
Ridge Wallets are for Millennials and Zoomers that like to wear skinny jeans. Blizzard is going to go Bankrupt and everybody is selling Ridge Wallets. lol
World of Warcraft was the worst thing to ever happen to Blizzard. It was a terrible game at launch and still is. It ruined Blizzard’s trajectory by becoming popular amongst the whiniest, softest, weirdo gamers ever. Then Blizzard was like this game is so successful lets apply this to all of our other games even if that’s not the spirit of those games. Caused the Diablo 3 delay. Got Starcraft Ghost and several other projects cancelled. Got Activision interested in purchasing them and screwing the whole company up. D4 is good so far but I still hate the always online crap. The PVP and the End game systems better not suck. Not gonna waste my money on the $90 version. And if you preorder any game you’re a fool. Just play those piles of games you have in your Steam account that have gone untouched.
I just had a chance to play. I haven’t played all of the classes. But it isn’t balanced. I watched many play Barb and the Rogue. These classes are not even close in DPS.
Necro meanwhile I just walk around and the game plays itself. It is silly.
This game hits the target audience.
Non gamers..
its so bloody easy…
Gween numbers good
Yep don’t care what the no lifers say, i play for fun.
bro, the lack of variations of skills will kill this game. there’s 2 variations per skills, 90% of them are either vulnerable or dazed or something bad like that, best 20% more dmg blabla. its bad. really bad.
Only problem i have is the dumbass mmo shit
Click bait
Bait
The only thing I hate is getting dropped from the game and kicked back to the que fix that and we are good and that is probably a beta only issue…
For me, the movement and jankiness of it makes the game unappealing, should be able to separate the attack and movevement commands
It’s a damn good game, don’t let these POE fan boys talk you into some B.S. O it’s not good because you don’t need to spend hours looking up a build yet the actual game play is a 2 button smash, Diablo plays better you actually need a rotation and gamer skills to play Diablo. This game Is amazing, the graphics are 2ed to none just because your not all powerful at level 25 is meaningless this game will rule like it always has 👊
The combat system is dogshit and the animation is dogshit as well, ‘it is ok to have diablo II but not the combat system on diablo II please why do not use a combo system like Lost Ark something that you can feel you are controlling not buy a new mouse because of the clicking clicking cliking.
i left a like and a subscribe for justice for Liam, it’s 2 years!
I played up to lvl 20 so far as necromancer today. I’m very excited with the direction this is going. I grew up on Diablo2 back in the heyday when blizzard could do no wrong. I honestly wasn’t all that interested in D3. They have firmly brought me back into the fold from what ive played so far. The Atmosphere/Characters/Systems have left a good impression on me. None of the big complaints are things that can’t be fixed imo. Yeah, dungeons are a bit dull, that’s something easy enough to fix. Anyway, really looking forward to it.
I think the game looks great, and I will definitely play it, just not at launch, at best half year down the road, or a year later when more content releases
Servers have been a shit show today
Diablo 4 is not going to show it’s true color before season start. We need to know more when it comes to p2w or not. Remember D immortal was also not suppose to be p2w or able to buy gear.
I think most people expected a reskinned D3, whereas we are getting D4 which is leaning into its own thing. I quite enjoy it, will have to see what endgame is like but nothing can be worse than spamming Grifts
I don’t
easy fix for dungeon repetition would be introducing an affix rotation similar to the weekly and seasonal affixes in M+ in WoW. Sure – “stealing” an idea, but it does make M+ very fun and would be fun in these procedurally instanced dungeons imo
At this point, activision blizzard doesn’t deserve to be defended. BUT – how much do we really need to care about fucking fonts?
nah this is the diablo the ogs like myself will love.
Lost Ark with Diablo graphics.
If youre a d3 fan, you’ll love it, if ur a d2 fan, you’ll hate it. Ima stick with my d2r
First time diablo player, having a lot of fun!! but i hope they do work on power progression and those Lags!!
One thing people never seem to realise is that no matter what complains they have, Llama/Asmon/Whoever they are gonna still pay to play it because it’s the content their viewers want to see. So in the end, Blizzard wins. Like how all the streamers tried to “prove a point” with Diablo Immortal by spending money on it to show the public how much of a scam it was. They still spent money on it….Blizzard won.
I’m buying it… /shrug guess I’m easy to please. I just played beta for 4 hours on a founders 3080Ti on highest settings possible @4k, with no issue. (I did use nvidia control panel to set fps to 144 max to match my monitor) Look, no game is perfect, specially in beta. Gamers love to cry about literally everything. it’s actually kind of pathetic how many haters there are out there. They hate everything, cry and moan about every game on the market. I just quit listening to the haters. I buy or beta test if I can, if I like it, couldn’t care less about their bitching. I buy and have fun knowing that no game is perfect. Just play the damn game and stop the hating already.
I deal with people everyday and they never get satisfied even when their problems are solved. Human nature, Americans are spoiled asf.
i play 15mins feels too much like d3 …. i went back to d2r
This guy probably just because of the network problems
although you are not wrong with reserving your final verdict for d4, i have been seeing a lot of AIchatbots in all d4 ”reviews””first impressions” etc videos on YT. and they are all positive, ”gonna buy this”, ”played the beta” etc.
although i think its an ”okay” game for this day and age, i certainly do not think its a game for a segment of gamers who want a more technical and depth game design.
it is certainly also not worth its price tag.
Thank cain, someone is being honest about D4! Too many people are saying it’s a beta or are okay with D3 copy. Don’t give blizzard excuses for not producing a challenging game with good content. This game was made for simple minds. There is no creativeness with builds you’re building what they decided. Why don’t we have a simple overlay map? Oh it was made for console.
I enjoyed a lot the 144 minutes i’ve spent in queue, and the 15 minutes in game before error and disconnection were very nice.
10/10 👍
I would take those amazingly crafted and beautiful dungeons in Lost Ark over some overly produced procedurely generated slog. I hope some of the dungeons tied to the story are well crafted.
Yeah, honestly I’m not impressed with D4 so far. I mean, it looks good… But feels like Diablo immortal.
which skill or gear is shotting the light blade from the rogue?
This damn clickbait thumbnail 😂
was hardcore EQ player and played wow closed beta thru cata in raiding guilds… it was magic to log into wow beta and it blew EQ away. the critique was enthusiastic because the game was so good feeling people wanted it to be perfect. there are many high quality diablo style games and i doubt very much it is even possible to achieve the same level of evolution in this genre from any studio. 70$-100$ for this game doesn’t seem worth the money.
I’m loving it
I love it can’t wait for release 4 days early baby
I can’t stand the way they use potions in d4
Gameplay looks slow and dull, combat looks like we went backwards in tech about 10 years. 4/10 all day.
the dungeons are like the one thing Diablo is known for. and they are so forgettable in d4
As it typically goes, people who are talking trash online were just playing a few minutes ago and got real frustrated, people not talking are playing and enjoying at this very moment.
it is pretty mid not gonna lie.
The critiques I’ve seen a lot that were also mentioned are the ones concerning dungeon variety and Itemization. It’s an aRPG, kill stuff grab loot, rinse and repeat.. and repeat.. and repeat. Even if D4 were to deliver on all fronts and become 200% the game any fan of the genre could want, after hundreds of hours players would put into it ALL of it would still be repetitive. Just let the game be fun, which for me has been during the beta so far. Soon after release regardless of how simple or complex or diverse builds may be, there will be a meta setup to run for every class, every skill variation for the class, or the “most optimal” way to play, making any complexity of the game basically pointless. Let’s just pray the end game is fun and not rifting for paragons for eternity or running meph and baal or w/e MF spot 100 times an hour.
You can’t satisfy everyone. For me, I cannot wait to sink many, many hours in to D4.
Haha a beta which the drops are not going to be the same as the real game. And half the classes don’t have there class quest
I tried to get into open beta twice today (I played closed beta as well). First time early in the day was a 30 minute wait and then it errored out and dropped me when Q was done and it was logging me in. Tried to get back in and there was another 30 minute Q. I just tried again a few minutes ago, waited in a 45 minute Q, got logged in and tabbed out to start my OBS to stream it and the whole game crashed…. What a complete cluster F. I probably wont try to get in beta again……
Hi Force! Nice seeing you on my feed again! Good Analysis, I agree with all the points you made! I also would like to add that this balance of targeting to new and seasoned players is necessary to CREATE new hardcore players.
The game should have replayability and depth, but also must be approachable to noobies. Otherwise it becomes a game that’s not fun to climb and learn.
Diablo 4, devs havent learned nothing from pass. Just make game for casual console players with very limited content. 4/10 current beta for sure.
playing the beta as we speak and i absolutely love it d2 style with d3 feels. Absolutely amazing minus the little bugs etc. graphics on the series x on my oled tv are fucking phenomenal. No frame rate issues so far just all around good dungeon fun
Dude, wtf are you saying
I can honestly say i love this game so far other than some smaller UI issues & options but other than that i am beyond impressed! 😎👍🏼
I never felt weaker as I leveled up… i just felt like the challenge increased. I personally had a blast last weekend on rogue and barbarian. I’m hoping to get some play time this weekend if i can work it around my sucky long work schedule…
I think it is extremely fun for an arpg and my enjoyment of the first game is likely going to last 2-3x the available content, but I’ll likely return as new things are released.
I have only heard positive things about D4. Granted I don’t look far into it but headlines usually read “D4 is great” more or less
This is bullshit, everyone I know including myself loves it
Nop I love it
I played for a few hours today. It’s not bad. Definitely looks better than D3 and at least there is more interaction with the NPC’s. I don’t know that I’ll be buying it though.
Long time player since Warcraft 1 & Diablo 1 – One word summary: Lackluster or meh.
I haven’t seen anyone hating on the game except PoE diehards and they can’t really be taken seriously because they were going to hate D4 since it isn’t PoE2 regardless of how good or bad it is. Everyone I have seen is giving some critique on some things that probably do need improvement, like dungeons, but are all largely enjoying themselves despite the flaws. Clearly not watching the same people.
here’s the giant elephant in the room. blizzard, at the end of the day, is a publicly traded company that has lost all of the major pieces of talent that were part of the original teams that created diablo and world of warcraft. they are ultimately beholden to their shareholders and unfortunately that means the monetization takes front and center. compare that to a private company like grinding gear games that can really do just about whatever they want with their game because they aren’t appealing to this mass audience you end up with a product that’s vastly different than anything blizzard will produce. in fact i think we already know what d4 is going to be – it’s going to be an extension of d3 because it already is.
Game is great those that bitch and moan forget that this is just the beta of 1 section. We live in a time of entitled spoiled brats. I for one really enjoying the game and cant wait to get the full release. The main thing I don’t like is the skill tree its not clear and clumsy to bind a skill.
I got to play d4 today I got to try all 5 class the game is great simple fun and more options my only concern was the lighting being too dark I fixed it with brightness when the full game is available my only concern is how the game will work for clan system 🤔
It feels good just hope they get these servers under control. It needs to be. Click on game load in game play game. Not click on game, wait 2+hours (in my case 26 ish+) hours. So if they get this under control sweet and if I can stay in the game when I get in would be nice. It’s simple this game is what it is simple quick and efficient you want deep play poe, it’s like playing cod or wanting to play tarkov, you want realistic play realistic you want fun a game and maybe repetition play that stop over analyzing the game and have fun this is a game and use it as such.
I’m new to Diablo, has the rogue class always been a combination of assassin and archer? Feel like they should be 2 separate classes
Really love hearing your thoughts on this. A great view on why we got here with the game. Personally can’t wait for D4, been having so much fun.
ironic. Beta males complaining about beta.
Gameplay don’t matter if the game is heavy pay to win 😅
I’m not hyped, I dunno why. Mmorpg means you have to put in all of your time to be successful.
It’s probably way too grindy and repetitive with many daily chores that are not fun.
I personally like path of exile. Where your end goal is to kill some very hard, unique super bosses.
Also you never feel like you’re being behind or whatever. There are no daily chores you have to do.
In path of exile there are no chores at all.
That’s the first time I’ve heard someone say “Sc2 a dumbed down version of C&C.”Maybe AoE but C&C…
No one I know that’s playing it hates it. There are obviously things people would want to see, me for instance I’d like more colors in transmog and having a transparent map you can make bigger. But those aren’t game breaking
yeah, the thing that kept from us is probably the day 1 patch that turn this game into diablo immortal 2… dont forget that diablo immortal used to be a decent game in beta… and now it’s a casino for whale…
Every review I have seen is positive
It’s a good game, never trust what someone on Youtube says with a beard
Facts finally someone says something right. This game sucks and people swallow it like suttin new
Diablo 3 was strike 1
Diablo Immortal was strike 2
not looking good for Diablo franchise if D4 is just…generic
Diablo 2 elitist are pissed that its not a clone of diablo 2 with better graphics. Diablo 3 elitist are pissed because its not a clone of diablo 3 with more cartoony graphics. PoE elitist mad that its not a PoE clone but actually glad its not so they can pound chest and say PoE is better.
Look play it or not but dont go off of what elitist have to say. Formulate your own decision and if you like it play it. If you dont, then dont. Why people feel its necessary to force people to see it the same way as them never cease to blow my mind how petty people are.
It does have its issues that need addressed. Necro is so op that it’s not even fun to play, lol. The game itself is too easy. But hey thats my opinions and it doesn’t matter if people believe me or not, i dont need them too. I will still play the game because i want to.
the game is just…generic…even by today’s standards. Thats not gonna win any diehards and not be memorable even to casuals – it’ll just be a cheeseburger for a week and move on…forgettable – and thats a concern…cause it COULD be so much more…like D2 was, like WoW was, like War3 and SC were…not another D3 though please – it would be strike 3 for the Diablo community…D3 & Immortal being strike 1 & 2
this game is epic. love it
It’s really slow and boring
My God these reviews are so outta control. The game isn’t even out yet and a thousand dfrikken takes. Just play the game yourself and decide. I really wish this shit would stop with all this over speculation on games
i think it would be more relevant to compare to Diablo 3 – its criticisms that, a decade later, are no longer contested and understood to be relevant – things like the high fantasy nature and colorful aspects and simplicity of the itemization, etc etc…those ended up resulting in it being Blizzard’s 1st big failure (not financially, but both by the community and even internally inside Blizzard as Jay Wilson has said)…that’s kind of how i feel about D4 – it looks like D3 didnt learn its lessons…its a darker D3…which is generic today.
The harshest critics of this game are, what I call the D2 Zealots. Like that Llama guy. Here’s the thing that needs to be addressed, and I wish some of you creators would acknowledge and address the main issue these folks have. It’s not the itemization, the UI, the graphics, skill tree, etc. These people are chasing a unicorn. By that I mean they are chasing the experience and feeling you got the 1st time they played D2. D2 defined the genre. A game can only do that once. No other game is ever going to capture that experience for these people. It’s impossible.
They rail on every single aRPG that has come after D2 and none of them are good enough. They never will be either. The best they’ll ever get is D2R. Since they can’t seem to move on and accept that D2 was a once in a lifetime experience, they should just stay there then. They’re are in for a lifetime of disappointment in every other aRPG that comes out. It’s sad really.
Perhaps there are not many players for the free beta because some; like me, must wait to get in for more than 40 minutes!!!! I, personally, cannot wait for so long!
I love Diablo and even if I cannot try it I will for sure play it when it will be available! 😍
The constant disconnects and long que times are terrible.
This game is everything I hoped for and then exceeded my expectations. I think because of Blizzard as a company is why this game is getting torn apart.
I’ve had a great time so far! Playing a sorceress and necro, leaning more towards a safer necro. Graphics of PoE, smooth gameplay, great audio, the only issue I have is that it’s always online… One moment I’m checking on vendors then the next I lag like crazy and the game drags me 30 feet backwards. Or it completely freezes, then ties me up and drags me around 😤
Finished playing the free Beta, got to level 17 and the game is alright. The weakest part of the game is definitely the skill twig and the customization of said skills. We still have uniques and paragon, but I’m scared that most of it is gonna be more % increases of whatever they give us.
Blizzard making a survival game this late to the trend is just another rotten cherry on their ruined shitty cake 😀
I get it that its in beta and all but shts criminal when you play after a long que and then you get error only to be forced to que again. Mind you not even 5 mins of playtime before you get another error.
Great video!
I’ve only seen good reviews other than this
I enjoy it a lot whenever I can play. Issue is…. Playing without crashing or DCing.
I feel nothing when playing this.
It’s beyond boring. But I’ve felt like that about the entire genre ever since D2. Antiquated isometric view, clunky yawn inducing combat, dopamine lottery, etc.
If you’re a gamer who has gamed everything under the sun since the dawn of pixels, gotten rid of the “I game for loot to be able to get more loot” syndrome and have evolved because of it then these kind of games have nothing to offer…maybe a shame, I dunno.
Ive seen nothing but good feedback so far tbh
diablo 4 is nothing but a revamped cash grab of diablo immortal, it sucks hard. Yes i do know what im talking about as my NDA disclosure is now up due to the open public beta launch. I was in the development testing QA team and some other small parts, not a blizz employee to be clear, but contractor. im a long term diablo series fan, been playing hard on them since day 1 of diablo 1 launch and all versions and expansions to date till then. so i do know some about the series more then most ever will. since ive also done some behind the scenes closed
The AI is super terrible. its not lively, move to area, then the stuff spawn in after you run by if your lag or not means you lived or died due to the horrid optimization and enemy spawn system within the world. or they dont spawn at all, or they are so unbalanced. T
he level progression system is just one of the worst ever in a level progression adventuring type game ive ever played.
Short of the game is its simple a remaster skin but exactly the same game as diablo immortal with total cash grab system in place to make the game so super UNFUN its disgusting.
thier is valid reasons for the hate of the game. i should know some of my code is in the game. but the main devs are simply political playing terrible people that are not driving the game to be great at all, they are being presssed by the upper brass to get it out as fast as possible and add as much monetization items add in after the initial purchase to milk the game as long as possible for profit. FUN is not in the equation here at all long term.
I have no doubt that any current problems with itemization and other will be balanced out eventually. But, I could be saying that “well done, Blizzard” line in a sarcastic way if the story will suck, and I have fears it will. Hopefully I’m wrong, but we’ll see. I will still enjoy the game, it’s really great, but I will also point out what I consider to be a MAJOR red flag, and there is at least one.
The main thing i want is to play offline in Diablo 4. the lag and bugs i get is HORRIBLE!. the main reason i enjoyed D2 and D3 is because it was OFFLINE!. 😥
I am not a huge arpg fan, but I am interested in D4.. looks good n I really like the mmo aspect.
That being said , I did have a blast with D1 when it came out. I remember my friend and I in shock, when we got pk’d in town. ( that’s when that hack came out.. ha fun gaming memories.
missed the mark on the peak concurrent for poe by a bit, not all of its user-base launch it through steam
I like it. I am not a min/maxer or “1337 Pr0” but the game is fun to me. I look forward to the seasons, battle passes, etc. DLC Paladin… maybe?
Force.. I think you’re a real one.
Can’t believe you didn’t mention Quin69’s review
I don’t care what anyone has to say about the game because for me, the game is fun. I’m definitely buying this day one 👊🏿
i prefer D3 atm because D4 feels slow as fuck but im sure its cause were early.
i think end game will be better..my biggest gripe so far is the character creation system is a fucking joke.
Cool headset what’s the name I whant to buy
Got up at 5am local to give it a jam. Played an hour and a half before the lads got up. The story seemed average, the GUI was clunky, the skill leveling was very basic but it looked cool and the sound design was great.
Once the lads got up we began trying to log in and party up. One of the lads had consistent log in issues and as of now – 9 hours after launch, he has not been able to get a stable log in and the 3 remaining guys have had intermittent drop outs, constant rubber banding, hard crashes and general struggles to get a solid session lasting more than 10 minutes.
Even if the game is great, if you cant log in with your buddies that’s a big L for Diablo IV. With the VAST resources and experience available to Activision/Blizzard, this is not a good look.
As someone who prefers single player gaming, I find the mmo elements clunky and confusing and out of place to the rest of the experience.
cant wait for d4 🙂
I’m among the first to say Ultima Online was the best MMO ever (also greatly appreciate you using clips of it here). With that said, those days can never be recreated, it was a vastly different landscape back then and that experience simply cannot be relived.
I sort of felt the same way that the people in your video did towards WoW, yeah it was theme-parky, more casual, etc, but I also enjoyed it. I agree with your sentiment towards Diablo 4, i’ve been playing the open beta all day and i’m enjoying it.
The last time I played Diablo was in the summer of 2000 before I sold my D2 account after they nerfed WW barbarian and Corpse Explosion necro, my 2 main chars. Funny enough, I actually got into Ultima Online because I bought StarCraft in 1998 which led me to Battle Net which lead me to Diablo.
I was playing a “legit PKK” meaning no hacks, cheats, or dupes, every item used was items I looted myself. I was something like level 36 and I got “mk’d” (monster killed) which basically meant someone resurrected me in a huge mob of monsters, when I died I dropped all of my gear which was then taken. I complained and the dude said something like “Just wait until you play Ultima Online and lose EVERYTHING”. Enticed, I bit the bullet and got into UO which remains to this day my favorite game of all time.
Guess i’ll stop rambling, my 50 minute queue to get back into the server is almost up.
At least, not me, love this game so much
I liked D4 as well. I understand this is a BETA and the complete game will have more and varied content. If it is this same content over and over, I’ll change my tune. However, I also understand earlier versions of Diablo were improved extensively over time and that is the plan with Diablo 4 as well. To expect a fully fleshed out perfect game in version 1.0 Beta is not realistic – at all.
As of level 25 xD
No such place as trissfall dude.
If 🧢 was a video. Everyone loves this game despite the minor issues.
Why is no one talking about the paragon system? We haven’t seen it yet, how can you judge the complexity of the game without seeing it i don’t understand.
saying this game is bad right now is like tasting the butter, never biting into the waffle, and then saying the meal is bad because you didn’t like the taste of the butter and you’re also really fgkcniu stupid.
Well said.
No shot, I was just wondering how Liam was doing. I watch Your Overwatch still with Freedo and I was missing him and was wondering what he was up too.
To me the biggest con is… enemy running animations. Enemies often slide like michael jackson, or they cover unnaturally large distance with their steps. It’s just such an immersion killer for me… It shouldn’t even be a thing in a game that costs $70. It feels more like a cheap diablo clone, not a real diablo game. It may sound like a such a small, ridiculously irrelevant issue, but it’s there and it really annoys me.
Reminder for everyone that this channel posts click bait titles, makes up random bs, and promotes whatever game developer pays him
boring ass game
I am having a BLAST with D4, can’t wait until full release. I ignore all the negative noise. I’m no fanboy of Activision, not by ANY means. I applaud the developers on this project. Players are only beginning to understand the systems in place, they are turning out to be quite deep. Currently, most remain undiscovered. I think this game has legs and I plan on putting in many hours. Will watch for your new channel.
People hate it because it’s not Diablo 2 they really need to get over it and enjoy the newer evolution of Diablo and if this game fails, the series will be no more.
Basecamp Orange ftw 🔥
King of clickbait titles returns!
I am one of those players that WON’T buy the game if the end game is shit. I’m not spending another 70$ on a game that’s just made to attract casual players that like pretty graphics and flashy animations… I want an arpg that has longevity, build variety and good difficulty. So far every review I’ve seen has come from people that played games like these for 30 hours and that was it.
nah everyone hates force gaming 0/10 noob channel keemstar fugly twin
Love the game! Been with Diablo universe from the beginning. Haters gonna hate…Don’t like the game?! Don’t play it…
this isnt diablo its a ripoff of POE and ESO with a diablo 3 skin on it. we were lied to and I won’t pay $70 for lies and ripoffs. I won’t pretend to like it because I want to. blizzard is greedy and this greed ruined the franchise 10 years ago. this is just another nail in the coffin. I hope you find something better to play after wasting your time on silly paragons or whatever the fuck this bullshit becomes. no runes? lmao. individual loot? lol . damage numbers flying everywhere like shitty MMOS? LOL I feel bad for you
the simple folk think OH GREAT NO MORE JSP (Because they cant handle someone else finding a shako in week 1 of ladder LMFAO) but those people never got drops that are too valuable for the average trade window like a JMOD or elite rare circlets / crafted ammys . some shit in diablo 2 was too rare to trade for SOJS or jah runes and binding this to our accounts is like choosing to make sure your game is crippled and full of snowflakes. this bullshit is NOT diablo.
After the Pre Release Beta Preview 1st day and people waiting 118 minutes to queue in, I can see why a lot of people would feel hatred towards Blizzard/Diablo 4. I have hopes it will turn out to be great though. Loved the Sorcerer in Diablo IV.
It is impossible for me to want to support a company that actively restricts freedom of speech, and refuses to give the money they promised all in favor of communist money. Will not be buying this hot garbage.
Someone half ur level SHOULD be weak af.
One thing that people seem to be forgetting, is that most of the games that Blizzard made in the past, where “okay” until they got their expansion pack, where they became insanely good: starcraft, diablo 2, warcraft 3 … diablo 2 had tons of problems until LoD came out.
Games for gays
Yea I saw mainly positive reviews and I enjoyed the game. Hell I still play D3 when new seasons drop. The game 🔥 to me so I say a well spent $70 imo
Its just come out… plenty of time for mods.
I really love this game so far. I hate the negative energy the internet allows people to release in the universe. Who cares, if you don’t like it, don’t play it. Geezz.
Not people i know.
I’m not watching your dumb s*** click bait video. It’s definitely not a 4/10.
As long as it keeps my attentions like d3 or inquisitor martyr then I’ll enjoy it
“Lack of innovation.” Bruh what do you expect them to do? Invent the wheel? If these bozos don’t enjoy the game then oh well. 🤷🏻♂️ the game is a lot of fun
well said. I think hard core players sometimes dont account for the business fundamentals which really drive the development of games like these. Activision Blizz ultimately has to be accountable to its shareholders first, not niche subset of its gaming community. What this means is that they have to make a game that appeals to the mass market.
I think if they name the game something else then it will be less compared to d2
I”m enjoying it allot. old school diablo player.
My biggest concerns are: class balance, lag, and skill tree.
skill tree feels more limited in ways then d3 was, though you do get a nice selection of skills at each tier, it still doesn’t feel like the “expansive” skill tree that everyone was getting hyped for. Perhaps once it’s released, and we can see the other options that become available as we grow, this will change.
Class balance early on is a concern for me. I do get their principle that “some” classes become better as we get higher level and more options are available. But melee classes still feel very underwhelming compared to ranged classes. It seems like the damage is the same on both types, and this can lead to melee being very weak as they have much more movement required. d3 solved this by just boosting defenses for melee classes by a ton. perhaps this will be needed here. And even though I get that many of the streamers like the “challenge” of the melee classes, the average player will see the imbalance and just not play them, nor invite them to groups. This needs to be fixed.
Lastly, the lag. Oh man, the lag. I respect those who are digging into hardcore right now, as its quite dangerous. This could just be due to the limited server space on the Beta, but if it continues to live, It could be a game killer.
Just watch… the same people who apparently hate this game are the ones who have Pre-ordered the game just to be one of the first people playing it. It’s so stupid how the want a Beta to be a full fixed game. Dummies. 🙄
these people are just haters.
After putting in some hours today the game just feels really mid to me. I wouldn’t call it boring, but I also wouldn’t really say I was having fun either.
Don’t start a second channel! It won’t work out, hasn’t worked in the past for other YouTubers
People played outrageous Immortal. Ofcourse D4 will be a hotshot.
Your “opinion” is NOT the opinion of the masses. Take your troll bait and put it back in your mom’s basement!!
I think a good way of putting into words the issue with the dungeons, is that if you queue up for a random strike in destiny 2 (the dungeon equivalent) I can immediately tell which strike I’m doing. No matter where I spawn into from. But with Diablo, it’s all so samey, that I could never tell you which dungeon I’m in or what boss to expect.
I really like the idea of unlocking aspects through dungeon completions, but I think I would have just preferred less dungeons but more variety and in depth mechanics
What a click bait title. Not one review is bad
DIABLO 4 SUCKS ! Here is what YOU don’t understand … there is one BIG GLARING PROBLEM thats been there… by this company (BLIZZARD) ….since they launched their BATTLE FOR AZEROTH expansion which is NOW BASELINE for EVERYTHING THEY ARE PRODUCING…. Here it is …. are you ready …. BLIZZARD FORCES PEOPLE TO LEVEL UP FOR NO REASON AND NO BENIFIT TO THE PLAYER BUT RATHER FOR THE BENIFIT OF ENGAMENT aka “timesink” FOR THE COMPANY…. How this works is (since said wow expansion) blizzard codes their game so that every time you level up all the monsters(mobs) around you get PERCENT BASED DAMAGE RESISANCE to players …. so instead of the leveling up and getting stronger you are FOREVER GETTING WEAKER… AKA LAZY DEV WORK …. which also leads to the MASSIVE problem that divides the player base into people who know about this and complain early (BETA) and people who complain about this but don’t even realize it till they get to endgame (CASUALS) …. EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY FINDS THIS OUT BUT IT DOESNT MATTER BECUASE BLIZZARD ALREADY GOT THE MONEY AND SWITCHES MODES TO ENGAEMENT aka 6 months wow sub aka cosmetic grind aka store bought goods aka BATTLE PASS to perpetuate FOMO and then thats all the game is about for years because all blizzard will do is say “we hear you” and make a few number changes but nothing fundamental. LEVELING UP NOWDAYS IN A BLIZZARD PRODUCT IS AN ILLUSION ! YOU NEVER ACTUALLY LEVEL UP …. THATS THE PROBLEM YOU DONT GET ! Blizzard switched from being the masters of making a game to instead being the masters of making an illusion of a game.
