When peacekeeper and r-99 were in the lootpool that was the best for me mid range was r-99 close range was peacekeeper havent played in a while so ive got no clue in the lootpool
I remember when people played to actually have fun rather than being a movement sweat and worrying about how fast you move. So tired of the people that have to use “meta” weapons and sweat because they don’t have a life, or can’t play a game casually cause sweating is all they know.
Shotguns are very useful for no filling tho because of the ability to peek shoot. Not many weapons can put out 70-100 damage without taking any in return if you have a door to use.
Aurora used peacekeeper and bique a lot ALGS, and now they have world record for the best score of all time in history of ALGS. For mnk they’re good because you can flick on mouse.
Almost all of my kills so far has been with peacekeeper and mastiff. I am new to the game and while it checks out why only the shotguns have worked out for me, they are really good in endgame.
You play your kit and cards to your advan. I mainly run hem/mastiff and primarily use my hem for majority ranges. I only ever pull my mastiff out when they are dead in my face and typically 7/10 shots I hit 88 with mastiff.
It’s more so about how you play the kit you are delt. Don’t be caught dead in the water with no cover, if you see a push for your cover, prepare to use the shotty. If you are playing range with a shotty, you’re losing.
I cant hit shit for the pk tho, was a big gib main for a bit so I got comfy with the mastiff.
Purple mozam with hammers is SOOOOOO slept on tho, 45-45-45-60 dead in like 2 seconds flat. Just gotta hit ur shots and play the crouching/rock game well
These are the best guns for corner peaking, bubble fighting, Newcastle shield play, zipline movement, etc.
This is not good for pro style play which is long, drawn out, usually at range for most of the game, and then at the end, DPS dependant.
For any movement player, casual pub player, and ranked player, the shotgun meta is very much alive due to the much larger variety of play styles and character encounters. Gibby/Newcastle aren’t really meta in pro play but you run into them a lot more in pubs/ranked. Zipline movement plays are also seemingly pretty absent from pro play too, but every movement player in pubs does it all day every day lol.
This is strictly talking about pro play which plays wildly different than even ranked does.
If y’all stop listening to these so-called pro players, y’all will get good. They tell you stuff like turn off auto switch when your gun is empty on ammo so that way you can forget midway that you have to switch and then they beam you stop listening to these idiots.
i feel like i need a video explaining all the ad ons that we put in the weapon like i don’t know what the bolt do and the thing that looks like a silencer
As a recon player, i barely find myself in long range battles, so i always pick up a volt and a peacekeeper, and it has won me countless fights, so this seems like a skill issue
Ok hear me out, just sling it with ballistic, his ult will make it a gold gun with infinite ammo in your back pocket since fights are likely going to get close range, and this still allows you to take up 2 slots and are still customizable
Should be changed to this is why people not using strike packs, glitches, or scripts avoid shotguns cause every streamer with a 30 to 1 kd has a peace keeper.
I still cant get over how games turned shotguns into basically melee weapons. 0-8 meters? What even is that. A ahotgun is still DEADLY at 50 meters minimum
not even pros don’t use them lol
nobody who wants to win uses them lmao
even at very close range, missing your shots is extremely easy, such is the nature of non-auto weapons
in fact, for some reason players are slowed down when they take hits, which naturally makes full auto weapons stronger, and single fire weapons deprived of that benefit
I just hate that all the shotguns have a different pellet spread. Like it’s so unnecessary and the mastiff horizontal spread is so annoying past like 10 feet.
Its crazy how this is just incorrect and you can use different guns for different locations on every map but i guess. Like this entire video is just you being mad about not hitting your pellets
Dont believe this dude top preds die constantly to my pk bc after u crack em and we both switch guns my pk is gonna nock u much faster than that smg any day. Run a 2x 301 wit a pk or mastiff if u dont hit ur pk shots and trust no one will stop u. Unless they have a wingman 😂.
This is just not true. Who tf uses a shotgun out in the open like that only noobs. Or when he is low. You can always close the gap. You have also an oyher weapon I hope and the volt is super versitile with short and long range. R301 is also good on short range just get used to the weapons…
If you wish it were the opposite, where shotguns are better than SMGs, go play Fortnite and just try to kill anybody using a shotgun with a SMG… I only play nobuild BR, for the record 😅 I hate normal Fortnite where people run straight at you and build 1000 floors and walls just to get over you and shoot you with a shotgun. Pure cancer.
I’m 5kd player in apex, and i never use shotguns. At first i need to specify, that i spend to much time in game and in kovaaks, thats why its not hard for me to oneclip. I analyse my game, and understand that with smg or ar my gameplay become more stable then with shotgun. If u playing with pk for example, there’s no margin for error, u are fighting in close range and if ur enemy is a roller or a cool mnk player and u missed 1-2 shots – u died bruh. R99 for me is much better, cause its the fastest ttk in the game, and as the guy in the video said, more distant range is much better. BUT if u are really cool shotgun player, u know how to combine wall bounce and tapstrafe, how to superglide, u have to keep playing like this, cause its so effective and fun.
then you play mozambique with a flatline, problem solved. you can use the DT to see through smokes, mozambiques hits like a truck if you can hits shots, it’s fast to reload has a great firing speed. SMGs right now are just bad, the volt is still good and the alternator is good with it’s hopup, you now play the flatline havoc or lstar as a SMG
Dif you’re fighting in the open with a PK you need to reassess how you play the game. You should always be playing around cover with a PK, and even with a mastiff, your at a huge advantage when you can peak and deal burst damage.
I can’t tell you how many times I dropped the mastiff or PK for an alternator, but my alty is level 105 so yk… but this is facts always drop them for an smg
I literally watch videos all the time and see pros pick up shotguns all the time I hate watching bullshit videos that you kids make because you just pull something out of your ass and then say it. “ this is why Apex pros don’t you shotguns” they literally fucking do I see it all the time
Mad Maggie right now is ridiculous. Not only do you get faster run speed with the shotty out but you can upgrade to reloads on knocks, being an assault legend she gets to stack ammo meaning you only need 2 shotty stacks, on top of that she opens bins guarantying upgrades, plus her ult can be offensive , defensive and used for movement. Add on top of that an extra tactical.
The peacekeeper can best any smg in the right place i always run doubble smg or pk smg there is no downside since if somone is long range i dont peak them. Its easy to hit 70-100 with the pk most shots if you actually only shoot when you are dead centre people conplain about hitting 9s bit 99% of the time its just bad aim.
Mastiffs are IMO better than PK. Consistent high dmg and better hit spread. You can take out a player in 3-4 hits. Better than SMG if you have decent movement.
Just so we’re clear just because pros don’t use them doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. These guys are playing at the highest levels, you’re not. If the shotguns work for you then use them.
