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Octane could be a b tier tbh he can get good angles from behind etc. and rotate his team
Is nobody gonna talk about octane?!?!
I disagree with the pathfinder hit box being big
Newcastle: always S tier, always the least picked legend
As soon as I saw Mirage in D tier I started to laugh
Bro idk how you play, but you’re trippin balls
Fuse becomes an entirely different legend when paired with a Horizon. Giving him the ability to take height off the horizon Q makes his tactical so much stronger. The wombo combo of horizon ult + fuse ult kills teams and his ability to hold a lot of nades just provides the chefs kiss. Solo fuse is a bit meh, but once you attach yourself to the hip of a good horizon he can reach God tier levels.
What if you disagree with 90% of what this dude says?
Lifeline needs a complete rework? Huh?
I would put lifeline at b at least she has saved me and my team so many times
if you good play gib bubble play Newcastle. he absolutely beast
As a mirage/Gibby main I approve this video. 👍🏾
mirage invisible revive is clutch.. I find him being very fun to play in pubs
Mans acting like he knows what he’s talking about
can’t wait for me not to be a unique newcastle main anymore 🙁
Been 1 tricking Vantage, i think shes the most underrated legend by far. The ping she gives is broken and her mobility is ridiculous. Shes a better Seer imo
U do know gibby is easily countered by seer now
I main seer and when I saw the explanation I realized why I was doing so much better after the changes
lifeline tier D come on, useful leged, what are u talkin about
next time i am buying newcastle
Seen Crypto placed anywhere from A tier to C tier. He’s very playstyle dependent.
Bloodhound is a “she” … smh
this was super helpful for choosing my next legend
Mirage doesn’t need a team lol instant sssssss tier
Rampart will always be top teir in my eyes 🤣
I haven’t comment on these type of videos in a few seasons. But I breakdown how good a legend is from start to finish and abilities in and out of buildings.
I’ll use my main Mirage because he’s misunderstood.
Nothing hinders Mirage abilities in or out of buildings. Take Pathfinder abilities. Yeah he’s great web slinging outside but in a building he’s not been handicap. The opposite with Caustic.
Another thing to think about is team interference. Crypto, Bangalore, Gibby ultimate came slow a teammate down. Bangalore and Caustic can block field of view.
Gibby dome can block your one shot.
There are a few factors that this video don’t talk about and over look.
Caustic in A tier has gotta be a joke💀
Bro, I agree with seer, everyone said this was a nerf or he was gonna be gutted by these changes, I saw 30% faster activation and a 10 second silences as changes to his tac and I knew that he was still going to be incredibly good, the ult is lightly nerfed his passive is neither better nor worse and his tac is just better imo
I really disagree with you about your valk opinion. The evac tower actually complements her ult because she can use her passive scan more now and her jet back is still the best passive in game her kit is definitely A tier
It’s wild cause I’ve been playing Newcastle quite a bit recently. I watched a ton of tutorials on him and worked on all the skills and he is a crazy legend when you play him well. The other night I went from Gold II to Platinum in 5 games all as Newcastle. The ability to drop cover, revive teammates in the open and just let the sniper fire hit my shield is wild.
Only thing I want is a way to turn off the lock-on his ultimate has. Jumping to teammates is usually the worst way to play him and it’s screwed up solid cover placement on a number of occasions.
BRO…your voice sounds so clear and smooth and clear and omg.. sorry. Just all god given talent…what recording sauce you got on them vocals?! love the videos man. all the best to you! ✌️❤️
Crypto should be S
As a loba main, I’ve had so much fun this season and it’s true, she has been highly effective this season
Wraith is not S tier 😂
Fuse is gold in platinum as his knuckle buster as well as maggies drill shreds baloons
Man’s decided to become Eminem real quick at the end there
Cryptos ult turns fights around, crypto ash is insane, emp then ash sword onto them
Wraith may be s tier, but the mindset of 90% of her players is to run away at the first sign of trouble. Seldom are the days i find a decent wraith that sticks around for a fight, or better yet uses her portal to support the team and not just dip only to get chased down via the very same portal. Just saying, if i get an octane or wraith on the team i assume disadvantage.