Yeah because it’s Diablo Immortal 2 basically….. not going to be playing this tbh.
Looks like a hard pass. I was there for Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Diablo 3 & the first Apple computer. This looks like Diablo 3 Remake. It’s missing whole systems that makes the game Diablo. I’m still waiting for that Diablo 1 or Diablo 2 Universe, this is something else.
I love diablo iv…
The answer is yes, the lackluster will hit the major playerbase, just later than the experienced gamer. So far D4 seems like a reskinned D3. Same monster families, similar systems etc. I am worried for D4 tbh
I just tried d4 for abour 5 hours, had a blast, can’t wait to play more tomorow. Prety sure going to preorder after open beta.
Totally agree, people are way to negative about the game and most dont realise that diablo 4 and blizzard game in general has the casual player as its main focus group, even if they have endgame and tries with complex systems they streamline it towards casuals as much they can
as someone whos played Diablo 2 religiously for 21 years I am very let down by what I experienced playing the beta this morning, I think POE is superior to this so far and the graphics are not impressive to me at least. I am someone who will likely buy the game and play it until the end because thanks to the ending of D3 I want to see the story to the end so it will likely be a one time play through with zero replay-ability for me and back to D2 I go.
Crazy how I feel I’m the exact opposite. I feel I care less today about the hardcore elements of a pve game and more about the casual experience. A game that can hold my attention longer than 100 hours that isn’t a competitive pvp game is already a rarity. I likely don’t need the game to be satisfying for 1000 hours because I’ll have had my fill by 100. And, based on the beta, my 100 hours with D4 will be a fantastic time. If its does hold my attention longer and it becomes my next game with over 1000 hours, then that’s fantastic! However, I won’t be upset if I “only” get 100 hours out of it. Also, like you said, this is Blizzard’s bread and butter. Take what works, make it work for the masses. They are doing it again here and it’s shaping up to be a great game.
I just really hate the “shared world”. Diablo has always been a single player with the option to group with friends for me and I don’t like being forced to “mmo”.
I don’t get why people praise asmongold…
Ok so before i watch this….Are people actually hating Diablo 4 or is this just some kind of clickbait that has some reddit comments attached to it? Because those are totally 2 different things. Or is this just clickbait?
I mean “everyone hates”? And i have seen many videos with fairly positive previews? So….how can everyone hate it if some players like it or at least think it is decent? Yeah i think i answered my for myself….another clickbait with diablo 4 name attached to it.
Dude – POE has a lot more than ~100k concurrent players. It has had over 1m concurrent players at league starts, frequently.
Steam numbers are 100k. 90% of players dont play on steam. It wasnt even available on steam until it was an 8 year old game.
it costs $70 for a game that you wont own as it requires internet connection to play even solo.
$70 for the right to play the game. i dont even know if its an MMORPG and if after paying $70 are you still presented with microtransactions ?
The beta is so good!!
The power scaling is the worst for me. I wanna feel like a god. Instead I feel weaker having to hit basic trash me multiple times just with a max build
Looks like a shitty mobile game
lvl up and getting weak? don`t worry only for 5 bucks You can purchase better equipment. at least this is what AC series turned into. As a non diablo player I can say, game visually and storywise looks interesting. But fighting hordes of trash looks dull (i`ve seen fire mage dangeon run). For some reason Tyranny`s rpg combat system is far more interesting. Trash runing at You – spam abilities. You are ranged – kite, You are melle – tank.
Click bait for views and likes fu
Nope not a super nerd though played Diablo 1 og. Long as it works like so few other games at launch I’m happy .
Most the cons are for content , gotta make content . It would be short if you liked everything and had no criticism.
More like the game didn’t live up to the imaginary expectations people had in their head that it was going to be D2 2.0. There’s literally people out there giving it a low rating because it “plays like a diablo game” That should tell you all you need to know to not take anything these clowns says seriously.
lol i doubt diablo 4 or any diablo game has 150k players…seriously they don’t give player counts so ya, doubt
I dislike the level scaleing and im not a fan of the items right now either but i cant understand when hardcore d2 fans criticising the dungeons and their repetitivness. In d2 all the things you did in “endgame” is rushing baal and or mephisto all the time. Thats it, no dungeons to revisit no other things to look at. Only baal and his laughter that is carved into my memory^^. So yeah , THAT was repetitiv.
I love how people talk about not even 25 % of a game ( even worse when it’s early game ) and say a ton of problem about it when an hack n slash fun is end game … imo just like saying strategy game is boring because it’s not hard enough when it became harder the more you played … the 25 first lvl or d4 is perfect , we can’t talk shit about the game for now … because imo any farm oriented game start when you farm and start to create build with stuff set
I ‘ve a lot of hours of d2 d3 and even path of exile … and god early game was boring as hell even more than d4 . Path of exile start when you are quite far in skill tree , i probably played thousand of hours of early game for season in d3 so i know what i’m talking about , d4 will be garbage tho if they only make a few build viable per char and some p2w shop , else it will be d 2 d3 mix with all good thins inside. Just hope there will be a lot of special effet for legendary so that you can make a lot of strong and fun build !
D4 does not resonate with me… Sorry but I got several things I do not enjoy.
Font is a legitimate concern. There are a lot of visually impaired people out there, including myself, to were illegible fonts does matter.
I don’t. People are just Grade A crybabies LOL!!
Not me, I love it and can’t wait!
I liked it and am looking forward for the full release
I’m enjoying it but yes the “skill tree” needs to change
Character creator is absolutely shameful! Female druid looking like Rosanne Barr makes the game lose like 2 points out of a 10 point system
I’ll play it then 100% go back to project Diablo 2. Pd2 has much more depth and detail into what type of builds you can do and tons of dungeons and rifts. Sad to say but d2 will be the last and only good game of the kind. Thank God mod tools are available so we enjoy project Diablo 2. Sad to say no modding will be allowed in Diablo 4 so it will be boring and dead and boring within 6 months.
I love the game. Todays gamers can’t be pleased.
I think the word EVERYONE may have been an overstretch here.
‘Hardcore’ players may want more from the game, but they don’t make up the vast majority of players. Hopefully though Blizz can go some way to appease all audience types.
Why use a comparison and then say this won’t be that though? It is fine to have subjective feelings.
do you need to buy a subscription to play the final product once its fully release like WoW monthly
I’ve been waiting for 27 years for them to match the grim dark feel of the original Diablo. They nailed it!
Don’t Y’all,Have Phone’s😂😂😂 💙
Just feels like Immortal IMO. Dont trust Blizzard….. but we will see what game is released and how it holds up for a few months.
How can someone judge an MMO prior to launch without knowing what it’s long term support is going to look like? The D4 beta was just as you said, it wasn’t groundbreaking but it was fun to play. That’s a fantastic start and we won’t know how great it is until we see what happens 3 months after release.
D4 is fkn AMAZING!!!!!
70 euros and paid battle passes kills it for me.
I think Diablo Is just kinda lame at this point.
I swear people complain for the sake of fucking complaining these days.
what you dont seem to understand is that this is supposed to be the real expansion for d2 as d3 was hot dogshit and so far, d4 sucks. guess i’ll play d2 for another 10 years and hope d5 is good.
What a coincidence, FONT THEORY is the name of my edgy, ironic world of warcraft guild
Trash game made by a trash company
Streamer review is not same as pure player review. Aztecross himself lublicly admit that if not streaming he wil play bare minimum destiny 2. Many streamer play to crrtain degree to milk the game content and move on to other new game. The difference is even though the game is bad they will play if they hav build their content on that game to generate view. In other word they are working not playing. U hav to work even though u don like your job.
I think people take it out of context. Unless they’ve played all the way to end game. I compare more to just starting out at tristram and completing the first chapter in d2 or act 1 of d3 when it was released. Both were slow. And yes d4 beta is extremely slow. For both barb and rogue (if you want to build a melee rogue) you needed good synergy in legendaries for it to feel somewhat better and that’s fine. While d4 is more mmo-like I still quite prefer the way they’ve done it here which is a very good start to the campaign.
I’m already seeing bits and pieces of gear that will make it a bit more interesting that previous iterations have. CDR and life on hit, etc these are all back along with d2 like affixes on gear like a particular element damage, bonus skill levels and so on. Given the live-service natuure you’d hope at least they’d add more dungeon layouts in the future.
Scaling will kill longevity in D4.
Most of the D2 crowd will return to D2.
About half the D3 crowd will return to D3.
Half the zoomers will lose interest before season 1 even starts.
Calling it.
D4 to me is an updated D2 with some added features, might be an unpopular opinion but that’s what it seems like.
The game looks awful. This game was thrown together from scraps and it shows. Pass for me.
If the ladder system is like Diablo 3 then it will suck again. Favoring specific specs and forcing you to rune them out the way the devs want is not player choice.
D4 feels like a proper sequel to D2. D3 just has a strange air about it, idk. I hope D4 doesn’t turn into D3 as time goes on, there’s fuck all to do.
You have your right to give your opinion. I think D4 is awesome, and honestly, if you think this isn’t for you just don’t buy it and let us have fun.
Boycott this woke trash
I don’t think any of these talking heads have any clue what they’re talking about. The game doesn’t need to be revolutionary to be fun. Who cares if it’s repetitive, all gaming is – we wouldn’t have new games if developers saw people playing a single title for years, even decades.
I agree with alot of the criticisms about this game, but the one i personally find stupid is about the graphics. Although this is coming from someone who can play a game from 2009 and not mind the graphics, I must say that calling the graphics of D4 bad is arguably wrong. Maybe the dark art style creates an illusion of lesser graphics or the camera height, because if you for example zoom in on a road, the textures of the mud and water are amazing. Idk, sometimes i feel like people will call out graphics and then play something like vampire survivors.
Loving game myself. I expect instability right now as servers are throttled though.
This video is a joke…
Everyone that bases their thoughts and experiences on youtubers opinions hate the game, But everyone that thinks for themselves they love it. I personally love everything about it its the best of D2 combined with the best of D3 with gorgeous graphics and smooth gameplay
It’s a live game, destiny mixed with path of exiles I thought it be like d3 single player nope it’s not I can see it getting a season pass that only a delete able season charicter can only play
I love the game, so far its the best arpg i have ever played. Looking forward to release!
What i’m worried is that to be hyped about D4 and become massively disappointed by an aggressive monetization / service server type / pay2win system.
For me it’s the boring ass itemization. Boring items in an Arpg is like a mmo that’s not online.
Also for your remark at 11:10 those are steam numbers. poe has its own launcher and the team often talk about conc players which for example during the kalandra league was 250k
Lol stop lying.
remember, regular ass people dont go to the diablo forums to moan about a game. most of us just play it, or dont. think of the type of people taking time to post on there…
I’m enjoying d4 so far. I hope these bad reviews don’t set the release date to a “late” 2023, but it seems that this will happen anyway 🙁
Asmond Gold? Ok, I’m unsubbing…
Sorry force I gotta dislike, for the clear click bait title. I watched 5+ reviews from major figures in the community and NONE of them gave it a 4
My main complaint is the dungeon layouts. They’re very simple and kinda boring.
I’ve been playing Diablo since the original came out, and even today the first time I beat that original Diablo game has been my favorite and most memorable Diablo moment. But, even though I still haven’t felt the way I did during that first run through, I still loved Diablo 2, Diablo 3 and their expansions. In fact, I actually enjoyed both the gameplay and story of Diablo 3, and I’ve loved going back and playing Diablo 2 Resurrected. So for me, I’ve been super stoked with Diablo 4. I love the darker mood and tone. I love the gore, and the gameplay has been far more varied than that of its predecessors. It’s not a perfect game, not yet, but it’s damned impressive, and anyone giving this Beta harsh reviews, I would really question their narrative here.
No. Everyone doesn’t hate the game. People just like to complain and negative thumbnails and bitching gets views. It’s not perfect but people need to stop fucking crying.
Played maybe an hour, feels good…like it. Need more difficulty though. Like, way higher difficulty. Seasoned gamer, played quite a bit of Diablo in my day. Games too easy, if I’m to criticize anything. But ive also only played an hour.
“Diablo IV is bad?” My response: What?
How, skip the mumbo jumbo garbled jarble. Why is the game bad, argue to or against. Clicking off ✌️
Do love you though but don’t care
I think for myself lol
The majority of people won’t sink 50+ hours into this game. Some of the reviews are from the perspective if you plan on playing 350 – 1000 hours which they feel this game won’t hold up as is. Ofc seasons will come and bring some fresh air but there are issues.
yep its shit and we all knew it would be
People are just way overthinking it. I played the beta and I had a lot of fun. But I’m not sitting around having a identity crisis over wondering if the game will have thousands of hours of replayability and endgame content.
Only streamers and influencers do. the rest of us are having a blast in Diablo 4 Beta!
It does look good but I’m not playing it yet since i expect them to turn it into a grindey monetized POS a month after release. Don’t want to get set up like I was for D3. if that doesn’t happen I’ll buy it then.
There is always someone dont like a Game ….. Its human xD
That’s weird. Like everything I’ve seen has been positive!
the question is why u make a game that dont event add more gamplay or bring new thing to the table. than polising your old game that not even bad.
Imagine your talking with someone and they ask what game you play and you reply Diablo 😂😂😂😂
I think everything you listed about wow is why I could never get into it 😀
SC2 is dumbed down C&C?
Kripp the salty angry cry baby.
This guy gets it.
most people critique games and they play them for like 12 hours a day, its their jobs, but sometimes those reviews are completely irrelevant to a majority of players who log into games for couple hours a week. their critique is valid, but most take it as, “oh game bad”.
The awnser is no I don’t care about any of those “issues”
No they don’t?
I played till i got the wolf cub, for the rest i want to go in blind ’till it’s full and ready and then play it in my own pace. nothing rushed, no outer influences, not looking anything up on the internet. I’m sure it’s going to be a blast.
Never thought I’d hear articulate and Asmongold used in tandem. Also keep in mind most people don’t use Steam to launch PoE, same deal with FF14; most use the separate client so it’s not a good measurement of player numbers of those game.
Can I get force fed in this new channel???
Bruh people dont know whata bete really is, like the early access beta is for us to try what they have done so far and give feedback, but then we have people expecting a fully finished game on a beta. Thats what ends up killing games before release.
There is some potential, but it feels like the game needs another year before it’s ready.
Cutscenes can’t decide if they’re 21:9 or 16:9, subtitles are always on.
HDR is pretty bad, almost nothing is black black, so instead you get this really ugly banding all the time.
FSR has some bad bugs, at one point my whole screen sparkled for no apparent reason.
Always online is laggy, when leaving a city things rubber band really badly.
The game looks fun, but blizzard has a bad reputation on monetization, if they add in-game purchase after launch I won’t be buying it.
Imagine a world where some video games aren’t for you.
Lol… I hate Krip so much
6:23 what game is this?
3.5/10
the dungeon repetition Needs a fix. they Need to add random mechanics and genuinely powerful (rare) loot. things that make the player’s jaw drop when it happens or they receive it. the DOPAMINE rush.
Got to love clickbait.
Bad? Wtf? I like it a lot so far. People are crazy man.
I recently finally finished Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Why? Because there was an overhaul that destroyed my arch nemesis – level scaling. I will not touch any crap that has unlimited level scaling. Having enemies increase in power with you but slower – okay. The moment I go fight the same scenario and feel weaker for being… stronger… no. Any game that does this can go $%& itself and I want nothing to do with it. And I am a huge diablo fan. Or maybe I was.
you got it right! people seem to just be hating just for the sake of hating
imagine u play open beta and someone has issues with the fonts…its just sad
Not really understanding this video. Just seems like you are trying to defend Blizzard by comparing it to WoW and PoE? Completely different audience from WoW and for PoE you are pulling only steam numbers, when the majority of players are on the standalone client. Aside from all of that, why do you feel the need to defend anything? The game will speak for itself and whatever you say is not going to change everyone’s mind. Interesting to see that you say all these negative things then just put a blanket idea of “Oh well I like the casual nature of it and thats what Diablo is and always will be, so suck it up”. No one is complaining about it being casual, people are complaining because some things in the game seem so blatantly overlooked that it surprises people how they wouldn’t understand how it wouldn’t be fun or interesting. Things like picking up items, which can be interrupted by any form of damage, to be used to unlock a door, which can be interrupted again. Small details like this show cracks in the foundation of a game people have been looking to see some groundbreaking things for the genre.
I really liked diablo 4 but meh it’s not gonna beat Re4 remake in games of the year so doesn’t really bother me with the scores even the slightest lol
Even if it doesn’t matter. We still have the right to complain.
Thank you for saying what you said about font.
People are complaining that the dungeon crawler…. has too much… dungeon crawling? 😅
I think everyone hated WoW because it was like a watered-down version of EverQuest (which imo was the superior game). However, WoW became much more successful because it appealed to a larger fan base (many more casual players), which ultimately killed the growth of EQ. It’s been a pattern repeated many times over the years with many games.. part of the reason why it seems many games these days are more oriented for kids. The more hardcore Diablo players probably yearn more for something closer to the original formula (like with EQ players) where there’s more risk vs reward, immersion, depth, etc.. and in general more of a game for adults with a challenge
The game has so many lifeless things to it. It wont hold people’s interest for years to come like PoE, d2, LE, GD and so on. Its a game catering to causals and holding hands in the process and people can see right through it.
No offense, but if you think the dungeons in D4 are more interesting and an improvement over D3, you’re smoking good stuff. Yes, they LOOK nicer, but they are like 90% static boring linear affairs. The: find a key, get two cubes, kill all monsters, click on all the things is DULL, unimaginative design. It’s LAZY.
How can anyone think the non random dungeons of D4 are an improvement on the genre? It’s a massive regression.
heh. There is nothing that would ever convince me to give Blizzard a single extra dollar. They have burned that bridge between us quite a while ago. That said, if others enjoy it thats fine. Ultimately we are free to choose whatever.
I loved the beta. My only turn off would be the mechanics of progression. If it’s too tied to mtx or too grindy, I’ll loose interest. Obviously grinding is core to ARPG, so I understand and have a healthy threshold for it.
The vical minority. The rest of us are having a good time.
Only thing i don’t like is the talent tree. I liked how it worked in disblo 3 better. Easier to test builds and less tedious
you’re almost at 1m
dope
Can Blizz please, please, resurrect their project to create a Starcraft MMO. I’d never leave my house playing that.
The only game that could beat d2 is a competitive starcraft arpg diablo like where u can play all the 3 races. Could you imagine playing as a zerg and evolve yourself in a stronger monster?
It’s simply d2 nostalgia chads trying to bring D4 down… Let’s be real, besides expected server issues during beta.. the game is doing really well.
Very few, besides the big names, seem to be able to properly critique the game as intended.
Clickbait ass title dude, be better.
Clickbate…
When I play the game I have fun. That’s what matters to me
I agree it doesn’t have that special diablo thing going for it. Looks and feels like d3 and that’s not a good thing. Only reason some people like it is because they’ve been numbed by immortal to the point of exasperation and anything is better after that trash. But in terms of stand-alone game it lacks big time. It’s repetitive, dull and forgettable. They should have added a lot more.
Thank You!!
Dunno what universe you live in. But everyone I know and most online loves it.
“I don’t think D4 will blow up that much”
Later in the video:
“Oh, I’m making a second channel JUST FOR D4 VIDEOS” 😂
Thank you for all the videos. See you on the new channel
i just dont understand how people could start rating it if the content they gave is only up to lvl 25 with only one extra difficulty…. like wtf
Starcraft didn’t dumb down the RTS, in fact many might say that Starcraft is more complex. Really what are you saying is what was said about Diablo III, and I would say the PoE was and is a better game than Diablo III was or is. The Blizzard that made WoW, Starcraft I and II, Warcraft I, II, and III, and Diablo and Diablo II is gone. It has been replaced buy Activision Blizzard, and messed up by Bobby Kodic. So these concerns are going to be more real. And Diablo IV will sell well but will fade fast too, its numbers will drop hard.
When you don’t listen to influences your life gets better. Criticism is good, but crying about a game 3 months out and only experiencing a quarter of the lvling experience is a bit whiney. Power scaling needs work
Honestly 90% of peoples complaints at this point are likely to change and be improved upon in some way come launch or during the post launch support. However my biggest issue with the game is probably something that cannot be fixed. To me somehow this game just feels so clunky. The animations are stiff, there is little to no hit registration on your attacks. Enemies dont react appropriately to your attacks. The hit boxes on attacks do not at all line up with animations. And the controls just feel very unresponsive. At the end of the day it does not have fun engaging skill based combat mechanics. This I think is a typical thing for these types of games but I was hoping that d4 would somehow push the genre and set a new standard for isometric rpgs in terms of interactive engaging combat but honestly this just feels so terrible to play for me. I think I have just maybe out grown this type of game. I prefer much faster placed skill based action rpgs and this just isnt that. I know an isometric rpg can have very engaging skill based mechanics like V Rising but this old school point and click things to death just does not do it for me anymore.
feels like diablo 3. No thanks.
I’m just annoyed waypoints don’t unlock unless you click on them.
The more gameplay I see the more it just looks like diablo 3. Like why pay a lot of money for a game i already have?
Man they have really dumbed down the skills extremely lazy
Leveling scaling sucks, though maybe there is a limit to it per act? Act 1 mobs scale up to level 25 etc
Its a very mediocre game. I honestly can’t believe they went with this UI and skill tree. It’s baffling.
I like it. The game is fine
Calling it now, in regard to that unannounced thing from blizzard? its going to be paid DLC featuring – The Paladin.
I think you made the best point when you said the game is just fun. that is all I am looking for myself. I can never get into PoE because the talent board overwhelms me, and find way to complicated for it’s own good. This will appeal to those who just want to log in, slaughter demons, log out. Sometimes simple is better. Asmon covered that basically in his one video, describing exactly how i play Diablo. Play it for 4-6 weeks, put it down for a few months, come back later for a few weeks, then put down, rinse and repeat. I can see me doin this with D4 an enjoying it every time. The story is intriguing, the voice acting amazing, and literally could care less bout the rest, as I am having fun slaughtering the evil in the world of sanctuary.
it will all make sense when they introduce microtransactions, game pass and what not!
Freshman in college during wow beta…wooowee you are an old one eh. Mid 40s at least 😂
Gaming communities have always been like that.. Bitch about new content and stuff coming out but years later say it was the best.. Very apparent in Destiny community. Hell, even Halo 2 (my personal favorite of all Halos) was generally well received. People complained about playing as arbiter and said game was crap and ruined because of that lol all people do is complain, entitled kids imo
Consider me subscribed to your future D4 channel! Can’t wait!
Why the clickbait?
I’ve seen nothing but good things about D4. lol
A small minority crying isn’t even worth mentioning….
great video! But ffs man sort out your beard XD
Not everyone… Really enjoying it played the pre order beta as well looking forward to the full release
I want WASD support!
yes cause its trash!
So big companies still haven’t worked out having enemies level with averages (between you and area designated numbers) instead of you directly?
all the issues wont matter on release but in a month when no one plays the game anymore and no one comes back for seasons you will have full on panic at blizzard
•Reused Assets galore
•$70 Buy-In Price WITH A PAYED BATTLEPASS
•Always Online, this is to give every some sort of “Live Service” Vibe so that they can justify the Microtransactions and Payed Battlepass
•Oh and Microtransactions like I spoke about previously
To all the whales who will of course put buckets of money into this game and help Bobby Kotick buy his forth Ferrari jet boat… You are a cáncer on the gaming community
I quite enjoyed it personally. Legendries aren’t the end game item they are in D3, so I don’t expect them to be mind-blowing or build defying, we have higher tiers of gear that we haven’t seen yet.
Such a good video! Summed up my thoughts about D4 and the talk around it exactly.
In the full game it feels like when you would reach lvl 25 in the game you would already be progressing into an other zone. We only get to do fractured peaks over and over and over again. Which also makes the dungeons extremely repetitive. I hope that the dungeons in other zones will be different, or that the full game will have more variation in dungeon layouts.
I could understand blizzard if they would keep the most basic dungeons in the beta and get feedback on them, so that after the beta they could put all of the feedback in the dungeon system for the next couple of months when the games comes out. And make more variation. But it might be wishful thinking on my part. Fingers crossed…
I’d say people are just dissapointed with D4 because they expected or wished for like 9/10 Game but it turned out to be a solid 7/10. Still a great game just not an amazing game people hoped for.
Clickbait
As much as I like to think I’m a hardcore gamer, I’m just simply not. I am a father with 2 young children with a 50+ an hour job. Not to mention my wife who needs my attention, as well. I am forced to be a casual gamer, so I will probably play diablo as much as I can. lol
D4 is v good! I will start passing the reviews that come from the pros 😂 . No ofense but some of us have a damn job and other things going on
Just because something is Good, doesn’t make it Popular.
Just because something is Popular doesn’t make it Good.
How does the levelling work? If you party with a friend who would be 10 levels lower for example?
A good take FG. Although Diablo IV is little more than a dumbed-down version of PoE that doesn’t mean it won’t succeed. Blizzard has had massive success doing this. WoW was just a rip off Everquest and remedial version of EQ2. EQ2 was superior to WoW in every way, but EQ2 died and WoW lives on. Finding a winning formula, copying it, crapping it down to its lowest common denominator, and then marketing the bejesus out of it has been a goldmine for Blizzard. Why can’t they do it again?
The game is enjoyable for sure. I think Force is correct that Blizzard’s goal isn’t necessarily to cater to the hardcore crowd and instead to hit as many people as possible. IMO that is due to the price model they have set for the game. Which focuses on pulling in as much cash as fast as possible from any potential players and as such, they don’t really have to care as much about the endgame and longevity of the game. If people start to leave in a noticeable amount then they release an expansion, claim things will be different and then start the cycle over. Despite the improvements made to the game, I personally don’t think it’s worth a 70 dollar entry point. It’d be much more reasonable at 40, considering the extra money sources they plan to put into it at launch. At least then it’d be somewhat justifiable to the general public if they don’t invest in the end game at all. But whatever, I got into the beta by buying a KFC sandwich and so far, it’s been worth the time spent playing.
It’s Diablo, I brought it on pc, if it ends up on game pass I’ll play it on there for the achievement, if it ends on up switch, I’ll get it on there so I can play on the go. I’ll play until I’m sick of it
It’s immoral
Super excited about the d4 yt channel! Subscribed! Thanks!
all good and fun…BUT not for minimum 70 $. it has better graphics….and thats it. the skills are the same, the movement is the same…and i forsee that the story is again braindead. if this would cost 30$, ok. But 70+$ is a rip off .
Its not an pc arpg anymore. Its console mmo.
Because a lot of ppl don’t wanna buy a game knowing that game have no future. It’s for casuals with nothing to do after you beat the game
IDK, I still feel like Path of Exile is still a better game than this one. I feel like this game had to streamline and make all the skills more “vanilla” because of the mmo/monetization scheme that was put on this game. I think this game will be like Destiny 2. Not bad, but really “meh” after a while.
i mean its 2023…everybody hates everything…..there hasnt been a good/grats game in the last 10 years according to the internet ……..hahaha
I don’t get how it runs so bad… I play on a 3060ti on 1080p on low and it still doesn’t feel entirely smooth. Also the servers are a nightmare.
you willfully ignore and dont mention Diablo III when talking about arpg’s.. i liked diablo 1,2,3 and i have 0% intrest in playing diablo iv
I was thinking it was okay. Than I remembered they are asking for $70 for a mid ARPG experience. No thanks.
what’s with the clickbait title? I’ve heard lot’s of criticism but also a lot of praise and people enjoying the game.
What I don’t get is why anyone would play an ARPG when normal RPGs, if i had standards low enough to stare at the ground all day and enjoy meaningless and randomly made content id be very happy.
This some clickbait
yea i dont care what some no life guy who plays 16 hours a day thinks. Any game will be “bad”, have “flaws”, get “boring” and have no “end game” or things to do if you play everyday for that long.
Surprised? @10:00 D3 was one of the biggest bust and players played D2, PoE, and Lost Ark instead. THEN they wasted our time and dev time for DIABLO IMMORTAL. “April’s fool joke?” I’ve developed in UE5 and the timeline of what was allocated vs creativity shown in the beta is concerning. It looks like board members dictated the design and creativity.