I enjoy the sniper rifle shotgun combo, don’t care about what’s optimal or min max ing my gameplay. Just want to get better by using challenging weapons.
Storm point single handedly removed shotguns from the ranked meta. That and the armor system. Why pick up a PK when I can get red armor off of random pot shots from my nemesis.
The fact he only pointed out the bad side is crazy, what if your face to face 1v3ing, it’s the easiest way to squad wipe when you have a shot gun and a mid/close range gun. Btw, mad Maggie makes that load out 3x as strong.
Remember pro like in league mean boring.
It’s not about making or pushing strategy.
It’s about waiting for someone to make a mistake.
And it’s very if not almost impossible for a situation in “Pro” to have an engagement less than 20 meters appart.
They have very good awareness.
So most fight are pop shot at 40-75 meters.
In rare case. 25-40
Very rare 15-25
Ultra rare 5-15 meter. And even then they would try to space each others.
Maybe anything other than the PK. Hitting 99+ is such a tide shifter in a fight. I main Rev and I find myself using it to poke hitting 40-70 damage a shot, then assuming my team hits their shots I’ll pounce in for an easy clean up. Also being able to scale buildings can make for an easy flank resulting in an easy down, jump away and repeat. Also the Ult…
I personally find running a shotty with a R301 or Flatline is cool, both ARs I find are manageable in close combat. Full clip followed by shotgun blast is a nice 2 piece kill
Yeah, but if you can charge up that pk, hit em for 120 for 1 shot, just gotta use it right. And I hit 40 in the shooting range from the shotgun location to the 3 dummies in the middle so they got a little more range for me. ADS I will point out.
I’m no pro, but I love a sniper with a shotty. Maybe it’s from the good ol halo days though.
Granted youve got a 2 to 4 on your Hemi you got a shot but yeah i dont pick up ahotguns either except the mozambique. Which in my opinion should be classified as a sniper with its range
My boy, a charged peacekeeper will literally cripple someone 50 feet away. Just aim center mass, abuse movement momentum (like slides) to counter the speed reduction while aiming and pair it with 302 or flat. 😭😭
My fav loadout currently is what I call “the gremlin” Its an RE 45 and mozambique. You just push, all the time. Get up in they grill burst em down with the RE then plant some mozam blasts in they face to finish it.
wrong, its because they all are switching (most of them already did) to controller, and the best weapons to abuse aim assist are rapid firing weapons and weapons with lots of bullets (basically weapons that requiere tracking) meaning shotguns are worthless with aim assist, remember when they were mostly playing on MnK? yeah all 3 shotguns were meta at some point ( yeah mozambique doesnt count), and no is not “hating” on aim assist, yes i do hate that everyone is taking the easy route with soft aimbot instead of actually leraning to improve (talking about the normal player, i understand that pros play for money and id also take every single advantage i could, be ratting, scummy combos or straight up soft aimbot) but this time its pure facts simple as that, before anyone comment “its just hate” just go and compare clips from pros who were on m&k and switched to controller, come back here with average hit per mag and theres your answer, you can be the best player to ever exist and still miss a few bullets on m&k, not because you are bad at aiming/tracking but because you have to literally predict the enemies movement, and sometimes stuff gets in your way, termites, character skills or just wonky animations for certain character that makes it impsible to predict, on controller? everything said above is irrelevant, it keeps tracking in those situations you just have to guide it, sometimes you dont even see the enemy behind something like 2 termites stacked, and aim assist just doesnt care, pair that auto tracking with the hit number and you dont need to see the enemy at all to kill them.
That’s irrelevant to the main player base tho. A lot of just just go hard for the FUN and having a Pk is fun and is viable and I disagree with this post. If you pk for 80 and slide in with the smg he’s done. I approach fights the same shotgun bolt or not. Oh won’t have long range. Well without a shorty you have NO face to face. Once I get a pk half my load out is complete. I don’t always shred you know I get my 9’s but still rather have it than to not. And what’s a pro these days? Hiding, waiting, and popping out
I don’t know what’s wrong with shotguns, but I lost like 80% of my shotgun fights, because the shots won’t connect. I literally can see how all pallets from the shot hit the enemy evo, I get the audio sound from hitting the evo and the visual effect and the enemy gets zero dmg. Even my teammates can see this and I can’t do anything with the PK or the mastiff…
Idk sometimes I run a longbow/senti w a pk or mastiff j to challenge myself to be better at rotating and positioning cuz u either have to push or be in a better spot
Dude your videos really have the juice. Great informative content and even better choice and production of clips to demonstrate what you’re talking about. Keep it up
bc shot guns are inconsistent literally just that simple with a pk it’s a gamble of 9 damage to 100+ we want to know guaranteed how much damage each bullet will do
I thought it’s just a preference thing. I tried playing Apex again around a week ago and felt that shotguns are shitty af. On the other hand, the two guns I hated to use 30-30 and hemlok, are my favorites now lmao
Thats why u pick Mozambique, still have the range advantage with tight bullet spread. U may say im tweaking, but ive been picking it up for a while and it’s quite good
Keep in mind that this dosent apply to legends with good movement abilities like path or octane, they control how close they can get and can outrun someone trying to escape, meaning they will remain within shotgun lethality range
And the biggest reason for carrying a shotgun isnt to fire it multiple times, its to land 1 extremely heavy shot before switching to your AR to clean up, PK+ r301/flatline on someone like octane is devastating because that 1 tap crack on push puts them in heavy danger, a single volley of fire from your other gun will down them
Used to hate shotguns in any game. Decided to learn how to use them effectively in Apex, and now… Now I love shotguns. That even made me better with snipers (which I always preferred) at short range. How the turntables, right?
Question fellas, what smgs are you guys running this season? The R9 and CAR have genuinely felt so terrible to use I’ve started pretty much only running shotgun and flatline secondaries instead lol.
Just increase the range for shotguns but at further range have the dmg drop off, they could also do the thing Fortnite did with their shotguns whereas you never hit for 9 it will at least always be 30 or something around that
But like I like shotguns I’m always inside peoples business so why not crack them with one pk shot with a gold bolt and disruptor rounds paired with altenator with disruptor rounds
The problem with shotguns is if you increase their effective range they could very easily become overpowered but if you increase their damage they become 2 shot kills on most armor levels. Like with the carepackage pk and mastiff.
Shotguns are s teir this season, lol what are you talking about? Plenty of apex predators take them all the time. Examples: Itemp, janks, moose, ratchet, chicken etc.