I’m a Maggie main and the fact u have horizon lower ur crazy her hit box when she jump strafe is broken I have never seen so many players with 4k 20bombs with less 1k kills then this character. If u disagree ur a horizon main
I really think Mirage needs to be higher he is very good imo
Crypto being higher than Lifeline is WILD. The lifeline disrespect goes crazy💀
Newcastle is not S tier. His revive is good, his tac is ok but it’s not big enough for cover and doesn’t really move fast enough for urgent moments and his ult is easily countered by grenades and his hit box is too big. He is either a or b. I’d rather have lifelines res shield to revive me rather than a Newcastle res me because it has infinite health and she can fight the enemies off. Also lifeline is soooo not D tier she is B. If she had the shield back, she’s a or maybe s tier. I might be hated for this but Lifeline>Newcastle😂
Why does your voice sound like its AI generated?
Not gonna lie, I miss the preface within the title that specifies whether the list is for solo queueing or team play. Great list, although I didn’t find out what kind of list this was until 13 minutes in a 14 minute video
I really want arenas back😢😢
I been maining loba since s6.. she was always low on these types of lists but now people see her usefulness.. i dont quite understand it cuz she aint really been touched in a while she literally the same person she always been
People dont wanna sit in the same spot in the campiest season yet where placement gets you the most points. Sir that statement doesnt make sense i beg to differ people are sitting more not pushing knocks like normal
literally the worst tier list i’ve ever seen.
Newcastle main on the way to solo queueing to Masters, and I have to say. Even in this new season, every time I see I’m on a team with Octane, Revenant, or Wraith, I know we’re probably going out in the bottom 10. I know folks think Ocatne has a “fun” kit but it does zero for helping the squad and his users are almost always selfish reckless players that compromise team success at every turn. Meanwhile Newcastle who is a better version of Gibby is probably still the least-picked legend lol smh
Lifeline on these tier videos is always the outlier, she’s either S or F depending on the content creator, never in between
Catalyst is 1000% better than Watson and caustic
That’s crazy. Anyways…
REV GANG ON TOP 😈😈😈😈
Mirage not in top tier 😛🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 id solo queue to master on 3 accts with mirage and pathfinder. Glad they’ve moved mirage to support role character
Disagree with lifeline being a d tier no legend gets a quicker heal than her and she fits into every team
I am a bronze player (when I played a lot I got to plat) and I got my PR with Newcastle with only 11 kills (been playing less than a year so it’s good for my skill level) I like him a lot. My main was Valk bu5 lately with my friends I pick him instead
Is this account owned by hiswattson or something? 😂
Hope Ash one day gets a buff to her ult, does feel a bit clunky to use and it would be nice to have an extra 20 meters added if not more, better yet let her port into the air and get shot out of it like a mini gravity canon
id really like crypto to be buffed and valkyrie to be able to do walljumps
I was gonna say seer I’d not as strong as he use to be and definitely not better but then you said fighting wise and I have to agree nobody is a better 1 v1 or 1v2 or just completely singling so body out
No way bro actually said “they” for bloodhound, everyone has a gender
Your wrong about lifeline…
Are you fucking serious lifeline is the best of the supports new castle should not be that high she’s atleast b tier just like new castle should be
To be honest, his is first Tier list in my life i can agree with.
i don’t understand why people say octane is a selfish legend?
i mean his jump pad can be literally used by everyone till the end of the game…it’s so versatile and helpful for all ur teammates especially when u have non movement legends…
it’s helped me so many times to escape with the whole team or to push someone. i am not saying he’s S tier just that he’s better than how he said said oct is selfish.