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one easy way to help the “lvl up and feel weaker” design is having the monsters only go up to your new lvl once you reach half the exp to the next one.
I think a better comparison would be the response the MMO community had with EQ2. With WOW, Blizzard was putting their spin on a genre they were attempting to enter. But SOE was the big boy that really defined the genre up to that point, so there would’ve been expectation of EQ2 being the epitome of MMORPG. But what ended up happening was that a lot of the MMO community, particularly from EQ (where a lot of the WOW ‘hate’ came from as well) had similar opinions about EQ2 as they did for WOW but with bigger expectations than WOW because SOE made the genre in most people’s eye at that point. But EQ2 didn’t appeal as much to the mainstream audience either, so it floundered for most of its existence.
Similarly, Blizzard made the hack-n-slash ARPG genre in most people’s eyes. That’s why we call the competitors “Diablo clones” (WOW similarly called a “EQ Clone”). Diablo is supposed to be the epitome of the genre, so our expectations for it increase. Diablo 4 has much more to live up to. That wasn’t an issue for WOW. Whatever issues Diablo 4 has with the community now will more likely reach the masses than it did with WOW. The precedent is D3. It sounds like a lot of the same criticisms D3 had. D3 floundered for a time until Blizzard finally addressed the concerns. It wasn’t until later in D3s life, when it was improved based on the feedback, that it started gaining popularity. Don’t be surprised if the same happens with D4.
Fun=Buy…. So called “seasoned” players always feel the need to shit on the “casual” experience. Good thing they’ve got poe 2 coming so their heads don’t pop
I don’t think Diablo 4 is for me, and that’s okay. I hope people enjoy it.
Subbed to Drop Rate. Hell yeah!!
I got so bummed when you did the section about their MO. I enjoy all the more complicated and challenging games more.
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I am now waiting in line for about 1 hour to start playing. I would say there is interest!
The things I’ve seen are very positive and they back up my experience of playing. There are issues, for example everyone will be mailing sorc if they don’t do a major balance pass. I’ve had fun. Can’t wait to see the full game but i do agree with asmon about seasons and how horrible it’ll be to have to click on the same exploration things over and over again. I’ll reserve final judgment until I’ve played the full game but I’ve had fun so far.
Excellent point with the hardcore arpg fan base VS general gamer opinions but also I’m pretty sure even the most casual of casuals will hate back tracking through empty dungeons to find keys. Fix this one thing and it’s a good game
Force, clickbait is no bueno. I used to see you as “above” that crap. You lost a follower today. 😔
Have you played end game?
too hard to tell early on to judge anything, but the melee combat sucks ass at lvl 25
People talk about betas of games that are 2+ months from launch as if they are a full release. Almost everything anyone has complained about are tweakable things. Nobody seems to have fundamental issues with the game. I have faith it will improve before launch. Maybe I’m crazy.
I’m into D4 after playing the Early Access weekend. Just arrived home, watched this video, and I plan on playing Druid and Necro this weekend – I’ll likely have a blast. I’ve played a lot of ARPGs, haven’t played PoE to the end game, but I can certainly say this: PoE did not impress me while I was leveling up to 25. The comparisons being drawn right now, and the skewed opinions from tunnel vision, are rooted mostly in desiring more novelty and that not being delivered. The dopamine hit doesn’t seem to be immediate, but I’m willing to wait longer for that second marshmallow.
As a top 1% player in FFXI back in the day, I can 100% corroborate that when WoW launched it was considered a POS causal game.
Shoutout to Perfection/Envy/Censored linkshells on Carbuncle Server.
youtubers and twitterlosers do not = everyone
It is highly likely that only the starting area has level scaling because otherwise players can simply jump from one dungeon to another in the starting area never leaving it and getting to max level just like that which i do no think that it was intended.
Im enjoying the beta. Its just like d2, classic slashin monsters. Seems pretty good compared to the “so easy a baby could win diablo 3”
POE has had a decade of updates, 10 years of content updates then lets see it. Having someone play 3 characters up to 25 say its boring etc. dude you just played like 40 hours that’s $2 dollars an hour entertainment please, and its not even released. How many hours are required to be worth it. Also D2’s endgame was nothing….. yet we played how many hours….
Everyone hated Diablo 3 aswell from what I remember, the elite gamers do not speak for the majority. I’m sure the game is fine.
No worries, i got disconnected, in the que 😀
I just wish they would add gameplay elements that are not traditionally associated with ARPGs to spice things up a bit. Add more class fantasy and classic RPG elements.
They need to make it HARDER with MORE CREATIVITY!
I’m gonna be completely frank. As someone looking at things from the outside and as I never was a Diablo fan from the get-go, things are extremely yikes rn with Blizzard in general.
Yea the game they are throwing out might be good in every single aspect(which from what I’m hearing balance-wise it isn’t) but their reputation has been stained so much by OW2 for being a greedy company.
Sure the game might as well turn out amazing in its story and gameplay aspect but I’ve been talking with a few old Diablo fans and they have all been saying the same thing:
*”We don’t want to have anything to do with Blizzard anymore let alone its products”*
In the end everyone is annoyed at that store the game is gonna 100% have on release and who’s to blame; You can be grinding with a 80$ price game “F2P” for hours upon hours and a random guy comes up to you and 1 shots you with his money~
Liam!!!
‘What Starcraft was to Command & Conquer’ Excuse me, what?! Starcraft was eons ahead of C&C in terms of gameplay, story building, cinematics and most importantly the multiplayer. Starcraft started what we call now e-sports. It was a god-damned national game of Korea, please do not even try to compare it to C&C… Starcraft defined RTS games!
Great video man
Clickbait. Seen nothing but positivity towards game.
The sense of negativity on internet is just insane …it feels like people will only got hyped if some giant companies got bombed 😅
Dumb the game down…. Everyone can play…. Blizzard makes checkers. I want chess. But ptw and ill never try.
Probably the most grounded response to diablo 4. Love to see more. I hope the game does well and improves.
Thank you for this. I was so disappointed because my friends continuously $#&% on this game because you don’t need excel sheets to understand basic gameplay. Enough of this crap. Let the casual gamer enjoy it… the community is where its at, don’t cater to the outliers
I really like that they’ve done this early access beta so early compared to other AAA games that do a “beta” three days before release. This gives them actual time to receive feedback and improve upon it. I’ve enjoyed what I’ve played of D4 a lot. It’s not crazy revolutionary, but it’s very solid.
The criticism seems to be similar to Hogwarts… that it’s a beautiful game that really ticks the nostalgia boxes, but in the end is extremely shallow and narrow. That means it’ll sell well and then people will get bored and stop playing it, just like Hogwarts.
I’m liking the game so far. This week queue at max has been 10 mins. Though I hate how all my characters look. The customization needs to be more expansive. Otherwise, very little complaints on my side of things. Necro is OP though. Loving it.
Awe full fricing title jesus christ
I think the open world feels a little FarCry 3.
I think the level scaling is only for the first 25 levels so that you can explore the entire first zone as a tutorial level without accidentally walking into a dungeon or zone too difficult for you. If you noticed the other zones have level ranges and the strongholds are not level scaled. There are some enemies (like a level 30 enemy in the beta) that are not level scaled.
I don’t think leveling scaling will be a thing past the first zone. I think it’s there to serve as a safety during the first tutorial zone.
Path of Exile numbers are off, the game was never on Steam when it came out, I still use the GGG launcher to this day. 158k players on Steam is only a fraction of the playerbase.
I played pre-beta and thoroughly enjoyed it. Can’t wait for it to go live.
I just don’t think any of these opinions really matter until we have the full game and all the acts and end game.
:O Force D4 Channel very nice.
Whose here while waiting on the D4 queue?✋🏽
Brilliant take as usual.
Poe has a ratio of 1.5 to 1 betwen Steam users and their stand alone client, so the number would be like 270k, not 160k.
Click bait…
Sadly, for me, the moment Blizzard confirmed that Diablo 4 was going to be an *”always-online open world light MMORPG”* game, they lost me instantly at that point, so I have 0% interest in buying/playing this game to be totally honest.
it looks neat, but not that hyped. Blizzard has become a different Company then what it was. Hots was a total new tackle on moba, it was completely different in maps and heroes etc, loved it.
Maybe i buy it on a Sale. Dont know if its fun after 10-20hours, story seems pretty uninteresting. Its like i dont buy games from ubisoft anymore at all, they became so terrible.
But love a lots of smaller games now and here and there something awesome drops, just found out how awesome ff7 remake is, love the combination of hack and slay with stratetig decision on the go and an awesome story on top…now thats a cherry for me.
Do you guys not have phones ???
Click baiting alarmist
i have one word…………BETA
The good thing is that things like dungeon layouts is probably easily changed.
It’ll be another Diablo III when it comes to success. That said, I couldn’t care less about it. For me Diablo franchise died after the original D2.
What StarCraft was to command and conquer… WTF?? 😂 You need to watch some ASL or GSL. Go tell Bisu or Flash that StarCraft is a dumbed down version of command and conquer.
everyone hates Diablo IV because Blizzard is grasping at cash straws… they sold off World of Warcraft after the WoW-Gate Sex Scandal and now they are looking to cash in on the rest of their intellectual properties. that is why the mobile game is the most predatory cash shop app to date. that is why the base price of D4 is $70. they lost a huge revenue stream when they sold off WoW and they are scrambling to replace it. I have written off Blizzard and anything they do. it really makes me sad, I’ve been a huge Blizzard fan for years going all the way back to the first warcraft. but I will no longer support these guys, I’m done.
I hope i can really have a go at the current beta (it’s impossible to play right now cause of connection issues) I did 5 lv and the game is ok so far although if i compare it to grim dawn i found that the fighting (casting of spells etc..) is less satisfying) I must say i’m somewhat disapointed maybe because i expected more…I’ll probably change my mind when i finally get to play but so far..not so good^^
Hey Force. Thanks for the discussion. I am a person who has played and have thousands of hours across a great number of ARPGs and Dungeon Hackers (including Turn based) since the days of the C64/Apple computers, including the console-specific ones. However, my huge amount of hours into never ended up turning into the level of Hardcore players often talked about here. I also don’t have the same level of care for certain *in the weeds* systems as others, especially when it comes to the Meta.
For me, no matter how long I spend my years playing these games, I have a different perspective. To use the WoW Example. While I didn’t start playing MMOs with Ultima Online, I did with the ones that followed, Everquest, Asherons Call 1 & 2, etc. When WoW came out, while there might have been all sorts of discourse to people who really count major numbers, and optimal stuff, for whatever endgame it had; here’s where I differed hard from them:
What made me love WoW was something many of them, with issues, didn’t talk about. As I played MMOs, my biggest pet peeves were 1. Randoms that often didn’t really play along. (which forced issue number 2) 2. After getting a good group of players to play, their schedule and my schedule often caused issues with progression as these games tend to require you to group to progress in short order. So if I wasn’t lucky to always match my “friends” playing time, this often meant that I couldn’t just ever set aside 30 minutes to play the game, no, I always needed and hour or more. I’d spend so much time waiting to form a good group and then quest, and sometimes, when my patience ran low (or time itself) I’d rush into whatever available group which ended up not being enough to pass such challenge. But in WoW, you could progress solo. If my available time was currently not compatible, I could always get on during my time and still progress decently enough and keep up.
That one aspect of having the most viable solo experience, for WoW, was a huge win. The difference in what you could get done in any random 15 minutes in Wow, vs. 15 minutes in the competition, was astronomical to me.
Now, when it comes to ARPGs, a lot of really high level players get into the weeds with it, they not only find the most perfect Meta, they also learn how to boil down and minimize the important statistics to get there. It totally changes how you look at the game, and that’s not where I had any interest in going. For me, my approach is that if I find or get gear to support a play style of said class, that I really like playing, I’m going there until I find another play style that suits me. So my initial goal is how do I make *that playstyle* better or more powerful within reason of RNG. The optimal player will go to the most powerful play style and min/max that. Whether I’m playing Diablo, or Monster Hunter, going for the *fun* build and making the most of that, is generally my play style. Possibly because, a lot of time, the most optimal play style is often nowhere near as fun as the play style I like. Sure, some games, the power delta between fun and META class/build is larger, but I guess that’s where I tend to stop with the endgame. Maybe try a different class, find fun builds for them and make the most of it. Then perhaps come back when I miss that previous character or class/build.
10,000 more hours will not change that for me. However, stuff I pay attention to more, is stuff like UI, interface, server performance, controls, feel and impact, etc. Those tend to hit a more basic enjoyment of the game, crossing way more into areas of gameplay I care about. One of the reasons I stuck with Diablo 3 ROS, so long and still go back from time to time. The feel of the combat, and the feel of playing various builds in it, were really good to me.
I bet they all play it come June. 😂
So if everybody hates Diablo 4, who the hell are the thousands upon thousands of players on right now causing the ques to be backed up to wait a half hour to get back in the game. It is impossible to play more than 45 minutes or so without getting booted out from the overload of wave after wave of players enjoying themselves. Besides are you completely blind and unaware that 90% or more of YouTube gaming content creators have been posting updated videos and news regarding Diablo 4 non-stop and around the clock? There are tons and tons of videos online devoted to min maxing their characters, videos on each of the 5 classes and how to best level them, tips and tricks, you name it content creators are busy making videos about how to best improve the gaming experience because there are that many excited and happy gamers playing Diablo 4. Your an idiot, spewing negativity and misinformation in the hopes your rating and algorithm increases. WHEN Diablo 4 launches to massive acclaim and success, and considered the best Diablo game to date your going to look like a dick and the boy who cried wolf.
You are confusing quality with popularity.
When there are more kids in a certain activity, the kid-specific stuff will sell better. That doesn’t mean it’s better than everything else, which is what you seem ton be implying here.
The same people who hated WoW back then still hate it, like myself. But we were the vocal minority, having grown up with non-baby games. Obviously, there used to be a lot more child gamers in the world, with adults having slowly caught up, but most of these learned to love the kid’s game WoW during their own childhood.
Many curse the casual cartoon game avalanche caused by WoW, but a lot more welcomed it, so your argument of popularity is not one of quality, it’s a matter of age-based taste.
I like the beta’s
Yeah nobody said this.
open world feels like ubisoft made this garbage
EverQuest > WoW and it’s not even close. I know 95% of people will disagree with me, and that’s 100% fine. I was never a target player for Blizzard. Just like PoE > D4, is the same scenario, and that’s fine!
Point being, is you’ve kinda nailed it with your assessment in this video. Most players won’t give a crap about many of the issues. However, this being a live service, they won’t be making much money if they go the D3 route. They need to listen to the people you mentioned in the video, or this is going to be a very short-lived thing.
Still, I think the elephant in the room, that for some reason no one is talking about is actually Activision, and not D4’s game play issues… Microsoft isn’t going to save the day anytime soon folks. I’d be very leery of investing any time or money into a Blizzard game these days.
Why do so many people hate this company with a passion??
Such a mystery… 🤔
I don’t think that’s the single reason, but I think people are so fed up with these criminals and game devs in general who deliver something nice at first and then turn around and take you from behind, again and again and again, that the bar is set WAY higher than it otherwise would be.
In other words: Is it good for what it is right now? Yes.
Is it good for selling us the rest blind, costing $70+, most likely being full of extortionist additional costs, possibly having pay2win and being made by a company that used to celebrate sexual assault, mental abuse and other criminals? No…
Play it. If you don’t like it, then don’t. Don’t corrupt your gameplay experience with haters’ opinions. Everyone is expecting some game of the century release from every company these days.
I’m new to these types of games. Is
Wolcen worth buying?
I remember the hype ppl was having on D3 and then the disappointment.
This will be exactly the same.
And add to that, Blizztard is no longer Blizzard.
Dont waste your money.
100% agree with you Force.
Us old school pvpers basically just had to quit MMO’s lol wow clones took over.
It’s 3/10 .. not expected such … wasted money lol
You can say anything about this game but the fact it is absolutely not worth 70€.
This game has been in development for over 5 years. Of course we should expect more then this. All the diablo 3 zoomers are happy because they don’t know what a good ARPG really is.
This is diablo 3 reforged…
I miss having no life or any adulting to do where I could actually play WoW with any type of progression
PoE 2 when released will demolish D4. D4 is very basic, even in the end game. The crafting is mid, the skills/classes are shallow, and the dungeons are LOL bad.
well did try a bit the necromancer and soo far for a necro pet i feel it’s lackluster. the diversity of pet we had in d3 feel better than what we have soo far, and i guess because of the fact that we are always with many people they have limit the number of pet, but somehow it did kill the fun to have an army. maybe with more level it change… but soo far it feel weird.
asmon needs to watch this
It is a really good game it’s dark as hell haha
Steam peak playerbase for PoE only tells half the story, a large majority of players use the standalone client, for many years the steam client occasionally had issues with patching so many migrated to standalone.
I liked it last weekend once I played sorc, the other 2 classes are just boring to play. Now this weekend, with the druid and necro out, it’s still only one solid class choice for me. And that’s… really bad. But the worst part about D4 is knowing that Blizzard will never do crazy new things with seasons like what GGG does for PoE. They’d never risk making content that breaks the monotony as they’d alienate too much of their core audience, which let’s be honest, are casual gamers in their 30s. All this weekend did is push me towards trying out Last Epoch…
The biggest insult to all of this is that they slap a 70€ price tag on it. This game is so far, but not amazing or even great. And I’m confident that it’ll stay that way for the full release too. I’m not a Blizzard or Diablo hater, I wish they’d go all-out and make something amazing, but they just play it safe for a quick buck it seems.
There were no content creators in 2004. You are comparing content creators to the 2004 hardcore pvp loot mmo scene. Was d3 a success? Blizzard probably thinks so, a significant population of blizzards fanbase and hardcore arpg fans probably don’t.
Blizz is trying to make arpgs more social group friendly. Some aspects they got right, others they got wrong. I think that was the main message of most content creators. I personally am optimistic but concerned and think endgame will make or break it.
Did you watch the full kripp video? He pointed out how very complex d4 is.
click bait
This game is fine, I’m going to enjoy it when it releases.
My queue time was ~38 min. Got in. Two hours in and I want to go outside and touch grass. I have been a fan of this franchise for literal decades, always hyped for the next story. This one…Two hours in and…I just don’t care. Gameplay is pretty much the same as the previous iterations, graphics are a little better…but I tend to ignore those things. It’s the story that every other iteration(not counting that mobile travesty) grabbed me and held me hostage till after that final boss. I’m known for not replaying games after I’ve finished the story, but DI, DII and DIII I have had multiple replays…
DIV…Two hours and I was already bored.
Ok so instead let’s go back to rifts over and over and over with random assets that make no sense tied together.
Theres to many ppl with to much time and that dont appreciate solid games without overwhelming new innovations and ideas, also ppl get too hyped these days and are too easily getting disappointed and always have the need to share the bad sides of games but yea, you know how it is
I love PoE but it is extremely difficult to fully grasp. If I could spend hours everyday non-stop playing, PoE would be perfect! However, since I’m old, have a wife, kids, and a job…D4 might be a great casual game for me to really enjoy. I understand those who have been waiting YEARS for a new Diablo want to relive the greatness and depth of D2. I’m hoping Blizzard strikes a nice balance where everyone can enjoy it.
It’s fine if the game launches with some issues. They can always patch it and make it great with time, like they did with D3. I’m personally loving the current state of the game, and having a lot of fun with my friends. It could be better, but it’s already great.
“Asmongold is a real one”
😂
I know I felt that way about the leveling also I’m like damn my barb is not putting in work and he is level 21 on the and as soon as I level up I started to notice the monster that or some what weak like regular skeleton and Its take. Me forever to kill them because not they the same damn level as me or one level higher they gotta fix that but other then that I’m havein fun in I’ve been a fan since the first one to see it grow in everyway is dope and exciting to me also blizzard please put a offline button and online button for. The old school players who just wanna run it alone other then that I hope to see y’all in the dungeons with my barb deebo “WHO ELSE WANT SOME OF DEEBO!!”😂
lol clickbait
There’s probably bound to be a mixed review if only because development has been traded off through several groups of people kind of like the baton in a relay race. Same lane different runner. They may all share the name Diablo but seem to be at least three different titles because of directors and designers
Trippin with that headline nice click bait tho
The game is just broken, it’s not even close to a Beta….Blizzard is just taking advantage of it’s player base rather than paying competent employees to work out the bugs.
the level scaling sounds dreadful
Great video, as always. I’ve lost a lot of respect for these content creators who all sound like they’re just playing to negativity bias for clicks. The lack of any objectivity or reason just makes it all seem really desperate. Never mind the fact that shitting on Blizzard is currently at peak popularity. But you’ll notice, it’s mostly streamers/YT creators/fanboys who come from PoE, D2, LE, or Grim Dawn providing most of the negative commentary. “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” D4 is coming for their kool-aid.
Why is he shilling for d4 so much. End of the video, im going to make a channel for d4 only. Ah now i see why he shills so much : )
Theres been more clickbaity titles lately from this channel than bad D4 reviews tbh =)
The claim that Path of Exile has a very small playerbase just by basing it on the Steam version’s player count is completely disingenuous. It should be known that most of the playerbase play on the clients provided by GGG (and this is not even counting PoE’s China servers), which will of course does not contribute to the player count on Steam. With all that said, I find it odd why this would be a point of contention in the first place when it is unclear right now how well Diablo 4 will perform despite the supposed observation that Blizzard is aiming for a player count way beyond PoE. It’s even more ironic that Overwatch 2 also only has roughly 150k concurrent players as well which this video apparently claims is very sub-par numbers for a Blizzard game.
It seems all of the legitimate criticism for Diablo 4 so far is just being handwaved away solely on the notion that Diablo 4 ‘is not aiming to be your typical ARPG. It’s aiming to be more!’
The beta is an old build of the game, and this is a test not an early access to the final game, yeah it might be the same but people need to chill out and stop comparing this game to other diablos its something different and really the only people complaining are streamers, must be mad they can’t just roll through the content for views
Why even read/watch reviews if you say that you should play it before deciding if its good or not? Why even watch your videos then?
This seems like a lot of hand waving the stuff you dont like about a game you want to like.
Literally. No one hates Diablo 4 lol. Clickbait much.
Great game so far, just started the open beta and enjoying it as a casual gamer dad, dont listen to all the ‘influencers’ with very different expectations 🙂
Finally ppl with brains. Diablo 4 is boring. With necro first quest boss 4 skeletons ez kills it. On vet. I give diablo 4 4/10. And i grinded d2 d3. Its far away from a tripple A game.
Clickbait
The game is by far the best Diablo I have played and I have played them all.
it’s better than 3
I´m going 1000+ hours on this game, looks good can´t really judge the game from playing about 5% of it :’D hope they can fix the server issue though.
Your opinion is biased since you have plans with a friend of starting a whole other channel based on the game….
Are you insane? It has been MASSIVELY POPULAR. like a fucking homerun for blizzard, even with the monetization
the game feels soulless. it’s a game and you can play it but like… why? it feels no different than any other arpg i’ve played and everything they implement from other games feels worse than if I just played those games. Like I want to play wow classic or d2 whenever I play this game. I may just be jaded but I really just feel like i’m going through the motions already while playing. I’m on my 4th character and when I complete the story… i don’t want to do anything else and besides sigils, the events, strongholds, dungeons are basically endgame. I didn’t want this game to be bad. I wanted it to either put poe out of business or make them fix their game… but now I want blizz to go out of business lol
“As of level 25” says it all
Clickbait
That being said, I feel zero hype for this game. I’m certainly not going to buy it. Nothing like the D3 hype
Everybody hates D4, but everybody loves Force
The problem is that too many people are comparing to other games
Heres the thing, why would I pay 74 USD for this when I can play an arguably better, more fleshed out game for free right now. People keep saying Blizzard will just have to update the game, and flesh it out, but its 70 bucks, I shouldn’t have to wait. I shouldn’t have ANY complains. Game should be done, or pretty damn close too it. We will have to see at max level how the game is. But as of right now I’m not sold.
No one hated WoW. I remember playing it and especially in the beginning it was a highly social experience. so everyone was hyped exploring dungeons together or doing stuff in the world. pvp did gave anything but people loved killing each other. everyone was just super into the wow fantasy. especially after the phenomenal wc3 people just wanted to dive into such a fantasy world. sure things weren’t perfect. sometimes unplayable. sure people complained. but they always do.
Wow what the fuck, hearing that all enemies scale to your level makes me not even want to play this at all
It’s ok, Its not great, I’m probably gonna wait for the “PoE2” update. These games prices keep going up and the games are always lack luster. Gamers let it happen so it is what it is.
so you completely made up this title? so far no one hated on diablo 4, for sure not those people you mentioned in your video
I played the closed alpha for about 15 hours and wasn’t a fan.
I agree with most of what you said; however, I do think D4 is in a little different situation. Blizzard does water down games but they also are one of the huge players in the ARPG genre. They have D2 was on another level of complexity. In that sense, I think the criticism is warranted.
D4 is more of a “trigger those dopamine receptors with shinies every 10 minutes” kind of game imo. Since difficulty is a thing of the past, any sort of challenge is just out the window. Gear is so incrementally scaling that nothing feels like a big upgrade, so all you do is just get ever so slightly stronger vs a world you can set to be as easy or moderately difficult as you want.
Maybe if they lowered leggo rates substantially, had fixed difficulties and no level scaling then it MIGHT be something you want to play for the challenge and experience instead of a glorified slot machine with tightly controlled mechanics so that you won’t encounter a challenge hard enough to push you.
Fucking hell I’m tired of modern game design. “We’re so knee deep in moneygrabbing that our gameplay suffers and the playerbase will probably leave if the game is challenging because we’ve fried their dopamine receptors over the years to the point where nothing short of instant gratification every 10 minutes will make them leave for the next thing”
the level-scaling has got to go
Yeah I don’t see any flying enemy when they died like diablo 3 the physic that make your character look strong and fun
I agree with most of the criticisms. I actually felt some of it before I saw the reviews. But at the end of the day (for me at least) Diablo is all about the end game. And yea you can kind of guess how it will be already but I will reserve my full judgement until full end game reviews come out.
god its nice to not be drowned in negativity all the time. THANK YOU Force
It’s not totally weird to the see this kind of weird overly positive response. The game at surface level seems incredible, and yeah most people can’t/don’t get past surface level analysis. Anyway yeah, Diablo 4 most likely isn’t what the most dedicated/appreciative fans want. The game is catering to the most generic of players with a dash smoke and mirrors presentation for the hardcore fans. Anyway, diablo can do some changes to be a decent or even good game but it’s NOT going to be amazing.
Blizzard is TRASH
My only problem with the Early Access Beta (besides not being able to play Necromancer and Druid) was the scaling; everything felt much harder as you leveled up.
Imagine what gaming would be like if everyone accepted what was churned out without any constructive criticism or feedback. It pays to be more open-minded i think.
not having WASD makes this game slow and boring. I am new to the franchise and yes, it is slow because of that
D4 is ass, blizzard is an ass company. Most of you complain but still fucking buy and play their games so they continue to do this. “What you guys don’t have phones?” Blizzard is a joke now
In a couple of years time a lot will have happened on the development side
Diablo 4 is basically getting swarmed by PoE hatewatchers, nostalgic D1 and D2 Andies and people that are pissed off by Blizzard for being a shitty company. I honestly had fun in D4‘s beta. Will D4 have enough content at launch to last until it gets a new season? Who the fuck knows, people that only got their hands on the beta certainly don’t! I’m still going to play it 😂
This guy(force gaming) always looks like he smell a fart or taking a big dump on thumbnails. Is always something controversial or hate with him, when it comes to diablo games. I selected option not recommended channel.
Diablo IV. More Diablo than Diablo – but not too much more Diablo than uhh… Diablo.
Blizzard is a terrible company to support
Only thing bugging me is the constant rubber banding. Just doing my head in. Also , the snow. It’s still freezing here where I am, can we get some sun 😊
The last great mmo was Stars Wars Galxies. WOW was so watered down. Until you have grinded out a pre pub 9 Jedi you all will forever be a carebear.
I wonder if the itemization is tied to a party bonus. It’s a tactic I’ve seen free-to-play games use, where they give you better items if you’re playing as a party rather than solo. Their little scheme of getting fans to rope in more friends to get the game. What would suck is if they don’t give you better items after roping in your friends, and just expect y’all to diffuse the difficulty amongst yourselves.
So much of this video speaks to me. I watched all of Krip’s video. I think the part with power leveling and how a lower level character could kill an enemy faster made sense. Seemed valid. But most of his things or things other hardcore ARPG fans complain about I just don’t care. I’ll get D4, and so long as it’s pretty, feels good I’m happy. I’ll beat the game but then put it down and come back to new seasons every now & then. I don’t need nor want it to be like POE where I have to study and/or play 100+ hours minimum before I can claim to understand the game. Let alone someday get to several thousands of hours in a game. I’m not interested in a game like that. Too many other good games out there for me to want to dedicate my next several years to just 1 game.