Pros wil tel u this just to make ppl pik shotguns less so they dont have to get 2 tapt, its stupid ever pro player use em No skills needed lots of damage
This isn’t always true though. The lack of damage is sometimes what makes the OP. Especially inside buildings or if you have something to play ring around the rosie with. You can just peek, shoot and go behind a wall. If you master that shotguns are OP by how little damage people can do to you with SMGs before you get behind that wall again. Usually, if I do it perfectly, I take maybe 20-30 damage in a fight and have room to slam the rest of their team. Just have a medium to long range as your secondary like a hemlock, and usually you can make up for that lack of range in the case you aren’t close enough.
When playing aggressive, I like Flatline/Hemlock + CAR/Volt, but I’m since I’m playing Crypto I’m favoring Marksman Weapons, like 30-30/Triple Take + CAR/Volt
Spitfire and shotgun is the best shotgun combo, but even then a shotgun should be a place holder till you find your ideal gun bc meta doesn’t beat personal preference
I am a run n gunner so a re-45 and Mozambique are my go to’s i use re-45 for my mid range when I get close to targets I switch to shotgun there’s no need for a bolt (they help for range shots)but being that close you will hit your target
Pk is not always viable in high level ranked but at the end of the day a shotgun is the only thing in the game aside from the sniper rifles that let you dump like 100 damage on someone while taking no damage yourself.
I main maggie and use the mosam for anything 15-200 meters works just fine for me, Though it’s still pretty reliant on the bolt still. Cant use the PK if my life depended on it. Prefer the eva-8 but I’ll use mastiff until i can get my hands on one. In summary, Mozambique 15-200; Mastiff 0-15.
this is fair unless you play something like octane or maggie where you can almost instantly close distance and start strafing on your opponent while shooting a shotgun then having a shotgun is kinda good cuz you can instantly ape someone and smack them with 100 dmg (if you’re good with both legend and the gun 💀)
“Pros” play scared and overly passive until there are 15 squads in last ring… The only way they can make the game “exciting” is to have 40 seconds of chaos at the end… So that tells me either the game is bad, or the “pros” aren’t pros
Flatline+pk my main combo I can use the pk to peak and get a high amount of dmg
Flatline if a really good opiton to mid-long range if u controll recoil
Only reason I don’t run shot guns is bc I consistently hit 9 but my enemies hit 99😂 ESPECIALLY the mastiff! I gotten ok with the PK. That mastiff fails me 99% of the time. ik get good! I do like the mozam tho, feel like it’s the most consistent shotty even without 🔨
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As a pred Gibby main I strongly disagree with the shotgun slander, Mande definitely agrees.
When peacekeeper and r-99 were in the lootpool that was the best for me mid range was r-99 close range was peacekeeper havent played in a while so ive got no clue in the lootpool
tired of the PK 9 head damage and the 11 mastiff head damage
Me hitting an enemy for 9..9…miss..9…9.Enemy turns and one-hits me.
I remember when people played to actually have fun rather than being a movement sweat and worrying about how fast you move. So tired of the people that have to use “meta” weapons and sweat because they don’t have a life, or can’t play a game casually cause sweating is all they know.
Shotguns are very useful for no filling tho because of the ability to peek shoot. Not many weapons can put out 70-100 damage without taking any in return if you have a door to use.
Surprised that this was actually informative, most Apex videos aren’t. Love to see Watson making some quality content.
Mozambique is a great shotgun for me. Especially if u attach hammer point very lethal
So we not going to talk about the Camara shots of Loba. 😆
I use volt and PK
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That’s why you move closer, this is a movement based game. Saying that’s a weakness is like saying SMG stink because they can’t hit as far as AR
That’s crazy because i usually like to run triple take peacekeeper on lets say maggie
Itztimmy plays peacekeeper lol
The best loudout I use is either like the spitfire and the alternator so yeah
Personally, I never pick up shotguns because I suck at using them. I just love hitting those 9s with the PK
Aurora used peacekeeper and bique a lot ALGS, and now they have world record for the best score of all time in history of ALGS. For mnk they’re good because you can flick on mouse.
shotguns i just find fun
And then there’s me that can’t aim, running around with a mastiff and a CAR
Good thing most fights end up close then I’m pumping you for 120 work pk
Felling of hitting 100+ with pk ( disruptor) is unmatched
301- longbow combo is the best
This video is so cap, every time you watch a pro’s stream, scrim, youtube video, ALGS, they always using shotguns 😂😂😂
What an extraordinary video!
Me having PTSD flashbacks to season 5-6 mastiff meta 😬😬
Alternator is just disgusting, there’s a reason disruptor got removed at some point.
Like broo
I like the way Valk run into the building and grabs the smg.
Almost all of my kills so far has been with peacekeeper and mastiff. I am new to the game and while it checks out why only the shotguns have worked out for me, they are really good in endgame.
Bro, if you are using roller, carry a bloody shotgun
Nah the real reason they dont pick up shotguns is because the small damage problem at point blank!
Pros don’t pick up shotguns because they aren’t as effective with their aimbots.
A pro will always pick up a shotgun
You play your kit and cards to your advan. I mainly run hem/mastiff and primarily use my hem for majority ranges. I only ever pull my mastiff out when they are dead in my face and typically 7/10 shots I hit 88 with mastiff.
It’s more so about how you play the kit you are delt. Don’t be caught dead in the water with no cover, if you see a push for your cover, prepare to use the shotty. If you are playing range with a shotty, you’re losing.
I cant hit shit for the pk tho, was a big gib main for a bit so I got comfy with the mastiff.
Shot gun and 3030 with 2×4 scope and rip fire is goated
Purple mozam with hammers is SOOOOOO slept on tho, 45-45-45-60 dead in like 2 seconds flat. Just gotta hit ur shots and play the crouching/rock game well
wait till bro hears about maggie
i love shotguns frr
meanwhile yakuaf is 1v3’ing pro teams with a pk in ALGS
These are the best guns for corner peaking, bubble fighting, Newcastle shield play, zipline movement, etc.
This is not good for pro style play which is long, drawn out, usually at range for most of the game, and then at the end, DPS dependant.
For any movement player, casual pub player, and ranked player, the shotgun meta is very much alive due to the much larger variety of play styles and character encounters. Gibby/Newcastle aren’t really meta in pro play but you run into them a lot more in pubs/ranked. Zipline movement plays are also seemingly pretty absent from pro play too, but every movement player in pubs does it all day every day lol.
This is strictly talking about pro play which plays wildly different than even ranked does.
Yeah well not everything is as it seems on paper
Pk clears
If y’all stop listening to these so-called pro players, y’all will get good. They tell you stuff like turn off auto switch when your gun is empty on ammo so that way you can forget midway that you have to switch and then they beam you stop listening to these idiots.
These are lies and slander. I run two shotguns, and i will fight you that they are the best weapon class in the game.