All the movement legends have one ability for personal use and other for the whole team..then it’s fair to say that path & wraith are selfish too
And he’s becomes a literal speed God if u learn all the movement mechanics….
Why does everyone say Wraith has a get out of jail free card like she will somehow teleport back to their teams
Lifeline is literally like b to a tier 😅 trip
Crypto extremely underrated
Clearly hasn’t seen high level bamboozlers
Funfact well Lifeline pickrate still bigger than newcastle, how ever lifeline care package still good for endzone in special case you doesn’t have wall for protect from get shot, not like newcastle walls, but yeah newcastle revive was crucial indeed, still the facts was newcastle win rate was really big compare to lifeline most support pick compared loba, gibby. but not many knows also.
Seer tactical is an arc star basically, the slow effect is super strong opponents cant even turn around
Lifeline doesn’t fit in any team comp.
Tell me about those clutch doubler rez vs the last team .
The only tierlist that we trust
Loba is me other main as she allows we gear up early game, and move around quickly
I like ballistic as he allows me to play Sniper, Flatline and a Gold SMG, but been having issues quick drawing to my main weapon when gold is done and going to sniper instead of flatline
Never realized he ripped off the whiteboy7thst intro. Cornball
U don’t even know how to play crypto
U are one of the ones who just sit in a building and fly drone
catalyst to low but other then that good list
As a rev main i disagree it jus how you use him forsure could be better but i dont think hes useless
I’m not Newcastle main, he’s the most annoying support character to encounter.
Crypto is low A teir
I usually try to play loba for versatility but for some reason I always do my highest games as wattson
Really sucks to see Valk fall this far. Evac tower really ruined her tbh
Main crypto i never understood how he always in such a low solo que rating
Personally idk why we haven’t seen revenant in the meta with the buff to wraiths portal. Honestly it gets you from point a to b real fast and gets you a long distance it’s basically a better revtain combo and if you want to make sure no one comes through that portal you can use a control legend like wattson or catalyst to trap and slow down t he enemies who are dumb enough to try and take the portal
I’ve been maining Lifeline since S5 and she’s been absolutely shitt since they took her res sheild cause people were crying about it.
The real reason Bang has grown in popularity is because of her smokes removing aim assist. Before people picked up on it she was mid to low tier, and nothing about her kit had changed really aside from a small buff to her Ult.
I main Ash and I understand why you put her at B. Imo, her passive is insane whether using it to 3rd party or stay away from teams or just general intel (and the data knife mark helps quickly knowing whether you’re safe to loot or not) and the snare stop bangs, paths and octanes from jumping away after losing a fight, I love the ult too, but I agree that placing it is very…. ‘strange’ sometimes XD
Life line is gas and has the best voice lines in the game. #islandgirlsdoitbetter
Is vantage hitbox actually big? I saw on the Internet that she’s just a medium hitbox, like 90% of the cast. Is that wrong?
Crypto is 1000% secretly broken🤣 idk how many times teams thought just deathballing my building would work and if i wasnt playing crypto i wouldve died. I agree with most of the list but not cryptos placement
I call him will smith but i dont play with any of the new legends like that because its too overwhelming, I have five heirlooms, 101 unopened apex packs…and i will probally purchase horizons heirloom tomorrow…but i play with wraith and valk and sometimes ill mess with another legend but mainly Renee or Kairi 🧚
All I’m saying is Loba better be S tier
Lifeline and Octane that low is a huge miss. I would put both in A, certainly above the control legends.
What about octanes jump pad for rotational purposes? or even to get you the advantage on a fight
Catalyst and horizon are both s
Valkyrie should definitely be A tier! The number of times I was able safely rotate my team over tall mountains is crazy
Oh great now there are gonna be more loba users to stop me from using her 😭😭
As a bang main I’m so happy to see her really making her way into the higher tier !