So now you’re saying they were always trying to make a game for as many people as possible, while before you were hoping they’d follow what Lost Ark does with end game group dungeon difficulty, which results in a tiny niche community of toxic asshats.
Unsubscribed because of your clickbait bullshit. People don’t hate the game.
WoW is obviously the best MMO that’s ever been created since day 1
I didn’t even know Path of Exile existed until this week! I thought Hades was as close as I was going to get between Diablo 3 and 4 (Diablo 2 Resurrected didn’t interest me).
He’s just making shit up to be sensational for the views. Nobody hates it. Everyone’s rating it pretty high. Stop making up shit.
Have you actually tested the game or are you just parroting other reviewers?
You ask your phone.
blizzard can’t even get logging in right…haha
At first glance the game is gorgeous and the dark feel is kinda there. There are problems with the power level which is just as bad as Diablo III and u can just about literally just jog/run through the main quest while gaining loads of xp for opening a door!! Diablo IV has low light parts but its not from the environment (ex. dark dungeons with no torches) in the demo but are items tied to the main quest. The game levels look nice but get boring after doing them once so building new classes can feel like a drag. The PVE seems under cooked imo.
Good luck with having your level crossing over to the real game. Ask your phone mine sese no
Sow you have to start all over.
I like how people just read the video title and comment😂
Click bait trash title
Again what makes you think it’s not the game. It is you think it’s not 🤣🤥😅😂😁😄😅😉😆🤔 Good luck.
Thank you so very much for placing non-adsense at front/back/both of video rather than interrupting, so I can watch and Like <3
Agreed that D4 formula is expected, though great fun, as well admitting to romanticized preferences of EQ difficulty~
12 mins in to video, reliaze this video should be renamed,
IM A BLIZZARD FAN BOY, so what!
I absolutely love the game I feel they nailed D2 feel with 2023 graphics. I Preordered after 1 hour of the open beta today. Game plays smoooth
Why is everyone treating this lvl 25 BETA as the complete game. Hearing comments like “the itemization is meh” n stuff makes me think ppl can’t look past the fact that this is a LIMITED beta.
Clickbait and Copium. I’m not spending 70 bucks on this shit.
Considering I can’t play it and it’s not on steam why that’s still a thing don’t ask me.
Clickbait , blocked
“WoW was an easy, dumbed down, version of games that already existed”.
It was totally this, and that’s okay. That has been Blizzards MO for pretty much ever. Take something that people like, and figure out how to make it palatable for the masses.
I am unsure. When I seen WoW the first time running, I liked it immediately. Felt like a Warcraft MMO version of Diablo 2.
Diablo 4 however, feels super slow, the camera is way to close to the character for me, I can hardly see what is going on around me. The “Talent” system is, on first look… odd, nonsensical. Why do I need to only spend 3 points to get to the second knot point, when I could dump 7. Same with the second knot point, you can spend more, but you already unlock the next one.
Also if I want to play a MMO… Diablo 4 is not the first thing that comes to mind. But it is ok, it might not be for me.
Its not grabbing me. Even though the beta is on now I played for another hour and went back to valheim.
Tried again to play it and ended up just refunded it. Boring boring boring
Man the amount of copium in this video is just tragic.
I don’t, I love it. Quit with the click bait headlines
Everyone is jaded and waaay extra cautious because of Immortal. This is Blizzard’s last chance to keep Diablo alive
who is everyone??????????? the game is amazing???
They should have made it like remnant but with diablo stuff
Come on man don’t fall to this kind of coverage. Anyone who would give this game a 4/10 is a literal brainless human being. I think if there’s not enough content for you you’re probably a loser and have MUCH bigger problems.
I just played about 1h its not bad but it legit feels like diablo immortal with better graphics and not ptw.
i cant stand the flashbacks. sooo cringe
that power scaling feels similar to PoE recently…or im just not great at improving gear. but since we don’t know d4 in depth yet it could be the case here now
I think your WoW comparison was way off on the point of people hating the game pre-release. Those of us who played EQ and such couldn’t have been happier with the game in “early rrelease”. But I love your spin.
I’m sure once I end up playing I’ll enjoy the game. That said, I’m really enjoying The Last Epoch right now so I may just wait a bit and buy it after release sometime but no rush
Blizzard as a company has experienced “brain drain”. They won’t recover, they chased away all the talent. I played it all day but the thought of the upcoming predatory monetization took something away. I hope I am wrong but…
Oh another unpolished game put out by blizzard with a $70-100 pricetag? Never saw that coming… good luck with those queue times boys.
Clickbait
the fact that he doesnt even know what player peak means and his comparisons to wow just disqualifies this dude in any shape or form.
Great video. Not enough people understand the business aspect of gaming. While we like a hardcore experience with playability, if it’s not mass appeal, it’s pay to win.
It feels worse than D3. Like, everything, almost. Not sure how to feel.
no shi.t game looks like cheap mobile game grafics suck looks like low budget pay2win mobile trash
I just wish they would have innovated on the genre instead of being really safe with the design.
I’m tired of seeing streamers giving their reviews on games. I just want to see the cool builds they’ve made. At the end of the day the only opinion you should concern yourself with is your own and if you want to take the time to play the game/use your hard earned dollars.
The main reason I´m withholding my opinion of it and waiting to even try it because I want to see if they roll out the ridiculous microtransactions at some point when they have already got people hooked on it.
Imagine HALO 1 coming out now, would it still be a masterpiece, and would anybody play it?
There is no winning with any online game now a days literally not a single one without complaints. I’m starting to wonder… is the problem between the keyboard and chair…
I have been mostly avoiding content creator opinions (ok, clearly except for this channel) on D4 until I could try it this weekend. The primary things I am looking for in a beta like this:
1. Crisp, fun combat loop
2. Plays and runs well
3. Rewards the player for progressing/exploring
So far I’d say the game mostly accomplishes this. I do have some concerns about the limited skill tree options but this can be improved. Analysis on act 1 dungeons is, essentially, complete speculation on what the rest of the game will be like. A lot of that content just feeds on negativity and clicks from malcontent gamers, of which there is quite a large/vocal population.
I loved it. A little to east, like extreamly to easy but the game is solid. These elitist are just that elitist. They want it to play like a 20 year old game. Nah just make your own decision.
clearly a shill. spread those cheeks for blizz if ya want but this games criticisms do matter if you want a decent game, think blizz fans are the dumbest out there, will buy anything lol.
Pretty sure your video title is for click bate only
everyone hated wow in the beginning? wat that is new to me and I’ve been playing since beta myself
Imagine people reviewing a game that let you play the beta which is only a pice of what the game will actually be Lol nothing anyone said is valid until the actual game releases 100 percent but from the 38 hrs I have in no major complaints here.
No offline single player = Not a Diablo game
i liked D4…it was 1-25 lvl beta…D3 early lvls are slow as fuck too.
remember when POE took 4-5 mins to load?
its come a long way
I honestly don’t think it’s anywhere near old blizzard quality. It should be put back in the oven for another year.
Asmongold comes off as a man baby alot. I cant stand watching him
Make diablo an open world mmo like wow.
because its a Diablo 3 Remake… no runes no charm
How are you gonna make a fat Druid?? Makes zero sense… yea the guy who lives off the land and runs around all day fighting demons looks like he spends all day playing this game and downs skittles and Mountain Dew 😂. Gj blizzard
I really don’t care about the try-hards or elitist jerks since they are always the minority.
This guy is a click bait loser
I don’t know if it’s good or not, but it’s blizzard so I won’t be playing it. I can’t justify giving them any more of my time or money
Terrible video title – this isn’t it Force
I wonder what is the percentage of PoE players that use the Steam client… It was known as a noob trap in the past because of the patching that was a lot more annoying on Steam. I understand that this is the best data you have access to, but you presented it as if it was 100% of the player base, which is not the case.
I don’t get the issue with level scaling if you want easy mode play on tier-one difficulty. Higher difficulties should be harder.
I’m not a hardcore player but I’m definitely a veteran in arpg games. I have over a 1k hours in poe, countless hours in d2, nearly 1k hours in d3, couple of thousands of hours in Titan Quest, over a hundred hours in Wolcen and I have to admit I tried playing Last Epoch and I refunded it after 40 min, so far D4 and it’s graphical fidelity and attention to detail is superb. I do agree with some of critiques but I really don’t care about most of them. I’m really looking forward to play D4 and since I played beta last week I can’t enjoy any other arpgs.
I don’t want to watch a nearly 20 minute video just to determine if this video is clickbait or not, but in case it’s supposed to be serious let me just say this: you’re wrong.
The VAST majority of the feedback for Diablo 4 has been positive. MOST people love the D4 beta. Some people that mostly only love D2 and hate anything even remotely similar to D3 don’t like D4, but to say “everybody hates D4” is just blatantly false.
That’s not true. This is clickbait.
Who hates it? This some dumb ass click bait shit…
Clickbaity gonna clickbait
Good points but did seem to get stuck in a loop of ‘I don’t think most people will care’ ‘but we should still consider the criticisms of veterans valid’. My response would be to agree with your point that they can lean little more into the directions veterans want because it is better to aim high and then fail a little than to just aim low. Why? Because the big reason a lot of people have such low expectations and or are the lowest common denominator type thinkers themselves is because they’re lulled into that sense of complacency when in reality they could be stronger, smarter, more refined or even creative in what they do and how they do it and so also what they like. But, that isn’t as easy for institutions or businesses to do and so that’s why we have things being dumbed down all the time. And, it might not matter much for a video game but it does matter overall for our communities and society overall.
Lol wtf??? I’m trying to find these bad reviews…..few and far between
Ive enjoyed it for the most part the only things that are annoying are the crashes and what not
Comparing Poe concurrent players vs d4 launch cmon now at least compare what d3 concurrent was or wait until Poe 2 launch
Reviews at this stage are kind of pointless. If someone asked me to review Diablo 3 but i was only allowed to play through Act 1 I would say that Diablo 3 sucks.
Liam or Weagal from YourOverwatch back in the heyday of OW content? Man, I watched every video from them, here with Force, and Stylosa back in those first 2 yrs or so of Overwatch.
Definitely excited to see you two collab on the new channel! I’ve never really been into ARPGs but I downloaded the beta for D4 to give it a try this weekend.
Thanks for all of the great videos over the years, Force!
People cannot complain about this game not bring new things given how much complaining there has been ever since D2. The whole point of this game is to give nostalgia feels for D2 as an apology for immortal
2023: Still my favorite Diablo: Part 3! Still playing S28 and I bought Last Epoch instead of that too bloody, violent, dark and depressing D4.
Given the fact that the “Hardcode players” are still playing D2 to this day means that there is a way to make a game that is very successful and still caters to the hardcore players
+1 for the new channel, great stuff mate.
Nah dude, i love it.
Who? I haven’t seen anyone but one YouTuber say the game was bad.
Nice reasoned take Dennis, thanks for lending your thoughts!
I have extreme fun with d4, my friend has great fun with the game. I play probably play it for a month or so after release and move to a another game, like every other game that i played (except wow), and that will be 99% of people. Whats most important is how the game is for YOU, and not to others.
To the question : Should you buy Diablo IV ?
The answer is : If you’re a casual gamer / don’t know much about the genre (diablo 3 ain’t much), YES.
If you are an arpg veteran that would like to find the new game in which he can spend thousands of hours theory crafting and such … NO.
And there is a middle ground, vets that like casual experiences from time to time, or just people that would like to play a new blizz game with their friends.
Unfortunately, i’m all about the second category.
Blizzard bad.
Shows how much appreciate and value Kripparrian if you can’t even pronounce his name hahah
Kripps review left me with great hopes. I thought that the game was looking like bum, because of the engine it must be using.
In the end the game ends up being spaghetti mess on your screen and the points that might pop up from there are lights, and “reflections” and when I looked at the game, because of those points, I thought it looks bit too much like D3.
Then the UI, and some colors in use even anchor in the view that the look of the game just might be so, because they are reusing tools that were used to make D3, tools like game engine, and what ever.
I wish you could spin around your camera, and if the game felt like you needed to snap back to the key position it could just do that like so.
Anyone else think the games FOV seems a bit ” Zoomed In ” ?
Mob density seems to be lacking a bit as well.
I find a large majority of people are complaining about the small quality of life changes (which I agree with and see no problem with) THEN there are some ridiculous complaints experienced in a (BETA) not a finished game. to those complaints I don’t really care
Diablo currently is about a 5.5 game at best I would LOVE for it to be a 10 but it doesn’t need to be I would be happy with anything from 7 – 9.5 honestly. little changes I would like to see are as follows
1.) Map overlay
2.) Choice in movement “point and click” and WASD (I prefer WASD, personally think point and click is outdated)
3.) An ult-specific key / having to lose one ability to put your ult in your skill bar bad feels BAD IMO
4.) Consistency in item stat layout on gear stats are never in the same order makes it difficult to quickly compare = wasted time
5.) resistance values listed on the character/ inventory window
6.) tab in inventory for gems (everything els is already slipt in inventory why not gems, gems mid to late game take a lot of space in default inventory)
as a newer player to diablo i actually hope blizzard makes it a more hardcore game. i don’t want a ordinary aprg that looks cool, i wanna play diablo. i enjoy learning the deeper mechanics and the more nuanced stuff about games, nuance is what games identity, it’s what makes games memorable.
WoW is still the biggest shit that have destroyed the whole gaming industry!!!!
Only the first 25 levels within Act I. We won’t really know power creep til we get to act 2 and beyond. I respect the opinions but I feel it’s too soon to be too critical. But for sure, keep posting…
So far in Beta, I’ve spent more time in que than playing the game. I just turned my PC off after the 4th 316719 error. 5 – 10 minutes of gameplay isn’t worth the 45 minute wait.
I plan on putting in 200-300 hours into this game. At this point it is more than fun enough to accomplish this. Thank you for a normal take on this.
the game is just bang average
It has big problems but in no way do I hate it.
I have issues with POE but its beyond better than diablo will ever be
I do think it’s interesting most of the people saying they really enjoy it etc were people who were allowed to play the game ahead of time, surely not a coincidence.
With that said, there have been so many games I have played which are given negative reviews (ex. Days Gone) which I enjoyed very much. So, hopefully everyone knows by now not to listen to reviews.
Quin left out lol
In the queue as we speak. Time to play Druid
Can anyone give me the definition of a yellow journalist?
Because nobody cares. Diablo is an old franchise. ARPG games and mmorpg games arent wanted by the younger community. Adults that used to love it are busy busting our asses to become something. As much as we love that genre of games, the younger community doesn’t. So the target audience is adults ages 23-50. And unless you have no life or are a streamer, you won’t be on or you won’t be on much. 10 years ago, honestly even 5 years ago I would be hyped on this release. Now I’d prefer to do 100 other things and am not going to sit on an ARPG, broke and grinding 8+ hours a day lmao. Pass.
I wanted Diablo, not lost ark
I can tell you most if any of those critique’s dont matter to me
Nothing worse than power scaling. yikes – good vid ty
Holy crap, my first impressions are absolutely horrible… the game’s preformance jsut sucks! And I have a decent rig. i7-9700k, 32 Gig ram. 3070 Ti and M2 SSD.. And holy crap, the game lags like shit! Especially when changing zones.. Fuck this game! Not pre-ordering for sure…
Sorry my friend, you are incorrect: the brilliance of Blizzard in the past was always the fact that can create something which easily loveable for the masses but also hard to master and caters to the hardcore in a well-thought-out way and magical – Blizzard has “streamlined” it all and all is left is a dumbed-down/watered version of its past.
I’m not sure if D4 will have an exciting end game on release, that being said the leveling and story will be satisfying enough for me to pickup the game and then get into the end game later on when they do nail it down.
people get dumber and dumber. games good fun and looks nice. that’s all that matters.
Asmongold said it was an 8.5. Haven’t seen the other critiques you referenced. Mostly I’ve seen a lot of positivity.
D4 is a newer game and still can’t even come close to PoE lets not even consider what PoE2 will be like
Diablo 4 literally feels like a Diablo skin of Lost Ark. Mostly in a bad way haha.
Right all I know is people loving it
3:43 who should give a fuck about the majority of “players”??? NOBODY should!! The masses are a bunch of dumb idiots who will throw money at all the bullshit that is provided by these companies.. enabling them to rip us off over and over… The dumb masses want accessibility and a big free4all, and the masses will buy into these microtransaction battle pass bullshit ties… we cannot have nice things because of this mainstream bullshittery causing games to usually become shallow casual shitshows or microtransaction-infested crap… and yes the pricetag of 60 is antiquated and I would support buy2play with some sort of “standardized” battle pass or subscription model to cover the cost for the game.. but greed AND masses supporting this are a really bad combination.
Just curious, what loser, A-holes, are saying that they hate Diablo 4? Because you really have to be a born, bred and raised A-hole who either never played Diablo 3 in the past or who are not true ARPG gamers. That includes any content creators you mentioned here on your lame-ass video that may have said that. I am guessing by your video title and by the fact you are getting most if not all of your opinion from other content creators here on YouTube and that you have 0 time spent in either Early access beta or in the current open beta. I have already logged around 35 hours and I am now leveling my 4th character to max levels. This game is in beta, I guess you don’t understand what that means. It is a work in progress and even still, it is already better and more polished than any other game that has come out in the last decade except for Hogwarts Legacy which was amazing with little to no bugs at launch. There were over a million players during early access beta, and the vast majority of players who participated gave it glowing reviews for the beta version. Do real research and see what the entire gaming community thinks not just a handful of the most popular YouTube content creators.
One key change you have not accounted is most games are not looking for the quick sell nowadays. They are looking to monetize over a 3 year period (or more). If the dungeons and gear do not have the variety people are looking for, they are going to leave Diablo 4 after the first couple of months. So who will be funding the game over the next 3 years? The people you are dismissing who would heavily invest in the game. Blizzard has to fix to improve dungeon and gear variety.
I miss the creativity of loot specific gear. It gave me a reason to grind just to find it like a pair of Crown or Ages because I needed the damage reduction / resist & fhr.
Now the items are just based on a random loot simulator where finding gear with 5 affixes plus a slot is the end goal. Which is absolutely atrocious grinding like a gatcha game.
I’m sorry, I lost interest watching the rest of the vid after the tangent into WoW. I didn’t want to hear about the nostalgia for another game.
Never played any of these games. Ready to try Diablo 4 most realistic combat I’ve seen in this genre and very gritty and non kiddish. So hyped for it.
I like it, so not everyone hates it
From what I’ve played, and reviews I’ve seen, I don’t think it’s “everyone hates Diablo 4”. I think it’s just a small group. The overwhelming majority seem to be really loving it.
I’ve never wanted to watch someone level up more than that rested UD mage
its blizzard. more players = more money. theyre a business in making money by using video games to do so… they dont care about shit but the money their products can make.
How much does Blizzard pay you?
the open beta is a disaster, endless que times, no UI, cant assign skils, cant swap gear, etc etc,
Everyone loves to hate Blizzard, no matter how good of a game they make now, it’s just gonna receive hate.
I’m one of the people that the font really took me out of it 🤣 it’s so stale but I still really had fun with the beta
surprised they havent shut down d3 servers yet. rip live service
I think it’s great and I’ve been playing diablo since the beginning
i think people need to be objective about things and the problem with diablo content creators, is that they arent objective in many ways. their views on the game are already skewed by previous games. now diablo 2 is a wonderful game but with many archaic game design choices that some newer arpgs have overcome.
now is diablo 4 superior? no hell no. does it have odd game design choices? yes it does
but i think at the end of the day what matters most is, is it fun? and i think that should always be the one aspect one should be looking for. now you may say fun is subjective but there are some games that are across liked many people because of their gameplay ie resident evil 4
Everyone I talked to who played it thought it was very good. And so did I.
Am I the only one who is over queues? Call me when you have the infrastructure in place for me to play, I’m not big on waiting in pretend lines.
Every game has something that you’re not going to be crazy about. It’s sad that they can’t change how dungeons will be but it won’t prevent me from playing. Considering all the different things you can do at endgame, I don’t think I’ll be “forced” to just do dungeons and get bored. I’m still reserving most of my opinions until I can actually play at the endgame. Either way I feel that I’ll get my money’s worth while hoping that the game will keep players engaged through multiple seasons.
No one likes Diablo 4 ? What are you stupid lol. The game is a 10/10
Speak for yourself
Diablo 4 4/10 .. and i will be posting a whole channel on Diablo 4 with updates and contents and news. Wut ?
People really complaining about itemization and complexity at the beginning of the game…….. I def get the dungeon thing, but it will likely not be quite as big of a deal when we have multiple zones, pvp, more events, world bosses etc. to do and they said it was something they said they would take a look at but obviously it will be post launch. As for power scaling I never really felt like it was an issue and I put quite a lot of time in the last beta weekend, but once again its low level stuff so it’s really hard to gauge how that plays out later on. Based on Diablo 3 sales these more hardcore arpg players are the minority and I think a lot of their concerns (which half feel invalid given the low cap in beta) are likely to be a non issue for the majority of players if we see the kinda sales we saw with D3 or even close to it.
I don’t think all the creators you named hate d4. They had heavy criticism, but they didn’t give it a “hate”
Looks like plenty of folks are liking Diablo 4… ‘We are expecting exceptionably high player volume during Diablo IV’s Open Beta Weekend.’ I know my queue is sitting at 47min…
These clickbaity thumbnails and the tone of conjured controversy is a bit much. I know it gets you views but think of your dignity, man.
I’m playing it for 4 hours, and to be honest, not anything that big over D3 to make me want to pay that much money for it when there are free to play games that are just as good if not better. Hell the Diablo phone game is about as good as this 💩 is. ..😂
This is what beta is for, to work out the kinks.
tbh this looks and feels like any other dumb korean cr*p like lost ark or the other 500 uninnovative grind farm games…. it doesnt feel like Diablo at all.
I dont know but watching that gameplay made me go wow is that it? a messy colored light vomit show again with popup numbers… yaay….
I remember seein a Game where evrything was simulated like the sword swining and the ragdols you could use a bucket as a weapon iff you shoved it on the enemy zombie etc i felt hype and excitment about that but this?! another lightvomit mess on screen with endless number of weak ass enemies rollin on the screen dying to the same 3 spells you will use for 300 hours of gameplay….
Ye it looks good…. who the fck cares how it looks, i was more excited about a terraria update than this junk tbh….
I see your point. But I honestly don’t care. Film school critics are an essential part of the film industry. Yet, the marvel cinematic universe is what rules. Do I like that, NO! But there is space for both things in the world. A niche community isn’t going to keep thousands of people in their jobs. GUARANTEED. Some of these critics make their money on downing Blizzard. By all means, do more. If I was a millionaire and had all this input on video games and friends in the industry. I would become part of that industry. D4 isn’t perfect but 4/10 ya mad.
If it’s not d2 then it’s not d2. Stop chasing the dragon y’all
Love it tbh
I just started OB. I actually like it quite a bit but the story is what got me I think. I have some serious hung ups about the HUD and the Map etc.
I wish I could keep playing Diablo 2 without falling asleep
After playing the open beta for a few hours I have to say I’m really, really… whelmed. I won’t critique the itemization or buildpaths yet, cause it’s only lvl 25 and a lot can change but god damn do I hate the level scaling. So much so that my hype for D4, which was already low to begin with because of certain unknowns (shop, battle pass, primarily monetization (I don’t trust Bliz anymore)), has died down to the point where I won’t buy the deluxe version for the 4 days headstart and even won’t preorder the standard version. I can wait, maybe for a sale… or after a few seasons and see what happens.
What I do like tho is the feel of the abilities and the combat… if there wouldn”t be the level scaling. God damn.
I think it’s a amazing game, but I don’t think it’s gonna be worth 70 bucks if this is all they have.
Rifts are more fun than the dungeons as you’re constantly fighting. Not backtracking, looking for a key or lever. And of course more mob density in rifts.
My biggest complaint right now is that I have to be a chubby druid
Imagine judging a ARPG at lvl 25… In D3 or POE or Last Epoch the game is pretty boring, slow and generic at such low lvls.
come here to hear about d4 and 7:38 mins about wow lol
Lesson number 1 – never listen to streamers and youtubers about any game. They have completely unrealistic expectation from the games they play.
never seen blizzard copium so out of control. i cant even find a review i can trust. no one can predict what blizzard will do with the game. listening to the same people who praise overwatch 2 does not work for me.
Yeah but fuck normie gamers. I want good games. Not casual games. PoE is popular because D3 was a shit show and dumbed down. Stop dumbing down games.
The Q is waiting for you
In terms of comparing it to WoW I actually disagree a bit and I think this is a common trap in thinking when it comes to talking about WoW being ‘accessible’.
The reason WoW was ‘accessible’ is because it had much more quality-of-life features than something like EverQuest, but IMO in vanilla most of them were very solid improvements. They were things EQ would have probably liked to do, but didn’t and then the games kind of evolved into having different identities. Point being I think OG WoW was honestly pretty Sandbox in the traditional definition of the word.
You didn’t *have* to do anything, and there were lots of way you could choose to play the game. The game just did a better job of guiding you when you did decide to do said thing, but even that was fairly light.
You have almost a million subscribers. Are click Baits really necessary?
Trolls
Click bait. Not listening.
Diablo 4 is pretty bad, everything gets one shot. Can’t invite or play with anyone, definitely a spiritual successor to Diablo 3. I really do hope I am wrong and this game turns into something even a little close to d2
Why is anyone surprised? This is literally the same game in new packaging
I hate that it’s an MMO-Lite… It has the Diablo feeling we were missing from D3 but instead of giving us the next Diablo, they are developing a Lost Ark clone with timed Events that get pinged on your map, an abundance of materials that nobody needs, upgradeable systems that are just there for fluff and don’t make sense in gameplay progression (like health potion needing to be upgraded). I love how it looks but I hate how it makes me WANT to play D3 since it feels better as an arpg. If they won’t turn tide to give us private/friend lobbies and get rid of world boss timers (make it a joint effort to get WB to spawn like in Sea of Thieves with the big Leviathan). I just don’t know how I feel about the game rn. I will hold out on it since there isn’t enough to draw me in but there is enough to keep me away for sure!
it’s all opinion, all those dudes do is sit at home and play video games lmao people that actually go out and do stuff in the day and come home to play for a few hours or the weekend the layout is just fine. Influencers are bad for gaming
I just want to move around with W. A. S. D. Keys.
I hate mouse-clicking to move.
What people are reviewing is the Beta, not the actual game. The Devs have even stated that the beta is an older version of the true Diablo 4 game. So kind of hard to make a review of the actual game when the game hasn’t officially released yet. There will be future improvements with updates when game releases. So if anything, should point out to gamers whom are hating are hating the Beta, not D4, since the game hasn’t officially released yet, lol.
Also, we only play dungeons in one region. We haven’t played other dungeons in the other regions where they could be completely different in the actual game release.
Idk where your getting your info but everywhere and everyone I see including myself love it. Nice video for clicks though 😂 sad.
So if “everyone” who hates it would kindly stop playing so the queue is significantly shorter, that’d be great. Leave it for those of us that actually like it.
IT’S NOT A DIABLO GAME. “DIABLO” 3 WASN’T ONE EITHER. STOP COPING.
Its diablo 3.5 at best. Poe is still king by far.
I got say the big issue with diablo4 beta is that is not what players want to see because most hardcore diablo fans want to try end game and this is it for the last fail on diablo franchise, and is a think no one could or want to hide, blizzard should realese a end game no story beta to really try progression itemesation and replayability things that are core of the game, and they took until reaper of souls to correct on diablo 3, also the fail of diablo immortal on al senses, and in certain point of my life i would agree with you force that i would play d4 no matter what, though i’m not a kid any more and I need to buy a game that is worth for the money they asking for it, the sad true is that beta won’t help me on that decision because they decide not to show any of the important feautures of the game, and I think they simple could give us fully level chars to try them other than level up char to half of their ingame progress a think that for diablo 3 player is not even imortant or excited any more, we did that for years and it became so annoying, and the concern is that they only recolor to tetric more gory world but they leave the same problems of diablo 3 vanilla, that was so unfinish game. So far itemisation remains the same there is a lot of items and not so much items that really works, and that is problem that is from d3 and they never adress you have like a thousand legendaries including sets and for season you end it up using 13 that really gonna work for your class and the other are garbage. And the answer should not be low drop rates to make legendaries more relevant or not putting set yet make that false idea, they need to design legendaries that really are meaningfull to each stage of the game but mostly to end game that everyone knows their will be people rushing for that end game. Also repetitives map was something we suffer so much and we want somthing different and maps with no enemies felt like a walking simulator.
If you think Diablo 4 is representative I have some bad news about ARPG’s
Holy high end batman. Your voice is kinda hard to listen to — you should get izotope rx and use the de-crackle module on your voice, this type of harsh resonance will be missed by most de-essers and it really is hard on my ears
The fact you level up and lose power if you’re not supplemented by gear seems stupid.