This sounds like a skill issue to me.
i feel like i need a video explaining all the ad ons that we put in the weapon like i don’t know what the bolt do and the thing that looks like a silencer
Nahh yall just suck with shotguns
As a recon player, i barely find myself in long range battles, so i always pick up a volt and a peacekeeper, and it has won me countless fights, so this seems like a skill issue
this is why apex pros don’t take shower
G7 scout + rampage 🤫🧏
Shotguns and snipers in apex are legitimately unless.
Sounds like someone is salty they hit a 9 with a PK
These rules don’t apply to the Mozambique, which is why it’s the best shotgun
Please devs give shotguns higher range
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Ok hear me out, just sling it with ballistic, his ult will make it a gold gun with infinite ammo in your back pocket since fights are likely going to get close range, and this still allows you to take up 2 slots and are still customizable
Its just preference, like if ur good a initial shots ur a sniper/shotgun/marksman guy , if ur good at beaming/lazering ur a smg/ar etc guy
My dumbass in the corner loving the mozam.
or just get good with the shottie
I’m a shotgun legend just like how i a knife legend in call of duty
I’m a shotgun legend just like how it’s a knife legend in call of duty
Yeah about that…what about faide…
Mad how when you watch ALGS and shit they use shotguns
Shotgun was for dome fight counter. nothing more than that. After Gibby meta died Shotgun died as well.
Should be changed to this is why people not using strike packs, glitches, or scripts avoid shotguns cause every streamer with a 30 to 1 kd has a peace keeper.
bros acting like its hard getting close to an enemy in apex
I still cant get over how games turned shotguns into basically melee weapons. 0-8 meters? What even is that. A ahotgun is still DEADLY at 50 meters minimum
Lol it’s funny because the stuff I try to get is a mastiff and re-45
Wow, now lets talk about why so many “pros” switched to controller.
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Before watching the video can i just say they don’t use shotguns because they’re bad.
also aim assist
I guess I’m not crazy for sticking to my combo. Alternator and Sentinel is my go to.
Loba booty shot 🫣
Dohble tap is the only thing that saves shotguns. And its only on one gun
Have you seen Cau7ion? That man can fucking destroy with peacekeepers.
Gun is gun
I’m sorry, even with these downsides, pros still use PKs. What are you smoking?
bro forgot about the mozam
I’ve seen pros pick up shotguns plenty of times lol
what about faide he got peacekeeper every game
Shotguns are the one gun with the lowest headshot potential, I’ve never heard such a clean headshot sound to see a gold like 18
they were only good during gibby meta 😖
Unless
You’re mad Maggie, and then it’s no problem.
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If you wanna have fun take the shotgun. If you wanna sweat don’t take the shotgun
apex legends ruined titan fall
All guns in Apex take a minimum of 5 years to kill somebody in the first place.
Ive known thsi fact since i started the game. Apex is not that great with sniper rifles or shotguns.
I use r-301 for shot gun its good at close range and semi good at long range
you forgot about aim assist
not even pros don’t use them lol
nobody who wants to win uses them lmao
even at very close range, missing your shots is extremely easy, such is the nature of non-auto weapons
in fact, for some reason players are slowed down when they take hits, which naturally makes full auto weapons stronger, and single fire weapons deprived of that benefit
Mozambique most underrated gun. Its got range despite being a shortgun and has a fair amount of damage
I don’t even touch shottys unless I use Mad Maggie cause I know Its just pain waiting to happen
this was make by someone who just started playing 😭
Lies, Ive been mastiff’d from over 50m and it hit for 90
shotguns are only good for Pathfinders
Oh idk cut the distance?
Me as a rampart main: I’ll gladly take the mastiff and pk with the gold bolt
Same with TF2, not much people use the shot guns
I just hate that all the shotguns have a different pellet spread. Like it’s so unnecessary and the mastiff horizontal spread is so annoying past like 10 feet.
always miss when 1vs 1 using shotgun i choose reload my smg better
Its crazy how this is just incorrect and you can use different guns for different locations on every map but i guess. Like this entire video is just you being mad about not hitting your pellets
Pov: you don’t know how to play the game
Dont let em cap to u l, pros use shotguns all the time xD
ive seen timmy use pk/hemlok many times lol
everyone doesnt pick it up except for faide
Just triple take and 301 triple take can be used as a shotgun at has better range
Meanwhile Reps sniping with Mozam
Or. Just get better
i see people run shotguns in algs all the time. not a lot but there are guys running shotty almost every match
I don’t care who the TTVs send, i am running Shotgun and Sentinel anyways
Then you have bald wraiths flying at the speed of light smiting you down with the mighty PK in 2 shots
doesnt stop timmy, xylas or lemonhead
Dont believe this dude top preds die constantly to my pk bc after u crack em and we both switch guns my pk is gonna nock u much faster than that smg any day. Run a 2x 301 wit a pk or mastiff if u dont hit ur pk shots and trust no one will stop u. Unless they have a wingman 😂.
Triple take, r301 best combo
Yall sleeping on alternator and lstar frfr
Honestly the way they are designed is for peak fighting. Hopefully with the new “city” themed map shotguns will have much tighter areas to help it out
I remember when apex first came out i used the RE-45 and the PK. That or the RE-45 and hemlok. Such a good pair for octane
This is just not true. Who tf uses a shotgun out in the open like that only noobs. Or when he is low. You can always close the gap. You have also an oyher weapon I hope and the volt is super versitile with short and long range. R301 is also good on short range just get used to the weapons…
If you wish it were the opposite, where shotguns are better than SMGs, go play Fortnite and just try to kill anybody using a shotgun with a SMG… I only play nobuild BR, for the record 😅 I hate normal Fortnite where people run straight at you and build 1000 floors and walls just to get over you and shoot you with a shotgun. Pure cancer.
Bro fym hemlok is an smg????
That’s a burst AR.
Peacekeeper and alternater is the best combo
Not me watching this while maining the peacekeeper and sentinel😅
Hear me out just get in there face theres so many ways to do it 😭
Lmgs and re-45 are slept on ngl
You never met faide or any actual pro then
I’m trash so really doesn’t matter what I pick up.
Every AR and a pk is the best…flat,301/havoc, and also spitfire can be devastating combo with a pk
Shotguns can use digi’s though…SMGs can’t so I’m sure that has to have some kind of value
I’ll never not pick up a peace keeper
Tf u mean pros never use shotguns, literally every pro ive seen has dropped almost any gun for a pk😅
Still would rather find a shotgun over a p2020
I’m 5kd player in apex, and i never use shotguns. At first i need to specify, that i spend to much time in game and in kovaaks, thats why its not hard for me to oneclip. I analyse my game, and understand that with smg or ar my gameplay become more stable then with shotgun. If u playing with pk for example, there’s no margin for error, u are fighting in close range and if ur enemy is a roller or a cool mnk player and u missed 1-2 shots – u died bruh. R99 for me is much better, cause its the fastest ttk in the game, and as the guy in the video said, more distant range is much better. BUT if u are really cool shotgun player, u know how to combine wall bounce and tapstrafe, how to superglide, u have to keep playing like this, cause its so effective and fun.