I think a Mirage should clone teammates and himself for ult. I have 10,000. My main before Maggie. Chaos
i use rev and i dominate by using mastiff and r-301
1:14 Another thing why are you mupps talking about Revenant Reborn when that’s more than likely a Halloween Skin/Mythic/Heirloom Microtransaction Event coming in late October? 😂
Valk, Path, Horizon, Newcastle, And Crypto can be considered S-Tier for this Split due to Broken Moon and Storm Point being on rotation. Prowler, Flatline, Nemesis, Bocek, and Kraber are S-Tier Weapons on this split too.
You can make any legend work, but this season’s SBMM is as bad as it’s ever been so I’d say any random on Solo Q who can display minimal efforts with teamwork will make ANY legend S-Tier.
Siv in that Bangalore clip was probably crying to teammates for help when his health was low🤣
This is the worst Teir list I’ve seen in a long time
This guy put BLOODHOUND in the same Tier as Catalyst and Horizon?
He put Wraith above Seer?
Octain above Lifeline?
I feel like we aren’t even playing the same game
I disagree with ur list. lifeline in the last tier.. bro what are you smoking? parsley?
Really good tierlist overall. As usual, great job dude. +1 for magie and newcastle, totally on the same page.
But (there is always a but) i would put lifleline above octane because who wants an octane on his team ? Who wants a lifeline ? Ez answer.
Seer is not “secretly” op, just op 😂, and wraith i dont understand why people still put her in s-tier when u litteraly have 10 people on earth who uses her decently, the rest is dogshit with this legend because her kit is (in my opinion of course) totally outdated and most of the time useless
Maggie is nuts
I can say I been maining some lifeline for good while (when I do play and if I don’t get shoved maggie instead) … she at least a C if you play her right because dam the amount of times I’m pulling off revives under some dumbasses nose after one my teammates send it a little too hard (after the mid season at least) is insane and I’ve definitely seen some bounce back moments.
Kit definitely do need some sweet sweet lovin given to it because yeah its dam hard running around every 5s trying pick people up and defending them I wish Newcastle didn’t basically steal her sheild. yes removed way before but the combat revive from Newcastle is basically the old old revive where she got the shield but it wasn’t from D.O.C revive you were still manually reviving but D.O.C provided a sheild
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Been main’ing Newcastle since S14. His explosive play potential is what makes him so fun. He just needs a couple more gas skins.
Also noticing more people picking him lately 👍
This was excellent. I never agree with every placement in these types of videos (I’d put lifeline a bit higher), but in this case, you nailed it.
Horizon still needs a nerf
Pretty decent tier list. 👍
Idc at this point Lifeline needs her fast item use back..🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
nnot trying to hate or sum but this tier list is rather bad than good
You shouldn’t be talking on behalf of console players as a pc guy 😂
Gibby In A tier is crazy. I think I see more revs than him now days 🤣🤣🤣
Is this soofar
Good to see people giving Maggie recognition. She’s like a more aggressive Bangalore. Don’t know why her playrate is so low.
tell me you dont know what you are talking about without telling me you dont know what you are talking about
Lifeline and crypto is underrated af
Newcastle is the best legend in the game, change my opinion
I just play wattson she is my s tier legend.
Finally someone puts Newcastle in a spot where he belongs
when did catalyst only get two door blocks???
Funny cause I never EVER see Newcastle in Apex maybe 🤔 he is good on pc but on console he is nonexistent
Seer feels more like an assault legend
Lifeline is easily B
Revenant tactical is so good
Mirage is the best legend when you 1vs1 almost all the time people will fall for decoys
Ill never understand certain legends being over and under rated…Bloodhound is awful now and Fuse is massively underrated
As a newcastle main, I approve
Pathfinder is my main in this season and thats for a reason. Never really played him much because he got overshadowed imo but after the buff last (?) Season, bro is amazing
NEWCASTLE THE GOAT!
Is the secretly broken tier an A+ tier or no
nar lifeline still so good to have on a team
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Love the content man