The world scaling with you will make hardcore play incredibly unpredictable.
A lot of copium in this video. I agree that we’ll have to wait and see there is too little info to know for sure at level 25. But I’m not holding out hope if anything I’m worried it will be worse at max level.
I like it personally. All I want from this game is for it to look great, feel great, and scaling. Ultimately, I want to feel like I am growing with my character, as I fight hard to accomplish things and get rewarded for it, I wan’t to feel that progressing for the work that went into it. If I get to end game and it feels the same to me as it did at level 1 then that will be a failure for me, however if I get to the end game and I feel all powerful, that is what I care about. The in-between doesn’t really matter to me as long as there is that sense of progression in the journey. Levels 1 – whatever the cap will be, can’t all feel the same to me.
I don’t think anyone hates it…hard-core players are a very particular bunch so they will ALWAYS find an issue with something. They are oftentimes correct in their critique but not to the level of ruining the game.
It blows my mind some of the complaints. Complaining about linear D4 dungeons, pretending maps like Strand doesn’t exist and get farmed by so many people… I don’t get it. Even D2, people figured out how to find the correct way (or the handful of possible correct ways) to go for most farm routes so they could just make a straight shot to boss. PoE has lot of run straight at this boss at the end of this map. Dungeons really didn’t feel too samey to me, the atmosphere of so many of them were so wildly different and I found myself paying attention to combat more so than staring at the minimap for a pattern. People also need to stop thinking that dungeons are the ONLY end game content. World bosses, hell tides, events… you can switch up your end game activity if you get bored. IDK man, sometimes I feel like some of the negativity is just to get clicks. People love to hate on stuff. There are some balance issues for sure (although we are on an older build, so maybe they’ve been addressed in later builds already? Maybe not?), and I’d like a few more unique bosses for the end of dungeons… but some of these complaints just make me shake my head.
Your clickbait title is bs. Scummy move
Seriously dude? The loud minority have been making mountains out of molehills all week and you’re throwing your lot on with THEM?
I do like a lot of it, but dungeons are absolutely terrible. I’m sick of running them after doing like 3. 2:15 Dungeons aren’t procedural at all. They have a set layout, and usually it’s just one straight path with 2 or 3 loops to the sides. Also, UI needs a lot of work imo
Remember for open beta to FPS limit the game via AMD/Nvidia control panel – your graphics card and power supply will thank you 😛
Everyone just wants to hate on blizzard. Plenty will play d4, and I will likely be one. I’m looking forward to a Druid, even if it’s ass.
I love D4
The general population likes more casual content with some challenging aspects. Past games prove that and often more than not its the hardcore elitist players that are negative and bring down the rest of the community.
i got 3080ti, ill consider trying the game out in 2-3 years , not risking my gpu dying and yes i am too ignorant to listen, cose i aint taking risks, you take the risk, im not
I’ll be holding off until I see the endgame even if i have to wait a few weeks after launch. Maybe PoE has spoiled me but if we just get a tweaked D3 end game of no trading and nothing but endless rifts then it’ll be a hard pass from me.
People said the same thing when D3 came out comparing it to D2.
Fields of Elysium.
Dude it’s beta and it’s very good
It’s boring, it’s boring, it’s not good
The game played very smooth. Graphics looked great IMHO. I still like the complexity of the gem skill system and the passive tree in PoE compared to what I have seen in D4 so far. I may actually get a refund on the pre-purchase because I expected more. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a great game, it is just not for me.
Lol I just had a flashback to Diablo 3’s release and the launch of your second channel then, here’s hoping it goes better this time! 😛
I would give the game a 7.7 out of 10.
Give me an overlay map and make it so we can bind force move/interact on left mouse, no attack, and I can handle every other thing I’ve seen or had pointed out to me as a VERY minor issue. It’s not going to be D1 or D2, and it shouldn’t. I think it’s a great combination of the things we love from over the years. Just those couple issues that are things we’ve had in every other ARPG for over 10 years, fix em, and I’m here for the long haul.
Only negative feedback from me is game price. Digital game 69,90 €….
After playing last week + some more today to about level 23 on rogue and a couple others to about 10-15, I do enjoy the game. Is it perfect? no, but the game has the scaffolding to build it out more I think.
Edit: bottom line, it’s fun to me, and I will play it enough to get 70 bucks of value out of it.
I love D4 it’s very fun 🤩
From what I’ve seen, I think Diablo 4 will succeed at being exactly what it aims to be, not a game that revolutionizes the genre but a solid ARPG with nice graphics and fun combat and super high production values. There are tons of things you can criticize about it but it seems like the basics of the game, the combat, the visuals, the story, are all very well made. Things like balancing, level scaling and so on are just a matter of patching.
I don’t understand why people are so critical… we got probably only 1/4 of the entire game for the beta.
FORCE 2ND CHANNEL!!!! I’m here for it bro, been here since your long form podcast on D3 beta.
They need to get rid of the objectives and just let people proceed wherever they like in dungeons
lol who is everyone? game is fun as hell and its only the beta
All of these streamers are hacker trash. Not impressed.
When a company replaces 50% of their employees hired based on merit with affirmative action trash, what do you expect?
I took my Review as a grain of salt because it IS a Beta after all. The details aren’t finalized yet. I am holding off my critiques and opinions until the game is indeed finalized and I can do a proper review of a finished game. Definitely think you’re hittin the nail on the head though.
Thank you so much for bringing some perspective to the discussion around D4. This is, by a wide margin, the most thoughtful and self-aware commentary I’ve heard or read about the game pretty much ever.
The game is good I like it
Honestly, I am just waiting for the videos from youtubers who will be protesting blizzard if they just absolutely ruin this game with microtransactions. And it will make me laugh. There is absolutely no way Blizzard is going to let Diablo 4 escape especially considering overwatch 2 and Immortal. I bet anything the ball will drop after reviews.
Another day, another case of the Internet not being real
the game is ok, and I get it, its just beta, but the foundation is there and its nothing special.
Most people don’t hate DIV. I’m not sure what Force has seen. The most popular figures have all said the game has issues but massive potential at the same time. Nobody gave it a 4. Kripp was critical but realistic, gave it a 6 and said the game in a year could be a 9-9.5. Asmon gave the beta an 8. Quin gave it a 7. Others gave it similar ratings. Anywhere in-between 6-8. Very weird video to put out Force. Unless you’ve been fed content through a straw instead of a gas pipe.
I’ve never heard of negativity prior to Wow’s launch. I do, however, remember how shitty the launch was and the endless queues
I agree with most of the criticisms to a certain extend. BUT I also think gameplaywise, D4 is just the best in the genre. Period.
Combat really felt meaningful and enemy placement and composition were spot on. It reminded me of the new God of War games, where every combat encounter was carefully designed by a human being.
Also the Path of Exile comparisons have to stop. If you enjoy it, fine.
There are hundreds of good reasons why people don’t enjoy it though. It’s a game that does some things right and fails miserably in other departments. Stop treating it like the second coming.
Diablo, by the game’s nature, is repetitive af. Some people love it, some people hate it.
Every one has a right to their opinion, but some are more irrelevant than others. Someone playing D2 for 20 years complaining about the repetitiveness of D4 strikes me as an hypocrite. I am sure that D4 can use more variety, but clearly that is not an issue for someone still playing D2. The maps layout are always the same and the gameplay cant be anymore basic
Everyone has critiques but I never hear solutions
This is why I haven’t buy this game yet and just trying the beta. Let’s see if they will improve some aspects
you are a gem, my friend
I played and like gameplay but this MMO element are annoying and too much quests ….
Its a bit mixed i think, the die hard fans are harsh, too harsh, i played it, and damn i like it, it feels good, cant wait for the full game!!
Level scaling in kingdoms of amalur was cool. It established a locked base level every time you entered a new zone. So you could overpower eventually and then work your way up again in the next zone. (Can do this by subzones)
lol everyone hates diablo iv but were all gonna wait in line? sounds like complete bs.
The beta is just a stress test. This is to prevent what happened in D3’s launch. It’s still too early to hate on it now. 🙂
The general public don’t know shit, I’m loving it. Cannot wait for launch.
You forgot the network issues, rubberbanding, and random disconnects. Also the 5 hour queue
Not to mention that the people who played last weekend actually paid for that experience….
Also if I wanted to play an online game in the ARPG genre I would play Lost Ark…. They should make us able to turn off multiplayer
I’m just upset how long it takes for me to get into the beta like it doesn’t take much to let us play a single player beta
I’ve accepted this is going to be terrible the first few seasons. I’ll try it out on release (who wouldn’t) but I doubt it will live up to what we want right away.
Probably because they keep dying on Veteran difficulty.
Click bait
Perfect video to watch while in another 45 min queue after being disconnected for the 3rd time.
How dare you not mention The God Clown Gamer Quin69 and his thoughts on D4.
I dont hate it, but i also dont like it and i definitely wont waste $70 on an ARPG when POE exists 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The only people that don’t like it are the dorks who want Diablo 2…, for the third time
The music just kills it for me. Older diablos always had rythmic, pumping orchestral or guitar background tracks that created an intense mood of always being in danger, always being cautious looking around the next corner, and that feeling was just great. I can still hum every diablo 1 and 2 track even after not having listened to them the past 20 years.
Diablo 4´s music is….boring. The devs seem to want to create a sad and chaotic feeling with it but the music just sounds bland, boring and even made me tired after around 90 minutes of gameplay. And the worst thing is that it absolutely misfits the really improved visuals after D3´s more comic style look. The graphics are really really an improvement but the music….brrrrrr
I give it 5/10. Its average arpg.
Sat in a que for an hour then got an error code 3 times this has happened haven’t seen the character creation screen yet lol this is crazy
I don’t understand why, the graphics and story look amazing. They just aren’t diablo fans i guess… The added gameplay and boss battles are nothing like anything they’ve done before, and i’ve only played the first 15 mins.
Saying “everybody” is totally different to say “everybody on the internet”
You keep reiterating “as of lv 25”. However, the repetitious gameloop found at lv 25 carries through to endgame.
The whole “take a game, refine it with the Blizzard polish and profit” approach used to work for them. I dont think its enough anymore. Times have changed, key Blizzard staff have moved on over the years and the Blizzard you knew exists in name only. Its nowhere near the same company now. They’ve got the IP’s as legacy titles but the people who knew how to use them arent there, and the people that are there now dont have a clue. Thats the bottom line.
One thing that you mentioned was about the “Content Creators” is that they do not represent the vast majority of players. They need to accept the fact they really don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
Ive been playing diablo since i was a kid when it 1st came out to now. All ive seen is more complaints than anything. Lol 4/10 theres no pleasing ppl anymore. That score is just b/s. This game is in beta and its already amazing. I wish i was back in the day where no one complained and and enjoyed things. I have no complaints. With the game…. lets go see them make a game and have no complaints.
Like I told my friend you sit there and can complain complain complain, but you still playing the game???¿ Dont play it anymore. Enjoy the game and be thankful you can even play in the 1st place many ppl cant. Just grinds my gears hearing all these cry babies complain.
I’ve seen some videos of content and most loved D4.
As for me I don’t care whatsoever. I’ve seen blizzard policy with immortals and ow2 and yeah screw them and their monetization, not gonna happen, I got better places to spend my time and money
They better start doing their own game if they don`t like anything on the market.
Interesting title. I’m not completely sold on D4 just yet. Let’s hear what you have to say, sir 😈
But it was a different blizzard
No, they dont
I’m personally done with all the sweaty D2 stans trying to ruin this game with their “suggestions” on how D4 should be more like D2. D2R is right there for you, with seasons now, go play that snoozefest. Leave D4 to be D4.
*If you are not a Hardcore Diablo fan you are most likely not going to enjoy Diablo 4 for very long.*
*Games like that is very time-consuming and with endless braindead nonstop hack n slash grind.*
*Remember Diablo 3 fiasco, Diablo Immortal and how Blizzard treats their playerbase and employees.*
*Diablo 4 = No Thanks.*
I’m going to say this as someone who never got the draw of Diablo and games like it.
D4 is just more of that, but with what I consider a kinda weak UI/item system and im pretty sure that there is a way to dismantle crap that I just didn’t see initially. I went with emperor jazz hands and found that once I got the power to chain lightning people, I used that, ran when it ran out of juice, did it again, ran, did it again, so on and so forth. Only one dungeon thing gave me trouble and that was one with a big spider at the end that you get stun locked by the web on the floor which isn’t super visible due to all the crap going on at the time.
The one thing I did notice that annoyed me was that the bosses seemed to have more health than the game was showing. I can’t remember one that was “dead” but not dead and there was a secondary red line about 1/10h of the way into their empty life bar that existed for no real reason.
Is D4 going to be good? No clue. Will I play it? Only when the person I game share with wants to play it. Was more of Diablo style game, which I consider a tad boring.
I definitely enjoyed my time in Diablo 4 last weekend and plan on playing again this weekend. Dunno who/where all these haters are, but most of the people I’ve talked to and the coverage I’ve seen has been generally positive.
I kinda feel like the people complaining just want Diablo 2 again… in which case, go play D2R.
Important thing to remember: It’s been popular to hate on anything related to Blizzard the past few years due to the fairly recent controversy.
Many people struggle to seperate a quality game/product from the controversy of the company itself. I believe D4 is a fun game and experience and am looking forward to full release, despite whatever shit blizzard has going on in the office.
Cringe af thumbnail title. imagine trying to judge a game on a beta test and then using “everyone” as if its a true and factual statement. GOOFY 🤡
There is always 1 group of people that write crap reviews even if the game is awesome and fun to play. Everyone has the right to their opinions. You should take this CRAP review with a grain of salt and play the game yourself and see what YOU think.
Man I hate these numbers and health bars
you´re gonna polish the knobs of those clown streamers? final nail in the coffin for you.
Its the MMO problem with scaling enemys dont work in a game like DIablo or any Arpg it just makes it boring, dont make it wow where you lveling up just makes you weaker until you gear up fully.
I have really enjoyed the beta. I have also seen a lot of bad reviews but these days that don’t matter much to me anymore, if it’s fun play it =]
The game is beyond an improvement in the series. I bet these haters are people who didn’t/couldn’t play.
Everyone wants this to be PoE lol, mf go play POE then 😂
Let’s be real here, none of the Beta previews matter. This is Current-Year-Blizzard, it isn’t until it is released that the TRUE colours of the monetisation are on display. Aka the system that is the only reason they don’t allow offline play even on consoles.
ok after some of the open beta the game is fucked. necromancer is so op its stupid. the different zones of the open world LIKE CITYS have max capacity of p[layers and if its maxed you just cant get in to it. how they missed such a thing? like servers are a technology from aliens to them? god fucking dam. blizzard just get dead already., cant do any thing good any more. its like they fuck up things intentionally
I love the game! But then I also loved Immortal! So that’s telling for those that didn’t like Immortal
I don’t get the hate on scaling, yeah you have to be better at the gear and talent game, buy it also means that everything matters, no skipping content because you outleveled it
Im enjoying it. I wasnt over the moon for it after last beta but today getting to play druid that quickly changed. Needless to say looking forward to being able to continue to level up a druid.
great video. see you in the fields of misery? heh
I don’t hate it but it didn’t hold my interest for long. I went back to playing deep rock and d2r. I got to maybe level 13 or something.
What u talking about exactly? I’ve seen lots of positive things about it. It’s a beta
Idk man. I played for about 15 hours and did some co op with a buddy and enjoyed it. There are people putting in 100 hours IN A BETA and complaining about the game being repetitive, like cmon bro that isn’t a valid critique at this time
The people shitting on WoW were the hardcore Ever Quest players. That isn’t a fair comparison. As the game was never meant to appeal to them, it was meant to appeal to blizzard fans (which they were not). Diablo 4 is meant to appeal to blizzard fans/ARPG Fans/Diablo Fans. Who are they drawing into it? These are the types of people who will play the game. Now your defense, is that causal gamers are going to come and enjoy the game. Yeah they will, like they did with Diablo 3. They will put in 40-50 hours and move onto the next game. The criticisms is about a lasting game that will stand up to its predecessors and competitors. Diablo 2, Diablo 3 (after of years of updates), and Path of Exile. The critiques are that it doesn’t.
The biggest red flag is the fact that they are not doing beta testing of actual endgame content. The Diablo 3 team did the same thing. Capping the level at 25 means that there is no hardcore feedback of balance and enjoyment of the late game. Diablo 3 was a blast in the beta, though it was really limited. We all know how the endgame turned out.
looks like diablo immortal with another ui
my question is: what exactly has ANY diablo game done better dungeon wise? i dont know what people expect honestly
D4 is amazing people are weirdos.
Just a title to catch views
Just wait until they add the pay to win stuff 😂
They put the bar so low with immortal so most of the positive reviews are probably coping.
D4 looks good but feel so empty, flat like there’s no weight to it. Seems like one of those game u beat, get bored and moved on
Damn after logging in today the only thing I’m really critical of is why the hell are druids fat as hell… seriously…. no one wants to play the blob when they could roll with wolverine or colossus.
They look disgusting. Damn nutty professor up in here casting tornadoes and stuff. I thought maybe they were going like the dad bod strong man look but nope.
Completely killed the class fantasy to even want to play. What the hell happened to all that cool concept art and I know I’ve seen previous gameplay with them. They definitely have changed them.
I mean they have freakin back fat rolls.
At least give us a few body type options and people who want to play a basement dweller can choose to. The rest of us will play something that looks like it hasn’t been living on cheetos and mountain dew for decades.
The female characters models suck. Why are we afraid of good looking women? They made them look like men. I”ll pass on this game.
just watched a video about how ridge wallet is one of the scummiest sponsors on youtube for smaller youtubers. they forced this guy to do 2 additional ad reels and then even after he did all 4 they didnt pay him for 4 whole months, no contact. may want to look into that
Yea its trash, kinda sad so much hype but trash game, well good thing PoE 2 will carry us ARPG lovers.
My main issues are the dungeons being identical and the devs saying they look different in other acts but from gameplay I’ve seen the dungeons in other acts are the same for that act as In every act has a certain style of dungeon and all of them are the same
Always a good day with a Force upload
doing the strongholds underleveled was so much fun…i thought the dungeons were ok.
Everything I’ve seen so far makes me want to play some more Diablo. But nothing I’ve seen makes me want to try out Diablo IV (or Immortal) over just firing up the familiar Diablo III. Or just dive into some Torchlight II again and play around with mods there. I may try to play the Open Beta of Diablo IV this weekend, but I’m not sure I even want to deal with that mess to get a free demo experience.
So the same problems they’ve always had…
Everyone? Game only just now hit open beta.
i been playing WoW sent beta i love it my son started when he was 5 we both have been top class in all azeroth i keep playen till WoW and diablo are no more
Everyone hates being put in the everyone basket, and while I’m not everyone, I am someone who likes D4.
I think it’s going to be a great game and the beta was fun, but there’s a TON of QoL stuff that should be there that isn’t which is super frustrating.
Lol, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet! 😆 Wait a day or so until everyone see’s the Necro & Druid; and then you’ll understand the REAL reason why they were disabled last weekend. – The hyped got used. I suppose everyone else was reserved for the rub.
You should call the channel: Diablo Four-ce… get it? 😀
Yeah, I dont trust someone that has already started whining before the game has even come out and before we have any idea what is going to be in there.
I enjoyed my time w/ the game
The expectation bar for D4 is rediculous high, as it´s seen as a contender for the best arpg ever. Diablo games always peaked with expansions. I expect nothing else for D4, as for now we have cautious solid ground for things to come. However, I loved the beta and can´t wait for release. Feeling something really great ahead.
Proud ton be in the 95% ! This game is incredible I love it ! Nice video as usual Force , thank you
Stuttering IV the game.
3:58 not finishing this.
This is a shit take by default. If casuals like it, it’s fine? Now I understand why they were always disregarded in the first place. Little shit like “having three different fonts in the UI doesn’t matter” is why casuals should never be catered to whatsoever.
Everyone is stupid af
Its funny how many people seem to enjoy the mmo part of D4. Me personally would love to be able to play offline and not see anyone else in the game ^^
BIG FAT SKIP!
Honestly don’t care how many people “hate Diablo 4” because I for one ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! Enjoying every second. Especially since this is my second round of beta! I like how they let our progress carry from closed to open beta.
Every single review I’ve seen has been nothing but praise but okay
Level scaling is never a good thing. It killed racing games for me, when I found out about rubberbanding…
Personally it feels like a poor book to movie adaption. I fell in love with one thing but they wanted to take creative liberty and make something else but instead of giving it a new name they just reskinned the thing I liked. Which I guess is my problem not their of course but just means I’m uninterested in the game until proven other wise.
Shared loot is superior with MF groups of friends. Screw P-loot with level balancing.
Average joe here looks good to me
I agree. I do think the internet is a different place for the “average” person today than it was in 2004 and people love to jump on a hate bandwagon these days.
fock gaming. grow tf up
Blizzard sucks lol XD
The power scaling is the main concerning thing to me. If you don’t feel like you are getting stronger relative to the monsters you are fighting, then it seems kind of useless. Being able to go toe-to-toe with that monster that was one-shoting me 5 or 10 levels ago is integral to the sense of progression. I haven’t played D4 though, so maybe I’m missing something.
I couldn’t care less about any streamer/youtuber/wannabe content creator opinion. If I like it I play it. If I don’t like it I don’t play it. It’s that simple.
Big L, blocking your channel
Am with diablo from begining,1 and 2 are amazing,d3 was pure dumbed down garbage and d4 feels just like d3…
All I’ve seen are good reviews im confused lol
The fact that the enemies are leveling up with yourself is a reason for me not to play.
Its the first act. Leveling up is never amazing. Im having fun overall.
D4 is a watered down version of D3. which wasnt fantastic to start with.
all the new “revolutionary” features are made to take your money.
Thats the problem with all reviewers and streamers. They play 8h a day and start seeing a lack of content or repetitive things, most of us normal human beings win jobs will not see this as fast as they do. Hopefully there is quite a bit of variation
People complaining about the replay ability concerns lmao. I’ve never heard of someone wanting or asking for an unhealthy addiction. World of Warcraft and d2 literally destroyed peoples lives and marriages. Flunking out of school and shyt. It’s no joke lol
Nice to see there’s a minute contingent of the gaming community that have a crystal ball ,opinions and conjecture that know exactly what a game is gonna be from a beta. 😂😂😂
Argumentum ad populum isn’t a cogent counter point.
You must really love crap games, this game is getting much higher reviews. And also it’s still being worked on and it’s only a small amount of the same. I hate the always online crap though and once again blizzard has sh1t servers.
Font, actually, is a top priority thing in an arpg.
When you spend hours looking for items and reading their stats, they have to look awesome and not a pile of “bold Arial” lines. The shape of each character has to remind you what you are playing. Are you playing a mobile p2w game ? Or a true gem ? The font tells a lot. Diablo 2 font was the best, because it felt like it was some carved/sculpted metal aspect. You could feel the relief of it. And you could tell characters have had some shiny aspect at some point, but at the time you looted it, they were a bit damaged.
They were like out of thin sculpted metal. So they were not that thin, but the shiny top of the edge of the characters was thin.
I don’t know how to explain this (in english even less), but I don’t like 90% of fonts used for item names in any other ARPG.
Path of Exile got it about right imo. Could be a bit better, but sufficient for me not to notice it very much.
An Item needs to look precious and unique. Not Yet Another Stat Stick with whatever font, whatever name …
I’ve gotten a good 2 hrs in so far as I was sadly to busy for last weeks closed beta despite already pre-ordering, but so far, i like it.
Sad I can’t play as the barbarian because from what I’ve seen and heard, the class has gotten little love so instead I went necromancer and its a rather good blast.
waited for 50 min to play 15 min and now i have to wait for 150 min ! FUCK YOU BLIZZARD !!
Ngl, all the new games coming out look like mediocre graphical upgrades. If you’re expecting something new, it just isn’t going to happen. I’m ready to uninstall everything but Project Zomboid and the city builders. These games getting hyped don’t do jack squat for anything new.
This is a great game. Anyone criticizing a beta for not being complex or diverse enough has lost the plot. It’s a beta with a very specific, smaller section of the game available. Also, just ask yourself how many games have been released without critiques. Zero. As gamers we are canceling our own culture more than ever
People love PoE but i cant even get to the last act because of just how boored i get and how ugly the game is, Im not the one spending 1khrs each season, So for me if the game has a good feel to it, story and visuals, its enough for me, maybe the pricing is abit steep if you are not gonna hardcore play this game to get the moneys worth.
Scaling is the hallmark of a failed RPG. There is not a single RPG that has level scaling that’s great in its “RPG” aspect. Even The Witcher 3, where it is optional, isn’t great in the RPG aspect, it’s great in the narrative, world and visual aspects. The RPG aspect of that game stinks. Take a look at WoW – the RPG aspect of that game, despite the strides taken by Dragonflight, still stinks. It’s more about… passive consumption of content, clicking and seeing particles pop and your dopamine going crazy. A Diablo game is about the RPG aspect – story is supposed to be minimal, entirely ignorable and you just go and you kill demons and get items. If that element is ruined, the game is dead on arrival.
I would like to see a seperate skill slot specifically for our Ultimate Skills so that we can have more build variety, instead of the 3 skills + Ultimate. let us have more choices.
I think it’s great, then again i don’t plan oi playing 4000 hours.
Dangit… now I want to play WoW again. (shakes fist at Force)
One thing to note (from private beta testers) – D4 does not have any “group required” content. 100% of the game is soloable at end game – including nightmare dungeons, world bosses – everything the hardest tier 100 content is soloable (with correct build/gear).
The only point of grouping is to make it more fun/easier.
Hate the skill tree. D2s was much better
Have fun this weekend but reserve judgement for June. It’s a beta for god’s sake, everyone thinks it’s launch day
Clickbait videos be clickbaiting
only you hate it as it seems
This is why we come to you for our news man. Great vid- thanks for giving us your honest thoughts and opinions. 👍
Ha… yes. Goat simulator is fun too, but is it a “good game ?”
lmao any blizzard game can be assumed to be total trash in the current year
I personally felt D4 brought back the D2 dark RPG vibes which is a complete and total win! D3 and Immortal are the “Arcade” versions while D1, D2, and hopefully all of D4 will be the “RPG” versions.
Whoa Force we actually get to see Force gaming with friends 😀 love it! i agree with the Points brought up, looking at content of the game and playing the beta, it feels as though something is off.
but it might be fixed in the future :).
or even very soon, who knows!
it is fun to play though, very much so!
looking forward to the new channel and again, feels crazy to have been watching your channel for roughly 8 Years and now you are having a new one 😀 crazy crazy
I realy love the game, the look, the feel. Those are important to me. And i already somewhat “liked” D3 endgame.. so if its anything like it and more, im already satisfied lol.
Not seen anyone hating the beta tbh. People have suggestions how to make things better but not hating on it
What’re you talking about. I love it and I know I’m not the only one
Hmmm if you are a casual player, you really dont matter, you gonna play any game that you think Is fun or not, but at some point you Will get into the same problem that More dedicated people will have and you will quit because you dont care, and you can play any other game by that matter.
Idk man I’ve seen a lot of people speaking positively about it too. This seems click baity
Sh*tty product = sh*tty scores. Welcome in real world. Surprised? Grow up.
Wow, what a great lifechanging Video. If, you are a real human, reading this, just stop. Im just throwing some data in here for the YT algorithm to chew on. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog” is an English-language pangram — a sentence that contains all the letters of the alphabet. The phrase is commonly used for touch-typing practice, testing typewriters and computer keyboards, displaying examples of fonts, and other applications involving text where the use of all letters in the alphabet is desired.
Asmongold literally looks like a crackhead why tf would I care what he has to say lmao
You have “discovered” that social media is a bubble that gives a somewhat unreal view of what “everybody” feels about something. It is artificial. There are more folks who do not social media much but they are the hidden masses. And in the end they determine reality. However not the perception of reality….
Not canceling my pre order, game will still be fun. Hell I still log in to d3 every once in a while, as disappointing as Mr Wilson’s vision was.
I’m all for it
10:00 “… That’s been Blizzards MO for a long time… it’s surprising that people are surprised this is the case.”
I can’t speak for anyone else, but gameplay feels like PoE after it’s massive blanket nerfs a year or two ago. It just isn’t the game I wanted. It feels like just a lot of the same. As if D3 and D:I had a baby. Density feels bad, clearing feels slow. Sure it’s level 25 right now but that’s all we have to go on. If endgame is night and day difference, show us that. Current product doesn’t look like a 70 dollar game. I don’t see much setting D4 apart from other games like Wolcen other than the Diablo name….
Everything isn’t perfect, but it’s great with a diablo game where there’s lots of things to to. And not a game like diablo 2 where you can beat the game without having any gear and skip most of the quests.
This game is trash at the moment, no reason to play it at launch, there is simply no challenge at all. Queue time is a shame as well, 2 hours to enter the game is not acceptable, i bet will the same at launch 100%.