Re 45 and hemlock what’s I been using a lot
That’s why I rock Mozambique
You’re capping bro. You ain’t no pro
Wtf are you talking about lots of streamers use shottys
*Faide join the chat*
Plenty of pros pickup shotguns
true but. its fun
then you play mozambique with a flatline, problem solved. you can use the DT to see through smokes, mozambiques hits like a truck if you can hits shots, it’s fast to reload has a great firing speed. SMGs right now are just bad, the volt is still good and the alternator is good with it’s hopup, you now play the flatline havoc or lstar as a SMG
are you sure?
Liking these quick, short, informative videos from Wattso !
Dif you’re fighting in the open with a PK you need to reassess how you play the game. You should always be playing around cover with a PK, and even with a mastiff, your at a huge advantage when you can peak and deal burst damage.
*cries in newcastle main*
That’s why you don’t use shotguns, pros use shotguns just not the ones you watch
Yeah but the pk has a good ranged when charged up
LMAO yea right lemme run in to you with a mastiff + purp bolt. 3 shot max
I can’t tell you how many times I dropped the mastiff or PK for an alternator, but my alty is level 105 so yk… but this is facts always drop them for an smg
Havoc >>
Depends on who you run too like if you run bang smoke shots go crazy
Faide?
now do a vid why movement players love them
me with 2 Mozambique loadout
I hate this game
Don’t care hitting 9 dmg with a pk is the life
I literally watch videos all the time and see pros pick up shotguns all the time I hate watching bullshit videos that you kids make because you just pull something out of your ass and then say it. “ this is why Apex pros don’t you shotguns” they literally fucking do I see it all the time
I play with CAR + Peacekeeper 😢😢
If you got movement a shotgun is what you want.
Thats why i play Vantage. You get the ult for longer ranges
Yeah, but almost every smg ass
Mad Maggie right now is ridiculous. Not only do you get faster run speed with the shotty out but you can upgrade to reloads on knocks, being an assault legend she gets to stack ammo meaning you only need 2 shotty stacks, on top of that she opens bins guarantying upgrades, plus her ult can be offensive , defensive and used for movement. Add on top of that an extra tactical.
The peacekeeper can best any smg in the right place i always run doubble smg or pk smg there is no downside since if somone is long range i dont peak them. Its easy to hit 70-100 with the pk most shots if you actually only shoot when you are dead centre people conplain about hitting 9s bit 99% of the time its just bad aim.
Idk about that I see many pro players still picking up shotguns all the time
counter argument, the ability to close distance without disrupting firing ability, e.g. octane, bangalore and maggie
Mastiffs are IMO better than PK. Consistent high dmg and better hit spread. You can take out a player in 3-4 hits. Better than SMG if you have decent movement.
I disagree strongly i love pks
its ok just pick up a mozam
Just so we’re clear just because pros don’t use them doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. These guys are playing at the highest levels, you’re not. If the shotguns work for you then use them.
That’s why you do r301 with any shotgun
Well I’m not a pro at all, I’ll keep my Triple Take/PK loadout and just keep being bad with it lol
People don’t use shotgun in semi mid range 😂. Just close your distance and make situation to 1v1 with your opponent
I use hemlock and pk. He says its akward but the hemmy slays even close range
I enjoy both alot, but i cant pass up a PK. Its just too satisfying to not use it
Use sentinal best shotgun imo
You don’t pick up a PK because it’s the best gun. You pick it up because you have class.
Ngl I’ve just been sprinting at people with a havoc for close range and that seems to be working better than smg’s for me lately 😂😂
“It’s difficult to pair shotguns”
Flatline pk 🗿
I use Volt and PK. And i use movement to get up close to them with my team.
Havoc + Flatline are my main guns havoc is great up close
Yet Respawn doesnt understand how their own game works so lets nerf the r99 for the 2,932,394,723,847,298,349,874th Time
The video under this one is a guy running 2 mastiffs 💀
lol I use mozam I hit way more shots with that than a pk or mastif
GYYYAAAATTT
Volt hits hard at mid range
Have u not heard of itzztimmy bro only uses Pk and dominates
So pros dont use shotguns because they are weak pathetic
Just don’t be ass and get up close haha really not the hardest thing to do 😎
your a way wrong there buddy shotguns is just meant to
How do i not die immediately after dropping/ in the air
Shotguns are best when you have an a Rampage with you, Rampage the best mid to long range wepoen
While all technically correct getting 2 shot by a pk will have you rethinking all of this, picking one up, hitting 8dmg, and putting it back down
I enjoy the sniper rifle shotgun combo, don’t care about what’s optimal or min max ing my gameplay. Just want to get better by using challenging weapons.
Sentinel pk let’s go
Interesting I use it to jiggle peek controller players
My fav gun pick is: Triple Take / Re-45
I also use: Sentinel / Volt (or prowler)
Close to mid range they op but the other day I was going off with the pk And sentinel
Literally the next clip I see is Mande using a shotgun 😂
I miss when games weren’t sweat fests
What pros u watching a lot still run PK
Storm point single handedly removed shotguns from the ranked meta. That and the armor system. Why pick up a PK when I can get red armor off of random pot shots from my nemesis.
Get gud kid
But faide always takes one shotgun, mostly pk and he picks win
The fact he only pointed out the bad side is crazy, what if your face to face 1v3ing, it’s the easiest way to squad wipe when you have a shot gun and a mid/close range gun. Btw, mad Maggie makes that load out 3x as strong.
Tbh if you can’t use the hemlok within 15 meters maybe crutch the flatline like everybody else
I played this game before they had seasons and stopped playing before season 1 but I remember the peacekeeper being broken asf when I played lmao
I will never stop 2 pumping mfs.
Also imagin runnin, Ar/Shotgun, Smg/shotgun, or Ar/Smg. NAH…
Sentinel/PK.
Honestly low key miss the shotgun meta. Up shotgun damage within 5 meters do they’re worth it over smgs
Remember pro like in league mean boring.
It’s not about making or pushing strategy.
It’s about waiting for someone to make a mistake.
And it’s very if not almost impossible for a situation in “Pro” to have an engagement less than 20 meters appart.
They have very good awareness.
So most fight are pop shot at 40-75 meters.
In rare case. 25-40
Very rare 15-25
Ultra rare 5-15 meter. And even then they would try to space each others.
Who else misses the care package mastiff 🥲
You forget to mention that y’all have an ego and can’t help but push up into my pk
Liar
Yall dont just use the pk and a nemesis, hemlock, flatline or havoc?