I feel like the critique of feeling weaker as you level is purely a result of the beta having limited content. Sure, it feels bad when a level 15 seems to be stronger than your level 25 while running the same content, but when the game releases it’s not likely a level 15 and level 25 are going to be in the same areas. I would assume this power scaling of enemies as you level is intended, as it’s going to make enemies in the following areas feel more powerful, rather than every area having the exact same level of difficulty as the starter areas. So sure, it feels bad when you’re farming in the starter zones, but that’s not how I would imagine the full game is going to be played by most people.
Fake news
what a good take! 160k what a massive L!
Although I respect those people only 10-20 Highly vocal people sh*t on these games and break it down to its letters… There is no need?!!?! Diablo is SUPPOSED TO BE a dumb hack and slash 1 click game. It always has been. Most people will barely make it to end game content. I don’t understand what people expect more. There might be some real issues and they can be solved but other than that… Stop expecting this out of the world impossible video game and stop projecting …
Another attention mode clickbait title that’s earning a block. Everyone eh?? Lol
when people start complaining about a font, they can literally go get fucked. Stop pandering to people that just nitpick. Also, “everyone” doesn’t hate Diablo IV. A handful of other creators that give you your opinion did. I like the game. It needs a few tweaks, but I like it. I don’t let anyone else tell me what to think about it. Like some people……
It’s just PoE fanboys shitting on every aspect of the game cause they are shills and do whatever their favorite streamer says. Ppl can’t think for themselves nowadays, it’s evident in how many loser liberals there are in the US.
Thumbs Up for EQ-1 footage 😉
Diablo cast with Jesse coming back Denis?
I am interested to see what PoE 2 looks like because it’s the visuals in PoE that keep me from playing it. It just looks too bad for me to put up with the learning curve. I have really enjoyed what I’ve played of Diablo 4 so far. I’m not a super deep dive hardcore player, but I’ll likely put 6-9 hundred hours in or so. More if the seasons are good.
Blizzard and Apple really are just the kids who copy homework 😂
all blizzard games are trash yea they are doing what they have done for 20 years destroying games dead company
Unusually click-baity title for your channel, I just watched Asmond’s video and I think he was actually very positive with a couple side-note critiques.
I think a dungeon creator tool given to the community could be a great solution. Kinda like that new game where you add in modifiers that change the difficulty and layout of the dungeon.
The always online vit really kills this game for me. I don’t have good internet. I already can’t really play PoE because of it and now it’s actively making D4 a worse experience for me as well. Games like this already aren’t particularly common so to have such a large notable one come out swinging as online only really sucks.
I honestly feel DI is better
Plays EA beta with 16gb of ram: *ram usage 15.9gb until it stutters to death*
Buys 16gb more to enjoy open beta: *ram usage 32gb until rans out of memory*
great game 11/10
PoE 2 looks great, oh D4, sorry 😉
Diablo 4 will be a 10 year long dungeon grind. Prove me wrong
More gameplay, less face time please!
click bait
appreciate the WoW comparison, didnt know about the poor reviews on launch.
the POE players that try to shit on other ARPGs are such a set of boring dorks. POE aint even hard, its builds are just overly convoluted and the playerbase just watches some guide from a guy that has a PHD in the game. They ain’t special.
Almost 1 million 😀 been here since the beginning, well since D3 release
My 3 fav streamers/creators are ZiggyD, Force and Kripp… this video made me smile when you mentioned the other two guys.
If you haven’t watched ZiggyD and/or Kripp then go do it. They are two of the most chill, level-headed and entertaining guys to watch. No drama, no fake “personas” and no “hot takes”… just nice normal guys who make great content!
I don’t understand people who review early access and beta games… “Here’s half a product” and then complain when it seems unfinished…
All this proves is how toxic online “fans” can be. Empty vessels rattle the loudest.
Yeah, while gaming became overall worse due to all nifty underhanded tricks to keep audience in like loot boxes being found out gaming community tends tk be judgmental parroting what other have said to join the trend and profit from it in form of clout.
What’s crazy is how easily gamers forget EverQuest! Ever crack was better then WoW for me.
How clickbait you want the title?
i don’t hate it but i just waited 1 hour to get in played 5 minutes and exited the game. i don’t think it’s a bad game one bit but i am not 15 years old anymore. it’s the same old game with SLIGHT changes. the physics and gameplay are the same for the most part, your spells won’t leave holes in walls nor ground like you’d see in much more demanding games like battlefield bad company from 20 years ago or far cry 2. maybe in 2013 we will get much more realistic games, and people won’t say silly things like “graphics nor physics matter” because “gameplay” matters without realizing what gameplay actually means.
These Youtubers and their hyperboles for the clicks. “Everyone hates.” Not everyone.
I’m not playing d4 regardless of what everyone else says
All the other problems aside, I think my big issue is with Itemization and the display thereof. All main items should have Main Stat + Vitality, or the ability to reroll a stat to one of the two to make up for a missed stat. Also, Main Stat and Vitality should be listed at the top of the list, not mixed in with everything else. They should be gimmies, not rolled into the stat list with everything else. The current itemization system feels alien and wrong in a Post D3 world, and the inability to reroll stats feels like a huge misstep.
Why ppl are always put Blizzard and innovation in the same sentence. I’m playing Blizzard games from D2 release and Blizzard never innovated. They pick best from every game and polish it in the Blizzard way ( at least for the old blizzard)
Nope looks like a 8-9/10 game.
Great post . POE is a sleeper of a RPG . I played it for a bit after BDO. I played BDO forever!!
These people are spending money and time to play a game they hate freaking mental 😂
I think theory crafting is a major part in arpg. People like making unique builds and showing them off. If it’s to easy and everyone is the exact same build with each class. You Don’t feel not satisfied. Most with transition back to Poe or something else. It can be basic but also need have some build diversity.
I’d give the game 7/10 right now, and I’d expect that number to go up once they update a few things.
bro fonts are important especially when you reading tiny ass letters for hours
it looks more like Diablo 3.5
Maybe you hate D4 but other ppls like me we really like it so pls stop crying and go Play d2r…
I find it hilarious that people that play D2 since release (like I have) call out other games as “repetitive”. D2 was by far the most repetitive game I’ve ever played lol
I get it and yes it is a game with potential but lets not forget that there is a game called POE and the diablo 4 it moves in many aspects from d3 and it lands somewhere in the middle of poe and d3. I think when both POE2 and D4 will be launched and 1-2 seasons in we will be in position to give the crown. The End game will play a major role and the season system and content of d3 vs poe is a joke. So I lean more to POE2 to be the winner again because they are going to put more effort and Diablo is owned by Blizzard that would like to see crazy returns to invest into real content.
This has to be some kind of bait because d4 is amazing
Didn’t know that the monster level and difficulty increases as you level up; that’s is such a bad thing to do, especially in 2023. Terrible system. I should feel more powerful as I level up, not weaker. Yikes. That system needs to change.
Wut
Blizzard is a shambling corpse, only being kept alive by it’s ever shrinking player base. It’s lost touch with what once made it’s games great. They lack innovation, vision and direction. They don’t care about their customers and care even less for their own employees. I don’t understand why people still support them.
My biggest problem with D4 is probably Blizzard’s unimaginable greed:
– The game costs 70€ in my region, it’s digital only and always online. (RIP game preservation…)
– The game has in-game store that sells cosmetics…for now. I can predict that there will be P2W mechanics in the future, or at least P4C items sold at store, because why not, people buy them.
– The game also has a Battle Pass system, which I absolutely hate. But since some idiots keep throwing money at these FOMO -system, of course Blizzard has to include on in D4 as well.
– From what I’ve understood the expansions aren’t going to be free, despite how many layers of monetization the game already has… just… why? (correct me if I’m wrong with this one)
From what I’ve heard from content creators the game itself seems to be decent, but its the excessive monetization that ruins all anticipation for me.
Hey we need mouse and keyboard support on console. If its cross platform point and click will always outdue controller. Not such a big deal in PvM but if they plan on adding competive PvP we all know controllers dont cut it..
Imagine a game with Diablo 4 graphics and combat, PoE endgame + leagues/ideas, Last Epoch crafting and… Diablo 3 Real Money Auction House 😀 I’ll never understand the hate for it – Diablo 2 has pay to win forums since day 1, and somehow people don’t care about it.
Well wow is still awful. I don’t play it
Its good they can provide more sophisticated criticism that someone like me can’t articulate, or even notice. I suppose there’s a reason why Rotten Tomatoes has a critic score, and audience score, and the two are seldom aligned.
My only hope is that this is still the first zone and early game leveling. I mean, if I just based opinions on what is effectively the tutoiral area of any game it would come up lacking compared to fully released titles with years of expansions and content updates.
That’s awesome! dedicated channel to d4. I used to watch your content years ago and I listened to every single podcast on my bran new fire tablet with jesse pre d3. You guys talked about real money auction house etc.. glad you are excited about diablo again.
Sat in the queue for 45 minutes just for it to say I was not logged in and now I am waiting an hour
I think the thing that pisses me off the most is that I am STILL SURPRISED to see a queue for a beta in 2023
holy fck these complaints are what i expected from spoiled gamers lol I swear I cant wait to play it today. People here probably have not played PoE lol
Blizzard seem to have changed into a company that does great graphics and gameplay, but lacks depth and design ingenuity. For me, I probably would still buy this game if lost ark hasn’t come to the west.
d4=immortal
It’s 7/10 at best. $70+abusive cash shop is just not ok. Game is serviceable to get you to the point of buying skins.
dungeon is what i freakin hate… i have to walk all the way to back n forw just to find the dumb little fallen hiding in the corner for the boss room to open….
Yes, they are purposefully negative-scaling you to the world and making you reliant on item drops to groom you for microtransactions and season passes…
52 mins just to queue for a login that’s just unacceptable
It’s an uninspired ARPG with amazing art. So sad =(
Glad to hear about the new channel. ***subscribed***
I’m nöt impressed with höw D4 currently lööks sö nöt planing tö get it. As far as im cöncerned D2 was the last real Diablö game. As that was the last öne made with the öriginal team. Later games are Diablö in name önly.
Lol game is pretty good. Loving it so far. This video title really goes a certain way….
Listening to a Diablo developers from Blizzard on YouTube a few weeks ago, I stunned to listen to them speak about supporting this game for years to come, the impression I got from this statement was the game is not fully built out, not fully scripted and would be taking players interaction when it comes to future enhancements, and story progression.
Problem with this is, if you don’t sell enough units of the game, this will limit any future DLCs, before long this game will be unsupported, Blizzard have a history of dumping support long before the revenue streams dry up.
Personally I think what we have been give in Diablo 4 is the best we are going to get from blizzard, it will not achieve $40 million at launch and it will not achieve $250 + million in a 3 year lifecycle, this game will be in the bargain bucket before November this year.
I don’t hate the game, but I will never play it either.😂
the darker , grimer and more cruel ambiant of the game is a big win in my opinion , the story telling is nice and some character story is just damn good ( im looking at you Vigo ) the world feel more alive and there is more emotion behind character dialog/quest
the gameplay feel great and i cant wait to see more of it
The title of this video confuses me. Most of the creators I follow had overwhelmingly positive takes on the game 🤷♂️
watching this video listening to him talk about waiting in the queue, whilst Im waiting in the queue
D4 is all about end game its hard to judge the game at level 25 and once the honeymoon phases ends and the game has been out for a while I doubt there will be as much replayability. That’s what we really have to focus on. Sure the game might be fun now but of course its fun because its a new Diablo game… Wait a month or 2 after release and it will probably feel like D3.
3:45 “But at the same time, I wonder if much of it matters to a majority of players.”
Let me stop you right there. Who gives a fuck what the ‘majority’ of players think, feel or care about? I’m interested in individual opinions that are well thought out and reasoned, from a place of experience, not normie kneejerk reactions and “feels”. Notice how your arguments for this position are just first impressions, that will likely fade with time? Or be upended completely as you become dissatisfied with some mechanics, whose arguments against YOU yourself admitted were well-reasoned. You’re very much arguing for the NOW, instead of a year, five years or even ten years down the line. It’s short-sighted and immature.
You’re basically making an argument for serving the lowest common denominator, and I reject that notion wholeheartedly. In this sentence your sentiment is basically this: “As long as most people are pleased, maybe that’s good enough.”
This is the EXACT mentality that fueled the degradation from D2 to D3. It fueled the obliteration of Call of Duty as a franchise with any self-respect. It fueled changes to the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series that watered down its mechanics. It fueled the dumbing down of Skyrim from Oblivion’s more hard-edged RPG mechanics.
It’s the reason why mainstream movies are pretty shit right now. Marvel hasn’t churned out a decent film/show since Endgame (and I don’t count No Way Home, that’s Sony’s success). Star Wars has been mutilated in the name of “pleasing the average filmgoer”.
Stop arguing from the average. Stop arguing from first impressions and “vibes”. It’s not useful, and sometimes it can be destructive. They aren’t strong arguments.
Do you want a game that satisfies average players who will probably only play the game once anyway? Or do you want the best game possible? You can see with the success of the Dark Souls franchise that you can actually challenge the average player and be successful for it. “Aim high” should be the maxim of every game developer who wants to produce a work of depth, something that can last for DECADES like Diablo 2 has. You need to impress your core audience first and foremost. Everyone else, the normies, the streamers, the curious – they’ll come to play if they see that the game is worth their time.
I purchase, I play, I enjoy. ’nuff said
A game that has had up and down reviews throughout its development (including by Force), with a predatory financial model (as detailed by Force), made by arguably the most toxic game company to ever make a successful game ( #boycottblizzard ), is getting bad reviews even before it launches? I am SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked. Not that I’ll ever play another game by Blizzard anyway. Same old Blizzard, same old franchises…blah.
So glad your making the new channel so you avoid what happened to your channel after the launch of d3. been with your channel since the starcraft days. miss being force fed lol
I was bored to tears during the beta and cancelled my pre-order.
The only thing that is bothering me is the fact that the world is so detailed and beautiful but the loot font and colors really brings me out of it. I hope they offer an option to change it. Other than that, I love it.
the level scaling is definitely a hard pass on this game for me
It’s actually far better than I expected we won’t know till release how the rest falls.
It’s basically a remastered Diablo 1 and 2 lol but ridiculously price I could make a game like this alone in a couple of months.😂
How to be a game publisher: Make a game; Hire firms to comment they’re excited and will pre-order yada yada and shutdown constructive criticisms, Hire influencers to give good word to your game, profit.
I’m absolutely looking forward to Diablo 4. Me and I buddies had a blast playing the beta and although yes we came across some issues and glitches, overall it was fun and exciting and gave me a reason to look forward to its release! I don’t expect this game to be perfect at launch and do think it’s going to take a few patches to get it to the level of like a diablo 2 but I can see the potential in this game and I can see me spending hundreds if not thousands of hours playing diablo. Can’t wait for June!! Great job with the video. I’ve been waiting for you to comment on the beta xD.
It’s great. Period.
WOW is overrated, so does the diablo franchised. I guess blizzard fanboys deserved everything what the company did to their games, because they are just okay to consume mediocre contents or games that this company provides. You keep feeding them money, Bobby is loving it.
The thing is that WoW was meant to be the way it was, it was made to wider audience, when other MMOs, especially with penalties from death etc… were still quite a niche in compare to mass of the people who would play MMO in overall, so the people who were criticizing WoW were looking from perspective of people who loved, let it call “Hardcore” MMOs, but not from the perspective of people who would not like to play “Hardcore” MMOs like EVE for example or Ultima, Everquest, L2 (L2 was not released in west yet those days), but WoW covered the whole market, of players who may like MMOs, but were afraid or did not like to play Online games with penalties, with Diablo IV situation is kinda different, cos the games like DIV are not the rare thing on the market nowadays, unlike WoW, which as I remember was the first one who made MMO accessible to wider audience and to s.c. Casual players.
I dont care what other people think, people like to complain about anything. Im going to play it and decide for myself
It’s review bombing. This is the culture of media now, it’s “cool” to be a hipster and hate everything, and the more people that like it, the vocal minority will focus ever more on it to tear it down.
Also, Asmondgold has nearly no real cred, outside of his fan base. The dude plays both sides of every argument for max clicks and flooding the algorithm.
This is why all reviews and scores are more or less worthless and the format is obsolete.
When you explained how wow was hated by these random elitelist is exactly whats happening to D4. Like wow fixes need to be made and the game because the benchmark of what an MMO is supposed to be. Thats exactly how Diablo4 will do watch and see.
When I’m playing a game I’m not looking for a second job. I’m just chilling after work, games should be fun.
Honestly I got hella bored after a few hours of the beta. Nothing is new nothing is innovative.
My only concerns (outside of server stability) would be the lack of skills which limit build diversity/ experimentation and the monetisation.
I was annoyed af about the queues, as most of us were, but once in D4 is pretty much what I wanted and expected.
Who is everyone xd?
does everyone just bite off asmongold or what? yall making the same vids this dude does its getting crazy
A lot of what you say is good points, my biggest problem with d4 is they did so much right only to copy paste D3s itemization, bad luck protection and end game into D4. The one thing they needed to pull more inspiration from D2 and they dropped the ball. Being a lvl 15 sorc in full BIS stat rares is super lame, i was only missing pants i had bad blue ones. Guess what dropped? legendary pants? /yawn. The end game will be same as d3, play for 5 hours at max lvl and youl get all your pretty much BIS crap, then you farm 1% boring upgrades for the remainder. They need to make items exciting and rare instead they throw so much god damn loot at you i stopped picking it up just so the game got harder.
It s fun. Far from optimazed and needs a lot of work but it s fun.
I love how everyone sends messages to asmongold bc they know he’s gonna react 😂
Thousands of hours in PoE are telling me that ur brain gotta be rotting if u complain about “straight dungeons”. There is litteraly no reason to make end-game mechanic very time consuming. Straight dungeon means u can just zoom it and not skip a thing. I know it’s only beta which have different pace than it will have later but let’s remember that we will have to run from one dung to another bcs of the “keys”. If it takes big amount of time to run between dungs AND just to complete one… ppl will lose their shit. This pattern is soothing and just heals u from voice behind ur head saying “u missed something”.
The real reason is the “don’t you have phones?” Meme. Bliztardfucktivision killed the franchise with it’s app. I refuse to participate in anything diablo related after DIII because the devs stopped caring about the franchise long before that meme became a thing. I’ll play DII and I’ll play DIII, that’s it. Even than I’ll pick up Victor Vran again or Torchlight III before going back to Diablo. Just like I’m no longer being a pawn for pownemon because we who bought those games all got duped again into thinking that Gamefreak would actually make a good game for the switch
I’m in no rush to play D4.
I’ll hold off for a bit and see how the game plays out.
You know whats funny? D4 dgs are like catacombs on Elden Ring, the so called GoTy of 2022. Unlock a door and fight boss.
Oh, and ER’s catacombs also had overused assets.
Most Blizzard games can be played for quite some time. The main concern for D4 is that it lacks depth akin to D3 where you play for a day or a few each season and that’s it.
Basically, criticisms mentioned are true so don’t buy the game if you care about those mentioned or buy the game if you dont care.
Diablo IV Look terrible i hate that 3D style its Look like some kinda shitty mobile rip off just cash grab from stupid fans
game is dope 9/10
True words Force , i 100%.
Everyone? Well, not me
Force, YOU sir, are a real one.
I think another issue the average gamer has is pricing. D4 is $70 and from my understanding it’s going to have a battlepass, and dlc purchases. While like Last Epoch is only $30 or something like PoE is free which I agree PoE feels way more daunting or overwhelming,
I don’t like the battle pass or that renown garbage that reminds me of immortal I don’t want to click claim like shitty mobile games or a pass with premium rewards. Gaaaaaaarbage
I agree some of the dungeons did get stale. But so far have been a huge improvement over D3.
D3 felt flat and I do like the level system.
Things I think could be changed.
Dodging. Needs a faster cool down. Bar none. If it needs to be a skill point. Done. But its needed for sure or more dodges. I like that some loot gives that. But it needs to be upgradeable. *Stares in sorcerer*
Next, i think having the belt system for potions would be nice again. But I know thats a far cry. (Potion crafting is pretty cool though, and useful)
Loot spawning seems really really level locked. Now that could have been tweaked for the closed beta. But you get lots of gem drops when you suddenly get the mission for gem combining.
Rares and legendaries for when you can break them down for aspects. Suddenly drop a lot more.
I think that was kind of odd.
Lastly, the auto targeting for ranged attacks. Sometimes would spaz and i would miss shots on a target or not fire, etc. That needs to be adjusted. To counter balance that with my basic and core skills. I basically just spammed hydra and flame wall. But with firebolt stacking that burning damage is super important with fireball. 😢Melee attacks too sometimes. I feel when approaching a target. Barb would stand there then attack after a moment.
You do not have to wait and see what the end game progression is there was leaked endgame and they have talked about it already. It will be marginally better than d3’s end game progression.
the game needs a lot of work, I played the beta and its rough around the edges and some UI elements make no sense and were better even in Diablo 3. I just hope they can address them before release.
Anyone else here beside me have graphic glitch UI /no UI on PC? I cant play the game thanks to this issue. Anyone know any fix to it? I heard lowering the shadows could help. Im using RTX 3080 with the March 23 GPU driver
Most betas spend a year in development, and to be honest with only 3 months to go I hate to say, but the game is almost done.. pretty much get what your seeing..
Sooo…it sounds like we’re just gonna get Diablo 🤷🏻♂️which I’m perfectly fine with
StarCraft to C&C??? More palatable for the masses? Maybe the most ignorant take I’ve ever heard. Clearly you haven’t played the game.
GENTS its in beta. Like comon Rofl. And its really good for a beta.
The new ryker!!!
Yeah…its blizzard… veterans know it’ll be a bad game by design alone… they’re not good at making good games right off the bat…it takes sometimes years for them to fully polish a game…
When I hear all the crying…I start to wonder…why? Is the Diablo 4 Ui that bad? Is POE or grim dawn or last epoch ui that much better? The answer is probably no lol. So why are they crying about it?
lol i cant like it or dislike it as i have sat in two 30 minute queues and now im in a 42 minute- as i have timed out twice, the first time i got all the way through character customization…
His just saying this to divert people from playing D4 to reduce the amount of people playing online. Faq up video, selfish
I’m total noob when it comes to ARPGs this is looking so good I’ve never played any diablo
My thought was, I still want to play D4. But I wonder if by the time I’m done with it, I’ll have any desire to play D5.
correction, it’s 160k on steam but the game has a standalone version that obviously doesn’t count for steam numbers
As another MMO player who was absolutely addicted to WoW, the MMO aspect doesn’t get me excited for D4. It actually has me more worried than anything else. The idea of a shared world and interacting with random people to do content sounds neat in theory, but I know from experience that if you don’t play during peak hours, you’re going to suffer from a lack of players. Besides, when I play an ARPG, I want to be able to just zone out and play. If I wanted to play an MMO, I’d play an MMO. Also, the combat looks slow to me – your footage here has been the most exciting I’ve seen the game look so far, though I haven’t really been keeping track of the game, and I will say it’s a very pretty game, but most of the footage I’ve seen has had like 3 enemies on screen at any time and fighting them looked like it took as long as fighting rare mobs in other games. Compared to say Lost Epoch, which I picked up just 2 days ago and already have 18 hours in, even though I’m not really an ARPG player. I was hooked right away because I felt powerful right from level 1 and the various power systems in that game feel fun and exciting.
What concerns me the most though isn’t the kind of stuff that a beta can show off. D4 is a $70 game, that we know already will have an ingame store and battlepasses, with multiple currencies (meaning at least one that can only be bought with real money). It all sounds like Lost Exile, which is free to play, not $70. Battlepasses are an immediate red flag for me, as they’re designed to hook into that part of your brain that doesn’t want to miss out on stuff in order to keep you logging in every day. Especially now that you generally pay for a fast track, which is just paying extra money upfront in order to work a second job. Plus, what they’ve said about the store is exactly what they said about Diablo Immortal’s store, and they even went so far as having a store like that for review copies, only to switch it out for the full mobile cash grab store on launch.
Over the years I’ve learned not to trust what a game company says before a game releases, and I hope I’m wrong and D4 turns out to be the game everybody’s been waiting for, but it’s going to take a really good game for me to reinstall Battlenet after all these years and all the scummy things Blizzard has done, and right now D4 does not look like it.
I mean, WOW, really was a dumbed down iteration of the MMO genre. Nevertheless, it was perhaps that very fact that made it popular with so many. However, due to its success, every new MMO followed in WOWs footsteps, making it difficult to find a non instanced “real MMO” to play.
I don’t want to hear cats saying the dungeons are repetitive if they have 10 billion Mephisto runs under their belt. They don’t actually give a fuck about repetition…
Played the beta, and it felt pretty dated. Really does feel like a 3.5
these arguments for the casuals make no sense. you can have a deep game thats approachable for normies. Diablo 2 proved this.
That insight about WoW being frowned upon in early beta days is so interesting, never knew that. Like Force said, seems to be a similar case here. I’m a very casual gamer and really enjoyed the beta, but more hardcore gamers seem to find it a bit lacking
I can see where some of the concerns are. But I feel like it is a bit early on some of the concerns. I think Blizzard nailed the important things here so far. It’s gonna be some time before we see how the end game feels. Hopefully if things need to be fixed Blizzard will listen to the constructive Criticism.
It’s ok when it works XD
ahaha. I had no idea there was level syncing…. it was a deal breaker with WoW and it is a deal breaker with this. Now I definitely have no interest in picking this game up. Thank you for saving me nearly 100 dollars!!
I dont think SC2 was a dumbed down version of anything; its one of higher skill ceiling RTS…
I liked the gameplay itself, the visuals, the music etc, all of that was good. Too bad the game kept crashing for me at least once an hour and even BSODing once. I know, I know, “it’s just a beta”, so hoping they can fix that in the 2 months they have till launch. Bu that is my take on D4 right now 🙁
one thing i cannot point out as to myself is it takes long time to grind games like this, i just dont have time to waste, cos you just sink into it and few dozens of hours is nothing lmao
in any case i wish they would be more open world maps instead you of being in a cage basically.
Lost ark map with PoE or Diablo playstyle and mechanics would be awesome ngl
everyone hates it but theres is an hour+ queue to play the beta
It’s because PoE nerds are pissed they still dont have PoE2 lmao. They are such salty cry babies. This videos been up for an hour and they are already disliking this video
i’ve yet to see a single creator rate it under a 5, which would make it average, so this title seems dishonest
I loved every second of the game I’ve been waiting on for over 10 yrs. The criticism has been all from content creators. The avg Diablo player is over the moon. I didn’t even have to wait nor did I get disconnected and I’m running 15mg internet.
Welcome to the internet!!!
The font complaints are valid not everyone has great eye sight and reading purposefully funky fonts makes it very hard to read anything
Everything I’ve seen has been positive. I played 10 hours and liked it. This is a beta folks, and if you know how games as a service works, it will get better as it goes. Difficulty was a little low, but they can turn the knob.
I love it already. Remember they get attention for putting out something negative about it
Agreed with part of what you’re saying. It’s about expectations. Blizzard is in it for big profits so selling more to the casuals is better. Naturally presentation and graphics are key while longterm depth and content will take a backseat.
You should compare Path of Exile concurrent numbers 130k vs Diablo 3 concurrent numbers 13k for a fair assessment as they’re about the same age. Which should be a bit worrisome as D4 is all in on the live service/MMO part.
I’d have to agree with the negative criticism D4 is getting though. There doesn’t seem to be enough content and depth to the system to keep players. Since it’s so close to the release, there won’t be much changes in the end game. It’s shaping to be a game where you beat the campaign and quit. IMO games should really cater to the hardcore, yet be accessible enough for the casuals. Hardcore players will stay and casuals will move on to the next big game.
D4 will sell well, then it’ll be a ghost town after 3-4months.
I’m a PC player but will probably end up buying D4 for the PS5 where my son and I make use of the couch CO-OP feature.
Its like a mobile clone of immortal to me, almost cut and paste lvl. Disappointment is all I feel. It will have NO reply ability like d3 does , I still play that game to this day. Can you honestly say the same for d4 ?
You mean only the people bitching and complaining because it ain’t like the previous Diablos?
Watching streamers play the beta … i find myself tempted to get the game .. but at the same time i remember it’s activision blizzard and i feel an equal if not stronger desire not to give them money.
D4 for the price asked will be crap.
$70 base game, disgusting
Thanks Force for vid
My only real
Complaint was the repetitive dungeons hope further acts expand them quite a bit. I get there are 20+ in just act 1 but I’m sorry you can’t call the 20 new different dungeons there is no difference between picking up a box putting it on a pedestal and picking up a petal and putting it on a pedestal….. and then painting the boss red that’s not a different dungeon lol. That being said had a blast playing regardless and am very much looking forward to the real release I do how every worry about the longevity of it but only time will tell and will need a lot more then a beta to find that out
It’s fairly trash. Consolized to the max.
Just like kripp said , I dont think most people realize how deep d4 is.
Honestly, if they just don’t completely scum it up with monetization it will be a pleasant surprise. All the small criticisms may not matter to casuals, but that doesn’t make them any less valid. It’s all just opinions. Plus Blizzard has conditioned all of us to expect their launches to be trash over the last few years.
Innovation and complexity??? That is too wide and too far reaching term…
Also about power scaling – some one with low item level and character level will get crappy low level gear and loot while high level and item level character level characters will get epic/legendary loot. Is it not logical then that higher rewared would require higher effort???
They don’t have to reinvent the wheel, they just have to make sure the wheel works.
It’s not great looking on console i expected it to lool better than spell force but it doesnt look like it to me 😅 POE is better and that’s 10 years old….
They’re simplifying the game for kids and consoles, it happened on cod too
I can not wait. Until WoW💩. Is as relevant, EverQuest 🤞.
Turok reboot 🤔🏹🦖
This games going to be around for 10 years… I’ll have a lot of time to get sick of it. defiantly after it’s on sale.
I think when you see Kripps review you can’t unsee it 😅
I have seen the complaints but overall they all said that the majority of the game is positive and I’m looking forward to full release after I played the closed beta
Path of Exile has its own launcher outside of Steam, so these numbers are not a true representation of the entire population or peak online players.
well i don’t pre order
but i have just tried this crap
after q-in for 1 hour and 10 mins
made a druid played for 3mins ERROR
now i got to Q again for 127mins
F@@K THAT
Hahaha I was into Final Fantasy XI when WOW released and remember all the discourse you brought up. Then 6 months later the servers were deserted, everyone had gone to WOW.
As a casual player, I played total of 22hr first beta that is 3hr waiting time included and I can say that I was very impressed how hooked it got me, I understand how some more serious players who care about all that META stuff can be disappointed and also understand that when some people criticize UI and HUD it means nothing to me personally cause it is just about the taste but again majority of people are casual players and imo game is always designed to be liked by majority not few extreme players. All I can agree on is that I would like some Randomly generated instances other than that it is 9/10 for me I also like loot alot.
D4 going deeper in the “casual” space than even 3 made me realize im no longer the target audience. And thats okay. Something else will be made that I like more. I just didnt really enjoy this and maybe the full game changes that. But if it doesnt oh well lol. End of an era for me.
People just jumping on hate wagon and review bombing everything
why can’t every content creator be level headed and formulate their own opinion, not the popular redditor opinion, like force does. Never change my guy
enemy scaling is complete facepalm for an arpg…
Font Styles Matter!
I’m glad you made this review because alot of people will follow those “big” reviewers and not play it or review bomb it because their content creator doesn’t like it. Keep up the vids 🤙🏽
Good lol
Until Kotick’s gone, Blizzard shouldn’t really have support, anyway.
Me and all my friends enjoyed it.
at least diablo could add another skill slot for the ultimates, cool down takes ages.
quite funny when you say supersede poe while not competing with it I’m trying to understand how a game can take the place of another game without competing with said game also the all time peak of poe was around 258k(since a lot pf ppl don’t play it on steam) and again that is player logged at the same time not number of player who logged in during the month like blizzard always do to inflate the number
and from what we’ve seen from the past if a blizzard game dont have a real potential at capitalize on all the player of that genre and eclipse other competitor the game will go crashing down real quick and be Abaddon by blizzard like hots that basically no one is playing like d3 witch is just dead while overmatch did great during its first few years it isn’t able with its current competitor and that is a trend that we see a lot lately when diablo need to be putting work on a game they’re unable to follow its competitor and just loose and abandons the game witch is why it is scary for the future of the game especially for a live service game at this point blizzard is just an overrated company that makes overrated games that last for a short times
welp at least it will help poe2 get more ppl in the genre if d4 is indeed bad
Well said, Force. I was surprised to see all the negative feedback on the forums and youtube about D4. I had such a great time playing the beta I couldn’t believe it. I’ve been playing Diablo since D2 (pre-LOD) and I found a lot of the comments to be so nit picky and not really a big deal to me as a casual gamer at a different stage of life than I was when I played D2. I had fun playing it and that’s what mattered.
I play fun games. D4 is a fun game. I couldn’t give one less heck about what any influencer says about it in terms of if I should play or not. I am not alone.
All of the problems with it are justified. The biggest video game company in the world gave us the installment of a game that built the genre. And it doesn’t push any boundaries. The talent tree is underwhelming, the graphics are underwhelming, the story is tedious and you’re constantly waiting for dialogue. The ‘massive amount of dungeons’ in act 1 are just all recolored and slightly switched around with frustrating mechanics. After all that, they copied the Diablo 3 itemization which was one of the worst parts of that game.
If this was released by an indie developer that didn’t have the reputation of Diablo to live up to then it would be received much better. But this is blizzard, they are supposed to be a cut above the rest and in the end are charging us $70 for a game which really just feels like it’s done because they can. We expected more, they let us down. Reviewers with ‘negative reviews’ are just being honest. Not to mention, the hi is clearly made for console and looks closest to Diablo immortal. Somehow a downgrade from d3.
While Blizzard might be attempting to get a larger audience the idea that simpler, easier to understand games are automatically going to sell more got completely destroyed by Elden Ring which is literally the opposite of most games constantly holding your hand and giving your quest markers all over the place. Even if people aren’t aware of it they quickly find there is a quality of its own when playing a game that treats you like an adult.
Fonts can matter if you dyslexic but it’s not a deal breaker for me. If something includes a dyslexic font I think “ oh that’s nice!” But I think other features like colorblind mode take priority
Consumers really need to be more lenient towards companies attempting to create something that can bring fun and entertainment for years. Instead try giving constructive feedback to help the devs change it in the best ways, instead of “it’s bad, don’t play” lmao. I had some of the most fun I’ve had in the beta, despite many flaws I saw
Classic Blizzard tainting their games with bad systems.
I honestly don’t know if I even want to play this.
I must live in a different timeline cause everyone I know likes it and all my friends and people in my social media bubble say things ranging from “It’s okay” to “I love it” and no one “hates” it 😛
I love how ppl are complaining about the dungeon variety in a beta…. that only allows you to get to lvl 25…and only allow you to do some of act 1… wtf did they expect?
How is FIFA, NBA, NFS, COD etc etc getting away with it – peeps requested D2 – then you give em D2 and they disappointed – companies should just do what the flark they wanna do and come up with something innovative – devs gotta deliver something that peeps did not know they actually would enjoy and love in tandem with what they did in fact expect – a good mix of these 2 factors – the surprise factor nowadays is the big thing – like the wind being used as a compass in Ghost of Tsushima; we all knew we gonna have a compass in some form or another but the wind being used to facilitate that was such a juicy surprise. Epic and refreshing.
Literally no one hates it but people who are attention seeking. 100% of my friends have loved it thus far.
The power scaling makes leveling up and getting equipment completely useless. And in ARPG leveling up and getting equipment is 80% of gameplay. I don’t know, man…
I couldn’t care less about any of these “criticisms.” It’s good, dumb fun. The end. That is literally the only thing I care about.
I mean the critiques are valid. But these creatora you mentioned just seemed to dismiss the game. All the while, they continue to repeatedly do the same content of their own games
I think you`re wrong about concurrent PoE players i think most people play on ggg client not through steam, so you see only part of people online there. And of course we are at the end of the current league.
I’m not a fan of mmos so my D4 interest is at minimum I’ll try OB but its so similar to Lost Arc and D3 two game I really don’t like in this genre so probably will stick with PoE.
Great vid Well its free this weekend so you decide.
The comparison to WoW is dumb. We’re a lot smarter now in terms of how we criticize games
the most popular games are almost never the best games. thats like saying taylor swift is the best at making music. Obviously not. Wow was a bad mmo, but it just appealed to normies.
Waited 22 mins at noon for que. Made character and tried to join game. Immediately crashed. Re join que, 37 mins later. Create character and game crashes. Now in que for 44 mins. So glad I took off work for this shit
As a father of 2 and only about 10 hours a week to play games, a dumbed down version of Diablo would be perfect for me. I just simply don’t have time to get into tiny little nuanced game mechanics. One reason why I haven’t gotten into PoE.
I’m an old f**ker.., and HATE that virtually every game nowdays just has to be online & multiplayer only.
I miss the days of just putting in the Diablo disk (or most any other game), and going straight to my single player world, and be playing within 5 minutes.
All this “queing up” for login sh*t sucks ass !!!!
Spend my hard earned dough on a game, then not being able to play it EXACTLY when I want, because of stupid server overloads, login delays, etc.
😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬
On contrary, Clickbaiters gonna make click bait videos 👎
PvP was the heart and soul of Diablo 2. It drove the in-game economy (the mechanics of which on their own were cool as hell), was the basis for many social interactions in the game, instilled fear in the sheep doing PvM (at least in hardcore mode), and drove a lot of the creativity in item and skill builds. I’m not saying PvP is necessarily superior to PvM. Both sprung out of a free environment that allowed users to build their own experience. But it’s part of what made the game so edgy, unpredictable, and replayable.
This idea is missing from later installments of Diablo (including probably this one). The new Blizzard sees this game as a mindless grindfest where the world has to be managed more closely by “knowing” game creators, not one where a passive system is put into place and letting the players themselves figure it all out.
The fact that you don’t even mention PvP in the first 10 minutes of your video is laughable and highlights what kind of bottom feeding element that Blizzard is now catering to.
The first queue I sat in was 36 mins long, I was able to watch the intro, create a character and after getting several timeouts when trying to create him I finally figured out I needed a different name. Then I just sat there and looked at my topless Sorcerer in his kilt for about 20 minutes as whatever was happening or not happening went on. Back to an hour wait now since that went no where.
Click bait title buddy! It’s a beta, droprates are fixed and so on. Take a chill pill
Thank you for not mentioning quin69 at the beginning of the video 😂
If i wanted to deal with always online bullshit, I’d go play Lost Ark.
Clearly Blizz is hell bent on not listening to it’s players.
As an average player, I basically dont care about most of the complaints Ive heard from high level D2 players who grind 16 hours a day. I also dont really care about a hook that keeps me players for 10 years. I will play for a bit, then come back for each season and play a bit again.
You missed a golden opportunity to say, “Also, I don’t give a flying FONT.” It was tee’d up. All you had to do was swing away. Son, I am disappoint.
Well, your title is blatantly untrue. The overwhelming majority of Diablo veterans genuinely enjoy the game. “I had fun playing the game. It felt great. Looks great. But everyone hates it.”
The most important aspect of Diablo is the itemization, period. It doesn’t matter if it looks great and feels great, if the itemization is boring, the game will get old quick. They flopped on the itemization in D3 and it looks like they’re repeating the same mistakes in D4.
I mean there is alot of bad things about it
I’m still waiting on full release reviews. What I’ve seen looks okay but it’s just that “okay”. Lost Ark was fun until I got to the end. All the gear was super boring unfortunately in that but many of the other aspects were fairly good additions to the genre. I had hoped maybe one of these games would’ve adopted the dual class system from Runes of Magic as It made for a lot more variety and character builds. I didn’t expect some dual class system in Diablo though mind you for it I just want them to give us back all classes from previous games.
Thats a nice sweater Force
No I don’t because I like 3 and diablo 2 I try just can’t nut I will go back to it later to give it the chance it deserve
Yes it’s trash
Damn force you got old brother.
Most of the people reviewing games, have literally been gamers for less than 10 years. I would take ALL reviews on youtube, with a grain of salt. Unless you know the person has deep rooted experience. If you’re in your early 20’s you shouldnt be reviewing anything. Because you don’t know shit. And not only that, but your generation is mentally retarded, so your opinions dont matter. When you think men are women and women are men.. I dont care what you have to say. LOL.
to be fair, the font is really terrible. You would think they could easily slam dunk that by just copying d2r font.
Power scaling is why I might not pre order. I want to feel powerful if I spend time playing.
The obvious problem, which people making money out of the game content refuse to see, is the fact that when the core mechanics are stupified to appeal for retards, the core audience always gets screwed. Sometimes even to a degree the whole fucking genre dies. You know, just like we saw happening with fps- and rts-games where only 0-skill BS is left.
no they don’t 😂😂😂 nice click bate tho. just because you hate it doesn’t mean you speak for all player base. and imagine hating a game based off a BETA 😂
I don’t hate D4
I don’t see the link to the new channel??
Wut? I have only seen positive reviews here in my country from the gaming websites. Everyone seems to be stoked for launch.
I like how the comments are filled with people shit talking the content creators that have criticisms of D4 that were mentioned in the video. Trying to come up with any stupid excuse as to why “their opinion doesn’t matter”. Very classy.
Great vid.
I am skipping beta due to ‘slight chance of bricking your GPU’ and memory error related crashes. I am not rich enough.
The people hating on it are still currently playing it so they can continue to hate all they want, doesn’t take away the fact they are in the beta as we speak lmfao.
You’re lame af dude.
I fucking love the game
I’ve had fun with it tbh
Thank you for speaking up while everyone else creates their echo chamber of negativity surrounding Blizzard
if they took all the best from other Arpg’s, wy didn’t they take the skill system from last epoch??? best skill system hands down.
I really enjoy it. Feels more like the sequel I expected Diablo 3 to be. Story and world is interesting. The design is absolutely fantastic. Systems feel complex without being overwhelming. The downside is the online always stuff. Server issues, getting kicked out and such. But I think its the best Diablo has been in a long while and I really liked the focus on worldbuilding, characters and story this time. I think it will be one of this years best games tbh. I also love that both Druid and Necromancer are in it this time at the start. Cant wait to play both in the open beta.
I’ve seen both hate and love. Seems ok.
Thank god POE is a thing. God bless gearbox games
Buying Diablo 4 is like buying a madden game…..You’d have to be the most braindead NPC in existence to care about something so soulless.
People love to hate on things, so it makes sense that most of the herds follow. 🐑
I don’t understand how you can review the game from the beta.
it feels cheap and im tired of running around aimlessly for no reason. like running around a diablo map just isnt fun.
Such a click bait title
People are wrongly judging the game like they finished already..
Very annoying.
Feedback is KEY but the game seems very nice!
Also POE took YEARS to be good.
But one thing I miss from Diablo 2 is HOW MANY SKILLS we had..I love having all sorts of abilities..I dont like enhancing them so much..
The only thing that matters with any game…..did….you….have….fun
Wow came out on top because its was stupid easy for normies and their marketing campaign. There were commercials everywhere for it feature famous people like William Shatner and Mr T. No other mmo has ever tried a marketing campaign like WoWs. It didnt come out on top because it was a good mmo.
It’s good that some creators are overly critical, it pushes the boundaries of what we can achieve, that’s what you would expect a consultant to do but they do it for free, props to them
I have been playing Diablo since the beta to the original diablo came out in the mid 90’s. I have been very impressed with D4. I think it is amazing. As good as I could have hoped for. I guess my tastes are abnormal I do not see a 4 out of 10 rating at all.
It’s like it’s in beta and still being tested…hmmmm strange.
lol stupid click bait titles ftl
While I do agree in general with Blizzard making comparison games for the masses, then Starcraft is not really in that area. In fact it was the opposite as C&C games are much easier to handle both in terms of micro and macro. Starcraft is way more tense and puts an extreme pressure on microing especially. The macro is important too, but sadly the macro is in many ways worse to handle comparing the Starcraft workers vs. Construction Queue in C&C.
So you complain that diablo 4 plays like diablo 2 …..it’s parfect to tell the truth …dunno what the complaints about
While a lot of those complaints are valid, never make a game based off of reddit/forum posts.
i hate clicking for everything less interactive
Soon you will simply have an AI quantum computer generated the exact game you want on demand…….
And then – no one will be happy
‘everyone’ do not Include me in your B.S
Vocal minorities that are driving controversy for clicks.
Game reviews no longer even matter
fake news lol
Diablo 4 is like this/feels lacking at the moment bc the cash shop is missing. Once they add MTX, it’ll all make sense.
Can I get a FUCK Blizzard?
I’m watching this while waiting in the queue lol
Is Diablo IV fun? In my opinion, yes. That’s what truly matters.
It’s actually the opposite
I want that channel bro please
Yea I dont think diablo 4 is going to be for the hardcore POE fans that like to use spreadsheets and stuff to figure out their builds. This is going to be more for a casual crowd that likes the idea of a ARPG or maybe a gateway to some of the other ones unless the endgame has a lot more complex systems. I dont necessarily think this is a bad thing though it will bring a more casual crowd to the space which isnt a bad thing imo.
I don’t even know how someone can review bomb the game when we’ve seen only 20% of it. I have a friend who was in closed testing for t he game, and he says there are whole systems absent from the closed and open beta weekends. We’re missing PVP, advancement passed veteran where the difficulty changes the zones drastically, paragon points, runes and sigils. They’re keeping allot of stuff *hidden* for the retail release.
“Ridge Wallet- Selling $10 card holders as $100 wallets since 1999.
Honestly why do you YouTubers keep pushing this Ass Seen on TV fucking dribble.”
-The comment I literally just posted on the last video I watched. Maybe Ridge should put more money into R&D and less on advertisement.
The anti-negativity circlejerk that happens with literally every single Blizzard release is super fucking annoying
I agree with all the other major concerns except for the mobs matching level. Not that I don’t understand the sentiment, I just feel in the long term it’s better that way. Maybe a happy medium would be it doesn’t match level until a certain level or maybe act 1 area doesn’t match on launch.
One point that MrLlamaSc is very critical of is the items in the inventory. They used to be much bigger and have different sizes in Diablo 1 and 2 but starting with d3 they are now all even sized and look tiny. At first I was dismissal of this critique but now I wholeheartedly agree. These items look uninteresting compared to what they look in d2 or dark and darker. They are too streamlined and all look similar. In d3 sometimes I don’t even look at what type of item it is, I just look at the color of the border and compare to whatever I have in the current slot and either right click or ctrl-click. We don’t look at the item designs anymore
Force StarCraft is going to be force diablo??
This is basically a blizzard fanboy refusing to take off his pink colored glasses when it comes to the company who makes this game. And considering how the other titles fare i dont feel presumptuous to say that this is to hopeful of a view towards a game that seems to be run of the mill new blizzard entry of their existing ips type of game that will have hype int he beginning but will die down rather quickly as blizzard does not adress the problems. Best example is WC3 Reforged or OW 2
atm I’m wondering what have they improved since Diablo 3… for now looks like its more of the same
The devs said the beta is not the current build of the game It’s an older version I don’t care what stupid YouTubers say I like the game I think it’s great
I’m tired of numbers and text.
Seriously we do not need numbers telling us the damage we do ; we only need the health bars and we’ll be able to tell well enough.
Numbers and text that tells us “dodge, absorbed, resisted” simply takes away from the game.
Sure in wow it worked because of the 3rd person view. But in an arpg where a lot of action happens at the same time, it’s not a good addition.
I intend to buy d4 but i hope i can disable all that text
i’ll wait for asmongold’s reaction
They can’t like it because they’re careers depend on it.
? Dude. Every other person I’ve listened to about Diablo 4 has been very positive. Who are you talking about? Even the Mighty Jingles who has no real love of Blizzard said it was pretty good.
I thought the “font theory” is more on consistency. So you can uniquely identify the ui and understand it and tell them apart
You ever get the feeling competition of billion dollar gaming companies deliberately attempt to create bad press of a game like Diablo IV, just to weaken the competition and make themselves look good?? It’s just another pile of shit we’re all subjected to by corporate con games.
It’s 69.99 for the base and yet they are going to treat it like a free to play game with battle passes no thanks that’s not for me
maybe if people shit all over d4 there is a reason? eh? kinda like blizzard didn’t hardly listen to any of their community? and only cares about making money… hrmm strange that all reviewers are saying the same stuff
I absolutely agree. When I played the d4 beta, I had a great time and thoroughly enjoyed exploring the world and was surprised to see to see some of the complaints. Many problems people had I didn’t notice at all, but once pointed out I might agree with most of the points but they just don’t make much difference for me to enjoying the game
Didnt stop playing for about 5 years straight. Like no work, no GF, no social life out side WOW. 5 years straight. Like jail but you have to feed yourself. I then dialed it down over the next 15 years to a point where I can now say I only play a healthy 10 hours a day.
I’m more of a RuneScape person
Outstanding cut on “font theory”! Lol
The player abilities and cinematics look awesome.
People just want something to hate… It can be anything, or anyone, they just want to hate
Not everyone just bunch of morons who can’t understand that this is not Diablo 2
The problem with the gaming community now, is that they do not know how to give constructive criticism a majority of the time. They just say something is “trash” or they bash the developers.
Your narrative is plenty of sense, speaking for myself when I played D1 it was utopia on my Rogue, a dream awaken, but this is emotional memories, trying to get that feel on an other game would be mistake as the other games are different and I too is different from that D1 moment. Anyway, why would someone live the same experience twice? The only things I repeat is what is repeatable… like a dungeon 😉
I dunno I played for a bit today, it’s solid. Definitely gonna buy it on release
The fonts are so bad. You literally spend your entire time playing staring at the text. It being a cause of argument around this game is a testament to the fact that when it’s done RIGHT, it’s not noticed at all.
Vanilla Diablo games have been the worst version. The expansion will be the version that will determine the longevity of D4.
Diablo IV from what I’ve seen so far is awful
Everyone Hates Diablo IV??? really? why? its not prefect but far from bad. the dungeons we see so far are bad but its the only problem i give the game so far. like we dotn know what items we see later on. we don’t know what dungeons as well
Everyone I know loves the game so far.
I’ve spoke to a friend who got in to the closed beta and these issues,especially dungeons still exist. I don’t know why people thought otherwise. The games ready to ship.
Diablo 4: Diablo 3 Version 2 with terrible UI and Immoral features from Diablo Immortal… 😏
Sounds like fanboying to me, dude. You’re tiptoeing around comparison like a gardener around thorns. You speak of PoE but mostly in relation to how “big’ it is, considering only how many players are currently playing without considering how many have… It’s just shilling at this point, I don’t think Blizzard is capable of anything ‘new’ anymore and this is just another testament to that. Anyway, best of luck with it!
Its just a mashup of Lost Ark and D3, totally uninteresting for me, specially with a pricetag of almost 100euro. 2023.. It just looks boring and plain and brings nothing new to the table. Ill wait a couple of seasons and see if they do something with it but Bliz isnt really doing anything fun these days. PoE2 and LE looks so much more interesting and PoE currently scratches all my wants and needs as it is.
I wanna zoom out like 5 or 10% more with my character during Combat. its minor but if i’m playing for years u want more Zoom control
I really gotta ask if some of the reviewers that hated it but love diablo played the same beta as me. I’m not going to act like it did any one thing that was crazy innovative but it was hyper polished and fun as fuck and we played 1 zone for a beta with no end game and all these people are just bombing it on things that will obviously improve at launch automatically. Besides that, it’s a beautiful game and feels FANTASTIC. (AS OF LEVEL 25 lol)
I think the complaints by the basement dwellers lacks perspective. I’m not talking about Force either. I think a lot of the people complaining think their opinions should matter. They don’t speak for me or others that grew up on D1 and D2.
Paying $70 for this is nowhere NEAR worth it.
Wow this game is garbage
There is a small error in the video, 158k all-time peak in PoE is only from Steam, there is also standalone PoE client and while i dont have current ratio few years back (~2019) Chris Wilson said in some podcast/interview that PC player base is split basically 50/50 between steam and standalone client, resulting in around 316k on PC
There are also consoles which i have no data for
My main concern isn’t even the gameplay. It’s the monetization. Which are never present in betas.
I’m guessing I’ll have to drop minimum $60 for the game which won’t include certain skins and what not, perhaps $100 for deluxe edition? Or pre-order edition? Also the game will probably have a battle pass and events to keep that FOMO going. Weren’t playing game at X time? Too bad you missed out on exclusive skins that will never get rerun. You must forever play the game non-stop or miss out on things.
Deciding factor for me will be if it’s a nice game I can hop on and play without the pressure of “gotta do my battle pass dailies” or “gotta grind this limited time event” because god knows there’s enough of that crap already and I’m sick of it. Just look at what they did with OW2. I’m not holding my breath though.
I have enjoyed most of the arpgs and Diablo IV has some good points, but my biggest issue is that D4 has intentionally built in limitations to cater to game consoles. Having such a limiting skill bar and a super simple skill tree means that anyone can jump in and play, but I think it hurts the long term model. As a console player, I buy a new game and play it for a few months, then it ends up being uninstalled for space, and I move on to the next shiny release. When it comes to an arpg with live service, you need those HC PC people to get the live service to survive. This might be a sort of bait and switch, get as many sales up and running as a casual game and then changing the game over the first year to keep the HC people coming back.
No one hates D4, it hasn’t come out yet.
Not to mention, it’s 2023, and it’s a top down game.
They complain about a beta where we can only play a fraction of the game? Combined IQ of those people can’t be very high.
Great review 👏 I turn 50 this year and have been gaming my whole life every console and PC I have my whole family a PC room and I have a full Arcade in my house so I have some experience. Me and the wife have played WoW from day one and I love playing POE even though my wife can’t stand it. But she will play diablo with me and that’s the magic of blizzard games easy and fun for all. I can’t wait for release! The only game I’m looking forward to more is Zelda 😊
A Diablo game thats repetitive….who would’ve expect that?? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🙏
It looks like a mobile game
the critizism are all valid.
The game looks like a resounding “meh” to me. I’ll probably get it if it ever goes on sale, but I’ve got Chaos Dwarfs to play soon, and can’t be assed to spend time and money on a middling Blizzard product.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, and people need to remember that it will be a LIVE service which means it will be worked on for years to come which means they can make it more innovative and complex in time they may be doing this to get more people into the world of arpgs
I like it. Nice click bait
Scaling is a pox on games… I want to wander too far and get fed my own innards. The thrill comes when I’m more powerful and I go back to give the gimps responsible a really bad final day.
It’s a beta. We have access to only super early game and 9 out of 150 dungeons. Modern gamers will never be happy. Unless it’s a complete masterpiece, they’re salty.
A lot of whining IMO. Yes some might be valid. But it’s based on 1 fifth of the game (20%) and things can always be changed. At least a lot of it over time.
I will reserve my judgement after I played open beta this weekend. I am also not a hardcore player, I play it Solo for casual fun. I don’t min-max and grind end game. When I finish the story and the general content I start a new class and then stop playing and come back when I feel I need some hack’n’slash again.
What if starwars changed the font? What if Mario changed the font? What if WoW changed the font? What if Sonic changed the font?
I won’t fault people for wanting to play a good game, I just am not willing to re-download the Blizzard Launcher to play a game when there are so many other options from companies that I don’t hate. And I mean, I can’t shake the feeling that no matter how it might be fine on launch… they are *guaranteed* to pull some shitty monetizing to ruin it at some point.
Enjoy the P2W and microtransactions. Anyone giving this company money deserves what is coming.
I stopped listening to MrLiberalSC opinion as soon as he started advising medical decisions to his viewers pushing big pharma.
Guess it depends from where you are, but WoW had zero hate over here during the beta. Sure the Everquest players thought it looked cartoonish but thats about it. Diablo 4 is just playing safe, ithink most people want Diablo to be the game that evolves the genre but so far Last Epoch seems far ahead there. Got bored during D4 beta and refunded, but i will try the druid this weekend and maybe in the future after a couple of seasons i will buy again.
Main issues with the game so far (except season pass, mtx and expansions):
1) The servers/network horrible, they should have prepared for this it’s not rocket science it just cost more.
2) Dreadful dungeon mechanics.
3) The horrible inventory/shop menus, it breaks any immersion. So out of place im not even sure anyone really took a look at it.
Fine that some love the game, but i feel a bit sad that the younger gamers missed the golden age when you could get a solid game from a big studio without all the hassle (well there is a few but pretty rare nowdays). All you wanted back then was the next expansion because the core was amazing. Today it’s more like.. maybe it will get fixed in two years 😀 crazy.
Im calling it, this gonna be the Destiny 2 for the Diablo franchise and for Activision/Blizzard.
Looking forward to your D4 channel, count me in!
Thank god i was able to refund my reorder!!!!! D4 was such a bore fest.
Uuuhm, I am not sure when PoE released on Steam, but 150k is not the total peak for sure (these are Steam-only numbers), since the game was and still is playable through GGG’s own client downloadable from their site, so I am sure many people don’t play through Steam at all.
The beta is already better than diablo 3 at launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfcvdEL-Woc
This is Force Gaming playing POE.
You welcome.
I’m so happy once this fucking game finally releases so all the fucking clickbait videos can stop.
Watching streamers, it looks extremely underwhelming for a 4th iteration of this formula.
Combo, rinse, repeat with few enemy mechanics to consider.