Shotgun + L star thank me later
And also ther inconsistent
That’s crazy that pros don’t take shotguns to me. Peek shots is just everything to me.
Bro the fucn visuals with the voice explanation 👌 😢 😍
Vault or alternators work really well with shotguns as they are quite versitile
R9 triple take you can use to triple take like a shotgun but at long distances and close range
Reps: Hold my Mozam
Maybe anything other than the PK. Hitting 99+ is such a tide shifter in a fight. I main Rev and I find myself using it to poke hitting 40-70 damage a shot, then assuming my team hits their shots I’ll pounce in for an easy clean up. Also being able to scale buildings can make for an easy flank resulting in an easy down, jump away and repeat. Also the Ult…
I personally find running a shotty with a R301 or Flatline is cool, both ARs I find are manageable in close combat. Full clip followed by shotgun blast is a nice 2 piece kill
I will continue to lurch strafe while holding a peacekeeper on maggie
Grab 2 alternators, one with 2x scope and one with no scope. Game literally gets to easy mode
Yeah, but if you can charge up that pk, hit em for 120 for 1 shot, just gotta use it right. And I hit 40 in the shooting range from the shotgun location to the 3 dummies in the middle so they got a little more range for me. ADS I will point out.
I’m no pro, but I love a sniper with a shotty. Maybe it’s from the good ol halo days though.
Nun this guy say is facts
Granted youve got a 2 to 4 on your Hemi you got a shot but yeah i dont pick up ahotguns either except the mozambique. Which in my opinion should be classified as a sniper with its range
Why are people not using much the r99
No they don’t use shotguns because they are all on rollers hitting heads is too hard
My boy, a charged peacekeeper will literally cripple someone 50 feet away. Just aim center mass, abuse movement momentum (like slides) to counter the speed reduction while aiming and pair it with 302 or flat. 😭😭
Nah the main reason is you whiff one shot you ded
The PK is just ass right now. Nobody should pick it up unless you enjoy suffering
Also bolt/mastiff is a perfect combo. Volt has decent range and the mastiff is the best ground loot shotgun rn
Well that’s why I use a shotgun for close range
still using double pk
Wait what i thought this was a joke video. Are shotguns really not the move?
I agree with all of this but what about Gibbys new perks for a shotgun
I used mastif and spitfire and i did pretty good
Timmy with mastiff : “I grappled to them and they were all dead
Im new to Apex, just started last week, what are considered to be the best weapons right now?
I’ve found myself really enjoying the Nemesis and Sentinel so far
My fav loadout currently is what I call “the gremlin” Its an RE 45 and mozambique. You just push, all the time. Get up in they grill burst em down with the RE then plant some mozam blasts in they face to finish it.
UNLESSS YOU ARE MAGGIE BABY!!😂❤
I use either flate line or tripple take, nemis or spitfire with pk
Wingman + PK was always my go to until they packaged the wingman. If you have good movement and aim than you become a beast with these two guns.
Yet I’m getting destroyed by shotguns but when I use it I’m hitting for 9…..😐
U dont know what they got till I get poked for 130 to the face 😈
And aimassist is crazy on smgs
What terrible video. You have 2 guns puck an AR and a shot gun. If you’re good enough you can pick a sniper and a pk.
wrong, its because they all are switching (most of them already did) to controller, and the best weapons to abuse aim assist are rapid firing weapons and weapons with lots of bullets (basically weapons that requiere tracking) meaning shotguns are worthless with aim assist, remember when they were mostly playing on MnK? yeah all 3 shotguns were meta at some point ( yeah mozambique doesnt count), and no is not “hating” on aim assist, yes i do hate that everyone is taking the easy route with soft aimbot instead of actually leraning to improve (talking about the normal player, i understand that pros play for money and id also take every single advantage i could, be ratting, scummy combos or straight up soft aimbot) but this time its pure facts simple as that, before anyone comment “its just hate” just go and compare clips from pros who were on m&k and switched to controller, come back here with average hit per mag and theres your answer, you can be the best player to ever exist and still miss a few bullets on m&k, not because you are bad at aiming/tracking but because you have to literally predict the enemies movement, and sometimes stuff gets in your way, termites, character skills or just wonky animations for certain character that makes it impsible to predict, on controller? everything said above is irrelevant, it keeps tracking in those situations you just have to guide it, sometimes you dont even see the enemy behind something like 2 termites stacked, and aim assist just doesnt care, pair that auto tracking with the hit number and you dont need to see the enemy at all to kill them.
And why i See all pros on Twitch play shotgun 😂
Pros Play with Sentinel for Noscopes 😂😂😂
That’s why you run r301 or flatline with a 2-3x and a mastiff it covers all bases other than SUPPER long range
But when you have cover and are close range a mastiff is your best friend
because smg+controller=ez game
I be popping off with that mastiff tho lol we got sandwiched in the loot cave and i dropped 6 people with that bad boy
Faide and extessy are saying otherwise
Mastiff shotgun has left the chat
*COUGH COUGH* ballistic players using ar smg and shot guns
Pk Wingman has entered the chat
That’s why you use a sniper with a shotgun.
Get goofy.
Play stupid.
But charge rifle and mastiff is so nice tho lol (an actual fav of mine)
shotguns can pair with Hemlock, 30-30, G7, TripleTake, and Longbow. and Bocek
Keep using your SMGs. They work.
Sincerely,Mad Maggie main.
That’s irrelevant to the main player base tho. A lot of just just go hard for the FUN and having a Pk is fun and is viable and I disagree with this post. If you pk for 80 and slide in with the smg he’s done. I approach fights the same shotgun bolt or not. Oh won’t have long range. Well without a shorty you have NO face to face. Once I get a pk half my load out is complete. I don’t always shred you know I get my 9’s but still rather have it than to not. And what’s a pro these days? Hiding, waiting, and popping out
Meanwhile the horizon deleted verlhurst and his squad in three shots in four seconds
I don’t know what’s wrong with shotguns, but I lost like 80% of my shotgun fights, because the shots won’t connect. I literally can see how all pallets from the shot hit the enemy evo, I get the audio sound from hitting the evo and the visual effect and the enemy gets zero dmg. Even my teammates can see this and I can’t do anything with the PK or the mastiff…
I agree if it’s pk but something like say wingman mastiff great load out or hemlock mozam
Faide over here running PK and R99
Lies. Pros use shotguns all the time
I mean bro, you don’t need to be a pro to know this. Although I’m sure the reason I pick up SMG’s is “Spray and Prey Braaah!”. LMAO
PK choke lol
Yeh unless you’re me in which case the enemy always hits for 90+ 😂
Moment players laughing rn
All the movement players on kbm punching the air rn
Ill only pick a Mozambique up at the beginning of the round if i find a purple bolt
Pk used to hit like a kraber I have clips from a 150 mtrs
*Controller* . There i fixed ur video, 🥰🥰🥰
I feel like shotguns are the best for clutch situations
Comment on April 1st tho
This is the exact video I was looking for why no one in ALGS run a shotgun except that Japanese god with the PK
Idk sometimes I run a longbow/senti w a pk or mastiff j to challenge myself to be better at rotating and positioning cuz u either have to push or be in a better spot
it’s a good thing none of us watching this are pros so it really doesn’t affect us majorly
I’ll take a no bolt pk over a purple bolt mastiff any day ngl
I mean faide seems to do well with them..