I didn’t even tried the game.. but 70 euros + battle pass + cash shop is already giving me red signals…
One caveat I will make with your wow comparison is that WOW was definitely aimed at a more accessible audience but it still did a whole lot to revolutionize the genre that no other game really did at the time. With it’s leveling and questing design and gating different stages in a theme park leveling style.
I watched one streamer just run the same dungeon over and over. Run dungeon, reset then do it again ad nauseum . Then he released a video complaining that the dungeons were to boring. Blows my mind.
There are concerns, but saying everyone hate it is exaggerated. Answer the comments sometimes please…
My biggest problem with it is that it just feels less good overall. It’s not bad it’s just not what I was expecting for a core diablo game.
Umm no. The vocal MINORITY hate Diablo IV. Everyone else is too busy playing the beta and enjoying it. You’re usually above clickbait.
First av heard of that
I totally understand the criticism but it’s crazy to me how much concern there is over such a small amount of the game we’ve actually seen. We basically know nothing about this game when the majority of what matters for the hardcore is the endgame. Which we know very little about. Combat Is great, game looks and performs well and the narrative is shaping up to be solid. I’m not really part of that hardcore arpg audience who wants all this complexity to every system but I do plan on playing Diablo 4 for hundreds of hrs so there is very much a hardcore part of me that hopes they do strike a solid balance of approachable yet deep and layered to the progression system. In the end as long as the loot chase keeps me hooked I’ll be hooked. This is a live serviced game that will definitely be evolving over time.
Clickbait title. Force you’re better than this.
Diablo is a bit of an old IP. Its fans now quite older…
But yeah the question is, do the changes made, make sense? Change nothing and it is a pure remaster, change too much and people complain.
Scratch that, people ALWAYS complain.
watching this while waiting on my 40 min que…. you are absolutely correct.
I had fun . I played to level 15 . I usually don’t like many games . I buy about everything and put it down pretty fast .I was still having fun and only stopped to wait for the full release .
I find funny how a lot people are judging Diablo IV based on the limited, buggy beta that only goes up to level 25, while simultaneously comparing it to Diablo III and Diablo II claiming those did it better. That’s like playing Act 1 of Diablo II and saying the whole game sucks. Until you reach max level and experience the endgame, it’s impossible to judge the whole game.
Personally? I liked the beta a lot. The atmosphere is amazing and feels like Diablo again (as opposed to the “WoW-lite” aesthetics that Diablo III and Immortal went for), the music is somber, melancholic and sets the tone just right (despite so far not being memorable like Diablo I and Diablo II) and combat feels good, very visceral yet being strategical, especially at boss fights.
My main peeve, however, is how they limited keybinds to only 6 skills, mostly to make it comfortable for PC and console players alike, though Diablo II Resurrected solved that issue by allowing controller players to swap between skill tabs with a shortcut, so there is no excuse to not bring that back for Diablo IV, in my opinion. I also have minor peeves with the talent trees and how swapping between builds is a bit of a hassle (they totally need to implement a loadout system like Diablo III had).
The only truly big concern I have regarding Diablo IV right now is how certain cutscenes (the one in the chapel and another one with another major character) were reportedly causing massive performance issues, and even GPUs to brick, namely the Gigabyte 3080ti, which reveals it’s more of a flaw in Gigabyte than the game being faulty (though it could be argued that the lack of proper optimization for the beta is causing GPUs to overheat).
I think Force speaks for most of us when it comes to the complaints 3:35
I havent heard anyone saying Diablo 4 is bad. This title confused me.
Hearthstone is nothing to magic lmao weakest comparison I have ever seen 😂😂😂
Usually no one ever has anything good to say but always a ton to complain with any game.
A lot of this hate is just zoomers probably. Honestly, this style of game looks and feels really dorky these days when everyone is so hip and nobody cares about heavy metal music, also belief in God or religious themes has never been less popular. Gameplay wise this game looks kinda primitive like a character seen from 3 miles high slashing millions of mobs in narrow dingy tunnels to get some text on the ground that has different colors, compared to a game like Fortnite where you see your character from 10 feet away, all of its face expressions and the world is expansive and cute to look at. I am sure that the narrow Xlennial audience this game is designed for will adore it and buy the game in spades once it releases.
D4 is fine. Better than most out there. Even as a LVL25 Beta. Which is the point in the end. It’s a beta. Not finished. Not complete. And people talk for hours about it critizing a product that we have to see yet in it’s full glory.
Just a waste of time.
WoW proved that graphics don’t matter much, gameplay is ultimately what decides if a game will be a hit or not. So for Diablo 4, we have a good graphical look, so gameplay… seems and feels pretty good but I agree with the other commenters that it does overall feel somewhat lacking. I do think it will do well, it is on the surface fun, but it seems more like a well funded good movie rather than a well funded epic movie. So worth the time and money but not going to be off the charts popular, IMO.
Disliking for the click bait title. I mean, it worked because I clicked in it, but have a dislike for the manipulation.
This game is amazing … people giving it bad reviews have no idea how great this game becomes at lvl 50-100
It’s bothers me when people review a game when they have basically only played the tutorial to lvl 25
I had a great time playing the beta
They are smoking hunters crack if they think I’ll pay even half of the price they want.
Holy mother of fuck. The enemies scale to your level? And nobody thought to mention it never mind rage about it?
Theres’s nothing wrong with diablo 4, that cannot be fixed in patches.
its not like it fundamentally just sucks. its small things.
Graphics are great. combat feels great. sound is great, etc etc.
but… font? FONT? Who the hell complains about the font, like it really matters?
Llama.. sigh. you silly man.
I don’t hate Diablo 4. so good
They complained about the exocet font? They cannot be real diablo fans then.
None of these things make me less likely to play the game and enjoy it. I think it’s really hard to tell how things will go at max level
Blizzard’s ‘fans’ are a toxic cesspool.
No matter what product Blizz gave us, they would complain.
Personally I loved every minute and its exactly what I wanted. Are there flaws? Sure, but the state of the game compared to beta Diablo 3 LOL, its not even the same universe. D4 is going to be epic.
Don’t worry nerds, the monetization will be super deep.
Good points here. I’m tentatively excited for the story but won’t be playing it. I’m very happy with how they’ve been handling D2R so don’t have a lot riding on the success of D4, but if others enjoy good for them.
Yeah gueues 40 minutes, fuq it 1/10 can’t even play xD
I dont like activision blizzard and I remember diablo immortal still. so imma just skip this one and play some of the many many many games that I have been playing or sleeping on instead.
Force is the only game reviewer I will ever watch
Same classes, same skills, but worse, I was hoping for more but that’s just blizzard of 2023.
Excellent point! Will play it this weekend and decide for myself, plus let’s not forget PoE was nowhere near the game it is now when it came out. This will evolve and only get better.
I think alot of the purists idea of Diablo 4 is more like the POE structure of ARPG. and honestly im so glad diablo 4 is not that. POE is so old and convoluted in its systems that its extremely hard for new players to pick up and play.Even the upcoming POE 2 isnt a new game, its just more piled on top of what already exists making it even more complicated which makes 0 sense from a game development standpoint. I get that vet players want challenge and all that crazy unnecessary depth, But its 2023. i shouldnt need a book of revelations to figure out how to play a game.
Whatever u smoking bro just ditch it before it’s too late.
Clickbait
Diablo 3 was the only game my then GF would sit down and get really into with me. My now wife is really looking forward to this. She doesn’t give a damn about any of these complaints even though I do. Its fun I can play something like this with her casually. I don’t know if that’s the lane they are trying to get into, but I’m happy they are there.
I dunno I really liked D4 beta. I logged about 40+ hrs. last time loved every min.
ARPG’s are my favourite style of game and playing Diablo franchise since ~2002. If Diablo copied what PoE is doing I would not play it all. PoE is exhausting, not particularly fun following build guilds to the exact letter and if you do not, you get destroyed. So I am glad it’s a simplified version of an ARPG. I do recognize that endgame is extremely important for re-playability though.
15:59 shakes his head no while saying “I have every intention to keep playing going forward”. Anyway, reviews have been awful but I still want to try it out someday.
Wey I’m the 69th subscriber
As someone who played this fully last weekend, and will do so this weekend as well, I can’t say it’s anywhere near as bad as some folks are saying. I think folks need to stop having super high expectations, for this and other games. I came in with zero expectations and am not really disappointed, other than the periodic slowdown in dungeons, which is weird as I have a very powerful computer – must be Blizz’s servers. It’s a BETA – Chilax. Even if it’s released very closely to what it is now, Blizz will adjust and update it.
I agree … Very little innovation… I’m not seeing anything new… It’s just a polished diablo 3 … A cash cow…. It’s like Dynasty warriors or Pokemon Gold /Platinum/silver etc.. if you played one you’ve played them All
wtf is this clickbait title? most feedback has been generally positive except for repetitive dungeons (true) and very basic itemization (true). A few other super minor gripes ppl have like UI, fonts, etc. cmon. most people are enjoying the beta and the game looks like it should be pretty solid.
Asmond just parrots other people’s opinion. He word is worth shit
my boy asmon <3
For a modern ARPG it’s almost EXACTLY a 5/10, 50%, just as many pros as cons
Hopium? or maybe copium?
Bruh I thought I am the only one… It felt sooo boring playing Diablo 4 Beta last week. Instantly canceled my order.
Eh, people are are never satisfied by anything nowadays. I don’t take much of anything seriously.
There’s always some excel tryhard spending a month in a spreadsheet and then two hours in game, coming out with ‘Oh, well, if I don’t get the adequate chill-to-freeze coefficient based on a proc chance at 0.425% then I can’t hit maximal ClungeGargler harvesting efficiency’ and everybody else just wants them to shut the fuck up and touch grass.
Most reception has been positive 😅
personally i always wanted diablo to have many more skills and builds to utilize. The tree is lackluster
F Diablo, F Activision/Blizzard Enjoy your money extraction device…suckers.
MMO fans from that time are STILL UNIMPRESSED. A TRASH GAME APPEALING TO THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR AND DESTROYING MMO GENRE FOR TWENTY FUCKING YEARS. GOD I HATE WOW
Still trying to figure out why anyone is ‘rating’ or ‘reviewing’ a demo / beta.
It will be great launch but it doesn’t have that much of depth
I can’t remember a game coming out that first reports on it were “it’s horrible”, but then again dropping $60 for a game isn’t a huge deal to me so if I was younger or had less disposable income, maybe I’d pay more attention. I’m getting D4, bad reviews or not. I’ll get my “60 to 100” worth out of it.
That’s my main issue with fan or gamer reviews. If you check metacritic most reviews by users are either 10’s or 1’s for most games. Some people will give a more nuanced review. Bust the general public go for the extremes.
Glad you mentioned that survival game. I ask about it and I was thinking people forgot about it lol.
Good stuff Force! Diablo 3 sold 30 million copies and 20 million just on PC and is the #4 selling PC game of all time. There’s going to be literally tens of millions of people that play Diablo 4 casually, maybe never even reach level cap, maybe reach it once, kill the last boss, and move on to another game. They can’t make the game around 100,000 ultra hardcore fans that are going to play it for 1,000 hours or it won’t appeal to those other 20 million as much. People complain about WoW being balanced around MDI and Mythic world-firsts, but then they want Diablo to make the same mistake.
One thing I noticed was that I missed the crafting, trade system and the pvp that New world offered as well as a house that I can customize. The pvp will release after launch which I anticipate but that’s just one of the four systems.
I knew it!
Exactly why I didn’t buy into the hype.
Whew.
Dumb clickbait title. Good video.
D4 will be the best for sure… give it just 6 months from launch.. it will only improve
Pathofexile is arcade game. D4 is more precise
I fully expect the “complexity” of the game to be more present in the endgame; Blizzard seems to have left the idea of “challenge” during the leveling process, kind of like in WoW. Me personally, I prefer that, but I know there are some who want a more robust leveling experience.
No we dont
i hope asmondgold reviews this review of reviews.
4/10….this game not like d2 or PoE🤔
Everyone doesn’t hate D4 lololol not even close.
I love all the creators named, but I see it like this: if they do not like it and do not focus on it, that gives room for new people to rise to the top to cover the game. So at the end, if you like the game, play it, if you do not like it, don’t.
“Everyone hates Diablo IV”
No shit, if immortal wasn’t a red flag then idk what is. Just give up on the blizzard. Faith is gone, and you should accept that it will stay gone forever.
D4 should have been defining moment for ARPGs but it seems more likely that PoE will be the driver for any future ARPG development
From what I’ve seen, most people actually like D4 overall. Even Diablo content creators, such as Dbrunski125, Rhykker, and Zizaran overall enjoyed it. Then Mrllama is great for D2 content, but he will never enjoy other Diablo games. He had a recent video where he played D4 and just incessantly complained the whole time, not even giving constructive criticism. He’s one creator I suggest people avoid for anything D4 related. He’s a good dude, but extremely bias. It’s unrealistic to want every ARPG to be exactly like D2, that game is an iconic classic, but it’s over 20 years old.
I really like D4 overall, yet some things do need improving. Such as more diverse dungeon layouts, more complex itemization, and WASD support.
Lmao everyone hates diablo 4. The click bait is real af.
Diablo fans like it. ARPG fans dont. I thought it was incredibly mid but will be fine for diablo/story fans. For anyone whos coming from the PoE this game will get stale fast.
I just want more characters. I miss the witch doctor
Been rocking with Force since the Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer days. Will be cool to see your D4 content. Much like you, i KNOW i will be playing and enjoying this game regardless.. See ya in the fields… of… Sancutary.. ..lol
D2 fanboys stuck in the past. How do they criticize dungeon layouts and back tracking when d2 is full of it? To the point that most try to get teleport on all their characters to skip it.
Hypocrites
at best it’s a 7/10
it will still be fun… but it feels like a 1 and done game
I love it so far.
for the level scaling, there’s a simple solution
they could’ve simply set a minimum level for each zone/area for each mob/mob type
that way you won’t see a lv 5 beating your end game boss while you’re 100 struggling to beat its summons
I think you are right on point with this opinion. Thanks for the video. m/
I thought it was great. My first thought was that it felt like a Diablo version of an MMO like ESO, which doesn’t bother me at all. I don’t really understand the repetative complaint coming from people who do 1000 runs of the Pit in D2…
Can’t wait for Asmongold to react to this 🙂
Beta was a blast
d4 is not a bad game, its just uninspiring, more of the same with a bit darker graphics, easy money tactics
d4 is ok and i spent my 100 pre on it, but its not much different from wolcen or a free to play game.
i will play my spent money on it….
disappointed, yes!
People want to use Diablo 4 to gain followers and viewers to stream and gain money, this D4 looks, plays and feels more like Diablo 1, I was there playing the demo for thousands of hours, this feels the same, I don’t care about “best builds”, just have fun like Diablo 1 (nobody is talking about story gameplay, “D3 fans” are rushing the game to end gear….) lol, great but we don’t care, this BETA feels and play great, lets see how good or bad it is (though it feels like a finished product that for the price seems more than ok).
Yeah wining 15 min. about the fonts of the game — is not valid sorry. Lot of “creators” just are worryed not to cut it and loosing viewers. A game that is build arround seasons for example WONT get crazy new ideas for rpgs in the base game. It would be silly to have new potantial good or very bad systems in the BASE game… These ideas are for seasonal content. Because you than have always the option of killing it after 3 month ot getting it in the basegame. — DAAA
I enjoy watching others review of games in general… but for major titles such as Diablo 4 – I’ll make my own mind up thank you. I enjoyed all of the Diablo games, the OG Diablo, D2, and D3… I will absolutely play Diablo 4 and I’m sure all of the folks smashing on it now will also be playing… :p
I’m not buying the game until we’ve had enough time for Blizzard to launch some shitty post release microtransactions and for us to see what a season will be like
Clickbait
Also its blowing up 3080 graphics cards like new world did. Overall i’m glad after playing the beta that i didn’t buy the game i feel like its lifespan will be much shorter then previous diabo’s which lets be honest while the community may love diablo has never really gotten its fair share or expansions or support. My biggest issue was how clunky the UI feels since they tried to make it cross platform and i feel like most the basic dungeon/feel of the game is due to them having to make it console and pc supported.
Looking forward to your D4 channel, just subbed.
best reviewed games of 2022 according to metacritic
elden ring (not revolutionary, an itteration on previous souls games)
persona 5 royal (not revolutionary, an itteration on previous persona games)
god of war ragnarok (not revolutionary, an itteration on previous god of war games)
cuphead in the delicious last course (not revolutionary, an itteration on previous cuphead games)
I was a teenage exocolonist (kind of a strange combination, in that it’s a deck builder and an rpg game, but nothing revolutionary in either genre)
Rogue Legacy 2 (not revolutionary, an itteration on previous rogue legacy games)
Seeing a pattern? Video game talking heads like to talk about how everything needs to be some never before seen creative take on gaming, but sales and reviews have shown for YEARS that the industry is itterative. We’ve been making and playing video games for decades, there’s not all that much “new” ground to cover. You iterate on what was new, and refine the ever loving shit out of it and viola, you get good games. Originality is VASTLY overrated.
It’s a wait and see for me. If I were to be asked to judge PoE based on the first 25 levels, which would be around mid act2, then I’d say it’s poor. 10k hours played on it because the fun part comes well beyond level 25. I think it would be foolish to think any different of D4.
I have my concerns, build diversity being the main one, but we’ll see.
I think people expected it to be groundbreaking. It’s not. It’s fun to play, but I don’t see myself putting in more than a few runs through the story and maybe leveling up into the highest difficulty tier. But i don’t expect it to consume hundreds of hours of my time like D2 did. Full disclosure: I hate D3. It’s the opposite of what I expected/wanted.
Not gonna play it until at least a month post launch, especially so I can see the post-launch monetisation.
Lol u actually listed the most cringy utube creators… u just lost my respect. Funny u say this cause the discords im in it has a very positive review. The only people complaining are those who think theyrenopinions should matter… u just lost a sub.
Clickbait?!!! Do you take in consideration the 0.1% or even less of the community that is streaming or giving feedback via YouTube as example and SAY that a game is so negative? SHAME ON YOU…
Diablo 4 is going to be solid to many harsh opinions on a unfinished product
Rule of thumb… Don’t go anywhere near a company that has been investigated for over 2 years by a federal agency
The problems it has are fixable but the possible monetization problems, knowing blizzard might not be, but we won’t know until fall release if they are or what they are
I’m something mixed on the game
yes but old Bllizard >>>>modern Bllizard …. OW2 immortal show us how the games from modern Bllizard works now.
My friends who aren’t interested in trying POE, or tried it and bounced off of it, are jumping in to Diablo 4. If D4 can capture that mercurial mix of easy to play and still engaging, much like PUBG did for mil-shooters, then my group of gamer friends will be eaten up by it. Personally, I loved the beta last weekend. I’ve played a ton of ARPGs and this seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.
And a second channel, don’t you mean a third? Still waiting on a new video for your outdoor/exercise channel 😀
If I had to mention one thing I disliked about it, its the basic dungeons and quests . . . .after lost ark with all that camera and cuscene jazz, I hoped blizzard would do something similar (since a lost ark like story and storytelling with diablo 4 class system would be perfect)
I played the beta for about 30 minutes and said to myself “im going to play the crap out of this” so i uninstalled and now i’m pleasantly waiting for the release so i can dive back in and enjoy it fresh 🙂
its like people dont understand the leveling vs the end game *SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE*, its legit lvl 25 sim… the leveling scaling isnt even a problem.. the dump truck nerd elitist need to simmer down lol
Great video, I’m glad you touched on this subject. I understand where people are coming from. But it just seems like it’s way too much.
Generally I had fun in the last beta, lol.
Pedantic “super fans” are the worst to give opinions on what like/dislike in “their” game..
The problem is these “qualified nerds” get into relationships with new games when they still got their Ex on their mind. You get into a new experience to get exactly that. Thats why I dont listen to any of those guy because they stay basing the game off of older games and this is why they have the Beta to see what they can improve on when we can actually scale to level 50. Everybody wants to be a game developer without the responsibility.
$60 price tag for a game that offers NOTHING more than its free to play counterparts period. Your blizzard fanboy is showing. I assume you are a paid content creator for Blizzard?
This video is the best thing to watch while waiting 2 hours in queue to even play the game
Ive seen nothing but good of Diablo 4? Where is all this hate?
That’s fine imo. Based on what I played, D4 isn’t really trying to compete with PoE. PoE can do it’s own thing and D4 can do it’s own thing. I don’t understand why everyone thinks only ONE game is allowed to exist, and that it has to do everything for everyone. There are people that will prefer PoE and people that will prefer D4 and that’s healthier for both titles. Obviously people are going to hate on one or the other for not doing something the other is doing. When I see Mr Llama that dude hates every game that isn’t Diablo 2 and there are people just like him that will never be satisfied no matter what any game chooses to do. Personally I love what I’ve played of D4 and I could never get into PoE, so I’m glad I have a modern alternative.
Great editorial!
always cool headed and spreading positive vibes, nice videos bro
The scaling can be solved by scaling smaller enemies 0.8-0.9:1 with the player and 1.0-1.2:1 for medium and big enemies and make them not scale for more than 20 levels. This way you have a difficulty curve and at the same time when you outlevel certain level ranges and go back and easily spank them, you get the feeling of progression.
Everyone except me I guess. Loved it all the way to 20+. Cant wait for release !
I love it can’t wait for it to come out
lmfao asmongold and articulate in the same sentence.
This is why you don’t pre order games
Simplification does not work in an ARPG environment. Simple as that. People play these games for the customization, build variety, and endless things to choose from. So yes people are rightfully disappointed in D4, when it is failing to have the necessary elements for a good long term ARPG. We’ll have to wait and see what they have planned for launch, but I expect D4 to go the way of D3.
Funny everyone hates it even BEFORE shitting the shit show called “the in-game store”. I mean “Blizz’s real game”, the whole function they built everything around
Enjoy a box price, with a battle pass, selling transmog and mounts. Wouldn’t be surprised if they sell additional character slots
I fukking loved it last weekend, cant wait to try the necromancer this weekend! And i started playing Arpgs with Diablo 1
I find it ironic that the DIablo franchise, who set the standard for ARPG’s, has now, in some aspects, imitated the imatators and “evolvers.” Just my persepctive.
Woa, I’ve heard zero negativity around D4. I had so much fun on the closed beta last week i was even grinding for achievement and weapon expertise, only to later catch myself like. “Wait, it’s a beta, everything will get wiped what am I doing.”
I was having such an amazing time I played the game like it was released 😂
Not everyone haha I love it.
Love your vids force! Watching this while queued. I’ve enjoyed watching your channel grow over the years. You deserve every bit of recognition.
I don’t hate it. I just have Zero hopes and will wait to play Open beta and when it launches i’ll see reviews to decide if it’s worth my money and time.
It sounds like the graphics are good, but I’m seeing people say that RPGs have advanced so far that diablo 4 feels like a game that would’ve come out 10 years ago. It’s not advanced enough. There’s nothing new.
Honestly, I’m not interested at all in buying it because I saw a battle pass system. I am just going to wait til the cinematics show up on YouTube and I can catch up with the story.
I am playing grim dawn and enjoying my single player experience.
Who’s also watching this, while in the OBT queue?
weird, ive been seening a lot of people saying they are having fun
My experience playing the the beta as a rogue was pretty much me thinking id be able to blast through it as a melee rougue only to get stuck on a boss and then switch to ranged and absolutely cheese my way through every fight with caltrops dodge with boosted damage to slowed vulnerable and distant enemies with a cold or shadow damage buff. The game really needs some different balancing for melee or you need to be able to swap your equipment and ability loadouts like in ESO
with the rather oversaturation of the genre anymore, and PoE being as amazing as it is, its going to be real hard to innovate. You’d have to do something very unique.
Now i’m confused. I saw a bunch of these big Dia youtuber praizing the game in overall while yes, formulating also constructive criticism. Didn’t really seen any hate.
Also saw asmongold’s video and he was also positive. With some reasonable and legit criticism. Now what is the real state?
But whatever. i’m still very cautious since this is activision we are speaking about.
Let us see. 🙂
Haters are gonna hate. Mostly the Ponies will ride this into the ground because of the acquisition. If u don’t want a game thats like Diablo 1,2,3 then you really shouldn’t be playing Diablo 4.
I’m not worried, I’m pretty basic and not as smart as YouTubers. I enjoy the game so far. It will get better too.
I refunded the game when I couldn’t get in the first day , I like the game but I am going to wait to purchase it . I fear the launch will be really messy so I’m going to wait for the dust to settle. Am currently enjoying the beta
I’m one of those normal players and all of that matters to me
I played the beta… and it did not feel like a DIablo game. it was not dark enough.. cut scenes were very good but the game did not feel dark and epic
Lack of WASD alone is enough for me not to care about Diablo.
Well, isn’t it obvious ? 70€ for what ? I’ll wait for it to drop to 29 ! That’s a fair price!
alot of people enjoy d4
I hate these isn’t any offline campaign 👎👎👎👎👎
It’s main problem is it feels like diablo 3.5. It doesn’t feel like a game that was worth the wait for similar to how OW 2 ended up being. For me it’s not what I wanted to rekindle any love I used to have with blizzard but hey it could be worse, like immortal lol. Some people will certainly like it still and ignore previous blizzard stuff to just enjoy a new diablo finally and gl hf I say if you aren’t someone that concerns yourself with the blizzard drama and just want something fun to play.
We really should have a bigger bolder game than this though. Feels underwhelming and something that you’ll have to see how they shape the game over time (live service usualness now) and I’m not down to support that either.
NEW FG video!! Woot woot!!
Regarding the hate:
Immature hurt people hiding behind their screens will always want to hurt people.
Can’t make everyone happy.
I LOVED the early access and am streaming the Open Beta now – as I’m new to the Diablo world and love D4 so far.
Thing to remember for the haters…
THIS
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BETA
Lol
Use the force, Force….. the clickbait is strong with this one
Yeah, this just reinforces that i don’t trust blizzard to make quality games, not fuck over the gamers, or the employees that make the product. Played from diablo 1 all the way through d3. This continues the downward decline of a former giant in the industry.
I do NOT hate this Diablo. So far at least. I think it’s just the trendy thing to do.
I play videogames to have fun. Diable 4 has been fun so far, so I will continue playing it.
Blizzard keeps rebranding their current games. Nothing new,. How about this do a Diabloish(ARPG) version of WOW. They do a WOWish(MMO) version of Diablo. Anything but more of the same. Your IP is getting old. You need to Innovate.
I didn’t see anyone hating diablo iv – What a bullshit title
Good 🙂
The scaling issue I feel can be easily solved by not enabling “scaling” until level cap. Progression feels worthwhile and then on level cap the whole game scales up to you so you can go back to earlier areas for end game.
the scaling difficulty and shitty items is a nonstarter for me. i absolutely hate the feel of progressing in this game
It’s mediocre and will be even worse when the true monetization is revealed.
Do you still need to preorder to play the beta or is it open to everyone
I dunno, I find that a lot of the criticism for the game come from 2 camps (outside Asmon who was never part of either one), it’s either D2 purests or D3 streamers who cry dungeons are boring… while mass running rifts claiming it’s great.
There’s absolutely criticisms to be had but I just don’t put much stock into the opinions of people who made their name, and received benefits from these developers to push the same systems they think “suck”.
I loved the beta and I’m excited for release like a kid again!
Reminds me of your Diablo 3 coverage from a decade ago!
I’ve played and enjoyed it, but I haven’t seen anything THAT bad review wise. Just some constructive criticism.
PoE has evolved the genre way above what this old franchise had to offer.
Well it’s already pay to win. You sell a head start, it’s pay to win before its even released for everyone
people are just too negative and dont seem to realize that you only get like 20% of the game
I played Rogue in the first weekend and honestly I really liked the game. Going Necro today!
What? Every other review I saw was overwhelmingly positive?
Not true, POE crowd is toxic cause D4 doesn’t need a guide, 10 tabs with the build, a planner, premiun tabs, outdated graphics, rerolls to respec etc. Also POE streamers are leading this hate campaign, shame!
The game is trash and scam one more time for blizzard destroy the game..Ty again the PoE and LE is better for this trash ..D2 new graphic..with the best Dumb craft ever..casual game.!for noobs players
Bro, it’s the same game from 1996. Shit is old now.
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Oh god, I’m 15 minutes away from hopping into the Beta. Really hope I don’t hate it… Waited way too long for this :/
Edit; So after playing for like 8 hours yesterday, I can honestly say that I had a great time.
Ps: Force, my man… You gotta cut the shit with these click bait titles. I’ve been subbed for a looooong time and I’ve always enjoyed your content, but you’d hold onto a lot more respect from your community if you didn’t bait us like this. Most of the content creators you name-drop in this video have positive reviews up about D4. Asmongold even went as far as to say he really enjoyed it despite some of the issues and is optimistic about the games future..
I liked it, but i wasn’t motivated to say anything. Characters did feel weaker, but i kinda like the slower/harder combat.
NoOoOoO
Cause it plays like D3 dlc.
diablo
You’re the best! ❤
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