False most of the best players in world use them a lot
Peacekeeper+R301 with Maggie is op
I love shotguns
and my first 4k 20bomb was with 2 shotguns bc my friend dared me 2 and it was this season
Simple play mad mag get close
It makes sense now, flank rush and hide. Smh
early game they’re great. Beyond that, id rather take an SMG.
Why would you take a fight with no cover in the open with a shotgun vs an SMG in the first place lol
good advice. PK is my favorite gun but I’ll always drop it for a volt
everyone looking at the nice loba details 10 seconds in
mozambique long range is slept on
Dude your videos really have the juice. Great informative content and even better choice and production of clips to demonstrate what you’re talking about. Keep it up
I just pick up what feels right that game
bc shot guns are inconsistent literally just that simple with a pk it’s a gamble of 9 damage to 100+ we want to know guaranteed how much damage each bullet will do
I thought it’s just a preference thing. I tried playing Apex again around a week ago and felt that shotguns are shitty af. On the other hand, the two guns I hated to use 30-30 and hemlok, are my favorites now lmao
Who cares what the pros use
Counter argument: Shotguns are cool
o yeah ? dont miss ur shots going against one then and your reload time will get you killed cause weapon swap is a free knock 😭
😀 Pros allway play shotgun lol click bait video .
My P2020 is designed for long range combat It recoil barely go left or right
Pk with digital and nemisis with 2x is to good, if your aim is good enough you can use the nemesis from pretty far away
I run 301 or flatline with a pk, doing just fine sitting at diamond 3 rn 🤷
R301 with pk and disruptors
I mean Rogue still uses shotguns. He runs PK R3-01 every game 😂
But shot gun fun
Nah, peacekeeper and r99 is the best load out in the game💀
Thats why u pick Mozambique, still have the range advantage with tight bullet spread. U may say im tweaking, but ive been picking it up for a while and it’s quite good
eva 8 this season tho us insane
Who tf is using shotguns in that range
*laughs in mad Maggie
I mean constantly hitting 9s in a tournament wouldn’t be good publicity no?
Me who runs away with 2 Pks for the fun of it
😂
The only shotgun ill use is the mastiff with a flatline as my other gun
Mozambique with purple shotgun bolt and hammer points if lucky
I’ve ran re-45 pk and it was really good. Though running certain loadouts are better on other legend than others
*R301 would like to show up to chat*
Any “Pro”that has to rely on using strictly full auto weapons and cant even use an unhopped shotgun in close quarters effectively isnt that good.
Lol the apex community loves to hype up players who consistently go for the most Broken loadouts and claim them as gods😂😂
Keep in mind that this dosent apply to legends with good movement abilities like path or octane, they control how close they can get and can outrun someone trying to escape, meaning they will remain within shotgun lethality range
And the biggest reason for carrying a shotgun isnt to fire it multiple times, its to land 1 extremely heavy shot before switching to your AR to clean up, PK+ r301/flatline on someone like octane is devastating because that 1 tap crack on push puts them in heavy danger, a single volley of fire from your other gun will down them
Mozam is key
Used to hate shotguns in any game. Decided to learn how to use them effectively in Apex, and now… Now I love shotguns. That even made me better with snipers (which I always preferred) at short range. How the turntables, right?
Mozam+Hammerpoint: Am I a joke to you?
Hardecki is like
Am i a joke to you?
Charge rifle, PK is a crazy combo
all smgs are trash this season
Question fellas, what smgs are you guys running this season? The R9 and CAR have genuinely felt so terrible to use I’ve started pretty much only running shotgun and flatline secondaries instead lol.
no way this man has the 350$ death box
Big exception would be s0 mastiff idc who you are ur pickin that up 😂. Even the more recent care pack mastiff had surprisingly crazy range
Just increase the range for shotguns but at further range have the dmg drop off, they could also do the thing Fortnite did with their shotguns whereas you never hit for 9 it will at least always be 30 or something around that
But the pros love them 😂😂😂 you might not but a bunch do
Shotguns need a legend who can abuse em. Like Maggie.
But like I like shotguns I’m always inside peoples business so why not crack them with one pk shot with a gold bolt and disruptor rounds paired with altenator with disruptor rounds
Yeah this dude is not a pro
The problem with shotguns is if you increase their effective range they could very easily become overpowered but if you increase their damage they become 2 shot kills on most armor levels. Like with the carepackage pk and mastiff.
This is not why we use the shotgun it’s because u can hit a Gud 90 without exposing yourself if u do it right way harder to do with an smg
Womp womp
………….Faide
Sentinel is the best shotgun 😂
Nobody cares
I see pros use almost only shotguns most the time
I love apex but i feel like SMGs are one of the worst things to comd to FPS games
Shotguns are s teir this season, lol what are you talking about? Plenty of apex predators take them all the time. Examples: Itemp, janks, moose, ratchet, chicken etc.
Damm Loba looking good from behind 🥰😏😩
Its only OP when the opponent uses it 😂😂
Thats why u play Mad Maggie bby
Flatline + volt
I can’t hip fire with shotguns like I can with other weapons. I’d rather hip fire a g7 scout than a shotgun
I’ve been kicking ass with the Mozambique.
UNLESS you pick up a mozam with a hammerpoint and you get those nice 45 damages from like 40 meters away lol
We Maggie mains know that it’s not the best, but we have to much fun when they do work to pass it up
Love your videos man. Thanks for the content. Good luck at ALGS
Anti shotgun propaganda won’t stop my 2 or 3 (ballistic) peacekeeper games
Nah Maggie plus any shotgun is a w or mirage with a PK or mastiff
Maybe cuz the alterantor is hands down the best gun in apex right now duuh…
Pros wil tel u this just to make ppl pik shotguns less so they dont have to get 2 tapt, its stupid ever pro player use em No skills needed lots of damage
If you cant use shotguns just say youre ass.
They literally use shotguns more than anything, what?😭🤣🤣🤣
R301 + Hemlock
@mande
why pro play smg and not shotgun because 98% of
them play on controler
I use Sg. It’s simple f*k them Closer.
A lot of your points were focused on getting outmatched in the OPEN. A lot of of characters can counter act that.
TAKE IT BACK… JACOB! 😡🤬😂
If your shit just say it
Flatline + nemesis is OP no doubt!
Mozambique: let me introduce myself
i still run shotguns…. All i have to do is click on you.
Sintenel and pk best combo in game only guns to hit for over a 100 with one click
Wrong
Mozambique has almost no damage drop off
Best weapons to land on off drop are shotguns tbh. The ability to two tap a white shield for a knock is unmatched.
Ive recently stopped using shotguns as my secondary and have been instead using hemlock, nemesis, or sentinel. But mostly hemlock
Ok but Mastiff season 3 ufff
Flatline + PK was a fun combo to run when you actually ever saw a Gibby but yeah it’s just outclassed nowadays.
cuz apex pros are nobrainers who can only stay at one place and spray
Flatline Peacekeeper….
Wattson knew exactly what he was doing with that loba clip
The 45 its broken, my winning como, the re45 wth hammerpoint and rampage with 3x
Smgs are def the most important type of gun to pick up, but I can’t believe someone would take an re45 instead of a gold shotgun bolt peacekeeper🤯🤯🤯
I dont use it because i suck with shotguns with out without a bolt but i just suck in general
i see timmy and aceu use shotguns all the time
flatline peacekeeper enters the chat, also i think it depends on the map.
Pk+sentinal is all you need 😂😂
Mozambique or pk + Sentinel = my public 🗿❤️🔥
Alternater slaps rn with hop up
Lol big facts
All I heard was “skill issue”
L star, any smg plus wraith
Just aim with the shotty it wil work better 😂
Im still using the PK, nothing feels better to jiggle peek with and ive won way too many 1v3s with my PK…
Yet I can snipe people with the pk 😂😂😂😂
Flatline PK is viable but there are better combos
Their also note inconsistent then my co workers
This isn’t always true though. The lack of damage is sometimes what makes the OP. Especially inside buildings or if you have something to play ring around the rosie with. You can just peek, shoot and go behind a wall. If you master that shotguns are OP by how little damage people can do to you with SMGs before you get behind that wall again. Usually, if I do it perfectly, I take maybe 20-30 damage in a fight and have room to slam the rest of their team. Just have a medium to long range as your secondary like a hemlock, and usually you can make up for that lack of range in the case you aren’t close enough.
I suck at tracking but I’m good at flicking so my favorite combo is hemlock PK
This is inherently inaccurate, there’s always quite a few every match that are using them in the algs
Flatline + PK = pub stomper’s dream.
Flatline n Pk or mastiff. Only using the shotty on super close range,
When playing aggressive, I like Flatline/Hemlock + CAR/Volt, but I’m since I’m playing Crypto I’m favoring Marksman Weapons, like 30-30/Triple Take + CAR/Volt
what about wattsons seer and peacekeeper arc in algs
All I heard from this short was nerf SMGs again.
Will never forget your pk clutch tho
Spitfire and shotgun is the best shotgun combo, but even then a shotgun should be a place holder till you find your ideal gun bc meta doesn’t beat personal preference
This is why Apex casuals don’t pick up shotguns: Is easier to hit something with more bullets 😅
*faided joined the chat*
Literally just watched an apex “trainer” say every sweat is grabbing them 😂
I am a run n gunner so a re-45 and Mozambique are my go to’s i use re-45 for my mid range when I get close to targets I switch to shotgun there’s no need for a bolt (they help for range shots)but being that close you will hit your target
Pk is not always viable in high level ranked but at the end of the day a shotgun is the only thing in the game aside from the sniper rifles that let you dump like 100 damage on someone while taking no damage yourself.
And this is why faide is better
Nothing beats the feeling of hitting a 125 with a disruptor pk though..
I realy love double mastiff
But sadly mid and long is useless
That’s why I run ballistic car flatline and pk
Says the guy that only uses flatline and hemlok and tells smgs are useless all the time.
I main maggie and use the mosam for anything 15-200 meters works just fine for me, Though it’s still pretty reliant on the bolt still. Cant use the PK if my life depended on it. Prefer the eva-8 but I’ll use mastiff until i can get my hands on one. In summary, Mozambique 15-200; Mastiff 0-15.
I guess Fade is not a pro player 🥲
not true tho shotguns can still do decent damage from 7-15 metres especially the mastiff. im sure it can hit 66 from 60-70 from that range
this is fair unless you play something like octane or maggie where you can almost instantly close distance and start strafing on your opponent while shooting a shotgun then having a shotgun is kinda good cuz you can instantly ape someone and smack them with 100 dmg (if you’re good with both legend and the gun 💀)
“Pros” play scared and overly passive until there are 15 squads in last ring… The only way they can make the game “exciting” is to have 40 seconds of chaos at the end… So that tells me either the game is bad, or the “pros” aren’t pros
Re 45 vs gold shotgun? I don’t know, I’ll go with the PK
PK and Mastiff hit sound is worth the risk, change my mind.
I’ve gotten to the point where I hate shotguns so much that I just use 2 smgs
thank you for the info
Uhh, this video i bs. I see Itztimmy use them all the time
Flatline+pk my main combo I can use the pk to peak and get a high amount of dmg
Flatline if a really good opiton to mid-long range if u controll recoil
Skill issue I’m afraid
I miss the part where that’s my problem Wattson
Use whatever you want
Only reason I don’t run shot guns is bc I consistently hit 9 but my enemies hit 99😂 ESPECIALLY the mastiff! I gotten ok with the PK. That mastiff fails me 99% of the time. ik get good! I do like the mozam tho, feel like it’s the most consistent shotty even without 🔨
Counterpoint: r301
Dude just get a flatline and a shot gun you will have all ranges fixed
Lol i only play to close the distance and clean house. Shotguns are superior if you have movement dont let this man lie to you.
flatline + pk
Hitting 9s on someone named Catboy is craZzZyyy
Season 4 peacekeeper-good old times
Volt + PK is a devastating combo. The volt recoil so ez that it can be used like an AR I some cases ngl
Counterpoint, use a skirmisher to close that distance like pathfinder, octane, revenant, ect
I used shotgun cuz its more fun
AHHHHHHH
My mains is pk and hemy 😢how could u so DSG going to win the ALGS
i would typically run smth like an ar-shotgun but the strafe speed is something i never even though of, crazy stuff that pros take into account
I see many streamers using Peacekeepers 🤨
Hemlock + volt best combo
so what you’re saying is that it’s not that shotguns are bad, it’s that smg’s are too good
Almost first
I use shotgun just for dg but respawn nerf the Bangalore so bye bye to shotgun
Huh